Why did Snape hate Neville so much?, A Theory of Mine |
 Apr 14 2008, 11:13 AM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer  Posts: 134 Joined: 6:30pm June 2, 2007 Location: Weasley's Wizard Wheezes  |
A random inspiration struck me the other day and I wanted to see what everyone thought on it.
Snape despises Neville, but we never really know a concrete reason, do we? Well, we know that the prophecy made about Voldemort could have been about either Neville OR Harry. I think that later Snape discovered that it could have been Neville, and resented him for it. If Voldemort had chosen Neville as the correct boy to kill, then Lily would have never died. Thus, Snape resents Neville's continued existence. Thoughts? -------------------- July 15, 2009 -- Half-Blood Prince hits theaters.
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 Apr 14 2008, 11:22 AM
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Quality Quidditch Supplies Test-Flyer Posts: 1,287 Joined: 8:28am April 2, 2007 Location: 1973    |
I like that idea. Snape could have found that out from Dumbledore quite easily I think, and I'm sure the thought that Lily could have survived would have tortured Snape. And I can't think of any other reason for Snape's dislike of Neville, unless it's just because of Neville's character, and the way he struggles sometimes with the magic.
To be honest, I'd never thought about it before, and this idea makes sense and seems to fit. -------------------- "Oh no, not again" -Bowl of Petunias The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy |
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Apr 14 2008, 11:27 AM
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Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007 |
I don't know if Snape hated Neville but he did treat him miserably for 3 books. The reasons can be many: One is the reason you mentioned. The other is that Snape did not believe Neville was really lacking in power but that he refused to control his powers (the melted cauldrons, as well as the run-away broomflight are evidence for much raw but totally uncontrolled powers) and Snape couldn't stand that attitude to being a wizard, which for him was all about control (see Occlumency). Or that Snape found Neville, just like Harry, a disappointment - how could the salvation of the wizarding world depend on such incompetents?
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Apr 14 2008, 11:30 AM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 43 Joined: 8:09am December 25, 2007 |
QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 14 2008, 04:27 PM)  I don't know if Snape hated Neville but he did treat him miserably for 3 books. The reasons can be many: One is the reason you mentioned. The other is that Snape did not believe Neville was really lacking in power but that he refused to control his powers (the melted cauldrons, as well as the run-away broomflight are evidence for much raw but totally uncontrolled powers) and Snape couldn't stand that attitude to being a wizard, which for him was all about control (see Occlumency). Or that Snape found Neville, just like Harry, a disappointment - how could the salvation of the wizarding world depend on such incompetents? sorry but "miserably for 3 books"? i thought tht snape bullied all the way through because it was compulsorary therefore neville never stopped potions? or is tht just my imagination? sorry if im wrong xx |
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Apr 14 2008, 11:32 AM
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Grand Pooh-Bah of the Poking Sticks Emporium  Posts: 6,839 Joined: 3:53pm January 4, 2008 Location: Fine-tuning her Spambot Magnet |
QUOTE(idtotallybeinravenclaw @ Apr 14 2008, 12:13 PM) I think that later Snape discovered that it could have been Neville, and resented him for it. If Voldemort had chosen Neville as the correct boy to kill, then Lily would have never died. Thus, Snape resents Neville's continued existence. I was never under the impression that Snape hated Neville. True, Snape hardly treated Neville kindly in Potions class. I always felt that Snape's treatment of Neville reflected Neville's seeming ineptitude in class; and not based on some type of personal vendetta against Neville. --------------------  |
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Apr 14 2008, 11:35 AM
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Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007 |
QUOTE sorry but "miserably for 3 books"? i thought tht snape bullied all the way through because it was compulsorary therefore neville never stopped potions? Can you find a quote where Snape is mean to Neville in books 4-7? The only interactions between them I can remember in these books is Snape telling Crabbe not to strangle Neville in OOTP and Snape 'punishing' Neville, Ginny and Luna by sending them with Hagrid to the Forbidden Forest in DH. |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:05 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 600 Joined: 6:25am December 9, 2007 Location: Canada |
OoP, Chapter 12 -
(SS): " ... Moronic though some of this class undoubtedly are, I expect you to scrape an 'Acceptable' in your OWL, or suffer my ... displeasure.' His gaze lingered this time on Neville, who gulped." Remark meant specifically for Neville (calling him a moron), accompanied by a threat. (Of course, Snape would never actually physically hurt Neville. But his intention was obviously to instill fear or, at least, anxiety in the boy he was pointedly gazing at. Thus, "suffer my displeasure".) LW This post has been edited by Laura W: Apr 14 2008, 12:06 PM |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:18 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 99 Joined: 3:05pm March 14, 2008 Location: Hogwarts Kitchen |
I think Snape sees Neville as the weakest link...Neville was from the start the kid that everyone bullied ... And since Snape already loathes every House except his own..
Neville makes an easy target... -------------------- Babbling Bumbling Babbons |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:19 PM
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Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007 |
Yes, Snape was not looking forward to preparing Neville to repeating his OWLs if the latter insisted on one in Potions, he just wanted to be rid of him.
(Reminds me of my own Snape-like teacher's remarks: 'This topic will be covered in more detail in 11th grade - by those of you who will make it there.') What I wonder is why Harry and his friends care so much about what Snape had to say about them. My friends and I learned quickly enough to either shrug away that teacher's comments or to laugh at them. |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:28 PM
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Disgruntled House-Elf at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 430 Joined: 5:10pm June 20, 2007 Location: In Kreacher's Cupboard, making the protection of his locket my first priority |
This post has been edited by Lindsay85: Apr 14 2008, 12:28 PM -------------------- "Could've been worse. Remember those birds she set on me?"
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