Transcript Open Reading Group Chat, November 11, 2006, Chapters 6-9 of Goblet of Fire |
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Transcript Open Reading Group Chat: Chapters 6-9 of Goblet of Fire November 11, 2006 Today’s Chat Moderators Were: Aislinn, Expelliarmas, fawkes28, futureweasly, Poet, SoonerGryffindor, and Theoriser [12:45] <Aislinn> Open Reading Group chat on Ch. 6-9 Goblet of Fire [12:45] *** Snuffles changed the topic to: Open Reading Group chat on Ch. 6-9 Goblet of Fire (Aislinn) [12:53] *** Pellinore has joined #lounge [12:57] *** Poet has joined #lounge [12:59] *** Punky has joined #lounge [12:59] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [13:00] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [13:00] <Aislinn> typing will work now guys [13:01] <Aislinn> smile [13:01] <Aislinn> hello! [13:01] <Punky> Hey guys! [13:01] <fawkes28> hello smile [13:01] <futureweasley> hi everybody! [13:01] <Poet> howdy [13:01] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [13:01] <futureweasley> hi debbie [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> hiya future smile [13:02] <Poet> Hi DumbleDebbie [13:02] <fawkes28> hi debbie [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> hi all! [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> any notice yet fawkes? [13:02] <Pellinore> Hi ya smile. Thanks for the IM dd [13:02] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> *anyone [13:02] <fawkes28> no debbie [13:02] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! [13:02] <fawkes28> sad [13:02] <futureweasley> hi nympheart [13:02] <nympheart> salutations [13:02] *** Alexk has joined #lounge [13:03] <fawkes28> and i even changed my siggy a bit [13:03] <nympheart> hi alex [13:03] <fawkes28> you should look smile [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> I'm tempted to get my sister to say something [13:03] <Alexk> hello everyone! [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> OK I will [13:03] <DumbleDebbie> hi Alexk [13:03] <Aislinn> hello all smile [13:03] <fawkes28> hi alex [13:03] <futureweasley> hi Alex [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> LOL that's a riot fawkes hee hee [13:04] <fawkes28> hehe [13:04] <Poet> hemhem [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> you're welcome Pellinore [13:04] <nympheart> lol poet [13:04] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [13:04] <futureweasley> hi sooner [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> Sooner!!! smile [13:04] <nympheart> hi sooner [13:04] <Alexk> hi sooner [13:04] *** adamgryff has joined #lounge [13:04] <nympheart> hi adam [13:04] <DumbleDebbie> Adam!!! smile [13:05] <DumbleDebbie> yay! [13:05] <adamgryff> i all I just cam to say I'm home [13:05] <fawkes28> hi adam!!!! [13:05] <DumbleDebbie> you home? oh yay [13:05] <futureweasley> hi Adam...missed ya. [13:05] <Alexk> hi adam [13:05] <fawkes28> make sure you get some rest smile [13:05] <adamgryff> I'm not stayin to chat [13:05] <DumbleDebbie> take care of yourself Adam smile [13:05] <adamgryff> I will, hope to see you tonight [13:06] <futureweasley> yeah, get some rest [13:06] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> looking at a scrolling chat screen for hours is probably not the best thing for the afternoon LOL [13:06] <fawkes28> that is very true [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> good to know you're home though [13:06] <fawkes28> yes thanks for popping in [13:06] <adamgryff> agree, thats why I'm heading back to the couch for some rest [13:06] <adamgryff> see you later [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> sofa [13:06] <nympheart> take care! [13:06] *** adamgryff left #lounge [] [13:06] <DumbleDebbie> see ya [13:07] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> wb Sooner, stay a while ;) [13:07] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry guys. I couldnt type the first time I got in [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> I hate it when that happens, good to see its working now [13:07] <Alexk> has anyone been in the mugglenet chatrooms before? [13:07] <DumbleDebbie> nope [13:07] <Poet> I tried once [13:07] <nympheart> no [13:07] <Alexk> i popped in yesterday [13:08] <Alexk> much less civilized [13:08] <fawkes28> is everyone excited for the chat??? [13:08] <Alexk> than here [13:08] <Pellinore> hehe nice smiley ;o [13:08] <SoonerGryffindor> no Alex, I wont go there [13:08] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! [13:08] <nympheart> I don't like mugglenet as much [13:08] <Alexk> i don't like it at all [13:08] <Aislinn> we're a civilized lot over here biggrin [13:08] <Alexk> very disorganized [13:08] <futureweasley> wow, do I have lag or what? [13:08] <fawkes28> me either, sooner [13:08] <Punky> lol smile [13:08] <DumbleDebbie> they don't have our awesome mods wink [13:08] <Poet> Everytime someone mentions Mugglenet of MuggleCast, you owe Aislinn $1 [13:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [13:08] <Alexk> lol true [13:08] *** futureweasley left #lounge [] [13:08] <fawkes28> and our awesome chatters smile [13:08] <SoonerGryffindor> that's right [13:08] <DumbleDebbie> LOL [13:08] <Aislinn> hehehe - that's right Poet! [13:09] <nympheart> my name once appeared on mugglecast, does that count? [13:09] <DumbleDebbie> that's $5 nymph [13:09] <DumbleDebbie> LOL [13:09] <Alexk> *gasp* nymp [13:09] <nympheart> ouch [13:09] <nympheart> I like V for Vendetta okay? [13:09] <fawkes28> hey poet can that work with the woots too? wink [13:09] <fawkes28> a $1 to me per woot smile [13:09] <DumbleDebbie> ooo, fawkes, you'd make a fortune [13:09] <Alexk> woot [13:09] <Poet> Only if we say woot and MN at the same time [13:10] <fawkes28> i know!! [13:10] <Alexk> lol [13:10] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [13:10] <DumbleDebbie> if you say the 2 at the same time Poet Snuffles may boot you LOL [13:10] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry fawkes, but woot is part of the CB and we have to do it. MN is just not to be mentioned. laugh [13:10] <nympheart> hi raven [13:10] <Ravendor> hey, everyone [13:10] <DumbleDebbie> hi ravendor [13:10] <Alexk> lol [13:10] <Alexk> hi raven [13:10] <fawkes28> i tried smile [13:10] <SoonerGryffindor> hi raven [13:11] <Aislinn> hey raven [13:11] <Alexk> i hope they don't woot in mn, that would be cheating [13:11] <DumbleDebbie> LOL [13:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [13:11] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [13:11] <Alexk> draws in more fans when you woot [13:11] <Alexk> lol [13:11] <fawkes28> ok alex they can woot all they want over there! [13:11] <fawkes28> hi pleshette! [13:12] <nympheart> hi pleshette [13:12] <Alexk> it's an advertising device [13:12] <SoonerGryffindor> Hi Pleshette [13:12] <Ravendor> hey, Pleshette [13:12] <Pleshette> Hi everyone! smile [13:12] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> hi