ReadingGroup Corner Booth Transcript: Jan 27, 2007, Goblet of Fire Chapters 26,27, & 28 |
 Jan 27 2007, 03:18 PM
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Expelliarmas, fawkes28, futureweasley, Mr. McGonagall, Poet, and SoonerGryffindor. [11:50] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [11:50] <danae24> Hola Sooner! [11:51] <SoonerGryffindor> hey guys! [11:51] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Sooner! [11:51] <Aislinn> Hi Sooner! [11:51] <suzb> Hey Sooner! [11:51] <blathnat> Hey Sooner [11:52] <suzb> how are we all this fine leaky bday? [11:53] <suzb> Quiet? [11:53] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [11:54] <suzb> hi Pleshette! [11:54] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Pleshette! [11:54] <danae24> Bonjour Pleshette! [11:54] <Pleshette> Hello Hello! [11:56] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [11:56] <danae24> Aloha Future! [11:56] <Pleshette> Hi Future! [11:56] <suzb> Hey Future and Fawkes [11:56] <fawkes28> hey all! [11:56] <Pleshette> Hello Fawkes! [11:56] <danae24> I guess i'm switching back to blue......... [11:56] <danae24> ok [11:57] <futureweasley> hi guys [11:57] <danae24> Guten Tag fawkes! [11:57] <suzb> hehe is it just me or are we out numbered by mods? (not that its a bad thing) [11:57] *** rae25rae has joined #lounge [11:57] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [11:57] <rae25rae> Hey [11:57] <SoonerGryffindor> Hello rae [11:57] <Aislinn> Hi rae! [11:57] <danae24> yes....... we have more mods........ [11:57] <futureweasley> hi rae25rae [11:58] *** Poet has joined #lounge [11:58] <suzb> hi rae25rae [11:58] <Pleshette> Hi rae25rae [11:58] <Aislinn> hey poet [11:58] <danae24> Namaste rae25rae [11:58] <SoonerGryffindor> its all good suzb [11:58] <danae24> Buon giorno Poet! [11:58] <Poet> hey Aislinn [11:58] * Poet takes a nap [11:58] <futureweasley> ingles, por favor? [11:58] <suzb> i wasnt complaining, just commenting mods are good! [11:58] <Poet> nein [11:58] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [11:58] <danae24> it's fun saying hello in different languages [11:59] <SoonerGryffindor> I am impresssed danae [11:59] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [11:59] <SoonerGryffindor> hi hf [11:59] <fawkes28> hey, hf smile [11:59] <rae25rae> I've only been in this chat once, sorry..how do I change the color of my text? [11:59] <Aislinn> hi hf smile [11:59] <harryfreak359> Hey everyone! [11:59] <danae24> I'm just copying and pasting the hello's.......... but I do know a few of them...... [11:59] <Poet> if (someone enter CB) {say hello;} [11:59] <SoonerGryffindor> down at the bottom right [11:59] <futureweasley> the >> on the bottom bar [11:59] <SoonerGryffindor> there are 2 arrows [11:59] <MrMcGonagall> Bottom right corner of your screen. Just click on the double arrow [11:59] <rae25rae> oh, ok, thankyou [11:59] <Pleshette> Poet, you asked a hard trivia question, lol [11:59] <Poet> Pink is my favortie color [12:00] <Poet> You think so Pleshette? [12:00] <danae24> Yes!!!....... I dont remember who kipnapped John........ [12:00] <Pleshette> I had one ready to go but you've got me stumped wink [12:00] <Aislinn> what was your question, Poet? [12:00] <Poet> I do - it was a staff member [12:00] <futureweasley> note to self: ask a question in the Corner Booth, get 4 answers [12:00] <danae24> hahahaha [12:00] <SoonerGryffindor> so is everyone excited about the events for the day? [12:00] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [12:01] <Pleshette> Whoo Hoo! [12:01] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Jane [12:01] <danae24> Yes...... [12:01] <Pleshette> Hi Jane! [12:01] <rae25rae> hi Jane [12:01] <danae24> Shalom Jane! [12:01] <suzb> everyone my sister says we are all losers sad Shout at her [12:01] <harryfreak359> Hi Jane! [12:01] <JaneMarple9> Hello everybody smile [12:01] <fawkes28> woo hoo smile [12:01] <suzb> hey Jane [12:01] <MrMcGonagall> We're glad to have you here, rae25rae. Hi, Jane! [12:01] <danae24> Booo to suzb's sister........ [12:01] <blathnat> Hey all [12:01] <rae25rae> My twin sister has FINALLY finished OotP and she really liked it [12:02] <rae25rae> but she wont ever go into a forum/chat [12:02] <JaneMarple9> losers for being Harry Potter fans? :-o I don't think so! biggrin [12:02] <SoonerGryffindor> Hey guys, we will have some general chatter for about 15 minutes and then we will start doing our q&a [12:02] <rae25rae> she thinks we're freaks also [12:02] <blathnat> lmao [12:02] <MrMcGonagall> I love being a freak. But no one is as freaky as our harryfreak359. [12:02] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M [12:02] <danae24> I love being a forum geek...... [12:02] <harryfreak359> awwwww *tear* thanks Mr M [12:02] <suzb> we all knows she wrong thats all that matters smile [12:02] <fawkes28> hf, you missed it wednesday night - i picked half-live just for you! [12:02] <rae25rae> i'm so glad for this chat...Mugglenet is a great site, but their chatroom is so crazy. there is no sort of order [12:02] <MrMcGonagall> You're welcome, hf! [12:03] <Poet> Anyone hungry? [12:03] <SoonerGryffindor> well, you've come to the right place rae [12:03] <Aislinn> we're glad you're joining us rae [12:03] <futureweasley> really, rae25? I've never been there [12:03] <Poet> I just had breakfast [12:03] <Pleshette> Did you bring snacks Poet? [12:03] <danae24> not that much..... I just had breakfast a few hours ago [12:03] <harryfreak359> Yeah, I had some family things to do Wednesday [12:03] <blathnat> *stomach rumbles* yeh i am hungry Poet [12:03] <MrMcGonagall> I went to the Mugglenet chat once. It was kind of crazy. No one seemed to be talking about Harry Potter. [12:03] <fawkes28> that is a shame, mr. m [12:03] <SoonerGryffindor> same here [12:03] <danae24> I have never been to the Mugglenet chat........ [12:03] <harryfreak359> And plus my internet like killed everything, I have finally fixed that thouhg [12:03] <futureweasley> no one talked about HP?! What's the point?! [12:03] * Poet passes around a basket of breakfast goodies [12:03] <rae25rae> Yes, people talk about the most random things at Mugglenet's Chat. I always go in there and try to get them to talk about HP, but it doesn't work [12:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hf, is your internet good today> [12:04] <harryfreak359> Yeah, I've been to one, too MrM, found the same thing [12:04] * Poet passes around yummy juices [12:04] <futureweasley> well, you can always find HP chat here! [12:04] <SoonerGryffindor> I think you will be pleasantly surprised here [12:04] <harryfreak359> yes it is, Sooner, I have fixed it [12:04] <SoonerGryffindor> yay [12:04] <danae24> I'll take a juice......... [12:04] <fawkes28> we love chatting about HP here! [12:04] <Aislinn> that's great news, hf! [12:04] * futureweasley is glad to have you here! [12:04] * JaneMarple9 munches on Poets goodies...yum!! [12:04] <rae25rae> I've been here once. It was a discussion about the Heroes' Journey, but i wasnt so informed about it then [12:04] * danae24 is happily sipping some apple juice [12:05] <suzb> can i ask a dumb question? how do you get that *and then your name and whatever you typed in? [12:05] <rae25rae> i've been reading up on it though, because everyone in here is pretty well-informed [12:05] <fawkes28> type / me without the space [12:05] <rae25rae> yeah, i dont know how to do that either, suzb [12:05] <SoonerGryffindor> type /me [12:05] <JaneMarple9> without the space [12:05] <Aislinn> We're going to be talking about the Hero journey in a more formal way again this Wed [12:05] * suzb thanks fawkes [12:05] <rae25rae> cool [12:06] * fawkes28 great job suzb [12:06] <futureweasley> rae, it's because our boss, Aislinn, is a total Hero's Journey buff. It's either we learn it, or die [12:06] <harryfreak359> that's cool, Aislinn. [12:06] <suzb> yay [12:06] <rae25rae> lol [12:06] <Pleshette> lol [12:06] <harryfreak359> lol [12:06] <fawkes28> LOL [12:06] <danae24> hahahaha......... hurray for Aislinn [12:06] <SoonerGryffindor> *snort* [12:06] * Poet doesn't want to die [12:06] <Aislinn> tongue [12:06] <blathnat> lol [12:06] * rae25rae doesn't know how to use this [12:06] * suzb passes out butterbeer with her new found skills [12:06] <rae25rae> yay, i did it [12:06] * fawkes28 thinks someone is cracking the whip around here [12:06] * harryfreak359 thinks rae does [12:06] <fawkes28> woo hoo rae25! [12:07] <rae25rae> lol, thanks [12:07] * suzb thinks we are having way to much fun with this function [12:07] <futureweasley> oh, and Rae25, Woot is TOTALLY legal here! [12:07] * blathnat is now the only person no to use this [12:07] <futureweasley> feel free to use it liberally [12:07] * danae24 agrees with suzb [12:07] <JaneMarple9> sofa [12:07] <rae25rae> lol [12:07] <rae25rae> that's adorable [12:07] <JaneMarple9> wait until the newbies find the smilies ! w00t2 [12:07] <SoonerGryffindor> not all emoticons work in here [12:07] <blathnat> lol now Jane confuses us non regulars more [12:08] <SoonerGryffindor> party15 [12:08] * suzb thinks it would be fun to do the whole convo like this [12:08] <Pleshette> Wow, impressivie Jane! [12:08] <futureweasley> sombrero [12:08] <harryfreak359> hehehe [12:08] <harryfreak359> w00t2 [12:08] <danae24> I only know one smily........ [12:08] <JaneMarple9>  [12:08] <danae24>  [12:08] *** bemused has joined #lounge [12:08] <rae25rae> lol [12:08] <rae25rae> Hi Bemused [12:08] <Pleshette> Hi bemused! [12:08] <futureweasley> hi bemused! [12:08] <fawkes28> i love severussnape [12:08] <JaneMarple9> Hi Bemused [12:08] <danae24> Hello Bemused! [12:08] <harryfreak359> hi bemused [12:08] <Aislinn> hey bemused [12:08] <Pleshette> Eek!! [12:08] <suzb> hi bemused [12:08] <SoonerGryffindor> hi bemused [12:08] <bemused> hello everyone! [12:08] <futureweasley> severussnape must die [12:08] <rae25rae> that's such a cool snape smiley [12:08] <harryfreak359> hahaha [12:09] <blathnat> hey bemused [12:09] <JaneMarple9> harrypotter [12:09] <harryfreak359> severussnape is good [12:09] <SoonerGryffindor> future, leave my boy alone [12:09] <rae25rae> must die [12:09] <Pleshette> Too bad there wasn't a Petunia one, eh future? [12:09] <futureweasley> harrypotter is a horcrux [12:09] <fawkes28> testing [12:09] <rae25rae> I think [12:09] <rae25rae> that snape is good [12:09] <danae24> how do you put those smilies??? [12:09] <Aislinn> harrypotter thinks severussnape must die [12:09] <suzb> :toomanyicons: [12:09] <JaneMarple9> 10/10 Fawkes smile [12:09] <danae24> Harry isnt a horcri.............. [12:09] <MrMcGonagall> I see you, fawkes. [12:09] <rae25rae> and Harry is not a horcrux [12:09] <rae25rae> horcri..lol [12:09] <futureweasley> lol, I think he is...but I'm kidding [12:09] <futureweasley> kind of [12:09] * suzb :this converstionis so random: [12:09] <danae24> Snape is evil........ [12:09] <Aislinn> there is no such thing as horcri [12:10] <danae24> I know...... but I love that word [12:10] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Aislinn [12:10] <rae25rae> to John Noe there is [12:10] * blathnat is confused with the icons so goes and eat cookies (want one?) [12:10] *** Megan2006 has joined #lounge [12:10] <futureweasley> who's John Noe [12:10] <SoonerGryffindor> so has anyone written a filk? [12:10] <rae25rae> Hi Megan2006 [12:10] <Aislinn> hi megan [12:10] <fawkes28> testing [12:10] <Megan2006> hi! [12:10] <Pleshette> Hi Megan [12:10] <harryfreak359> hi Megan [12:10] * danae24 joins blathnat at the cookie eating....... [12:10] <harryfreak359> see ya Fawkes [12:10] <fawkes28> sad [12:10] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [12:10] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [12:10] * suzb steals cookies [12:10] * futureweasley loves filk writing [12:10] <rae25rae> I think I want a cookie...brb [12:10] <futureweasley> I wrote one for the birthday event today [12:10] <blathnat> i tryed to but got all filked out [12:10] <JaneMarple9> severussnape is in between for me [12:11] <danae24> I'm not good at filk writing, but I do love singing them...... [12:11] <MrMcGonagall> fw is an amazing filkstress. [12:11] <fawkes28> i think i have the computer blues [12:11] <futureweasley> aww, thanks MrMcG [12:11] <harryfreak359> She is indeed, Mr M [12:11] <danae24> I'm a better avatar maker than a filker [12:11] <harryfreak359> awww, Fawkes [12:11] * futureweasley can't make an avi to save my life [12:11] <JaneMarple9> awww hug fawkes [12:11] <fawkes28> awww thanks [12:11] <Pleshette> um...I'm good at sock skating! [12:11] * rae25rae eats lemon cookie [12:11] * suzb is a bit useless [12:11] <harryfreak359> sock skating! [12:11] *** demilu has joined #lounge [12:11] * harryfreak359 loves sock skating [12:11] <rae25rae> Hi demilu [12:11] <bemused> Hoorah for sock skating! [12:11] <danae24> too risky bussiness [12:11] <harryfreak359> hi demilu [12:11] <JaneMarple9> :computer: can be silly! [12:12] <Pleshette> Hi demilu! [12:12] <fawkes28> pleshette, is on my team for sock hockey! [12:12] <harryfreak359> hmmmm [12:12] <harryfreak359> type [12:12] <MrMcGonagall> I'm still recovering from our last sock hockey game in the Great Hall. [12:12] <Pleshette> smile [12:12] <harryfreak359> yup it works lol [12:12] <danae24> (hug) [12:12] <danae24> I still cannot get the smilies to work......... [12:12] <fawkes28> team woo hoo won big time [12:12] <bemused> I thought Pleshette fancied sock dodge ball.... [12:12] * danae24 will not use smilies........ [12:12] <JaneMarple9> : typing: [12:12] <fawkes28> type a space first danae [12:12] <rae25rae> i'd love someone to teach me how to do smiles smile [12:12] <rae25rae> other than that one [12:12] <SoonerGryffindor> type [12:13] <danae24> hug [12:13] <Pleshette> Ah! We have to get that one organized bemused [12:13] <danae24> there we go!!! [12:13] <JaneMarple9> :typing: [12:13] <rae25rae> :-D [12:13] <harryfreak359> it's : type : [12:13] * blathnat goes of to filk [12:13] <suzb> im all confuzed [12:13] *** demilu has quit [Bye] [12:13] *** demilu has joined #lounge [12:13] <JaneMarple9> type [12:13] <rae25rae> no! that doesnt work..gosh darn it [12:13] <bemused> count me in, Pleshette smile [12:13] <danae24> :noe: [12:13] *** EmilyVizi has joined #lounge [12:13] <JaneMarple9> book [12:13] <danae24> that doesnt work...... [12:13] <SoonerGryffindor> harrypotter [12:13] <harryfreak359> Hey Emily [12:13] <fawkes28> severussnape [12:13] <rae25rae> Hi Emily [12:13] <Pleshette> Hi Emily! [12:13] <JaneMarple9> :chat: [12:13] <bemused> Hello Emily [12:13] <fawkes28> severussnape is good [12:13] <danae24> Hi emily! [12:14] <danae24> severussnape is a bad guy [12:14] <fawkes28> no no [12:14] <JaneMarple9> severussnape is....... [12:14] <rae25rae> brb... [12:14] <bemused> no he isn't... [12:14] <harryfreak359> noooo [12:14] <SoonerGryffindor> not evil [12:14] <EmilyVizi> hello everyone [12:14] * suzb agrees with danae [12:14] <Pleshette> There will be no severussnape pictures on our sock hockey jerseys [12:14] <rae25rae> 'Ghost' is on and it's really annoying me..gotta turn it off [12:14] * harryfreak359 closes eyes to Danae's comment [12:14] <danae24> severussnape need a good shampooing.......... [12:14] <bemused> just misunderstood??? wink [12:14] <fawkes28> severussnape is the good guy - i cant wait until the 7th book comes out [12:14] <suzb> lol [12:14] <danae24> hahahaha.......... [12:14] <harryfreak359> yeah fawkes [12:14] <EmilyVizi> snape is evil [12:14] *** rae25rae has quit [Bye] [12:14] <JaneMarple9> harrypotter is the good guy!! [12:15] <MrMcGonagall> All these pictures of Snape are freaking me out [12:15] <fawkes28> LOL [12:15] <futureweasley> me too! [12:15] *** potter-addict has joined #lounge [12:15] <Pleshette> hahahaha [12:15] <harryfreak359> hahaha, [12:15] *** rae25rae has joined #lounge [12:15] <bemused> what will I have to be bemused about after book 7? [12:15] <SoonerGryffindor> Okay guys, we will be getting started in a little under a minute [12:15] <harryfreak359> yay! [12:15] <JaneMarple9> severussnape severussnape severussnape severussnape severussnape [12:15] <EmilyVizi> yay! [12:15] <EmilyVizi> what chapters may i ask? [12:15] <danae24> haha [12:15] <futureweasley> ewwwww [12:15] <Pleshette> Ack!!! [12:15] <harryfreak359> hehe [12:15] <SoonerGryffindor> chapters 26-28 [12:15] * futureweasley is scared [12:15] <potter-addict> hey! [12:15] <fawkes28> w00t2 [12:15] *** demilu has quit [Bye] [12:15] * danae24 is creeped by multiple snapes [12:15] <rae25rae> GoF used to be my favorite book [12:15] * Pleshette hides behind future [12:15] <rae25rae> but not i'm not sure.. [12:16] <JaneMarple9> biggrin ok enough smilies [12:16] <SoonerGryffindor> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [12:16] <SoonerGryffindor> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [12:16] <SoonerGryffindor> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [12:16] <SoonerGryffindor> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [12:16] <SoonerGryffindor> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [12:16] <MrMcGonagall> Harry tries to tell Ron and Hermione about his Egg and Bath adventure. Hermione reminds them they've wrongly thought Snape was trying to kill Harry before. To the library, where they find nothing which helps Harry breath underwater. Harry falls asleep. Dobby wakes him up, minutes before the 2nd task. Dobby has the solution–Gillyweed. In the Lake, Harry takes Gabrielle and Ron to the surface and finishes next to last. [12:17] *** NCMcGonagall has joined #lounge [12:17] <MrMcGonagall> At Double Potions, the Anti-Trio and pugface Pansy [and her gang of girls] wait outside the dungeons. Pansy tosses Witch Weekly at Hermione. Rita’s revenge-a nasty article about Hermione dating both Krum and Harry. Snape accuses Harry of stealing from his personal stores and threatens him with Veritaserum. Karkaroff has something on his inner left forearm which is becoming clear. [12:17] <MrMcGonagall> In the first war, the MoM took extreme measures and authorized the use of violence to combat the DEs. Crouch sent Sirius to Azkaban without a trial. Snape’s fascination with the Dark Arts was well known at Hogwarts. He ran with a Slytherin gang–mostly future DEs. Sirius knew Bertha Jorkins at school. She wasn’t bright, but she had an excellent memory for gossip and a big mouth. [12:17] <MrMcGonagall> The Trio give a delighted Dobby his mismatched socks–much to Dobby’s watery delight (goodness, he’s a Leaky elf). They pick up extra food for Sirius. Winky’s butterbeer problem is now at six bottles of butterbeer per day–hiccup! She wants to go home. Crouch trusts Winky with his biggest secret–which she doesn’t spill. She’s drunk off her stool, but keeps her yap shut. [12:18] <MrMcGonagall> She tells Harry and Dobby off–slips off her stool onto the floor, snoring away in a drunken stupor. The house-elves cover her up. Hermione chides them for not helping Winky and holds up Dobby as a model. The elves shuffle them out the door. Harry sends Sirius food and notices a large eagle owl coming to the castle. [12:18] <MrMcGonagall> The next day, Hermione awaits the arrival of her own Daily Prophet. She gets vile hate mail instead. One letter had undiluted Bubotuber pus which burned her hands. At CMC, Hagrid has a Niffler lesson. The class use them to find Leprechaun gold. Ron’s does the best and he gets a prize. Hagrid tells Goyle there’s no use stealing the gold as it disappears in an hour. [12:18] <MrMcGonagall> Ron wants to know why Harry didn’t tell him about the gold–the gold he gave Harry for the Omnioculars–disappearing. Harry didn’t notice. Ron opines it must be nice to have so much you don’t notice any missing. Hermione wonders how Rita’s getting her information. Maybe she being bugged. Percy wants no more stupid questions about Crouch who is sending instructions by owl. [12:19] <MrMcGonagall> Harry meets Bagman and the other champions at the Quidditch pitch which is now a maze. Krum speaks to Harry about Hermione. Are they dating? Harry reassures him and they actually have some conversation. Suddenly, Crouch emerges from the forest, desperate to get to Dumbledore. He is wracked with guilt. Krum keeps an eye on Crouch while Harry goes for Dumbledore. [12:19] <MrMcGonagall> At the castle, Snape keeps Harry from Dumbledore. That delay costs them dearly. Krum was stunned, Crouch can’t be found. Dumbledore summons Hagrid. Moody is Johnny on the spot. Karkaroff comes along and accuses Dumbledore of duplicity. Hagrid threatens Karkaroff, but then takes Harry back to the castle–with a warning from Dumbledore not to send off any owls. [12:19] <MrMcGonagall> All caught up? Good, then let’s chat about Chapters 26-28 of Goblet of Fire! [12:19] <MrMcGonagall> Does it strike you as odd the trio can't find ANYthing to help someone who wants to breathe underwater in the vaunted Hogwarts’ library? [12:19] <fawkes28> woo hoo!!!!!!! [12:20] <futureweasley> if you're not caught up by now, you didn't read closely enough, evidently [12:20] <rae25rae> yes, a bit odd, i think [12:20] <futureweasley> lol [12:20] <JaneMarple9> w00t2 [12:20] <blathnat> yay dobby lol [12:20] <Aislinn> I thought it was very odd that Hermione couldn't find a spell to help [12:20] <Poet> Maybe wizards don't normally have the need to be under water [12:20] <EmilyVizi> dobby is the best [12:20] <danae24> Maybe they coudnt find anything because they have enought problems above the water than to deal with the underwater ones....... [12:20] <SoonerGryffindor> what, was the bubblehead charm a state secret or what? [12:20] <fawkes28> hermione was preoccupied with krum wink [12:20] <JaneMarple9> book [12:20] <rae25rae> Yeah? [12:20] <JaneMarple9> dobby is great yes [12:20] <suzb> does the libary have a good index? [12:20] <danae24> and wizards swim for fun, not for anything else... [12:20] <Poet> What's there to do usualy underwater anyways - talk to merepeople? Not many people can do that. [12:20] <bemused> Bit hard to find one specific thing in a whole library, maybe - specially if pressed for time [12:20] <rae25rae> that's what i was wondering.. Bubblehead charm seems sort or elementary [12:20] <harryfreak359> I think that it probably isn't common to want to breathe underwater. And probably they were looking for the wrong sort of thing [12:20] <Pleshette> Maybe BCJ/Moody checked out all the underwater breathing books [12:20] <potter-addict> But I'm sure the bubble head charm would be in many of the books, and why doesn't herminone know of it already? [12:21] <futureweasley> I can't believe that books have failed Hermione for the first time [12:21] <NCMcGonagall> Moody had given Neville a book with the answer so he could help Harry....but surely there was more than one. [12:21] <Pleshette> that way they'd have to rely on Dobby [12:21] <danae24> I dont think it's a big secret the bubble head charm, but it would have been hard for Harry to learn it in less than one day [12:21] <futureweasley> they aren't thinking about charms...they are thinking too broad... [12:21] <JaneMarple9> It is strange...first time books has let Hermione down! [12:21] <harryfreak359> Yes, I agree Future [12:21] <Poet> I agree futureweasley [12:21] <potter-addict> yeah [12:21] <suzb> I thought it was a sort of 6th year spell, the bubblehead charm, which is why none of his friends were aware of it [12:21] <danae24> well, not really Jane........... they just didn know where to look...... just like in SS [12:21] <JaneMarple9> Yes, if Harry had asked Neville in the first place [12:22] <harryfreak359> they weren't looking for the right sort of thing. They were probably looking for something much more complex and difficult [12:22] <bemused> mm - they weren't asking the right question [12:22] <SoonerGryffindor> makes me wonder if there was anything else [12:22] <JaneMarple9> because Neville had crucial information without knowing it [12:22] <rae25rae> must've been [12:22] <MrMcGonagall> I think you're right, suzb [12:22] <bemused> like what, Sooner? [12:22] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea [12:22] <potter-addict> There probably were many other things. Like which spell did Krum use, he half transfigured himself? [12:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I just wonder [12:22] <MrMcGonagall> Harry should have asked all of his Gryffindor friends, though. [12:23] <Aislinn> it was a 6th year spell, but Hermione was able to make Polyjuice years before they were taught, and made those coins for the DA [12:23] <futureweasley> Moody was counting on it, actually [12:23] <bemused> But that would have meant telling everyone he didn't know [12:23] <Aislinn> she should have been able to find something [12:23] <NCMcGonagall> But that would have been cheating in Harry's mine [12:23] <suzb> but the potion was mentioned in a class [12:23] <NCMcGonagall> mind [12:23] <harryfreak359> harry doesn't seem the kind to actually ask people for help, so that's why he probably didn't [12:23] <Poet> i think he didn't ask anyone else because he was worried about getting in trouble [12:23] <futureweasley> that's why Moody gave Neville the book to begin with [12:23] <fawkes28> exactly, hf [12:23] <JaneMarple9> Then again, not many people would take much notice of Neville's rambling [12:23] <rae25rae> harry = proud? [12:23] <fawkes28> harry is stubborn sometimes [12:23] <harryfreak359> yes he is [12:23] <rae25rae> stubborn, yes [12:23] <Pleshette> Perhaps that book came from the library and was the only one [12:24] <Aislinn> yes, and I think trust is an issue for him, rae [12:24] <bemused> But he wouldn't have asked Neville unless he suspected the answer was a plant [12:24] <JaneMarple9> Harry = stubborn and a teenager biggrin [12:24] <NCMcGonagall> he's also been raised not to ask questions [12:24] <danae24> maybe if Moody had gave Harry the book to deliver it to Neville, he would have asked Neville for help [12:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that with the background Harry has had with the Dursleys, he has not learned to trust [12:24] <MrMcGonagall> What do you suppose would have happened had Harry not had the Gillyweed solution? How much does the magically binding contract require of the contestant? Would Harry have had to try something in the Lake and fail to elude the consequences of the magically binding contract? Why or why not? [12:24] <Poet> Hermione always finds the answer, so I'm sure Harry was hoping the same this time [12:24] <Aislinn> yes, NCMcG [12:24] <rae25rae> i have always wondered that.. [12:24] <Aislinn> that was really drummed into him [12:24] <JaneMarple9> yes Poet [12:24] <rae25rae> someone asked me that question yesterday, Mr M [12:24] <bemused> I think he'd have had to try something [12:24] <Pleshette> I think so too bemused [12:24] *** crazytibby has joined #lounge [12:24] <JaneMarple9> I think he'd just had drowned, and been rescued myself [12:25] <harryfreak359> I think that he would have, bemused...even just jumping into the lake [12:25] <danae24> He would just had 0 on the task......... because he wasnt trying to get completely out of the competition.... [12:25] <potter-addict> I think he would have jumped in gone under, and come back up cause he wouldn't been able to hold his breath [12:25] *** kaelgirl has joined #lounge [12:25] <suzb> i guess he would have just swam around a bit [12:25] <NCMcGonagall> Fleur made a not-so-valiant attempt [12:25] <rae25rae> he wouldn't go drown himself.. [12:25] <rae25rae> so yes, he would just get 0 pts [12:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Ron's solution was pretty funny [12:25] <suzb> not much else he could do in that case [12:25] <harryfreak359> hi kaelgirl [12:25] <Pleshette> I agree rae [12:25] <crazytibby> Hi all [12:25] <rae25rae> hi [12:25] <JaneMarple9> he really wanted to make Hogwarts proud of them [12:25] <bemused> agree, Sooner - very Ron! [12:25] <danae24> Hi tibby! [12:25] <harryfreak359> What was Ron's solution I don't remember? [12:25] <Poet> He could have stuck his head in the lake and yelled "Accio friend!" [12:25] <rae25rae> lol [12:25] <MrMcGonagall> Honestly, I think he would have just gotten a bit zero on points. [12:25] <potter-addict> lmao! [12:25] <suzb> lol, pooet [12:26] <crazytibby> That would have been smart [12:26] <harryfreak359> ooooh [12:26] *** huebbe has joined #lounge [12:26] <danae24> to accio an aqua lung [12:26] <kaelgirl> whats the question? [12:26] <futureweasley> well, I don't think he would have received 0 points...he made an effort of some kind [12:26] <harryfreak359> nevermind i remember! lol [12:26] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [12:26] <SoonerGryffindor> stick your head in a shout for what they took [12:26] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [12:26] <Aislinn> good point, NC McG - Fleur basically failed at it, so Harry would have been similar [12:26] <Pleshette> I wonder if it would've worked? [12:26] <rae25rae> what did fleur use, again? [12:26] <danae24> But fleur did mad a bubble head charm [12:26] <rae25rae> Bubblehead [12:26] <harryfreak359> yeah, you'd think after reading GoF 24 times I'd remember this stuff. . . [12:26] <potter-addict> lol [12:26] <fawkes28> lol [12:26] <rae25rae> lol [12:26] <JaneMarple9> a aqua lung would be too Muggle ish [12:26] <danae24> and did try to retrieve her hostage [12:27] <harryfreak359> yeah it would have Jane, but it could have worked... [12:27] <harryfreak359> no one else would have thought of it for sure lol [12:27] <EmilyVizi> yeah or a scuba kit or something [12:27] <crazytibby> What if he just plopped in the water and summoned him? [12:27] <danae24> he should have asked Hagrid for a magical creature that could swim [12:27] <suzb> the film people would have appreciaded and aqua lung, much easier for them [12:27] <rae25rae> yes [12:27] <rae25rae> lol [12:27] <JaneMarple9> would Harry know how to use it to his advantage though? [12:27] <rae25rae> that task was brilliantly done in the film [12:27] <rae25rae> but anyway.. [12:27] <potter-addict> But he didn't know what he was looking for, he coulnd't have summoned him [12:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree rae [12:27] <JaneMarple9> Can't imagine Dudley doing much diving [12:28] <crazytibby> Yeah it was. I loved the director [12:28] <SoonerGryffindor> He did know right beforfe the task [12:28] <rae25rae> haha, i cant either [12:28] <EmilyVizi> accio hostage lol [12:28] <Poet> Harry wouldn't have gotten to see the underwater city if he'd just accio'd Ron [12:28] <rae25rae> true [12:28] <harryfreak359> Dobby told him what was taken [12:28] <MrMcGonagall> What do you think of Harry's desire to make sure all the captives were brought to the surface–not just his? What does this action tell us about Harry? [12:28] <rae25rae> Did he? i dont remember that [12:28] <JaneMarple9> or how about a submarine? smile [12:28] <rae25rae> lol [12:28] <JaneMarple9> a little too large? [12:28] <EmilyVizi> he's harry. he wants to be the hero [12:28] <SoonerGryffindor> It makes me love him even more [12:28] <MrMcGonagall> Hehe. His Weezy. [12:28] <harryfreak359> Dobby told him they took his "Wheezey" lol [12:28] <Poet> Harry took the egg's quotes seriously [12:28] <rae25rae> Harry is a good person..a hero [12:28] <danae24> That Harry does suffer the Hero complex [12:28] <suzb> harrys thehero [12:28] <fawkes28> He has a hero complex wink [12:28] <rae25rae> and kind of silly [12:28] <bemused> Shows how much he cares [12:28] <rae25rae> he should've known they wouldnt really have died [12:28] <harryfreak359> That's Harry of course and his saving-people thing [12:28] <kaelgirl> he cares for everyone, even people he doesn't know [12:29] <NCMcGonagall> i don't think he wants to be a hero - he just can't bear to see people in danger [12:29] <danae24> And shows that he cares for others.... [12:29] <potter-addict> Harry actually took the egg seriously. [12:29] <Aislinn> It was such a Harry thing to do [12:29] <fawkes28> I think this shows us that Harry is one of the most moral characters in the series [12:29] <kaelgirl> he'll save someone else's life before he thinks of himself [12:29] <EmilyVizi> he took it to literally [12:29] <Poet> Harry needs to remember that sometimes the words of the 'prophecy' don't have to mean what he thinks wink [12:29] <crazytibby> Lol it was hrrayoic [12:29] <harryfreak359> yes he does. smile [12:29] <JaneMarple9> Harry is the good guy, he doesn't want anyone to be hurt...except Voldie [12:29] <danae24> He takes everything very seriously......... [12:29] <futureweasley> I think that Harry and the Jeffersons would be totally cute...Harry meets Weezy from the Jeffersons! [12:29] <crazytibby> lol [12:29] <SoonerGryffindor> it shows that in his heart, he has everyone's best interest at heart [12:29] <danae24> he is thick from time to time....... [12:29] <huebbe> he's selfless [12:29] <rae25rae> yes, he is [12:30] <rae25rae> thick [12:30] <rae25rae> i mean [12:30] <EmilyVizi> harry has a heart [12:30] <futureweasley> Harry is selfless, I agree Huebbe [12:30] <fawkes28> he is the most selfless character [12:30] <MrMcGonagall> LOL, fw [12:30] <bemused> yes - but when you read it first time, did anyone think he was taking it too seriously? [12:30] <harryfreak359> yes indeed, but sometimes he allows it to take over more than he should [12:30] <rae25rae> I did [12:30] <huebbe> yes [12:30] <JaneMarple9> he probably wasn't thinking clearly in the lake [12:30] <kaelgirl> I did [12:30] <crazytibby> The forst time i was in 2nd grade lol [12:30] <potter-addict> Yeah [12:30] <harryfreak359> I did yeah [12:30] <Poet> I like the idea that Harry is more thoughtful of others being in troubling situations, due to having grown up with the Dursleys [12:30] <rae25rae> lol [12:30] <SoonerGryffindor> actually bemused, I took it seriously the first time I read it [12:30] <huebbe> but then I rethought after I saw the movie [12:30] <kaelgirl> But I probably would've taken it seriously too. [12:30] <NCMcGonagall> I thought he was doing the right thing [12:30] <bemused> I didn't - it all seemed so real [12:30] <Aislinn> I could see why he would feel the way he did, though bemused [12:30] <danae24> And we can see that he isnt really hoping to win the tournament, but rather get out from it alive [12:30] <kaelgirl> I wouldn't risk it [12:30] <Poet> I too took the egg seriously [12:31] <Aislinn> Look at what he had to face in the first task - a dragon! [12:31] <MrMcGonagall> I took it rather seriously. But then I'm a Gryffindor at heart, too. [12:31] <crazytibby> I probably would have like exploded [12:31] <crazytibby> I probably would have like exploded [12:31] <kaelgirl> exactly, Aislinn [12:31] <Aislinn> He had no way of knowing it the second task would be as threatening to Ron [12:31] <fawkes28> he didn't want anything to happen to his friends - it was a stressful sitation [12:31] <bemused> It's different once you know, but I thought he was doing the right thing [12:31] <crazytibby> Yeah [12:31] <danae24> if he had the desire to win, he wouldnt have waited for the others to appear [12:31] <rae25rae> I was afraid but after i'd read that part of the book. I sorta thought, why would the triwizard people have otehrs die?? [12:31] <JaneMarple9> yes Aislinn [12:31] <Poet> Harry expects the tournament to be dangerous - it is for him, so he expects it is for the hostages as welll [12:31] <JaneMarple9> I would have took the egg seriously too [12:31] *** suzb has quit [Bye] [12:31] <NCMcGonagall> he had a very close connection to each of the hostages except Fleur's sister [12:31] <JaneMarple9> well said Poet, agreed [12:32] <crazytibby> I would be very mad if peeps messed with my friends [12:32] <huebbe> It wasn't really fair that they took both his best friends and his love interest and a little girl....he had no choices in his mind [12:32] <EmilyVizi> yeah [12:32] <rae25rae> yeah [12:32] <potter-addict> But, the thing is 3 of the hostages were HIS friends. The other champions, onlt really had one friend down there. [12:32] <JaneMarple9> he had a lot of choice....who to save [12:32] <kaelgirl> thats true huebbe [12:32] <huebbe> if it had been Draco for instance he would have left him! [12:32] <potter-addict> lol [12:32] <NCMcGonagall> good point!! Jane [12:32] <crazytibby> Yeah, its like ok i choose you to die [12:32] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [12:32] <bemused> I doubt it, huebbe [12:32] <rae25rae> makes you think how much Cedric cared about Cho. sad..but this is sorta off topic [12:32] <EmilyVizi> too many choices for one teenager [12:32] <kaelgirl> lol crazytibby [12:33] <harryfreak359> I dunno if he would have huebbe, I don't think so really [12:33] <huebbe> yes! too many choices [12:33] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, it's true that three of the four hostages had connections to Harry. [12:33] <JaneMarple9> can just imagine poor Draco in the lake and Harry seeing him [12:33] <rae25rae> would Harry really let draco die, you think? [12:33] <danae24> brb......... I have run an errand [12:33] <JaneMarple9>  [12:33] <MrMcGonagall> Cedric is thought to be a very caring person, why didn’t he stay to ensure all the hostages were returned to the surface? [12:33] <huebbe> probably not, he [12:33] <huebbe> s too moral [12:33] <rae25rae> Cedric is more sensible [12:33] <kaelgirl> he was smart. Thats why [12:33] <NCMcGonagall> no Harry would save whoever was ther [12:33] <crazytibby> off topic, but how did dumbledore know about these relationships? [12:33] <NCMcGonagall> there [12:33] <SoonerGryffindor> Cedric must have realized [12:33] <huebbe> DD knows all [12:33] <rae25rae> Cedric was quite clever [12:33] <harryfreak359> Cedric probably logically knew that they were going to be alright. [12:33] <Aislinn> I think he was looking at it as purely a competition [12:33] <JaneMarple9> Cedric is a year older than Harry [12:33] <huebbe> yes aillinn [12:33] <kaelgirl> He was probably more concerned about winning, and he might've had a lot of faith in the others [12:33] <JaneMarple9> he is more intelligent [12:33] <EmilyVizi> too many choices for one teenager [12:34] <bemused> He's older too [12:34] <fawkes28> i think cedric would have if he thought about it but he knew that the hostages would be fine [12:34] <crazytibby> After all, he entered by choice [12:34] <huebbe> and harry is young [12:34] <Aislinn> he is NOT more intelligent [12:34] <harryfreak359> Yes I agree Fawkes [12:34] <futureweasley> Cedric is not as "daft" as Harry...in the sense that he is more wize to the ways of the world. He didn't take the clue seriously [12:34] <crazytibby> and harry didnt [12:34] <huebbe> more emotional than logical [12:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I think if Cedric had taken it seriously he would hve done the same as Harry [12:34] *** EmilyVizi has quit [Bye] [12:34] <JaneMarple9> yes everyone entered by choice...harry was forced into it [12:34] <MrMcGonagall> I think Hufflepuffs are very task-oriented. [12:34] <potter-addict> yeah [12:34] <Aislinn> it didn't have to do with intelligence, it had to do with priorities [12:34] <bemused> also he wouldn't have the same perception of danger because LV isn't out to get him [12:34] <SoonerGryffindor> right [12:34] <kaelgirl> I agree MrM [12:34] <harryfreak359> yes I think he would have Sooner, [12:34] <futureweasley> and I really don't think that Cedric was more concerned about winning [12:34] <JaneMarple9> Cedric was a thinker [12:34] <Poet> Cedric has already been through his OWL exams. He's used to being put through different types of testing - it was more like a test to him I think. I think he realized it wasn't a real danger [12:34] <crazytibby> good point bemused [12:34] <kaelgirl> they do what needs to get done, and thats it [12:34] <fawkes28> I think Cedric knew it was just a "game" while Harry genuinely thought his friends may die [12:35] <rae25rae> if Cedric had also thought the same as Harry, he would've tried to get all of the hostages [12:35] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, I agree [12:35] <MrMcGonagall> Cedric has a noble heart, too, but he was given a mission and he accomplished it. [12:35] <rae25rae> yep [12:35] <JaneMarple9> he just enjoyed participating, wasn't bothered if he won or lost [12:35] <huebbe> insticutally 14 year olds go with what they feel, not what they know [12:35] <SoonerGryffindor> argreed Rae [12:35] <crazytibby> Good man, cedric [12:35] <futureweasley> right MrMcG...that's awesome [12:35] <Aislinn> yes rae - I agree that he would have worked just as hard to save his friends if he thought it was real [12:35] *** blathnat has quit [Bye] [12:35] <huebbe> that's why he is so gut reaction [12:35] <rae25rae> Harry's gut reaction will kill Voldy..it helps him [12:35] <crazytibby> great poinht [12:35] <huebbe> yes [12:36] <MrMcGonagall> Besides, he didn't really need to worry, since Harry was staying with the hostages. I don't think it was motivated by a "sucka" mentality. [12:36] *** stewiegryf has joined #lounge [12:36] <JaneMarple9> Yep, Ced was the "Real Hogwarts Champion" [12:36] <huebbe> I think it's his greatest gift [12:36] <SoonerGryffindor> hey stewie [12:36] <stewiegryf> hey! [12:36] <rae25rae> nahh, Harry was the real one. Being a champion means being selfless and brave [12:36] <crazytibby> HIs greatest gift is to love remember? Or is it.... [12:36] <huebbe> true...that too -------------------- |
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[12:36] <MrMcGonagall> Had Krum stayed to ensure the freedom of all the hostages, what would have been Karkaroff’s reaction?
