Reading Group Chat Transcript 12/23, Chapters 18-19 of GoF |
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[13:02] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [13:02] *** Topic is: Reading Group Chat: Goblet of Fire Chapters 18 and 19 [13:02] <SoonerGryffindor> hey adam, hey bemused [13:02] <bemused> me too, harryfreak! [13:02] <adamgryff> hi aislinn [13:02] <harryfreak359> H Aislinn [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> I've got most of mine done HF, just a few left [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> hi Aislinn [13:02] <harryfreak359> Hi* [13:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I just wrapped a bunch this morning [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> yay! [13:03] <SoonerGryffindor> and made a last-minute trrip to the store [13:03] <bemused> I've been baking all day [13:03] <harryfreak359> Well, I think I may still have to wrap some for my mom's bday [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> anyone want a cookie? biggrin [13:03] <harryfreak359> which happens to be today blushing [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> happy b-day to mommyHF [13:03] <adamgryff> if your talking to me debbie I already had lunch [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! [13:03] <harryfreak359> lol [13:03] <SoonerGryffindor> I am trying to eat lunch as I type [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> I was talking to everyone, but I'm thrilled you had lunch hug [13:04] <bemused> mind the keyboard, sooner [13:04] <harryfreak359> lol Sooner, eating while typing is always fun [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> I often end up doing that for the WWW chats [13:04] <SoonerGryffindor> I literally came running into the house and was trying to get everything ready less than 5 minutes before the chat [13:04] <bemused> Not if it's soup, harryfreak! [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! glad you made it [13:04] <SoonerGryffindor> its a sandwich [13:04] <SoonerGryffindor> so I can manage [13:04] <harryfreak359> lol that's even worse [13:05] <harryfreak359> At least for me [13:05] <DumbleDebbie> It snowed a little here last night but now it's just raining, blech [13:05] <harryfreak359> I am usuallly eating during the RG and P3 chats [13:05] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm sure that if I took apart my keyboard it would be scary [13:05] <harryfreak359> because they end up on lunch for me [13:05] <harryfreak359> lol mine would be too Sooner [13:05] <DumbleDebbie> LOL me too Sooner! the one at work I can see all kinds of crumbs in it [13:06] <adamgryff> I tend to do the same thing eat and watch you guys chat [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> are we good entertainment Adam? ;) [13:06] <bemused> My editor did that once, Sooner - there were little springs all over the desk! [13:06] <harryfreak359> lol [13:06] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> oopsy, did the keyboard ever work again? [13:06] <adamgryff> well I don't think as quickly as you guys do [13:06] <bemused> No - but we did warn him [13:06] <SoonerGryffindor> yes you do adam [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> you have good ideas Adam! [13:07] <SoonerGryffindor> mine has the easy pop-out buttons with no springs [13:07] <harryfreak359> Yes, Adam, you do, but sometimes it gets a bit over-whelming, I know [13:07] *** An_Eternal_Night has joined #lounge [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> hi AEN [13:07] <adamgryff> hi AEN [13:07] <harryfreak359> hi AEN [13:07] <An_Eternal_Night> hey everyone [13:07] <SoonerGryffindor> hey AEN [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> so who is going to be able to make the P3 chat tomorrow? [13:08] <harryfreak359> Me! [13:08] <bemused> I love the sentence 'An Eternal Night has joined ...' - sounds quite poetic [13:08] <adamgryff> hoping [13:08] <DumbleDebbie> I'm going to try my best to leave my friend's house in time to be home by 3 [13:08] <An_Eternal_Night> I might be able to make the last half, hopefully! [13:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [13:09] <harryfreak359> I don't have anything planned...my grandmother's birthday is tomorrow, so I may have to give her a call, but other than that, I should be here. [13:09] *** Whisperwing has joined #lounge [13:09] <adamgryff> hi whisperwing [13:09] <harryfreak359> hi Whisperwing [13:09] <An_Eternal_Night> it's my uncle's birthday tomorrow as well [13:09] <Whisperwing> SO since the official chat starts in six minutes.. when will the filks be released, do you think? [13:09] <An_Eternal_Night> hi whisperwing [13:09] <Whisperwing> Hi gang [13:09] <DumbleDebbie> hi whisper [13:10] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea ww [13:10] <Whisperwing> Anyone mind me claiming this color? [13:10] <DumbleDebbie> looks good on you smile [13:10] <An_Eternal_Night> it's yours! [13:10] <harryfreak359> nope, looks great on you biggrin [13:10] <Whisperwing> I'm actually wearing a cardigan this exact color right now [13:10] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! [13:11] <harryfreak359> lol [13:11] <SoonerGryffindor> why do you think I always use red? laugh [13:11] <DumbleDebbie> brb, cookies [13:11] <harryfreak359> Well, I'm wearing green [13:11] <Whisperwing> Because you're Santa's Lil Helper? [13:11] <adamgryff> so are we color cordinating what we wear now, I had better go red then. I won't Sooner [13:11] <harryfreak359> lol [13:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> some sort of silly football something or other wink [13:12] <Aislinn> how is everyone today? [13:12] *** BlixDude has joined #lounge [13:12] <Whisperwing> Well really I'd need mine to be both teal and pinkie purple, since I've got a lavender and rose skirt and a burgundy blouse on as well [13:12] <harryfreak359> good, you, Aislinn? [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> good! how are you? [13:12] <adamgryff> hi blix [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> hi blix [13:12] <BlixDude> hello [13:12] <Aislinn> I'm good smile [13:12] <adamgryff> I'm good aislinn [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> awesome [13:12] <An_Eternal_Night> very good, still very excited about the title [13:12] <Whisperwing> A little tired, some last minute shopping for about three hours this morning [13:13] <harryfreak359> Me too AEN [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> I'm past excited and have been sad about the title [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> it's the beginning of the end happy_crying [13:13] <harryfreak359> Yes, Debbie, I feel the same [13:13] *** dumbleydore18 has joined #lounge [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> hi dumbley [13:13] <Whisperwing> I've been both of those, I think I've moved through those, and skipped anger and bargaining, going straight to acceptance [13:13] <harryfreak359> Hi Dumbleydore [13:13] <adamgryff> hi dumbleydore [13:13] <An_Eternal_Night> hi dumbleydore [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> I was in Borders yesterday and got a sad feeling thinking the last book will be there soon [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> too soon [13:14] <DumbleDebbie> lolWW [13:14] <BlixDude> Im glad [13:14] <Whisperwing> Ooh, oh, I wonder if the Broadway filk casts are still in the player menu? [13:14] <bemused> We may still have another year of guessing - I hope [13:14] <BlixDude> I need them to put the book into an IV Drip for me and just stick it into my arm [13:14] <DumbleDebbie> you can probably get them from the web site WW [13:14] <Whisperwing> Yup, there they are! [13:14] <dumbleydore18> hi guys I just woke up so bear with me! [13:14] <DumbleDebbie> good morning dumbley smile [13:14] <dumbleydore18> how is everyone? [13:14] <harryfreak359> Morning then! [13:15] <Whisperwing> Oh no, I have them in my iTunes, I just don't feel like reloading them into the directory since the stupid thing has once again forgotten my library is there. [13:15] <Whisperwing> Bare with you? Shall we play strip trivia or something? [13:15] <Whisperwing> Sorry, that was just wrong [13:15] <dumbleydore18> lol [13:15] <DumbleDebbie> LOL WW, the children! [13:15] <DumbleDebbie> keep it G-rated wink [13:16] <dumbleydore18> nothin their eyes cant handle! [13:16] <Whisperwing> I have already abjectly apologized [13:16] <DumbleDebbie> I'm just kiddin' you smile [13:16] <dumbleydore18> haha [13:16] <Aislinn> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [13:16] <Whisperwing> I just can't resist puns! It's a fatal flaw in my character! [13:16] <Aislinn> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [13:16] <Aislinn> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [13:16] <Aislinn> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [13:17] <Aislinn> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry wants to talk to Ron, but Ron’s run off to breakfast. He and Hermione go for a walk–she believes Harry didn’t put his name in the Goblet, the shock on his face last night said enough for her. Hermione thinks Ron is jealous. She refuses to play intermediary. She wants Harry to write to Sirius, which Harry reluctantly does. All but the Gryffindors are angry at Harry. [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> The Hufflepuffs turn cold toward the Gryffindors–they think Harry’s stolen Cedric’s (and theirs) glory. Ron’s not talking to Harry. Malfoy taunts Harry about being a champion. Hagrid believes Harry didn’t put his name into the Goblet, as does Dumbledore. Still, without Ron’s support, Harry feels very isolated. Malfoy tops himself by coming up with Support Cedric Diggory/Potter Stinks badges [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Malfoy insults Hermione. He and Harry fire jinxes at each other and miss. Hermione’s teeth become fangs. Goyle gets nailed, but then so what? Ron and Harry scream at Snape and get detentions. At the weighing of the wands, Rita corners Harry in a broom closet and wrangles an “interview” out of him. Ollivander examines the wands. Sirius arranges a meeting with Harry. [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry faces the unknown First Task with mounting terror. Thinking about chatting with Sirius calms him a bit. Life in the castle is a misery for Harry–especially after Rita publishes her article on Harry, erm, the Tournament. Rita’s article presents Harry as a weepy, sappy, tragic little hero whose girlfriend is ... Hermione. [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> At Hogsmeade, Harry hides under his Cloak and avoid all other students. Hagrid asks to meet him later that night. It seems Moody can see through the Cloak. Harry meets Hagrid and they set off to ... the Beauxbatons’ carriage where Hagrid picks up Maxime. Maxime flirts with Hagrid and promises not to say anything about what she’s about to see (sure, she won’t). Harry sees four dragons. [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> In the Common Room, Harry and Sirius have a chat. Harry tells Sirius about everything–the shock of finding himself a champion, Ron’s reaction, Rita’s article, the dragons. Sirius looks years younger. Sirius warns Harry about Karkaroff–a former Death Eater. Sirius tied Bertha Jorkins’ disappearance in Albania with Voldemort. Ron interrupts the chat and he and Harry have words. [13:18] <SoonerGryffindor> Ready? Good! Let’s talk about Chapters 18-19 of GoF. [13:18] <SoonerGryffindor> Why were the Gryffindors so willing to overlook Harry putting his name into the Goblet? Why were they so supportive? [13:18] <BlixDude> Because he's their champion [13:18] <Whisperwing> I wouldn't call them fangs, more like tusks. Wow do I need some lip balm now. [13:18] <Whisperwing> Wait, 18 and 19? [13:18] <BlixDude> They were genuinly happy that a Gryffindor got in [13:18] <bemused> Because it meant that one of theirs was a champion [13:18] <DumbleDebbie> they like to win [13:18] <adamgryff> because they had a champion [13:18] <Whisperwing> Littl ebehind the groups then [13:19] <Aislinn> They wanted to have a member of their House compete [13:19] <SoonerGryffindor> we took a break last week for the Yule Ball [13:19] <Whisperwing> Right [13:19] <Aislinn> and the Groups are taking a break over the next couple of weeks, so it will synch up again [13:19] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [13:19] <Whisperwing> They were still stinging from the defeat last year at Cedric Diggory's hands and wanted to get some of their own back on him through Harry. [13:20] <harryfreak359> They were glad to have a gryffindor competing [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> that may be WW [13:20] <SoonerGryffindor> its favoritism. We are all able to