Transcript From P3 Chat - 10/15/06, Lord Voldemort's Future Goals & Plans |
 Oct 16 2006, 08:07 PM
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Today's Moderators: Aislinn, Theoriser, Expelliarmas, Poet, SoonerGryffindor and futureweasley
*** Topic is: Lord Voldemort's Future Plans & Goals *** Topic set by Expelliarmas [Sun Apr 9 13:10:46 2006] <An_Eternal_Night> hello! [15:00] <futureweasley> hi there [15:00] <JaneMarple9> Hi All biggrin [15:00] <Theoriser> hi! [15:00] <futureweasley> I almost forgot to get here! [15:00] <futureweasley> lol [15:00] <An_Eternal_Night> I'm so glad I remembered [15:01] <JaneMarple9> Highlight of my week biggrin [15:01] <futureweasley> I'm glad, too! [15:01] <An_Eternal_Night> I missed the chat yesterday though... [15:01] <futureweasley> what did you get on your WOMBATs AEN? [15:01] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [15:02] <An_Eternal_Night> I actually got an O! I was so surprised [15:02] <JaneMarple9> Hi Dietician [15:02] <futureweasley> that's amazing! [15:02] <futureweasley> great job! [15:02] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hello everyone! [15:02] <An_Eternal_Night> thanks! [15:02] <An_Eternal_Night> Hi! [15:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i'm actually early this time around [15:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> it's amazing [15:03] <futureweasley> whoo hoo TAD!! [15:03] <futureweasley> there are a couple of regulars who aren't here yet...hmmmm [15:03] * TheAzkabanDietitian hoots all about it [15:03] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [15:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hmmm indeed [15:03] <futureweasley> hi Molly! [15:03] *** mollywobbles23 has quit [Bye] [15:03] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [15:04] <TheAzkabanDietitian> aislinn isn't even here [15:04] <futureweasley> hi Aislinn [15:04] <An_Eternal_Night> hi Aislinn! [15:04] <JaneMarple9> she is now smile [15:04] <An_Eternal_Night> speaking of [15:04] <Aislinn> hi! [15:04] <Expelliarmas> Aislinn was having trouble getting the door [15:04] <JaneMarple9> hi Aislinn! [15:04] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [15:04] <futureweasley> wb molly [15:04] <Aislinn> I have definitely inherited harryfreak's computer potergeist! [15:04] <JaneMarple9> hi mollywobbles smile [15:04] <An_Eternal_Night> oh no [15:04] *** JillianS642 has joined #lounge [15:04] <An_Eternal_Night> hi mollywobbles! [15:04] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [15:04] <Aislinn> or poltergeist, even tongue [15:04] <futureweasley> hi Jillian [15:04] *** AnnaNoe has joined #lounge [15:04] <CedrellaBlack> hi guys [15:05] <futureweasley> hi Ced! [15:05] <futureweasley> hi Anna [15:05] <Aislinn> hi everyone smile [15:05] <JaneMarple9> You can keep it for a while Aislin, I don't want it thank you! [15:05] <AnnaNoe> hi [15:05] <JillianS642> hidey-ho! [15:05] <CedrellaBlack> hey FW! [15:05] <An_Eternal_Night> hello everyone! [15:05] <futureweasley> we're filling up now! [15:05] <Aislinn> biggrin [15:05] <mollywobbles23> hi [15:05] *** mollywobbles23 has quit [Bye] [15:05] <CedrellaBlack> DIBS! on this color =] [15:05] <futureweasley> lol [15:05] <futureweasley> good luck with that [15:05] <JillianS642> ugly purple it is. Yep, got distracted by all the trick or treat things [15:05] <AnnaNoe> how u get colors.. [15:05] <futureweasley> Mods can't even "dibs" on colors! [15:05] <TheAzkabanDietitian> oh! there she is... [15:05] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [15:05] <CedrellaBlack> teeheee =] [15:06] <Expelliarmas> look at where you type Anna, see the >>? hit the link and chose a color, just not green [15:06] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:06] <CedrellaBlack> So i was transcribing episode 1.5 of MATACast for like half an hour and im only on the 3rd minute [15:06] <JaneMarple9> Hi sooner smile [15:06] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [15:06] <An_Eternal_Night> hi Sooner! [15:06] <SoonerGryffindor> hello everyone [15:06] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:06] <AnnaNoe> ooo [15:06] <JaneMarple9> hi Fawkes! [15:06] <futureweasley> transcribing is very difficult! [15:06] <Theoriser> transcribing is hard, Cedrella! [15:06] <JillianS642> ouch, Cedrella [15:06] <futureweasley> Fawkes!!! [15:07] <CedrellaBlack> it is! [15:07] <fawkes28> hi everyone! [15:07] * futureweasley hugs Fawkes [15:07] <Theoriser> I transcribe LFC from time to time [15:07] <AnnaNoe> alrighty [15:07] <Expelliarmas> alright [15:07] <Theoriser> well, help transcribe it [15:07] <An_Eternal_Night> hi fawkes [15:07] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hey anna! [15:07] <futureweasley> brown looks good on you Anna [15:07] <CedrellaBlack> lol and thank goodnes 1.5 is only a 16 min episode [15:07] <JaneMarple9> sounds like hard work Ced [15:07] <AnnaNoe> hah thx [15:07] * fawkes28 glad future still loves fawkes [15:07] <CedrellaBlack> weheres sooner? [15:07] <futureweasley> she's here [15:07] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm hre [15:07] <Aislinn> even after a certain message got displayed around the boards [15:07] <JillianS642> bravo on the filk. [15:07] <CedrellaBlack> oh lol [15:08] <futureweasley> now, why wouldn't I love you, fawkes? [15:08] <futureweasley> thanks Jillian! [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, now you guys can see me better laugh [15:08] <fawkes28> LOL [15:08] <CedrellaBlack> i was looking for you with the little @ sign and i didnt find you [15:08] <futureweasley> we had a ball doing it! [15:08] <Aislinn> she was hiding [15:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> sneaky [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [15:08] <CedrellaBlack> sneaky sooner [15:08] <CedrellaBlack> AHAHAHAHA [15:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol [15:08] <JillianS642> that's good - it seemed like fun!! [15:08] <JaneMarple9> she had her invisabilty cloak on! [15:08] <CedrellaBlack> lol i make myself laugh -] [15:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> sooner has an invisility cloak [15:08] <CedrellaBlack> dun dun dun [15:08] <Aislinn> lol jane [15:08] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks for the kind comment on the filk Jillian [15:09] <CedrellaBlack> sooner if you have an extra invisibility cloak hook me up with one =] [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, I got lucky because I was not even supposed to be here [15:09] <JaneMarple9> and me! [15:09] <JillianS642> I just can't believe how good they all were - people are so creative, it's almost frightening. [15:09] <Aislinn> yeah, I could use one of those myself [15:09] <CedrellaBlack> why not? [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> but we've been having really bad weather so all the soccer games were cancelled [15:09] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the horror [15:09] <Aislinn> they are amazing, aren't they jillian? [15:09] * Expelliarmas thinks Sooner should take orders for ICs [15:09] <JillianS642> and we're lucky you're here, too, sooner! [15:09] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [15:09] <CedrellaBlack> uno for ced! [15:09] <fawkes28> yes, were glad you are here [15:09] * SoonerGryffindor hugs everyone in the room [15:10] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [15:10] <CedrellaBlack> and i want it express order [15:10] <futureweasley> hi cloudpic [15:10] * JaneMarple9 agrees, she would be first in line for one! [15:10] <AnnaNoe> aw hugs [15:10] <JillianS642> Ok, enough fawning. Do we have a thread for what we're going to be talking about? Probably should have looked for that first, eh? [15:10] <CedrellaBlack> hi cloud! [15:10] <JaneMarple9> Hi Cloud [15:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> cloudpic at last! [15:10] <fawkes28> hi cloudpic [15:10] *** Hermy-One has joined #lounge [15:10] <cloudpic> Howdy all! [15:10] <CedrellaBlack> hi hermy [15:10] <JillianS642> carp. Thou shalt not say "eh". Thou shalt not say "eh" [15:10] <futureweasley> hi Hermy-One [15:10] <Hermy-One> hi everyone! [15:10] <An_Eternal_Night> hi cloudpic and hermy! [15:10] <Aislinn> Cloudpic - you made it smile [15:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hey hermy [15:10] <cloudpic> Not late... yay! [15:10] <Hermy-One> I've never done a Croner Booth chat before... [15:10] *** mollywobbles23 has joined #lounge [15:10] <Hermy-One> Corner* [15:10] <mollywobbles23> goodness [15:11] <CedrellaBlack> FW are we going to hear some crazy theories today smile [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> hello cp, hermy-one and mollywobbles [15:11] <futureweasley> you will LOVE it Hermy! It's fun...fast and furious ( but in a good way ) [15:11] <Aislinn> welcome hermy-one [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> CB chats rock [15:11] * futureweasley has no idea what CedrellaBlack is referring to [15:11] <CedrellaBlack> its so much fun hermy! [15:11] <mollywobbles23> hi! It wasn't showing my words earlier, so I had to wait a bit before trying again. [15:11] <JaneMarple9> should be interesting talking about our favourite villian...and not Snape smile [15:11] <Aislinn> we're all about the fun in here biggrin [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> lol future [15:11] * CedrellaBlack thinks fw does [15:11] <futureweasley> tehehe [15:11] <TheAzkabanDietitian> no snape is not so bad [15:11] * CedrellaBlack hugs fw [15:11] <SoonerGryffindor> woot! [15:11] <mollywobbles23> Found an awesome pic of Cedric via Shawn of the Dead in the lounge, though. [15:12] * futureweasley hugs CedrellaBlack right back [15:12] * SoonerGryffindor high fives TAD [15:12] *** JillianS642 has quit [Bye] [15:12] <Hermy-One> Snape is good... but we won't get into that... [15:12] <An_Eternal_Night> they do rock [15:12] <An_Eternal_Night> hahaha [15:12] *** JillianS642 has joined #lounge [15:12] *** An_Eternal_Night has quit [Bye] [15:12] <futureweasley> no, we won't [15:12] *** An_Eternal_Night has joined #lounge [15:12] <CedrellaBlack> the CB chats rock! [15:12] <JillianS642> woops, shouldna clicked on that. [15:12] <AnnaNoe> shawn of the dead is the best btw [15:12] <Aislinn> yay - you found one of the tricks! [15:12] <fawkes28> look what happens when i walk away for a second...snape talk [15:12] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Jillian [15:12] <An_Eternal_Night> yes they do! [15:12] <futureweasley> we will start at about quarter after...just an FYI [15:12] *** An_Eternal_Night has quit [Bye] [15:12] <CedrellaBlack> i found so many tricks [15:12] *** An_Eternal_Night has joined #lounge [15:12] <CedrellaBlack> they were as good as the treats [15:12] <mollywobbles23> I've found a lot! I'm saving them in a folder because they're hilarious. [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> okay guys..... stay away from the backspace button laugh [15:13] <futureweasley> the tricks were funny too [15:13] <CedrellaBlack> I put a link to them in my favorites [15:13] <Aislinn> has anyone tried the one in the Corner Booth? [15:13] <CedrellaBlack> lol sooner [15:13] <Hermy-One> I can't stay too long, I have sooo much homework to do sad [15:13] <JaneMarple9> Yes the hunt are good! [15:13] <Aislinn> I changed it about an hour ago [15:13] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i've been finding a lot of tricks and treats.. which is very odd mind you [15:13] <futureweasley> Anna, I LOVE Shaun of the Dead!! [15:13] <CedrellaBlack> Uhmm i think so [15:13] <AnnaNoe> its very funny [15:13] <CedrellaBlack> i dont remmeber [15:13] *** Alexk has joined #lounge [15:13] <futureweasley> that movie is awesome, and Cedric as one of the zombies is to die for [15:13] <mollywobbles23> My favorite game is the one where the sheep have to cross the street and river. [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> everyone make sure to visit all of the forums as the mods there are working hard to put in tricks and treats everywhere throughout Leasky [15:13] <TheAzkabanDietitian> never seen it [15:13] <futureweasley> hi Alex [15:13] *** ststevens has joined #lounge [15:13] <mollywobbles23> Haven't got past level two, though. [15:13] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Alex [15:14] <Alexk> hello [15:14] <futureweasley> hi ststevens [15:14] <Hermy-One> I've found many of the tricks/treats, they're so much fun! [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome ststevens [15:14] <fawkes28> it is fun trying to find them smile [15:14] *** An_Eternal_Night has quit [Bye] [15:14] <Hermy-One> (I'm very bad at the games, though) [15:14] <CedrellaBlack> RONROX! [15:14] <CedrellaBlack> ahahahaha [15:14] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:14] <JaneMarple9> my poor sheep keep getting run oversad I'm a sheep killer! [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a good one Ced [15:14] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol [15:14] *** An_Eternal_Night has joined #lounge [15:14] <futureweasley> Ron as Gene Simmons...that's very funny [15:14] * SoonerGryffindor loves the sheep game [15:14] <Aislinn> keep looking - they are changing all the time, and in all locations smile [15:14] <mollywobbles23> Yeah, that one made me laugh out loud... [15:14] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:14] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i know fw! [15:14] <CedrellaBlack> the sheep game? [15:14] <CedrellaBlack> i havent seen that one! [15:14] <Hermy-One> lol [15:14] <TheAzkabanDietitian> what about snape and my little pony? [15:14] <mollywobbles23> omg [15:14] <mollywobbles23> I about died [15:14] <SoonerGryffindor> its like frogger, but with sheep [15:14] <fawkes28> oh i saw that oh! [15:15] <fawkes28> *one [15:15] <Aislinn> I love that one TAD [15:15] <CedrellaBlack> ive seen the mummy one, anagrams and mic [15:15] <CedrellaBlack> mice* [15:15] <Hermy-One> that was a great pic. [15:15] <futureweasley> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [15:15] <futureweasley> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [15:15] <futureweasley> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [15:15] <futureweasley> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [15:15] <futureweasley> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [15:16] <Theoriser> Tom Marvolo Riddle was born of a witch mother (Merope Gaunt) and a Muggle father (Tom Riddle, Sr.) in 1926. Tom Riddle Jr.'s mother died giving birth to him, and he was raised in a Muggle orphanage not knowing of his ancestry or magical powers until Albus Dumbledore came to visit him to let him know he had been accepted by Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. [15:16] <Theoriser> Previous to this summer, we know that some of Tom's hobbies included conversing with snakes, torturing fluffy little rabbits and doing unspeakable things to his felllow orphans and then keeping trophies to remind himself of all the good times. [15:16] <Theoriser> At Hogwarts, he excelled by winning awards for services to the school and an award for magical merit. He was head boy in his seventh year, and premier member of the Slug Club. Some of his closest "friends" in Slytherin were already calling him Voldemort. [15:16] <Theoriser> In September JKR announced that Voldemort would get some much needed "leg room" in book 7 and that he was carrying out all sorts of grisly plans. Today we are here to discuss what some of his plans may be and what exactly Voldemort's ultimate goals are. [15:16] <Theoriser> What did you first think when you heard the news that since Dumbledore was dead that Voldemort would now have more "leg room?" [15:17] * TheAzkabanDietitian was scared [15:17] <mollywobbles23> "Uh Oh" [15:17] <CedrellaBlack> dun dun dun [15:17] <cloudpic> Death! Mayhem! Pain! Chaos! [15:17] <JaneMarple9> what a nice little boybiggrin I thought it means that he'll be able to recruit more death-eaters [15:17] <An_Eternal_Night> very frightening [15:17] <futureweasley> right...the plot thickens!! [15:17] <Aislinn> sounds like there are some scary times coming [15:17] <JillianS642> I think it means he's going to be out and about, doing more stuff than previously. To what end, however ... well, that's why I'm here! [15:17] <Hermy-One> I thought of Voldie sitting back in a chair sticking his legs out... haha [15:17] <fawkes28> i thought that many of our characters will be gone [15:17] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:17] <Alexk> He's not going to have to hide behind other people anymore [15:17] <Expelliarmas> With DD dead, the good side is in some disarray; more chances to create chaos [15:18] <AnnaNoe> i think voldemort will have more leg room as in he can get to harry more easily bcuz dumbledore gones.. [15:18] <CedrellaBlack> i heard that dun dun dun dunnnn song playing in my head aka UH OH the world is in trouble! [15:18] <Alexk> a killing spree [15:18] <mollywobbles23> I did too for a sec, hermy. I pictured him sunbathing for a much needed tan. [15:18] <futureweasley> I worry that Jo's going to show us just how terrible LV's reign can be [15:18] <Hermy-One> lol [15:18] <cloudpic> Or that theme from Jaws.... Cedrella! [15:18] <JaneMarple9> Yes, Voldemort's more powerful with no Dumbledore [15:18] <SoonerGryffindor> it really makes me nervous as to what is yet to come [15:18] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I saw his leg slipping through the front doors of Hogwarts [15:18] <CedrellaBlack> YES! that one too! [15:18] <futureweasley> me too Sooner [15:18] <mollywobbles23> Is weird that I kinda hope we're going to see how terrible his reign can be? [15:18] <Expelliarmas> Jo is going to show us just how bad an unfettered LV is [15:18] <fawkes28> i keep thinking that harry needs to hurry it up and get rid of him [15:18] <futureweasley> yes Fawkes! [15:18] <Aislinn> I think it means that he is heading to Hogwarts to take over the school [15:19] <Aislinn> lots of leg room there [15:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> right aislinn [15:19] <mollywobbles23> We've been hearing about how horrible it was in the first war. I'm really curious. [15:19] <futureweasley> Harry needs to throw LV and all his Horcruxes behind the veil and be done with it!! [15:19] <JaneMarple9> Be nice if Harry got rid of him in the first chapter [15:19] <fawkes28> however, i think with dumbeldore gone that voldemort is going to get a little too carried away and slip up [15:19] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:19] <JillianS642> molly: I think we have to see how bad it can be, so that people will quit trying to be all neutral. They'll have to see how bad it could get, and get inspired by that. [15:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> aw no jane! [15:19] <CedrellaBlack> i think it is going to be worse than it was the first time he was in power becuase this time he has one goal: Kill Harry Potter and anything in my way [15:19] <JaneMarple9> then have a fun book to round the series off [15:19] <cloudpic> He'll be recruiting more magical creatures opening now Dumbledore's not around [15:19] <cloudpic> *openly [15:19] <CedrellaBlack> gp cloud [15:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> which leads to the question of whether or not we'll se NEW creatures...? [15:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i hope so [15:20] <cloudpic> I suspect you're right, CedrellaBlack [15:20] <mollywobbles23> I hope so [15:20] <Hermy-One> I think that the main battle will be at the very end of Book 7 (sring/beginning of summer) so Voldie will have so much time to get up to who-knows what [15:20] <futureweasley> no, I don't think so TAD [15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> good points everyone! [15:20] <JaneMarple9> New creatures...I hope so [15:20] <futureweasley> book 7 is to wrap up...not to introduce...I hope!! [15:20] <cloudpic> Won't need new creatures, will we? [15:20] <JillianS642> oh, good point, Azkaban! [15:20] <CedrellaBlack> and theres going to be so much havoc becuase people will be braking out of azzy so much