[12:36] <harryfreak359> hi Stewie [12:36] <huebbe> gloating [12:37] <bemused> He'd have been livid! [12:37] <crazytibby> Yeah [12:37] <rae25rae> Karkaroff would've gotten so pissed off [12:37] <SoonerGryffindor> He would have blown a gasket [12:37] <futureweasley> Karkaroff would have thought him a fool [12:37] <fawkes28> he would have been so angry [12:37] <stewiegryf> Karkaroff would have been furious [12:37] <harryfreak359> I don't think that he'd had been too pleased [12:37] <potter-addict> Yes. [12:37] <Aislinn> I don't think it would have occurred to Krum to stay [12:37] <Poet> He would have gotten a hand slap across the back of his head [12:37] <crazytibby> Moral Fiber my foot [12:37] <kaelgirl> probably really really mad [12:37] <rae25rae> he would've drowned Krum [12:37] <rae25rae> he is just an evil person [12:37] <Poet> aww [12:37] <fawkes28> again Krum was older and knew it was only a game [12:37] <potter-addict> KRum would have been in trouble! [12:37] <crazytibby> I dont like him. [12:37] <futureweasley> maybe Karkaroff would have stuck his head in the lake and yelled at Krum for being the hero [12:37] <JaneMarple9> Krum just wanted to rescue Hermione and go [12:37] <huebbe> Karkaroff only wanted the title for himself....really [12:37] <crazytibby> Krun knew what was going on [12:38] <kaelgirl> Karkaroff is all about winning. He doesn't care about any qualities that make a person good [12:38] <SoonerGryffindor> actually he would have turned the situation around and favorted him with the points [12:38] <Poet> Krum also didn't have the emotional connection to the other hostages - like Harry did [12:38] <JaneMarple9> he didn't care about helping the other hostages or the other competitors [12:38] <fawkes28> Krum just cared about winning - he is a selfish git [12:38] <harryfreak359> yes, Kaelgirl, I agree [12:38] <huebbe> I agree poet [12:38] <MrMcGonagall> I think Karkaroff would have been all about awardin points for "moral fiber" in Krum's case. [12:38] <crazytibby> well he did care about hermione [12:38] <rae25rae> yeah Karkaroff would've boasted abot moral fber [12:38] <JaneMarple9> yep Poet, Krum was like Karkaoff [12:38] *** danae24 has quit [Bye] [12:38] <stewiegryf> I think so too Sooner. [12:38] <NCMcGonagall> I don't agree [12:38] <crazytibby> I have to go soon.... Going to see Epic Movie with my friends! [12:38] <rae25rae> haha [12:39] <JaneMarple9> yes Krum cared about Hermione...but more about winning [12:39] <rae25rae> that should be good [12:39] <futureweasley> Karkaroff was into winning, but not Krum. Krum was not into that...he already had glory through Quidditch [12:39] <crazytibby> I agree [12:39] <crazytibby> Welcome sooner [12:39] <futureweasley> I didn't really get that from Viktor, though [12:39] <harryfreak359> Yes I agree Future [12:39] <huebbe> Krum didn't care, I think he did it because he was forced to by K [12:39] <MrMcGonagall> Krum was hardly in any position to be sticking around to rescue anyone [12:39] <NCMcGonagall> otherwse he wouldn't have chosen Hermione as the girl he liked rather than those who gathered around him all the time [12:40] <crazytibby> He is a difficult character..... Think he will reappear? [12:40] <huebbe> his glory was quiditch [12:40] <NCMcGonagall> Jo said he owuld [12:40] <NCMcGonagall> would [12:40] <JaneMarple9> he is supposed to reappear [12:40] <JaneMarple9> mores the pity biggrin [12:40] <kaelgirl> I hope Krum reappears [12:40] *** Megan2006 has quit [Bye] [12:40] <MrMcGonagall> Fleur has had miserable luck during the course of the Tournament. She didn’t win the 1st task (didn’t even come in 2nd), she didn’t even finish the 2nd task. What are your thoughts as to Fleur as a champion? [12:40] <crazytibby> Good I want to see what else is going on in his head. [12:40] <huebbe> i sort of liked him all brawn and not alot of brains [12:40] <JaneMarple9> unless...Krum is the Horcrux? biggrin [12:40] <rae25rae> eh..the way krum was portrayed in the film makes him just boring, so i dont really want him to reappear [12:41] <NCMcGonagall> Grrrr [12:41] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [12:41] <futureweasley> it's because Fleur is a girl...I actually resented that a bit [12:41] <kaelgirl> I think that she just couldn't handle it [12:41] <bemused> I'd have liked to see Fleur do a bit better [12:41] <huebbe> not really good [12:41] <SoonerGryffindor> Fleur got a bum rap in the first task [12:41] <fawkes28> in GoF I did see her as the weakest champion [12:41] <kaelgirl> She wasn't expecting anything that hard. [12:41] <JaneMarple9> Fleur is just there to make up the numbers for me [12:41] <crazytibby> I think that the Beauxbatons school is a little more pampered then the others [12:41] <huebbe> but doesn't Jo write female characters as being brighter than the male? [12:41] <Aislinn> I think that we need to remember that it is not that she lost - she was chosen above tons of other students from her school [12:41] <crazytibby> gp [12:41] <rae25rae> she is weak..I guess it was just that French female stereotype. the kind of hoity-toity uppity sort of girl [12:41] <kaelgirl> this was Jo's chance to write the stereotypical girl [12:41] <Aislinn> these were the 3 or 4 best students out of the 3 schools [12:41] <harryfreak359> I felt sorry for Fleur, but I do not think the less of her. [12:42] <MrMcGonagall> I thought Fleur was underrated in the first task. [12:42] <fawkes28> It is very difficult for boys and girls at this age to compete physically with each other [12:42] <NCMcGonagall> The goblet chose her so she had to be the best [12:42] <futureweasley> me too MrMcG [12:42] <crazytibby> But she does get the role as a weasley [12:42] <huebbe> yes Kaelgirl I agree [12:42] <kaelgirl> thats really sad if she is the best [12:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Fleur is a great example of not judging a book by the cover [12:42] <JaneMarple9> yes Kael, she does seem like the typical girl [12:42] <futureweasley> remember that Fleur is your typical "Bond Girl" [12:42] <bemused> She may stil have her chance to shine... [12:42] <huebbe> so her school didn't have much to choose from [12:42] <futureweasley> beauty and brains [12:42] <Pleshette> I agree Sooner [12:42] <MrMcGonagall> I think so, too, Sooner [12:42] <SoonerGryffindor> everyone thought that she had no inner moral fiber and it turns out that she does [12:42] <JaneMarple9> that makes all the boys fall in love with her [12:42] <huebbe> vila [12:42] <Aislinn> she did well in the first task, and I think her score might have been higher if it hadn't been for Karkaroff [12:42] <huebbe> opps spelling [12:43] <huebbe> veela [12:43] <crazytibby> She does have a lot more to her than I origanly thought [12:43] *** ltbrave23 has joined #lounge [12:43] <JaneMarple9> brains, Fleur? We didn't see much brain work in Fleur [12:43] <MrMcGonagall> I think you're right, Aislinn [12:43] <futureweasley> I don't think she "makes" the boys fall in love with her...I do think that's part of the downside of being part Veela [12:43] <potter-addict> Yes, but there were boys at bauxbatons, were there not? [12:43] <rae25rae> i just dont think that she'll have a huge part..if all of these characters are to reappear, book 7 is gonna be 59574395834 pages long [12:43] <rae25rae> Beaxbatons is a girls school..no? [12:43] <futureweasley> she knows how to use it [12:43] <huebbe> I didn't see any [12:43] <Aislinn> that would be fine, rae! [12:43] <SoonerGryffindor> no, just for the movie [12:43] <Aislinn> the longer the better [12:43] <NCMcGonagall> She has to be at the wedding [12:43] <Poet> Yes, plenty of boys at the school [12:43] <rae25rae> oh, just for the movie? [12:43] <rae25rae> ah, stupid movie [12:43] <potter-addict> yes [12:43] <crazytibby> Yup [12:43] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, there were boys at the yule ball [12:43] <JaneMarple9> she participated in the tournament but wasn't shown for her brains [12:44] <rae25rae> no wonder it was my least favorite [12:44] <MrMcGonagall> Karkaroff was out to take down all of the competition if he could. [12:44] <huebbe> from Beauxbaton [12:44] <huebbe> ? [12:44] <crazytibby> POA was my least favorite [12:44] <Aislinn> exactly Mr M [12:44] <kaelgirl> there were boys in the book [12:44] <JaneMarple9> oh yes, she'll be at the wedding...or else Molly won't be happy! [12:44] <MrMcGonagall> Would you have awarded Harry the extra points? [12:44] <crazytibby> Karakaroof was menatl [12:44] <rae25rae> PoA was my favorite tibby...but anyway [12:44] <Aislinn> I would have [12:44] <bemused> Yes, Mr M [12:44] <rae25rae> no, i dont think i would've awarded Harry the points [12:44] <kaelgirl> I would [12:44] <rae25rae> but i'm just mean [12:44] <JaneMarple9> I would have yes [12:44] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [12:44] <huebbe> no [12:44] <Ravendor> yes [12:44] <SoonerGryffindor> but I have to admit that I am parital to Harry [12:44] <crazytibby> lol rae [12:44] <futureweasley> yes, I think that moral fiber is very important [12:44] <Aislinn> I think they were judging them in an all-around way [12:44] <kaelgirl> but if I were from another school...no. [12:44] <fawkes28> yes i would have [12:44] <huebbe> i thought it was generous [12:45] <Pleshette> Absolutely [12:45] <rae25rae> the tournament is about brains as well [12:45] <Aislinn> and his valor should be given credit [12:45] <rae25rae> i kinda thot it was really unfair when i read the book [12:45] <Poet> No I wouldn't have, but I'm very Crouchish. [12:45] <JaneMarple9> Harry was very noble [12:45] <crazytibby> I would have given him a 7 [12:45] <stewiegryf> Most likely I would have. [12:45] <futureweasley> Right, Aislinn [12:45] <kaelgirl> I tend to sway with the people on my side, just like Karkaroff [12:45] <crazytibby> but its not out of ten sooooo [12:45] <JaneMarple9> and rescued more hostages than he needed too [12:45] <huebbe> would they have given it to the other campions [12:45] <MrMcGonagall> I would definitely have given him points for moral fiber. [12:45] <rae25rae> i was sorta like "OF COURSE DUMBLEDORE WILL GIVE HARRY MORE POINTS!" favoritism, i thot it was [12:45] <SoonerGryffindor> now that I think about it, I would have given the points to any of them had they done that [12:45] <MrMcGonagall> He's very heroic. [12:45] <JaneMarple9> so I'd give Harry full points! [12:45] <crazytibby> Lol i wouldnt be allowed to be a judge [12:46] <kaelgirl> If I were indifferent to any champion, I'd give it to him. [12:46] <potter-addict> What was with completely leaving Bagman out of the movie? I just had to ask... [12:46] <JaneMarple9> biggrin nor me [12:46] <rae25rae> I was just rooting for Cedric...so i guess that's why i thot the "Moral fiber" points were unfair [12:46] <rae25rae> they didnt have time for Bagman [12:46] <Pleshette> Harry put aside his own desire to win and instead put the lives of the others first [12:46] <bemused> It was the only fair way - he helped Krum, for instance, so Krum's performance couldn't be judged without him [12:46] <kaelgirl> They didn't have time for anything [12:46] <crazytibby> And dobby! I like dibby [12:46] <MrMcGonagall> What did you think of Ron changing his story as to his involvement in the Second Task? Why did he do it? [12:46] <huebbe> was it me or was the movie choppy? [12:46] <rae25rae> and Winky..but i didn't really like Winky too much, so yeah [12:46] <rae25rae> lol, to get Fleur to like him [12:46] <kaelgirl> He wanted the limelight [12:46] <Pleshette> Hilarious [12:46] <crazytibby> Fame [12:46] <bemused> 'cos Ron craves attention [12:46] <JaneMarple9> because he wanted some limelight [12:47] <JaneMarple9> he wanted fame [12:47] <rae25rae> he is jealous [12:47] <rae25rae> of harry [12:47] <Poet> It was a cool experience being under the lake. I'm sure Ron got a little carried away. [12:47] <stewiegryf> He wanted to stop being known as "Harry's friend." [12:47] <kaelgirl> like he mentioned earlier in the book, he wanted to be known as someone other than "Harry's Friend" [12:47] <JaneMarple9> at last he'd finally achieved something [12:47] <potter-addict> yes Ron is jealous of Harry [12:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I love the fact that Hermione got angry when he was bragging to Padma [12:47] <fawkes28> i think it gave Ron more confidence, which is what he needs [12:47] <Pleshette> And I love Hermione's response of "What were you going to do snore at them? [12:47] <JaneMarple9> and he's still a little jealous of Harry [12:47] <bemused> I loved Hermione's comment about snoring! [12:47] <Aislinn> I think that he got carried away with the attention too Poet [12:47] <potter-addict> lol yeah [12:47] <JaneMarple9> and they'd only just made friends again [12:47] <huebbe> I just love the tention between Ron and Hermonie period!! [12:47] <Aislinn> yes, bemused - that was really funny [12:47] <JaneMarple9> Yes Ron was showing off [12:47] <crazytibby> I wish theyd get together [12:47] <kaelgirl> me too huebbe [12:48] <JaneMarple9> "what were you going to do...snore at them?" book biggrin [12:48] <potter-addict> They will, they have to.. If J.K. doesn't get R&H together I wil be mad. =( [12:48] <crazytibby> lol [12:48] <huebbe> oh I think she will [12:48] <SoonerGryffindor> Poor Ron, this was his first time in the limelight [12:48] <crazytibby> Hunt her down and demand and explantion [12:48] <MrMcGonagall> Ron doesn't get a lot of attention, so this was nice for him. He just got carried away. [12:48] <kaelgirl> Jo will definitely hook them up [12:48] <huebbe> she has been leading up to it forever [12:48] <rae25rae> yes, she has to [12:48] <JaneMarple9> I am sure Ron and Hermione will be together eventually [12:48] <potter-addict> yeah [12:48] <JaneMarple9> and Ginny and Harry [12:49] <NCMcGonagall> As far as shse's concerned they've always been together [12:49] <potter-addict> I dunno about that though [12:49] <crazytibby> I know its like ginyy and harry i actually jumped up when i read it in the 6th book [12:49] <JaneMarple9> Luna and Neville sounds good too [12:49] <SoonerGryffindor> hem, hem [12:49] <huebbe> harry and ginny are a bit more complicated [12:49] <NCMcGonagall> Jo shot that one down, Jane [12:49] <potter-addict> If Ginny and Harry get toghet... Ginny is as good as dead. [12:49] <kaelgirl> I think that this was Ron's opportunity to be famous, and he wanted to get everyone's attention and not bore anyone [12:49] <JaneMarple9> poster_oops [12:49] * SoonerGryffindor thinks this conversation has gotten really off-topic [12:49] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [12:49] <bemused> it becomes a bit unrealistic if everyone pairs off [12:49] <MrMcGonagall> What did you think of Rita’s efforts at slamming Hermione through the article? [12:49] <crazytibby> So kill voldy first then get together [12:49] <rae25rae> yes, it will [12:50] <huebbe> poor Ron [12:50] <rae25rae> be unrealistic, if everyone hooks up [12:50] <potter-addict> yeah [12:50] * fawkes28 someone should whack Rita [12:50] <futureweasley> I loved it...proved that journalists have corrupt morals (as a whole) [12:50] <bemused> testing... [12:50] *** SevenofNine has joined #lounge [12:50] <futureweasley>  [12:50] <Pleshette> Predictable for Rita [12:50] <NCMcGonagall> She certainly knows how to push buttons [12:50] <futureweasley> I see you bemused [12:50] <rae25rae> annnyyywayy, what were we talking about before hookups? [12:50] <fawkes28> hi seven [12:50] * harryfreak359 agrees with Fawkes, and searches for her shaolin staff [12:50] *** bemused has quit [Bye] [12:50] <kaelgirl> I think that Rita is an amazing character. One of my favorites, because she potrays what reporters do [12:50] <futureweasley> hi 7of9 [12:50] <harryfreak359> hi seven [12:50] <crazytibby> Rita was so well played in the movie [12:50] <fawkes28> smile [12:50] <JaneMarple9> Rita was being the worst type of reporter.... [12:50] <SevenofNine> Greetings [12:50] *** stewiegryf left #lounge [] [12:50] <Pleshette> Hi seven [12:50] <JaneMarple9> and loving it! [12:50] <potter-addict> I hate Rita. I'm Happy Hermione locked her up in a jar. :  [12:50] <rae25rae> yes, sucks that she wont be in movie 5 [12:50] <crazytibby> Hi seven [12:50] <JaneMarple9> hi 7of9 [12:50] *** bemused has joined #lounge [12:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I