overlook things that those we like do [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> very true Sooner [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> the Gryffindors thinkgin 'what's a little cheating between friends'? [13:20] <Aislinn> but really, what else should they have done? [13:20] <Whisperwing> If it hadn't been Cedric I imagine they'd have been nearly as suspicious as everyone else, wanting to know how he'd gotten away with it when everyone else who tried to get around the age line got bearded. [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> as long as we win [13:20] <Aislinn> Been mad at him? [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> LOL true Aislinn [13:21] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly Aislinn, what other reation should they have had? [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> I supposed they could've all been miffed like Ron [13:21] <adamgryff> its just like being in high school each class wanted their particular representive to be involved in what was happening [13:22] <dumbleydore18> well they knew that the TWT involved death and they were probably like Hermione and knew that Harry just would not throw himself out there if there was something this dangerous. Or they were fully behind him because they knw that he could defeat voldemort 3 or 4 times prier that harry could do anything. [13:22] <Whisperwing> They'd probably have been somewhat less forgiving if the original champion had been someone other than Cedric [13:22] <Aislinn> it annoys me that none of them would listen or believe Harry when he said he didn't put his name in [13:22] <bemused> Some of them had tried to cross the age line and failed - they seemed proud that he'd made it [13:22] <Whisperwing> Except Ron of course [13:22] <BlixDude> Well honestly could you upright and believe him? [13:22] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, good thing for Hermione eh? [13:22] <Whisperwing> Ans Seamus was a bit peeved as well [13:22] <adamgryff> yes it annoy's me too aislinn [13:22] <harryfreak359> It annoyed me too, Aislinn, they were just too happy that he found a way in [13:22] <An_Eternal_Night> right Aslinn, they are being supportive but for all the wrong reasons [13:22] <BlixDude> It is an extremely powerful and magical object [13:22] <BlixDude> And who else would put it in for him [13:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Why was Harry so keen on avoiding the Gryffindors? [13:23] <bemused> Because he didn't want to celebrate [13:23] <BlixDude> He didn't like all the gratification for stuff he didn't do [13:23] <Whisperwing> This would mean they believed Harry to be an extremely powerful wizard despite his youth then. [13:23] <adamgryff> because he didn't feel like celebrating [13:23] <Aislinn> I think that he was shocked by the fact that his name got in, and impatient with them that they didn't believe him [13:23] <BlixDude> Stuff he didn't want either [13:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it is becaues he didnt want to celebrate something that was disturbing to him [13:23] <DumbleDebbie> 1) they didn't believe him 2) their praise will only make the other houses more angry [13:23] <harryfreak359> Well, Harry has never really seemed to like to be in the spotlight. And because Ron didn't believe him and it just made all of that worse [13:23] <BlixDude> Plus he was still in shock from his name being put into a contest that's likelu going to kill him [13:23] <An_Eternal_Night> exactly Debbie [13:23] <Aislinn> They should have known better, as they have known Harry for year at this point [13:24] <SoonerGryffindor> and book Harry is different from movie Harry in this instance laugh [13:24] <DumbleDebbie> plus, it it disturbing. he was in *way* over his head and he knew it [13:24] <adamgryff> lol, yes Harry is sooner [13:24] <Aislinn> right Debbie [13:24] <DumbleDebbie> I loved how Jo wrote that he tripped over his robes walking to the front of the GH. so vulnerable and small [13:24] <dumbleydore18> Harry didn't want to feel over whelmed by all the hullaballoo and probably didn't want to make Ron feel any worse. Some super stars avoid the spotlight to get away from it all, [13:24] <SoonerGryffindor> plus Harry never wants to be the center of attention [13:24] <Whisperwing> Also, I'd say, because of all the attention he'd already gotten for being The Boy Who Lived, which he also feels is undeserved, this was even more guilt-building, because this was something else he was getting glorified for when he'd done nothing to make it happen. [13:25] <SoonerGryffindor> that was a good line Debbie [13:25] <SoonerGryffindor> very true ww [13:25] <harryfreak359> Yes, Debbie' [13:25] <dumbleydore18> I am not saying that Harry feels like a Super Star either...just a comparison. [13:25] <SoonerGryffindor> he jsut wants to be a normal boy [13:25] <harryfreak359> Agreed Sooner [13:25] <SoonerGryffindor> but that's not happening so far [13:25] <DumbleDebbie> and that's the one thing he's never had [13:26] <SoonerGryffindor> Why did Hermione believe Harry hadn’t put his name in the Goblet? [13:26] <harryfreak359> This part of the book makes me feel so sorry for him [13:26] <DumbleDebbie> she's very empathetic and she knows him well [13:26] <bemused> She very perceptive - she said it was the look on his face [13:26] <SoonerGryffindor> She wasnt caught up in the whole competition thing either [13:26] <adamgryff> because Hermione is a sensible person and figured out there was no way Harry could have done it [13:26] <Whisperwing> Because she's sensitive to feelings and she can clearly see how shell shocked Harry is over this. [13:26] <harryfreak359> Hermione is a sensible girl, and she knows harry well, because she can pick up on things like that [13:26] <DumbleDebbie> close friends can tell a lot about each other from a look or the sound of their voice [13:27] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [13:27] <Whisperwing> He wouldn't have been as floored if he'd known his name was even in the Goblet. [13:27] <DumbleDebbie> hey cloudpic! [13:27] <An_Eternal_Night> Hermione knew that Harry wouldn't do a thing like that [13:27] <dumbleydore18> I agree with all of you [13:27] <adamgryff> hi cloudpic [13:27] <cloudpic> Hi, folks [13:27] <An_Eternal_Night> hi cloudpic [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Hermione comes from a family where she is the only child. I have a feeling that if Harry was a girl, it might have been different [13:27] <harryfreak359> Hi Cloudpic [13:27] <DumbleDebbie> that she'd have been jealous Sooner? [13:27] <Aislinn> Hermione knows Harry and trusts him, and was able to read his body language [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> !halfop cloudpic [13:27] *** mode/#lounge [+h cloudpic] by Snuffles [13:27] <Whisperwing> So would the whole series have been different, number one, Cedric would have been 'her' crush instead of Cho [13:27] <Aislinn> what do you mean, sooner? [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie [13:27] <harryfreak359> Yes, Aislinn, agreed [13:27] <bemused> Why, Sooner? [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> jsut that I think part of the issues between Ron and Harry is that they are the same sex [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> people in general seem to compete with others of our gender [13:28] <Whisperwing> And Ron's so poor and Harry's so not. [13:28] <DumbleDebbie> the competitive nature between the 2 of them [13:28] <Aislinn> oh, I think it has more to do with ron's inferiority complex [13:28] <harryfreak359> Yes Sooner, I'd agree with that [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> there is also their natures, but I think that boys compete with boys and girls with girls as well [13:28] <Whisperwing> Even before he had access to his parents' money, Harry grew up in a more affluent household than the Burrow. [13:28] <DumbleDebbie> so if Harry had been a girl, Sooner sees a catfight brewing [13:29] <BlixDude> No [13:29] <Aislinn> I don't think that Hermione would react the same as Ron. As you say, she is an only child, and doesn't have to compete against all those brothers like Ron [13:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think there are a lot of issues, but I think that was a contributing factor in why Hermione maybe didnt react as strongly [13:29] <BlixDude> Herione still would have believed Harrieta [13:29] <BlixDude> Hermione* [13:29] <cloudpic> Hermione is competitive too.. but I think I agree with you too Sooner... same sex rivalry.... it's almost sibling rivalry between Harry and Ron aand Rothis point [13:29] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [13:29] <Whisperwing> Why not Harlene? [13:29] <BlixDude> Hermione just understands people better [13:29] <DumbleDebbie> she competes in a different way than the boys [13:29] <Aislinn> I don't think it has much to do with gender [13:29] <DumbleDebbie> intellecutally rather than in sports [13:29] <BlixDude> Jo called Harry Harrieta when asked that gender question lol [13:29] <Aislinn> I think it has everything to do with self esteem [13:30] *** TweakOddmentBlubblerNitwit has joined #lounge [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> hi tweak [13:30] <Aislinn> hi tweak [13:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Hermione being a girl also just makes her more mature [13:30] *** NBlovegood9294 has joined #lounge [13:30] <cloudpic> Ron is the last in a long line of successful brothers [13:30] <Whisperwing> Right and even if Harry was Harlene, she'd still be sporty, just like Angeline and Katie Bell [13:30] <An_Eternal_Night> hi tweak [13:30] <SoonerGryffindor> no offense to any boys in here laugh [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> hi NBlove [13:30] <cloudpic> Hi, Tweek [13:30] <bemused> Yes, Sooner, I think that's true [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner, esp. at that age [13:30] <NBlovegood9294> helllo [13:30] <BlixDude> I don't see the differences being gender [13:30] <harryfreak359> I think it does have something to do with that as well, Aislinn, I think that it was a little bit of a few issues [13:30] <TweakOddmentBlubblerNitwit> hello [13:30] <Whisperwing> Right because Lavender and Parvati are sooo mature [13:30] <harryfreak359> Agreed Sooner biggrin [13:30] <NBlovegood9294> sooooo... [13:30] <SoonerGryffindor> lol ww [13:30] <Aislinn> I agree that Hermione is more mature [13:30] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think of Ron’s jealousy? Was he justified? [13:30] <harryfreak359> Boys mature later then girls [13:30] <An_Eternal_Night> none taken; it is very true [13:31] * adamgryff is not saying a word to Sooners post [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> it must be tough for Ron [13:31] <TweakOddmentBlubblerNitwit> ron's jealousy over krum? [13:31] <Whisperwing> From his point of view I'm sure it felt justified [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> lol Adam [13:31] <harryfreak359> Well, it was understandable why, but still, Harry was his friend. [13:31] <BlixDude> Not really but I can see why he reacted that way [13:31] <An_Eternal_Night> I thought it was extremely realistic [13:31] <Aislinn> I think that Ron has the right to get frustrated with the endless attention that Harry gets - Hermione explains it so well to Harry [13:31] <Whisperwing> No, over Harry being the fourth Champion [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> Honestly, I have to admit I was mad at Ron for the whole deal [13:31] <bemused> No, he wasn't - but I think he knew that really, as well [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> but it dragged on *way* too long [13:31] <BlixDude> It wasn't a total out of no where kind of thing [13:31] <Aislinn> But he should believe his best friend [13:31] <cloudpic> T hat's the whole thing.... Whisper... this was about feelings, not "thinking it through." [13:31] <Aislinn> He knows Harry way too well to think that Harry would lie to him about something like this [13:32] <DumbleDebbie> just when Harry really needed suport the most his best friend bailed on him for petty reasons [13:32] <adamgryff> I think that Ron had the right to be upset at first but once he found out he should have believed Harry and went on. There should not have been a fight [13:32] <An_Eternal_Night> right Aislinn [13:32] <NBlovegood9294> yeah [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> He has known Harry for 3 years, he knows who he is as a person and I think it was a slap in the face to Harry to be called a liar and to be ostracized [13:32] <cloudpic> I got tired of it too, Ddebbie... but my experience with teen anger... it usually does (realistic) [13:32] <BlixDude> I think Ron didn't want to forgive