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Ron Weasley - Part 3., Hero, zero, or somewhere in between ?
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post Feb 10 2008, 09:34 AM
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The Ron Weasley thread Part 2 here was closed because it had reached more than 50 pages. You can continue your very interesting discussion on all things Ron in this shiny new Ron Weasley Part 3 thread.

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post Nov 19 2009, 12:34 PM
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I haven't jumped in here for a while, but I thought I'd weigh in again.

There were a lot of times Ron really pissed me off, and he's my favorite character, so I can see his flaws. Did he behave like an idiot in GoF? Certainly. Was I upset with him over his insecurities about Hermione in HBP? Indeed. Was I absolutely shattered when he walked out in DH? Hell, yes. However, the one thing Ron has consistently done after he's massively screwed up, and which redeems him in my book, is his ability to apologize and learn from his mistakes. That shows growth and maturity in my book. A lot of adults never apologize for what they've done, or take responsibility for their actions. Ron does. I'm not saying that excuses his initial behavior, but if Ron never apologized or learned from his mistakes I could understand the vitriol some people have for him. However, that's not the case.

To me, his best action which showed how much Ron had matured and was trying to overcome his insecurities was not when he destroyed the locket (although that was a close second), but when he returned to begin with in DH. For all Ron knew, Harry and Hermione would never want to see him again and would throw him out, but he still went back anyway to face the consequences because he knew that going back to the hunt, and accepting whatever Harry and Hermione threw at him was the right thing to do. That takes a huge amount of courage, maturity, and selflessness to do. Then, to top it off with saving Harry's life, pulling the sword out of the lake, and destroying the locket. All pretty redeeming actions, in my book. That's when Ron stopped being a boy and became a man.

I don't excuse Ron for his behavior due to his insecurities, but his insecurities are certainly an explanation for his behavior. Maybe those of you criticizing him for acting like an idiot because of his insecurites have never done anything stupid as a result of your own insecurities. If so, that's great, and I congratulate you, but it's certainly not the case for most people, including myself. I'm not proud of it, but as you get older you try to get over those insecurities and act like a mature adult. But Ron's not an adult, he's a teenager. And I know I stated this back a long time ago, but teenagers aren't exactly the most reasonable/logical people around. They're still figuring out who they are and what their place is in the world (heck, it can take some people well into their 30s to figure that out), so it's not surprising to me when they behave in an immature way.

All of this is to say that I have empathy for Ron, as I have for Harry and Hermione, neither of whom are close to perfect either, and have their own issues to overcome. Hermione certainly was insecure as well, she just dealt with her insecurities by being an insufferable, insensitive swot. But I forgive her for it, because she is a good person who is trying to do the right thing, and her behavior makes her real. I could name just as many incidences where Hermione was being as awful as Ron, just in a different way, but it wouldn't change how I feel about her - she's my second favorite character after Ron.

I have a soft spot in literature for deeply flawed people who do their best to overcome their issues. That's why I've enjoyed the HP books so much, because the good characters aren't perfect - they're just like real people, who have real fears and insecurities, but are trying to do the right thing overall. If they were perfect, the books would be cliched and boring.


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- rowena r   Ron Weasley - Part 3.   Feb 10 2008, 09:34 AM
- - Kalin   QUOTEThe Crimson Artist: And you are writing from ...   Nov 5 2009, 09:59 PM
- - birdi86   Point is, doing that to a Muggle child would have ...   Nov 6 2009, 09:24 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(birdi86 @ Nov 7 2009, 02:24 AM) Of ...   Nov 8 2009, 12:02 PM
- - harrydavid   Of course, it was very immature of Ron to throw th...   Nov 6 2009, 09:32 PM
- - The Crimson Artist   QUOTE(birdi86)Could have but it didn't. Didn...   Nov 6 2009, 10:59 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 6 2009, 11...   Nov 6 2009, 11:23 PM
- - The Crimson Artist   QUOTEI would agree with your order of dangerous in...   Nov 7 2009, 12:16 AM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 7 2009, 01...   Nov 7 2009, 11:47 AM
- - The Crimson Artist   QUOTEI wasn't commenting on your thoughts, jus...   Nov 7 2009, 01:10 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 7 2009, 06...   Nov 7 2009, 07:44 PM
- - cooncatbob   It the totality of our lives to be judge by how we...   Nov 7 2009, 01:49 PM
- - Sixx_Guns   Sirius_Craic that was probably one of the best exp...   Nov 7 2009, 05:21 PM
- - harrydavid   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 7 2009, 02...   Nov 8 2009, 12:57 PM
- - cooncatbob   Ron is considered "morally reprehensible...   Nov 8 2009, 03:46 PM
- - The Crimson Artist   I need to clarify one small point. I said the act ...   Nov 9 2009, 12:34 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 9 2009, 01...   Nov 9 2009, 11:49 PM
- - The Crimson Artist   QUOTEAlso, the only person I have heard suggest th...   Nov 10 2009, 09:43 AM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(The Crimson Artist @ Nov 10 2009, 10...   Nov 10 2009, 11:52 AM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 10 2009, 04:52 PM)...   Nov 10 2009, 12:56 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(roonwit @ Nov 10 2009, 12:56 PM) Mo...   Nov 10 2009, 02:33 PM
|- - cooncatbob   QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 10 2009, 11:33 AM)...   Nov 10 2009, 09:46 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(cooncatbob @ Nov 11 2009, 02:46 AM)...   Nov 11 2009, 05:17 AM
|- - cooncatbob   QUOTE(roonwit @ Nov 11 2009, 02:17 AM) QU...   Nov 11 2009, 12:40 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(cooncatbob @ Nov 11 2009, 05:40 PM)...   Nov 11 2009, 06:51 PM
- - theweaponwehave   Frankly I think Ron is just awesome. I'm basic...   Dec 28 2009, 09:37 AM
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