actually love Rita's character [12:50] <rae25rae> i liked RIta [12:51] <MrMcGonagall> I think Hermione did underestimate Rita's media influence [12:51] <rae25rae> she was so nasty [12:51] <huebbe> Rita's character is perfect! [12:51] <rae25rae> it was awesome [12:51] <SevenofNine> Rita's another fun character to hate [12:51] <harryfreak359> Her characcter is great! She so annoying! [12:51] <JaneMarple9> :shock: [12:51] <kaelgirl> she did, MrM. [12:51] <Pleshette> Yes I agree Mr.McG [12:51] <NCMcGonagall> As a former reporter, I have to say Rita is not a common journalist. [12:51] <crazytibby> He was the character you love to hate [12:51] <kaelgirl> this was Hermione's first experience being famous as well....in a bad way. [12:51] <rae25rae> yes [12:51] <rae25rae> ot [12:51] <rae25rae> it is like [12:51] <JaneMarple9> Who could like Rita??? |She's evil! biggrin [12:51] <Aislinn> she is a tabloid reporter [12:51] <potter-addict> I think JKR should have used her original idea, with The Weasly's cousin... [12:51] <Aislinn> and acts like one [12:51] <fawkes28> She is intelligent but I think she is very sneaky and reminds me of the slytherins [12:51] <crazytibby> She kinda remiinds me of Miranda Pristly in Devil wears prada [12:51] <SoonerGryffindor> You have to admit that she was deliciously evil with the article [12:51] <NCMcGonagall> exactly Aislinn [12:51] <rae25rae> it mimics OK! magazine and People and Star [12:51] <harryfreak359> oh she was Sooner [12:51] <Pleshette> And Rita underestimated Hermione's ability to fight back [12:52] <JaneMarple9> admitted Sooner smile [12:52] <SevenofNine> Right, sooner [12:52] <rae25rae> it was really realistic because those magazines have all of these "sources" that they dont name [12:52] <kaelgirl> most definitely, Pleshette [12:52] <huebbe> I don't think anyone has ever really challanged Rita....until Hermonie [12:52] <potter-addict> yeah [12:52] <SevenofNine> Total disregard for how her words hurt others [12:52] <Aislinn> yes, I agree seven [12:52] <futureweasley> me either, huebbe...that's a very good observation [12:52] <crazytibby> I know she deserved it... But I love her! [12:52] <NCMcGonagall> anything for a big headline [12:52] <MrMcGonagall> Why would Ron think Hermione would brew a love potion? [12:52] <SoonerGryffindor> He didnt [12:52] <rae25rae> because he is jealous [12:52] <bemused> did he? [12:52] <JaneMarple9> yes 7of9, thats the evilest about her for me [12:52] <crazytibby> Because hes like that [12:53] <JaneMarple9> yes he's jealous [12:53] <huebbe> he doubts her affections [12:53] <harryfreak359> That's Ron [12:53] <fawkes28> Ron was just a crazy jealous teenager [12:53] <SoonerGryffindor> because in his world that would have been prefereable to Krum liking Hermione [12:53] <NCMcGonagall> he's often suspicious of her actions [12:53] <JaneMarple9> he knows she doesn't like Krum really [12:53] <fawkes28> Hermione is a smart cookie though - but she is definitely above that [12:53] <rae25rae> yes, i agree, Sooner [12:53] <Pleshette> You beat me to it Sooner wink [12:53] <Aislinn> He was feeling so insecure and struggling with his own self image in this book, and this was a reaction that came from that place [12:53] <SevenofNine> Well, Ron would certainly think Hermione capable of creating a whopping good potion [12:53] <rae25rae> true [12:53] <SevenofNine> I agree Aislinn [12:53] <crazytibby> Typical teenagers. Actually Im a teenager [12:54] <rae25rae> but he knows hermione. she isnt that sort of person [12:54] <huebbe> have to go.. I have a date with my daughter! [12:54] <kaelgirl> Yes, Aislinn [12:54] <crazytibby> have fun [12:54] <rae25rae> ok, bye! [12:54] <Aislinn> bye buebbe [12:54] <Aislinn> huebbe [12:54] <Pleshette> He doesn't want to believe that Krum would like Hermione for who she is rather than to gain an advantage in the TWT [12:54] <kaelgirl> bye huebbe [12:54] <harryfreak359> bye huebbe [12:54] *** huebbe has quit [Bye] [12:54] <NCMcGonagall> rae , that's logic - the heart knows no logic [12:54] <JaneMarple9> yes typical teenage behavour [12:54] <SevenofNine> Well, Hermione -- the generally rigid rule keeper-- has been shown to break rules on occasion. [12:54] <MrMcGonagall> Ron doesn't want to believe that Hermione has any affection for Krum or that she would be attractive to Krum. [12:54] <SevenofNine> Perhaps is was wishful thinking on Ron's part? [12:54] *** Ravendor left #lounge [] [12:54] <crazytibby> I love when her rebel spirit comes out [12:54] <MrMcGonagall> Exactly, 7of9 [12:55] <JaneMarple9> perhaps 7of9 [12:55] <JaneMarple9> nice idea [12:55] <rae25rae> true, NCmcG [12:55] <kaelgirl> I agree, Seven [12:55] <JaneMarple9> it was foreshadowing of book 6 [12:55] <JaneMarple9> with the chocolate cauldron cakes [12:55] *** ltbrave23 left #lounge [] [12:55] <MrMcGonagall> Why does Snape carry Veritaserum on his person? [12:55] <SevenofNine> Paranoia? [12:55] <fawkes28> i think this is a very good question [12:55] <SoonerGryffindor> He was on his guard [12:55] <rae25rae> he isnt trusting [12:55] <Pleshette> *cough baddie cough* [12:55] <JaneMarple9> because he's severussnape [12:55] <bemused> in case he might need it?? [12:55] <Poet> He's the potions master for one. [12:56] <JaneMarple9> biggrin [12:56] <crazytibby> Lol I agree 70f 9 [12:56] <kaelgirl> because he always wants to know the truth [12:56] <fawkes28> I think he was smart because he knew that something was going on when Harry's name got put in the Goblet of Fire [12:56] *** witchdragon has joined #lounge [12:56] <futureweasley> I think that, if it was a stroke of genius, it was on Dumbledore's request that he always have it [12:56] <kaelgirl> I agree fawkes [12:56] <Poet> I like that idea fawkes [12:56] <JaneMarple9> yes Poet that's a great answer [12:56] <crazytibby> I think maybe he knows way more than anyuone thinks [12:56] <futureweasley>  is the ultimate Eagle Scout[12:56] <Aislinn> I think he had it because of the events that occurred that year - at the Quidditch world cup, and the fact that the dark mark was growing stronger [12:56] <Pleshette> could be future [12:56] <SevenofNine> But it also makes you wonder if he routinely carries it around with him fawkes. lol [12:56] <Aislinn> he was on his guard [12:56] <SevenofNine> He's a bit like a vulture [12:56] <JaneMarple9> No i don;t think he was suspicious [12:56] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that he knew ad Death Muncher was roaming the schoo [12:56] <Poet> And Snape is prideful. If someone has the need for it, he can pull it out of his pocket and be the hero. [12:56] <bemused> Perhaps he didn't want anyone to steal it... [12:56] <rae25rae> yes, in the movie, the look on Alan Rickman's face when he and Dumbledore and McG where wondering whether to let Harry compete [12:56] <SevenofNine> sitting there, watching, waiting to catch someone [12:57] <rae25rae> showed his suspiciouns [12:57] <fawkes28> well, he is trying to find out information and is always on his guard, seven [12:57] <JaneMarple9> he wasn't as much on his guard as much as last term with Lupin [12:57] <crazytibby> yeah [12:57] <Pleshette> But to threaten Harry with it was crossing a line [12:57] <SevenofNine> Yet, you'd think he would be Jane with Moody around [12:57] <rae25rae> it was.. [12:57] <JaneMarple9> I wondered why he never tried reading Moody's mind [12:57] <futureweasley> death muncher :giggle: [12:57] <kaelgirl> Snape always crosses the lines [12:57] <crazytibby> I ownder why doesnt read everyone's mind [12:57] <SevenofNine> I imagine he did, Jane. [12:57] <MrMcGonagall> I almost suspect that Snape intended to taunt Harry in that class, so he had tehe Veritaserum with him. [12:57] <Pleshette> He sure does kael [12:58] <fawkes28> i disagree mr. m [12:58] <bemused> I don't think he would have done it, though - didn't need to anyway [12:58] <SevenofNine> I think Aurors would probably have to be good at Occlumensy (as well as Barty Jr) [12:58] <crazytibby> lol reminds me of the CoC futureweasley [12:58] <rae25rae> if Snape is evil, he did read Barty Jr's mind [12:58] <JaneMarple9> And Barty Junior hid his feelings? [12:58] <NCMcGonagall> Lupin wasn't a DE, Karkaroff was, Jane [12:58] <rae25rae> or tried to [12:58] <MrMcGonagall> Snape knew someone was stealing from his stores, nd he suspected Harry, which was logical. [12:58] <Poet> I think this was the first time we'd seen the veritaserum. Jo shows it to us so we'll be ready to see it again later in the book [12:58] <MrMcGonagall> Even if erroneous [12:58] <crazytibby> the one crime he never comitted.... [12:58] <JaneMarple9> Yes Snape was suspicious of Karkaoff [12:58] <rae25rae> lol, yeah [12:59] <SevenofNine> lol crazytibby! [12:59] <SevenofNine> too right [12:59] <JaneMarple9> He suspecked Harry because he hates Harry, simple [12:59] <kaelgirl> I think that Snape wouldn't have used it, but he was losing his temper at Harry, so he just threatened him [12:59] <MrMcGonagall> B To live as a dog, risk capture by the dementors, and eat a steady diet of rats–just how much does Sirius love Harry? [12:59] <rae25rae> Snape is a smart guy..he finds reasons to be suspicious of people. people's minds are open books for snape. why not read them? [12:59] <crazytibby> Obsessivly [12:59] <bemused> That much, Mr M [12:59] <MrMcGonagall> To live as a dog, risk capture by the dementors, and eat a steady diet of rats–just how much does Sirius love Harry? [13:00] <SoonerGryffindor> very much [13:00] <crazytibby> Obsessivly [13:00] <rae25rae> Sirius loves loves loves Harry [13:00] <witchdragon> I would say a lot [13:00] <JaneMarple9> Sirius thinks Harry asJames I think [13:00] <kaelgirl> a lot, just like a father. [13:00] <JaneMarple9> a brother [13:00] <futureweasley> rae, I might need to give you private lessons on Snape's evileness :giggle: [13:00] <rae25rae> yes, he loved James and he loves Harry [13:00] <witchdragon> Yeah, your right Jane [13:00] <rae25rae> lol [13:00] <Pleshette> He's trying to make up for all the time he missed in Harry's life while in Azkaban [13:00] <fawkes28> future, boo [13:00] <SevenofNine> Lots--plus a feeling that he's responsible for Harry not having a father to watch over him [13:00] <JaneMarple9> No, not as a father. More like a brother [13:00] <SoonerGryffindor> honestly, that part is really gross to think about [13:00] <JaneMarple9> to lead astray [13:00] <crazytibby> Yeah, surviver's guilt [13:00] <kaelgirl> I think that Sirius doesn't want James' death to be in vain, so he's serving his duty as Godfather [13:01] *** Moriah has joined #lounge [13:01] <Pleshette> Hey moriah! [13:01] <JaneMarple9> Sirius was never a father figure [13:01] <crazytibby> Hi Moriah [13:01] <Moriah> Hi smile [13:01] <Aislinn> yes, Seven - I think that he took that responsibility very seriously [13:01] <SevenofNine> Well, not just that--Sirius feels responsible for James and Lily''s death because they took his advice and died for it [13:01] <rae25rae> Sirius was close enough to a Father figure [13:01] <fawkes28> i think he just wanted just have food, water, and shelter - the basics - all he cared about was harry's welfare rather than his own [13:01] <kaelgirl> thats true seven [13:01] <JaneMarple9> he doesn't want James to be dead really [13:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how devoted to Harry Sirius is [13:01] <JaneMarple9> so pretends Harry is James again [13:01] <rae25rae> yeah [13:01] <rae25rae> its sad [13:01] <NCMcGonagall> Sirius wanted to be a father figure, but he didn't know how [13:01] <crazytibby> I liked sirius [13:01] <MrMcGonagall> He's a very good and caring godfather. [13:01] <JaneMarple9> he wants Harry to have fun! [13:01] <Pleshette> And he's truly worried about Harry's safety [13:02] *** FreedomStar has joined #lounge [13:02] <SevenofNine> I love the Sirius character and I think his is the most tragic of all of them [13:02] <bemused> I don't think it's pretence, Jane, I think he ust can't separate the two [13:02] <rae25rae> crap, i feel so sad now. i wanted harry to live with sirius so bad.. [13:02] <bemused> *just [13:02] <crazytibby> Ok i really do have to go [13:02] <JaneMarple9> Sirius is a good and caring godfather agreed - but leads Harry astray [13:02] <witchdragon> I wish Sirius had not died, but I guess it couldn't be helped [13:02] <harryfreak359> hi freedomstar [13:02] <FreedomStar> hello [13:02] <crazytibby> Bye everyone! [13:02] <SevenofNine> Me too rae, but Harry wouldn't have been able to anyway. [13:02] <MrMcGonagall> It's amazing the things people will do for those they love. Even eating rats. [13:02] <SevenofNine> DD would not have allowed it [13:02] <NCMcGonagall> His father was awful. James was killed. He spent 12 years in Azkaban. He didn't know how to father [13:02] <rae25rae> bye! [13:02] <JaneMarple9> yes Bemused totally [13:02] <rae25rae> yeah [13:02] <witchdragon> bye [13:02] <harryfreak359> bye [13:02] <rae25rae> he wouldnt be able to [13:02] <kaelgirl> I think that Sirius was more of a father figure than most people think. He was awfully protective [13:02] *** crazytibby has quit [Bye] [13:02] <FreedomStar> bye tinny [13:02] <bemused> But dogs don't mind that, Mr M! [13:02] <rae25rae> he was ! [13:02] <FreedomStar> gah [13:02] <harryfreak359> Yes indeed, Mr.M! [13:02] <FreedomStar> meant to say Tibby [13:03] <JaneMarple9> I think Sirius's death was the one death that totally affected me [13:03] <witchdragon> he was as loyal as a dog (literally) [13:03] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, he had his flaws, but you can't doubt that he loved Harry. [13:03] <rae25rae> sirius' death just...surprised me. i felt really empty after reading OotP [13:03] <Moriah> I think he did a good job of being a father figure in GoF... it wasn't until OotP that he got depressed and reckless from being stuck in Grimmauld Place [13:03] <Pleshette> Sometimes he gets confused to his role in Harry's life I think...coming into it so late [13:03] <NCMcGonagall> Sirius gave Harry good advice in GoF. In OotP, he was often under the influence [13:03] <JaneMarple9> He was witchdragon [13:03] <FreedomStar> (oh man, typing w/ one hand doesn't work well at all) I actually kinda predicted that Sirius would die... [13:03] <SevenofNine> I like that witchdragon [13:03] <Moriah> Exactly, NCMcGonagall [13:03] <JaneMarple9> yes rae that how i felt to [13:03] <rae25rae> it wasn't like AK, it was just a veil..a piece of fabric.. [13:03] <SoonerGryffindor> I do agree that in this book Sirius was more of a father figure than he was in the other [13:03] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think he was depressed, but I think he was alays a little reckless in his personality. [13:04] <rae25rae> he was with harry more [13:04] <kaelgirl> thats what I was trying to point out, Sooner. smile [13:04] <rae25rae> in book 5 [13:04] <MrMcGonagall> What did you make of the conditions Sirius described as to the first wizarding war? Were the Ministry actions, i.e., fighting violence with violence, justified under those circumstances? [13:04] <SevenofNine> In GoF Sirius still has his freedom [13:04] <Moriah> You don't think he was depressed in book 5, MrMG? [13:04] <JaneMarple9> oh Reckless was Sirius's middle name [13:04] <NCMcGonagall> How could he not be depressed when he had very little contact with humans? [13:04] <SevenofNine> There are many who believe that it is, Mr. McG [13:04] <FreedomStar> Fighting violence with violence is always a gamble [13:04] <MrMcGonagall> In Book 5, yes, but not in 4. [13:04] <bemused> I don't think so, Mr M - thy led to a lot of injustice [13:04] <SevenofNine> I agree Freedom. [13:04] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how we get to see a glimpse of what it was really like [13:04] <harryfreak359> Yes, it is Freedom [13:04] <FreedomStar> there are people who believe both sides; it depends completely on the situation [13:04] <Moriah> Oh, ok... I see what you're saying [13:04] <rae25rae> um, how else could they fight Voldy and the deatheaters?? [13:04] <fawkes28> the minsitry doesnt want to admit that they put an innocent man in jail [13:04] <Poet> I think that when you're faced with killing or being killed, that you'd do anything to protect yourself if need be. [13:05] <kaelgirl> I think that it was an extreme measure that needed to be taken [13:05] <JaneMarple9> i think Sirius was