him so readily [13:32] <Whisperwing> Feelings are what they are and what you feel is what you feel, no matter what the should and shouldn't are. [13:32] <bemused> Yes, Aislinn, he should have, but I think he just got locked into that position - I can be hard to admit that you're wrong [13:32] <BlixDude> It wasn't just the goblet thing [13:32] <Aislinn> yes, sooner - especially when Harry needed him so much during that difficult time [13:32] <bemused> *it, not I [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> right [13:32] <cloudpic> Agreed, Whisper [13:32] <BlixDude> It was also the fact that Harry always gets things [13:32] <NBlovegood9294> right [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> he bailed when Harry needed him most [13:32] <Aislinn> true whisper, feelings are what they are, but how you act on those feelings is under your control [13:33] <cloudpic> No... not when Harry needed him most [13:33] <Aislinn> Ron did not act well in this instance [13:33] <NBlovegood9294> kinda [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> not at all [13:33] <bemused> When he saw how much danger Harry was in he came back pretty quick [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> he could be upset with harry but still support him [13:33] <Aislinn> exactly debbie [13:33] <NBlovegood9294> yeah [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> rght Debbie [13:33] <harryfreak359> I agree completely Debbie [13:33] <Whisperwing> And fourteen year old boys are really skilled at separating their actions from their feelings [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> just put it aside with Harry's life on the line [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> nope [13:33] <cloudpic> Neither did Harry... he wouldn't go to Ron when he could have [13:33] <NBlovegood9294> yup [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> hence my maturity statement earlier laugh [13:33] <adamgryff> no he didn't Ron was actly like a spoiled rotten kid who didn't get things his way [13:33] <NBlovegood9294> :P [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> lol WW [13:33] <harryfreak359> lol [13:33] <Whisperwing> Spoiled rotten? He's imitating Draco? [13:34] <NBlovegood9294> ha [13:34] <cloudpic> Both boys were too stubborn to listen to one another [13:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron acted like a brat during that time. I kept hoping that Harry really would hit him and knock some sense into him. The fight would have ended sooner [13:34] <harryfreak359> Well, not spoiled rotten, but just a jealous teenager, I don't think it has antyhing to do with being spoiled [13:34] <cloudpic> hence Hermione's exasperation with them [13:34] <DumbleDebbie> hopefully they learned a good lesson from it [13:34] <NBlovegood9294> boys will be boys [13:34] <harryfreak359> Yes, I was too Sooner [13:34] <Whisperwing> Ron's just about never gotten things his way. And he's just gotten sick and tired of life and good luck dumping on him. [13:34] <bemused> I agree, cloudpic [13:34] <Aislinn> yes cloudpic - Harry was being stubborn too, and they could have gotten over it sooner, if he had made Ron talk to him [13:35] <cloudpic> An important lesson, you're right DDebbie [13:35] <An_Eternal_Night> Harry did throw a Potter Stinks pin at Ron, but that didn't do much good [13:35] <SoonerGryffindor> however, it was a phase they had to go through and I do believe that it made their friendship stronger in the end [13:35] *** TweakOddmentBlubblerNitwit has quit [Bye] [13:35] <adamgryff> yes, I believe it has sooner [13:35] <harryfreak359> yes, their friendship was stronger for it [13:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Should Harry have seen Ron’s jealousy coming? [13:35] <DumbleDebbie> right sooner [13:35] <Aislinn> I agree sooner [13:35] <Whisperwing> Well Harry's never been very good at noticing other people's feelings [13:35] <DumbleDebbie> at that age, I wouldn't expect it [13:36] <SoonerGryffindor> In retrospect, I think so [13:36] <adamgryff> I think perhaps in retrospect yes he should have seen it, but I don't think Harry did [13:36] <bemused> Harry was wrapped up in his own feelings - understandably [13:36] <cloudpic> There's that word "should" again.... in an ideal world "should" yes, of course... but I don't think he could understand it as he was already jealous of Ron's family, his home and his lack of "fame" [13:36] <harryfreak359> Yeah, well, sort of, and sort of not. [13:36] <Whisperwing> He had griped about everything he owns being rubbish back at the Burrow when they were packing up for school. [13:36] <Aislinn> I think that where Ron is in his life is so very different from Harry's experience, that it would be hard for him to anticipate the reaction [13:36] <SoonerGryffindor> on the flip side of that, I wonder if Ron realized how jealous Harry is of him [13:36] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think Ron has any idea [13:37] <Whisperwing> That should have been a red flag, but all Harry actually thought about it was how he'd gladly halve his fortune with the Weasleys but was sure they'd never accept the money. [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> they each have things that the other desires. Kinda like how real life works [13:37] <DumbleDebbie> he's got SO much, but he doesn't know it [13:37] <Aislinn> Harry doesn't have a family to compete against, and doesn't have any idea what it is like to be ignored, as he never is [13:37] <bemused> I think it's one of the strengths of the way their friendship is described, that they grow and change, and sometimes fall out [13:37] <An_Eternal_Night> I agree Debbie [13:37] <adamgryff> I don't think Ron know that Harry wishes all he had was Rons life [13:37] <cloudpic> He wouldn't grasp it even if told flatly that Harry'd like to trade places... [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> Harrry definitely knows what it is like to be ignored Aislinn [13:37] <cloudpic> Harry is ignored in his only "family home" [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> by family [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> so I think he would be able to understand that one [13:38] <harryfreak359> Yes, sooner [13:38] <Aislinn> but not since entering the wizarding world, and it was such a different type of issue in the Dursleys [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Adam, I dont think that Ron really knows that [13:38] <cloudpic> He understands that kind of being ignored... what he doesn't understand is being one of many and feeling lost amidst the "crowd" [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, but he had 10 years worth of being pushed aside [13:38] <Aislinn> It was being suppressed out of fear, not ignored out of being overlooked [13:38] <Whisperwing> Well not really, he was ignored plenty at the Dursleys [13:38] <bemused> In a different way though - Dudley had all the positive attention, he had all the negative [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> that is an excellent comparison cloudpic [13:38] <Aislinn> i don't think he was exactly ignored - he was given negative attention [13:38] <Aislinn> yes bemused [13:38] <An_Eternal_Night> that is true bemused [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, I see your point [13:38] <harryfreak359> Yeah, Cloudpic [13:38] <adamgryff> even being ignored at the weasleys is better than being ignored at the durleys [13:39] <cloudpic> Good point... you're right about the negative attention... when they actually ignored him he was releaved... [13:39] <Aislinn> it is, adam, but it carries a different consequence for the way one thinks about one's self [13:39] <SoonerGryffindor> and really the weasleys pay as much attention to Harry as they do Ron [13:39] <SoonerGryffindor> that has to stink for Ron. Not only does he have 5 brothers to get "lost" in, there is also Harry [13:40] <NBlovegood9294> yeah [13:40] <DumbleDebbie> he does get a bit lost in the crowd [13:40] <Aislinn> exactly sooner [13:40] <SoonerGryffindor> still, I dont think Harry was surprised at Ron's feelings, but not being trusted or believed is what shocked him the most [13:40] <bemused> And Molly always seems to be extra nice to Harry, to compensate for his home [13:40] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [13:40] <Aislinn> yes, I really think he felt betrayed [13:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I would have too [13:40] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner and Aislinn [13:41] <NBlovegood9294> and molly says Harry is like her 2nd son [13:41] <cloudpic> hmmmm... Harry is a little ambivalent about the "fame" thing... he doesn't mind attention given for honest effort... that's what Ron does [13:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Why was Harry so reluctant to write to Sirius about his name coming up as a champion? [13:41] <DumbleDebbie> that would be awful to think there's 1 person you could on more than anyone in the world and they turn their back on you [13:41] <cloudpic> not always get... he's always in Harry's shadow when he's done "great things" [13:41] <cloudpic> Fear Sirius would put himself in jeopardy? [13:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I think because he didnt want to be the reason Siirus got captured [13:41] <bemused> Worried aboutt he consequesnces for Sirius? [13:41] <DumbleDebbie> he doesn't want to be responsible for Sirius being caught [13:41] <Aislinn> that's possible, cloudpic [13:41] <adamgryff> because he doesn't want Sirius to do anything stupid [13:42] <DumbleDebbie> brb [13:42] <NBlovegood9294> or regretful... [13:42] <An_Eternal_Night> writing things down sometimes makes you relive the whole experience, and that might have been part of the reason [13:42] <harryfreak359> yes, I agree, Harry didn't want Sirius to do something rash and stupid [13:42] <bemused> Good point, AEN [13:42] <Whisperwing> Because he knows if Sirius were in trouble he'd run right out to try to save him, and is sure Sirius is the exact same way [13:42] <cloudpic> I like that... you're right Eternal Night [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a good point AEN [13:42] <harryfreak359> good point AEN [13:42] <NBlovegood9294> yeah, good point [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> and Harry is just the type to ignore stuff also [13:42] <cloudpic> They are alike in that way. Hermione's "saving people thing" [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> he totally aggravates me with that [13:43] <cloudpic> It's human nature though.... not just a Harry thing... we all do that [13:43] <harryfreak359> Yes, me too Sooner [13:43] <SoonerGryffindor> true. Like downplay something bad because we dont want to inconvenience people? [13:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I do that [13:43] <cloudpic> You have this odd pain: doctor? noooo...not yet Don't understand in class? Ask a question,... nah, not now. [13:44] <adamgryff> yes, or you don't want to have to deal with it just yet [13:44] <cloudpic> Exactly, Adam [13:44] <SoonerGryffindor> Why did the Ravenclaws find it so hard to support Harry? [13:44] <SoonerGryffindor> whoops [13:44] <An_Eternal_Night> yeah, we don't like to do things that make us feel unpleasant, even if it needs to be done [13:44] <SoonerGryffindor> Why did the Ravenclaws find it so hard to support Harry? [13:44] <cloudpic> If you stall a bit.... maybe the problem will go away or resolve itself [13:44] <cloudpic> He had apparently not played fair. [13:44] <NBlovegood9294> well, the Ravenclaws are... [13:44] <harryfreak359> Well, they thought that he cheated [13:44] <adamgryff> because they saw harry as a cheat [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> The Hufflepuffs are easy [13:45] <bemused> Don't know - the Ravenclaws are a bit of a mystery to me - perhaps they're jealous of the attention he gets [13:45] <NBlovegood9294> they belived he cheated, yeah [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> but why were the Ravenclaw's mad? [13:45] <cloudpic> It wasn't because they were Ravenclaws... it was just because it seemed he was in the wrong. [13:45] <Whisperwing> Because perhaps they fel a proprietary air towards Cedric, I'm sure plenty Ravenclaws think he should have been in their house. [13:45] <harryfreak359> Cedric was the "real" champion to them [13:45] <DumbleDebbie> exactly cp [13:45] <cloudpic> Everyone reacts negatively to a "cheat" [13:45] <bemused> Maybe they had a candidate and were miffed he/she didn't get in [13:45] <DumbleDebbie> about the ignoring stuff [13:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I just cant see how every single one of them were mad though [13:46] <SoonerGryffindor> that just seems a little extreme [13:46] <cloudpic> I'd