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Why all the Snape love? Is it a female thing?, Sex symbol or greasy git?
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post Jul 23 2008, 07:44 AM
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I've been noticing something for a while now and was wondering if anyone else has noticed it. In any debate on Snape there are always those who defend him against all criticism. It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of his supporters are women. Obviously, a user name doesn't automatically indicate a person's sex, but of those we do know, this seems to be the case. There are exceptions to this, of course. There are men who will justify any action of Snape's and there are women who are quite critical of him. But it is undeniable that more women sympathize with him than do men.

I have a friend who thinks this is because of the "bad boy syndrome." Many women are attracted to the bad guy. They believe that if they had had the opportunity they could have "fixed" him and he would have changed for her. I don't know if this is the case for some women, but I really think that it is too simplistic an answer. I have learned over the years that men and women definitely think differently. Women are from Venus and men are from Mars. Men tend to think rationally using logic and women tend to think using emotions and feelings.

So what do you think? Why do most women seem to defend Snape while most men are critical?


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post Sep 11 2009, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Wendall @ Sep 11 2009, 10:16 AM) *
I would have said that living in the past and wallowing in regrets was exactly what Snape did.

The mere sight of Harry seemed to trigger memories of James and make Snape bitter and hateful with desire for revenge. This despite the fact that Snape probably wouldn't have seen James in about 15 years when he first met Harry.

He refused to let go of grudges against James, Sirius and Lupin, despite the fact that so much time had gone by since their Hogwarts rivalry.

He was obsessively devoted to the memory of a woman who he never had any romantic relationship with, and who's friendship he lost over 15 years before we first see him.

He also seems to be haunted by regret over losing Lily's friendship and over her death.


No, he hasn't been curled up in bed crying for twenty odd years. But that doesn't mean he's moved on, or lead a healthy, normal life. He's cruel, bitter, vengeful and slightly sadistic. He is, IMO, a very horrible person, despite all the good things he has done in his life. And it all seems to stem from a past that he stubbornly refuses to forget the past.



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QUOTE(SeveraSphyrna @ Sep 11 2009, 05:15 PM) *
Agreed Wendall, though I wouldn't characterize Snape as a "very horrible person" considering the company he kept and comparing his to the behavior of the loads of evil-doers in the series. On a "horrible" scale of 0 to 10, I'd give him a 6, which is certainly above average, but not quite a very.
I would never attempt to change your opinion, but it might be important to note that Jo herself has called him "a deeply horrible person." He may be fascinating. He may be intriguing. He is surely the most compelling fictional character I have ever encountered. But, he was clearly a deeply horribly human being.


I take your points absolutely, Wendall. Is Severus haunted by his past? Absolutely. I was merely pointing out that the character did what is terribly difficult for many people, fictional or real.....and that's putting one foot in front of the other, carrying on, and trying to be better than before after making egregious, irrevocable mistakes. smile.gif I do think, in DH, we see Severus "shut down" when he visits Dumbledore after Lily's death. He might well have stayed in that state for a very long time...and never really recovered....had not Albus shown him the long, hard road to redemption. I'll leave the issue of "how horrible was Severus" to another posting, but I think, in some ways, he is, as harrydavid wrote, fascinating, intriguing, and compelling. Why? Because he does manage to move forward despite the weight of the past. And that's an admirable thing to do, which makes his character such a draw.


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- harrydavid   Why all the Snape love? Is it a female thing?   Jul 23 2008, 07:44 AM
- - lilmisssnape   2 words THE VOICE i think Snape/Alan Rickman has ...   Sep 10 2009, 02:23 PM
|- - Circe'sSeddy   QUOTE(lilmisssnape @ Sep 10 2009, 03:23 P...   Sep 10 2009, 03:16 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Circe'sSeddy @ Sep 10 2009, 09...   Sep 10 2009, 04:34 PM
|- - Circe'sSeddy   QUOTE(Wendall @ Sep 10 2009, 05:34 PM) QU...   Sep 10 2009, 04:57 PM
|- - SeveraSphyrna   QUOTE(Wendall @ Sep 10 2009, 03:34 PM) QU...   Sep 10 2009, 07:45 PM
|- - Circe'sSeddy   QUOTE(SeveraSphyrna @ Sep 10 2009, 08:45 ...   Sep 10 2009, 08:34 PM
|- - finley   QUOTE(SeveraSphyrna @ Sep 11 2009, 01:45 ...   Sep 11 2009, 11:51 AM
|- - lilmisssnape   QUOTE(finley @ Sep 11 2009, 12:51 PM) QUO...   Sep 11 2009, 04:00 PM
|- - SeveraSphyrna   QUOTE(lilmisssnape @ Sep 11 2009, 03:00 P...   Sep 11 2009, 05:15 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(SeveraSphyrna @ Sep 11 2009, 05:15 ...   Sep 11 2009, 05:50 PM
- - Kalin   QUOTESeveraSphyrna: Not sure if a man would have m...   Sep 11 2009, 01:21 AM
- - wickedboy   I think that the number of people, male or female,...   Sep 11 2009, 03:31 AM
- - fidelia   Fascinating thoughts, everyone! As for Severu...   Sep 11 2009, 08:38 AM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(fidelia @ Sep 11 2009, 02:38 PM) Fa...   Sep 11 2009, 09:16 AM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(fidelia @ Sep 11 2009, 07:21 PM) I...   Sep 11 2009, 07:33 PM
|- - wickedboy   QUOTE(fidelia @ Sep 11 2009, 08:21 PM) .....   Sep 11 2009, 10:54 PM
- - wandlorean   Well, I am a female who loves Snape, but I'm a...   Sep 11 2009, 08:52 PM
|- - fidelia   QUOTE(wandlorean @ Sep 11 2009, 09:52 PM)...   Sep 11 2009, 09:42 PM
|- - wandlorean   QUOTE(fidelia @ Sep 11 2009, 10:42 PM) *r...   Sep 11 2009, 11:41 PM
- - paint it Black   QUOTE(wickedboy @ Sep 11 2009, 11:54 PM) ...   Sep 12 2009, 03:42 AM
- - fidelia   QUOTE(wickedboy @ Sep 11 2009, 11:54 PM) ...   Sep 14 2009, 08:57 AM
- - wandlorean   QUOTE(paint it Black @ Sep 12 2009, 04:42...   Sep 17 2009, 11:42 AM
- - Mydrgnfly   I'm new to the boards. Just found this thread....   Sep 17 2009, 12:56 PM
- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   Hey, Severa Sphyrna, I'm sorry it took me like...   Sep 30 2009, 02:03 AM
- - wickedboy   QUOTEMrs_Linnea_Snape Also, nobody condemns Harry ...   Oct 11 2009, 08:52 AM
- - celven1000   Of course it is a female thing and I don't lik...   Oct 15 2009, 03:21 PM
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