Pleshette! [13:12] <nympheart> hi expie [13:12] <Ravendor> hey, Expie [13:12] <Alexk> hi pleshette [13:12] <DumbleDebbie> hi Expie [13:13] <Alexk> hi expie [13:13] * Pleshette was drawn in by Alexk's Wooting [13:13] <Expelliarmas> heya peepers [13:13] <Alexk> lol [13:13] <Poet> So this chat is brought to you by the letter "W"? [13:13] <Pleshette> Hey Expel! [13:13] <nympheart> lol [13:13] <nympheart> what's the number? [13:13] <Punky> Aren't the always Poet? [13:13] <Aislinn> hey Expie! [13:13] <Pleshette> I'm a Whoo Hoo kind of gal myself [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> number 4 [13:13] <DumbleDebbie> for the 4th book [13:14] <fawkes28> pleshette you are the best! smile [13:14] <Alexk> they should do a harry potter episode on sesame street, there's not enough 5 and unders who love hp [13:14] <DumbleDebbie> mee to Pleshette, except for special circumstances [13:14] <DumbleDebbie> btw Adam stopped in to say he was home and then logged off to get some rest [13:14] <Pleshette> So true Debbie and I'm always glad to see others who like to Whoo Hoo too [13:15] <Pleshette> Oh, I'm glad his resting this afternoon [13:15] <nympheart> i'm more of a "yay" person [13:15] <DumbleDebbie> me too Pleshette [13:15] <Ravendor> yeah, me too, nympheart [13:15] <Alexk> wooayt! [13:15] <fawkes28> woo hoo smile [13:15] <Alexk> combo [13:15] <DumbleDebbie> lol [13:16] <Ravendor> haha [13:16] <Pleshette> love it Alexk [13:16] <SoonerGryffindor> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [13:16] <SoonerGryffindor> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod. [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [13:17] <SoonerGryffindor> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [13:17] <Poet> Amos needles Harry about losing to Cedric. The Weasleys and Diggorys take a Portkey to the World Cup. Arthur has trouble managing Muggle money. Mr. Roberts needs a memory charm 10 times a day. The trio go for water. They see witches and wizards from other countries. Bagman and Crouch visit their campsite. [13:17] <Poet> In the top box, Harry meets Winky. Dobby can't find work because he wants paying. The Malfoys are also in the top box. Leprechauns and Veela put on a display - causing an odd effect on the males. The game gets rougher and rougher, the Veela get angry, and Krum chooses to catch the snitch. The twins collect from Bagman. [13:17] <Poet> In the top box, Harry meets Winky. Dobby can't find work because he wants paying. The Malfoys are also in the top box. Leprechauns and Veela put on a display - causing an odd effect on the males. The game gets rougher and rougher, the Veela get angry, and Krum chooses to catch the snitch. The twins collect from Bagman. [13:17] <Poet> During the night, masked wizards levitate the Roberts' family. The older Weasleys rush off to help the Ministry. The kids set off for the woods, where the trio run across Draco, Winky, Goblins, and Mr. Bagman. Harry can't find his wand. Someone shouts, “Morsmordre,” and the Dark Mark fills the sky. [13:18] <Poet> Ministry wizards almost Stupefy the trio. Crouch is suspicious of them until Amos pulls Winky (and the culprit wand) out of the woods. The wand is Harry's. Mr. Crouch takes Winky to deal with her himself. Ready? Good! Let’s talk about Chapters 6-9 of Goblet of Fire. [13:18] <Poet> When you first heard about Apparition, what did you think of it? Knowing the risks involved, if you could, would you want to apparate? [13:18] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, so much time saved [13:18] <nympheart> at first I thought it was cool [13:18] <Pleshette> Definitely! [13:18] <fawkes28> i thought it was interesting [13:18] <DumbleDebbie> especially for long trips [13:18] <nympheart> but when Harry described it the appeal was lost on me [13:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it would definitely save on travel expenses [13:18] <Alexk> ooo fun [13:19] <fawkes28> i would probably do it to save time but i think i'd rather use a broom [13:19] <DumbleDebbie> LOL true Sooner [13:19] <Expelliarmas> I don't know, if I botched it I could be in for some sirius pain [13:19] <nympheart> I'd prefer riding some sort of flying creature [13:19] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [13:19] <Ravendor> I thought it was interesting, but I would be nervous to do it, I think [13:19] <Pleshette> I think I'd get used to the feeling after a while [13:19] <Pellinore> there would go the oil problem and our main source of global warming if we could all apperate ;o [13:19] <Pleshette> I'd be more afraid to ride a broom [13:19] <fawkes28> i don't know about riding a creature it might be uncomfortable [13:19] <Alexk> it'd be interesting to show up somewhere with your legs somewhere else, like being in two places at once [13:19] <Poet> I don't like the idea of feeling squeezed, but I'd prefer it more than flying I'm sure. [13:19] <Alexk> how fun [13:20] <nympheart> it would ruin my senior thesis, pellinore [13:20] <Pellinore> hehe [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> 'round here riding anything (broom, creature) is going to be mighty cold in the winter [13:20] <Pleshette> And i wouldn't have to worry about getting somewhere late [13:20] <nympheart> at least creatures are warm [13:20] <fawkes28> i'd be afraid i would get splinched [13:20] <DumbleDebbie> the wind chill would be brutal [13:20] <Ravendor> Knowing me something would go wrong if I tried to Apparate. smile [13:20] <Poet> The risks don't sound all that bad. I wonder how painful splinching is? [13:20] <Alexk> and bugs would constantly be flying into your mouth on a broom [13:21] <Ravendor> eww [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> LOL, they'd put you back together though [13:21] <Poet> Ooo, yuck. Too true. [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> eww Alex [13:21] <Punky> Not sure how painful but it would be akward at least to be splinched smile [13:21] <Pleshette> Too bad you couldn't choose which parts you could splinch [13:21] <fawkes28> what if no one was around to help you? and you legs were somewhere and your top half was somewhere else? [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> embarrassing too [13:21] *** bemused has joined #lounge [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> lol Plesh [13:21] <Pleshette> a little off the hips please [13:21] <DumbleDebbie> hi bemused [13:21] <fawkes28> hi bemused [13:21] <Ravendor> hey, bemused [13:21] <Pellinore> doesn't sound like splinching is something common though.. considering you'ld apperate to work every day [13:21] <nympheart> lol pleshette [13:21] <Pleshette> Hi bemused [13:21] <Ravendor> lol, Pleshette [13:21] <Alexk> lol fawkes, i guess that's true [13:21] <Poet> What did you think of Molly taking the fake sweets from the pockets of Fred and George? [13:22] <nympheart> i laughed [13:22] <DumbleDebbie> it