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Snape's Worst Memory, A window into the past
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fawkes28
post Apr 30 2007, 11:58 AM
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Snape’s Worst Memory allows us to glimpse in a window into the past.

Here is how the events unfolded outside after the exam…
*Sirius says that he is bored
*James points out Snape and calls out to him, “All right, Snivellus.”
*Snape reaches into his robe to grab his wand.
*James uses Expelliarmus, Impedimenta, and Scourgify against Snape.
*James mocks Snape while Lily defends him
*Snape uses a curse against James which leaves a gash on his face.
*James curses Snape by turning him upside down to reveal Snape’s graying underpants.
*Snape calls Lily a mudblood
*James threatens to take off Snape’s pants


Now that you have the facts, let's analyze their actions listed above and decide: Who was more at fault: James or Snape?

What impact, if any, does this scene have on your opinions regarding any of the characters?

In the overall scheme of Snape and the Marauder's antagonistic relationship, who was likely most at fault?


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post Jun 1 2007, 06:59 PM
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I never claimed that Snape did not carry a grudge against Lupin. I know Snape holds a grudge, but is his grudge against Lupin greater than it is against Sirius, James, or Peter? No. (I hope you didn't type in all those quotes just for me, wow!)

I pointed out that Snape did not target Lupin, as a weak link among the Marauders.

I was responding to this point,
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But there is plenty of evidence that Snape was quite happy to get people expelled including Harry, in particular, and when he was at school, Remus Lupin. There is evidence in SWM, itself, that Snape was onto Lupin's werewolfism by SWM, that the marauders were actually discussing the DADA paper's werewolf question only minutes prior to Snape's examining that DADA paper so intently, that Dumbledore asked Snape to keep Lupin's lycanthropy secret, because in yet another attempt of Snape's to spy on Lupin that Black told him how to get past the Whomping Willow, which was as much a betrayal of Lupin as it might have caused injury to Snape, and might be the real reason why later on, Lupin was out of the picture when it came to being secretkeeper.


This is a minor point, but I think it is significant that not only is there no evidence that Snape conspired to get Lupin alone tossed, but he also kept his secret until the end of Harry's 3rd year, almost twenty years later. I have been exploring this as a possible example of his own ability, if not eagerness, to bury the hatchet. If he hadn't been so wrong about Sirius... I don't think Snape could ever be friends or even really trust Remus, the shadow of Sirius and James is too large. Being wrong about Sirius simply reinforced his weaker position, one that after all these years he hasn't been able to overcome.

The interpretation that Snape was sat nearby to overhear the conversation after an exam concerning lycanthropy is one I considered for a few months on Leaky. I think it could go either way, but I think ultimately that we were meant to see an otherwise vulnerable and unpopular student humiliated... and the conversation is coincidental.

I also understand the arguments, and have considered the possiblilty, that SWM was a set-up (except the ones claiming that Snape knew where Montague was but decided to wait to help him until he could use it as an interruption- this one I don't believe at all), but how do you explain Snape's fury, second only in degree to what we saw in PoA... It seems more similar to his demonstrations of shock and outrage- like his confrontation with the trio and RL and SB, than his reactions to sabotaging Harry, like when he lets Harry's potion vial shatter in OotP.


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