easier now without the deatheaters [15:20] <AnnaNoe> more inferi type creatures [15:20] <cloudpic> He'll get more giants, dementors...trolls [15:20] <JillianS642> Always need new creatures, cloud! [15:20] <JillianS642> ;) [15:20] <An_Eternal_Night> new creatures... like the fiery ones that Luna was talking about? [15:20] <mollywobbles23> I want to see manticores and chimeras and all sorts of other mythological creatures on both sides. [15:20] <CedrellaBlack> demmentors* [15:20] <cloudpic> But I worry about the goblins [15:20] <JaneMarple9> I don't think there will be too many new characters [15:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> well, we're going to need surprises--so we need some "new" things I think [15:20] <futureweasley> yes Anna...I'm worried that LV will use James and Lily as Inferi! [15:20] <mollywobbles23> me too, cloudpic [15:20] <Hermy-One> good point cloudpic [15:20] <Expelliarmas> everyone will be able to break out of azkaan, except for Shunpike [15:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> not characters though [15:20] <CedrellaBlack> same cloud [15:20] <JaneMarple9> some goblins might be good [15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [15:21] <CedrellaBlack> ahaha lol expel [15:21] <mollywobbles23> wouldn't they be skeletons by now? not to be morbid. [15:21] <AnnaNoe> that would be horrible on harry if he did, fw [15:21] <fawkes28> we have too many characters as it is [15:21] <An_Eternal_Night> it would be awful [15:21] <Aislinn> I think the goblins will go to the good side [15:21] <futureweasley> with the Wombats introducing a question about the Goblins, I wonder that, as well [15:21] <cloudpic> I don't think anyone so long dead could become inferi... of course, I don't really know. Awful thought future! [15:21] <futureweasley> yes it would! As if Harry hasn't been through enough [15:21] <Alexk> He's going to take over the ministry by doing spells with his evil foot [15:21] <Expelliarmas> *shudders* at the thought of inferi [15:21] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:21] <CedrellaBlack> that would be so bad imagine the scene Harry: mom dad is that you? Lily and James: no fire no fire [15:21] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I always thought the goblins were more interested in their gold than taking sides [15:21] <AnnaNoe> haha what? [15:21] <cloudpic> All those lessons about Goblin rebellions... clearly they're unhappy and agressive [15:22] <Theoriser> After leaving Hogwarts, Voldemort twice sought the job of DADA professor and ended up working at Borgin and Burke's in Knockturn Alley. Curious positions for someone who could have risen far in the ministry with his accomplishments and referrals (Slughorn). What were Voldemorts real goals in applying for the DADA position? [15:22] <ststevens> hey [15:22] *** Evreka has joined #lounge [15:22] <cloudpic> Hogwarts recruitment center for his DE's [15:22] <Hermy-One> to be close to the hidden magic of Hogwarts [15:22] <Evreka> Hi [15:22] <futureweasley> he wanted to be close to Hogwarts [15:22] <fawkes28> to convert more people [15:22] <Expelliarmas> to plant a horcrux at Hogwarts [15:22] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Control [15:22] <cloudpic> Get them young... [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Evreka [15:22] <mollywobbles23> hi [15:22] *** ststevens has quit [Bye] [15:22] <AnnaNoe> i think he wanted to recruit DE [15:22] <AnnaNoe> yeah [15:22] <CedrellaBlack> hi evreka! [15:22] *** ststevens has joined #lounge [15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I htink he planted a horcrux there and wanted to keep tabs on it [15:22] <futureweasley> he thinks Hogwarts is the key to his survival/dominence [15:22] <Theoriser> I think he wants to be in charge of young witches and wizards, so he can teach them to be like him [15:22] <JaneMarple9> because Hogwarts was a place where he had "Friends" ? [15:22] <cloudpic> We agreed, Anna! Right away! [15:22] <mollywobbles23> He wanted to mold young minds. [15:22] <CedrellaBlack> to place his horcruxws [15:23] <futureweasley> yes, Sooner...that's what I think, too [15:23] <JaneMarple9> If you could call them friends [15:23] <Evreka> What's the question? [15:23] <An_Eternal_Night> maybe to find other artifacts of the Founders [15:23] <mollywobbles23> To his advantage, of course. [15:23] <CedrellaBlack> horcruxes* [15:23] <Hermy-One> DD said himself that he thought there was more deep magic hidden within the castle that he could find [15:23] <CedrellaBlack> and find some [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> nah, LV is not the sentimental type [15:23] <fawkes28> i think he wanted to have people that would think like him but he wanted to make sure that no one else came close enough to his power [15:23] <AnnaNoe> read my mind cloud :P [15:23] <CedrellaBlack> Also to recruit? maybe studdents? [15:23] <TheAzkabanDietitian> mysterious tiara in RoR [15:23] <Expelliarmas> there is no way he thought DD would give him the DADA job [15:23] <futureweasley> Evreka: Why did Voldemort want to be so close to Hogwarts? [15:23] *** SevenofNine has joined #lounge [15:23] <cloudpic> Odd he'd want to be in a place which contains other powerful wizards, though... you'd think he'd be afraid to be stifled [15:23] <mollywobbles23> Think of Hitler's youth [15:23] <JaneMarple9> yes, great point molly, he wanted to recruit more deatheaters...young ones [15:23] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [15:23] <futureweasley> hi SevenofNine [15:23] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome 7of9 [15:23] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hi SoN! [15:23] <ststevens> hmm [15:23] <fawkes28> hi sevenofnine [15:23] <CedrellaBlack> wb ais [15:23] <TheAzkabanDietitian> er... sev [15:23] <Evreka> thanks future [15:23] <futureweasley> sure [15:23] <JaneMarple9> That tiara is still important to me [15:23] <An_Eternal_Night> Dumbledore also says that Hogwarts really was the only place that felt sort of like "home" to Voldemort [15:23] <SevenofNine> Howdy everyone. [15:24] <futureweasley> I hate the tiara theory!! [15:24] <Aislinn> hi Seven [15:24] <futureweasley> lol [15:24] <mollywobbles23> me too, Jane. [15:24] <An_Eternal_Night> Hi SoN [15:24] <CedrellaBlack> what tiara? [15:24] <TheAzkabanDietitian> me too jane [15:24] <SevenofNine> Why, Future? [15:24] <TheAzkabanDietitian> on the wig [15:24] <An_Eternal_Night> I do too future [15:24] <futureweasley> nothing personal, of course [15:24] <cloudpic> Why? [15:24] <Theoriser> me too future [15:24] <mollywobbles23> The one in the RoR [15:24] <JaneMarple9> we know futuresmile we'll see! [15:24] <CedrellaBlack> lol fw [15:24] <Theoriser> it just seems really random [15:24] <CedrellaBlack> whats the tiara theory? [15:24] <TheAzkabanDietitian> poor fw [15:24] <futureweasley> the tiara in the Room of Requirement [15:24] <cloudpic> Why else mention it? [15:24] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hates sparkly things [15:24] <CedrellaBlack> oh! [15:24] <fawkes28> i think he may have wanted that feeling of home but his real reasons were not pure [15:24] <futureweasley> they say it's the Ravenclaw horcrux [15:24] <JaneMarple9> thats a horcrux [15:24] <Hermy-One> lol [15:24] <CedrellaBlack> i dont even remmeber seeing a tiara im a bad HP fan lol [15:24] <Theoriser> that the tiara in the room of requirement is a horcrux, and used to belong to Rowena Ravenclaw [15:25] <Hermy-One> but maybe it was just there to help describe how random everything was in the room [15:25] <Evreka> Maybe he wanted to live there? [15:25] <JaneMarple9> in book 6 when Harry was hiding his potions book [15:25] <TheAzkabanDietitian> it could be... but I don't know if it's ravenclaw's [15:25] <Theoriser> What were his immediate and long-term goals in working for Borgin and Burke's? [15:25] <SevenofNine> Harry put it on the cupboard os he can remember where he put the potions book [15:25] <CedrellaBlack> oh okey dokey i will look for it [15:25] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the vanishing cabinets! [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I think to search for relics [15:25] <Hermy-One> one of the girls left it in there afetr the Yule Ball... *whistles* lol [15:25] <TheAzkabanDietitian> and that [15:25] <mollywobbles23> Or it could be Aunt Muriel's tiara that belonged to Ravenclaw...if a tiara factors in at all in the whole horcrux-thing. [15:25] <Expelliarmas> easy access to dark items [15:25] <Theoriser> powerful dark artefacts [15:25] <An_Eternal_Night> yes, for the Founder's artifacts [15:25] <SevenofNine> It's rusty [15:25] <Evreka> Immidiate: to be able to control others [15:25] <CedrellaBlack> Deffinetely find artifacts in people houses [15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> LV likes surrounding himself with things that seem important [15:25] <mollywobbles23> artifacts [15:25] <futureweasley> he was able to see what kinds of artifacts could suit his purposes [15:25] <JaneMarple9> I still think Luna has something that belongs to Ravenclaw, and doesn't know it [15:25] <fawkes28> to find things that could make him more powerful [15:25] <cloudpic> Getting a hold of valuable and meaningful (to him) antiques and items of power? [15:25] <An_Eternal_Night> *founders' [15:25] <CedrellaBlack> ex the cup [15:25] <cloudpic> He likes "trophies" as you pointed out! [15:25] <Expelliarmas> and to get contacts in Dark Magic [15:26] <AnnaNoe> find special items that he could possible make horcruxs with?? [15:26] <Alexk> obtaining evil objects of torture [15:26] <JillianS642> access to dark items AND dark people - collect dirt on people and you can blackmail them [15:26] <JaneMarple9> He wanted to find out more about "dark objects" [15:26] <Evreka> Learning how to scare people badly [15:26] <fawkes28> right, expel [15:26] <futureweasley> and it was convenient to keep an ear to the ground on Dark Wizarding activities [15:26] <TheAzkabanDietitian> makes you wonder if ravenclaw had a purist streak... or it may be just thing [15:26] <cloudpic> Good point about blackmail Jillian [15:26] <ststevens> if the tiara was a horcrux why leave it at hogwarts? [15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> good point about dark people as well Jillian [15:26] <Alexk> something that they sold there that he had his eye on [15:26] <Aislinn> I think he was trying to collect trophies also [15:26] <SevenofNine> I think LV had multiple reasons for working for B & B [15:26] <cloudpic> Hogwarts is safe [15:26] <ststevens> true... [15:26] <CedrellaBlack> me too 7o9 [15:26] <TheAzkabanDietitian> not while tom was there [15:26] <SevenofNine> Access to Hogwarts after leaving school for one [15:26] <AnnaNoe> not safe anymore.. [15:26] <SevenofNine> Via that vanishing cabinet. [15:26] <cloudpic> No...*sniff* [15:27] <futureweasley> I'm sure that LV set the vanishing cabinets up that way for a reason [15:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> yes sev [15:27] <Hermy-One> But LV wouldn't be careless... he wouldn't leave the chance of someone happening to pick it up [15:27] <fawkes28> i'm sure he tried to recruit people for the DE's there as well [15:27] <ststevens> well they will destroy the cabitnet [15:27] <Hermy-One> TOns of people used that particular closet in the RoR [15:27] <cloudpic> Safe for Voldie, though. rats. [15:27] <Aislinn> do you think he knew about that, back when he left school, seven? [15:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> there's a tutorial about the VCs on Mugglenet [15:27] <Evreka> I don't think he knew of the cabiets [15:27] <CedrellaBlack> but he would have had to fix them unless they werent broken when he was working at B&B's [15:27] <Expelliarmas> don't think LV had anything to do with the vanishing cabinets [15:27] <JaneMarple9> yes he was in a position there to meet "evil people" [15:27] <Evreka> Draco says the idea is his, all alone [15:27] <SevenofNine> The RoR with the cabinet reminds me of Raiders of the Lost Arc [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder about the stuff LV knows about that Harry doesnt [15:27] <JillianS642> I wonder why Voldie never showed up at the school more then ... or does he have an invisibility cloak, as well. [15:27] <cloudpic> But tons of people don't know about his hoarcruxes [15:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the cabinets were one of my first thoughts after HBP [15:27] <SevenofNine> *Ark [15:27] <futureweasley> do you see LV as much of a "handyman"? [15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> not really FW [15:27] <Expelliarmas> no, fw he has minions for that [15:28] <CedrellaBlack> me neither [15:28] <SevenofNine> Aislinn, I think LV did know. [15:28] <futureweasley> I'm sure he was thinking that the cabinets would be useful once the one was fixed [15:28] <JaneMarple9> no, he's useless [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he would see that as below him [15:28] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol jane [15:28] <SevenofNine> I think he must have been miffed when he came back and found out he couldn't get into the school. [15:28] <futureweasley> me too, Sooner [15:28] <cloudpic> But it wasn't broken in his day, was it? [15:28] <JaneMarple9> (but not telling him to his face :-o) [15:28] <Alexk> well, he knew how to fix wormtails hand [15:28] <ststevens> dunno [15:28] <An_Eternal_Night> no it wasn't... [15:28] <SevenofNine> Nope it wasn't cloudpic [15:28] <Evreka> No, it breaks in COS - we see it! [15:28] <CedrellaBlack> we dont know cloud [15:28] <Expelliarmas> the cabinet was broken by Peeves in PoA [15:28] <TheAzkabanDietitian> but those blocked passage ways are still mysterious [15:28] <SevenofNine> It got broken in CoS [15:28] <Expelliarmas> or COS [15:28] <cloudpic> Yeah! [15:28] <Expelliarmas> can't remember which [15:28] <mollywobbles23> Question about the VCs: Why was there one in Hogwarts in the first place? Who put it there? [15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> but did he even know of the link? That is the first question [15:28] <cloudpic> Thanks, I'd fogotten just where/when [15:29] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i have no idea molly [15:29] <An_Eternal_Night> who would have imagined that Peeves breaking the cabinet would become so important! [15:29] <SevenofNine> I'm inclined to think that he did, Sooner [15:29] <CedrellaBlack> is it just coincedence that the cabinets are there or do you think LV placed them there [15:29] <JaneMarple9> Hmmm and how many cabinets are there? More than two? [15:29] <Evreka> I don't think so Sooner, it was something Draco figured out [15:29] <AnnaNoe> what about the secret passage ways that u can find with the Map. wormtail might remember them? [15:29] <SevenofNine> I think LV is attached to the school, but there's more to it than that. [15:29] <TheAzkabanDietitian> or did he do it on his own? [15:29] <Theoriser> Voldemort wants to be the greatest sorcerer in the world as he's pushed magic farther than anyone, in his own words. Will there ever be a point in his magical abilites and accomplishments where he will be happy? Why or why not? [15:29] <Hermy-One> and it was Nearly Headless Nick who told Peeves to break to help Harry get out of detention! [15:29] <JaneMarple9> They were put there for a reason [15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that he wll never be happy, but not realize what he is looking for [15:29] <ststevens> power doesn't make you happy [15:29] <JillianS642> nope. He is insatiable. [15:29] <SevenofNine> LV is into POWER. He can never have enough. [15:30] <Expelliarmas> LV and "happy" do not equate [15:30] <Evreka> Hope Wormtail tries the one that caved in *evil* [15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> people like that never are [15:30] <futureweasley> lol Jillian [15:30] <JaneMarple9> he'll never be happy...he doesn't understand the concept [15:30] <CedrellaBlack> LV cant be happy [15:30] <Alexk> no, I think he has too much hate for people in general [15:30] <futureweasley> you took the words right off my fingertips [15:30] <An_Eternal_Night> haha, right Expel [15:30] <Hermy-One> LV will never be happy. He doesn't know the meaning of 'happy' [15:30] <fawkes28> i think he'll definitelty be more happy when he kills harry (which he won't) [15:30] <CedrellaBlack> satistfied but not happy [15:30] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lv has to many issues [15:30] <Alexk> he's never been loved, so he'll never love [15:30] <cloudpic> Can someone like Voldemort be happy? or satisfied? Negative emotions tend not to provide satisfaction or happiness [15:30] <mollywobbles23> But, if LV put it there, wouldn't DD have wondered where it came from after Peeves broke it and then later when Montague became trapped? [15:30] <Evreka> I don't think he knows how to be happy [15:30] <cloudpic> Good point Alexk [15:30] <Theoriser> I don't know if he could be happy, no matter what happened [15:30] <TheAzkabanDietitian> belle kind of loves him in her own way [15:30] <futureweasley> never satisfied...never happy...he's incapable of any positive thinking [15:30] <fawkes28> i think his expectations are too high...people like that are always disappointed [15:30] <SevenofNine> I'm not sure LV can be satisfied. He will feel there is always somethign out there being denied him--someone out there who will try and challenge him. [15:30] <Evreka> exactly future [15:30] <Aislinn> he can't be happy, because he has destroyed the one thing he is trying so hard to hold onto - his life [15:31] <JaneMarple9> she does...she's almost as evil as Voldemort [15:31] <CedrellaBlack> but he is satistfied when he kills is he not? [15:31] <cloudpic> Bella doesn't love him exactly... it's more like hero worship or ???? [15:31] <SoonerGryffindor> so you guys think that even if he accomplishes all of his plans and goals that he wont be satisfied? [15:31] <Expelliarmas> good point Aislinn [15:31] <JaneMarple9> birds of a feather smile [15:31] <Aislinn> never sooner [15:31] <cloudpic> and his soul [15:31] <SevenofNine> for a moment Cedrella [15:31] <Hermy-One> McGonagall or Filch (can't remember) said that the VC was "very valuable"... so they knew what it was. [15:31] <Evreka> When his enemies are conquered he'll turn on his "friends" [15:31] <Aislinn> right cloudpic [15:31] <TheAzkabanDietitian> why does he value his own life so much though? so that he will never be bested? [15:31] <ststevens> satisfied? never [15:31] <JaneMarple9> he'll never be happy [15:31] <Expelliarmas> no, Sooner, he'd then expand his ambitions throughout Europe [15:31] <cloudpic> also destroyed/ subdivided... made smaller and smaller [15:31] <cloudpic> Fear of death. [15:31] <ststevens> he will [15:31] <CedrellaBlack> i hope he dies =] then the world will be hapy [15:31] <ststevens> oops [15:31] <SevenofNine> But I'm not sure they knew where it connected to, Hermy-One. [15:31] <fawkes28> he's isolated himself from everyone how could he ever be happy? [15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I guess nothing beats a good plan for world domination, eh? [15:32] <Evreka> lol cedrella [15:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i won't be happy... i want revenge [15:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> grr [15:32] <Alexk> I think his own twisted way of satisfying the emptiness in his heart is killing more, and having the most power [15:32] <Hermy-One> probably not, SoN [15:32] <Expelliarmas> evil maniac + world domination = plt [15:32] <Expelliarmas> plot [15:32] <fawkes28> it's lonely being at the top [15:32] <SevenofNine> I keep thinking back to DD's comment to LV in the MoM fight [15:32] <cloudpic> Or the bottom... [15:32] <SevenofNine> I don't think LV is going to "die" [15:32] <cloudpic> Lowest level of hell as in Dante [15:32] <JaneMarple9> killing more people sort of makes him his kind of happy [15:32] <cloudpic> brb [15:32] <ststevens> happy? [15:32] <ststevens> no [15:33] <JaneMarple9> but not our sort of happy [15:33] <TheAzkabanDietitian> glee [15:33] <ststevens> crazy? [15:33] <Evreka> no but maybe dominating and causing others pain [15:33] <ststevens> yes [15:33] <CedrellaBlack> Im going to restate this for a sec. He thinks he is satisfied when he kills but he never is becuase he keeps killing more and more to fill the emptyness aka lack of happiness and satisfaction [15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> how sad must it be to never be able to be satisfied? [15:33] <SevenofNine> DD said there are worse things than death and he would not be satisfied with LV simply dying. [15:33] <Hermy-One> How about this: LV will have his soul sucked out by a Dementor and will spend his life as an empty shell in therapy classes... [15:33] <Evreka> A short form of satisfaction though [15:33] <Theoriser> According to JKR, Voldemort's boggart would be: "death, ignominious death .... He would see himself dead." Do you think that Voldemort has any plans concerning his horcruxes? [15:33] <futureweasley> Lord Voldemort "I feel Giddy"? I think not [15:33] <CedrellaBlack> lol! [15:33] <JaneMarple9> makes him feel more powerful them smile [15:33] <ststevens> can a soul-less person eat? [15:33] <AnnaNoe> i think he fears of gettin weaker [15:33] <AnnaNoe> evertime they find destroy a new one [15:33] *** HermyJaneGranger has joined #lounge [15:34] *** Ronikins has joined #lounge [15:34] <Evreka> I'd like that Hermy [15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally think he needs to keep an eye on them *coughlocketcough* [15:34] <Hermy-One> Perhaps when he begins to realise that they're ebing destroyed, he'll try to make more... [15:34] <SevenofNine> LV expected something BIG when he went to kill Harry and make that last horcrux. [15:34] <Theoriser> hi HermyJaneGranger, hi Ronikins [15:34] <CedrellaBlack> why wouldnt they be able to ststevens? [15:34] <mollywobbles23> What do you mean "any plans"? I think he just plans for them to keep him from dying. [15:34] <JaneMarple9> he fears growing weaker and becoming like the people he hates yes [15:34] <SevenofNine> Has he given up on that goal? [15:34] <HermyJaneGranger> Hi [15:34] <Evreka> I don't think he intends to check them [15:34] <AnnaNoe> i dont think he could make more? [15:34] <An_Eternal_Night> he's too arrogant with his thinking that only he knows about them [15:34] <ststevens> they can't move can they? [15:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i do [15:34] <futureweasley> I don't think that he plans to use them...if that's what you mean [15:34] <Aislinn> I think he would make another if he could, but i"m not sure he has enough soul left [15:34] <futureweasley> I think they are their for emergency use only [15:34] <Alexk> That's just another part of getting the power he desires, if he doesn't live forever, he can't always cause pain [15:34] <CedrellaBlack> the only one that was useable was the diary [15:34] <Evreka> I hope he can't make more... [15:34] <JaneMarple9> he should keep a eye on the horcruxes yes [15:34] <JillianS642> what sort of use, fw? [15:35] <futureweasley> he already thinks he won't need them [15:35] <JaneMarple9> he hasn't been doing so lately...Dumbledore managed to destory a few [15:35] <TheAzkabanDietitian> he's too pompous [15:35] <JillianS642> I still don't get how a horcrux would do anything except just sit somewhere and/or be destroyed. [15:35] <Expelliarmas> he's so arrogant, he thinks his protections were enough [15:35] <fawkes28> i think he's too arrogant and doesn't think someone could destory them all [15:35] <SevenofNine> So, it depends upon LV's arrogance--will he feel his horcruxes are indanger? [15:35] <An_Eternal_Night> he doesn't intend to die any time soon [15:35] <CedrellaBlack> what's going to happy they drink out of HH's horcruxed cup and whatevers in there turns to poison? [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> you would think for someone that fears death so much, he would vamp up the security a little [15:35] <Aislinn> they are only there to prevent death - there's not really anything to "do' with them [15:35] <SevenofNine> Brilliant minds, fawkes [15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> or at least check on them once or twice a decade [15:35] <Aislinn> unless he feels a need to change their hiding places [15:35] <Evreka> He probably is safe as long as at least one is intact [15:35] <futureweasley> he doesn't think that he'll be injured again like he was when Harry got time [15:35] <futureweasley> *him [15:35] <Expelliarmas> in fairness, Sooner, that security in the cave was amazing--and sik [15:35] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Q: Can Voldemort make a Sorcerer's Stone? [15:35] <Evreka> and he has a lot more than that [15:35] <JaneMarple9> he probably trying to recruit more deatheaters to protect himself [15:36] <mollywobbles23> No. [15:36] <ststevens> doesn't look like it [15:36] <Evreka> so I think he's contempt with creating 7 [15:36] <Hermy-One> but he thinks that no one knows about them, save a few people he *thinks* he has under his control [15:36] <Aislinn> no TAD, he can't [15:36] <Alexk> I think one part of him really wants to die, and one part of him really wants to live [15:36] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think he has the knowledge [15:36] *** HedwigJune has joined #lounge [15:36] <HedwigJune> sorry I'm late, guys [15:36] <CedrellaBlack> hey hj! [15:36] <Aislinn> that's why he tried to steal the only one in existence [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Hedwig [15:36] <JaneMarple9> Hi Hedwig smile [15:36] <futureweasley> don't think so TAD...he can't understand Alchemy...doesn't have the heart for it [15:36] <Theoriser> What kinds of plans may he have concerning their locations/current safeguards? [15:36] <HedwigJune> what're we talking about, now? [15:36] <Aislinn> LV's horcruxes, hedwig [15:36] <CedrellaBlack> erm i think theres one on the roof of the orphanage where he hung the bunny [15:36] <HedwigJune> Horcruxes, got it [15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> LV's potential plans for his horcruxes [15:37] <JaneMarple9> he might change their hiding places on a regular basis? [15:37] <HermyJaneGranger> That could be a possibility, CB [15:37] <Evreka> none I think [15:37] <Hermy-One> he'll probably up security once he finds out that DD/Harry tried to destroy one of them (how could he not find out?) [15:37] <Expelliarmas> I don't think he has any more plans. He doesn't know that the ring was destroyed or that the lockett is missing [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> honestly, if he doesnt think to check on them he's a fool [15:37] <Aislinn> I think he still does not know that they are being actively threatened [15:37] *** ph63915 has joined #lounge [15:37] <futureweasley> I think he thinks he's so clever, that even if someone finds out about them, the won't be able to find them [15:37] <Theoriser> I think he'd be making extra sure that nobody knew about them, and also that they were guarded really well [15:37] <Aislinn> I'm not sure he would have plans [15:37] <AnnaNoe> well now that dumbledores dead, he may feel more secure bcuz dumbledore was the person who knew were majority of his horcruxs were [15:37] <futureweasley> LV is brilliant in his own mind [15:37] <JillianS642> hmm, the more he moves and/or visits his horcruxes, the more likely he'll be spotted doing it. Doesn't seem to o safe. [15:37] <CedrellaBlack> Hes too full of themselves hes all like im too smart no one will finf MY horcruxes [15:37] <Expelliarmas> LV has a tendency to overlook the obvious [15:37] <ststevens> he dosn't know anyone knows about his horcruxes [15:37] <CedrellaBlack> himself* [15:37] <JaneMarple9> I still think one of them is at Hogwarts or it is something that belongs or is connected with Harry [15:37] <mollywobbles23> I don't think he knows that they are being destroyed, except for the diary. Unless Snape is evil and told him about seeing that ring when he healed DD. [15:37] <ststevens> LV [15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> so there could have been some benefit right there to DD's death. Might lull LV into a false sense of security? [15:37] <JillianS642> good point, expell [15:37] <Aislinn> I think he is arrogant enough to think that he has already made them invulnerable [15:37] <HedwigJune> well, I read an editorial on Mugglenet that said you would have to use one Horcrux in order to get to another [15:37] <fawkes28> i don't think he thinks that anyone knows about them or at least all 7 of them [15:37] <Hermy-One> probably all his focus will be on killing Harry though [15:37] <mollywobbles23> and he drew his own conculusions [15:37] <futureweasley> well, Anna...he knew WHAT they were...but not necessarily where they were [15:38] <Evreka> He guarded them upon hiding them - I don't think he has any inclination two places were found out [15:38] * mollywobbles23 is having a hard time keeping up [15:38] <SevenofNine> Yes, sooner [15:38] <futureweasley> if he knew where they were, he would have told Harry [15:38] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [15:38] <AnnaNoe> yea i suppose [15:38] <CedrellaBlack> hmm maybe one inside the riddle house? [15:38] <HermyJaneGranger> is it possible that Godric's sword is a horcrux? [15:38] <AnnaNoe> didnt he though? [15:38] * CedrellaBlack is too [15:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i don't think so hermy [15:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think so Hermy [15:38] <AnnaNoe> with the cave or..im confusing myself [15:38] <ststevens> oubt it [15:38] <Evreka> No, Albus says definitely no [15:38] <ststevens> *doubt [15:38] <HedwigJune> Another editorial said that Voldy could've hidden a Horcrux in a pyramid [15:38] <SevenofNine> Good question HermyJane. [15:38] <HermyJaneGranger> ok, i wasn't sure [15:38] <futureweasley> nope, he showed him where he thought the Locket was...and it turned out to be wrong [15:38] <HedwigJune> in Egypt [15:38] <SevenofNine> I think LV would like it to be one. [15:38] <fawkes28> and there's not a sign on it that says "this is a horcrux" so he doesn't think anyone will destroy them all [15:38] <AnnaNoe> oo oh ok [15:38] <ststevens> LV never had the sword did he? [15:38] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:38] <Evreka> lol hedwig [15:38] <Hermy-One> I don't think that Voldie would think Godric's stuff would be worth using as a horcrux [15:38] <Alexk> even if he's really smart in his own mind, his tendancy is underestimating others, so I don't think he feels as though he needs to constantly change the locations of the horcruxes, because in his mind, they're so hard to figure out anyway [15:39] <CedrellaBlack> Maybe theres a horcrux in the riddle house becuase there was one in the gaunt house [15:39] <HermyJaneGranger> That's a point, Hermy-One [15:39] <HedwigJune> but those are too close together [15:39] <Hermy-One> and I personally think that the sword proves Harry's the heir of Gryffindor, but that's just me smile [15:39] <Theoriser> Do you think that Voldemort plans on making any more horcruxes before facing Harry again? Why or why not? [15:39] <SevenofNine> Yet Godric was a founder. [15:39] <mollywobbles23> I have this feeling that one of them is hidden in plain sight. [15:39] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [15:39] <Evreka> Haven't Jo denied that? [15:39] <ststevens> Heir of Gryffindor? [15:39] <Aislinn> I don't think he can, theoriser [15:39] <TheAzkabanDietitian> No, I think he'd use one of Godric's things to make a horcrux, but I think we have yet to see Godric's artifact [15:39] <ststevens> I think not [15:39] <An_Eternal_Night> no, I don't think he plans to [15:40] <CedrellaBlack> No becuase he only planned on making 7 [15:40] <futureweasley> 7 is it...I think that's all [15:40] <fawkes28> i think he is done [15:40] <Aislinn> I don't think he has enough soul left [15:40] <mollywobbles23> Probably not [15:40] <CedrellaBlack> 7 being the most magical number [15:40] <fawkes28> he likes that number 7 [15:40] <Expelliarmas> No. he has the necessary number; in his mind, he's done [15:40] <HedwigJune> wait wait wait wait [15:40] <JillianS642> Why not: It could weaken him. Why: he may have realized some of them are missing/destroyed. [15:40] <Hermy-One> but did he actually get to create all seven? [15:40] <HermyJaneGranger> Mollywobbles, the best place to hide something IS in plain site [15:40] <CedrellaBlack> but is it 7 including himself? [15:40] <JillianS642> I think I'm of two minds on this one. [15:40] <ststevens> You can always make something smaller [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> would it make sense to be as strong as you can vefore facing Harry though? [15:40] <CedrellaBlack> or 7 and himself? [15:40] <SevenofNine> No, Hermy-One, I dont' think so. [15:40] <HedwigJune> If I were LV, I'd want to keep the status quo [15:40] <SevenofNine> LV expected big things to happen. [15:40] <futureweasley> six outside of his body, I think Ced [15:40] <Alexk> His goal was to make 7 horcruxes, I don't think he'll stop being a man of his word, otherwise people might doubt his power [15:40] <futureweasley> and one inside of him [15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> If I were LV I would have a full sever BEFORE confronting Harry [15:41] <mollywobbles23> yep, that's why I think he did that, hermy. smile [15:41] <Evreka> Not necessarily it depends how it works [15:41] <SevenofNine> In the graveyard he said he woul dhave to settle for his OLD power and body. [15:41] <HedwigJune> by keeping the number of pieces seven [15:41] <CedrellaBlack> thwts what i though buy i wasnt sure [15:41] <Expelliarmas> He might have made a 7th, before the curse backfired on Harry [15:41] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:41] *** Shard has joined #lounge [15:41] <Shard> Jello! [15:41] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i thought it was his center of soul... and then seven horcruxes [15:41] <HedwigJune> HI!!! [15:41] <Expelliarmas> but it didn't work out [15:41] <Aislinn> Alex - no one is supposed to know about them, so its not about his word [15:41] <CedrellaBlack> but i gues he could make more to make up for the ones that are gone [15:41] <futureweasley> Harry is the accidental 7th [15:41] <futureweasley> hi Shard [15:41] <HedwigJune> wait.......... [15:41] <TheAzkabanDietitian> nooooo fw! [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think he did Expie, because I have a feeling that having 7 would have made him invincible [15:41] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hey shard [15:41] <HermyJaneGranger> i'm thinking more on after the curse backfired... [15:41] <An_Eternal_Night> oh.... I hope not [15:41] <Shard> Hi FW [15:41] <Evreka> If he decided on 7 and got rid of exactly 1/7th of his soul each time, then he can NOT create more [15:41] <Aislinn> hey shard [15:41] <ph63915> would he want to replace the diary? [15:41] <Shard> And I don't think Harry is a Horcrux... [15:41] <HermyJaneGranger> The murder of Frank Bryce, maybe [15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Shard [15:41] <Hermy-One> i hope not, fw [15:41] * CedrellaBlack thinks these are the theories i was talking about FW! [15:41] <HedwigJune> what if he can't make any more? [15:41] <futureweasley> I hope not, too [15:41] <Shard> That's funny I thought we were talking LV plans [15:42] <mollywobbles23> I don't think Harry's a horcrux either. [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> that;s a good question Hedwid [15:42] <futureweasley> but I can't see Harry getting away from it [15:42] <SevenofNine> But LV liked his horcruxes made at important deaths. [15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe he cant [15:42] <Shard> Hi EVERYONE! *waves* This post has been edited by futureweasley: Oct 16 2006, 08:14 PM |
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[15:42] <Hermy-One> we wouldnt waste a horcrux on a muggle
[15:42] <HedwigJune> because of Mr. Blood? [15:42] <Theoriser> Voldemort's plans concerning muggles: So is Voldemort interested in muggles, or does he consider them beneath his notice? [15:42] <CedrellaBlack> hi shard [15:42] <mollywobbles23> lol [15:42] <Evreka> exactly HedwJ [15:42] <futureweasley> there's no other explanation for the powers and the brain thing [15:42] <ststevens> he can make more, in my opinion [15:42] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [15:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> nagini would fit well with frank's death [15:42] <mollywobbles23> "we're not making cocktails" [15:42] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [15:42] <CedrellaBlack> no no no fw no [15:42] <CedrellaBlack> lol [15:42] <Aislinn> I think they are beneath his notice [15:42] <CedrellaBlack> ahahaa lol molly! [15:42] <Shard> LV will probably set the giants on the Muggles [15:42] <Expelliarmas> I think LV would like to eradicate Muggles or enslave them [15:42] <JillianS642> Muggles are only as interesting as they are entertaining: they are not a threat, but can be fun to wreak havoc on. [15:42] <HermyJaneGranger> he thinks muggles are scum... [15:42] <Hermy-One> beneath him, I think... they're only worth killing to LV [15:42] <Aislinn> unless he uses them as more inferi [15:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> muggles are ants to voldemort [15:42] <HedwigJune> I don't think he can make anymore: gleam of triumph [15:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> but so are most wizards [15:42] <HermyJaneGranger> muggles arn't fit to wipe dirt from his abnormally long toes [15:43] <HedwigJune> lol [15:43] <futureweasley> Muggles are like fleas to LV [15:43] <Hermy-One> lol HErmyJG [15:43] <mollywobbles23> I think he will use them to spread terror by terrorizing them. [15:43] <Shard> FW: People can have mental connections without sharing souls [15:43] <ststevens> lol [15:43] <HermyJaneGranger> hehehe... [15:43] <ph63915> muggles are his sport! [15:43] <fawkes28> i think it enjoys causing chaos and is glad when his DEs have a mass killing of them [15:43] <HedwigJune> ewww [15:43] <futureweasley> c'mon Shard [15:43] <An_Eternal_Night> I do too mollywobbles [15:43] <HermyJaneGranger> he kills muggles just to watch them suffer [15:43] <Alexk> I think he considers them to be below him, but he'll want to kill them off, to get revenge on his filthy muggle father [15:43] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [15:43] *** Books_4_eva has joined #lounge [15:43] <TheAzkabanDietitian> aw that's just wrong [15:43] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think muggles understand LV ex. the way vernon reacted in book five when harry said LV is back [15:43] <CedrellaBlack> he didnt care [15:43] <Shard> FW: In star Trek, Captain Picard mind melded with Sarek and he said that they now had a permant mental connection [15:43] <Books_4_eva> hi [15:43] <Evreka> He did say that he wasn't interested in killing mudbloods any longer in COS though... [15:43] <HedwigJune> changing font color [15:43] <Books_4_eva> whats the topic? [15:43] <Shard> So I doubt that Sarek left a bit of himself in Picard [15:43] <Evreka> Maybe he doesn't care about muggles any more? [15:43] <Theoriser> Does he want to get rid of all muggles or simply reduce them to slave status? [15:44] <HermyJaneGranger> mudbloods, not muggles, Evreka [15:44] <HedwigJune> no, that was just his one bit of soul saying that [15:44] <Shard> Get rid of all muggles [15:44] <futureweasley> luckily for me, this isn't Star Trek... [15:44] <Theoriser> it's lord voldemort's plans and ultimate goal Books_4_eva [15:44] <An_Eternal_Night> I think he wants to get rid of them all [15:44] <fawkes28> he really is like hitler getting rid of the people he doesn't consider worthy enough to live [15:44] <futureweasley> :-) [15:44] <TheAzkabanDietitian> what use would muggle slaves serve? [15:44] <Hermy-One> probably only save as many as he sees fit... kill the rest [15:44] <Expelliarmas> He wants to enslave them, but will kill as many as he can [15:44] <mollywobbles23> true, hedwig [15:44] <JillianS642> Slave status, definitely. [15:44] <mollywobbles23> exactly, fawkes [15:44] <Shard> I'm sorry FW, it doesn't make sense for LV's soul to be able to survive in Harry all these years [15:44] <Evreka> He said mudbloods, but maybe he is loosing interest in them totally? [15:44] <Alexk> I think he as long as everyone fears him the most, he'll be "happy" [15:44] <Shard> When he couldn't even posesse him in OOTP [15:44] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [15:44] <HedwigJune> would he just want everyone to worship him? [15:44] <ststevens> why would he need muggle slaves? [15:44] <JaneMarple9> testing [15:44] <fawkes28> i don't think he would want them as slaves because he wouldnt want a muggle fetching things for him - he already has a wizard to do that for him [15:44] <Theoriser> I think he wants to get rid of them, not make them slaves [15:44] <futureweasley> I see that, Shard...point taken [15:45] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [15:45] <mollywobbles23> Maybe he'll set himself on fire too [15:45] <JaneMarple9> ah there i am! [15:45] <Theoriser> he doesn't think they're fit to even be alive [15:45] <Hermy-One> although to LV, killing and death is worse than slavery [15:45] <Shard> \Because LV would want to show how low they were, just for being slaves [15:45] <CedrellaBlack> them as slaves would make no sense [15:45] *** You_wont_know_who has joined #lounge [15:45] <Evreka> Isn't it more "great" to spread dispair among wizards than mere muggles? [15:45] <CedrellaBlack> they have no power no nothuing [15:45] <JillianS642> Not for him, St. stevens, but other wizards would like them. [15:45] <futureweasley> hi YWKW [15:45] <Shard> LV will proibably enslave and then put them in concentration camps, if he could [15:45] <JaneMarple9> where are we up to? [15:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> hey YWKH! [15:45] <HermyJaneGranger> enslaving muggles would not be a very smart thing [15:45] <CedrellaBlack> lag today again [15:45] <HermyJaneGranger> they'd just die anyways [15:45] <JaneMarple9> eek hello YDKW [15:45] <Shard> Hi YWNW [15:45] <futureweasley> I will say this, Shard... [15:45] <Hermy-One> and DD said that dictators fear the people they opress... so maybe he'd just kill them [15:45] <Alexk> Probably in his mind, they're not even worthy enough to be his slaves [15:45] <JillianS642> but it's awfully hard to kill all non-magic folk. [15:45] <CedrellaBlack> hi YWNW [15:46] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry guys. Had to leave a moment due to lag issues [15:46] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I wonder if Muggles have ANY chance against LV.... [15:46] <HermyJaneGranger> there's to many muggles [15:46] <fawkes28> if anyone could do it, he could, jillian [15:46] <CedrellaBlack> they outnumber wizards by so much its practically impossible [15:46] <JillianS642> true, true, fawkes! [15:46] <HermyJaneGranger> i actually think muggles outnumber witches and wizards [15:46] <You_wont_know_who> hi everyone [15:46] <HedwigJune> but he won't, obviously [15:46] <futureweasley> Harry was a baby when the whole thing happened...LV's bit of soul that remains inside Harry could have mutated to be able to feel love [15:46] <JaneMarple9> would Voldemort try and recruit Muggles are does he hate them too much? [15:46] <SevenofNine> With a nuke perhaps Dietitian [15:46] <JillianS642> him or maybe Peter, eh? Creepy talents that guy has ... [15:46] <Hermy-One> I wonder if he'll breed more basilisks? [15:46] <JillianS642> carp. No more "eh"! [15:46] <CedrellaBlack> and then wizards would have trouble reproducing if he did suceed aka inbreeding would be bad [15:46] <mollywobbles23> oh no! Trevor! [15:46] <Aislinn> if there is a bit of soul, FW [15:46] <fawkes28> well voldemort wants to get rid of harry first before all the muggles [15:46] <ststevens> there is no bit of LV's soul in Harry [15:46] <HermyJaneGranger> omg, that's what my friend said yesterday, SevenofNine [15:46] <HedwigJune> fish.......? [15:46] <futureweasley> right, that's assuming that there is one there [15:47] <Theoriser> Auror and Order member Kingsley Shacklebolt is currently stationed as one of the Prime Minister's secretaries. Is this just standard operating procedure on behalf of the Order, or is the Prime Minister really in danger? [15:47] <Shard> FW: I just think that making a Horcrux is far more complicated then to simply be splintered, albeit I will admit it has a certain fittingness with Harry possibly sacrificing himself. [15:47] <HermyJaneGranger> drop a nuclear bomb or an atomic bomb on the world, watch all muggles go BOOM [15:47] <CedrellaBlack> I think he may be in danger [15:47] <SevenofNine> PM is in dahger [15:47] <Hermy-One> he would have to be in real danger, i think [15:47] <Shard> I am just leaving myself open to the option that he doesnt have to die, [15:47] <An_Eternal_Night> he is definitely in danger [15:47] <HedwigJune> no, I think it's standard for the Ministry [15:47] <You_wont_know_who> Voldie would love to see all the Muggles killed or his servants [15:47] <mollywobbles23> He's definitely in danger as a Muggle authority figure. [15:47] <An_Eternal_Night> more so than other muggles [15:47] <JaneMarple9> I think the Muggle PM will reappear [15:47] <Evreka> I think Voldemort would love to kill him as it would create more chaos in the muggle world [15:47] <TheAzkabanDietitian> PM is in danger of being Imperiused [15:47] <CedrellaBlack> becuase if the PM dies then UK goes into havoc and discord is what LV wants [15:47] <Aislinn> I think that the muggle world was shown to be threatened, and LV would see it as a nice demonstration of his poewr [15:47] <Aislinn> power [15:47] <Books_4_eva> well it would surtenly cause panic if the primeminister was killed [15:47] <JaneMarple9> and maybe he'll be in danger [15:47] <fawkes28> voldemort would love to make himself minister *cough*dictator*cough* [15:47] <HedwigJune> "Gotta find...Horcriiiiiii" [15:48] <ststevens> I don't think Harry will die [15:48] <Expelliarmas> the PM has to be in danger, LV tried to shake the muggle Pm by having one of his assistants start quacking like a duck [15:48] <futureweasley> I think the PM is in danger...big time [15:48] <CedrellaBlack> harry is a goner [15:48] <JaneMarple9> Harry won't die! [15:48] <You_wont_know_who> dictator and the only ruler [15:48] <SevenofNine> So what other rulers are in danger? [15:48] <Aislinn> let's stick to the topic at hand people [15:48] <CedrellaBlack> yes yes yes he will but thats a diff chat [15:48] <Shard> I hope Harry lives and marrys Ginny so :-P [15:48] <futureweasley> let's get away from Harry...what about the Prime Minister [15:48] <Theoriser> yeah that was a bit odd Expelliarmas [15:48] <SevenofNine> LV won't settle for just domination of Brittain [15:48] <Alexk> He's definitely in danger, no one will stand in his way, and the Minister of Magic is the president of magic, so he would need to kill him, before taking his throne [15:48] * JaneMarple9 not listening to anyone who says Harry is going to die biggrin [15:48] <Shard> Anyways back to LV [15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I think eventually LV will go after the PM, but not to kill him, just control him [15:48] <HermyJaneGranger> that'd be cool, shard [15:48] <An_Eternal_Night> I don't think we'll see the muggle prime minister again, but we might hear something about him [15:48] <HedwigJune> changing color [15:48] <Evreka> exactly fawkes, but then we're talking MoM not english prime minister [15:48] <SevenofNine> I agree sooner [15:48] <CedrellaBlack> imperius! [15:49] <futureweasley> yes Ced [15:49] <Books_4_eva> i think LV is trying to send muggles into a panic more than trying to kill them all [15:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Imperio and I said [15:49] <HermyJaneGranger> voldemort's goal in life is WORLD (universe if he can manage it) DOMINATION! [15:49] <futureweasley> I was just thinking that [15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be a powerful tool to use [15:49] <An_Eternal_Night> will he leave Britain for a time and spread terror in other nations? [15:49] <Hermy-One> yeah, imperio [15:49] <CedrellaBlack> or LV could just expelliarmus the prime minister and get the job done [15:49] <JaneMarple9> hmm maybe Scrimgeour is in danger too? [15:49] <ststevens> muggles are not his main goal [15:49] <futureweasley> he might use the PM to do his bidding... [15:49] <You_wont_know_who> Voldemort wants to be alone - he doesn't need anyone [15:49] <SevenofNine> Can you see the American pres, the German PM, the French, etc leaders all Imperiused? [15:49] <HermyJaneGranger> maybe... [15:49] <Aislinn> agreed ststevens - they are not important to him [15:49] <HedwigJune> oooh....not in Book Seven [15:49] <You_wont_know_who> yes I can see them imeriused [15:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> This issue came up in Fluff or Foreshadowing that LV might use Muggles against one another in order to destroy them [15:49] <fawkes28> that would be scary, seven [15:49] <futureweasley> have you ever seen "Little Nicky"? Like that...total mind control to ruin the world [15:49] <ststevens> He wants the wizanrding community [15:49] <Hermy-One> SoN... maybe they already are.... dun dun dunnnn [15:50] <Shard> I saw Little Nicky [15:50] <HermyJaneGranger> what if Voldemort has somehow invented a curse that's worse than all three Unforgivables combined? [15:50] <Shard> LV definetly wants control [15:50] <CedrellaBlack> well i dont think that lv is going to go all the way to the us atleast not in the beginning...first europe then overseas [15:50] <SevenofNine> And then LV comes in to "fix" the problems. [15:50] <mollywobbles23> oh, you said it, not me hermy [15:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> How many people can be imperiused by one wizard at one time?? [15:50] <ststevens> interesting thought [15:50] <HedwigJune> like blowing up the world? [15:50] <CedrellaBlack> that would be so scary though seven [15:50] <Hermy-One> to LV, nothing's worse than AK, right? [15:50] <Books_4_eva> you think voldys going to spread to europe in 7 because I surtleny say that would cound as leg room [15:50] <mollywobbles23> I don't think there's a limit [15:50] <Shard> Who thinks LV will send a "spy" to be the DADA at Hogwarts for the 7th book? *g* [15:50] <HermyJaneGranger> yea, like the magical Nuclear bomb [15:50] <CedrellaBlack> but blowing up the world would mean he dies [15:50] <futureweasley> maybe Shard [15:50] <JaneMarple9> there's no curse greater than the three unforgivable ones I don't think...hope not [15:50] <futureweasley> I think it will be Ron [15:50] <HedwigJune> YEAH!!! [15:50] <futureweasley> under Imperious [15:50] <Theoriser> Are there any other plans that Voldemort may have for the muggle world that you can think of? [15:50] <SevenofNine> Isn't that what Hitler did? he came in and fixed things? [15:50] <You_wont_know_who> it's probably one man at a time but the right man (about imperiusing) [15:50] <mollywobbles23> what? Ron? [15:50] <HedwigJune> NOOOOOO!!!! [15:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> a nuke seems more powerful than an AK... [15:50] <Shard> I aqgree about the Leg Room, I mean he keeps hiding in Albania for some reason [15:50] <mollywobbles23> no [15:50] <CedrellaBlack> NONONO [15:50] <JaneMarple9> no, he tried that in book 1 [15:51] <HermyJaneGranger> yea, *fixed* being the operative word... [15:51] <fawkes28> i don't think he is going to go out of britain because harry is there and he need to get rid of him [15:51] <JaneMarple9> he sent Quirrel [15:51] <ststevens> Ron? [15:51] <TheAzkabanDietitian> horcrux in albania? [15:51] <ph63915> I think book 7 will be done and resolved before LV gets to consider taking over europe and the rest of the world [15:51] <Shard> Ron has a teacher? [15:51] <SevenofNine> Yes, fawkes--for now. [15:51] <Shard> Somehow I doubt it [15:51] <Evreka> lol ph [15:51] <SevenofNine> I think his eventual goal is broader. [15:51] <HermyJaneGranger> why would there be a horcrux in albania? [15:51] * mollywobbles23 protects Ron [15:51] <An_Eternal_Night> brb [15:51] <Hermy-One> *has to go, but has had so much fun. Bye everyone! [15:51] <CedrellaBlack> not really jane...quirrel was already up for the job when lv possed him [15:51] <HedwigJune> Ron's going to be with Harry..... [15:51] * CedrellaBlack helps molly [15:51] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i dunno... someone said he keeps going there [15:51] <HermyJaneGranger> bye bye [15:51] <Aislinn> people! can we please get back on track? [15:51] <CedrellaBlack> byebyee [15:51] *** Hermy-One left #lounge [] [15:51] <Alexk> Killing the parents of muggle babies, so that they would have to become orphans like him [15:51] <SevenofNine> Bye [15:51] <SoonerGryffindor> so back to the question-- what other plans for the muggle world? [15:51] <HedwigJune> sorry, Aislinn [15:51] <Shard> Because LV keeps hiding there, during his exile before PS and between PS to GoF he was in Albania [15:51] <You_wont_know_who> yes we can [15:51] <JaneMarple9> yes I suppose Ced. [15:52] <Shard> I think there is something in Albania [15:52] <SevenofNine> Where are we at Aislinn [15:52] <HermyJaneGranger> Murder of all Muggles [15:52] * mollywobbles23 is sorry for being distracted [15:52] <You_wont_know_who> a concentration camp for all the muggles [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> domination? [15:52] <CedrellaBlack> i odnt think there are many plans otehr than to cause havoc [15:52] <Shard> Yes Genocide for the Muggles [15:52] <AnnaNoe> ok i have to go bye all [15:52] <CedrellaBlack> and start a war in the muggle world [15:52] <SevenofNine> I'm more inclined to think of control of Muggles--slaves [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> slavery? [15:52] <Aislinn> bye anna [15:52] <Expelliarmas> bye Anna [15:52] <HermyJaneGranger> Voldemort=Hitler [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> beneath his notice? [15:52] <JaneMarple9> poor Muggles are in for a rough time sad [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Anna [15:52] <Books_4_eva> I think he's just going g=for mass panic wit the muggles... I think he knows there to many to try and kill them all [15:52] <SevenofNine> Too many dead bodies to take care of. [15:52] *** AnnaNoe left #lounge [] [15:52] <HedwigJune> would he hoard all the treasures of Muggles? [15:52] <Expelliarmas> he kills Muggles for fun [15:52] <ststevens> we are muggles [15:52] <futureweasley> I don't know about genocide, but I think that muggles who are in the way are goners [15:52] <You_wont_know_who> and he can make Inferi of them [15:52] <HedwigJune> raid Museums and so on? [15:52] <CedrellaBlack> that way theres no one to really blame [15:52] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> potential inferi army? [15:53] <SevenofNine> There's more than 6 billion muggles. [15:53] <You_wont_know_who> why noe [15:53] <You_wont_know_who> not [15:53] <HedwigJune> against who? [15:53] <Evreka> Urgh Sooner [15:53] <Expelliarmas> he doesn't have to kill Muggles to raid the world's treasures [15:53] <JaneMarple9> yes, but we know all about Voldemort and won't be fooled by him biggrin [15:53] <JillianS642> hmm ... I think they'd be easily controlled with dementor-induced depression. Other than that, he can control us all the same way our leaders already do (but no soapbox here) [15:53] <You_wont_know_who> against the wizards [15:53] <Alexk> Torturing muggles for fun, like he did in his childhood [15:53] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [15:53] <HermyJaneGranger> yup [15:53] <Theoriser> All through the OotP Voldemort was obsessed with finding out the rest of the prophecy. Now that a whole year has passed, do you think that he still wants to know? [15:53] <SevenofNine> Like Malfoy did to Dobby [15:53] <You_wont_know_who> Muggles are easy to controll as they don't believe in magic [15:53] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [15:53] <HedwigJune> hmmmmm [15:53] <CedrellaBlack> I dont think it matter [15:53] <You_wont_know_who> he knows [15:53] <CedrellaBlack> matters* [15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> wecome Pleshette [15:53] <Books_4_eva> yes I think he does [15:53] <Evreka> Yes, But how? [15:54] <SevenofNine> He spent a lot of time and effort on it to give up on it. [15:54] <Shard> Im not sure the prophecy would even have made a difference [15:54] <SevenofNine> Sybil is in trouble. [15:54] <Aislinn> I think he does want to know [15:54] <CedrellaBlack> hejust wants to kill harry [15:54] <JaneMarple9> he seems fixated about the phopercy [15:54] <Shard> Maybe getting Trewlawney [15:54] <Expelliarmas> He doesn't know it, but he wants to know it [15:54] <CedrellaBlack> and thats all there is to it [15:54] <Aislinn> but he may think that no one knows what it says [15:54] <You_wont_know_who> he might have learned it from Harry [15:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I stil think he may have plans on that [15:54] <ststevens> objectives: [15:54] <futureweasley> I think he will want to know...and I think that he's going to go straight to the source...Sybil [15:54] <ststevens> 1. Kill harry [15:54] <You_wont_know_who> Legillimency [15:54] <fawkes28> i think he does so he can finally destroy harry the right way [15:54] <HedwigJune> maybe he realizes it wouldn't tell him any more than he already knows: that he screwed up [15:54] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [15:54] <Theoriser> if I was him I'd want to know as much about that prophecy as I could [15:54] <An_Eternal_Night> he probably is still trying to find it out [15:54] <CedrellaBlack> yes stevens [15:54] <mollywobbles23> yeah, Trewlawney is danger; that's why DD wanted to keep her at Hogwarts even after she was sacked [15:54] <HedwigJune> Hi, cloudpic [15:54] <ststevens> 2. world domination [15:54] <HermyJaneGranger> didn't dumbledore say that Trelawny doesn't relize how much more danger she would be in in the outside word? [15:54] <JaneMarple9> oh yes, Sybil needs protecting in book seven or Voldemort will bring her to his side [15:54] <fawkes28> i think he realizes the mistake he made the first time [15:54] <cloudpic> Hi! [15:54] <JaneMarple9> weebee cloud [15:54] <Evreka> Yeah but he probably thinks that it says something like Harry will only die at full moon if hit by a yew tree [15:54] <Books_4_eva> I think he may of given up on it a bit when it got destroyed..... though I think it will come up at some point in 7 maybe in the last stand off between them [15:54] <cloudpic> Thanks [15:54] <futureweasley> hey Hermy...you are right [15:54] <Aislinn> you think snape told him that Trelawney was the one who made the prediction, FW? [15:55] <You_wont_know_who> Trelawney can't repeat it and Voldie must know it [15:55] <SevenofNine> LV could have already taken Sybil [15:55] <HermyJaneGranger> is that J.K. dropping a hint that Voldemort wants to get Trelawny? [15:55] <Expelliarmas> Trelawney has to be protected, or she could go like Bertha Jorkins [15:55] <HedwigJune> heehee Evreka [15:55] <futureweasley> yes, Aislinn...I do [15:55] <Alexk> Yeah, because the prophecy is going to make the outcome of his life [15:55] <HedwigJune> yeah!!! [15:55] <CedrellaBlack> lol evreka [15:55] <Shard> It is possible [15:55] <futureweasley> that's why DD is so keen to keep her at Hogwarts [15:55] <JillianS642> I don't think he knows Trelawny gave the prediction or he would have tried for her already. [15:55] <Shard> I mean Umbridge did sack Trelawney [15:55] <CedrellaBlack> and she still stayed [15:55] <JillianS642> I think, however, he's been trying to figure out who it came from. [15:55] <Aislinn> she's pretty well protected jillian - or was [15:55] <CedrellaBlack> trelawney is in danger [15:55] <Theoriser> What do you think Voldemort's plans may be as far as Sybil Trelawney is concerned? [15:55] <SevenofNine> But Sybil has hinted that she wants to go where she is appreciated. [15:55] <Evreka> I fear for Trelawney, even if I don't think she remembers