was great! [13:22] <nympheart> typical of the twins [13:22] <Pleshette> Sounds like something I would do [13:22] <fawkes28> bring a mother [13:22] <Aislinn> it was such a 'mom' thing to do [13:22] <Poet> First it was pretty hilarious. She knows her sons so well. [13:22] <fawkes28> being [13:22] <DumbleDebbie> she should've been a bit more persistent though [13:22] <Alexk> she doesn't want them to cause trouble [13:22] <fawkes28> i wish we could do that in real life! [13:22] <Alexk> she doesn't want their careers to go in the direction she knows they're going [13:22] <DumbleDebbie> and it teaches us "Accio" which we need to know for later [13:22] <Aislinn> what do you mean, a bit more persistent debbie? [13:22] <Pellinore> she's trying to guide them away from "wasting" time but doesn't know yet how good they'll be at their own shop, so understandable [13:23] <DumbleDebbie> because they had sacks full of them Aislin, the ones in their jeans were just decoys [13:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Debbie, I think that was the most important part of that scene [13:23] <bemused> hello everyone [13:23] *** bemused has quit [Bye] [13:23] <Poet> I'm sure she's a little worried about them causing trouble for their Dad at the camp ground. I assume most wizards could fix their own tongues though [13:23] *** bemused has joined #lounge [13:23] <Aislinn> I don't remember seeing sacks of them after that scene [13:23] <SoonerGryffindor> wb bemused [13:23] <DumbleDebbie> typical Jo, teach us something early that will be key later [13:24] <nympheart> not younger ones, though [13:24] <nympheart> those things could be dangerous [13:24] <Alexk> hopefully poet [13:24] <SoonerGryffindor> right, so the accio was a hint of what was to come [13:24] <bemused> hello everyone! [13:24] <DumbleDebbie> I thought they had bunches in their knapsacks [13:24] <nympheart> wb poet [13:24] <Aislinn> hi bemused smile [13:24] <Pellinore> i wounder if there's an anti Accio spell.. kind of a glue/anchor/magic resistance spell [13:24] <Poet> I think it was all they had - the ones they hid - they'd worked on them for so long [13:24] <Aislinn> they seemed awfully mad for 2 people who had just had their decoys removed, but still had a stash [13:25] <nympheart> well, the shield charm works against it [13:25] <DumbleDebbie> I must be out-tricking the tricksters [13:25] <DumbleDebbie> lol [13:25] <Aislinn> they stalked off without saying goodbye to Molly [13:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that was all they had as well. They were not hppy [13:25] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, well that would be part of the act if it was a bunch of decoys [13:25] <Alexk> yes, i'm sure there is pellinore, a super sticky post-it note tacked on the wall [13:25] <Pleshette> Was that when they were boarding the Hogwarts Express perhaps? [13:25] <Expelliarmas> they sure were mad; but I did feel badly for them losing all that time on their work [13:25] <fawkes28> well they got caught red-handed [13:25] <Aislinn> I loved her reaction when they returned [13:25] <Aislinn> me too expie [13:25] <Pleshette> Oh me too Ais! [13:26] <nympheart> me too aislinn [13:26] <Ravendor> me too, expie [13:26] <bemused> yes aislinn - know just how that feels [13:26] <nympheart> i see something similar happening with percy [13:26] <Pleshette> And their comment when she thought they were making another order form [13:26] <Aislinn> I hope so nymph [13:26] <Poet> Arthur described the amount of work the MoM had to do to get the stadium site ready for the QWC. What did you think of all this detailed and coordinated work? [13:26] <Pleshette> But that's getting ahead [13:26] <Aislinn> that was priceless pleshette! [13:26] <Pleshette> smile [13:26] <fawkes28> i actually was impressed with their organization for the most part [13:26] <Alexk> money wasted on sports [13:27] <nympheart> quite an undertaking [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> fawkes pointed out in our RG that they were amazingly organized [13:27] <Alexk> jk [13:27] <Poet> Pretty amazing work I think. That is a huge amount of wizards to get into one place [13:27] <Expelliarmas> seems like the MoM can get it together when everyone is looking [13:27] <DumbleDebbie> they missed a few things, like in our room someone suggested.. why not send Mr Roberts on a vacation [13:27] <nympheart> with a few glitches to the fault of Ludo [13:27] *** Punky left #lounge [] [13:27] <Aislinn> it was a logistical feat, so apparently they can do some things right [13:27] <Poet> Yes, I wonder how much that cost. It's one thing that brings everyone together though [13:27] <DumbleDebbie> thanks to type A Mr Crouch [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> you know that Crouch had to have been in charge of most of it with as detail oriented as he is [13:27] <fawkes28> i had to admit that they did a good job which surprised me because typically the MoM is a mess [13:27] <Ravendor> same here, fawkes [13:27] <Pleshette> I think it was a great way to bring all kinds and nationalities together even if it was costly [13:27] <nympheart> that was the best the MoM ever appeared [13:27] <Aislinn> yes, I agree sooner [13:27] <fawkes28> but crouch couldnt do it all himself [13:27] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder if they really are a mess, or just when it comes to things associated with Harry [13:27] <Alexk> sports always does that, where there's competition, people will come [13:28] <DumbleDebbie> they have their priorites fawkes, sports first, public safety 53rd [13:28] <fawkes28> he needed other people to play their part [13:28] *** harrypotterfan123 has joined #lounge [13:28] *** harrypotterfan123 has quit [Bye] [13:28] <bemused> Shame they're not better at muggle clothes - but I think that's inthe books for laughs, really [13:28] <DumbleDebbie> hi HPfan [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [13:28] <fawkes28> that's an interesting point, sooner [13:28] <Ravendor> hey, hpfan [13:28] *** harrypotterfan123 has joined #lounge [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> wb hpfan [13:28] <Aislinn> I think it's things associated with LV, more than Harry per se [13:28] <Pellinore> probably an organisational spell like the quill that rights down new wizard/witches [13:28] <nympheart> wb hpfan [13:28] <SoonerGryffindor> true Aislinn [13:28] <Ravendor> just about to say that, Aislinn [13:28] <harrypotterfan123> what's up? [13:28] <nympheart> the ministry arranging the QWC [13:28] <fawkes28> it's hard when we only really see the book through mostly harry's eyes [13:29] <SoonerGryffindor> we are chatting about chapters 6-9 tpday hpfan [13:29] <Alexk> if they had to modify Mr.Roberts memory 10 times, there was definitely a lot of risk involved [13:29] <fawkes28> it is like they are good at things that can be controlled..voldemort is just one of those things that