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The Seven Tasks in PS/SS, Foreshadowing for later books?
Emmaline
post Jan 4 2007, 12:01 AM
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I have been working on this theory for quite some time now. It may be so far out there or it might hit home, tell me what you guys think. I agree some of it is grasping at straws, but some of it fits too well not to work.

In PS/SS the trio have to pass through several challenges before getting to the stone. I have noticed an interesting thing about the order of them.

1. Fluffy; music and book #1: the trio find fluffy and he is standing on a trap door guarding the stone. they would have to go down through several obstacles before getting the stone. Earlier in the book, Harry and Hagrid have to go into Gringotts to fetch the stone and bring back to hogwarts. The stone is way down in the vaults where they have to go deep into london underground to get it. This is honestly the hardest one. I am having a bit of trouble with it. Hagrid takes care of fluffy, fluffy is a dog, dogs are loyal to the ones that take care of them. in this book we learn how loyal hagrid is to dumbledore because of how he has taken care of hagrid and stood up for him in the past. This loyal thread though is not the theme of the book, nor is it the challenge. Other than it is start of a great adventure that takes them to places they did not expect to go.

2. Devil's Snare, and book #2: Well first of all it is proffesor sprout's protection of the stone. It is hermionie that figures out what it is and how to save the boys. In the second book when everyone is becoming petrified by the snake, hermionie figures out that it is a baslisk and how it is getting around through the school, and why only harry can hear it. Professor Sprout saves those who have been petrified with her healthy crop of mandrakes that she has been growing.

3. Flying keys and book #3. Okay not as obvious as #2. If you think though that the keys are partially transfigured from one thing to something else, in book 3 we see that scabbers is really peter pettigrew transfigured into a rat, we find out sirius is also an animagus, and that james was as well. we also are introduced to the map, a key if you will, of hogwarts and its secret passages.

4. chess and book 4: we have the chess game where the trio must play the game to get across to the next task. In GOF we see harry competing in the Triwizard Tournament a game of sorts. in the end of the chess game, a fellow teammate is sacrificed (although ron does it willingly, cedric does not have a choice)

5. potions, logic OOTP: The potions were snape's way of defending the stone. In the 1st book, the trio think it is snape who is trying to steal the stone, and they are told several times that he is one of the teachers guarding the stone. Is he helping guard the stone to earn DD trust, or is he really good? We dont know. In OOTP, again the trio are not sure where his loyalities lie, so they must work out the puzzle and figure out why dumbledore trusts him to move on in their fight against dumbledore. In this level he loses hermionie because she goes and gets help for ron. In OOTP he loses sirius to the viel.

6: mirror of erised, HBP. In this task Harry is alone. He has no one else in the trio to help him since Hermionie went back to help ron. In the mirror harry sees himself getting what voldemort wants to keep him from regaining power. In HBP Harry is using memories to reflect and learn about Voldemort's past to help him find and understand where voldemort stored all the peices of his soul. He wants to find them, and keep voldemort from using them. (he who wanted to find the stone, and not use it......) In this level he loses quirrel (not that he was worth having anyway) and is left with just voldemort. In HBP well, we all know who is lost there, showing that the final task is between Harry and Voldemort.

7: Final confrontation with voldemort (on quirrel's head) and final confrontation with voldemort

I know this is long, and it needs work, but I wanted to know what you guys thought.


