Why did Snape hate Neville so much?, A Theory of Mine |
 Apr 14 2008, 12:44 PM
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Grand Pooh-Bah of the Poking Sticks Emporium  Posts: 6,840 Joined: 3:53pm January 4, 2008 Location: Fine-tuning her Spambot Magnet  |
QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 14 2008, 01:19 PM)  What I wonder is why Harry and his friends care so much about what Snape had to say about them. My friends and I learned quickly enough to either shrug away that teacher's comments or to laugh at them. Children and adolescents react very differently to teachers who use negative reinforcement as a teaching method in order to get their point accross. You and your friends learned that it was better to ignore said teacher by using humor and laughter as a defense mechanism. Instead of using the former method, Harry immediately reacts in a very typical manner by way of "what have I done to deserve this treatment?"; "why am I being singled out?". Harry's attitude very quickly evolves from surprise, and indignation, to anger and hatred. --------------------  |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:53 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 600 Joined: 6:25am December 9, 2007 Location: Canada |
"What I wonder is why Harry and his friends care so much about what Snape had to say about them. My friends and I learned quickly enough to either shrug away that teacher's comments or to laugh at them."
Whereas I was absolutely mortified if a teacher criticized me in front of the class! Not only in elementary school, but also in high school and in college. I felt like sinking into the ground and never coming out. I was both embarrassed and humiliated if a teacher so much as said, "Your hair is a mess today, Laura" or "You need to get your grades up, Laura" in front of my classmates. And I am not exaggerating. Even in college. |
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Apr 14 2008, 02:42 PM
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Cauldron Bottom Measurer Posts: 134 Joined: 6:30pm June 2, 2007 Location: Weasley's Wizard Wheezes |
QUOTE(lirene @ Apr 14 2008, 10:44 AM) QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 14 2008, 01:19 PM) What I wonder is why Harry and his friends care so much about what Snape had to say about them. My friends and I learned quickly enough to either shrug away that teacher's comments or to laugh at them. Children and adolescents react very differently to teachers who use negative reinforcement as a teaching method in order to get their point accross. You and your friends learned that it was better to ignore said teacher by using humor and laughter as a defense mechanism. Instead of using the former method, Harry immediately reacts in a very typical manner by way of "what have I done to deserve this treatment?"; "why am I being singled out?". Harry's attitude very quickly evolves from surprise, and indignation, to anger and hatred. Well, I also think it was the general cruelty of Snape's remarks. For example, when Hermione's teeth get hit by the spell and Snape just says, "I see no difference"--that's not harsh, or even mean, that's downright cruel. Why I think Snape hated Neville was because of how utterly cruel he was, in the same way he was cruel to Harry, who he was trying so desperately to hate. -------------------- July 15, 2009 -- Half-Blood Prince hits theaters.
November 2010 -- Deathly Hallows, Part One hits theaters. July 2011 -- Deathly Hallows, Part Two hits theaters. Proud to admit that Harry changed my life. |
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Apr 14 2008, 09:50 PM
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Knight Bus Driver in Training Posts: 555 Joined: 2:51pm April 12, 2008 Location: Rattling inside my own head...  |
Personally I think Snape hated Neville so much because one: he was a Gryffindor two: he was terrible at potions three: MAYBE Snape knew Neville's gran from somewhere... or perhaps it was because of Neville's boggart.. hehe
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Apr 23 2008, 05:34 PM
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Owner of D's Favorite Avatar! Posts: 3,058 Joined: 10:59am June 8, 2005 Location: Exile on Main St |
I think three reasons why he disliked Neville. One, he wasn't in Slythern. Which I know is petty, but every other house is guilty of it. Two, Snape is a very skilled wizard. I think the way he looks at it, if you're not up to his expected skill level, your not worthy of his time. Three, he was bullied at school and became bittered by it, that he himself turned into one.