is out of there control [13:29] <Poet> I wonder what the wizards who built the stadium do during the rest of their time (when they aren't building a stadium) [13:29] <DumbleDebbie> yeah I thought it was odd they're worried about Mr Roberts catching on and then they Apparate right next to him, doh [13:29] *** Kelazma has joined #lounge [13:29] <Alexk> they're constucion workers? [13:29] <harrypotterfan123> g2g guys just checking in to see how the discussion was [13:29] <nympheart> hi Kelazma [13:29] <DumbleDebbie> hi kelazma [13:29] <Ravendor> hey, Kelazma [13:30] <Pleshette> Hi kelazma [13:30] <Alexk> hi kelazma [13:30] <harrypotterfan123> see yah [13:30] <Ravendor> bye, hpfan [13:30] <nympheart> bye hpfan [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> by [13:30] <Alexk> bye hpfan [13:30] <Pellinore> Wizard Construction Workers #57 union.. probably stand around holding their wands ;o [13:30] <Pleshette> Bye hpfan! [13:30] <harrypotterfan123> hi kelazma [13:30] *** harrypotterfan123 left #lounge [] [13:30] <Kelazma> hiya heya [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> lol Pellinore [13:30] <Alexk> lol [13:30] <Poet> Why did Amos remind Harry of Cedric beating him at Quidditch? [13:30] <DumbleDebbie> 'cause he's annoying [13:30] <nympheart> well, it's the famous Harry Potter [13:31] <Kelazma> it made amos feel important [13:31] <fawkes28> i think he was proud of his son [13:31] <Pleshette> Pride [13:31] <Pellinore> proud father that's fairly short sighted and not very tactfull [13:31] <bemused> cos he's proud of Cedric [13:31] <nympheart> and he wants to make his son look good [13:31] <Ravendor> because he was so ecstatic that his son was "better" than Harry [13:31] <Alexk> he's trying to put his son above harry [13:31] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [13:31] <fawkes28> hi mr. m [13:31] <Aislinn> I think he is quite proud of his son, and to him it would really be something that his son beat the :famous Harry Potter [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> he seems like one of those parents that pushes their kid in sports b/c they weren't as good as they wanted to be as akid [13:31] <Ravendor> hey, Mr.M [13:31] <Pleshette> Hey Mr.McG! [13:31] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Mr M [13:31] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, everybody! [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> hey Mr M [13:31] <bemused> hello Mr McG [13:31] <nympheart> I was fond of Cedric in that scene [13:31] <Alexk> hi Mrm [13:31] <nympheart> hi MrM [13:31] <Aislinn> Hi Mr M! [13:31] <fawkes28> harry is like a hero in the wizarding world...it is a "big" deal to beat a hero [13:31] <Expelliarmas> Amos seems to be lacking in the "tact" department [13:31] <MrMcGonagall> Oooh, I see we're talking about Amos. [13:31] <bemused> Cedric always comes across so well [13:31] <DumbleDebbie> Cedric was wonderful. Amos gets under my skin [13:31] <Pleshette> Even though he's annoying I think Amos is genuinely proud of Cedric [13:31] <nympheart> yup, and how he treated Harry when they met [13:31] <fawkes28> he doesnt think before he speaks it seems [13:32] <Aislinn> yes we are Mr M - about his comment to Harry [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was just fatherly pride making him obnoxious. Kinda like when you see those bumper stickers that peoples kids are in the honor club [13:32] <Poet> Right [13:32] <Pleshette> Cedric must get his manners from his mother [13:32] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [13:32] <Ravendor> haha, Sooner [13:32] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, that was how I see it [13:32] <Alexk> maybe if amos didn't boast so much, karma wouldn't come back and get him [13:32] <nympheart> we dont' know anything about Mrs.D [13:32] <bemused> He's the kind of father that makes kids cringe - but his heart's int he right place [13:32] <Alexk> i'm not saying cedric should have died [13:32] <Aislinn> Think about how Harry is viewed in the wizarding world - to have his son beat Harry at Quidditch would really make him puff up [13:32] <SoonerGryffindor> oh Alex, as a parent that thought gives me cold chills [13:32] *** jade_and_diamond_fire has joined #lounge [13:32] <Aislinn> and want to gloat a bit [13:33] <nympheart> hi jade [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> hi jade [13:33] <Expelliarmas> I was surprised at how tactless Amos was given how tactful Cedric turned out to be [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> :( [13:33] <MrMcGonagall> I think I really felt worse for Harry than I did angry at Amos. Met too many parents like that, I guess. [13:33] <Ravendor> hey, jade [13:33] <Pleshette> I agree Aislinn [13:33] <fawkes28> well, cedric wasn't really gloating it was just amos [13:33] <jade_and_diamond_fire> hi everyone! [13:33] <fawkes28> hi jade [13:33] <Alexk> hi jade [13:33] <SoonerGryffindor> but maybe Cedric is that way because his father is tactless [13:33] *** Pellinore has quit [Bye] [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> hi jade [13:33] <Expelliarmas> Oh, I can understand gloating--but not at Harry's expense [13:33] <bemused> Cedric had probably learned what not to do by watching his Dad! [13:33] <Poet> What did you think of Amos needling Harry as to who was the better flier (for not falling off his broom) like that? What did you think of Cedric reminding Amos that Harry fell off the broom by accident? Do you think Cedric told Amos about the dementors? [13:33] <DumbleDebbie> that's the real annoying part Expie, that he would go out of his way to make another kid feel bad [13:34] *** Pellinore has joined #lounge [13:34] <Pleshette> It's one thing to be proud but to put down another child is tactless to say the least [13:34] <DumbleDebbie> wb pellinore [13:34] <Pellinore> ms error :P [13:34] <Ravendor> agreed, Pleshette [13:34] <nympheart> I think Cedric told Amos about what really happend [13:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I bet Cedric told him, but I bet Amos conventiently ignored that fact [13:34] <Expelliarmas> Cedric definitely told his dad about the dementors; shame on Amos for needling a kid [13:34] <Aislinn> I think that Cedric was trying to be very fair, as he was the day of the actual match [13:34] <MrMcGonagall> I think Cedric did - that's just not what amos remembers. [13:34] <fawkes28> i think cedric did but i think amos chose to go deaf at that part [13:34] <jade_and_diamond_fire> yeah, it kind of makes it hard to feel bad for him at the end of the book [13:34] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner [13:34] <Expelliarmas> maybe the wizarding community forgets Harry is a kid [13:34] <nympheart> Cedric gets points for trying to set his dad straight [13:34] <Alexk> cedric was joining into the fun of taunting harry for things that werent his fault [13:34] <Pleshette> That speaks to Cedric's character