have been. [13:46] <An_Eternal_Night> maybe Ravenclaws feel like their partner house is Hufflepuff; neither of them get as much attention as Gryffindor or Slytherin [13:46] <NBlovegood9294> the Ravenclaws are a mystery... [13:46] <cloudpic> If I think someone has cheated. [13:46] <harryfreak359> Well, maybe not all of them were, just a majority of them. Cho didn't seem mad. [13:46] <SoonerGryffindor> surely, ONE of them was not angry, right? Cho [13:46] <DumbleDebbie> they were already probably bummed that no one from their house was chosen and then this [13:46] <cloudpic> They are, NBlovegood [13:46] <NBlovegood9294> yup [13:46] <DumbleDebbie> yes, I liked Cho then wink [13:47] <harryfreak359> yes me too [13:47] <cloudpic> She had a "crush"? [13:47] <BlixDude> The Ravenclaws weren't Biased towards Harry so [13:47] <harryfreak359> Shame we didn't know Luna at this time [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> Ravenclaw typically supports Gryffindor, it is just strange to me that all of them would come down on the Hufflepuff side of it [13:47] <cloudpic> Or was she seeing more clearly than others?? [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh hf. I wonder what was going on with Luna [13:47] <DumbleDebbie> it is Sooner [13:47] <dumbleydore18> I gotto go! [13:47] *** dumbleydore18 left #lounge [] [13:47] <An_Eternal_Night> yes, that is strange [13:47] <DumbleDebbie> bye dumbley [13:47] <harryfreak359> Yes, I do as well, Sooner [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> bye dd18 [13:47] <cloudpic> They weren't coming down on Hufflepuff side... just going against the one who seemed to cheat. [13:47] <An_Eternal_Night> I wish we had known Luna from the beginning... [13:47] <Whisperwing> Well this was before Ginny started spending so much time with the trio herself, bringing Luna in to the circle in the process [13:47] <cloudpic> By dd18 [13:48] <SoonerGryffindor> do you think it was because Cedric was the good-looking boy? [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> that's good reasoning cp [13:48] <NBlovegood9294> lol [13:48] <cloudpic> I must go tooo... sooo sorry! [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> esp for Ravenclaws [13:48] <SoonerGryffindor> bye cloudpic [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> bye cp! [13:48] <harryfreak359> Possibly part of it, Sooner [13:48] <bemused> Only for the girls, Sooner [13:48] <harryfreak359> bye cloudpic [13:48] <adamgryff> bye cloudpic [13:48] <Whisperwing> bye cloudpic [13:48] <NBlovegood9294> gotta go, see ya! [13:48] <An_Eternal_Night> bye cloudpic [13:48] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [13:48] <Whisperwing> bye NB [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> I would hope *all* the Ravenclaws weren't that shallow [13:48] <An_Eternal_Night> bye NB [13:48] *** NBlovegood9294 left #lounge [] [13:48] <SoonerGryffindor> but that is sub-concious human behavior [13:49] <harryfreak359> Maybe the ravenclaw's were a little jealous of the Gryffs too, because the gryffindors always get the attention [13:49] <DumbleDebbie> the Gryffindors had been on a string of winning things [13:49] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner [13:49] *** NBlovegood9294 has joined #lounge [13:49] <SoonerGryffindor> it is a bit of a mystery to me [13:49] <harryfreak359> And hufflepuff doesn't so they wanted them to win [13:49] <Aislinn> that's a good point, harryfreak [13:49] <DumbleDebbie> wb NBlove [13:49] <adamgryff> I agree hf [13:49] <An_Eternal_Night> I think that might be it, hf [13:50] <SoonerGryffindor> Why didn’t Hagrid believe Harry put his name in the Goblet? [13:50] <NBlovegood9294> ahh, I signed on again by accident [13:50] <NBlovegood9294> see ya guys [13:50] <DumbleDebbie> still supporting Cedric is one thing, wearing a "Potter Stinks" badge is another [13:50] <adamgryff> bye NB [13:50] <SoonerGryffindor> Why didn’t Hagrid believe Harry put his name in the Goblet? [13:50] <An_Eternal_Night> bye NB [13:50] *** NBlovegood9294 left #lounge [] [13:50] <Whisperwing> Because Hagrid has an unshakeable faith in Harry [13:50] <bemused> Hagrid trusts Harry's word [13:50] <An_Eternal_Night> Hagrid probably knew by the same way that Hermione knew [13:50] <DumbleDebbie> I guess I thought he did believe Harry [13:50] <Whisperwing> He was the one who ran to Harry's defense during Chamber of Secrets [13:50] <Aislinn> Because Hagrid gives unconditional loyalty to his friends [13:51] <DumbleDebbie> or do you think he only did b/c Dumbledore did? [13:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I still cant but wonder if DD's faith is what helped him reach that decision [13:51] <adamgryff> because trust is everything to Hagrid, so he believed Harry [13:51] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [13:51] <Aislinn> I don't think it had anything to do with DD [13:51] <Aislinn> I think Hagrid loves and trusts Harry [13:51] <SoonerGryffindor> but its one of the first things that he said [13:51] <An_Eternal_Night> I definitely agree Aislinn [13:51] <SoonerGryffindor> dont get me wrong... I dont think so either, but I think it is a point to consider [13:51] <Aislinn> I think he was just reassuring Harry that DD also believed him [13:51] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he was trying to let Harry know there were multiple people who believed him by mentioning DD [13:51] <bemused> He did say it, Sooner [13:52] <SoonerGryffindor> it might have helped him feel easier about that [13:52] <DumbleDebbie> I guess I'd like to give Hagrid more credit for believing the right thing on his own [13:52] <SoonerGryffindor> because in Hagrid's mind, if DD says something, it is so [13:52] <DumbleDebbie> well, it is so wink [13:52] <An_Eternal_Night> and it is! [13:53] <adamgryff> Hagrid does believe DD, but I think Hagrid has his own way of telling the truth or not [13:53] <harryfreak359> !ahhh, well, my laptop battery is getting low, I'll try to find the power cord, but if not, I'll see you guys tomorrow! [13:53] <bemused> I must go now - Happy Christmas, everyone! [13:53] <DumbleDebbie> bye HF [13:53] <adamgryff> bye hf [13:53] <DumbleDebbie> Happy Christmas bemused [13:53] <An_Eternal_Night> bye hf! bye bemused! [13:53] <harryfreak359> Happy Christmas! [13:53] *** bemused left #lounge [] [13:53] <adamgryff> bye bemused Merrry Christmas [13:53] <SoonerGryffindor> Why did Dumbledore beleive that Harry did not put his name in the Goblet of Fire? [13:54] <DumbleDebbie> he looked him in the eye and knew he wasn't lying [13:54] <Aislinn> I think Dumbledore knew that Harry wouldn't have been able to, and he also trusts Harry [13:54] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [13:54] <adamgryff> because DD knows when Harry is not telling the whole truth, he found that out in the COS [13:54] <Whisperwing> He's a Legilimens [13:54] <An_Eternal_Night> I don't think that DD would have used legilimency on Harry [13:54] <Aislinn> I don't think that DD routinely uses Legilimency on Harry, or any of the other students [13:54] <Whisperwing> But he wasn't using Legilimency, he was exercising his faith in Harry's nature [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> If you know a person well you can read then without legilimency [13:55] <Aislinn> I think that he would consider it a breach of privacy [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its mostly because DD knows Harry's heart and knows what a special kid he is [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> awww, that's sweet Sooner [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> they have always had a special connection [13:55] <Aislinn> and he is old and wise - he would not need it to be able to "read" Harry [13:55] <Aislinn> right, sooner [13:55] <adamgryff> I don't think that DD has to use Legilimency on the students he is a people person and can read body languaage [13:55] *** mrobs has joined #lounge [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome mrobs [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> right Adam [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> hi mrobs [13:55] <mrobs> hello [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Adam [13:55] <An_Eternal_Night> hi mrobs [13:56] <mrobs> hi all [13:56] <Aislinn> exactly adam [13:56] <SoonerGryffindor> we are talking about chapter 18 and 19 of GoF [13:56] <mrobs> Ahhh, I see. [13:56] <An_Eternal_Night> and he has a great understanding of human character [13:56] <adamgryff> There is a definet difference between harry in COS talking with DD than after the Goblet in this book [13:56] <DumbleDebbie> yes, AEN [13:56] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think of Draco’s badges? Did that do more to divide or unite the school? [13:56] <DumbleDebbie> Harry's not a good liar after all [13:57] <DumbleDebbie> he's pretty easy to spot when he's trying to lie [13:57] <adamgryff> I think they did help split the school sooner [13:57] <DumbleDebbie> divide for sure [13:57] <mrobs> divide [13:57] <SoonerGryffindor> Honestly they were funny. Just think of the potential Draco would have if he focused his energies for good rather than bad? [13:57] <DumbleDebbie> "Support Cedric Diggory" is OK. it's the "Potter Stinks" that was so devisive [13:57] <mrobs> even support Cedric Diggory divided [13:58] *** hpchick92 has joined #lounge [13:58] <An_Eternal_Night> that is very funny, a sort of Draco Santa Claus? [13:58] <mrobs> because there were two, it implies "Not Harry Potter" after it [13:58] <DumbleDebbie> I loved the scene of the Creevey brothers working so hard to try to reprogram the badges [13:58] <DumbleDebbie> hi hpchick [13:58] <SoonerGryffindor> he puts all of his energies into hating someone and going against them and if he would only be positive about it,... *sigh* Oh well, its not a perfect world [13:58] <SoonerGryffindor> hey hpchick [13:58] <An_Eternal_Night> hi hpchick [13:58] <hpchick92> hello! just trying to see what the chat is of [13:58] <SoonerGryffindor> we are talkingh about chapters 18 and 19 of GoF [13:58] <DumbleDebbie> yes, misplaced talent causes heaps of trouble in the series [13:58] <SoonerGryffindor> feel free to join in [13:59] <Whisperwing> Poor little Dennis... [13:59] <SoonerGryffindor> lol ww [13:59] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [13:59] <DumbleDebbie> wb HF [13:59] <adamgryff> wb hf [13:59] <mrobs> No kidding, look at Voldie [13:59] <harryfreak359> Thank you smile [13:59] <DumbleDebbie> exactly mrobs [13:59] <An_Eternal_Night> wb hf! [13:59] <DumbleDebbie> and Barty Jr [13:59] <harryfreak359> What is the current question? [13:59] <SoonerGryffindor> What was your reaction at Hermione getting hit by Draco’s jinx? What did you think of Pansy’s reaction? [13:59] <SoonerGryffindor> new one hf [13:59] <harryfreak359> biggrin [13:59] <DumbleDebbie> nasty [13:59] *** BlixDude left #lounge [] [13:59] <mrobs> and Neville.... [13:59] <mrobs> LOL [14:00] <SoonerGryffindor> typical [14:00] <DumbleDebbie> poor Hermione of all the things to get hit with [14:00] <harryfreak359> so typical [14:00] <Aislinn> I was mostly angry at Snape for his reaction to Hermione's predicament [14:00] <adamgryff> I think that is was a typical S vs. G situation [14:00] <hpchick92> it always has to be her and draco! [14:00] <mrobs> Me too aislinn [14:00] <DumbleDebbie> why would Draco's 1st jinx to Harry be that? [14:00] <SoonerGryffindor> I am also curious why Draco chose that one to use on Harry? [14:00] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [14:00] <An_Eternal_Night> I just have to say that I loved both Harry and Ron's reaction to Hermione getting hit [14:00] <DumbleDebbie> it' seems so targeted to Hermione's vulnerable point [14:00] <Aislinn> yes AEN [14:00] <DumbleDebbie> LOL Sooner wink [14:00] <harryfreak359> Yes, I agree, with you Debbie and Sooner, I often wondered that myself [14:00] <mrobs> yeah like in HBP in Draco insults her in the robes shop [14:00] <An_Eternal_Night> yes Aislinn, that was a very cruel thing for Snape to say [14:00] <SoonerGryffindor> seriously, Harry's jinx seemed much more painful [14:01] <DumbleDebbie> Snape was loathsome in this scene [14:01] <hpchick92> i agree sooner [14:01] <Whisperwing> Pansy was just prdictable, she's such a caricature of petty teenage girls [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I get the impression that Draco is not a world-class dueler [14:01] <Aislinn> absolutely disgusting, Debbie [14:01] <mrobs> Sooo out of character for Snape, eh? [14:01] <DumbleDebbie> I can't find the words Aislinn [14:01] <Aislinn> it may be what he knew how to cast, sooner [14:01] <harryfreak359> Yes, it was, Draco is not good in these situations, for him to pick that curse [14:01] <SoonerGryffindor> Why was Snape so belittling of Hermione’s injury (“I see no difference.”)