very lonley in book 5 [13:05] <rae25rae> he was [13:05] <SevenofNine> When it becomes difficult to tell the "good" guys from the "bad" guys because they are doing the same thing, the bad guys have won [13:05] <Poet> Afterall, the other side has magic too.... [13:05] <JaneMarple9> Sirius was telling Harry how it was [13:05] <witchdragon> Does anyone think the description Sirius has could happen in book 7? [13:05] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think the Ministry did the right thing - never back away from the principles of right and goodness [13:05] <Moriah> Well said, Seven [13:05] <JaneMarple9> and how it would be again [13:05] <rae25rae> ..i have to go [13:05] <rae25rae> bye guys!!! [13:05] <kaelgirl> bye [13:05] <Moriah> Bye rae! [13:05] <SoonerGryffindor> bye rae [13:05] <FreedomStar> bye [13:05] <fawkes28> bye rae [13:05] <witchdragon> bye [13:05] <Aislinn> bye Rae [13:05] <Pleshette> bye rae [13:05] <FreedomStar> I think it's hard to determine what the 'right thing' is [13:05] <SevenofNine> Bye rae [13:05] <JaneMarple9> bye rae [13:05] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, raerae! Thanks for joining us. [13:05] *** rae25rae left #lounge [] [13:05] <FreedomStar> everyone's got a diff. opinion of what's right and what's wrong [13:06] <kaelgirl> there are more solutions than violence, so it could've been avoided. [13:06] <FreedomStar> and since it's not a factual question or thing it's hard to decide [13:06] <Poet> I don't think the Ministry should have used crucio or imperious. I think they could have found other spells. [13:06] <fawkes28> very true, freedom star [13:06] <SevenofNine> that is true, FreedomStar, but there are usually rules/laws to provide some basic guideline [13:06] <FreedomStar> yes, there are def. other solutions to violence [13:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we have all seen by now that the MoM is not really doing so well in the fight against evil [13:06] <Aislinn> I think that if you abandon your principles out of fear, they never really meant much to you [13:06] <fawkes28> i agree 100 percent poet [13:06] <kaelgirl> they needed to do something drastic, like most governments need to do nowadays [13:06] <FreedomStar> I'm not disagreeing w/ y'all [13:06] <Aislinn> and how are you different from the thing your are trying to fight against [13:06] <FreedomStar> I'm just saying that at the time they thought it was the best solution [13:06] <SevenofNine> I agree as well, Poet. [13:07] <NCMcGonagall> Only late in the war were the Aurors allowed to use the Unforgiveable Curses [13:07] <SevenofNine> It actually reminds me of the show 24 and the things Jack does. [13:07] <JaneMarple9> sirius was preparing harry [13:07] <Moriah> Was that power ever taken away again? [13:07] <kaelgirl> vey much so, Seven. [13:07] <SevenofNine> Begs the questions if the end ever justifies the means [13:07] <NCMcGonagall> I don't thinnk so, Moriah [13:07] <kaelgirl> he kills when he really feels that they need to be killed [13:07] <MrMcGonagall> Was Crouch still fighting the Imperius Curse when he was trying to speak? Or was his brain permanently addled by the effort? [13:08] <harryfreak359> I think that he was still fighting it [13:08] <FreedomStar> I am a firm believer in that the ends do not always justify the means [13:08] <Pleshette> Look at how successful Moody was in bringing in DE and he never killed anyone that Sirius knew of [13:08] <Moriah> Yeah, I think hthe Imperius affected his brain too [13:08] <fawkes28> i think he was trying to fight but he was facing a losing battle [13:08] <witchdragon> I think his brain was screwed [13:08] <FreedomStar> Crouch was def. trying to fight the curse [13:08] <Aislinn> I think he was fighting it [13:08] <SevenofNine> Me too Freedom [13:08] <bemused> Don't know, Mr M - could be either, or both [13:08] <kaelgirl> I don't think his brain was screwed up [13:08] <FreedomStar> BC Jr. said that his father was starting to fight the curse, just like he himself did [13:09] <FreedomStar> but then again, there are some who would say that BC Jr. was permanently addled.... [13:09] <kaelgirl> I think that the imperius was just screwing up his ways of thinking [13:09] <witchdragon> well, I guess it all depends on if Wormtail was still performing it [13:09] <JaneMarple9> Crouch was trying to warn Harry [13:09] <SevenofNine> Yes. We know the memory charm can mess up the brain. Not sure about the Imperius [13:09] <JaneMarple9> he knew how dangerous his son was [13:09] <Moriah> And Voldemort's Imperius would be even stronger ... could affect your bain when you try to fight it [13:09] <Pleshette> I have to run everyone... [13:09] <bemused> Snr seemed more damaged by it than Jnr [13:09] <SevenofNine> Yes, Jane, which makes me think he was fighting it can came across as mental [13:09] <FreedomStar> true [13:09] <Pleshette> Bye! [13:09] <kaelgirl> I don't think the Imperius messes with the brain. I think it just alters how it works for a time [13:09] <FreedomStar> bye pleshette [13:09] <witchdragon> I think the imperius curse has the same means as the cruciatus after a long period of time [13:09] <Moriah> Bye Pleshette! [13:09] <harryfreak359> I think he might have been confused because of the curse being on him [13:09] <harryfreak359> bye pleshette! [13:09] <JaneMarple9> and had a few moments of clarity before his fate [13:09] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [13:09] <bemused> bye Pleshette! [13:09] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, Pleshette! [13:09] <kaelgirl> bye pleshette [13:09] <SevenofNine> Bye Pleshette [13:10] <JaneMarple9> He must had been so frightened [13:10] <SevenofNine> Can you imagine what an emotional yo-yo that must have been for him? [13:10] <JaneMarple9> I wonder why Barty Junior was never admitted into St. Mungos? [13:10] <Moriah> Even when he was talking about Voldemort getting stronger, he was still saying weird things [13:10] <SevenofNine> He's in euphoria while under the curse and then freaking out when he's in control of his own mind [13:10] <kaelgirl> good at faking sanity, probably [13:10] <witchdragon> Barty Jr. was thought to be dead [13:10] <bemused> Knowing that his son was doing that to him... [13:10] <FreedomStar> I wonder what happened to Barty Jr. after the Dementor got him [13:10] <kaelgirl> Personally, I didn't like Barty Jr.'s potrayal in the 4th movie [13:11] <SevenofNine> Veggie [13:11] <MrMcGonagall> Were you surprised to learn Snape was up to his eyeballs in the Dark Arts when he was a kid? [13:11] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [13:11] <SevenofNine> Nope [13:11] <witchdragon> no [13:11] <kaelgirl> Not really [13:11] <Aislinn> not at all [13:11] <FreedomStar> not after HBP [13:11] <fawkes28> totally surpised - tee hee [13:11] <JaneMarple9> No Barty Junior in film 4 was rubbish [13:11] <SoonerGryffindor> now that I think about, it should not have been surprising [13:11] <JaneMarple9> Not one little bit surprised [13:11] <kaelgirl> the tongue thing was so...weird [13:11] <FreedomStar> I wasn't initially surprised, it was kind of like 'oh how interesting, snape liked the dark arts' [13:11] <SevenofNine> Yes, Jane. [13:11] <bemused> not really - but we still only have Sirius perception of him [13:11] <futureweasley> not shocked at all. He really hasn't stepped away from that [13:12] <kaelgirl> I was convinced he was into the dark arts from book 1 [13:12] <kaelgirl> because he was a slytherin [13:12] <MrMcGonagall> It wasn't surprising at all. [13:12] <JaneMarple9> we heard in book one "Snape always wanted the Dark Arts" job [13:12] <SevenofNine> But that's a bit of a red herring, Kael [13:12] <kaelgirl> it is, I admit [13:12] <JaneMarple9> biggrin echo Kael! [13:12] <SevenofNine> Jo has said that not all Slytherins are bad and not all bad ones comes from there. [13:13] <SevenofNine> But the ones we're shown make it SO easy for us to believe that. [13:13] <FreedomStar> Yeah, just look at our little rat friend [13:13] <potter-addict> not after HBP -------------------- |
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[13:13] <MrMcGonagall> Hermione did not think Percy would sell his family out in an effort to follow the “rules.” Ron, however, thought Percy would do such a thing if a family member stood in the way of his ambitions. Who do you think better understood Percy and why?
[13:13] <kaelgirl> But I listened to all those in the first book that were prejudice against slytherin [13:13] <Moriah> It was a red herring but red herrings (like rumors) can be based on truth [13:13] <JaneMarple9> but again, we haven't met many good Slytherins [13:13] <SevenofNine> I hope Hermione is right, but i'm worried Ron could be [13:13] *** MrMcGonagall has quit [Bye] [13:13] <bemused> He's his younger brother - he's grown up with Percy [13:13] * fawkes28 needs to keep her mouth shut about Percy [13:13] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how Ron seemed to almost prophecize Percy's actions in future books [13:13] <witchdragon> I really want Hermione to be right [13:13] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [13:13] <Aislinn> Now that we've moved along to HBP, it seems that Ron knew him better [13:13] <JaneMarple9> Ron understood him more [13:13] <NCMcGonagall> bemused, as for only having Srius's opinon...we've seen him in action and we've seen his personal spell s that he created [13:13] <fawkes28> wb, mr. m [13:13] <FreedomStar> I want Hermione to be right, but Ron's his bro. [13:14] <JaneMarple9> he has grown up with him [13:14] <Poet> We see later in Book 5 how Percy ignored his own father in the hallway in the Ministry of Magic. Obviously Ron knows his brother well [13:14] <Moriah> Hm, I'm lagging. Will jump out and come back in [13:14] <Aislinn> back when I read GoF, though, I thought that Hermione had his measure [13:14] <SevenofNine> Now, brothers can be mistaken--like I think Sirius was of Regulus [13:14] <JaneMarple9> he used to respect Percy....grudgingly [13:14] <JaneMarple9> but he has seen Percy change [13:14] <Aislinn> the way that he reacted when Harry pulled Ron from the lake made me think that Percy still prioritized his family [13:14] <kaelgirl> gotta go! This has been fun. Bye everyone! [13:14] <SoonerGryffindor> I think to a degree that Hermione wants to defend Percy as she sees a small part of herself in him [13:14] <FreedomStar> bye kael! [13:14] <Aislinn> but I don't believe it anymore [13:14] <SevenofNine> so I hope Ron's ideas of Percy are related to brotherly irritation [13:14] <witchdragon> Yeah, Percy must still care, deep down in his heart [13:15] <FreedomStar> Did any of the weasley's seem surprised that Percy chose the ministry? [13:15] <harryfreak359> bye Kael [13:15] <fawkes28> but i think this book shows us that Percy just started going downhill [13:15] <Poet> Percy and Hermione are different people, but she looks up to him. [13:15] <Aislinn> bye kaelgirl [13:15] <JaneMarple9> hmmmm maybe sooner [13:15] <fawkes28> Percy has far too much ambition than i care for [13:15] <witchdragon> definitly fawkes [13:15] *** kaelgirl has quit [Bye] [13:15] <JaneMarple9> i think book 4 was Percy finally broke from the weasley fold [13:15] <bemused> I think you're right, Sooner [13:15] <futureweasley> I agree Poet...I think that Hermione could have been Percy under different circumstances [13:15] <JaneMarple9> oh yes fawkes [13:15] <SevenofNine> I hope that Percy's eyes are eventually opened when he realizes he's been used by the MoM. [13:16] <futureweasley> I agree SevenofNine [13:16] <JaneMarple9> so do I 7of9 [13:16] *** Moriah has quit [Bye] [13:16] <bemused> the Percy who pulled Ron from the lake might still surface [13:16] *** Moriah has joined #lounge [13:16] <SoonerGryffindor> still though, I cant forget how concerned for Ron that Percy was [13:16] <FreedomStar> I hope it does bemused [13:16] <SevenofNine> I sure hope so bemused [13:16] <MrMcGonagall> I really can't decide about Percy. I'm still hopeful that he'll realize the importance of his family. He did rush over to Ron after the 2nd Task. [13:16] <SoonerGryffindor> !halfop Moriah [13:16] <JaneMarple9> I fear for Percy the most in book 7 [13:16] <SevenofNine> Brilliant minds, Freedom! lol [13:16] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [13:16] <fawkes28> hi expie [13:16] <harryfreak359> Hi Expie!! [13:16] <FreedomStar> ;) [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Expie [13:17] <Moriah> Hi Expie! [13:17] <SevenofNine> Hi Expie [13:17] <Expelliarmas> heya peepers! [13:17] <JaneMarple9> hug expie hug [13:17] <Aislinn> Hi expie [13:17] <FreedomStar> although I think that, as much as Percy is aligning hiimself with the ministry, he also knows that the rest of his family is still in cohorts w/ DD, and he knows DD is a powerful wizard and will keep 'em all safe [13:17] <FreedomStar> oh and hi Expie! [13:17] <witchdragon> hi! [13:17] <MrMcGonagall> What prompted Mr. Crouch to break the Imperius Curse on him? Was it guilt? Angst? Regret? Or something else? [13:17] <FreedomStar> something is def. gonna happen w/ percy in book 7 now that DD is gone [13:18] <Moriah> I think that Percy wanted to do what was right and when he realized he was wrong, his pride couldn't handle it. I have a lot of hope for him [13:18] <SevenofNine> Probably all the above, MrMcG [13:18] <Moriah> He probably was trying all along to break it [13:18] <harryfreak359> I think it was a bit of guilt and regret. [13:18] <Moriah> Just took some time [13:18] <JaneMarple9> regret and sorrow and fright [13:18] <bemused> The shock of being betrayed by his son? [13:18] <witchdragon> all of the above [13:18] <Expelliarmas> Desperation! It was his fault LV came back, he set that sequence of events into action. [13:18] <SevenofNine> He did hate the dark arts [13:18] <harryfreak359> yes I agree Moriah [13:18] <JaneMarple9> lots and lots of feelings swimming around his head [13:18] <SevenofNine> And it must have made him nuts to become a pawn for the very creature he'd fought so hard to defeat [13:18] <JaneMarple9> but he knew Harry was in danger from his son [13:18] <Aislinn> I think that he was feeling tremendous guilt and remorse, and was desperately trying to correct the situation [13:18] <Poet> I think it was Wormtail's carelessness and Mr. Crouch's power as a wizard that allowed him to break through the curse a little [13:19] <JaneMarple9> but he couldn't tell him who his son was [13:19] <bemused> ... and the memory of what his wife had given for jnr? [13:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that is shows that he has strong convictions [13:19] <witchdragon> I agree Poet [13:19] <fawkes28> i think he hated it because he did not have much control of the situation [13:19] <Aislinn> He knew that his choice to get his son out of Azkaban led to the events that were occurring [13:19] <futureweasley> I think it was something that had to happen...Crouch would have died and the secret would have died with him. He knew that [13:19] <SevenofNine> Yep [13:19] <JaneMarple9> yes Sooner he had strong convictions [13:20] <JaneMarple9> he wanted the truth to be revealed to Dumbledore before it was too late [13:20] <Moriah> Crouch, even though he made a lot of mistakes in how he fought Dark Arts, always hated Dark Arts. Just to try to right the wrong and warn DD about LV [13:20] <FreedomStar> No comment b/c I don't quite know where I stand on this [13:20] <Poet> We see that even Crouch Jr. could break through his own father's imperious after a long time. Harry could break through the one Moody put on him. I think it's a magical power strugle between the curser and the cursed [13:20] <futureweasley> I understand that FreedomStar [13:20] <JaneMarple9> he wanted to warn Dumble yes [13:20] <futureweasley> it's hard to form opinions on stuff at times [13:21] <fawkes28> hi sooner [13:21] <harryfreak359> Oh it is, I come across that a lot, freedom [13:21] <FreedomStar> yep future, there are things that I just don't take a stand on [13:21] -NickServ- Password incorrect. [13:21] <Poet> welcome SoonerGryffindor [13:21] <futureweasley> welcome back Sooner [13:21] <FreedomStar> wb sooner [13:21] <MrMcGonagall> Couldn’t Mr. Crouch have found some other way to communicate with Dumbledore? Why did he have to come personally? [13:21] <JaneMarple9> because he wanted