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Snape's Worst Memory - Part 3, The discussion continues...
Maime the Hunter
post Jul 26 2007, 08:36 PM
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Snape was sixteen--seems to be DE initiation age. Which is probably why he couldn't deny that he was lining up to join the DE when Lily conrnered him--it wasn't 'what" he called her, it was that she could see that every thing people were saying about him, the Dark Arts and Voldemort was true:
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"None of my friends can undersand why I even talk to you. You and precious little Death Eater friend--you see, you don't even deny it! You dont even deny that's what you're all aiming to be. YOu can't wait to join You-KHow_who, can you?"
676

It wasn't about liking James more--because she only liked Snape as a friend. As someone on the Sugarquill said the choice was Snape as a friend or no Snape. Because of what Snape had chosen she could not allow herself to be friends with him.

And I have to disagree that he didn't think it made a difference when they were nine.

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Does it make a difference, being Muggle-born?"
Snape hesitated. His black eyes, eager in the greenish gloom, moved over the pale face, the dark red hair.
"No," he said. "It doesn't make any difference."
It sounds like he knew others, possibly even his Mum would think there was a difference, but it didn't make a difference to Him.

And I think the memory wasn't just bad because he called her a Mudblood. I think he could see like everyone else, that Lily in spite of everything was very attracted to the Arrogant Toerag and that made him mad. He saw it earlier but she denied it. See page674 in the USA edition.
I think he was angry at Sirius because he thinks Sirius told Lily James save his life, but I'm beginning to think it was Lupin who told Lily about James saving Snape's life and didn't tell Snape this until after Sirius died.