? [14:02] <DumbleDebbie> because he's a vile, disgusting.... [14:02] * DumbleDebbie will stop there [14:02] <Aislinn> teen girls are so unsure of their body image, and to have Snape say that to her was deliberately cruel [14:02] <mrobs> murderer [14:02] <hpchick92> becuase it was draco who cast it [14:02] <Whisperwing> Because here was a chance to make her feel bad, when she offers him no such opportunity over the quality of her work [14:02] <An_Eternal_Night> to say that to a student... that is just sick [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> A lot of people know that I absolutely love the character of Severus Snape. However that was completely over the top even for him [14:02] <SoonerGryffindor> It surprised me [14:02] <Aislinn> He is such a bully [14:02] *** hpchick92 has quit [Bye] [14:02] <DumbleDebbie> more of the big bully picking on the weak link of a vulnerable target [14:02] <harryfreak359> Typical Snape reaction, and I think that he was a little disturbed by Moody and karkaroff as well...and Harry getting into the tournament [14:02] <adamgryff> Oh, that just makes me mad, he just likes to downgrade anyone who is freinds or close to Harry [14:02] <harryfreak359> it was definitely over the line though [14:03] <Aislinn> It was a really low, snivelling, snarky and nasty thing to do [14:03] <SoonerGryffindor> it was so over the line [14:03] <DumbleDebbie> way over HF [14:03] <mrobs> Hermione lets everything roll off her back typically but shes got some weak spots and Snape is obviously very astute [14:03] <DumbleDebbie> and so immature (which isn't surprising) [14:03] <harryfreak359> yup, Debbie, I agree [14:03] <Aislinn> it is one of the main reasons that I feel the way I do about the man [14:03] <SoonerGryffindor> I totally dig Snape's sense of humor (like when he pushes Bella's buttons) but this is one time I was not a fan of it [14:03] <harryfreak359> Yeah, Sooner, I agree [14:03] <mrobs> it wasn't funny [14:03] <DumbleDebbie> well, Bella is an adult [14:03] <mrobs> just mean [14:03] *** musicfreak1591 has joined #lounge [14:04] <Aislinn> This, and his treatment of Neville are completely unforgivable, in my opinion [14:04] <mrobs> yeah and I don't like her either! [14:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hi music freak [14:04] <DumbleDebbie> and frankly she deserves it, she dishes it too [14:04] <harryfreak359> Though if I were Hermioine, I wouldn't have let it bother me, because that is how Snape is and she knows that [14:04] <An_Eternal_Night> hi musicfreak [14:04] <DumbleDebbie> hi musicfreak [14:04] <musicfreak1591> hi [14:04] <harryfreak359> hi musicfreak [14:04] <DumbleDebbie> yes Aislin! [14:04] <Aislinn> Yes, the sharp biting wit with Bella is fine - they are equals [14:04] <mrobs> yeah but she has a crush on Ron so it was even more embarrasing! [14:04] <Aislinn> But it was such a sensitive area for her, harryfreak [14:05] <Aislinn> She has hated her teeth forever, as they are described as large and buck [14:05] <DumbleDebbie> but HF think of something that is your wek spot, that if someone criticize it, it hurts b/c you believe it too [14:05] <harryfreak359> Yeah, I know it was, but she couldn't have expected anythin nicer from him, though, but I understand what you are saying [14:05] <DumbleDebbie> and remember, she's 14 [14:05] *** musicfreak1591 has quit [Bye] [14:05] <mrobs> yeah and getting called a "long mollared mud-blood" doesn't help the situation [14:05] <DumbleDebbie> no it doesn't mrobs [14:05] <Aislinn> well, she certainly shouldn't expect sympathy, but that comment was even beyond his usual snarkiness [14:05] <Whisperwing> Still, offered her an opportunity, didn't it? [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> . Okay, moving along to Rita Skeeter. Why did Rita’s quick quotes quill twist everything Harry said? How did that make you feel? Amused? Angry? Annoyed? [14:06] <DumbleDebbie> yes, she made great lemonade out of that lemon [14:06] <An_Eternal_Night> yes Whisperwing, she was probably a bit grateful to Malfoy [14:06] <DumbleDebbie> typical 'journalist' [14:06] <mrobs> he could have just sent her to the hospital wing w/ no uneccesary comments [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> definitely annoyed [14:06] <DumbleDebbie> it was annoying, but really expected [14:06] <Whisperwing> Parents would never allow h er to see about magically reducing those teeth, now she just happened to have this drop into her lap [14:06] <harryfreak359> lol, Annoyed, yet a teeny bit amused...so typical [14:06] <adamgryff> I was definitley annoyed at this point [14:06] <An_Eternal_Night> I was both amused and annoyed [14:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how Jo has created this chariachature of a character -- I know I totally spelled that wrong [14:06] <mrobs> I was not amused. [14:07] <Aislinn> I thought it was really funny, just the way Jo created that, but for Harry, I totally understand why he would feel outraged [14:07] <An_Eternal_Night> and in the GoF movie... it was absolutely hilarious [14:07] <Whisperwing> The quill's got to be trained to Rita's style of writing, otherwise anyone would use it to write articles just like hers and make he rmoney [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> lol mrobs [14:07] <mrobs> Blech. Rita is up there with Umbridge for me [14:07] <DumbleDebbie> you can see how Harry would be *so* frustrated by it [14:07] <Aislinn> "I have NOT got tears in my eyes!" [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> it was a good lesson for Harry, though wasnt it? [14:07] <Whisperwing> I think the way she sucks on the quill before starting the interview activates the charm. [14:07] <SoonerGryffindor> could be ww [14:07] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, the quil seems to pick up on what she *wants* to write [14:07] <harryfreak359> lol, I would be very annoyed with Rita [14:07] <mrobs> maybe [14:07] <Whisperwing> SOr t of like 'from your lips to the parchment', as it were. [14:08] <Aislinn> LOL [14:08] <DumbleDebbie> lol ww [14:08] <mrobs> I am completely with Hermione on my feelings toward Rita [14:08] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think of Dumbledore’s intervention in the broom cupboard? [14:08] <DumbleDebbie> brilliant! [14:08] <harryfreak359> Loved it! [14:08] <adamgryff> I think it was great [14:08] <Whisperwing> That or she was deliberately being lewd to try to throw the teenage boy off his guard [14:08] <DumbleDebbie> I love that man happy_crying [14:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I loved his way of putting her in her place without being rude [14:08] <Aislinn> It was wonderfully droll [14:08] <mrobs> Yeah, ewww. [14:08] <An_Eternal_Night> exactly, all of you [14:08] <DumbleDebbie> yes! [14:08] <Wh This post has been edited by Aislinn: Dec 23 2006, 03:23 PM |
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[14:08] <Whisperwing> Yes, Dumbledore is spot on
[14:08] <harryfreak359> Me too Sooner [14:09] <DumbleDebbie> just like the 'accidental rudeness' line from HBP [14:09] <mrobs> Ha ha [14:09] <Whisperwing> Wonder if Harry had the invisibility cloak on his person at the time? [14:09] <harryfreak359> That's one of my favorite things about Dumbeldore [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:09] <Aislinn> yes, debbie, very much like that [14:09] <DumbleDebbie> smackdown with a smile [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> DD's sense of style is awesome [14:09] <mrobs> but he knows when to be genuinely serious too [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, he does [14:09] <harryfreak359> mmhmm, definitely [14:09] <mrobs> or at least he did (tears) [14:09] <Aislinn> what was his phrase about her take on him? Deliciously nasty? [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:09] <Aislinn> it was brilliant [14:09] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh [14:09] <An_Eternal_Night> Enchantingly nasty, lol [14:10] <Aislinn> that's it [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I do wonder how he knew to find them in there [14:10] <harryfreak359> hahahah [14:10] <mrobs> she is easier to swallow then Umbridge and that whats makes her worse in some ways [14:10] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he can see through walls as well as invisibilty cloaks? [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I think she is a brilliant character [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea Debbie [14:10] <mrobs> DD has probably got a Murauder's Map of his own [14:10] <harryfreak359> i think so too, Sooner [14:10] <SoonerGryffindor> Did it come as a surprise to find Fleur was part veela? Why or why not? [14:11] <mrobs> Not at all. [14:11] <harryfreak359> Nope, not one bit, she seemed like it anyways [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Ron gave us the hint [14:11] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he just started opening nearby doors knowing she'd be hiding nearby [14:11] <Aislinn> no, it made perfect sense [14:11] <DumbleDebbie> nope, not really a surprise [14:11] <adamgryff> Not really after seeing them at the world cup [14:11] <harryfreak359> yes Ron did give us a hint [14:11] <Whisperwing> Of course not, ROn predicted it after all and all his predictions seem to come true [14:11] <SoonerGryffindor> the saddest part of all of that is when Harry realized he couldnt tell Ron sad [14:12] <DumbleDebbie> lol ww [14:12] <mrobs> I was relieved and even felt a little sorry for Ron [14:12] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, that was *so* sad [14:12] <harryfreak359> yes, Sooner, it was sad [14:12] <An_Eternal_Night> that was very sad Sooner [14:12] <Aislinn> he does seem to make some interesting foreshadowing comments, doesn't he, WW? [14:12] <Aislinn> that was very sad, sooner, and so well written [14:12] <Whisperwing> Aw, bff's in a tiff, I cry. [14:12] <DumbleDebbie> b/c his 1st instinct was "I gotta tell Ron" [14:12] <adamgryff> it was sad sooner, because it means they really do care for each other [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:12] <harryfreak359> yes, that was what made it so sad, Debbie [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> What was the purpose of Ollivander being at the weighing of the wands? [14:12] <mrobs> cheer up people they make up!! [14:12] <SoonerGryffindor> lol mrobs [14:12] <Aislinn> that's just how it works - you automatically think of how your friend would react to sommething [14:13] <harryfreak359> Well, I think as foreshadowing that the wands were going to be important, I think [14:13] <mrobs> he is the Wand master [14:13] <DumbleDebbie> to ensure the safety of the champions? [14:13] <DumbleDebbie> yes Aislinn [14:13] <Aislinn> I think it was important to bring him back into the story, to remind us of his words about Harry's wand [14:13] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was to remind everybody of him and what he does [14:13] <mrobs> no funny business [14:13] <mrobs> or trick wands [14:13] <adamgryff> I think he wanted to size up the wands to make sure everyone was on a level playing field, [14:13] <harryfreak359> Yes, Aislinn, [14:13] <DumbleDebbie> maybe wands had been tampered with in past Tournaments [14:13] <SoonerGryffindor> and to remind everyone that Harry and LV's wands share the same core [14:13] <mrobs> it was to say goodbye before he disappeared [14:14] <DumbleDebbie> lol mrobs [14:14] <Aislinn> yes adam, I think they needed to have an objective expert evaluate the wands [14:14] <Whisperwing> You have to check that your equipment is in working order, like weigh-ins before horse races and wrestling matches [14:14] <harryfreak359> That I think was an important part of it too, Adam [14:14] <Aislinn> right WW [14:14] <SoonerGryffindor> I am just happy that he didnt tell everyone all about Harry's wand [14:15] <harryfreak359> Me too Sooner [14:15] <mrobs> No kidding! [14:15] <adamgryff> I was too [14:15] <Aislinn> me too, sooner [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> that could have been disaster! [14:15] <An_Eternal_Night> that would have been awful for Harry [14:15] <mrobs> That should be like classified info [14:15] *** A-C-E has joined #lounge [14:15] <harryfreak359> A very big mess [14:15] <Aislinn> Rita would have had a field day with that information [14:15] <An_Eternal_Night> and with Rita Skeeter there.... *shudders* [14:15] <SoonerGryffindor> makes me wonder why he didt? He told everyone all about Cedric's [14:15] <adamgryff> I wonder if it is classified to only a few people mrobs [14:15] <harryfreak359> Rita would have nearly exploed with such info [14:15] *** A-C-E has quit [Bye] [14:15] <Aislinn> maybe DD asked him not to [14:15] <DumbleDebbie> that