to speak up with the truth [13:34] <Aislinn> I think that has a lot to do with it expie [13:34] <Poet> I like the point that someone made in the reading groups -- that's the one Expelliarmas [13:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Well, in Amos' mind, this just made Cedric all that much better becuase he didnt fall off his broom when he saw a dementor [13:34] <Aislinn> they see him as an icon, not a kid [13:34] <fawkes28> i agree, pleshette [13:35] <Kelazma> i think that it's the Hufflepuff way to give credit where it's due [13:35] <Alexk> i agree ais, they expect a lot more of harry [13:35] <Kelazma> and to be honest about achievements....boasting isn't really their way. [13:35] <Alexk> they don't realize he's 14 [13:35] <MrMcGonagall> I think Amos just forgets that there was a reason Harry fell off his broom . . . one that had nothing to do with clumsiness. [13:35] *** jade_and_diamond_fire has quit [Bye] [13:35] <Alexk> or as rita would say, 12 [13:35] <fawkes28> all amos needed to hear was "dad, my team beat harry potter's team" and amos refused to listen to any excuses [13:35] <Pellinore> dunno if i'd make such sweaping generalizations about a house like that. [13:35] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Fawkes. [13:35] <Pleshette> How eerie is it when Amos says, "Ced, that'll be something to tell your grandchildren, that will" [13:35] <Aislinn> right fawkes [13:36] <SoonerGryffindor> oh Pleshette, that line is so sad [13:36] <nympheart> ooo, yes pleshette [13:36] <DumbleDebbie> that was so SAD plesh [13:36] <fawkes28> that makes me so sad [13:36] <nympheart> tragic on a reread [13:36] <Pleshette> Tugs at the heart [13:36] <Expelliarmas> well, if wizards know about the effect of dementors, then Amos shouldn't have had anything to crow about; maybe Amos lives vicariously through Cedric? [13:36] <DumbleDebbie> happy_crying [13:36] <MrMcGonagall> Ooh, I hadn't thought about that, Pleshette. Now I'm a sad panda. [13:36] <Poet> Of course, Amos may not be Hufflepuff. Maybe he's used to his son down-playing his accomplishments. [13:36] <Alexk> true, the baby Chodrics will never be born now [13:36] <fawkes28> yes, expie, i think he is definitely living through his son [13:36] <Poet> What did you make of travel by Portkey? Would you want to travel that way? [13:36] <MrMcGonagall> It's OK. [13:37] <Alexk> yes, definitely [13:37] <Ravendor> yeah, I would [13:37] <nympheart> I thought it was cool, but I'm not sure what it would be like to experience [13:37] <Pleshette> Eh, if I had too but not on a regular basis [13:37] <Expelliarmas> Not a chance, getting slammed to the ground is not my thing [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it would probably be a little rough [13:37] <bemused> I always wonder what would happen if you let go [13:37] <DumbleDebbie> seems quite efficient [13:37] <Alexk> it looks like a lot more fun than apparition [13:37] <Aislinn> It's a quick way to get somewhere [13:37] <nympheart> I think I'd try it (like rollercoasters) [13:37] <fawkes28> it reminds of of a rollercoaster ride [13:37] <Pellinore> seems like its uncomphortable but not exceedingly painful.. maybe safer dunno.. [13:37] <MrMcGonagall> Is there any method of travel that doesn't turn your insides out? Ha, ha! [13:37] <DumbleDebbie> like my flight back from Boston Sooner? lol [13:37] <Pellinore> bah can't spell :P [13:37] <Aislinn> none of the wizarding means of transport seem particularly comfortable [13:37] <fawkes28> i think i would do it but not often [13:37] <Alexk> lol debbie [13:37] <MrMcGonagall> Exactly, Debbie. [13:37] <SoonerGryffindor> true Debbie [13:37] <Pleshette> I like how they portrayed portkey travel in the film [13:38] <Poet> I did as well Pleshette [13:38] <MrMcGonagall> Of course, most of our Muggle methods aren't that comfortable, either. [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> me too Pleshette [13:38] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think you can let go [13:38] <Alexk> me too [13:38] <Pleshette> I had a hard time picturing it before that [13:38] <fawkes28> yes, aislinn, makes me glad to be a muggle sometimes [13:38] <Aislinn> yes, pleshette, I thought it was a good depiction [13:38] <nympheart> the floating in the movie annoyed me, but otherwise it was fine [13:38] <DumbleDebbie> didn't the book say something like Harry felt like his finger was magnetized to the boot? [13:38] <MrMcGonagall> It wasn't quite how I imagined it. [13:38] <Pleshette> Righ Nympheart, lol [13:38] <Alexk> i laughed real hard when emma watson screamed [13:38] <bemused> DumbleDebbie - do you mena the portkey holds onto you? [13:38] <Ravendor> yes, I think you're right, Debbie [13:38] <Aislinn> that's true Mr M - not many comfortable ways of traveling in either world [13:38] <DumbleDebbie> yeah bemused [13:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think you can let go [13:39] <Ravendor> once you grab it, you're kinda stuck [13:39] <DumbleDebbie> like once it activates you're locked on until you land [13:39] <Poet> Moving onto chapter 7... Why does Percy have such ardent admiration for Mr. Crouch? What was your first impression of Mr. Crouch? [13:39] <Pleshette> Stuffy [13:39] <Ravendor> he was annoying and not very nice [13:39] <bemused> well, that's quite comforting, in a way [13:39] <MrMcGonagall> Well, Crouch is an important person in the ministry. Percy is the kind who would idolize his bboss. [13:39] <Pellinore> port key description at page 73 bottom.. us ed. [13:39] <fawkes28> percy loves the rules [13:39] <DumbleDebbie> he's everything Percy wants to be, organized and in control [13:39] <Alexk> percy wants more power in the ministry [13:39] <Aislinn> quite uptight [13:39] <SoonerGryffindor> well, Harry descrbes him as looking like a bank manager. I think that says it all [13:39] <Expelliarmas> Maybe because Crouch is everything Arthur isn't? [13:39] <Kelazma> Percy will do what he has to to get ahead. and I think Mr. Crouch is a tightwad type. [13:39] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [13:39] <fawkes28> percy could probably be mr. crouch's son [13:39] <Poet> The fact that he dressed like a banker at a camp ground... It may be Muggle, but certainly doesn't fit in. [13:39] <Kelazma> everything has to be in it's place....like he's OCD [13:39] <Aislinn> Crouch is definitely everything that Percy aspires to [13:39] <DumbleDebbie> Mr Crouch should like that fawkes [13:40] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think it mattered who Percy's boss was . . . Percy would have idolized Dolores Umbridge. [13:40] <Alexk> organized, in control, and cares about appearances an awful lot [13:40] <Pellinore> yea [13:40] <bemused> Crouch is a sort of grown-up Percy, with any Weasley traits ironed out [13:40] <DumbleDebbie> ugh Mr M [13:40] <Pleshette> Yeah I agree with that Mr.M [13:40] <Aislinn> But Crouch is somebody I could easily