to tell him face to face [13:22] <JaneMarple9> and perhaps see his son for the last time [13:22] <witchdragon> I don't think Mr. Crouch could go any other way [13:22] <SevenofNine> Perhaps because he was in and out of himself? [13:22] <FreedomStar> I think it would've been to easy to intercept an owl [13:22] <Poet> I loved the way he he came to communicate. Maybe he'd tried other methods and had been caught [13:22] <harryfreak359> Well, I don't know, I think he wanted to do it personally and that might have been all he could think to do at the time [13:22] <Expelliarmas> I think the efforts to break the imperious curse permanently addled his brain. I also think his wand was taken away. [13:22] <Aislinn> I think he was not only trying to communicate to DD, but also trying to get physically away from Wormtail and Voldy [13:22] <bemused> desperate to repair the damage he'd done? [13:22] <FreedomStar> and flooing isn't always safe; what if he mispronounced where he wanted to go? [13:22] <Poet> It was more mysterious that he came in person. [13:22] <SevenofNine> I can just imagine that trip to the school, with part of him trying to get there and part of him trying to get him back to LV [13:22] <Moriah> I agree, Aislinn [13:22] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [13:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I think his brains were scrambled [13:22] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [13:22] <JaneMarple9> if he had sent a owl, it might had been hijacked [13:22] <SevenofNine> Yes, Ann, I agree. [13:23] <FreedomStar> but the thing is he had been kept captive for so long, and what V was planning.... [13:23] <JaneMarple9> yes he was desparate to get away from Wormtail and Voldie [13:23] <Poet> wb fawkes28 [13:23] <FreedomStar> well, that kind of info isn't something you trust to an owl, is it? [13:23] <SoonerGryffindor> wb fawkes [13:23] <futureweasley> HI FAWKES [13:23] *** jbjeans has joined #lounge [13:23] <FreedomStar> hi jbjeans! [13:23] <witchdragon> I have to go. See ya! [13:23] <fawkes28>  [13:23] <Expelliarmas> without a wand, he couldn't apparate [13:23] <SevenofNine> Bye [13:23] <Aislinn> hi jbj [13:23] <Moriah> And who knows if he could have been caught while writing the letter [13:23] <FreedomStar> bye witchdragon [13:23] <futureweasley> bye witch [13:23] <Aislinn> wye witch [13:23] <jbjeans> Hey everyone! [13:24] <Moriah> Better to try to get away and get to DD ASAP [13:24] <JaneMarple9> yes a little dangerous to intrust to a owl agreed [13:24] <MrMcGonagall> He couldn't have deliberated properly for apparition. [13:24] <Expelliarmas> not with scrambled brains, MrM [13:24] <Moriah> hahah, or determined [13:24] <JaneMarple9> he had one thing on his mind...the part which wasn't impervioused biggrin...get to Dumbledore [13:24] <Aislinn> I agree Mr M [13:25] <Aislinn> his brain wasn't clear enough for the 3 D's [13:25] <SevenofNine> Yes, and he couldn't have apparated right into the school [13:25] <FreedomStar> plud you can't apparate inside hogwarts [13:25] <Aislinn> good point [13:25] <JaneMarple9> and to get a message to harry [13:25] <bemused> He couldn't apparate into Hogwarts anyway [13:25] <FreedomStar> lol 7of9, great minds think alike [13:25] <Expelliarmas> no, but had he been able to do so, he could have apparatted closer to the school [13:25] <SevenofNine> Yes, Freedom lol [13:25] <JaneMarple9> warn harry [13:25] <FreedomStar> where do the anti-ap boundaries extend to? [13:25] <bemused> the gates? [13:25] <SevenofNine> Right to the gates as shown when Snape was fleeing with Draco [13:25] <JaneMarple9> to Muggle land biggrin [13:25] <jbjeans> yeah [13:26] *** danae24 has joined #lounge [13:26] <jbjeans> you all type too fast [13:26] <FreedomStar> hey danae [13:26] <jbjeans> lol [13:26] <MrMcGonagall> It seemed Mr. Crouch was proud of Junior’s academic achievements (12 O.W.L.S.). Did he ever tell Junior? What kind of Daddy Dearest was he? [13:26] <danae24> Hi!, I'm finally back [13:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I bet he talked non-stop about it [13:26] <Poet> Obviously not a good one [13:26] <FreedomStar> Crouch expected that kinda stuff from his son [13:26] <SoonerGryffindor> wb danae [13:26] <futureweasley> NO WIRE HANGERS! [13:26] <NCMcGonagall> but what about the other areas? like the Forbidden Forest [13:26] <bemused> an absent one - absent and demanding [13:26] <FreedomStar> i agree sooner [13:26] <JaneMarple9> crouch was a proud father [13:26] <Moriah> He was probably very proud but still not very attentive as a father [13:26] <fawkes28> i dont think he ever showed emotions around his son [13:26] <jbjeans> perhaps he talked to others about it, but never really said anything to his son [13:26] <JaneMarple9> just like Amos was of Cedric [13:26] <FreedomStar> he probably boasted to everyone, and never said he was proud [13:26] <SevenofNine> I imagine Barty Sr wasn't very demonstrative [13:26] <danae24> I dont think Crouch really told Jr. that he was proud of him [13:26] <JaneMarple9> enjoyed boasting [13:26] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [13:26] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [13:26] <fawkes28> I think he treated their relationship like business [13:26] <harryfreak359> I think that he was proud but very emotionless, and probably was very hard on his son [13:27] <fawkes28> wb, aislinn [13:27] <danae24> he only wanted to show off in front of other people [13:27] <jbjeans> agreed [13:27] <Poet> wb Aislinn [13:27] <JaneMarple9> but I don't think he told Barty Junior how proud he was of him [13:27] <JaneMarple9> just other people [13:27] <danae24> I think so too Jane [13:27] <FreedomStar> That was probably part of what drovr Barty J. away [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think that he told BCJ that he loved him or that he valued him, but I bet he talked about his accomplishements all the time [13:27] <JaneMarple9> He was a person who kept his emotions to himself [13:27] <Poet> I don't see Barty Senior as the type to show emotion directly to his son [13:27] <FreedomStar> he was under the impression that nothing he ever did would impress his father [13:27] <Aislinn> right Jane, I think it mattered more to him in terms of bragging rights than his relationship with his son [13:28] <SevenofNine> and Barty Sr was very busy at work during that time. Might not have come home as much as he shoul d have or attend important Barty Jr events. [13:28] <Expelliarmas> he might not have told Jr., but he likely bragged in front of Mrs. Crouch--she should have passed it on [13:28] *** jbjeans has quit [Bye] [13:28] <JaneMarple9> he truly love his wife and son but never really showed it [13:28] <Moriah> That's often not enough, Expie [13:28] <FreedomStar> I also see Barty J with a ton of pride; he's got this shell that you just can't crack [13:28] <fawkes28> i think he was disappointed in his son often because i think he held such high expectation for him [13:28] <Expelliarmas> maybe not, Moriah, but that's more than Harry would've gotten [13:28] <JaneMarple9> like Molly and Arthur show the kids how much they think of them [13:28] *** witchdragon has quit [Bye] [13:28] <Moriah> Very true [13:28] <JaneMarple9> perha[s fawkes [13:28] <SevenofNine> But even if Barty Sr. had done all those things doesn't mean that Barty Jr. wouldn't have gone bad anyway [13:28] <danae24> We have seen that Crouch only liked to appear as the most perfect family member, so we dont even know if it's true that Jr. got 12 O.W.L.s [13:29] <JaneMarple9> that might had been the problem [13:29] <SevenofNine> At some point, Barty Jr. must be responsible for his choices [13:29] <JaneMarple9> yes danae [13:29] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jr. was talented, but I doubt he ever heard words of approval from his father. [13:29] <SevenofNine> Excellent point danae [13:29] <Expelliarmas> I don't think uptight Crouch Sr. would have lied about such a thing [13:29] <Moriah> I bet it's true... he was pretty impressive [13:29] <Poet> Yes, he could have found other ways to rebel - open a joke shop for instance [13:29] <JaneMarple9> yes Mr McG [13:29] <MrMcGonagall> Daddy was probably driving him to get the 12 OWLS. [13:29] <Expelliarmas> Barty Jr. seems an awful lot like ... Percy [13:29] <danae24> maybe he made that fact up so he could presume that his family was the perfect one, I dont doubt that Jr did well, but maybe Sr. like to make things bigger than they were [13:29] <SevenofNine> lol Poet. That's healthy though! [13:29] <JaneMarple9> oh Yes Mr McG [13:29] <Aislinn> I'm sure he was Mr M [13:30] <FreedomStar> B. Sr. probably expected the 12 owls [13:30] <MrMcGonagall> Why did Snape [the greasy goon] delay Harry? Did that delay lead to Mr. Crouch’s murder? [13:30] <JaneMarple9> I can see him forcing him to work harder [13:30] <bemused> Perhaps he was struggling for Daddy's approval - and finally founf the approval with LV [13:30] <SevenofNine> And the twins are basically decent people, whereas I'm not sure the same thing can be said of Barty Jr [13:30] <danae24> No..... I dont think so [13:30] <Aislinn> that made me so angry [13:30] <FreedomStar> I think Snape was just trying to annoy harry [13:30] <JaneMarple9> I can see the simalities with Percy too [13:30] <bemused> Just for the pleasure of seeing Harry struggle [13:30] <Moriah> I don't think it was purposeful... just Snape's chance to bully Harry [13:30] <SevenofNine> Snape was power tripping with Harry as usual [13:30] <FreedomStar> and poke at him, and lord it over him that he's got this power as a teacher [13:30] <Aislinn> there was no reason for him to do that other than to give Harry a hard time [13:30] <FreedomStar> 7of9 put it very accurately [13:30] <JaneMarple9> Snape was just being Snape [13:30] <Expelliarmas> he did it because he could--because that's how Snape rolls [13:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that actually that might have saved Harry [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [13:31] <fawkes28> i completely agree, sooner [13:31] <JaneMarple9> perhaps he suspected Voldie was around [13:31] <Poet> I think it was Jo using Snape as usual. I think even if Snape hadn't stopped him, Crough Sr. would have died anyways. AK only takes a second [13:31] <SevenofNine> Why Sooner? [13:31] <Moriah> Hm, how so, Sooner? [13:31] <SevenofNine> I don't think Barty Jr would have taken harry then [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think it was intentional [13:31] <JaneMarple9> but it sealed Crouch's death warrent [13:31] <Moriah> Wouldn't DD have been with Harry if they had gotten back in time? [13:31] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think the delay was long enough to prevent Crouch's murder. [13:31] *** potter-addict has quit [Bye] [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that because of the delay, Harry was not out there when the murder occured [13:31] <bemused> That's interesting, sooner [13:31] <Moriah> I don't think it was either, MrMG, no matter what Harry thinks [13:31] <danae24> Snape just wanted to annoy Harry.... maybe thinking that it was just a silly thing... [13:31] <JaneMarple9> yes sooner [13:32] <fawkes28> people actually just assume that snape is up to no good - which is not true [13:32] <Expelliarmas> No, Jr. would have waited to have Sr. alone to kill him. [13:32] <Expelliarmas> Snape wasn't trying to save Harry there [13:32] <JaneMarple9> perhaps it is the only good thing Snape has ever done for Harry [13:32] <SevenofNine> Snape is as blind to Harry's abilities as Harry is to Snape's [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, Snape was just being a git by causing the delay [13:32] <Moriah> Oh, I think Snape probably has done a lot of good for Harry [13:32] <Poet> If Snape hadn't delayed, we might have seen him burying the bone, or he may have waited to bury it. [13:32] <Moriah> But that's a different conversation ;) [13:33] <MrMcGonagall> This was pretty horrible of Snape. [13:33] <FreedomStar> why didn't he kill Krum, though? [13:33] <harryfreak359> yes, he was Sooner [13:33] <fawkes28> exactly poet [13:33] <Moriah> Too suspicious, Freedom [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> it was kind of funny [13:33] <danae24> maybe because if he killed Krum, more problems would have errupted........and maybe the tournament would have been canceled [13:33] <Moriah> Krum didn't know anything that Harry didn't know. Don't want to draw more attention [13:33] <FreedomStar> yeah, but Crouch just disappearing when there were two witnesses.... [13:33] <bemused> It might mess up his tournament if he killed one of the champions [13:33] <FreedomStar> true [13:34] <SevenofNine> I agree that killing Krum could have messed things up [13:34] <MrMcGonagall> Why did Dumbledore believe Harry so quickly? How did Dumbledore know Harry was downstairs? Shouldn’t Dumbledore have given Harry the password to his office long ago? [13:34] <danae24> Maybe Dumbledore had another Marauders Map with him [13:34] <harryfreak359> DD knows that something waas going on, and knows that harry is the type to just cause problems. [13:34] <fawkes28> DD has built up such a trust with Harry [13:34] <Moriah> I don't think Harry should have had the password at this time any more than any other student [13:34] <Aislinn> I think that Dumbledore trusts Harry, and I think that he has been expecting unusual occurrences [13:34] <FreedomStar> Alrighty, I gtg [13:34] <bemused> DD has a sharp instinct for truth and lies, and danger [13:34] <FreedomStar> bye y'all! [13:34] <NCMcGonagall> We don't know when the password wsa changed [13:35] *** FreedomStar has quit [Bye] [13:35] <SevenofNine> DD mentions that he has been watching Harry more than Harry could imagine [13:35] <Moriah> Bye Freedom! [13:35] <Aislinn> I also think that he was suspicious of what had been happening with Crouch Sr up to that point [13:35] <fawkes28> DD knows what is going around in his school - he can become invisible without a cloak after all [13:35] <Moriah> I agree, Aislinn [13:35] <SevenofNine> Plus DD trusts Harry [13:35] <JaneMarple9> Dumble always believes Harry [13:35] <bemused> it's always struck me as odd that the Head's office is so far removed fromt he students [13:35] <Moriah> True, bemused [13:35] <JaneMarple9> Dumble always trusted Harry too [13:36] <fawkes28> exactly Jane - DD is a smart man [13:36] <Moriah> I do wonder if DD was just coming down by chance or if he had heard Snape and Harry arguing [13:36] <bemused> Maybe a portrait told him.... [13:36] <danae24> Or maybe one of the paintings heard Harry and Snape [13:37] <Moriah> Ah, interesting! [13:37] <MrMcGonagall> that's a good idea about the portraits. [13:37] <danae24> bemused beat me! [13:37] <Expelliarmas> Given that Harry's name ended up in the goblet, DD should have given Harry that password so much sooner [13:37] <bemused> smile [13:37] <Aislinn> he probably should have expie [13:37] <MrMcGonagall> Did you think it fair of Harry trying to get information from Winky when she was drunk? [13:37] <Aislinn> I think he was still seeing Harry as a child at that point though [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> this is a funy question [13:37] <Poet> Definitely. We see DD and Harry use this techique later in the books [13:38] <Poet> *technique [13:38] <Expelliarmas> Yes, actually. Otherwise, how to get info from Winky ... [13:38] <fawkes28> Harry is smart - he needs to do what he has to do [13:38] <NCMcGonagall> Sometimes it is the only way to get information [13:38] <bemused> Not if you stand back and analyse, Mr M, but Harry doesn't do that much [13:38] <futureweasley> I find that extracting information from drunks is much easier than extracting information from people when they are sober. I think that Harry was very cunning in this attempt [13:38] <JaneMarple9> a little unfair [13:38] <JaneMarple9> poor Winky [13:38] <danae24> Yes....... she should help solve the mistery, instead of blocking stuff that would help his ex-master [13:38] <Aislinn> I think that it was - she was perpetually drunk at that point, so it was the only condition he could have asked her in [13:38] <Moriah> I gotta go. It's been fun! [13:38] *** Kneazly has joined #lounge [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that with