would have been bedlam [14:15] <mrobs> ooohhhh good point sooner [14:15] <harryfreak359> exploded* [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> could be, but I dont think so Aislinn [14:16] <mrobs> i think maybe DD told Olivander not to say [14:16] <mrobs> Ha! [14:16] <An_Eternal_Night> that seems like something that Dumbledore would do [14:16] <mrobs> yeah it does [14:16] <Aislinn> Ollivander also could have just decided that bringing up Voldy at that point would have been inappropriate [14:16] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he's got some guilt over being the one who made Voldy's wand? that's been used for such horrific things? [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> lol. True [14:16] <SoonerGryffindor> Okay, moving on to Chapter 19 [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think of Harry’s reaction to the article-related taunts? [14:17] <mrobs> maybe Voldie doesn't want people to know if he does know and Olivander is working for Voldie even in GoF [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I think his reaction was typical [14:17] <DumbleDebbie> you mean his lashing out? it had to wear on the kid, the incessant jeers [14:17] <harryfreak359> Well, it was all understandable [14:17] <mrobs> once again he is 14 [14:17] <Aislinn> I think that he does a pretty good job of dealing with the difficulties of fame, considering, but it is natural to reach a breaking point [14:17] <SoonerGryffindor> so cute the way he started yelling and it was Cho laugh [14:18] <adamgryff> harry is used to this sort of thing by now, but he does seem to be getting a little tired of it [14:18] <harryfreak359> I agree completely Aislin [14:18] <DumbleDebbie> yes, Adam [14:18] <harryfreak359> *Aislinn [14:18] <Aislinn> it was cute sooner [14:18] <DumbleDebbie> poor kid got a bit worn down with it all [14:18] <harryfreak359> That was cute Sooner [14:18] <mrobs> well Rita is like salt in a wound that way [14:18] <mrobs> she makes it unbearable [14:18] <Whisperwing> What a Sean Penn moment, eh? [14:18] <DumbleDebbie> and he might have been able to take it better had Ron been by his side [14:18] <SoonerGryffindor> lol ww [14:18] <harryfreak359> Definitely worn down, I mean that is a lot to take in a few days [14:19] <harryfreak359> 1) getting entered into a dangerous tournament 2) your friend isn [14:19] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Debbie. This is one of the times where Ron's presence would have made things a lot easier for Harry to handle [14:19] <DumbleDebbie> yup, I think so [14:19] <mrobs> Ron could laugh it off [14:19] <harryfreak359> 't speaking to you, 3) nasty articels in the paper [14:19] <SoonerGryffindor> true hf [14:19] <Aislinn> right HF [14:19] <harryfreak359> He handled it well enoguh I think [14:19] <adamgryff> I agree with you hf, things do tend to get piled up sometimes [14:19] <harryfreak359> enough* [14:19] <An_Eternal_Night> I agree hf [14:19] <DumbleDebbie> Ron's being AWOL must've hurt more than the taunts [14:19] <mrobs> sometimes?? [14:20] <Aislinn> I agree debbie [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron provides the laughter in Harry's life. With no laughte how was he supposed to blow off steam? [14:20] <harryfreak359> Please excuse all my typos, I can't type today [14:20] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> plus there was no quidditch to help Harry relieve stress eithe [14:20] <harryfreak359> I agree Debbie [14:20] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Jane [14:20] <adamgryff> not to worry hf [14:20] <adamgryff> Hi jane [14:20] <harryfreak359> Hi Jane [14:20] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Harry definitely had the rug pulled out from under him there [14:20] <Aislinn> we understand you anyway, hf smile [14:20] <DumbleDebbie> hi Jane [14:20] <JaneMarple9> Hello all w00t2 [14:20] <Aislinn> Hi Jane [14:20] <An_Eternal_Night> no problem hf smile [14:20] <An_Eternal_Night> hi jane [14:20] <DumbleDebbie> Jane is excited smile [14:21] <mrobs> that sort of a theme in GoF. Harry getting the rug pulled out from under him [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> we are on chapter 19 now Jane [14:21] <harryfreak359> lol [14:21] <DumbleDebbie> see Jane bounce wink [14:21] <JaneMarple9> yep...christmas and the new title too! [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> How did Rita get the back ground information on Harry and Hermione? [14:21] <An_Eternal_Night> I agree Sooner, he had no stress-relieving outlet [14:21] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, mrobs. lots of surpriese [14:21] <mrobs> mostly bad [14:21] <DumbleDebbie> listening to the gossip of other students [14:21] <JaneMarple9> she might have asked people [14:21] <Aislinn> well, she was good at talking to people to dig for info [14:21] <SoonerGryffindor> bug [14:21] <DumbleDebbie> in which form, I don't know [14:21] <harryfreak359> Well, she has a way of getting that stuff [14:21] <DumbleDebbie> wink [14:22] <adamgryff> I was just about to say that sooner [14:22] <JaneMarple9> who had gone to school with harrys parents [14:22] <SoonerGryffindor> she was being a beetle even back then evidentally [14:22] <DumbleDebbie> she could have probably gotten it either way, but it sounds like overheard gossip [14:22] <mrobs> yeah [14:22] <JaneMarple9> reporters love finding out bad things! [14:22] <DumbleDebbie> and kids might be reluctant to blab that stuff to an adult [14:22] <harryfreak359> Yup, I agree Debbie [14:22] <JaneMarple9> probably hanging out at the hogs head [14:22] <mrobs> yeah, so talk to a Slytherin [14:22] <JaneMarple9> and keeping her ears open [14:23] <mrobs> Pansy is the ideal nasty little gossip [14:23] <DumbleDebbie> I agree Sooner, she most likely overheard it while in animagus form [14:23] <Aislinn> yes she is, mrobs [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Pickling rats’ brains in Snape’s dungeon. Aside from being gross, what did you think of Snape’s idea of a detention? [14:23] <harryfreak359> Yes, mrobs she is [14:23] <Whisperwing> Or of course talking directly to Slytherins. Pansy would surely have been delighted to feed nasty rumors about Hermione to Rita [14:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was interesting that it was RAT's brains [14:23] <harryfreak359> Ummm...better than Umbridge's quill [14:23] <DumbleDebbie> gross [14:23] <adamgryff> I think it has to be the bottom of the barrel [14:23] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [14:23] <JaneMarple9> the sort of thing snape would do [14:24] <mrobs> No kidding Hf [14:24] <Aislinn> it is a disgusting detention, but probably useful for him - that way he doesn't have to do the job [14:24] <DumbleDebbie> interesting that he had them serve it together when they were fighting [14:24] <JaneMarple9> yes good point harryfreak [14:24] <DumbleDebbie> yes HF it is [14:24] <An_Eternal_Night> I think it might persuade me to be good if I had a detention with him! [14:24] <Whisperwing> Wonder what application rat brains has in potion making? [14:24] <JaneMarple9> no matter how horrid snape is umbridge is worse [14:24] <Aislinn> yes, hf - the quill was by far the worst detention [14:24] <harryfreak359> Perfect Snape detention though, and at least it is in some way productive [14:24] <JaneMarple9> agreed AEN! [14:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think there is a PP reference hidden somewhere in there [14:24] <adamgryff> yes it was productive hf [14:24] <JaneMarple9> a few detentions with Snape and you may reform [14:24] *** A-C-E has joined #lounge [14:25] <mrobs> I think thats why it was less cruel than Umbridge. [14:25] <DumbleDebbie> did Snape know Harry and Ron were quarrelling? maybe have detention together (if he knew they wre fighting) was a way to punish them more [14:25] <harryfreak359> lol, probably true, Jane laugh [14:25] <DumbleDebbie> hi ACE [14:25] <JaneMarple9> that just occured to me too sooner [14:25] <mrobs> Snape's det. was at least usefull [14:25] <A-C-E> HEY [14:25] <SoonerGryffindor> All of Snapes detentions seemed to actually be useful [14:25] <harryfreak359> Hi ACE [14:25] <Aislinn> good point, debbie [14:25] <An_Eternal_Night> hi ACE [14:25] <SoonerGryffindor> hi ACE [14:25] <A-C-E> Aislinn: hey [14:25] <harryfreak359> Yes, they do Sooner [14:25] <JaneMarple9> hi ace [14:25] <A-C-E> hey [14:25] <mrobs> he is an efficient seeming man [14:25] <DumbleDebbie> i'll give him efficient [14:25] <JaneMarple9> yes although the detentions are horrid for harry [14:25] <mrobs> lol dd [14:26] <DumbleDebbie> better than making Neville de-gut toads [14:26] <harryfreak359> mmhmm [14:26] <JaneMarple9> they always seem productive in the end [14:26] *** Whisperwing has quit [Bye] [14:26] <SoonerGryffindor> Did Hermione protest too much about Krum? Or do you think she might have noticed him? [14:26] <mrobs> Umbie however was clearly not efficient [14:26] <Aislinn> McGonagall's were productive types as well [14:26] <DumbleDebbie> she must've noticed a bit [14:26] <adamgryff> I think Hermione noticed him [14:26] <mrobs> Oh she noticed [14:26] <JaneMarple9> just as lockharts detention was....when harry heard the voice [14:26] *** Whisperwing has joined #lounge [14:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant decide [14:26] <DumbleDebbie> wb ww [14:26] <harryfreak359> yes, I think that she noticed him a bit, but I am still undecided [14:26] <JaneMarple9> hermione admired krum [14:26] <DumbleDebbie> but she also gets annoyed with the Quidditch hoopla [14:27] <Aislinn> I think that she was genuinely frustrated by the giggling girls [14:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Did Hermione protest too much about Krum? Or do you think she might have noticed him? <---- that is the q that you missed WW [14:27] <mrobs> i think she likes the attention [14:27] <Aislinn> She didn't seem all that impressed with him [14:27] *** A-C-E has quit [Bye] [14:27] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn, I would have been too [14:27] <An_Eternal_Night> I think so too Aislinn [14:27] <JaneMarple9> because there isn't many of his calibre around [14:27] <mrobs> what 14 year old wouldn't be [14:27] <DumbleDebbie> I think the attraction grew with the library time, and observing his reaction to the fangirls [14:27] <JaneMarple9> she didn't like the "fan girls" though [14:27] <SoonerGryffindor> honestly, I dont think Hermione ever fan-girled him [14:27] <DumbleDebbie> he seemed rather annoyed with them as well, which probably impressed Hermione [14:27] <mrobs> especially if he was sneaking clandestine glances at her in the library [14:28] <Aislinn> yes, I think she was reacting more to the fan girls than she was Krum himself [14:28] <harryfreak359> I don't either, Sooner, she is not that type [14:28] <JaneMarple9> but she did with lockhart [14:28] <DumbleDebbie> I agree Sooner [14:28] <harryfreak359> And I agree with that as well Aislinn [14:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I think what got her attention is that he was a boy who took an interest in her as a girl [14:28] <JaneMarple9> I think she worshiped lockhart at the begining [14:28] <mrobs> she is over compensating with her negative comments [14:28] <Whisperwing> Oh it's so Moonlighting, isn't it? [14:28] <Aislinn> that was the only time we've seen her not be sensible, Jane [14:29] <mrobs> she does sort of go for the celebrities [14:29] <JaneMarple9> yes she seems to be sensible after the "Lockhart incident" smile [14:29] <SoonerGryffindor> Is Jo’s observation that time has a disobliging habit of speeding up when you are dreading something valid? Has that happened to you? [14:29] <Aislinn> Lockhart's the only one she went for [14:29] <harryfreak359> Yes, I agree Jane [14:29] <Whisperwing> Oh I think she was impressed by him at the Quidditch World Cup [14:29] <mrobs> of course! [14:29] <JaneMarple9> she does doesn't she....krum, lockhart [14:29] <DumbleDebbie> yes, that's life [14:29] <Aislinn> oh yes, that is a very true thing [14:29] <harryfreak359> Oh, yes, a lot of times [14:29] <An_Eternal_Night> it is too true [14:29] <SoonerGryffindor> It goes fast and then slow for me [14:29] <JaneMarple9> and even harry in a way [14:29] <adamgryff> You had to ask that questions sooner, yes is does [14:29] <Aislinn> Einstein's theory and all that wink [14:29] <mrobs> slow if you are looking forward to something [14:29] <DumbleDebbie> and it's acceleration grows with increasing age [14:29] <Whisperwing> As it draws out interminably when you're looking forward to something [14:30] <JaneMarple9> oh lots of times [14:30] <mrobs> like DH [14:30] <JaneMarple9> the nice times always go fast [14:30] <SoonerGryffindor> yes they do [14:30] <harryfreak359> It happens a lot, [14:30] <DumbleDebbie> with Einstein