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Puddleglum, Hero or wet blanket?
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post Jan 30 2009, 09:07 AM
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In The Silver Chair we meet a Marsh-wiggle, by the name of Puddleglum. Marsh-wiggles are known for their generally pessimistic view on life, always expecting the worst to happen, and are fond of privacy, so their wigwam homes are a good distance from each other.

Puddleglum is described as having "...a long thin face with rather sunken cheeks, a tightly shut mouth, a sharp nose and no beard. He was wearing a high, pointed hat like a steeple, with an enormously wide flat brim. The hair, if it could be called hair, which hung over his large ears was greeny-grey, and each lock was flat rather than round, so that they were like tiny reeds. His expression was solemn, his complexion muddy, and you could see at once that he took a serious view of life."

A serious view of life is perhaps an understatement, yet he agrees to accompany Jill and Eustace on their quest to find Prince Rilian because the other Marsh-wiggles claim that he is too flighty, and needs to learn that there is more to life than "fricasseed frogs and eel pie."

Jill and Eustace's first impression of him is that he is "a wet blanket". He is always voicing the worst possible scenarios but tries to "put a bold face on it" and assumes that everyone else does the same.

For the most part of their adventure, the children take very little notice of Puddleglum's advice, pointing out that he is always expecting the worst, and is always wrong.

However, he is never unwavering with his courage and his loyalty to Aslan. It is he who reminds the children to trust Aslan's Signs, even when it appears they are wrong, he who tells the children that they must cut loose the raving Prince Rilian from the bonds that hold him to the Silver Chair, whatever the consequences.

And it was Puddleglum who was able to resist the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment to make them forget that Narnia existed, by stamping out her magical fire with his bare foot, thus breaking the enchantment.

"I'm on Aslan's side even if there isn't any Aslan to lead it. I'm going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn't any Narnia!"

Here are some questions for you to think about.

What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?

What about when the children kept ignoring Puddleglum's advice? Did you think they were right to do so, because he was always looking for the worst in everything, or did you believe that under the circumstances, Puddleglum was behaving reasonably?

What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?

Feel free to answer as many questions as you'd like, and you are more than welcome to add your own ideas and questions to the discussion, as we talk about this rather unconventional hero.


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post Feb 1 2009, 04:05 AM
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One word sums up Puddleglum: Respectowiggle.

What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?
Given that this is not the first book in the series that the reader has read, and this theme of Narnians no being quite on terms with Narnia, I found it very easy to see Puddleglum as a guy the kids needed to trust.

What about when the children kept ignoring Puddleglum's advice? Did you think they were right to do so, because he was always looking for the worst in everything, or did you believe that under the circumstances, Puddleglum was behaving reasonably?
They all do such a poor job of following what Aslan told them to do, that I find this to be well below the noise level of messing up.

What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?
What a guy! but I'm not sure I want to smell scorched marshwiggle.



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QUOTE(SnapesSister @ Jan 30 2009, 09:07 AM) *
What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?

Of course he's a wet blanket-he's a Marshwiggle! I wouldn't fault a Centaur for being proud or intelligent nor would I expect one to giggle-ever. After reading all CS Lewis' books, as nddulac said, I expect all the characters in Narnia and all the events to be more than what meets the eye. I was proud of him and pleasantly suprised when he showed such devotion to Narnia in the end.

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What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?

Well SOMEONE had to do SOMETHING!

Feel free to answer as many questions as you'd like, and you are more than welcome to add your own ideas and questions to the discussion, as we talk about this rather unconventional hero.




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Puddleglum reminds me of me: convinced that the darkest hour always comes just before the lights go out completely; that nothing is so bad that it cannot get worse (and probably will); and that, in general, life is one censor.gif thing after another, followed by death--and that may not be the end of your troubles.

Yet, in the long run, Aslan rules, and nothing happens by chance or circumstance, but all things work together for good. By the help of Aslan, and by that help alone, all shall be well.

Puddleglum is a Stoic.


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What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?
I was pussled by Puddleglum, when I first read about him. He was so different from other beings in Narnia, though he fits so perfecly into the style of C.S.Lewis. I had a lot of fun with Puddleglum, and I was amazed at how far he stretched from the norm of his kind. He became a hero in my eyes as soon as he left the marsh - he brakes a lot of bounderies this hero here!