the Prophecy [15:55] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [15:56] <Expelliarmas> and look at the steps DD took to keep Trelawney at Hogwarts after OOTP [15:56] <cloudpic> Get her and drain her brain like Bertha Jorkins' [15:56] <Gryffinclaw> Hi Guys [15:56] <Aislinn> he may go after her now that DD is out of the way [15:56] <HedwigJune> try to capture her and force the memory out of her [15:56] <CedrellaBlack> im not sure becuase she never remembers her prophecies [15:56] <Evreka> To kidnap and torture her [15:56] <You_wont_know_who> kill her and wheedle everything she knows first [15:56] <An_Eternal_Night> I have a feeling he is going to abduct her [15:56] <cloudpic> She doesn't have to remember for him to get it out [15:56] <Alexk> Torture predictions out of her [15:56] <CedrellaBlack> i dont thuink she has the memory [15:56] <Shard> He may go for Hogwarts next [15:56] <SevenofNine> And that was wtih kindly DD in charge. Minerva is not so patient. [15:56] <futureweasley> She's going to be attacked or kidnapped....think Ollivander and Fortescue [15:56] <fawkes28> he may try to get her to make a different prophecy one that will be in his favor [15:56] <Aislinn> he could force it out of her without her consciously remembering it ced [15:56] <HermyJaneGranger> can you force a memory of a prophesy out of a Seer? [15:56] <Shard> To get everything from Harry to Trelawney [15:56] <cloudpic> Conscious memory vs. subconscious... he'd get either [15:56] <SevenofNine> Sybil may already have been taken [15:56] <HedwigJune> Voldy: *squashes Hogwarts* [15:56] <JillianS642> She was well protected, but he still would have tried for her if he'd known. [15:56] <CedrellaBlack> no i dont think so jane [15:56] <Evreka> She doesn't remember them, but does he believe that? I wouldn't count on that [15:56] <CedrellaBlack> hermyjane* [15:56] <futureweasley> you might be able to use Legimency on a Seer [15:56] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [15:56] <JillianS642> and he will know soon enough, I bet. [15:57] <Expelliarmas> LV could try to break into Trelawney's brain; which would like take ages given Trelawney's penchant for senseless ramblings [15:57] <An_Eternal_Night> good point FW [15:57] <You_wont_know_who> but it doesn't hurt to try and kindnap her [15:57] <cloudpic> Even't if it's not conscious memory... it'd be there in her subconscious... [15:57] <Evreka> Perhaps she'll make another one? [15:57] <CedrellaBlack> good point fw [15:57] <ststevens> Bye people!!! [15:57] <HedwigJune> but would it? [15:57] <Books_4_eva> where will trelawney go if Hogwarts id closed.... I mean out of hogwarts there if very little protection and we really don't know how the order is getting on withough DD [15:57] <SevenofNine> sybil may have already been kidnapped [15:57] <CedrellaBlack> bye stevens [15:57] <mollywobbles23> bye [15:57] <HedwigJune> bye stevens!!! [15:57] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [15:57] *** ststevens left #lounge [] [15:57] <Aislinn> bye ststevens [15:57] <cloudpic> Maybe LV will be destroyed by wandering aimlessly in her brain [15:57] <CedrellaBlack> wb TAD [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree 7of9, I think Sybil is already taken [15:57] <Evreka> And then he want to hear it, and stop Harry from doing it [15:57] <Shard> Are we sure that would even work? Leginmins on Trelawney [15:57] <TheAzkabanDietitian> dc [15:57] <cloudpic> Bye SS [15:57] <Theoriser> would it even be in her memory though? it may not be [15:57] <futureweasley> if she doesn't produce the memory, he's lost nothing...he'll just kill her [15:57] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [15:57] <Aislinn> already? [15:57] <Shard> When did Sybill get taken? [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome carpe [15:57] <HermyJaneGranger> i think that Hogwarts would remain open to the teachers, but not to the students [15:57] <Gryffinclaw> Why do you think that seven? [15:57] <CedrellaBlack> hi carpe [15:57] <fawkes28> hi carpe [15:57] <futureweasley> hi CD! [15:57] <Aislinn> when do you think that happened [15:57] <SevenofNine> Draco's task was a diversion [15:57] <Shard> She was there the night the DE attacked.... [15:57] <You_wont_know_who> during the holiday? [15:57] <An_Eternal_Night> right SoN, the last time we saw her was the night that Dumbledore dies [15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> the night DD was killed [15:57] <Evreka> Hi Carpe [15:57] <cloudpic> Oh, dear... Ollivander, Fortescue, Trelawney [15:58] <HedwigJune> some people think Trelawney will make a third prediction [15:58] <CarpeDiem> Hello all! smile [15:58] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think so [15:58] <SevenofNine> Another group got in and took Sybil. [15:58] <cloudpic> Things come in threes... [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> shard, she hasnt been seen since that night [15:58] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette! (you snuck in and I didn't notice...sorry) [15:58] <Aislinn> it would have been difficult not to include that at the end of HBP [15:58] <HedwigJune> what if she does it in LV's presence? [15:58] <Shard> Was she at the Funeral? [15:58] <You_wont_know_who> but she did make three predictions [15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> nope [15:58] <SevenofNine> No one's seen her since that night that we've heard. [15:58] <CedrellaBlack> becuase look how long it is taking to resolve a prophecy made when harry was born [15:58] <TheAzkabanDietitian> another prediction? that's all we need... [15:58] <HermyJaneGranger> I don't think TRELAWNEY will make another prediction, but maybe someone else [15:58] <Theoriser> wouldn't we have heard something about that at the funeral though? [15:58] <mollywobbles23> interesting thought, hedwig [15:58] <Aislinn> I think that would be a pretty big thing to explain away in the next book [15:58] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [15:58] <An_Eternal_Night> Maybe Voldemort wants to be around if Sybill makes another one [15:58] <SevenofNine> The girls she usually hangs with have been pulled fromt he school [15:58] <Shard> Wouldn't someone notice? [15:58] <Aislinn> It would be like Jo deliberately misled us [15:58] <Evreka> I think she might make one more [15:58] <Gryffinclaw> We didn't hear about a lot of teachers there though did we [15:58] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [15:58] <cloudpic> Emotions were pretty high... maybe folks thought she was in seclusion (or drunk) [15:59] <CedrellaBlack> yes it would aislinn [15:59] <futureweasley> wb fawkes [15:59] <SevenofNine> Sybil is a solitary soul [15:59] <HedwigJune> lots of things come in threes [15:59] <cloudpic> She retreated to her tower a lot [15:59] <SevenofNine> And there was plenty already happening. [15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Trelawney still more of a role to play [15:59] <fawkes28> thanks [15:59] <cloudpic> I agree HedwigJune [15:59] <Evreka> Sybil is mostly a fake [15:59] <You_wont_know_who> rather a very drunk soul [15:59] <SevenofNine> I agree sooner [15:59] <Aislinn> still, they would have noticed if she was gone [15:59] <CarpeDiem> Why would they take Trelawny? Who besides DD would have known it was her that made the prohecy? Doesn't her voice change when the "true" predictions are being made? [15:59] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Professor Bicycle will make a prediction [15:59] <ph63915> sybil will be in the room of req drinking sherry hic! [15:59] <Gryffinclaw> lol [15:59] <Theoriser> Now that Dumbledore is dead, what do you think Voldemort's plans may be concerning the Order of the Phoenix? [15:59] <CedrellaBlack> be right back [15:59] <cloudpic> Snape would have known [15:59] <mollywobbles23> Snape knew [15:59] <SevenofNine> Even is she is still there, I think she will try to leave all by herself [15:59] <HermyJaneGranger> haha TAD [15:59] <HedwigJune> heeeheee TAD [15:59] <cloudpic> Get them! [15:59] <Evreka> To kill them off [15:59] <fawkes28> i think he will have less fear now [15:59] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [15:59] <You_wont_know_who> Voldie will try to kill them all [16:00] <Aislinn> I think that his plans for them would not be direct [16:00] <SevenofNine> LV and his DEs will go after them like they did last time [16:00] <fawkes28> and do what he wants to do with them [16:00] <cloudpic> Or collect them like shrunken heads [16:00] <HedwigJune> but if it was mentioned, that would've given us an even bigger cliffhanger.... [16:00] <Aislinn> just if they happen to get in his way [16:00] <futureweasley> I think Grimmauld Place will be in sirius trouble [16:00] <An_Eternal_Night> Get rid of them all [16:00] <cloudpic> Or imperio all of them! [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he may underestimate them [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> lol FW [16:00] <cloudpic> LOL future!\ [16:00] <Alexk> The order is good at hiding themselves, i don't think he'll get to them very easily [16:00] <HermyJaneGranger> hehehe [16:00] <Pleshette> I agree Sooner [16:00] <HermyJaneGranger> i like that little pun... [16:00] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Now that DD is gone... they are just a nuisance [16:00] <An_Eternal_Night> puns, puns, puns... [16:00] <fawkes28> i think he does want to hurt the people that are close to harry and see if they know anything that will help him [16:00] <Pleshette> DD held him back a bit [16:00] <Gryffinclaw> He will try to hit them early in book 7 because he believes that they are at there weakest point since there reform. A few order members will ide but a lot of DE's will be captured [16:00] <Evreka> haha fw [16:00] <SevenofNine> Gott run. It's been fun. [16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> by 7of9 [16:00] <cloudpic> Lures Harry and makes him act rashly [16:00] <HermyJaneGranger> bye [16:00] <fawkes28> bye [16:00] <futureweasley> bye SevenofNine [16:00] <Books_4_eva> bye [16:00] <An_Eternal_Night> Bye SoN [16:00] <cloudpic> Bye seven! [16:00] *** SevenofNine has quit [Bye] [16:01] <You_wont_know_who> they will have to wear the Invisibility cloaks all the time [16:01] <Gryffinclaw> Bye Seven [16:01] <HedwigJune> but LV can't find Grimmauld because DD was the Secret Keeper [16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> lol ywkw [16:01] <You_wont_know_who> bye Seven [16:01] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Do you think book 7 with open with a death? [16:01] <fawkes28> or he may use imperius on them to get to harry [16:01] <cloudpic> If DD can see through invisibility cloaks so can Voldie [16:01] <You_wont_know_who> yes [16:01] <futureweasley> I think that he's got a spy working to out all the OotP members...and I think he'll try to pick them off at a big event where a bunch of them will be at one time [16:01] <An_Eternal_Night> nobody else can know about Grimmauld place now [16:01] <Evreka> true, but the members aren't allways inside [16:01] <HermyJaneGranger> maybe, cloudpic [16:01] <CedrellaBlack> ithink it will open with many deaths [16:01] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [16:01] <HedwigJune> I think it will be filled with deaths [16:01] <You_wont_know_who> there will be a death during the wedding I am pretty sure [16:01] <CedrellaBlack> like people dying left and right [16:01] <fawkes28> wb, jane [16:01] <JaneMarple9> test [16:01] <Books_4_eva> most likly [16:01] <HedwigJune> "bloodbath" [16:02] <Pleshette> Perhaps a wedding (Bill and Fleur's?) [16:02] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ah... who is a spy among the order.... Dawlish! [16:02] <Evreka> bloodbath... [16:02] <Gryffinclaw> He can't find 12GP but a lot of order members will be at Bill + Fleurs wedding and he may attack them [16:02] <cloudpic> I think we'll hear lots of horror which has been happening [16:02] <Books_4_eva> >_< bloodbath [16:02] <CedrellaBlack> never knowing if you will see your family the next day [16:02] <HermyJaneGranger> that's right, AEN, no one else CAN... unless there's a new secreat keeper [16:02] <Gryffinclaw> *then* [16:02] <cloudpic> Oh, I hope not the wedding! [16:02] <HedwigJune> hopefully more than one wedding...... [16:02] <futureweasley> Bill & Fleur's wedding isn't going to be a peaceful event...though I wish it were [16:02] <HermyJaneGranger> secret* [16:02] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I don't think the wedding is an option [16:02] <CedrellaBlack> lol hedwig [16:02] <JaneMarple9> Aislinn, I told you wou could keep your poltergist in your computer smile [16:02] <Theoriser> Is there a specific Order member that may be in more danger? [16:02] <Alexk> Sirius was probably not the only one who knew about grimmauld place, how about his sister Mrs.Malfoy [16:02] <HermyJaneGranger> i agree, FW [16:02] <An_Eternal_Night> I hope the wedding isn't disturbed, but I can't imagine it NOT being disturbed [16:02] <CedrellaBlack> Lupin [16:02] <CarpeDiem> Well we have to imagine what happens when a secret keeper dies? [16:02] <futureweasley> all the Weasleys are in deep trouble [16:02] <JaneMarple9> Ginny [16:02] <You_wont_know_who> McGonagall [16:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Lupin is [16:02] <cloudpic> Why Lupin? [16:02] <CedrellaBlack> becuase he is a betraying werewolf [16:02] <Evreka> Lupin and Minerva? [16:02] <JaneMarple9> Lupin yes [16:02] <mollywobbles23> I think the wedding will be disturbed [16:02] <fawkes28> i think lupin is [16:02] <Books_4_eva> i think the wedding will be peasfull... Jk did say I would have a few light harted moments [16:02] <HedwigJune> Lupin, now that Greyback knows he's working for the order [16:02] <Gryffinclaw> Lupin, Weasleys [16:02] <Expelliarmas> is Harry a member of the Order, yet? [16:02] <SoonerGryffindor> because of Fenrir and PP [16:02] <cloudpic> Betraying who? [16:02] <HermyJaneGranger> there secret status stays the same Carpe [16:02] <fawkes28> because he was friends with james [16:03] <Gryffinclaw> No [16:03] <Theoriser> the weasleys definately [16:03] <futureweasley> with the exception of Percy...he might be ok if he backs Umbridge [16:03] <Evreka> no [16:03] <CedrellaBlack> In their eyes he works for the wrong side [16:03] <CarpeDiem> I thinik Snapes in trouble smile From both sides smile [16:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I can't pinpoint a specific member to be honst [16:03] <JaneMarple9> because he is working with the werewolves [16:03] <CedrellaBlack> yes carpe [16:03] <SoonerGryffindor> true Carpe [16:03] <HermyJaneGranger> who ever knew about the secret remains to know, but no one else can no [16:03] <HermyJaneGranger> know* [16:03] <cloudpic> Yeah...Snape. [16:03] <Evreka> The Weasleys are in danger [16:03] <CedrellaBlack> but seeing as snape is good hes okay [16:03] <futureweasley> good point Fawkes [16:03] <fawkes28> definitely, carpe [16:03] <You_wont_know_who> the head of the order will be in trouble [16:03] <SoonerGryffindor> he probably is the order member on the most danger [16:03] <Gryffinclaw> Is Snape still an order member? [16:03] <CarpeDiem> Why the Weasleys Evreka? [16:03] <JaneMarple9> snape's im deep trouble from both sides yes [16:03] <You_wont_know_who> no [16:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ah... no he's not [16:03] <Evreka> I fervently hope so Carpe! sad [16:03] <An_Eternal_Night> who is the next head of the Order? [16:03] <Pleshette> Good question Gryffinclaw [16:03] <futureweasley> Snape's in big trouble with me [16:03] <Gryffinclaw> Lupin [16:03] <CedrellaBlack> Technically yes he is an order member but he may get kicked out [16:03] <cloudpic> Would it not be ironic if he was killed off first thing after all our speculation?! (Snape) [16:03] <You_wont_know_who> Snape is not an Order member [16:03] <HermyJaneGranger> if snapes still an order member then i'm a flobberworm [16:03] <JaneMarple9> McGonagall maybe? [16:03] <futureweasley> forget the Order or the DEs [16:03] <Evreka> Because they are close to Harry [16:03] <HedwigJune> *sings* "Youuu can chaat, Youuu can tyype, having the time of your liiiife...." [16:03] <fawkes28> i think moody might be too...he has a lot of enemies among death eaters [16:04] <Alexk> does Voldemort consider the order as a real threat though? [16:04] <CedrellaBlack> I think that McG is smart enough to figure out that Snape is still on theyre side [16:04] <cloudpic> Yes, Snape's in the Order.... they need his spying.... [16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> so who is the order member that you guys think will be LV's biggest target now> [16:04] <You_wont_know_who> Hedwig, nice song [16:04] *** Ronikins has quit [Bye] [16:04] <JaneMarple9> or Lupin might be now [16:04] <Theoriser> Is there any chance that Voldemort has infiltrated the Order with another spy? [16:04] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol hedwig [16:04] <CedrellaBlack> no i dont think so [16:04] <TheAzkabanDietitian> yes i think so [16:04] <HedwigJune> *still listening to Broadway filks* [16:04] <Gryffinclaw> Maybe Prof McG [16:04] <You_wont_know_who> yes, a big chance [16:04] <cloudpic> McGonagall was really shaken at the end of HBP [16:04] <mollywobbles23> I don't think so. [16:04] <Evreka> Let's hope not! [16:04] <An_Eternal_Night> Moody maybe? [16:04] <fawkes28> i hope not [16:04] <CedrellaBlack> because there arent many order members left [16:04] <Gryffinclaw> No I don't think McG is a spy [16:04] <An_Eternal_Night> I don't think so [16:04] <You_wont_know_who> no, not Moody [16:04] <HedwigJune> aaaauuuuggghhhh!!! [16:04] <Gryffinclaw> Dung? [16:04] <Books_4_eva> I THINK SNAPE WAS THE ONLYH SPY [16:04] <JaneMarple9> hmmm Moody, yes perhaps [16:04] <TheAzkabanDietitian> mr mcgonahall saw that gryffinclaw! [16:04] <fawkes28> unless it's percy [16:04] <CedrellaBlack> AEN i hope not moody! [16:04] <cloudpic> No, not Moody [16:04] <Books_4_eva> oops [16:04] <cloudpic> Percy's not in the Order [16:04] <You_wont_know_who> an Auror would be the best - an active one [16:04] <Theoriser> I think there may be somebody in the order that is a spy [16:04] <CedrellaBlack> fawkes! [16:04] <HermyJaneGranger> not unles moody is under Barty Crouch Jr. again [16:04] <cloudpic> Is he? [16:05] <CedrellaBlack> percy is not in the order! [16:05] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Dawlish is a bad cookie [16:05] <Evreka> Dung is a danger from beginning to end though [16:05] <futureweasley> he'll have someone close to Harry under an Imperious...I'm sure of it [16:05] <HermyJaneGranger> fawkes? [16:05] <JaneMarple9> Mundungus would be easy to persuade I think [16:05] <Theoriser> it happened last time, and it can happen again [16:05] <fawkes28> when he could try to get back in it [16:05] <CedrellaBlack> and percyt is not a death eater! lol [16:05] <mollywobbles23> Barty Crouch Jr. got kissed by a Dementor [16:05] <HedwigJune> BCJ is dead...or as good as [16:05] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Dung reminds me of wormtail [16:05] <mollywobbles23> he's useless [16:05] <CedrellaBlack> lol TAD [16:05] <fawkes28> he is ambitious [16:05] <You_wont_know_who> Mundungus looks like a spy [16:05] <cloudpic> Charlie Weasley? [16:05] <futureweasley> BCJ? [16:05] <Expelliarmas> Dung is sitting in Azkaban [16:05] <mollywobbles23> Gasp! [16:05] <Shard> I think Krum will be under Imperius [16:05] <JaneMarple9> Mundungus was stealling [16:05] <Alexk> maybe he'll secretively kill a member of the order, and have someone on polyjuice potion take that person's place, maybe he's even doing it now [16:05] <cloudpic> He's the only Weasley who hasn't had much plot time [16:05] <Shard> Either that or Charlie [16:05] <mollywobbles23> Not a Weasley! [16:05] <HermyJaneGranger> wouldn't it be very strange if McG was a death eater? [16:05] <TheAzkabanDietitian> he is fed well i assure you expie [16:05] <CedrellaBlack> bcg? [16:05] <JaneMarple9> ok I give up...whos BCJ????????????????? [16:05] <HermyJaneGranger> not that i think she is [16:05] <ph63915> no more polyjuice please [16:05] <CedrellaBlack> no weasley is a de! [16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> did you guys maybe consider that E. Vance was a spy and that;s why Snape killed her? [16:05] <Aislinn> never a weasley [16:05] <Evreka> Not a chance Hermy [16:06] <CarpeDiem> lol TAD smile [16:06] <Pleshette> barty crouch jr. [16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe there are moles in the Order [16:06] <cloudpic> Impossible. Not Minerva. [16:06] <CedrellaBlack> ohhh [16:06] <Shard> Nice theory Sooner [16:06] <Expelliarmas> well, that's a relief, TAD [16:06] <futureweasley> good one Pleshette [16:06] <Pleshette> No not Minerva [16:06] <Gryffinclaw> Maybe he'll imperius Dung when he gets his DE's out of Azkaban [16:06] <mollywobbles23> Like Sirius said, everyone who is bad or self-serving is not a DE [16:06] <JaneMarple9> ah nice abreviation! [16:06] <futureweasley> I would have sat here for an hour trying to figure that out [16:06] <cloudpic> Charle could be imperioed [16:06] <You_wont_know_who> cloudpic - I agree - not Minerva [16:06] <Theoriser> Are there any other plans concerning the Order of the Phoenix that you think Voldemort may have? [16:06] <TheAzkabanDietitian> crouch doesn't DESERVE an acronym >.