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Snape in OOTP, at the end, what really happened ?
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post Mar 21 2008, 02:19 PM
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Even after DH, I'm still puzzled by this. According to Dumbledore Snape alerted the Order "as soon" as he find out where Harry went.

a) even if we assume Snape has no idea who Padfoot is, he knows of the room Harry's been dreaming about whole year (even if he doesn't know it holds the prophecy), so he knows Harry will go to the Ministry.
b) Both Voldemort and DD have their own agenda in this book, so naturally Snape probably knew about both plans.

The question, then, is: if Snape is ultimately on the good side, why did the DE's appear before the Order did, and what seems like hours ahead in time ? Even if it kept Snape spying, it still put 6 teenagers in grave danger, not to mention Harry. It seems to me Snape alerted DE's first, possibly saw 6 kids flying away, waited a few hours, and only then alerted the Order (and even later, DD), and a few well aimed taunts at Sirius made sure he went there too.

Did Snape, as we saw in PoA, let his Sirius emotions overcome him again ?








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post Mar 26 2008, 12:10 PM
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Maime,

Your order of events is off. Snape did not go into the forest until after alerting the Order that Harry was in the DOM. This is a long time after Harry left the Toads office. The order is established when Dumbldore says:
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"When, however, you did not return from your trip into the forest with Dolores Umbridge, Professor Snape grew worried that you still believed Sirius to be a captive of Lord Voldemort’s. He alerted certain Order members at once."

Dumbledore heaved a great sigh and continued, `Alastor Moody, Nymphadora Tonks, Kingsley Shacklebolt and Remus Lupin were at Headquarters when he made contact. All agreed to go to your aid at once. Professor Snape requested that Sirius remain behind, as he needed somebody to remain at Headquarters to tell me what had happened, for I was due there at any moment. In the meantime he, Professor Snape, intended to search the Forest for you.
What was Snape doing during the intervening hours? He was not in the forest. Where and what was he doing?


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post Mar 26 2008, 12:48 PM
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When, however, you did not return from your trip into the forest with Dolores Umbridge, Professor Snape grew worried that you still believed Sirius to be a captive of Lord Voldemort’s. He alerted certain Order members at once."


You are right! I did read sequence wrong.

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What was Snape doing during the intervening hours? He was not in the forest.
I don't know. Smoking? Chatting with Voldemort? He said he went into the forest to look for them. He wasn't on his way to the DOM that is for certain.
I see what you mean, now.
Severus left the office to contact Sirius--so he says. When he returned to Umbrige's office they had gone to the forest. Ginny hexs seems to have have gotten rid of Umbridge's goon squad and nothing indicates that Snape helped Ron, Ginny, Neville, and Luna escape. If he did help them, then why didn't he follow the young people straight to Harry? (Except for Luna and Neville--the others knew he was a double agent and I think Neville and Luna could be trusted or he could have told them to remain behind and just taken Ron.) He could have stopped them from fleeing by assuring Harry Sirius was safe. In fact why is it Ginny, Ron, Neville, and Luna are able to find Harry but Snape does not if he knew they were in the forest?


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LMAO!! smoking thats funny smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif


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I think that Snape litterally ran to Dumbledore's office, because Lily's son was in trouble tongue.gif


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I also think that Snape had an emotional break down, before going to DD


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