time slows the faster you move [14:30] <JaneMarple9> and horrible times always go slow [14:30] <Aislinn> yes, debbie, it's amazing how much quicker time goes the older you get [14:30] <JaneMarple9> particulally with exams [14:30] <SoonerGryffindor> vacations always fly by. Doctors appoinments -- not so much [14:30] <Aislinn> hehehe [14:30] <DumbleDebbie> lol [14:30] <harryfreak359> lol [14:30] <adamgryff> or packing stuff up [14:30] <harryfreak359> Agreed, Aooner [14:30] <harryfreak359> Sooner* [14:30] <DumbleDebbie> true Adam [14:31] <mrobs> kids growing up, but not when they have colic [14:31] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Adam, or cleaning [14:31] <JaneMarple9> yes, as you grow older, the times seems to go faster [14:31] <harryfreak359> Ughhh...cleaning... [14:31] <DumbleDebbie> lol HF [14:31] <JaneMarple9> and you wait for christmas for ages.... [14:31] <DumbleDebbie> then it's over in a flash [14:31] <harryfreak359> And during these chats, time just flies... [14:31] *** WednesdaysChild has joined #lounge [14:31] <mrobs> and HP and the DH [14:31] <JaneMarple9> and then POOF gone! [14:31] <Aislinn> remember how long summer vacation was when you were a little kid? and now, summer goes by in the blink of an eye [14:31] <DumbleDebbie> yes it does HF [14:31] <Whisperwing> I have to bake a cake soon -- before my mom gets to the mix and makes it. She manages to mix it in a way that leaves a ribbon of egg white trailig through the middle of the cake and I really don't want to see that happen to this poor lovely Dark Chocolate Fudge cake. [14:31] <DumbleDebbie> hi Wednesday [14:31] *** WednesdaysChild has quit [Bye] [14:31] <An_Eternal_Night> exactly, Christmas is a great example [14:31] *** A-C-E has joined #lounge [14:31] <SoonerGryffindor> yes to everyone [14:31] <harryfreak359> And Christmas...great example [14:31] <A-C-E> yes yes [14:32] <DumbleDebbie> wb ACE [14:32] <Whisperwing> My doctor's appointments go quickly -- when I have PotterCast and a Potter book to occupy myself with [14:32] <Aislinn> yes, Christmas is a great example [14:32] <JaneMarple9> and birthdays [14:32] <harryfreak359> I wish I had 2 more weeks until xmas, but it just seemed to fly right up there [14:32] *** A-C-E has quit [Bye] [14:32] <Whisperwing> Oh only half an hour left here, I shouldn't have to leave [14:32] <DumbleDebbie> you look forward to those Jane? oiy [14:32] <Whisperwing> I wish I had two more -checks- to Christmas, let me tell you [14:33] <Aislinn> lol [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think of Hagrid showing Harry the dragons? [14:33] <DumbleDebbie> not very sporting of him [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> wrong [14:33] <Aislinn> I thought it was classic Hagrid behaviour [14:33] <JaneMarple9> I always have something to look forward too [14:33] <harryfreak359> Well, not fair at all, but typical Hagrid [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I love Hagrd, but that was just plain wrong [14:33] <DumbleDebbie> yes, it was Sooner [14:33] <JaneMarple9> i think it was a very "Hagrid" thing to do [14:33] <Whisperwing> I think he was not even considering the fact that it might be cheating, he just wanted Harry to see something he thinks of as beautiful [14:33] <adamgryff> I think it was wrong, but Hagrid does get a little crazy when it comes to dragons, he wanted to show his friend [14:33] <DumbleDebbie> I think he knew he was giving Harry a leg up [14:33] <An_Eternal_Night> I didn't really like it [14:33] <Aislinn> I'm not fussed that he showed Harry [14:33] <JaneMarple9> I don't think it was wrong...trying to prepare harry [14:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I seriously think that somewhere in his mind he had to realize it was wrong [14:33] <DumbleDebbie> otherwise he wouldn't have told him to wear the cloak [14:34] <SoonerGryffindor> right Debbie [14:34] <DumbleDebbie> you don't hide behavior that is right [14:34] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly [14:34] <Aislinn> Harry never should have been in the Tournament, and didn't know enough magic, just by virtue of his age, to be able to compete safely [14:34] <Whisperwing> And if it was something he knew was giving Harry an advantage, why did he invite Maxime? [14:34] <An_Eternal_Night> I think he was too lovestruck Sooner ;) [14:34] <harryfreak359> I wasn't much upset over it either, Aislinn, but it still wasn't fair [14:34] <JaneMarple9> he was more interested in showing maxime [14:34] <SoonerGryffindor> so you think that by Hagrid showind Harry and giving him an unfair advantage was right? [14:34] <DumbleDebbie> men! always trying to impress [14:34] <Aislinn> so putting him in a ring with a dragon with not preparation would have been a dangerous thing to do [14:35] <harryfreak359> yes, Aislinn, i agree with that [14:35] <SoonerGryffindor> but how is that fair to the other competitors? [14:35] <DumbleDebbie> I would think Hagrid would have trusted Dumbledore to keep Harry safe [14:35] <Aislinn> It wasn't an unfair advantage - as fakeMoody said, cheating held a long tradition in the competition [14:35] <harryfreak359> he did not know nearly as much magic as they did [14:35] <JaneMarple9> i think he knew that the others would find out too [14:35] <SoonerGryffindor> the other 3 put their names in on purpose and deserved an even playing field [14:35] <Aislinn> they were 3 years older than him sooner [14:35] <Aislinn> how was that fair/ [14:35] <Aislinn> ? [14:35] <Whisperwing> No one stopped Karkarov from finding out [14:35] <Aislinn> they had 3 more years of wizarding education [14:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I understand, but the way I look at it is that Harry's problems were not their concern [14:35] <JaneMarple9> he knew harry would tell cedric in the end [14:35] <Whisperwing> And recall, at some point it's said that 'cheating' is a tradition in the TriWizard Tournament [14:36] <adamgryff> I felt sorry for cedric no one was cheating for him [14:36] <Aislinn> by that logic, theirs are not his concern either [14:36] <SoonerGryffindor> If I have worked really hard for something, that does not give someone else the right to take it away from me [14:36] <Aislinn> well, Harry did, didn't he, adam [14:36] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think he thought of that Jane [14:36] <adamgryff> yes he did aislinn [14:36] <Whisperwing> Well Professor Sprout wouldn't think of it would she? [14:36] <Aislinn> who took anything away from anybody, sooner? [14:36] *** mrobs has quit [Bye] [14:37] <SoonerGryffindor> by giving advantage to Harry, the edge was being taken away from the other 3 [14:37] *** mrobs has joined #lounge [14:37] <Aislinn> he had no advantage [14:37] <DumbleDebbie> wb mrobs [14:37] <SoonerGryffindor> he woud have [14:37] <mrobs> tx [14:37] <Whisperwing> They got the same advantage [14:37] <Aislinn> knowing that he was facing a dragon did not change the fact that he knows MUCH less magic than them [14:37] <DumbleDebbie> only because several others did what was wrong too [14:37] <SoonerGryffindor> only becasue they all knew [14:37] <Aislinn> if anything, it would just act to increase the levelness of the playing field [14:38] <Whisperwing> If Hagrid hadn't done it, Harry would have been maybe the only one other than Cedric who didn't know what was coming [14:38] <Aislinn> right whisper [14:38] <harryfreak359> Yes, Whisper [14:38] <Aislinn> and been completely unprepared, with no tools at his disposal [14:38] <SoonerGryffindor> lets look at it this way: If you are a college team playing against a high school team, is it fair to spot them a couple of touchdowns just because they are younger, or should they start out even? [14:38] <Aislinn> yes, it is fair to spot them [14:38] <SoonerGryffindor> this is the way I look at it [14:39] <Aislinn> it is like handicapping in golf [14:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I disagree [14:39] <Whisperwing> And if a Slytherin had been chosen for champion you KNOW Severus would have been right out there finding out every possible way togive him or her an advantage [14:39] <DumbleDebbie> no it's unfair to spot points, that's not how the game should be played [14:39] <harryfreak359> Different thing, Sooner, anways, the football teams aren't facing possible death anyways [14:39] <Aislinn> you are talking about 14 year olds and 17 year olds - that is a huge difference, developmentally [14:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I still think it was unfair [14:39] <Whisperwing> This is more like watching tapes of the other team's playing to get an idea of how to defend against them. [14:39] *** mrobs has quit [Bye] [14:39] <DumbleDebbie> it would make the yournger kids tougher to play tougher oponents [14:39] <Aislinn> I think that, to use your example, it would be like pitting a high school team against a junior high team [14:40] <Whisperwing> The other champions aren't the enemy, the dragon is. [14:40] <SoonerGryffindor> of course, I still think that it was a travesty that Harry was in it in the first place [14:40] <Aislinn> how would it be fair to the junior high team to be in that positioin? [14:40] <harryfreak359> And it didn't give Harry any more points to win the tournament by telling him what was happening [14:40] <SoonerGryffindor> but if they agree to play, then it should start even [14:40] *** neil22 has joined #lounge [14:40] <DumbleDebbie> hi neil [14:40] <Aislinn> I couldn't disagree with you more sooner [14:40] <Whisperwing> Harry would have gladly backed out, he was magically bound to participate despite his own will [14:40] <neil22> hello..how's everyone? [14:40] <harryfreak359> Harry didn't agree play [14:40] * SoonerGryffindor and Aislinn are gonig to have to aggree to disagree and let this chat move on laugh [14:41] <Aislinn> there is nothing fair about pitting 2 opponents against each other that are at completely different levels of ability [14:41] <DumbleDebbie> good neil, we're talking about Hagrid cheating and showing Harry the dragons [14:41] <harryfreak359> I agree completely Aislinn [14:41] <Aislinn> and Harry didn't enter this voluntarily [14:41] <DumbleDebbie> life's not fair Aislinn [14:41] <Aislinn> and it is a deadly competition [14:41] <Aislinn> it is not just a sports match [14:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Was Maxime really interested in Hagrid, or was she just using him? [14:41] <neil22> That was good of Hagrid [14:41] <Whisperwing> Many champions in the past had died [14:41] <harryfreak359> Harry was thrown into this, he did not have nearly as much experience and it was a life and death kind of thign [14:41] <DumbleDebbie> I think using him at first [14:42] <Aislinn> I think using him at first [14:42] <DumbleDebbie> but then she grew to like him later [14:42] <DumbleDebbie> lol Aislinn [14:42] <harryfreak359> Using him at first then I think she got a bit interested in him [14:42] <Whisperwing> It was a bit of both, more using in the beginning and then becoming more real as things went along [14:42] <adamgryff> I think that Maxime is interested in Hagrid, but was using him here [14:42] <An_Eternal_Night> by just taking what happens in GoF, I would think that she was using him. but in OotP, it seems that she was really interested in him [14:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I think at first she may have been using him, but then it changed later [14:42] <An_Eternal_Night> yes, I agree with you all [14:42] <Whisperwing> Like in Ten Things I Hate About You when Heath Ledger was hired to date the older sister and he wound up really falling for her [14:43] <JaneMarple9> I think she secretly likes Hagrid [14:43] <JaneMarple9> she may not have known many "big boned" people smile [14:44] <harryfreak359> lol, yes I agree Jane [14:44] <DumbleDebbie> they're not exactly common from what we've seen [14:44] <Whisperwing> Oh it seems even in GoF that she was interested, after the big blow out over not being half giant, the way she kept giving him wistful looks. [14:44] <JaneMarple9> but she is still in denial of what she really is [14:44] <harryfreak359> Yes, Whisper, she was, I think [14:44] <JaneMarple9> hagrid has never hid what he is...then again, pretty hard to hide! biggrin [14:44] <Whisperwing> But right now in chapter 19, she's still at the using him stage [14:44] <Aislinn> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. [14:44] <neil22> I think Maxime likes Hagrid..she was just peeved that Hagrid thought she was a giant [14:45] <SoonerGryffindor> What did you think about Karkaroff being a former Death Eater? Why did Dumbledore allow Karkaroff within Hogwarts? Why was Karkaroff the headmaster of any school? [14:45] <Aislinn> And a reminder, that tomorrow's chat topic has been changed to the new Book TItle [14:45] <JaneMarple9> i wasn't supprised [14:45] <harryfreak359> Not surprised at all [14:45] <DumbleDebbie> that's a lot of questions! [14:45] <Whisperwing> If Durmstrang concentrates on teaching the Dark Arts, being a Death Eater was probably a plus on his resume [14:45] <JaneMarple9> he seemed to be the type of person to be a death-eater or someone to be wary of [14:45] <DumbleDebbie> I was worried about him being a DE [14:45] <An_Eternal_Night> thanks Aislinn [14:45] <JaneMarple9> as soon as we are introduced to him [14:45] <harryfreak359> And well it was a school that was taught the Dark Arts, was it not? So no not surprised about him being a headmast either [14:45] <neil22> I trust Dumbledore's decisions completely.. [14:45] <harryfreak359> headmaster* [14:45] <adamgryff> I wasn't surprised, I mean after all Lucious was a school govern. He could cover up things pretty well [14:46] <Whisperwing> That little frisson of recognition when he and Snape met eyes in the Great Hall? [14:46] <Aislinn> It is disturbing that a former DE who was imprisoned at Azkaban would be put in the position of Headmaster [14:46] <An_Eternal_Night> Dumbledore is all about second chances [14:46] <DumbleDebbie> DD gives people a lot of benefit and he seemed to hire Moody to keep a amgical eye on things [14:46] <JaneMarple9> i trust dumbledore too, he always gives people lots of chances [14:46] <DumbleDebbie> Karkaroff is great as a headmaster if you're a DE in hding and want your kids to get a 'proper' education [14:46] <harryfreak359> Yeh, disturbing Aislinn, I wouldn't want a Headmaster to be a former DE, but with the school he waas headmaster of it was not all that surprising they let him in [14:47] <JaneMarple9> yes perhaps he hired the "real" Moody to watch Karkaoff [14:47] <Whisperwing> Lucius did want Draco enrolled there after all [14:47] <neil22> Dumbledore never figured the "fake" Moody out, though.. [14:47] <Aislinn> true hf [14:47] <An_Eternal_Night> good point hf [14:47] <Aislinn> I think he definitely did that Jane [14:47] <JaneMarple9> but he must had known how the really Moody felt about Karkaoff [14:47] <Aislinn> and because he suspected that activities on the dark side were increasing [14:47] <harryfreak359> I think so too Jane, for part of it at aleast [14:47] <JaneMarple9> but then again, perhaps that is the fake Moody's feelings coming out [14:48] <neil22> Why didn't DD do legilimency on fake Moody? [14:48] <Whisperwing> If he'd been at Durmstrang, do you think Draco would have been more confident, being surrounded by others raised with the same values as he learned in the home? [14:48] <Whisperwing> Less of an attention seeker? [14:48] <DumbleDebbie> i think Barty Jr is a great occlumens neil [14:48] <JaneMarple9> probably because he never suspected the fake moody [14:48] <DumbleDebbie> he was a very talented wizard [14:48] <JaneMarple9> yes debbie agreed [14:49] <Whisperwing> Why would Dumbledore have needed to use Legilimency before the revelation that he was not who he pretended to be? [14:49] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [14:49] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [14:49] <DumbleDebbie> wb Sooner [14:49] <neil22> Good point [14:49] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry [14:49] <harryfreak359> wb Sooner [14:49] <SoonerGryffindor> tekkie difficulties [14:49] <DumbleDebbie> computers! :P [14:49] <Whisperwing> What time tomorrow? [14:49] <JaneMarple9> 3 - 5 [14:49] <SoonerGryffindor> http://www.leakylounge.com/forums.html#entry1039376 [14:49] <SoonerGryffindor> also guys, check out that thread [14:49] <JaneMarple9> or 8 - 10 english time! [14:50] <SoonerGryffindor> it is something new we have [14:50] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, that's cool Sooner [14:50] <harryfreak359> nice, nice [14:50] <DumbleDebbie> can I ask something? [14:50] <Aislinn> sure [14:50] <Whisperwing> sweet [14:50] <DumbleDebbie> what do you think of the spells Ollivander used to test the wands? [14:50] <DumbleDebbie> Harry's seemed to foreshadow the spilling of his blood [14:51] <SoonerGryffindor> you guys can actually post your own question about the chat topics. So if thre is a topic you want to ask a specific question on, then you can ask it in there and we might use it in the chat [14:51] <JaneMarple9> I never thought I'd be discussing harry potter with lots of friends on Christmas Eve w00t2 [14:51] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [14:51] <DumbleDebbie> lol Jane [14:51] <Whisperwing> Wonderful way to ring in the New Year, too [14:51] <Aislinn> Do you think there was significance in all of them, Debbie, or just Harry's? [14:51] <harryfreak359> it is exciting Jane [14:51] <adamgryff> lol jane [14:51] <DumbleDebbie> and Pleshette had soem really good ideas about the others [14:51] <Whisperwing> Ooh are we having a New year's bash next week? Probably not eh? [14:51] <harryfreak359> Hmmm, that's interestin Debbie [14:51] <harryfreak359> interesting* [14:51] <DumbleDebbie> the descriptions of the wands seem to fit their personalities [14:51] <Whisperwing> Too soon afte rthe Yule Ball. [14:51] <neil22> I love "harry potter" years (ie. years when an HP movie/book comes out) [14:51] <SoonerGryffindor> we wil have a chat. We are going to bump Lilu [14:52] <SoonerGryffindor> y's secret to 12/31 [14:52] <JaneMarple9> oh yes! New years eve in the corner booth! [14:52] <harryfreak359> Whoo hoo! [14:52] <SoonerGryffindor> so tomorrow we can talk about Book 7 title theories [14:52] <An_Eternal_Night> and such an important and interesting topic, too! [14:52] <DumbleDebbie> I can't remember off the top of my head the others Aislinn, but it was neat [14:52] <SoonerGryffindor> that's why I have not made a poll for this week [14:52] <harryfreak359> That's will be an interesting chat tomorrow [14:52] <JaneMarple9> wow how exciting! [14:52] <JaneMarple9> still haven't calmed down from Thursday! [14:52] <Whisperwing> With a few days' research under our belts I'm sure it'll be even more fascinating than the one we had the day of the announcement [14:53] <SoonerGryffindor> me neither Jane [14:53] <harryfreak359> me either Jaen [14:53] <harryfreak359> Jane* [14:53] <SoonerGryffindor> so you guys make sure to visit the threads and look at all of the thoeries [14:53] <Whisperwing> Oh, I drew art for the book cover, it's in the Leaky Galleries forum [14:53] <JaneMarple9> we'll have the whole of book 7 written by the time it is out biggrin [14:53] <Aislinn> it has been really exciting [14:53] <An_Eternal_Night> Whisperwing, that is really beautiful! [14:53] *** neil22 has quit [Bye] [14:53] <DumbleDebbie> there are alot of neat ideas out there [14:53] <harryfreak359> Yup, I am going to be doing a lot of research when I get home tonight [14:53] <Whisperwing> Thanks! [14:53] <SoonerGryffindor> and we wil have a great chat toorrow [14:54] <adamgryff> yes, jane after going through those posts we will [14:54] <JaneMarple9> it must be so hard for the mods on leaky at the moment [14:54] <DumbleDebbie> and I think it'll end up having multiple meanings [14:54] <Aislinn> I like you pic a lot whisper! [14:54] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh [14:54] <DumbleDebbie> (((((((Sooner))))))) [14:54] <JaneMarple9> keeping all the comments on book 7, so nothing is spoiled [14:54] <DumbleDebbie> Unfogging has been a madhouse [14:54] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [14:54] <Whisperwing> Well apparently the one or two other threads I put the link into, it wasn't appropriate, thank heavens there was one it did belong in [14:54] <JaneMarple9> lucky moderators biggrin [14:55] <adamgryff> sooner's been working overtime you can tell by her read first post [14:55] * SoonerGryffindor says no comment [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [14:55] <harryfreak359> lol [14:55] <Aislinn> lots and lots of new members have joined us in the past 2 days [14:55] <DumbleDebbie> LOL you saw that too Adam? wink [14:55] <Whisperwing> wow [14:55] <Aislinn> still learning wink [14:55] <An_Eternal_Night> that's awesome! [14:55] <harryfreak359> Yes, I noticed that Aislinn [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> Hey! I only lost my cool a couple of times in the new threads blushing [14:55] <JaneMarple9> i couldn't believe how many were in here on thursday [14:55] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, I've been skipping over a lot of the newbie posts [14:55] <harryfreak359> lol Sooner [14:55] <JaneMarple9> when it was reoppened [14:55] <DumbleDebbie> that was very calm and collected Sooner [14:55] <An_Eternal_Night> lol [14:55] <Aislinn> Sooner has done amazingly well, considering [14:55] <SoonerGryffindor> *snort* [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> there has been a lot of hair pulling behind the scenes [14:56] <JaneMarple9> it was the fullest i've ever aeen it [14:56] <DumbleDebbie> what you typed, not what you were saying while you typed it! biggrin [14:56] <harryfreak359> I haven't been around a Leaky lately, since it is hard to get an internet connection and keep it out here [14:56] * adamgryff hands sooner a 2 x4 to keep the newbies in line [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> my arm would get tired Adam [14:56] <Whisperwing> Rusty nails removed, I hope? [14:56] <DumbleDebbie> LOL [14:56] <JaneMarple9> i should imagine we've had a lot of newbies join lately [14:56] <An_Eternal_Night> lol [14:56] <Aislinn> 500 on Thursday alone [14:56] <DumbleDebbie> cattle prod to keep 'em in line? [14:56] <SoonerGryffindor> excited people who just need a nudge in the right direction [14:56] <adamgryff> Wow 500! [14:56] <harryfreak359> Wow, poor Sooner, I do not envy you [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> its nice that we all love Harry so much [14:57] <JaneMarple9> i love that express 2 by 4, only just learned what it was....a piece of wood [14:57] <Whisperwing> A well timed Cruciatus curse ought to be enough to keep them in line [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL Jane [14:57] <harryfreak359> lol Janae [14:57] <harryfreak359> Jane* [14:57] <DumbleDebbie> that's a very generous way to look at it after all the cleanup you've been doing [14:57] <JaneMarple9> i always thought it was a 4 by 4 vechicle, what everyone was referring too! [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> um... I actually closed the title thread for about 20 minutes last night to clean it up a bit [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> it was a nice 20 minutes...... [14:57] <harryfreak359> lol [14:57] <DumbleDebbie> LOL!!! [14:57] <Whisperwing> wee [14:57] <Aislinn> So, we look forward to discussing the new title again in here tomorrow - hope you all can make it! [14:57] <Whisperwing> it's like, Calgon, take me away! [14:57] <SoonerGryffindor> yes! Time for us to go now [14:57] <JaneMarple9> can't wait aislinn [14:58] <DumbleDebbie> have a nice evening folks [14:58] <JaneMarple9> i t will be so so good! [14:58] <Aislinn> we'll have questions like we usually do, so it will be a little more structured than Thursday's chats [14:58] <Whisperwing> Group huggings! [14:58] <DumbleDebbie> (((((group))))) [14:58] * harryfreak359 gives everyone a big hug and Sooner an extra big one for all that hard work she has been doing [14:58] <adamgryff> okay, back to work [14:58] <JaneMarple9> have a good day all [14:58] <An_Eternal_Night> I had tons of fun today! it was a pretty small group here, but just as much fun!! [14:58] <SoonerGryffindor> defnitely [14:58] <JaneMarple9> ((((((((((((((((((everybody)))))))))))))))) [14:58] <Whisperwing> And gingerbread cookies for all! [14:58] <harryfreak359> bye guys, it was fun today! [14:58] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [14:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I need to go finish wrapping presents, so see you guys [14:58] <adamgryff> bye everyone it was fun [14:58] <Aislinn> great chat! See you all soon [14:58] *** adamgryff left #lounge [] [14:58] <Whisperwing> me too [14:58] <JaneMarple9> ((((((aislinn and sooner)))))))) especially big hug [14:58] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [14:58] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks everyone for being here [14:58] <Whisperwing> and by finish I mean start [14:58] <An_Eternal_Night> bye all, talk (type) to you soon! [14:59] *** An_Eternal_Night has quit [Bye] [14:59] <Whisperwing> Bye! [14:59] <JaneMarple9> ho ho ho all...only about 36 hours to go w00t2 [14:59] *** Whisperwing has quit [Bye] [15:00] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] --------------------  To listen and share great filks, check out Swishandfilk.com New stuff: Nina's Piece of Me, MJ's Return to Forever & my Now We'll See |
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