< [16:06] <CedrellaBlack> lol fw me too [16:06] <Alexk> are you sure it couldn't be a weasley, how did Ron just happen to have scabbers, and Harry just happened to run into him? [16:06] <JaneMarple9> no not Mcgonagal, she can't be taken over [16:06] <mollywobbles23> not everyone* is a DE* [16:06] <Evreka> That doesn't make sence Sooner [16:06] <mollywobbles23> eek [16:06] <Pleshette> Oh, I was just answering Jane's question about who bcj is, lol [16:06] <HermyJaneGranger> i don't think she is, i just thought it'd be slightly weird [16:06] <JaneMarple9> shes very intelligent [16:07] <fawkes28> i think he wants to pick them off one by one so they cant help harry [16:07] <mollywobbles23> Serendipity, alex [16:07] <CedrellaBlack> kill them off one by one [16:07] <CedrellaBlack> lol [16:07] <You_wont_know_who> first - to know what they know, second - kill them all [16:07] <TheAzkabanDietitian> it was said that scabbers was bills wasn't it> [16:07] <CedrellaBlack> not lol* [16:07] <Evreka> In that case Voldemort wouldn't have been happy about killing her [16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that LV again will underestimate the side of good and wont try to hunt them like he maybe should [16:07] <TheAzkabanDietitian> passed down pet [16:07] <mollywobbles23> it was Percy's [16:07] <futureweasley> The person in the order who is most likely to be used because of his position and his lack of magical ability to shrug off the Imperius is Ron [16:07] <JaneMarple9> no he was percys [16:07] <TheAzkabanDietitian> thanks molly [16:07] <mollywobbles23> currently rereading SS/PS [16:07] <An_Eternal_Night> Yes, he wants to know everything that they have found out [16:07] <CarpeDiem> If he were smart he would attempt to segragate them or try to plant seeds of doubt in their mind. If Snape was a spy - who else could be? Have them start doubting eeach other [16:07] <futureweasley> LV is going to target Ron [16:07] <fawkes28> i agree, future [16:07] <CedrellaBlack> why fw? [16:07] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid might be an Order member who needs to be careful [16:07] <Shard> My vote is for Krum or Charlie [16:07] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ouch [16:07] <HermyJaneGranger> why does ron have to die? [16:07] <futureweasley> he's close to Harry and he can't shake an Imperio [16:07] <An_Eternal_Night> I forgot all about Hagrid! [16:07] <cloudpic> Oh, I hope not. I still think it'll be Charlie [16:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ron doesn't have to die [16:08] <JaneMarple9> no, Hagrid's big enough to take care of himself [16:08] <mollywobbles23> He doesn't, Hermy! [16:08] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah I reckon Hagrid might make a mistake about an Order secret [16:08] <futureweasley> I didn't say Ron was going to die [16:08] <CedrellaBlack> yes expie especially becuase he is a half giant [16:08] <Evreka> Thing is, his own DEs are segregated too [16:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> krum will die [16:08] <fawkes28> i think hagrid could take them or die trying [16:08] <An_Eternal_Night> Hagrid might be in danger as well... [16:08] * mollywobbles23 hides under the covers [16:08] <You_wont_know_who> Hagrid is the loyal type [16:08] <Expelliarmas> because he was so close to DD [16:08] <JaneMarple9> but dangerous after a few firewhiskeys smile [16:08] <futureweasley> he's going to be used by LV to get close to Harry [16:08] <CedrellaBlack> makes sense fw [16:08] <HermyJaneGranger> oooooo [16:08] <CedrellaBlack> which means they should practice! [16:08] <HermyJaneGranger> ok, FW [16:08] <HermyJaneGranger> that makes sence [16:08] <cloudpic> Hagrid's going to be a mess... [16:08] <HedwigJune> so sorry, guys, had to find paper for the printer.....what're we talking about, now? [16:08] <cloudpic> Without Dumbledore [16:08] <JaneMarple9> yes Hagrid is the next closest to Harry [16:08] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Will Olympia fight? [16:08] <ph63915> harry would spot if ron were imperio'd [16:08] <HermyJaneGranger> possible [16:08] <HermyJaneGranger> possibly* [16:08] <Pleshette> I think she would [16:08] <HedwigJune> or Hermione would [16:08] <Books_4_eva> ye [16:08] <Gryffinclaw> Harry and hermione will notice if Ron is under the Imperius curse [16:09] <CedrellaBlack> yes [16:09] <HermyJaneGranger> she'll fight with Hagrid [16:09] <JaneMarple9> I think Hagrid will get a more important job in book 7 [16:09] <Evreka> definitely [16:09] <cloudpic> I think so... Hagrid talked about her abilities in a fight, didn't he? [16:09] <futureweasley> I don't think so, ph...it's not always noticable...think Ginny in CoS [16:09] <fawkes28> you never know though imperius can be tricky [16:09] <Gryffinclaw> yeah [16:09] <TheAzkabanDietitian> this is soo off topic :P [16:09] <HedwigJune> Hagrid: *dies* [16:09] <cloudpic> If he sobers up after the funeral [16:09] <Theoriser> There seem to be some characters missing in action: Foretescue and Ollivander.... Do you think that Voldemort has any plans concerning these 2 or any other missing characters? [16:09] <HermyJaneGranger> if Hogwarts will reopen, wouldn't it be great if Hagrid became head of Gryffindor? [16:09] <JaneMarple9> might be made head of Gryffindor [16:09] <Gryffinclaw> Ginny wasn't imperiused FW [16:09] <Alexk> how do we know dumbledore isn't a spy for lv? (too impossible) [16:09] <JaneMarple9> echo biggrin [16:09] <TheAzkabanDietitian> omg.... so hard [16:09] <cloudpic> Ollivander is in hiding... I hope [16:09] <futureweasley> I know, but she was possessed...and they didn't get it [16:09] <Shard> I think Ollivader is in hiding as well [16:09] <HedwigJune> LV WANTS TO DROWN HARRY IN ICE CREAM!!!! [16:09] <cloudpic> Forestescue is too. [16:09] <mollywobbles23> I think that Ron is strong enough to fight off the Imperius now. When faux Moody did it he was only 14. [16:09] <Shard> lol [16:09] <Evreka> I think there must be a reason they are kidnapped not killed [16:09] <HermyJaneGranger> Foretescue: i don't know... Ollivander: he wants him to make wands [16:10] <CedrellaBlack> But since books 1 and 7 are supposed to mirror do you think hermione will have one of thes (theres no wood) blunders in a battle during book 7? [16:10] <fawkes28> i think voldemort wants to make sure that his wand will work against harry's which is why he wants ollivander [16:10] <Evreka> lol hedwig [16:10] <JaneMarple9> well he might need Olivvander to make wands for deatheaters [16:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I still think there is more to this than we know [16:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think olly has been captured and fort is in hiding [16:10] <You_wont_know_who> these two might be hidding [16:10] <Aislinn> No caps please [16:10] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah but Harry didn't pay much attention to Ginny really [16:10] <cloudpic> That's why Ollivander too off. [16:10] <mollywobbles23> I definitely think Ollivander's disappearance is fishy [16:10] <HedwigJune> sorry, Aislinn [16:10] <cloudpic> *took [16:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I don't see Ollivander abandoning the wizard youth [16:10] <Books_4_eva> well eaither Ollivander left peasfully of he whent into hiding otherwhys wand would be scaters everywhere [16:10] <CarpeDiem> I think Olivander is important. LV and/or Harry will need a new wand. That and the magic involved in wand making is probably very ancient and powerful. Olivander is important and either he has hid himself , been captured, or is being protected. [16:10] <JaneMarple9> but Fortsecue...does Voldemort like Icecream? smile [16:10] *** Shard has quit [Bye] [16:10] <Gryffinclaw> A wand may be a Horcrux [16:10] <Evreka> I too trhink he want Ollicvanders wand skills [16:10] <HedwigJune> hell, yes, he does [16:10] <You_wont_know_who> Olliwander would be needed for Voldie's wand problem [16:10] <HedwigJune> sorry [16:10] <cloudpic> Fortescue knew things.... [16:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Fortescue was also the name of a Headmaster at hogwarts [16:11] <futureweasley> I think Fortescue was taken for his knowledge of the Founders...and Ollivander is either hiding or has run away for his knowledge of wand cores [16:11] <cloudpic> And had strong opinions [16:11] <CedrellaBlack> Fortescue knew a lot about goblin rebellions so he may know how to gewt them on LV's side [16:11] <An_Eternal_Night> In Scribbulus I read an amazing essay about how the wand on the cushion in Ollivander's shop might be the wand of Rowena Ravenclaw [16:11] * mollywobbles23 pictures Makani art that explains where Fortescue went off to [16:11] <fawkes28> obviously if he didn't want information from them then they would already be dead [16:11] <Evreka> Fortescue though - he might have a high pos within the Order? [16:11] <HedwigJune> oh, yeah!!! [16:11] <cloudpic> Good point, Cedrella [16:11] <JaneMarple9> it was yes. [16:11] <HermyJaneGranger> there's a thought, CB [16:11] <TheAzkabanDietitian> good one Ced [16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> so lets focus a little more guys..... do you think LV has specific plans for them? [16:11] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol molly [16:11] <CarpeDiem> Interesting thought AEN [16:11] <Expelliarmas> Wasn't a fortescue ancestor a former Headmaster of Hogwarts? [16:11] <JaneMarple9> he might have been a previous Order member [16:11] <Alexk> Possibly Ollivander was helping Voldemort, cause he gave Harry a wand that was connected to Voldemort's wand, which could be seen as a way of protecting Harry(priori incantatem), or as a way of hurting Harry by making the connection between him and Voldy even stronger [16:11] *** Books_4_eva has quit [Bye] [16:11] <TheAzkabanDietitian> oooooo AEN [16:11] <You_wont_know_who> bye Eva [16:11] <Aislinn> I wonder if Fortescue has some information, as a relative of the former headmaster, that LV wants to make use of [16:11] <HedwigJune> ...or fortesque himself [16:12] <CedrellaBlack> maybe ais [16:12] <cloudpic> The wand chose Harry.... not Ollivander's decision [16:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I think so Aislinn [16:12] <Gryffinclaw> LV's DE's will need wands after they escape from Azkaban [16:12] <cloudpic> Ollivander is not bad. [16:12] <Evreka> exactly hedwig [16:12] *** Madsdagirl has joined #lounge [16:12] <JaneMarple9> yes I can see Ollivander working for Voldemort [16:12] *** Shard has joined #lounge [16:12] <CedrellaBlack> well ollivander chose that wand to try on him [16:12] <JaneMarple9> he's in a prominant position there [16:12] <HedwigJune> not willingly!!! [16:12] <Madsdagirl> Hi! [16:12] <Aislinn> I'm still not convinced that LV has Ollivander [16:12] <cloudpic> I can't see Ollivander working for Voldemort. This post has been edited by futureweasley: Oct 16 2006, 08:36 PM |
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[16:12] <You_wont_know_who> no, Olliwander works only for himself
[16:12] <HermyJaneGranger> maybe Ollivander has a special abbility (other than making wands) [16:12] <HedwigJune> hey!! [16:12] <Aislinn> I think DD might have hidden him [16:12] <JaneMarple9> he could give children any wand he wanted [16:12] <CedrellaBlack> me neither cloud [16:12] <Shard> I think Olli got away [16:12] <cloudpic> I think Ollivander is in hiding... sort of like Slughorn [16:12] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Fortescue and the hidden entryway used by goblins to Hogwarts makes sense... [16:12] <mollywobbles23> If Olly is working for LV, it's not by choice [16:12] <Shard> Fortesque may not have been so lucky [16:12] <Evreka> No Jane the wand chooses the wizard [16:12] <mollywobbles23> *Imperio!* [16:12] <cloudpic> Fortescue's shop was destroyed though [16:12] <You_wont_know_who> he sells them for ages and had seen many other dark lords [16:13] <Theoriser> What do you think that Voldemort's plans are for the DE's (Lucius and Co.) that are still locked up in Azkaban? [16:13] <CedrellaBlack> good point AEN! [16:13] <Pleshette> Yeah, Ais I agree [16:13] <ph63915> Take away Ollie and in a few years no Hogwarts student has a wand.... [16:13] <HedwigJune> no, just boarded up [16:13] <An_Eternal_Night> no, it wasn't destroyed, it was just locked up [16:13] <Evreka> free them [16:13] <You_wont_know_who> they will rot in their cells [16:13] <Gryffinclaw> He will get them out [16:13] <JaneMarple9> yes but he might had made the wands to obey him smile [16:13] <futureweasley> he's going to let them rot [16:13] <TheAzkabanDietitian> eventually [16:13] <Madsdagirl> he'll want them out [16:13] <Shard> What's guarding Azkaban? Aurors? [16:13] <mollywobbles23> I think he will get them out [16:13] <Evreka> Except Lucius [16:13] <cloudpic> Harry's wand works too well for him to have one that wasn't his ideal. [16:13] <An_Eternal_Night> I agree FW [16:13] <Evreka> he might want him killed [16:13] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [16:13] <HedwigJune> he'll make them swim back to land [16:13] <An_Eternal_Night> he doesn't care about them [16:13] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i think so shard [16:13] <HermyJaneGranger> well, LV doesn't really like LM that much anymore, so I don't think he has plans for LM [16:13] <Expelliarmas> He's going to make Lucius grovel [16:13] <futureweasley> they are the least "loyal" in his eyes...he has no use for them [16:13] <Aislinn> It depends on whether he feels that Draco did well enough in his task, whether he willl consider forgiving Lucius [16:13] <fawkes28> i think he may give them another chance and if they do not follow through then he will kill them [16:13] <You_wont_know_who> LV is not the caring type of superior [16:14] <Shard> I wonder if LV will order Draco to kill his father to prove himself.... [16:14] <Gryffinclaw> He might crucio a few of them [16:14] <cloudpic> Can't ssay I wouldn't mind seeing Lucius grovel. [16:14] <JaneMarple9> It's going to be hard on Draco [16:14] <Pleshette> Yeah, Expel...I think he may use Draco and Lucius against each other somehow [16:14] <Evreka> urgh Shard [16:14] <TheAzkabanDietitian> another MN ediorial shard! [16:14] <Aislinn> I don't think he has enough followers to kill them off shard [16:14] <JaneMarple9> Voldemort is going to make the Malfoy familt pay [16:14] <HedwigJune> ooh, and then Draco will come to our side... [16:14] <mollywobbles23> I think Draco is long gone [16:14] <HermyJaneGranger> that's the kind of thing LV would do, Shard [16:14] <cloudpic> Draco is with Snape. [16:14] <cloudpic> Still. [16:14] <Aislinn> he would be more likely to use crucio then death [16:14] <Shard> He wwanted Draco to die [16:14] <JaneMarple9> yes I srill think Draco might come good [16:14] <HermyJaneGranger> Draco has crossed to the dark side [16:14] <HedwigJune> true, cloud [16:14] <Shard> He expected Draco to die, seems like a waste to me [16:14] <Aislinn> but he saw draco as a child [16:14] <Evreka> yeah, and Draco failed him [16:14] <Aislinn> not important [16:14] <HedwigJune> but Harry felt sorry for him! [16:15] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [16:15] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco won't last long.... but I hold out hope he is bitten by Fenrir Greyback [16:15] <Pleshette> I think Draco and Lucius will suffer but LV will still want to use them [16:15] <mollywobbles23> I don't think Draco is evil or good. He's out to protect himself [16:15] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [16:15] <Evreka> lolDietist [16:15] <cloudpic> Draco and Snape a lot alike? [16:15] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [16:15] <JaneMarple9> Harry felt sorry for him...even I felt sorry for him smile [16:15] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Mmmm.... I think he cares about his family molly [16:15] <Gryffinclaw> I don't think Draco did fail him as Snape says that "he intends for Snape to do it in the end" [16:15] <An_Eternal_Night> Draco reminds me of Regulus Black [16:15] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i pity him to an extent [16:15] <HermyJaneGranger> in a way, Draco is a coward, he's out for the most powerful (in his eyes) protection he can get [16:15] <JaneMarple9> They are quite alike, Draco and Snape [16:15] <mollywobbles23> me too, eternal [16:15] <HedwigJune> *turned into slytherin by Makani* [16:15] <An_Eternal_Night> the Dark side might be too much for him [16:15] <futureweasley> HedwigJune: look at the top of the screen, please [16:15] <You_wont_know_who> perhapt the members of the Order will free them [16:16] <cloudpic> Except that Snape never struck me as cowardly [16:16] *** HedwigJune has quit [Bye] [16:16] <JaneMarple9> We don't know much about Regulus though do we? [16:16] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ahhh.... reggie [16:16] <cloudpic> No, just specuation [16:16] <Theoriser> We've seen Voldemort's DE's actively recruiting Giants and we know that Fenrir was working on the werewolves. What other types of magical creatures or beings do you think that Voldemort will want on his side and why? [16:16] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i keep ahing [16:16] <JillianS642> the goblins. [16:16] *** HedwigJune has joined #lounge [16:16] <HermyJaneGranger> Goblins, possibly [16:16] <TheAzkabanDietitian> acromantula [16:16] <HedwigJune> sorry? [16:16] *** Val_Halla has joined #lounge [16:16] <cloudpic> Goblins. They're dissatisfied and warlike. [16:16] <JaneMarple9> Centaurs? [16:16] <Evreka> What about the acromantulas in FF? [16:16] <JillianS642> they are bitter and would love to join him. As for why he'd like them ... thanks, cloud! [16:16] <TheAzkabanDietitian> they want food [16:16] <mollywobbles23> We know that Regulus was raised much like Draco, that he became a DE, and that he "panicked" and was killed. We think he's RAB [16:17] <cloudpic> Not the centaurs... they don't get involved. [16:17] <Gryffinclaw> Inferi [16:17] <You_wont_know_who> Goblins for sure [16:17] <An_Eternal_Night> *flipping through my Fandtastic Beasts book* [16:17] <HermyJaneGranger> ooooooooo... acromantualas would be HARD to get [16:17] <Gryffinclaw> Dementors [16:17] <Gryffinclaw> Trolls [16:17] <HermyJaneGranger> as well as Centaurs [16:17] <JaneMarple9> Trolls for sure [16:17] <mollywobbles23> giants [16:17] <HedwigJune> it doesn't say I have new messages.... [16:17] <ph63915> blast ended scrutes [16:17] <cloudpic> Not centaurs. [16:17] <Evreka> trolls and giants [16:17] <Gryffinclaw> Hags [16:17] <Alexk> Veelas for entertainment? [16:17] <HermyJaneGranger> he has the Dementores, I thought [16:17] <JaneMarple9> Inferi..more of them [16:17] <cloudpic> Not merpeople [16:17] <HedwigJune> eewwww [16:17] <JillianS642> why hags, gryffin? [16:17] <TheAzkabanDietitian> merpeople can NOT join LV.... I like them too much [16:17] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the