What about when the children kept ignoring Puddleglum's advice? Did you think they were right to do so, because he was always looking for the worst in everything, or did you believe that under the circumstances, Puddleglum was behaving reasonably?
No. Generally I was shouting and screaming at Jill and Eustace for their complete lack of focus, and their continued ignorance of Puddleglums reality checks. Seriuously? Who got the mission from Alan...?

What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?
I though that was very much in a Marshwiggles nature. They are calm, collected, realistic/pessimistic creatures who don't get carried away, or enchanted by anything. Off course it was superbly courageous for Puddleglum to intervene, to take action. That is where he is set apart from most of his kind, and that is why I heart.gif Puddleglum. (Though he could do with a cheering charm on him...)


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What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?


The whole "down in the dumps" thing honestly kind of annoyed me at first, but he really grew on me once the three of them started out.

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What about when the children kept ignoring Puddleglum's advice? Did you think they were right to do so, because he was always looking for the worst in everything, or did you believe that under the circumstances, Puddleglum was behaving reasonably?


Drove me absolutely NUTS! He was the only one that showed any sense most of the time. Sure Eustace learned his lessons in Dawn Treader, but he still had his idiot moments. And don't get me started on Jill. I liked her towards the end, but oohhh she needed a good smack. It was their selfishness that got them into the problems and led them away from Aslan's signs. Puddleglum's skepticism would've gotten him straight to the end and done in about half the time. [ I know I'm exaggerating on that but nevermind tongue.gif ]

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What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?


I was carrying a flag for Puddleglum by this point, so no, didn't really surprise me. It did make me pretty happy though to see him stand up and take charge.

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post Feb 3 2009, 10:49 PM
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What was your first impression of Puddleglum? Did you agree with Jill and Eustace's opinion that he was a "wet blanket", or did you think there was more to him than first meets the eye?

Well, this wasn't my first Narnia fiction, since I read them in order, and I always felt that Lewis had a way of writing characters like Puddleglum to have more than meets the eye. As to my first impression... well Puddleglum's one of my favorite Narnia characters, so that should tell you something about my first impression biggrin.gif

What about when the children kept ignoring Puddleglum's advice? Did you think they were right to do so, because he was always looking for the worst in everything, or did you believe that under the circumstances, Puddleglum was behaving reasonably?

Teenagers, as the Harry Potter novels have proven are dumb and they don't want to have to listen to adults. Puddleglum is a pessimist, but with the level of danger in the land, it was still a reasonable behavior...

What was your reaction when Puddleglum resisted the Lady of the Green Kirtle's enchantment and stamped out her fire? Were you shocked that he was courageous enough to take such action or were you not surprised by his sudden acts of bravery by that point in the story?

Well first off, people can surprise you. I don't think anyone in the Longbottom family expected for Neville to end up acting the way he did (full-out challenging Death Eaters) in seventh year, in the same way Puddleglum had a side to him that nobody else saw. I was surprised by his bravery, but it was a good surprised, I felt proud of him for being brave.


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I believe that I read somewhere that Puddleglum was based on C.S. Lewis's gardener.

What I loved about Puddleglum (aside from his name, which was sooo appropriate biggrin.gif) was that he never pulled the 'I told you so' routine. He didn't waste his time blaming the children for not listening to him, he just made the best (or worst) out of whatever situation he was handed. I loved that he was the one who fought the witches spell, and his speech afterwards, about their make-believe land being better than anything she had in 'reality', had me cheering.
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magicofeden: Of course he's a wet blanket-he's a Marshwiggle!


I don't know how many times I've read The Silver Chair, and it never hit me until now that there is a joke involved in calling the Marshwiggle a wet blanket...! biggrin.gif

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nddulac: One word sums up Puddleglum: Respectowiggle.

I love this comment, too. (Puddleglum uses the word himself at Harfang.)

Puddleglum kind of grows on you, without really changing his character, and I think that is quite cleverly done by Lewis. Along with the children, we just get to know him better.


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