see Percy turning into Mr M [13:40] <fawkes28> true, mr. m as long as that person was strict and organized and loved the rules [13:40] <SoonerGryffindor> Sadly, I think that Percy wished he could have been Crouch's son after working with him, and maybe that contributed to some of the falling out with his family as well [13:40] <Aislinn> more so than other ministry employees [13:40] <MrMcGonagall> Oh, I agree, Aislinn. [13:40] <Expelliarmas> Crouch is single-minded in his pursuit of duty and rule enforcement; so's Percy [13:40] <Alexk> which makes me wonder if percy was so eager to go into the ministry to have it better than his "poor" family [13:40] <Ravendor> agreed, Sooner [13:40] <DumbleDebbie> aww, that's sad Sooner, but fits [13:40] <Aislinn> Percy would suck up to Ludo, but it wouldn't have been as tight a fit [13:41] <Kelazma> but percy is also what? 18? [13:41] <Pleshette> It's the position he holds and the fact that he is stringent with rules and regulations [13:41] <MrMcGonagall> There is a certain natural affinity between Percy and Crouch. [13:41] <Kelazma> still really impresionable too. [13:41] <Aislinn> yes [13:41] <fawkes28> percy's worst nightmare would be working for someone who was the complete opposite of him [13:41] <Pellinore> i think percy is looking for a new mentor/leader due to being disatisfied by his parents and wanting more, money, respect, fame something that he doesn't have now [13:41] <Kelazma> I think he just turned into what Mr. Crouch would have wanted most. [13:41] <MrMcGonagall> I'm just waiting for the day Percy will start forgetting his subordinates' names. [13:41] <fawkes28> which is why he was so excited about the job [13:41] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, 18 is still so very, very young [13:41] <DumbleDebbie> but his father works tehre Alex, and he's not rich [13:41] <Pleshette> I'm not sure that Percy is attracted to the money aspect [13:41] <bemused> I doubt if Percy appreciates the chaos at home [13:41] <Poet> What was your first impression of Bagman? Why didn’t Percy have the same regard for him as he did for Mr. Crouch? [13:41] <fawkes28> and i bet he will, mr. m [13:41] <Pleshette> It's more the power and respect that he wants I think [13:41] <Aislinn> I don't think it's the money either [13:41] <Kelazma> percy, like most of the weasley kids wants to be set apart. [13:41] <DumbleDebbie> buffoon [13:41] <Alexk> Percy's family doesn't give the best appearance [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [13:42] <fawkes28> i thought ludo was like gilderoy [13:42] <Kelazma> Ludo's kinda puffed up inside. [13:42] <Ravendor> Ludo was kinda annoying [13:42] <MrMcGonagall> Bagman . . . everybody's friend, dim bulb. [13:42] <Aislinn> Ludo is not a rule follower [13:42] <fawkes28> i honestly did [13:42] <bemused> Bagman's a bit less organised [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> good comparison fawkes [13:42] <Pleshette> lol Mr.M [13:42] <Aislinn> this would grate on Percy [13:42] <Pellinore> percy seems to mimic crouch and crouch doesn't like bagman [13:42] <Alexk> Ludo was more of a gambler [13:42] <DumbleDebbie> I tink it's funny there's a board game in the UK named "Ludo" [13:42] <Expelliarmas> Like gilderoy, but without the ... brains [13:42] <Kelazma> I think his 'glory days' have carried him too far [13:42] <fawkes28> he is very relaxed and happy-go-lucky [13:42] <fawkes28> not a care in the world [13:42] <Ravendor> he doesn't take anything seriously [13:42] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie, and with sagging "looks" [13:42] <Pleshette> He's like that middle-aged guy that doesn't want to grow up [13:42] <Expelliarmas> Percy would see Bagman as too loose [13:42] <Kelazma> he was a sports start that's gotten along on his name alone and that's not so good when talking about 'government' official types [13:42] <Poet> Bagman seems to be symbolic of many people in the wizarding world at this point...enjoying life and not paying much attention to protecting themselves [13:42] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly Pleshetter [13:43] <fawkes28> percy would probably resign if he worked for ludo [13:43] <Expelliarmas> Bagman lives off his former athletic glory days, and revels in it [13:43] <DumbleDebbie> Percy'd probably get Ludo fired so he could take his place [13:43] <fawkes28> i don't think he would be able to spend that much time with ludo without twitching [13:43] <Expelliarmas> oh no, fawkes, Percy would use Bagman to make connections [13:43] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, someone like Percy would be good to work for Bagman because they would offset each other's weaknesses [13:43] *** nympheart has quit [Bye] [13:43] <Alexk> true debbie [13:43] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Expie. [13:43] *** nympheart has joined #lounge [13:43] <bemused> I think he'd get too anxious with someone like Ludo in charge - no rules [13:44] <Pellinore> true sooner, dunno if percy would appreciate that though [13:44] <DumbleDebbie> Ludo'd have Percy doing all the real work Sooner? [13:44] <Expelliarmas> Percy is nothing if not an opportunist looking to make his way up the ladder [13:44] <SoonerGryffindor> probably Debbie [13:44] <nympheart> "Ludo" means "I play" right? [13:44] <MrMcGonagall> It wouldn't be the match made in heaven he has working for Crouch, but Percy wouldn't quit if he worked for Bagman instead. [13:44] <DumbleDebbie> that would fit [13:44] <Pleshette> Yes Expel, I agree [13:44] <Poet> Why do you think Crouch couldn’t remember Percy’s surname? You’d think this wouldn’t be so hard, given he’s worked with Arthur. [13:44] <Alexk> i agree expel [13:44] <DumbleDebbie> does it nymph? [13:44] <Expelliarmas> Ohh, Weatherby! [13:44] <Ravendor> because he doesn't care [13:44] <DumbleDebbie> he was under a large bit of strain [13:44] <nympheart> according to special edition Clue [13:44] <MrMcGonagall> I think it's part of Crouch's hauteur. [13:45] <fawkes28> i think crouch had a lot of stress in his life [13:45] <Pleshette> Percy's one assistant in a long line, to Crouch he's not worth remembering [13:45] <Expelliarmas> Percy doesn't register with Crouch--he doesn't stand out, too much of a yes man [13:45] <Aislinn> I doubt he gave any thought to the fact that Percy was Arthur's son [13:45] <MrMcGonagall> He can't be bothered to remember everybody's name. [13:45] <nympheart> I agree expie [13:45] <fawkes28> and percy never corrected him [13:45] <bemused> He's a subordinate - one step up from a house elf [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was there for comic releif, becuase honestly it doesnt fit Crouch's character. He seems like the kind of guy that would know every detail [13:45] <Aislinn> exactly bemused [13:45] <nympheart> that's a fair point fawkes [13:45] <fawkes28> percy would have been happy being called "hey, you" [13:45] <nympheart> Percy