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Apr 23 2008, 05:40 PM
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Quality Quidditch Supplies Test-Flyer Posts: 1,283 Joined: 4:05am September 25, 2005 Location: Submitting an application at Weasleys Wizarding Weezes |
Maybe I am forgetting soemthing from the series, but I think Snape didnt like Neville because he knows that Nevills family could have bee the ones killed, not Harrys and Lily could still be alive.
-------------------- "Now, Harry you must know all about Muggles, tell me, what exactly is the function of a rubber duck?" Arthur Weasley
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Apr 23 2008, 05:44 PM
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Daily Prophet Photographer Posts: 888 Joined: 6:35pm April 4, 2008 Location: Great White North |
QUOTE(Bradley @ Apr 23 2008, 05:40 PM) Maybe I am forgetting soemthing from the series, but I think Snape didnt like Neville because he knows that Nevills family could have bee the ones killed, not Harrys and Lily could still be alive. Besides the fact that Snape was sarcastic and verbally cruel I think you are bang on. -------------------- '- yet sadly, accidental rudeness occurs alarmingly often,'.....Albus Dumbledore |
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Apr 23 2008, 06:02 PM
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Gambol and Japes' Research Department Posts: 1,387 Joined: 6:16pm June 18, 2007 Location: Gryffindor Quidditch Team tryouts  |
QUOTE(idtotallybeinravenclaw @ Apr 14 2008, 04:13 PM) A random inspiration struck me the other day and I wanted to see what everyone thought on it. Snape despises Neville, but we never really know a concrete reason, do we? Well, we know that the prophecy made about Voldemort could have been about either Neville OR Harry. I think that later Snape discovered that it could have been Neville, and resented him for it. If Voldemort had chosen Neville as the correct boy to kill, then Lily would have never died. Thus, Snape resents Neville's continued existence. Thoughts? very interesting theory. i think i agree with you partially. i always saw snape as totally evil and cruel (esp. after HBP, i was one who did NOT support severus snape) but when i read DH i got a different view of him. i still dislike him, but not as much. so yeah, a a bit (or even most) of his bitterness towards neville can be explained by the fact that if LV had chosen him Lily still would be alive. QUOTE(Lord Montymort @ Apr 23 2008, 10:34 PM) I think three reasons why he disliked Neville. One, he wasn't in Slythern. Which I know is petty, but every other house is guilty of it. Two, Snape is a very skilled wizard. I think the way he looks at it, if you're not up to his expected skill level, your not worthy of his time. Three, he was bullied at school and became bittered by it, that he himself turned into one. the rest of snape's hate of - or obvious distaste for - neville is bc of the reasons you said, Lord Montymort. especially number 3. he was the one picked on by the marauders (which intensifies idtotallybeinravenclaw's opinion, bc then the whole lily/james/snape triangle would be thrown in the middle, thus reinforcing the idea that, if voldy had gone after neville, then lily wouldnt be dead) and since he couldnt do anything about it at the time now he's taking his feeling off on neville, and also harry and his friends, as someone else stated: snape was eager to be unfriendly (to say the least) to anyone who was friends with harry. sorry if im not making sense, just typed that all real fast, i hope you can understand it 
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Apr 23 2008, 06:02 PM
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Owner of D's Favorite Avatar! Posts: 3,058 Joined: 10:59am June 8, 2005 Location: Exile on Main St |
Ah well spotted! I don't know why I didn't think along like thatline. But, then again that doesn't explain his attitude to Hermione and other students. Perhaps Snape was just angry at everything. I mean he lost the women he loved, and that he had slight involvement in. So he just hated the world maybe.
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Apr 24 2008, 12:29 AM
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Eeylops Owl Cage Cleaner Posts: 213 Joined: 10:17pm January 23, 2007 Location: Through the Looking Glass  |
I'm not so sure Snape hated Neville particularly. He didn't like his students generally and especially not the Gryffindors for obvious reasons. Gryffindor took Lily from him in more ways than one. Neville became his particular target for bullying because like all bullies he wanted to attack the weakest in that loathed pack What a wonderful irony then that it was Neville who unwittingly avenged his death by killing Nagini. If Snape had been looking down on that scene from the Great Hogwarts in the sky - what would he have been thinking?
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