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- Maime the Hunter   Snape's Worst Memory - Part 3   Jul 26 2007, 08:36 PM
- - harrydavid   QUOTE(roonwit @ Nov 8 2008, 05:21 PM) QUO...   Nov 8 2008, 11:29 PM
- - Lilly   QUOTEI don't think it is an if question becaus...   Nov 10 2008, 01:44 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(Lilly @ Nov 10 2008, 07:44 PM) QUOT...   Nov 10 2008, 06:30 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 10 2008, 11:30 P...   Nov 11 2008, 07:18 AM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(Wendall @ Nov 11 2008, 07:18 AM) QU...   Nov 16 2008, 02:01 AM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 16 2008, 07...   Nov 16 2008, 12:45 PM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(Wendall @ Nov 16 2008, 12:45 PM) QU...   Nov 16 2008, 07:28 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 17 2008, 12...   Nov 17 2008, 09:53 AM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(Wendall @ Nov 17 2008, 09:53 AM) QU...   Nov 17 2008, 08:53 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 18 2008, 02...   Nov 17 2008, 11:44 PM
- - maenad   QUOTEIt says so very clearly on page 646 of the Am...   Nov 16 2008, 04:18 AM
- - harrydavid   I am having a difficult time figuring out what the...   Nov 17 2008, 11:26 AM
- - Wendall   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 18 2008, 01...   Nov 18 2008, 04:39 AM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(Wendall @ Nov 18 2008, 10:39 AM) QU...   Nov 18 2008, 12:18 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 18 2008, 05:18 P...   Nov 18 2008, 01:41 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(Wendall @ Nov 18 2008, 07:41 PM) QU...   Nov 18 2008, 05:44 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 18 2008, 10:44 P...   Nov 19 2008, 09:07 AM
- - lirene   Hello everyone I will kindly remind everyone to ...   Nov 18 2008, 12:08 PM
|- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(lirene @ Nov 18 2008, 12:08 PM) If ...   Nov 18 2008, 12:32 PM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 18 2008, 12...   Nov 18 2008, 08:26 PM
|- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 18 2008, 08...   Nov 19 2008, 09:43 AM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 19 2008, 09...   Nov 20 2008, 01:03 AM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 20 2008, 06...   Nov 20 2008, 05:36 AM
|- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 20 2008, 01...   Nov 20 2008, 10:42 AM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 20 2008, 11...   Nov 20 2008, 11:25 AM
|- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 20 2008, 11:25 AM)...   Nov 20 2008, 12:56 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 20 2008, 01...   Nov 20 2008, 02:47 PM
||- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 20 2008, 02:47 PM)...   Nov 20 2008, 05:27 PM
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|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 20 2008, 05...   Nov 20 2008, 05:11 PM
- - lirene   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 18 2008, 05:44 P...   Nov 18 2008, 06:14 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(lirene @ Nov 19 2008, 12:14 AM) QUO...   Nov 18 2008, 06:29 PM
|- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 18 2008, 06:29 P...   Nov 18 2008, 09:39 PM
|- - cooncatbob   So a classic A and B would be Hermione and Luna, R...   Nov 18 2008, 09:47 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 19 2008, 03...   Nov 18 2008, 11:02 PM
- - lirene   QUOTE(SnapetheGood @ Nov 18 2008, 06:29 P...   Nov 18 2008, 06:42 PM
|- - SnapetheGood   QUOTE(lirene @ Nov 19 2008, 12:42 AM) QUO...   Nov 18 2008, 06:52 PM
- - maenad   QUOTEYou can't believe that he was called that...   Nov 19 2008, 01:42 AM
|- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(maenad @ Nov 19 2008, 01:42 AM) I t...   Nov 19 2008, 11:16 AM
- - innkeeper_tom   *puts on moderator's hat* Hi guys! While...   Nov 19 2008, 03:06 AM
- - Dobby-oshi   Love to read maenad's analysis. Very insightfu...   Nov 19 2008, 11:08 AM
- - Lilly   As far as whether or not the memory that Harry saw...   Nov 20 2008, 06:54 AM
- - Dobby-oshi   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 20 2008, 01...   Nov 20 2008, 10:18 AM
- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTEI dont understand why the SWM scene is being ...   Nov 20 2008, 09:18 PM
|- - roonwit   QUOTE(Mrs_Linnea_Snape @ Nov 21 2008, 02...   Nov 21 2008, 05:52 AM
- - maenad   QUOTEYes, I do agree that Snape did not remove his...   Nov 20 2008, 10:46 PM
- - wickedboy   That doesn't make sense to me. So what if Vol...   Nov 21 2008, 04:31 PM
- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTESWM was one of the double-agent memories... ...   Nov 21 2008, 06:24 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 21 2008, 07...   Nov 21 2008, 10:41 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 21 2008, 11...   Nov 22 2008, 09:03 AM
|- - Hannibal Granger   Mrs. Snape: Responding to your last, first: i...   Nov 22 2008, 02:05 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 22 2008, 07...   Nov 22 2008, 04:03 PM
- - Mrs_Linnea_Snape   QUOTE...are you saying that if Snape had removed h...   Nov 22 2008, 12:39 AM
- - lirene   Hi everyone I want to remind all of you again ab...   Nov 23 2008, 01:18 PM
- - Eva Hedwig   Wendall: Harry had a good reason to go after the...   Nov 23 2008, 05:56 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Eva Hedwig @ Nov 23 2008, 10:56 PM)...   Nov 23 2008, 06:58 PM
- - Hannibal Granger   Loose ends QUOTE...the soul bit connection betwee...   Nov 26 2008, 12:14 PM
|- - harrydavid   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 26 2008, 01...   Nov 26 2008, 01:03 PM
||- - Hannibal Granger   QUOTE(harrydavid @ Nov 26 2008, 01:03 PM)...   Nov 27 2008, 01:36 PM
||- - Wendall   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 27 2008, 06...   Nov 27 2008, 05:06 PM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Hannibal Granger @ Nov 26 2008, 05...   Nov 26 2008, 04:11 PM
- - Eva Hedwig   I agree with Hannibal Granger thinking too that: ...   Nov 28 2008, 12:01 AM
|- - Wendall   QUOTE(Eva Hedwig @ Nov 28 2008, 05:01 AM)...   Nov 28 2008, 07:39 AM
|- - wickedboy   QUOTE(Eva Hedwig @ Nov 28 2008, 12:01 AM)...   Dec 12 2008, 02:58 AM
- - Amelley   Oh, this is one of my fave scenes in the Order of ...   Sep 21 2009, 10:29 PM
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