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Snape's task to reach the Stone, A continuity error with Snape's task?

melj1213 View Member Profile	Jan 2 2007, 06:12 PM Post #1
Scribbulus Everchanging Inks Changer Posts: 1,321 Joined: 4:10pm September 28, 2005 Location: Sat in the Leaky Cauldron with Harry, Ron Hermione, Ginny, Neville and Luna - drinking Butterbeer!!!	I was answering a different thread on the tasks and I thought of something strange, that i had never thought of before. Snape's task on the way to the Stone, is a logic riddle, and they have to work out which bottle to drink from to advance through the black flames. However, the bottle Harry needed to drink from to advance onwards was the smallest one, and barely had enough for a mouthful and we are told that Harry drained it. But my problem is: if that bottle was full when Harry drank from it, how did Quirrell get through? We know he had to complete all of the other tasks from the clues left behind - a harp in Fluffy's chamber, the key with the bent wing in the key chamber, the knocked out Troll, so why was the potion left for Harry instead of an empty bottle? I only thought about this a short time ago, but it has been bugging me ever since....can anyone think of a resonable explaination for it? -------------------- My name is Jean Valjean! And I'm Javert. Do not forget me 24601! Long live Les Mis! Just because you've got the emotional range of a teaspoon, doesn't mean we all have!--Hermione

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Hatun punchaw View Member Profile	Apr 29 2007, 02:15 PM Post #2
Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 615 Joined: 12:38pm January 26, 2007 Location: Sacsahuamán's Magical Academy	If a bottle can be bewitched to allow its content to refill wouldn't be too easy to get an infinite amount of Philosopher's stone elixir with only needing to use it once? I bewitch a bottle with a "permanent refilling" enchantment & then brew the elixir into it. The result: infinite elixir. I just destroy the stone & nobody else can have any more... of course there's a risk for the bottle to be stolen or broken. Well, repeat 7 or 13 or 23 or 100 times & put the bottles in many secures different places... this will in turn be even better if combined with just one horcrux & burying it in Mars. So, my conclusion that there's not such thing as a "permanent refilling" enchantment (at least not yet... and of course if it was, it should have been invented by Snape). There's an alternate non-brute force way to get pass through the potions riddle without actually solving it. Just by carring a bag of bezoars... maybe it be hard to guess what the tasks will be. But maybe if you don't want to solve it, you just can go back from where you were coming. So, eat a bezoar then drink a potion... if it's poison, you'll be safe; if it's wine, it won't matter; if it's the potion which takes you back, you return & follow with the next; it's just a matter of time to find the potion which takes you forward. Maybe the previous tasks could be resettable... but, as far as i can conclude, not the potions riddle. So, either Snape put extra doses for the forward potion or Quirrel found another way to go on (without the bezoar trick) just by counter-charming the flames. This post has been edited by Hatun punchaw: Apr 29 2007, 07:11 PM

samscool View Member Profile	Apr 29 2007, 04:14 PM Post #3
Being Eaten by the Pea Soup Posts: 22 Joined: 4:04pm April 27, 2007 Location: UK	QUOTE(Hatun punchaw @ Apr 29 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]1199325[/snapback] If a bottle can be bewitched to allow its content to refill wouldn't be too easy to get an infinite amount of Philosopher's stone exilir with only needing to use it once? I bewitch a bottle with a "permanent refilling" enchantment & then brew the elixir into it. The result: infinite elixir. I just destroy the stone & nobody else can have any more... of course there's a risk for the bottle to be stolen or broken. Well, repeat 7 or 13 or 23 or 100 times & put the bottles in many secures different places... this will in turn be even better if combined with just one horcrux & burying it in Mars. I think that refilling bottle charms such as are used at the Hogwart's feasts only work if the amount of potion/drink already exists, I think it's probably only really a transportation charm. So perhaps, the bottle could refill if Snape made enough potion. I wonder what actually happens to the rest of the potions they vanish at the ends of lessons? For example, all that Felix Felicis that Slughorn vanished at the end of the lesson it was in... perhaps he put it all into a self-refilling bottle? I suppose then they are self-refilling bottles but they will run out in the end.

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melj1213 Snape's task to reach the Stone Jan 2 2007, 06:12 PM

xenawarriorprincess Thankyou for taking the time to do that, i was alw... Jan 6 2007, 02:46 PM

fawkes28 This is a modly reminder to stay focused on the to... Jan 6 2007, 06:42 PM

jammi567 for all we know, the bottles could've been bla... Jan 6 2007, 06:52 PM

melj1213 That's kinda what I thought, because it would ... Jan 6 2007, 07:04 PM

Dutch_HP_fan i think the task resets itself just like the chess... Jan 7 2007, 03:29 PM

melj1213 That was another part of my thinking - if Quirrell... Jan 7 2007, 04:23 PM

MarkPotter i think that Snapes Potions were there to confuse ... Jan 8 2007, 12:58 AM

MarkPotter So The Chess pieces were, resetable, i think that ... Jan 16 2007, 02:43 AM

lydsr QUOTE(MarkPotter @ Jan 16 2007, 07:43 AM)... Jan 16 2007, 07:08 AM

The Sportz Freak im quite sure quirell didnt drink all of it so har... Jan 16 2007, 03:47 AM

Alan_Rickman_Fan_2005 My thinking, now that you mentioned it. Is that ev... Jan 18 2007, 09:08 PM

MarkPotter Ok, i see what you mean lydsr, now you say it, i t... Jan 18 2007, 09:15 PM

melj1213 QUOTE(MarkPotter @ Jan 19 2007, 02:15 AM)... Jan 19 2007, 01:15 AM

lydsr i dont think there is necessarily any reasoning be... Jan 20 2007, 08:46 AM

~FlashBack~ If the tasks really do reset themselves as so many... Jan 20 2007, 09:45 AM

lydsr QUOTE(~FlashBack~ @ Jan 20 2007, 02:45 PM... Jan 20 2007, 01:14 PM

bluwolf/sam QUOTE(~FlashBack~ @ Jan 20 2007, 09:45 AM... Jan 20 2007, 09:54 AM

Potterite I think that the tasks do reset themselves. As in... Jan 20 2007, 12:40 PM

The Sportz Freak QUOTEI think that Dumbledore could have umpteen wa... Apr 29 2007, 06:21 AM

Hatun punchaw If a bottle can be bewitched to allow its content ... Apr 29 2007, 02:15 PM

samscool QUOTE(Hatun punchaw @ Apr 29 2007, 08:15 ... Apr 29 2007, 04:14 PM

Hatun punchaw Well... It's clear that a self-refilling encha... Apr 29 2007, 07:10 PM

weflyofcourse As someone said, a self-refilling spell would fade... Oct 2 2009, 05:53 PM

CharlieNevin The refilling charm always confused me because one... Oct 7 2009, 02:00 PM

Hannibal Granger QUOTE(melj1213 @ Jan 2 2007, 07:12 PM) ..... Oct 26 2009, 09:11 AM

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