doesn't really care [13:45] <MrMcGonagall> I think it highlights Percy as a bounder. [13:45] <Pellinore> dunno, think it was more comic relief at that point, er what Sooner said ;p [13:45] <Expelliarmas> he's a subordinate, bemused, who chooses to be one step up from a house-elf, more servant than employee [13:45] <Alexk> percy crawled into bed that night and sobbed for hours and hours until there were no tears left [13:45] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner, unless it was a hint as to the mental, emotinoal strain on Crouch at thetime [13:45] <SoonerGryffindor> good point [13:45] <MrMcGonagall> Comic relief, but it serves a purpose, too. [13:45] <Ravendor> that could be, Debbie [13:46] <Pleshette> I agree Debbie [13:46] <DumbleDebbie> lol Alex [13:46] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M - I think it was a clue to Crouch's personality and disregard for other people [13:46] <DumbleDebbie> it was nice to seem pompus Perce put in his place [13:46] <Pleshette> I think his thoughts were on his son hidden in top box [13:46] <Expelliarmas> I agree, DD, Crouch has other things on his mind [13:46] <Aislinn> which becomes more important, later on in the story [13:46] <MrMcGonagall> We laugh all the harder at Percy, but it is perhaps an indicator that there's something not right with Crouch. [13:46] <Poet> With whom was Percy more annoyed, Bagman for offering the bet, or the twins for making the bet? Why did Percy care at all? He’s not the twins father, it wasn’t his money? [13:46] <Pellinore> crouch wasn't Imperio'd at that point? Correct? [13:46] <nympheart> I think the twins [13:47] <Pleshette> And you knew with Fred and George there, they would never let him live it down [13:47] <Poet> Nah, not yet [13:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he just likes to control everyone aroud him [13:47] <bemused> He doesn't want his brothers showing him up [13:47] <DumbleDebbie> he must've seen it as breaking some sort of rule [13:47] <Alexk> i don't like percy's character, he thinks too much of himself, he thinks he's better than his entire family [13:47] <MrMcGonagall> Percy is annoyed at everything. [13:47] <nympheart> Percy doesn't want to have a "bad" image and his brothers were doing that [13:47] <fawkes28> i think he was annoyed at both for different reasons [13:47] <DumbleDebbie> he's a stickler for rules [13:47] <Ravendor> he cared because it's his family and they were a reflection of him in a way [13:47] <Aislinn> me too, sooner [13:47] <Alexk> percy's afraid of his family embarassing him any more [13:47] <Expelliarmas> Anything which might reflect negatively on Percy is a concern for Percy. He was mad at both Bagman and the twins. [13:47] <fawkes28> good point, ravendor [13:48] <Aislinn> and he would see it as a poor reflection on him, since they are his brothers [13:48] <Kelazma> if anyone, percy should be ashamed and embarassed of himself [13:48] <MrMcGonagall> Poor Percy. A veritable Hyacinth Bucket. [13:48] <Alexk> he doesn't want the twins involved with something so against the rules [13:48] <Aislinn> LOL Mr M [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr M [13:48] <Alexk> lol Mrm [13:48] * nympheart is confused [13:48] <Poet> I think he's a bit mordified that the twins would be supporting a ministry official in such an unethical type of action - the head of games shouldn't really be collecting bets, should he? [13:48] <fawkes28> every moment for percy is an opportunity to move up in the world and he doesnt want anything ruining it [13:48] <DumbleDebbie> it's a UK TV show nymph [13:48] <MrMcGonagall> It's a british TV show character - Keeping Up Appearances. [13:48] <Alexk> Hyacinth is a character from an english show called "Keeping up Appearances [13:48] <nympheart> I see [13:48] <Alexk> one of the only shows they show here in the us [13:48] <Poet> What did you think of the twins betting all their money on the match? What does this say about them? [13:49] <MrMcGonagall> They're risktakers. [13:49] <fawkes28> they are risk takers [13:49] <Pellinore> serious risk takers [13:49] <nympheart> agreed [13:49] <Pellinore> hehe [13:49] <Poet> They know what they want and they go after it [13:49] <Pleshette> Not a very smart move [13:49] <Expelliarmas> Wheelers and dealers--they have no problem putting themselves on the line to get ahead. No fear. [13:49] <DumbleDebbie> true Poet, sirius conflict of interest for Ludo (with the betting) [13:49] <MrMcGonagall> And they know their Quidditch strategy! [13:49] <Aislinn> yes, the risk was worth the reward to them [13:49] <MrMcGonagall> I think their bet made perfect sense, given the strengths of the teams playing. [13:49] <fawkes28> people who are very successful often take big risks [13:49] <Pleshette> Gambling isn't the way to get ahead [13:49] <DumbleDebbie> yes, they certainly do know their Quidditch [13:49] <nympheart> they knew about the players [13:49] <Expelliarmas> Something Percy would never do [13:49] <Ravendor> I agree, Pleshette [13:49] <fawkes28> exactly, expie [13:49] <SoonerGryffindor> its not like they gambled on something they didnt kow about though [13:49] <Aislinn> it was a shrewdly strategic bet, yes [13:50] <SoonerGryffindor> like Ludo [13:50] <MrMcGonagall> I would never gamble that way, but it's entirely in keeping with the twins' personalities. [13:50] <DumbleDebbie> they obviously saw it as a golden opportunity to get astronmical odds [13:50] <Expelliarmas> boy, they got the bet down to the last detail [13:50] <Alexk> they're clever risk takers, who'd probably not actually give Ludo anything, they'd come up with something [13:50] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [13:50] <fawkes28> yes, debbie [13:50] <Pleshette> True Sooner, but it was a tremendous risk, anything can happen in Quidditch [13:50] <Alexk> setting toads free in the crowd [13:50] <nympheart> but they did give the money alex [13:50] <nympheart> Ludo kept it [13:50] <Aislinn> but risk is what makes it fun for them Pleshette [13:50] <Pellinore> i remember someone asking if the twins had a time turner and JkR saying no, they took the risk [13:50] <MrMcGonagall> True, they were banking on the fact that Krum wouldn't get the Snitch before Ireland built a lead. [13:50] <Poet> Was it Bagman’s duty to send out a search party for an employee (Bertha Jorkins)? [13:50] <DumbleDebbie> good point nymph [13:50] <Alexk> i know, so unlike them [13:50] <Expelliarmas> That's why it's a gamble, because there's a risk of loss [13:50] <nympheart> yes [13:51] <Pleshette> But they seem serious about starting their business [13:51] <Aislinn> yes, Poet, I think it was [13:51] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, Bagman ought to have done it. What a dunce he is. [13:51] *** Kelazma has quit [Bye] [13:51] <Ravendor> yes, definitely [13:51] <SoonerGryffindor> probably [13:51] <DumbleDebbie> If she's his responsiblity, he should've