Giant Squid will battle inferi [16:17] <Evreka> Why would they? [16:18] <cloudpic> Any group which has been dissed regularly by the status quo Wizarding World [16:18] <Gryffinclaw> I'm just saying all the creatures tah twere in the WOMBAT question "What creature is classified most dangerous by the MoM" [16:18] <HedwigJune> I'm so lost [16:18] <Evreka> House elves? I can't see that though.. [16:18] <Gryffinclaw> lol [16:18] <cloudpic> LOL AzkabanDiet... I like that! [16:18] <CarpeDiem> Voldemort will want anything that he can control and that causes fear. Chaos appears to be his favorite tool. [16:18] <Pleshette> No, House elves fear LV [16:18] <fawkes28> he may want to get a hold of the money at gringotts so that he is in control of it [16:18] <You_wont_know_who> no, not house elves, but what about the centaurs? [16:18] <Theoriser> we're talking about which creatures Voldemort might want to recruit HedwigJune [16:18] <HedwigJune> ok, now I got it [16:18] <cloudpic> House Elves have to be loyal to their house... so it depends on where they work [16:18] <HedwigJune> thanks [16:18] <TheAzkabanDietitian> The merpeople will at last join with the giant squid to fight one enemy.... so poetic [16:18] <mollywobbles23> centaurs would rather die than work for either side, I think [16:19] <Alexk> house elves would be useful for spying [16:19] <An_Eternal_Night> will he try to get the goblins? Voldy massacred many goblins the last time he was in power [16:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> centaurs are a no go [16:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> but they did like DD [16:19] <cloudpic> Oh! What if Voldie gets Hogwarts! Then all the house elves there would be his minions!! [16:19] <Evreka> Yeah but except from Kreacher I don't think they'd want it [16:19] <Gryffinclaw> yeah [16:19] <cloudpic> Poor Dobby. [16:19] <JaneMarple9> house-elfs are excellent if they needed a spy [16:19] <HedwigJune> nooo!!!! [16:19] <TheAzkabanDietitian> LV will try and control the FF... centaurs won't stand for that I think [16:19] <cloudpic> He'd not want to work for Voldemort. [16:19] <HedwigJune> the house elves will work for us [16:19] <mollywobbles23> No, I think they're all too loyal to DD. He treated them well. [16:19] <JaneMarple9> not Dobby but Winky and definitely Kreacher [16:19] <Evreka> centaurs will follow no human [16:19] <cloudpic> No. I agree, the Centaurs would independently fight whomever abused their rights. [16:20] <Alexk> The hogwarts elves wouldn't betray hogwarts after spew [16:20] * mollywobbles23 imagines Dobby being general for the Hogwarts houselves to protect the school. [16:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> centarus will defend their territory though [16:20] <Gryffinclaw> If DD employed them then the house-elves are now free as DD is dead [16:20] <JaneMarple9> Kreacher would be easy to persuade [16:20] <Theoriser> Did he promise the giants, dementors and werewolves anything in particular? If so, what could it have been and how does he plan on delivering? [16:20] <Pleshette> Maybe Dobby and Hermione will finally convince them to break that bond [16:20] <cloudpic> The House Elves have to be loyal to the House... if Volde gets Hogwarts... they're his [16:20] *** HermyJaneGranger has quit [Bye] [16:20] <Gryffinclaw> KReacher is Harrys [16:20] <Aislinn> hedwig, please click on button at top of your screen that has futureweasley's name on it [16:20] <HedwigJune> the house elves will defeat Voldemort with Dobby's socks!! *oops* [16:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> no... i think the hogwarts house elves belong to hogwarts itself [16:20] *** Riddle2 has joined #lounge [16:20] <Gryffinclaw> No they are loyal to their owners [16:20] <JaneMarple9> good point Gryffin [16:20] <cloudpic> Respect. [16:20] <HedwigJune> hi, riddle [16:20] <cloudpic> Blood. [16:20] <Evreka> Dobby regards himself as Harry's [16:20] <Shard> Well the Giants and Dementors and Werewolves were probably promised fresh victims, muggles and wizards alike [16:21] <JaneMarple9> yes but he doesn't really respect Harry, Kreacher doesn't [16:21] <HedwigJune> true, shard [16:21] <You_wont_know_who> but wizards are so arrogant and DD is dead...centaurs might be tempted by the promise of some rights, so might be goblins [16:21] <mollywobbles23> Well, the dementors and bad werewolves have all the "food" they want at their disposal.The Giants get to destroy stuff [16:21] <Alexk> he could probably promise the happy memories of muggles to dementors because lv can easily manipulate muggles [16:21] <Gryffinclaw> Yes but he's still Harrys [16:21] <JaneMarple9> he wishes he belongs to the Malfoys [16:21] <JillianS642> Whatever he promised them, he has no intention of following through. If they happen to get it, that's fine, but no special plans for it. [16:21] <cloudpic> Doesn't matter. Dobby didn't respect the Malfoys but had to do their will. [16:21] <cloudpic> I agree Jilian! [16:21] <An_Eternal_Night> people to prey on for the dementors, and better rights for the werewolves [16:21] <fawkes28> i think he promised them all fair and equal treatment of that humans get...example werewolves are shunned from society, voldemort probably promised to change that and give them power [16:21] <cloudpic> Jillian, sorry [16:21] <cloudpic> Empty promises. [16:22] <Gryffinclaw> yeah [16:22] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [16:22] <TheAzkabanDietitian> he promised whatever he needed to to gain trust... he will betray all [16:22] <An_Eternal_Night> yeah fawkes [16:22] <HedwigJune> hi, expel! [16:22] <You_wont_know_who> yes, cloudpic but some people and wizarding ceratures don't know Voldemort [16:22] *** mode/#lounge [+o Expelliarmas] by Snuffles [16:22] <JaneMarple9> hi expel! [16:22] <Aislinn> Hedwig? [16:22] <Expelliarmas> hi guys [16:22] <HedwigJune> huh? [16:22] <fawkes28> voldemort knows how to prey on weakness; he knows how to make empty promises [16:22] <CarpeDiem> I beleive he probably appealed to the fact they are being shunned by most of the wizards. Perhaps he promised them equality and the ability to turn thigs around. [16:22] <fawkes28> wb, expel [16:22] <Aislinn> click the button with futureweasley on it at top of your screen [16:23] <cloudpic> No.. all creatures are subject to persuasion... especially powerful persuasion...right [16:23] <HedwigJune> yes, I said I got it [16:23] <HedwigJune> message, I mean [16:23] <fawkes28> right, carpe, and voldemort gets them to do what he wants and then he backs out of his promise [16:23] <Theoriser> Do you think that Voldemort will continue working on gathering his army, or has he finished with that and is now ready to move on to more sinister plans? [16:23] <TheAzkabanDietitian> will continue [16:23] <Aislinn> it was not clear, since you did not use a name [16:24] <Gryffinclaw> He will continue building his army and move on to sinister plans [16:24] <futureweasley> what could be more sinister than total world domination? [16:24] <Theoriser> I think he'd do both [16:24] <cloudpic> On going... but that's just one aspect of his "work" [16:24] <Expelliarmas> he's got his army--he can now focus on executing his plans [16:24] <HedwigJune> wouldn't the army be sinister enough? [16:24] <mollywobbles23> probably works on that over the summer [16:24] <JaneMarple9> he will carry on recruiting [16:24] <HedwigJune> sorry, aislinn [16:24] <You_wont_know_who> he will continue [16:24] <An_Eternal_Night> I think he is still gathering [16:24] <mollywobbles23> we'll hear about it throught the Daily Prophet [16:24] <fawkes28> i think he never stops trying to get his army to grow [16:24] <ph63915> he willl have his army in place now [16:24] <An_Eternal_Night> he will probably never stop gathering [16:24] <Pleshette> I think we'll find out early on, first chapter [16:24] <JaneMarple9> and also work on his plans too [16:24] <TheAzkabanDietitian> to hades with the Daily Prophet! [16:24] <Alexk> I think he thinks that his power alone is enough, but just for the fun of having more people to control, he'll keep recruiting [16:24] <fawkes28> i think he is powerful enough now to continue making horrible plans [16:24] <HedwigJune> got it, future [16:24] *** MafaldaWeasley has joined #lounge [16:24] <You_wont_know_who> but his plans might be multi-layered [16:24] <HedwigJune> Hi, mafalda! [16:24] <fawkes28> especially since dumbledore is out of thr way [16:25] <cloudpic> And fearful people will join his side [16:25] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah YWNW [16:25] <TheAzkabanDietitian> mafyyyy! [16:25] <You_wont_know_who> hi mafalda [16:25] <MafaldaWeasley> hey guys!!!!!!! [16:25] <JaneMarple9> and weak people will join Voldemort's side [16:25] <Pleshette> Yes fawkes, he probably feels he has a clear path, no holding back [16:25] <HedwigJune> like who? [16:25] <You_wont_know_who> he must protect his Horcruxes and fight and gather more forces [16:25] <JaneMarple9> and all the people who have been in Slytherin [16:25] <cloudpic> Yes, Jane... like Peter Pettigrew [16:25] <HedwigJune> what weak people? [16:26] <cloudpic> Not all Slytherins are bad, though.... [16:26] <Pleshette> I wonder if he's concerned about horcruxes? [16:26] <fawkes28> people who can easily be swayed [16:26] * mollywobbles23 is losing patience waiting for Book 7 [16:26] <Gryffinclaw> I think he might be arrogant enough to think none knows about his Horcruxs now DD's dead [16:26] <JaneMarple9> He'll have lots of Slytherin's [16:26] <Pleshette> He may be confident that they are well hidden [16:26] <CarpeDiem> I think as LV starts to spread more chaos, it will be much easier to recruit "members" to do whatever he likes. [16:26] <cloudpic> Yes, he always seemed to [16:26] <Gryffinclaw> arn't we all molly [16:26] <Theoriser> At the end of HBP we heard straight from Severus Snape that nobody was to touch Harry Potter-- "Have you forgotten our orders? Potter belongs to the Dark Lord--we are to leave him! Go! Go!". Was Snape lying or does Voldemort really want Harry left all to him? [16:26] <JaneMarple9> Can you think of any good present slytherin? smile [16:26] <mollywobbles23> I agree, carpediem [16:26] <HedwigJune> both [16:26] <An_Eternal_Night> Slughorn is goo [16:26] <Gryffinclaw> LV wants Harry all to himself [16:27] <An_Eternal_Night> *good [16:27] <cloudpic> Depends on which side Snape's on... [16:27] <JaneMarple9> ok Slughorn's good smile [16:27] <You_wont_know_who> Voldemort wants Harry for himself [16:27] <Pleshette> I don't think he was lying at all [16:27] <HedwigJune> for now: both [16:27] <JillianS642> definitely wants him - it's revenge, it's a power show, it's key! [16:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> LV doesn't share [16:27] <Expelliarmas> LV also said Harry was his in GoF; so it is true, LV wants to kill Harry himself [16:27] <futureweasley> I don't really know...it's such an omnious statement [16:27] <Aislinn> he was not lying [16:27] <JaneMarple9> Snape didn't want to do it himself [16:27] <fawkes28> no i think that voldemort wants harry all to himself [16:27] <cloudpic> Yes... Voldie needs to prove he can kill Harry Potter. [16:27] <Alexk> I still think it's possible that Snape's good, and that Snape killing DD was part of DD's plan [16:27] <HedwigJune> how can you tell? [16:27] <CarpeDiem> It was an order but I think it would have also been a way to protect harry. [16:27] <cloudpic> Since he's tried ... especially so brazenly [16:27] <mollywobbles23> Yeah, LV wants Harry for himself. The real querry is why Snape didn't take Harry to Voldemort then and there. [16:27] <cloudpic> and falied. [16:27] <TheAzkabanDietitian> but he can't [16:27] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [16:28] <JaneMarple9> he wants to prove it yes...but he won't be able too! [16:28] <fawkes28> but i think snape wanted to stress this in case any of the DEs got too excited and did something stupid [16:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he was speaking the truth, and that LV has specific plans for Harry [16:28] <Aislinn> its personal for LV now - he needs to prove to his DEs that he can kill this upstart kid [16:28] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [16:28] <Pleshette> But what I don't understand is why Snape didn't bring Harry at that point, to LV [16:28] <mollywobbles23> Perhaps Voldy was still working out the wand thing with Olly? [16:28] <Aislinn> since some of them saw Harry escape in the graveyard [16:28] <HedwigJune> oh, he wan't lying because the DE's followed him [16:28] <ph63915> I think LV is guessing about the contents of the phrop and thinks he has to kill him [16:28] <cloudpic> Good point fawkes [16:28] <futureweasley> LV definitely has a "me, me, me" complex...similar to Harry's "hero complex"...they just don't know how to do anything different [16:28] <MafaldaWeasley> guy, I think must of LV's plans relies on his arrogance of thinking that people do not know about the horcruxes.. I think that once he discovers that Harry knows it he'll get more violent [16:28] <fawkes28> voldemort doesnt want any old person killing harry [16:28] <Pleshette> I agree Mafalda [16:28] <You_wont_know_who> Voldy wants to make a showcase out of Harry [16:28] <Expelliarmas> He needs to prove to everyone, not just the DEs that he can kill Harry; to avoid a future updstart [16:28] <futureweasley> right...the largest feather in his cap [16:28] <HedwigJune> yeah, and Harry doesn't want any old person killing LV [16:28] <JaneMarple9> Voldemort wants to do it himself, so he knows he is dead [16:28] <Expelliarmas> *upstart [16:28] <cloudpic> As long as Harry's around... there's someone that people can point to that Voldie can't kill. Gives hope [16:29] <Theoriser> good point Hedwig [16:29] <Gryffinclaw> Snape got chased off by buckbeak before he could take Harry [16:29] <Alexk> If harry's dead, there's no more hope for the wizard world or the muggles [16:29] <Pleshette> Wouldn't Snape be "his most loyal servant" if he delivered Harry to LV? [16:29] <Theoriser> What do you think Voldemort's plans are to get to Harry Potter? [16:29] <Alexk> he's the only one who can challenge lv's powers [16:29] <JaneMarple9> but he won't be able too (Jane crosses fingers behind her back! biggrin) [16:29] <HedwigJune> stalker! [16:29] <futureweasley> that's a great point Hedwig...but Harry knows that not any old person can kill LV...it's all on him [16:29] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [16:29] <Alexk> they're equal in power [16:29] <cloudpic> Lure him with some bait: Ginny? [16:29] <Aislinn> I think he feels he has a clear path, now that DD is gone [16:29] <Gryffinclaw> I think he will atack Hogwarts when Harry isn't there [16:29] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [16:29] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [16:29] <Aislinn> me too gryff [16:30] <cloudpic> He did that in Book 1... arc theory [16:30] <futureweasley> I've said it before, he's going to go after Ron or Ginny to get close to Harry [16:30] <You_wont_know_who> there's a better bait - Snape [16:30] <fawkes28> i think he wants to make harry suffer the way that voldemort had to suffer all of those years [16:30] <mollywobbles23> I'm not sure, but I don't think it matters. I think Harry will come to him on his own terms and with a plan. [16:30] <CedrellaBlack> hey guys hats the question? [16:30] <CedrellaBlack> whats* [16:30] <Gryffinclaw> Good idea YWKW [16:30] <ph63915> first attack will be at the wedding..... [16:30] <HedwigJune> attack Privet Drive, then Grimmauld Place, then the Burrow, then Godric's Hollow... [16:30] <JaneMarple9> He wants control the school [16:30] <CedrellaBlack> that would be really depressing ph [16:30] <Alexk> does lv know where the burrow is? [16:30] <futureweasley> yes, attack all the places where Harry feels "comfortable" [16:30] <Gryffinclaw> What will LV do to get to HP? [16:30] <CedrellaBlack> agreed future [16:30] <JaneMarple9> No, the wedding will be a happy one [16:30] <futureweasley> LV doesn't, but Snape does [16:30] <ph63915> depressing but there will be a lot of the order there to fend him off [16:30] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I fear for the Burrow [16:30] <CarpeDiem> Cedrella: we're wonder what LV's plan is going to be for Harry [16:30] <MafaldaWeasley> I think the will attack somebody really important first.. somebody who can really affect not only the order but Harry himself [16:31] <HedwigJune> no, the DE's will crash it [16:31] <CedrellaBlack> thanks gryffinclaw [16:31] <cloudpic> I sincerely hope you're right, Jane ... it'd be too awful if it isn't [16:31] <CedrellaBlack> ssoner is wearing her invisibility cloak again [16:31] <Pleshette> I still think of the Burrow as safe, a haven [16:31] <HedwigJune> huh? [16:31] <Pleshette> I hope it doesn't get attacked [16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm hre [16:31] <TheAzkabanDietitian> sooooooooneeeeeerrrrrr [16:31] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ah ha! [16:31] <Theoriser> Do you think that Voldemort will try to use Legilimacy again on Harry? Why or why not? [16:31] <CedrellaBlack> lol [16:31] <JillianS642> me too pleshette! [16:31] <CedrellaBlack> yes [16:31] <JaneMarple9> I'm hoping for a double wedding - with Lupin and Tonks too! [16:31] <Gryffinclaw> No [16:31] <Aislinn> I'm afraid its not pleshette [16:31] <mollywobbles23> yes [16:31] <Val_Halla> Yes [16:31] <TheAzkabanDietitian> yes, but hopefully he will fail [16:31] <Pleshette> smile [16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he might, but that it will backfire again on him [16:31] <You_wont_know_who> he won't use it [16:31] <HedwigJune> he doesn't want to risk Harry seeing into his mind [16:32] <futureweasley> I hope the wedding is Harry's calm before the storm...and I think JKR will use it as such...but I don't see all those Order Members being in one place being unavoidable for attack [16:32] <CedrellaBlack> hopefully harry will keep working on occlumency [16:32] <fawkes28> i think he might to find out if harry destroyed all the horcruxes [16:32] <Gryffinclaw> because he has been using Occulemency against him and it will be too busy a turn around [16:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> who will harry learn occlumency from then? [16:32] <An_Eternal_Night> I dont think he will [16:32] <Gryffinclaw> Noone [16:32] <CedrellaBlack> he should practice on his own [16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry will never learn Oclumency... JKR said so [16:32] <Gryffinclaw> *No one* [16:32] <CarpeDiem> I think Snape was warning him of that very fact [16:32] <HedwigJune> Harry doesn't need to use his mind [16:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> he HAS to learn [16:32] *** Madsdagirl has quit [Bye] [16:32] <Aislinn> I don't think Harry will ever learn Occlumency - -and I don't think he needs to [16:32] <HedwigJune> because he has a heart [16:32] <cloudpic> Why would he need leglimency on Harry? If he's got Harry... he'll kill him. Harry doesn't have any secrets, does he? [16:32] <MafaldaWeasley> yes he will but i think the mind of them both are so connected that he'll regret having tried to use Legimens on Harry [16:32] <Shard> I agree Sooner [16:32] <You_wont_know_who> Griffinclaw I agree [16:32] <Evreka> so what are we discussing? [16:32] <fawkes28> he won't learn other things are more important [16:32] <CedrellaBlack> awwww =[ [16:32] <Shard> Harry doesnt have the ability to learn it [16:32] <Shard> and in facvt it may be best that he doesnt [16:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> He needs to be able to block his mind from outside sources though [16:33] <mollywobbles23> Will Voldy use Leglimancy on Harry, Evreka. [16:33] <Aislinn> he may discover that Harry is hunting the Horcruxes, and want to learn what Harry has discovered [16:33] <HedwigJune> like...snape? [16:33] <SoonerGryffindor> we are disucssing whether or not LV will try to use LEgilimacy on Harry [16:33] <Aislinn> that would be one reason for using it [16:33] <Alexk> even, if he does, harry's