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- Emmaline   The Seven Tasks in PS/SS   Jan 4 2007, 12:01 AM
- - Summersky   Hmmm... I think you're on the right track. Wh...   Jan 4 2007, 12:46 AM
- - wasps   I've taken a look into this. I've never th...   Jan 4 2007, 01:14 AM
- - Emmaline   yes yes you are so right about the troll. I dont k...   Jan 4 2007, 01:45 AM
- - wasps   QUOTEI completly agree with you WASPS except for o...   Jan 4 2007, 01:49 AM
- - Emmaline   A good point with Hermionie and Rita. A thought ...   Jan 4 2007, 04:50 PM
- - Summersky   No, it's not new. But it always good to see h...   Jan 4 2007, 11:30 PM
- - wasps   QUOTENo, it's not new. But it always good to s...   Jan 4 2007, 11:43 PM
- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(Emmaline @ Jan 4 2007, 04:01 PM) 10...   Jan 5 2007, 02:11 AM
- - wasps   QUOTE I think the last task, the Mirror of Erised,...   Jan 5 2007, 02:18 AM
|- - JamesPotter001   All of the things here all refer to the Magic numb...   Jan 6 2007, 03:18 PM
- - Emmaline   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Jan 5 2007, 01...   Jan 5 2007, 03:00 AM
- - wasps   Yes, but that mistake really says a lot about this...   Jan 5 2007, 03:11 AM
- - Emmaline   says a lot in a good way or bad way? i hope a goo...   Jan 5 2007, 03:31 AM
- - wasps   QUOTEsays a lot in a good way or bad way? i hope a...   Jan 5 2007, 03:40 AM
- - potterliterati   QUOTE(Emmaline @ Jan 4 2007, 12:01 AM) 10...   Jan 5 2007, 03:12 PM
- - wasps   QUOTE Good thinking! I think it works from a l...   Jan 5 2007, 03:23 PM
- - Segonku   There are seven obstacles that protect the Sorcere...   Jan 5 2007, 04:43 PM
- - jammi567   it certainly shows hermione's weakness of pani...   Jan 5 2007, 05:21 PM
- - MarilynH   I have been wondering and thinking about the seven...   Jan 8 2007, 06:20 PM
- - Segonku   Thanks for your reply, Jammi567. QUOTE(jammi567 ...   Jan 12 2007, 12:09 PM
|- - galadriel12   I have to say, I never was much of a fan of the 7 ...   Mar 1 2007, 12:43 PM
- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTEYes, but don't you think that not being a...   Mar 1 2007, 12:42 AM
- - SoonerGryffindor   I just wanted to post and say what an amazing topi...   Mar 1 2007, 02:13 AM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(SoonerGryffindor @ Mar 1 2007, 06:1...   Mar 1 2007, 04:24 AM
- - Segonku   I'm not much of a fan of the 7 books/7 tasks t...   Mar 1 2007, 04:14 PM
|- - Wimsey   QUOTE(Segonku @ Mar 1 2007, 09:14 PM) 111...   Mar 13 2007, 05:57 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEIn both cases, Harry (with Ron & Hermione...   Mar 13 2007, 06:20 PM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(Oryx @ Mar 14 2007, 12:20 AM) 11363...   Mar 15 2007, 02:22 PM
|- - Domoor   I'm merely matching things up. My suspicion is...   Mar 18 2007, 11:00 AM
- - secunda   Domoor, can you explain your system? 1. fluffy-si...   Mar 15 2007, 06:01 PM
- - sharkey_flymo   I have been thinking about this one for quite a wh...   Mar 24 2007, 03:33 AM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(sharkey_flymo @ Mar 24 2007, 08:33 ...   Mar 25 2007, 12:57 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTETherefore, the final two Horcruxes would be p...   Mar 24 2007, 11:05 AM
- - dembones   I thought there was also a theory that the sixth t...   Mar 25 2007, 05:41 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(dembones @ Mar 26 2007, 08:41 AM) 1...   Mar 29 2007, 07:13 AM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Mar 29 2007, 01...   Mar 29 2007, 06:52 PM
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|- - dembones   QUOTE(bnmc2007 @ Apr 18 2007, 11:59 PM) 1...   Apr 18 2007, 06:32 PM
- - obsessedWithSnape   QUOTE(wasps @ Jan 4 2007, 01:49 AM) 10524...   Mar 29 2007, 06:56 AM
- - Oryx   On Lupin as the key to going forward: remember whe...   Mar 29 2007, 07:22 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Mar 30 2007, 01:22 AM) 11579...   Mar 31 2007, 01:37 PM
- - obsessedWithSnape   Of course, Nettle Wine no. 6 could also refer to S...   Apr 16 2007, 09:25 AM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(obsessedWithSnape @ Apr 16 2007, 03...   Apr 16 2007, 05:23 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEHagrid was new teacher in PoA, so you'd h...   Apr 16 2007, 05:24 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 16 2007, 11:24 PM) 11839...   Apr 17 2007, 06:09 PM
- - obsessedWithSnape   I know, but it's just that if you state that S...   Apr 18 2007, 12:00 PM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(obsessedWithSnape @ Apr 18 2007, 07...   Apr 18 2007, 12:41 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(obsessedWithSnape @ Apr 18 2007, 06...   Apr 18 2007, 01:24 PM