acted more responsibly [13:51] <nympheart> he was responsible for her when she disappeared from work [13:51] <fawkes28> she is his employee who hasnt shown up for work [13:51] <Pleshette> they'd be starting at squarrre one if they lost [13:51] <bemused> The others seemed to think it was, Poet [13:51] <SoonerGryffindor> it depends on what kind of seach network the MoM has [13:51] <nympheart> you'd think a great one, sooner [13:51] <bemused> Interesting example of wizards looking out for one another [13:51] <fawkes28> and he hasnt heard from her at all i'd been concerned [13:51] <Expelliarmas> No, Bertha is an adult, she should be able to take care of herself. Why didn't her relatives in Albania inform the authorities? [13:51] <DumbleDebbie> was there ever a missing wizard report filed though? [13:51] <Poet> I agree, in the wizard world the Ministry is in charge of pretty much everything, so I do think it's his duty to get a search party underway. [13:51] <MrMcGonagall> Responsibility and Bagman - can't use those two words in a sentence without "lack of." [13:51] <DumbleDebbie> maybe the MoM has to have a report before they start looking [13:52] <Pellinore> seems like several other characters chimed in that they should go after her so i'd say yes. [13:52] <SoonerGryffindor> she is an adult though. Just because she worked for him did not mean that he needed to go personally search. [13:52] <Alexk> well, i'm sure it didn't have to be ludo who did it [13:52] <fawkes28> she is an adult but if i didnt show up for work i'm pretty sure people would inquire as to where i was [13:52] <nympheart> not personally, but file her missing and get the appropriate authorities on it [13:52] <Expelliarmas> If the MoM were that concerned, they could've sent aurors [13:52] <Pellinore> or an owl [13:52] <nympheart> someone should care enough to try to look for her [13:52] <DumbleDebbie> she must not have had any family sad [13:52] <Poet> True - had they not sent any owls? [13:52] <Expelliarmas> she was visiting a cousin in Albania [13:52] <Ravendor> yes, nympheart [13:52] <SoonerGryffindor> inquire yes, and ask assistance to fnd her, but Ludo also has his own responsibilities [13:52] <Aislinn> she was actually visiting family [13:52] <MrMcGonagall> Would you really send aurors on a missing person report, though? [13:53] <DumbleDebbie> that's sad no one cared enugh to send omeon to look [13:53] <Pleshette> I agree Debbie [13:53] <nympheart> well, what else do the aurors do during peace? [13:53] <SoonerGryffindor> it is sad Debbie [13:53] <fawkes28> no one thought there was any danger in the world at the time [13:53] <bemused> only if you suspected dark wizards, I think [13:53] <nympheart> they're the police force [13:53] <Expelliarmas> I thought the aurors were law enforcement? Also, they had to know Albania was LV's last known whereabouts [13:53] <fawkes28> it was a very busy time at the MoM too [13:53] <Pleshette> Weren't there rumors of LV in Albania, or was that not widely known in the Ministry [13:54] <Poet> Why do wizards have such a rough time with Muggle clothing? Can’t they just look at pictures in Muggle magazines and get a clue? What did you think of old Archie (in the nightgown)? [13:54] <Pellinore> i see them more as a Special Police Task force instead of general police [13:54] <nympheart> I think the ministry knew [13:54] <nympheart> DD did and he still got along with them [13:54] <Alexk> perhaps then, the ministry had prior warning to some kind of problem with Bertha, maybe they knew something might happen to her [13:54] <Aislinn> I thought Archie was hysterical [13:54] <Pleshette> That frustrated me! [13:54] <nympheart> I don't understand that at all [13:54] <DumbleDebbie> the scene w/Archie is priceless LOL [13:54] <bemused> I think all that's for laughs, really [13:54] <Aislinn> and probably there for comic relief [13:54] <fawkes28> i think jo just does this to make us laugh [13:54] <Pleshette> How hard is it to put on a pair of pants and a shirt? [13:54] <Expelliarmas> I loved Archie! But don't see why it's so hard to fake being a Muggle. [13:54] <Ravendor> I agree, fawkes [13:54] <Pellinore> comic relief that can be explained away as them being so disconnected from muggle society [13:54] <nympheart> I don't think they always wear full robes [13:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I still dont get it. They would have been less conspicuous had they just worn their robes [13:54] <DumbleDebbie> they do seem horribly clueless [13:54] <Pleshette> Yeah, I think Jo was just having some fun [13:54] <MrMcGonagall> It doesn't seem like it should be so difficult. I think it's done for comic relief to highlight the differences between the two worlds. [13:54] <Aislinn> it's to show what a quirky little community the wizarding community is [13:54] <nympheart> how would you ride a broom? [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [13:55] <Ravendor> agreed, MrM [13:55] <Expelliarmas> I don't think it's comic relief, though, it's to make a point--they are isolated by choice from Muggles [13:55] <Alexk> what i find strange is, in the third and fourth movie, Mr.Weasley has no problem at all dressing like a muggle, nor does Ginny or Ron [13:55] <Poet> It's a great bit of comedy. The Muggles way outweight the wizards, so I assume if this was reality, the wizards would have had lots of practice wearing normal clothes, especially as kids [13:55] <MrMcGonagall> This chapter just had me rolling on the floor with the descriptions of wizards trying to act like Muggles. [13:55] <Alexk> but they do in the books [13:55] <fawkes28> plus some of them like archie liked wearing certain types of clothes [13:55] <bemused> The other poitn seems to be that the kids assimilate better than adults [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> however, it does make you wonder what Archie wears under his robes. unsure [13:55] <nympheart> movies don't count [13:55] <DumbleDebbie> maybe she's trying to point out that 'normal' to one group of people is complex, and confusing to others from a different culture? [13:55] <Aislinn> that's because the movies are not the books, alex, and are not directed by fans [13:55] <Poet> interesting, yes [13:55] <MrMcGonagall> I think Arthur has a better idea of how to dress than most. [13:55] <nympheart> lol sooner [13:55] <Pleshette> Or doesn't wear Sooner [13:55] <Alexk> unfortunately [13:55] <SoonerGryffindor> right [13:56] <Aislinn> that's a good point debbie [13:56] <Poet> Shouldn’t wizards have some concept of Muggle money? Is it possible for the wizard world to be completely isolated from the Muggles? Or are they bound to have some interactions? [13:56] <nympheart> yes, Arthur did get it on his first try [13:56] <MrMcGonagall> Most wizards proba This post has been edited by Expelliarmas: Nov 11 2006, 04:30 PM --------------------  All Aboard! |
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