the situation he was n, he was justified [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Moriah [13:38] <Poet> Better than using veritaserum I think [13:38] <futureweasley> see you Moriah! [13:38] <bemused> lol, aislinn! [13:38] *** Moriah has quit [Bye] [13:38] <harryfreak359> uhm, well, yeah, because they really needed that info, I agree wtih most of you smile [13:38] <JaneMarple9> he knew she'd be more forecoming with info though [13:39] <MrMcGonagall> that's funny because it's true, Aislinn. [13:39] <futureweasley> she does, after all, get through 6 bottles a day [13:39] <fawkes28> well, Harry got info out of Slughorn when he was drunk [13:39] <fawkes28> he is smart [13:39] <Expelliarmas> well, that's true, Aislinn. [13:39] <JaneMarple9> Hermione probably didn't approve at all [13:39] <SevenofNine> Yes, it was okay to get information from her when she ws drunk. She had information that could have saved lives [13:39] <bemused> good point, fawkes [13:39] <JaneMarple9> drunk people are useful! [13:39] <SevenofNine> Including her beloved boss [13:39] <danae24> or knows how to handle drunk people......... maybe he should consider a job as a bartender [13:40] <Aislinn> I'm sure Hermione would have thought that it was unethical [13:40] <MrMcGonagall> When Winky referred to Mr. Crouch managing all by himself, and of him trusting her with his secret–just how much did he rely upon her? Was it her elfin magic which made it possible for her to control Junior? Once she was gone, how did Senior manage Junior? [13:40] <Expelliarmas> they are, Jane, especially in this series [13:40] <SevenofNine> And yet Hermione kept Rita in a jar lol [13:40] <futureweasley> drunk elves are even more useful than Drunk People. I mean, look at Slughorn later... [13:40] <danae24> Well, when she was gone, Junior was gone too [13:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that had Senior not sacked Winky, none of book 4 would have happened [13:40] <MrMcGonagall> I think Winky did help keep Jr. under control. [13:40] <Expelliarmas> I don't think Sr. could manage Jr. after Winky left. He recovered his strength [13:41] <Aislinn> I think you're probably right, sooner [13:41] <bemused> He didn't, Mr M - without her he stood no chance [13:41] <danae24> but did Sr find Jr??? I cannot remember [13:41] <bemused> but I'd love to know more about elf magic... [13:41] <MrMcGonagall> Winky would have leapt to Sr.'s defense when LV and Wormtail showed up on the doorstep. [13:41] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [13:41] <danae24> ohh..... ok [13:41] <fawkes28> the only reason he sacked her was because of his job - BCS did not want to look bad at all [13:41] <Poet> I agree MrMcGonagall [13:42] <danae24> I agree with fawkes........... Winky used her magic to control Junior [13:42] <danae24> again, Sr was just concerned by appearences rather than safety [13:42] <MrMcGonagall> Why did the house-elves literally cover up Winky? Why didn’t they try to help her with her butterbeer addiction? Isn’t there a program for house-elf addictions? [13:42] <Kneazly> how was sr going to control jr when he was at work all day? [13:42] <Aislinn> it is called the blanket program [13:43] <bemused> House elves is not supposed to be addicated... [13:43] <danae24> I dont think there is a Betty Ford clinic for elves [13:43] <JaneMarple9> they were embrassed [13:43] <SoonerGryffindor> they should open up a Sybil Trelawney center and enroll winky [13:43] <fawkes28> the first step is admitting that she has a problem and obviously she wasnt doing that anytime soon wink [13:43] <Aislinn> lol sooner [13:43] <JaneMarple9> like most people are of drunks [13:43] <SevenofNine> Yes Jane. shame [13:43] <MrMcGonagall> She and Trelawney need to start an AA group at Hogwarts. [13:43] <Expelliarmas> Now, now, sybil doesnt have her little problem yet [13:43] <SoonerGryffindor> as Jane says, drunk people can come in handy [13:43] <fawkes28> Hagrid can join them too [13:43] <futureweasley> SPEW - Sober Priorities, Elves and Wizards [13:43] <JaneMarple9> biggrin great idea - Sybil Trelawlney clinic [13:44] <danae24> It's about appearance again.......... elves arent supposed to behave like that..... [13:44] <harryfreak359> lol future [13:44] <JaneMarple9> right next to St Mungos! [13:44] <danae24> The Sybil Trelawney detox clinic [13:44] <bemused> I have to go now - bye everyone, it's been good smile [13:44] <SevenofNine> Yes, the Sybil Trelawney Rehab Center for all magical creatures [13:44] *** bemused left #lounge [] [13:44] <JaneMarple9> bye bemused [13:44] <Expelliarmas> bye bemused [13:44] <SevenofNine> Oooo, she probably wouldn't like that considering her response to "the horse" [13:44] <SoonerGryffindor> bye bemused [13:44] <danae24> they should send Dooby there....... for weed dealing [13:45] <SevenofNine> lol [13:45] <JaneMarple9> smile [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. [13:45] <MrMcGonagall> What did you think of the Nifflers? Would you want one? [13:45] <fawkes28> of course i would! [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they would be handy [13:45] <harryfreak359> yes I would! [13:45] <danae24> No, because they would wreck my house [13:45] <JaneMarple9> yes!! [13:45] <futureweasley> they seem so cuddly, though [13:45] <JaneMarple9> who wouldn't want one??? [13:45] <fawkes28> i would hire hagrid to take care of it for me and just use it when i need it [13:45] <Expelliarmas> No, in the jewelry capitol of Miami it would attack so many people [13:45] <Expelliarmas> my poor niffler would lost its mind [13:45] <SevenofNine> Makes me wonder if we're going to see them again? [13:46] <SevenofNine> Could Harry use one in the horcrux hunt? [13:46] <danae24> they sound useful, and cute, but it would attack many things in the house [13:46] <JaneMarple9> Wreck the house...you'd buy a new one with the gold they dig up!! [13:46] <danae24> that's true Jane! [13:46] <fawkes28> lol Jane [13:46] <harryfreak359> sounds liek a good plan Jade [13:46] <harryfreak359> Jane* [13:46] <danae24> I'll take 2 [13:46] <SevenofNine> You could go into business if they breed like rabbits, danae -------------------- |
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[13:46] <MrMcGonagall> What did you think of Goyle trying to steal Hagrid’s gold? What did you think of Hagrid calling him on it?
[13:46] <JaneMarple9> Sounds like the perfect pet...I want Nifflers to help sniff out the Horcruxes [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> such a Goyle thing to do [13:47] <fawkes28> goyle is a git [13:47] <harryfreak359> hahahha, I loved that he was caught by Hagrid! [13:47] <SevenofNine> I loved it [13:47] <danae24> Goyle is friend of one of the biggest kleptomaniac I know............ [13:47] <Expelliarmas> I was glad Hagrid spotted it and called the gormless moron on it [13:47] <JaneMarple9> just the sort of thing a slytherin would do [13:47] <fawkes28> Hagrid can definitely be right on the money sometimes [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I love the fact that Hagrid got to get back at one of the Slytherines [13:47] <danae24> they are the Klepto gang [13:47] <MrMcGonagall> Such a Slytherin thing to do. Way to go, Hagrid! [13:48] <fawkes28> slytherins are evile [13:48] <SevenofNine> I'll bet Hagrid loved it too [13:48] <SevenofNine> some of them are, fawkes [13:48] <NCMcGonagall> i was impressed that Hagrid had planned to use gold that disappeared. [13:48] <JaneMarple9> go Hagrid! Show the Slytherins!! [13:48] <MrMcGonagall> Why was Ron so upset about the Leprechaun gold he gave Harry for the Omnioculars? Was his comment about having so much gold you don’t notice when some goes missing fair? What are the future implications of Ron’s deep desire for riches? [13:48] <SevenofNine> But I think some of them are not [13:48] <Expelliarmas> it must be in the slytherin credo--if it doesnt belong to you, try and steal it [13:48] <Aislinn> I can understand why Ron would feel that way [13:48] <danae24> LOL Expie!!! [13:48] <fawkes28> Because he honestly thought he was paying Harry back [13:48] <Aislinn> he is so frustrated by his situation [13:49] <SevenofNine> It was further reflection of Ron feeling bad about being poor [13:49] <fawkes28> poor Ron is always going to be self conscious of being poor [13:49] <danae24> Ron feels upset because when he finally feels that he doesnt have to depend on other people's charity, it was fake........ [13:49] <Expelliarmas> Harry had bigger fish to fry that night--his wand was missing and the DEs were marching [13:49] <NCMcGonagall> he can feel positive about his friends until the money issue comes up [13:49] <JaneMarple9> it revealed the importence of lephrechan gold [13:49] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron was upset because for the first time he thought he had the means to pay Harry back, and then realized he didnt [13:49] <Aislinn> I hope that Ron has grown past the issues he struggled with in this book [13:49] <harryfreak359> Very understandable, he feels that he is extremely poor and doesnt like it and is embarrased about it, and also envious of other that are not [13:49] <futureweasley> he had other things to be concerned with...he had never seen a Dark Mark, or a Death Eater prior to this [13:49] <JaneMarple9> or the unimportance of it...it vanishes [13:49] <Aislinn> good point sooner [13:49] <fawkes28> it was something he dealt with growing up and is still dealing with his insecurities [13:50] <SevenofNine> Well, I think the money issue is less an issue now that most of the Weasley kids have moved out. [13:50] <Expelliarmas> actually, they had gone back to their tent after the match and gone to sleep. Harry likely put away that fake gold. Once the riot broke out, he lost track of it [13:50] <JaneMarple9> ron is very insecure [13:50] <SevenofNine> Plus Arthur got a promotion. [13:50] <SevenofNine> So ron feels bad in GoF but things do get better [13:50] <MrMcGonagall> I thought it was kind of a snotty thing for him to say to Harry. [13:51] <SevenofNine> Yes, but neither of them are perfect. [13:51] <Expelliarmas> There may be less Weasleys in the house, but Ron will always be affected by what he noticed he didn't have [13:51] <SevenofNine> And a sign of their friendship is that they get over it [13:51] <NCMcGonagall> our friends are those to whom we can say ugly things and not lose the friendshiip [13:51] <MrMcGonagall> What did you think of Krum’s jealousy? Was he jealous or just concerned? [13:51] <SevenofNine> I agree, Exp. I have a daughter who's very sensitve about that because we were so poor when she was younger. [13:52] <danae24> Jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [13:52] <Expelliarmas> I'm the same way, 7/9 [13:52] <Kneazly> he wants to know where he stands with Hermione [13:52] *** towildhoney has joined #lounge [13:52] <Aislinn> I think he is jealous because he truly likes Hermione [13:52] <futureweasley> I love Krum's jealousy! It makes me very happy that someone opens people's eyes *coughRoncough* [13:52] <NCMcGonagall> I definitely think he was jealous [13:52] <Expelliarmas> he was jealous and wanted to know where he stood [13:52] <SevenofNine> I think Krum is used to getting whichever girl he shows an interest in. [13:52] <towildhoney> hello [13:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I definitely think that Krum was jeoloys [13:52] <JaneMarple9> mmmm bit of both [13:52] <SevenofNine> He's not used to have competition--perceived or not [13:52] <Aislinn> and he sees them together all the time, and knows that Hermione talks about Harry all the time [13:52] <danae24> he likes Hermione, and to get the rumors about her supossed fling with Harry, it got Krum worried [13:52] <MrMcGonagall> Jealous, but not crazy jealous. [13:53] <Kneazly> he respects both Harry and Hermione [13:53] <Expelliarmas> and Krum saw Harry fly--so he sees Harry as more of a threat [13:53] <SevenofNine> healthy jealous, I think [13:53] <SevenofNine> Better than how ron handled it [13:53] <fawkes28> true, expie [13:53] <NCMcGonagall> I gelt more as if he was very shy and the flocks around him embarressed him. Hermione was different. [13:53] <NCMcGonagall> felt [13:53] <SoonerGryffindor> Krum did not hve the benefit of knowing that they had a platonic friendship [13:53] <danae24> way better....... but we know that Ron doesnt have much sense [13:53] <JaneMarple9> he was probably impressed by Harry's flying [13:54] <JaneMarple9> because Harry was a lot younger than him [13:54] <SevenofNine> Yet, danae--I have hope for Ron [13:54] <SevenofNine> And, Exp, that was quite the compliment that krum eventually pays harry about his flying [13:54] <Expelliarmas> it was 7 [13:54] <JaneMarple9> yes [13:54] <danae24> yes [13:54] <towildhoney> I think he's shy [13:54] <JaneMarple9> don't think Krum pays many compliments [13:55] <MrMcGonagall> We know Malfoy’s family uses an eagle owl for its messages. The eagle owl which Harry saw coming to the castle, was that used to communicate with fake Moody about Crouch’s escape? Do you think Lucius was or could have been involved in this plot at all? [13:55] <JaneMarple9> perhaps Krum doesn't have many friends [13:55] <harryfreak359> I don't think that he was, actually. [13:55] *** jmellorrn has joined #lounge [13:55] <danae24> Maybe Lucius did had something to do.......... but I really doubt it........ [13:55] <SevenofNine> I don't think so, [13:55] <Kneazly> lucius seems to hint to much to Draco. I don't think he knew [13:55] <Aislinn> I think it's possible [13:55] <Expelliarmas> Krum has lots of admirers, Jane, but probably not a lot of friends [13:55] <SevenofNine> But he would have known something was up the same way that Karkaroff and Snape knew [13:55] <JaneMarple9> possible to do with Lucius [13:56] <SevenofNine> If he'd been part of the plot. would LV have blasted him later? [13:56] <JaneMarple9> and that is what I meant Expie smile [13:56] <NCMcGonagall> I've been suspicious of that eagle owl especially since Harry dreams of flying on one soon thereafter. [13:56] <SevenofNine> in front of the others? [13:56] <SoonerGryffindor> I had never thought of this, but maybe Lucius was involved [13:56] <Expelliarmas> I think its a definite possibility [13:56] <fawkes28> lucius is a sneaky one [13:56] <danae24> I have my doubts [13:56] <SevenofNine> and Lucius was the one with the questions. [13:56] <MrMcGonagall> From the graveyard exchange, though, I don't think Lucius was in on the plan [13:57] <SevenofNine> It could have been a show, but somehow I doubt it [13:57] <jmellorrn> sorry im late what is lucouis involced in [13:57] <Kneazly> was the eagle owl harry flew on the same owl that flew back to voldemort, with moody's reply [13:57] <danae24> Agree with Mr. M. [13:57] <harryfreak359> Yes, agreed MrM [13:57] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point Mr M [13:57] <Expelliarmas> Lucius had to know something was going on when his Dark Mark began reappearing; none of the DEs should have been surprised [13:58] <NCMcGonagall> that's what I've been wondering Kneazly [13:58] <SevenofNine> they were probably very excited--perhaps a little frightened as well [13:58] <danae24> but the DE's knew about Voldy getting stronger, they didnt know about the whole graveyard deal......... [13:58] <JaneMarple9> Got to go [13:58] <futureweasley> I think that Lucius could have still been able to devise what's up...the Eagle Owl is a reference of the Malfoy's in the rest of the books [13:58] <SevenofNine> Well, I'm outta here. It's been fun! [13:58] <danae24> bye Jane! [13:58] * JaneMarple9 hug everybody hug [13:58] <danae24> bye Seven! [13:58] <jmellorrn> Probably more freightened they abandonded him [13:58] <JaneMarple9>  [13:58] <JaneMarple9> whats topic for PPP tomorrow? [13:58] <harryfreak359> bye Jane [13:58] *** SevenofNine has quit [Bye] [13:59] <SoonerGryffindor> Thank you guys for such a great chat, we will now be ending this chat but the Corner Booth will stay open for a bit to chat about Leaky memories [13:59] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [13:59] <fawkes28> woo hoo for leaky memories! [13:59] <Expelliarmas> Wait Wait Wait [13:59] <danae24> it was a great RG chat.... [13:59] * Poet passes around snack for round two -------------------- |
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