- - Oryx   Of course, if poison teachers are those who threat...   Apr 18 2007, 01:29 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 18 2007, 07:29 PM) 11862...   Apr 18 2007, 01:36 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEThis would make Snape a kind of inverted (mir...   Apr 18 2007, 06:24 PM
|- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 18 2007, 06:24 PM) 11866...   Apr 19 2007, 05:41 PM
- - Stephanie826   As I read this thread, my wheels started turning t...   Apr 19 2007, 11:51 AM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Stephanie826 @ Apr 19 2007, 05:51 P...   Apr 19 2007, 12:22 PM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(dembones @ Apr 19 2007, 07:22 PM) 1...   Apr 19 2007, 01:28 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Domoor @ Apr 19 2007, 07:28 PM) 118...   Apr 19 2007, 05:18 PM
- - Dreamteam   Modly Reminder Please remember to stay on topic a...   Apr 20 2007, 07:09 AM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Dreamteam @ Apr 20 2007, 01:09 PM) ...   Apr 20 2007, 12:52 PM
- - potterfan6   QUOTE I'm not sure if the Mirror itself will a...   Apr 20 2007, 08:41 AM
- - bnmc2007   Yes, I agree the Mirror is more of a metaphor. L...   Apr 20 2007, 09:04 AM
- - bnmc2007   Back on the tasks themselves correlating the theme...   Apr 20 2007, 03:20 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(bnmc2007 @ Apr 21 2007, 06:20 AM) 1...   Apr 20 2007, 08:48 PM
- - dembones   The past two posts are really interesting, the the...   Apr 22 2007, 04:02 PM
|- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(dembones @ Apr 22 2007, 04:02 PM) 1...   Apr 22 2007, 05:05 PM
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|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(dembones @ Apr 23 2007, 07:02 AM) 1...   Apr 22 2007, 07:09 PM
|- - gadigal ghoul   What is the 5th task in the seven tasks? Is that a...   May 3 2007, 03:56 AM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(gadigal ghoul @ May 3 2007, 10:56 A...   May 5 2007, 03:36 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEIs it even vaguely possible that JKR has chos...   Apr 22 2007, 05:42 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Apr 22 2007, 11:42 PM) 11911...   Apr 22 2007, 05:51 PM
- - bnmc2007   QUOTE You will always find some on nettle wine...   May 7 2007, 09:41 PM
- - addruinedmylife   i could be wrong, but i remember this topic being ...   May 8 2007, 04:40 AM
- - Dobby2dmax   Hi ther, And thanks BNMC for unknowingly leading ...   May 8 2007, 05:25 AM
- - secunda   Task6 potion snape or riddle/ riddle   May 9 2007, 01:58 PM
- - Goony1   You could be right about that one. There is links ...   May 10 2007, 04:31 PM
- - secunda   Oh i am too late to edit my last post. so to be mo...   May 11 2007, 02:30 AM
|- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(secunda @ May 11 2007, 02:30 AM) 12...   May 11 2007, 09:58 PM
- - Domoor   QUOTEPS, UK Paperback, P.207: One among us seven w...   May 11 2007, 12:13 PM
- - secunda   QUOTE(Domoor @ May 11 2007, 12:13 PM) 121...   May 12 2007, 10:12 AM
- - obsessedWithSnape   QUOTEthe locket could be a killer, too. and the ra...   May 13 2007, 07:23 AM
|- - Domoor   QUOTE(obsessedWithSnape @ May 13 2007, 02...   May 13 2007, 12:24 PM
- - secunda   oh it wasn´t me who talked about the seven questio...   May 13 2007, 05:06 PM
- - obsessedWithSnape   QUOTEYou know what? Quirrell was prepared for snap...   May 14 2007, 07:53 AM
|- - gadigal ghoul   QUOTE(obsessedWithSnape @ May 14 2007, 07...   May 21 2007, 12:06 AM
- - obsessedWithSnape   QUOTEHow would QuirrellMort have got the potion fr...   May 21 2007, 06:04 AM
- - bnmc2007   I am pretty taken with the Snape as "Nettle W...   May 21 2007, 11:41 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(bnmc2007 @ May 22 2007, 02:41 PM) 1...   Jun 2 2007, 07:55 PM
|- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Jun 2 2007, 07...   Jun 7 2007, 01:53 PM
- - Oryx   You skipped: 6. Nettle Wine = Snape The 7th is su...   Jun 7 2007, 04:49 PM
|- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(Oryx @ Jun 7 2007, 04:49 PM) 124519...   Jun 7 2007, 05:28 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Jun 7 2007, 10:49 PM) 124519...   Jun 17 2007, 07:33 PM
- - Maime the Hunter   Nettle wine or nectar is an folk remedy for three ...   Jun 7 2007, 09:17 PM
- - Oryx   QUOTEThe chess game Ron is ready to sacrifice hims...   Jun 7 2007, 10:41 PM
|- - Maime the Hunter   QUOTE(Oryx @ Jun 7 2007, 09:41 PM) 124556...   Jun 7 2007, 11:09 PM
- - Oryx   What you describe sounds more like Dumbledore...   Jun 17 2007, 07:46 PM
|- - dembones   QUOTE(Oryx @ Jun 18 2007, 01:46 AM) 12611...   Jun 18 2007, 02:41 PM
- - bnmc2007   I also expect the final DADA teacher to be someone...   Jun 18 2007, 09:23 AM
- - Miss_Tyfiee   I hope I'm not repeating anyone but I just wan...   Jun 18 2007, 02:55 PM
- - bnmc2007   QUOTE(Miss_Tyfiee @ Jun 18 2007, 02:55 PM...   Jun 18 2007, 07:28 PM
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