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Snape's Worst Memory - Part 3, The discussion continues...
Maime the Hunter
post Jul 26 2007, 08:36 PM
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Snape was sixteen--seems to be DE initiation age. Which is probably why he couldn't deny that he was lining up to join the DE when Lily conrnered him--it wasn't 'what" he called her, it was that she could see that every thing people were saying about him, the Dark Arts and Voldemort was true:
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"None of my friends can undersand why I even talk to you. You and precious little Death Eater friend--you see, you don't even deny it! You dont even deny that's what you're all aiming to be. YOu can't wait to join You-KHow_who, can you?"
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It wasn't about liking James more--because she only liked Snape as a friend. As someone on the Sugarquill said the choice was Snape as a friend or no Snape. Because of what Snape had chosen she could not allow herself to be friends with him.

And I have to disagree that he didn't think it made a difference when they were nine.

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Does it make a difference, being Muggle-born?"
Snape hesitated. His black eyes, eager in the greenish gloom, moved over the pale face, the dark red hair.
"No," he said. "It doesn't make any difference."
It sounds like he knew others, possibly even his Mum would think there was a difference, but it didn't make a difference to Him.

And I think the memory wasn't just bad because he called her a Mudblood. I think he could see like everyone else, that Lily in spite of everything was very attracted to the Arrogant Toerag and that made him mad. He saw it earlier but she denied it. See page674 in the USA edition.
I think he was angry at Sirius because he thinks Sirius told Lily James save his life, but I'm beginning to think it was Lupin who told Lily about James saving Snape's life and didn't tell Snape this until after Sirius died.


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Gllysa
post Jan 20 2008, 03:08 PM
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Snape's worst memory was calling Lily a mudblood and losing her friendship forever. This left the door wide open for someone else to come into her life(James).That's why he hates Harry so much. Harry reminds Snape of his mistake. sad.gif
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- Maime the Hunter   Snape's Worst Memory - Part 3   Jul 26 2007, 08:36 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEDumbledore wasn't concerned that Voldemor...   Oct 5 2007, 05:04 PM
- - Dobby-oshi   QUOTE(Oryx @ Oct 5 2007, 06:04 PM) QUOTED...   Oct 5 2007, 10:27 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEHe could have done that by directly summoning...   Oct 5 2007, 11:55 PM
|- - Maime the Hunter   QUOTE(Oryx @ Oct 5 2007, 10:55 PM) QUOTEH...   Oct 7 2007, 01:59 PM
- - deathlyhallowsizbrillant   i agree with the person who said how would he be a...   Oct 6 2007, 01:13 PM
- - Dobby-oshi   QUOTE(Oryx @ Oct 6 2007, 12:55 AM) But we...   Oct 7 2007, 12:42 AM
- - Temerarie   QUOTEI think Voldemort is only interested to spy o...   Oct 7 2007, 09:20 PM
- - AlexisTedesko   Poor Snape. So entirely fascinated with the Dark A...   Jan 31 2008, 03:18 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(AlexisTedesko @ Jan 31 2008, 08:18 ...   Jan 31 2008, 03:37 PM
|- - Lilly   QUOTE(AlexisTedesko @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 A...   Mar 4 2008, 11:26 AM
- - DigificWriter   The 'Mudblood incident' was by no means th...   Feb 5 2008, 05:04 PM
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- - wickedboy   That friendship was headed for disaster from momen...   Mar 9 2008, 05:03 AM
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- - Maime the Hunter   I agree with Wickedboy: QUOTESee that was called S...   Mar 9 2008, 11:23 AM
- - wickedboy   Was that a Caedus joke? lol. If so, funny funny,...   Mar 9 2008, 04:21 PM
- - Alkari   QUOTEi think that this was snapes worst memory bec...   Mar 9 2008, 04:53 PM
- - Lilly   QUOTEThere had obviously been many stresses in the...   Mar 13 2008, 04:29 PM
- - mermish   I plugged in my old computer and saw this on the t...   Apr 18 2008, 10:13 AM
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- - wickedboy   I loved the chapter because we were finally seeing...   Jun 22 2008, 04:04 AM
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