mind was strong enough to break the imperius curse in the fourth book, i think harry's mind is pretty strong, or atleast stronger than most underage wizards [16:33] <Shard> Harry may need to leave his mind wide open in order to really fight LV [16:33] <Evreka> Oh, thanks [16:33] <fawkes28> yes, aislinn [16:33] <JaneMarple9> legilimency could be vital in book 7 [16:33] <futureweasley> he could learn it...he just won't. Harry is a little ADD in that fashion [16:33] <Evreka> I think he might be careful [16:33] <CedrellaBlack> good point alex [16:33] <cloudpic> He could find out about the hoarcrux hunt from Ginny [16:33] <JaneMarple9> But I am thinking the penseive will help more [16:33] <cloudpic> when he captures here [16:33] <HedwigJune> that's true, he was able to break the Imperius curse [16:33] <fawkes28> he try to get the prophecy out of him if he realizes harry knows it [16:33] <Shard> Its not ADD FW [16:33] <TheAzkabanDietitian> do you think Harry can keep LV out of his head but not Snape... [16:33] <Aislinn> I agree Shard, its his openness that is his strength [16:33] <cloudpic> *her [16:33] <Shard> It's the unwillingness to hide his feelings and thruth [16:33] <Evreka> He wouldn't want harry to see HIS plans [16:33] <ph63915> If Harry can throw off Imperio's can he get by without Occlum [16:33] <Aislinn> and he will learn to use it against LV [16:33] <You_wont_know_who> his love [16:34] <futureweasley> good point Shard...it's a combination, I think [16:34] <Evreka> Jo has said he won't learn Occlum [16:34] <fawkes28> voldemort may try to learn the power that he knows not from harry [16:34] <HedwigJune> when did she say that?!?!?! [16:34] <An_Eternal_Night> the Imerius curse and Occlumency are very different [16:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> evreka is right [16:34] <Alexk> maybe lv and Harry will have a battle of the minds in book 7 [16:34] <You_wont_know_who> Harry must fight with other weapon than his adversary [16:34] <Evreka> In an interview [16:34] <Theoriser> Does Voldemort have any other kinds of plans that include Harry (other than killing him) that he wants to implement in the next book? [16:34] <futureweasley> he could hide them with concentration and practice, but is unwilling to take the time to learn it [16:34] <Shard> I think that is the right thing AlexK [16:34] <HedwigJune> *starts to hyperventilate* [16:35] <MafaldaWeasley> i think it's because he doesn't have to. Look, the link on their minds work both ways.. but none of them was aware of it. [16:35] <JaneMarple9> not sure [16:35] <mollywobbles23> I don't think so [16:35] <Shard> That Harry needs to lave his mind open for that Mental/sprirtual battle [16:35] <HedwigJune> stab him with his wand! [16:35] <Evreka> I think he wants to kill him personally [16:35] <fawkes28> i think his main goal is to kill him [16:35] <TheAzkabanDietitian> lol hedwig [16:35] <You_wont_know_who> he might want Harry to come over to his side, the Dark Side [16:35] <HedwigJune> since they can't duel..... [16:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Its a tough question, and one that I wonder about [16:35] <Expelliarmas> The main plan is killing him, but if he could make an example out of him [16:35] <JaneMarple9> his main goal is to kill harry yes [16:35] <Shard> I think LV is setting up a plan to lure Harry into another trap [16:35] <CarpeDiem> If he could somehow use Harry on his side...no that's WAY too Star Wars smile [16:35] <Evreka> lol [16:35] <Pleshette> Yes expel, I agree [16:35] <fawkes28> however, if he comes up with another plan to keep him alive. it may be voldemort's downfall [16:35] <You_wont_know_who> lol [16:35] <Shard> So with FW I do agree someone cluse will be used to implent Harry into the trap, I just dont t5hink it will be Ron or Ginny [16:35] <cloudpic> Unless it'd be somehow to use Harry to intimidate all other wizards... sort of I've Got Him... now you all must cower in fear [16:35] <Aislinn> I think that's exactly right, expie - he needs Harry as an example [16:35] <mollywobbles23> Darth Potter [16:36] <Aislinn> its important to him for a show of power [16:36] <HedwigJune> eewwww [16:36] <Pleshette> bye everyone [16:36] <JaneMarple9> smile [16:36] <Gryffinclaw> bye [16:36] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [16:36] <HedwigJune> bye!!! [16:36] <cloudpic> Voldie does often stall too long whilst showing off. [16:36] <mollywobbles23> bye! [16:36] <futureweasley> bye Pleshette [16:36] <CedrellaBlack> byebyee! [16:36] <fawkes28> right that would sacre the death eaters so they wouldnt try anything [16:36] <Aislinn> bye pleshette [16:36] <Shard> Thank got there will never be a Darth Potter [16:36] <You_wont_know_who> bye [16:36] <mollywobbles23> lag, eww [16:36] <MafaldaWeasley> I bye [16:36] <Alexk> harry challenges lv's powers, he's the only one who can, so lv needs to kill him, so that he can totally take over [16:36] <HedwigJune> bye, mafalda [16:36] <TheAzkabanDietitian> will "hermione's punishment" be imperius? [16:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he might want to show everyone that he can dominate Harry before he kills hm [16:36] <MafaldaWeasley> noo i'm staying hehehe [16:36] <Expelliarmas> it would also demoralize the wizarding community--he doesn't just kill him, he makes an example out of him [16:36] <Evreka> Maybe Sooner [16:36] <Shard> Thats what he tried to do in the Graveyard Sooner [16:36] <You_wont_know_who> Sooner - good point [16:36] <HedwigJune> you just said....nevermind [16:36] <Gryffinclaw> Hermione's Punishment?? [16:36] <Shard> and he will fail again adn again [16:36] <CarpeDiem> If LV could kill the only person who was able to defeat him...that would truly send a strong message to everyone. [16:37] <HedwigJune> *gasp* [16:37] <cloudpic> Good point Expie [16:37] <futureweasley> Shard: who better to get to Harry than the Weasleys? It's game time, do or die time...why not pull out the big plays? [16:37] <Evreka> I'm sure he'd love to - but will he dare, taking their history into account [16:37] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:37] <Theoriser> What in your opinions, are Voldemorts plans/goals concerning the Ministry of Magic? [16:37] <mollywobbles23> Priori Incantatum happens again, except things come out of Harry's wand and overpower Voldy or give Harry strength. (patronus, ect...) *shrugs* thinking outside the box [16:37] <HedwigJune> squash it [16:37] <Shard> FW: Definatly but I think it would be overused to kidnap either Ginny or Ron who havbe both already been kidnapped once already [16:37] <JaneMarple9> he wants to be the head of it [16:37] <futureweasley> burn it to the ground [16:37] <CedrellaBlack> push as many people through the veil as possible [16:37] <cloudpic> Charlie will be imperioed. Ginny will try to rescue him. Harry will try to resuce Ginny. [16:37] <Val_Halla> To take it over - he already demainded the MoM job [16:37] <Gryffinclaw> Azkabandiet - What about Hermiones Punishment? [16:37] <Val_Halla> demanded [16:37] <You_wont_know_who> be the minister of magic himself [16:38] <HedwigJune> turn it into his evil overlord mansion [16:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Perhaps Prior will happen again in order for Harry to figure out a horcrux(es).... [16:38] <CarpeDiem> Yep, I think if you can get rid of the ruling party he can certainly take contrl of the wizarding world [16:38] <futureweasley> when was Ron kidnapped by LV? [16:38] <Expelliarmas> LV wants access to everything in it, he won't burn it into the groun, he wants te info [16:38] <MafaldaWeasley> i think he wants to use it to keep an eye on harry's movements [16:38] <Shard> lol [16:38] <Aislinn> gryff - this question [16:38] <Evreka> He wants to overthrow it in exchange it with the Dictator Voldemort [16:38] <futureweasley> am I a total Dolt? [16:38] <HedwigJune> *gasp* what if he gains control of the veil?!?!?! [16:38] <Shard> Ron was used in the 2nd task, Harry believed Ron in true danger, so did Percy apparently [16:38] <Gryffinclaw> He will try to wreck havoc in the magical world but he won't take over [16:38] <HedwigJune> and just lines people up.... [16:38] <CedrellaBlack> exactly hj [16:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> "Hermione's Punishment" is an editorial on MN... I will get the link [16:38] <cloudpic> He's too afraid of death [16:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> if needed [16:38] <fawkes28> i think he may want to have the DoM under his control because he know they study a lot of important things there [16:38] <Gryffinclaw> thanks [16:38] <mollywobbles23> oh, I've read that dietitian [16:38] <HedwigJune> and shove them through by the millions? [16:38] <Shard> So Ron has been a hostage as well as Ginny [16:38] <MafaldaWeasley> i think he doesn't want to destroy the ministry, but to control it. to use the secrets the ministry works on [16:38] <Gryffinclaw> Azkaban is it in the north tower? [16:38] <Alexk> They'll change the name of the MoM to Voldemortland [16:38] <An_Eternal_Night> good point fawkes [16:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> let me check [16:38] <Gryffinclaw> I've read it if it is [16:39] <Shard> But then again LV is the predictable Evil Overlord isn't he? [16:39] *** JillianS642 has quit [Bye] [16:39] <HedwigJune> teehee "Voldyland" [16:39] <You_wont_know_who> he will be the one to dismantle the whole ministry of magic (Voldemort) [16:39] <Expelliarmas> let's try and stay on topic, guys and gals [16:39] * CedrellaBlack shudders at the idea of voldyland lolo [16:39] <HedwigJune> Percy: *dies in Ministry* [16:39] <JaneMarple9> he'd b able to listen to all the prophecy's he wants [16:39] <TheAzkabanDietitian> yes, it's the North Tower.. #43 [16:39] <fawkes28> it is a powerful place and voldemort enjoys power why wouldn't he want the DoM and of course the rest of the MoM? [16:39] <Gryffinclaw> yeah thx [16:40] <Aislinn> TAD - enough of the off topic!! [16:40] <CedrellaBlack> yes but i dont think he cares aboput other peples prophecies only ones that concern him [16:40] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:40] <HedwigJune> no, we're saying Voldy would want the ministry so he can get into Level Nine himself [16:40] <Val_Halla> I think LV will simply tranform the Mom so the it is still "democratic" on the surface [16:40] <fawkes28> but there are more than prophecies there [16:40] <JaneMarple9> no, Percy will return to the good side I think [16:40] <JaneMarple9> he'll return to the burrow [16:40] <Val_Halla> but is really completely controlled by him [16:41] <CarpeDiem> Any sort of blow to the MoM would be very benificial because of its place in the wizarding world. I think the raid on the DoM was bad enough to get a minister removed. [16:41] <Expelliarmas> LV has always craved information, he seeks it out and uses it; the MOM is full of usefu info; maybe not the cauldron bottom report, but there's plenty of stuff there, especially in the Dept. of Mysteries. [16:41] <You_wont_know_who> the ministry will serve Voldemort's purposes that's alll [16:41] <Alexk> I think he will take over the ministry, but there will be many people who are not on his side, and Harry will create some kind of organization for the good side [16:41] <Gryffinclaw> Maybe there has been more than 1 propecy regarding LV [16:41] *** JaneMarple9 has quit [Bye] [16:41] <Theoriser> Is there some relic (GG's sword or the sorting hat or something else) at Hogwarts that Voldemort wants or needs? [16:41] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think so [16:41] *** Riddle2 has quit [Bye] [16:41] <Gryffinclaw> There is a Horcrux at hogwarts [16:41] <Gryffinclaw> i think [16:41] <HedwigJune> his shield for Special Services [16:41] <An_Eternal_Night> I think there is a horcrux there [16:41] <MafaldaWeasley> I think there's something hidding in there [16:42] <You_wont_know_who> yes , I suppose there are some relics [16:42] <Val_Halla> I think there may be [16:42] <cloudpic> That he still wants? Like another trophy? [16:42] <CedrellaBlack> there is a horcrux there but not GG's [16:42] <MafaldaWeasley> I agree gryffinclaw [16:42] <fawkes28> i think he would want things that belonged to salzaar [16:42] * mollywobbles23 's head huts [16:42] *** JaneMarple9 has joined #lounge [16:42] <mollywobbles23> hurts* [16:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> there is the theory that a Gryffindor ruby is a horcrux... but otherwise I have no inkling of one [16:42] <futureweasley> someone tried to tell me once that Hogwarts itself was a Horcrux [16:42] <cloudpic> He'd not need the hoarcruxes... they're hidden, no? [16:42] <HedwigJune> one of the golden spoons in the great hall is a Horcrux! [16:42] <JaneMarple9> the revolving door is in fine form today! [16:42] <An_Eternal_Night> I'm interested in what else is down in the Chamber of Secrets [16:42] <Gryffinclaw> Hogwarts? a Horcrux? how? [16:42] <CedrellaBlack> oh boy [16:42] <futureweasley> I thought that was ridiculous [16:42] <HedwigJune> the whole thing? [16:42] <CedrellaBlack> me too aen! [16:42] <Gryffinclaw> lol [16:43] <futureweasley> the whole thing [16:43] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:43] <CedrellaBlack> ridikulus [16:43] <Expelliarmas> I think he planted a horcrux in Hogwarts during his DADA job interview [16:43] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:43] <cloudpic> Nah. [16:43] <JaneMarple9> I think the chamber of secrets is filled in now [16:43] <HedwigJune> there's gotta be size limitations on that spell [16:43] <CarpeDiem> I think Hogwarts is important because of the information and people there...not necessarily anything Horcrux specific [16:43] <You_wont_know_who> no, not a Horcrux but something with a great value for Voldemort [16:43] <Expelliarmas> plus thee is the Chamber of Secrets [16:43] <fawkes28> i think he would want the whole of hogwarts under his control as well as the relics in itbecause it is the place that he has been closest too [16:43] <ph63915> if Salazar had a chamber do you think somewhere in Hogwarts Godric had a hideout [16:43] <MafaldaWeasley> i don't think hgwarts is an horcrux, but it conceals a secret, and i think, a horcrux [16:43] <CedrellaBlack> but a horcrux is not a portkey [16:43] <Gryffinclaw> Or he used the Vanishing Cabinet whilst working in B+B [16:43] <Theoriser> Could he want Hogwarts, because it would be his trophy after taking control of the wizarding world? [16:43] <Gryffinclaw> It's possible [16:43] <An_Eternal_Night> that's possible [16:43] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [16:43] <CedrellaBlack> yesi think so [16:43] <mollywobbles23> possibly [16:43] <Shard> Yes he will go after Hogwarts [16:43] <HedwigJune> no, bcause Godric wasn't planning to splinter off from the school [16:43] <cloudpic> Could be a hoarcrux in Hogwarts... but the whole building? Dumbledore would have "sensed" it [16:43] <You_wont_know_who> yes, he felt at Hogwarts at home [16:43] <JaneMarple9> godric might had hidden something at Godrics hollow? [16:43] <MafaldaWeasley> no, i don't think so [16:43] <Expelliarmas> a crowning jewel [16:44] <CedrellaBlack> also becasue its the closest thing to home that voldy has [16:44] <Val_Halla> Yes, it would make his ictory over DD complete in his eyes [16:44] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [16:44] <Gryffinclaw> The icing on the cake [16:44] <CedrellaBlack> wb sooner [16:44] <fawkes28> yes he would want to make it his home [16:44] <cloudpic> That makes sense... It's His home [16:44] <Shard> I think Godric himself is buried in Godrics Hollow [16:44] <Val_Halla> Victory, that is [16:44] <CarpeDiem> Good question. Yes, that and/or an atack on the Ministry itself would have a strong blow agians the moale of the wizardin community [16:44] <JaneMarple9> He wants contol of Hogwarts so he can recruit more deatheaters [16:44] <mollywobbles23> ooh...cake. Sorry...where were we? [16:44] <An_Eternal_Night> good idea Shard! [16:44] <CedrellaBlack> Could he want Hogwarts, because it would be his trophy after taking control of the wizarding world? [16:44] <fawkes28> i think taking hogwarts would make him feel complete - as complete as he could be [16:44] <You_wont_know_who> or school young death eaters as well [16:44] <CedrellaBlack> thats the question molly [16:44] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah if Hogwarts isn't tsken over new order members and Aurors can come through [16:44] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Could Salazar be buried in the CoS.... a horcrux corpse [16:45] <JaneMarple9> biggrin chocolate has that reaction to me Molly! [16:45] * mollywobbles23 is now craving cake and stressing about Hogwarts [16:45] <HedwigJune> you're right, He wouldn't squash it, he "loves* it too much [16:45] <cloudpic> Strike fear into the hearts of all the Wizarding World.... the children aren't safe! [16:45] <Val_Halla> LV may also still want to carry on Salazar's "noble work" [16:45] <futureweasley> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next P3 chat, here:http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showtopic=34360&st=10&#entry976659 [16:45] <Gryffinclaw> Maybe GG's tombstone is a Horcrux [16:45] <HedwigJune> after a thousand years? [16:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i like that gryffinclaw [16:45] <CedrellaBlack> i dont think so [16:45] *** You_wont_know_who left #lounge [] [16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> no way [16:45] <mollywobbles23> I think he'll try to take over Hoggy Hoggy Hogwarts, but I don't think he'll succeed. [16:45] <CedrellaBlack> becasue it doesnt have any special meaning to GG [16:45] <Expelliarmas> it's a place of great magic, LV respects magic too much to see Hogwarts destroyed [16:45] <HedwigJune> you think it still exists? [16:46] <JaneMarple9> I still think there's a horcrux...th most important one...in Hogwarts somewhere [16:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that LV sees Hogwarts as the biggest trophy of all [16:46] <CedrellaBlack> i hope he doesnt suceed [16:46] <HedwigJune> oh, that's right, we're wizards! [16:46] <MafaldaWeasley> i agree jane [16:46] <fawkes28> true, expel [16:46] <Theoriser> Could the founders have built some kind of extraordinary power into the mere stone walls of the castle, a power LV wants to use? [16:46] <Gryffinclaw> Lol Hedwig [16:46] <HedwigJune> hmmm....sure [16:46] <Gryffinclaw> Thats very possible T [16:46] * mollywobbles23 is upset at the time of month b/c she is about to cry at the thought of a hypothetical Hogwarts takeover. Craves more cake. [16:46] <Val_Halla> I don't think so [16:46] *** Shard has quit [Bye] [16:46] <An_Eternal_Night> It would be his biggest trophy, becasue it's the only place that he never dared to take over before [16:46] <JaneMarple9> something powerful protects Hogwarts [16:46] <fawkes28> if they did i would think it would be a good power like love one that voldemort would not want [16:46] <cloudpic> No hints of this in any book, though [16:46] * TheAzkabanDietitian hugs molly [16:46] <Expelliarmas> if the moving staircases are any indication, Hogwarts is covered and seeped in magic [16:46] * Gryffinclaw laughs at mollywobbles dispair [16:46] <HedwigJune> *comforts mollywobbles* [16:46] <JaneMarple9> and not only Dumbledore either [16:46] <ph63915> LV may want something from the restricted section [16:47] <CedrellaBlack> not anything in the canon that would suggest that [16:47] <MafaldaWeasley> i think there might be source of knowledge there.. more than power itself.. and for LV, well, knowledge can be changed into power [16:47] <futureweasley> forgive me for saying so, but aren't all the horcruxes important? [16:47] <mollywobbles23> hmm..that's intersting, theoriser [16:47] <cloudpic> Hogwarts is like a character! [16:47] * CedrellaBlack hugs molly and asks for some cake [16:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I thin that there is special magic all in the school [16:47] <Gryffinclaw> I would agree with that FW [16:47] <HedwigJune> what, future? [16:47] <CedrellaBlack> yes future [16:47] <Theoriser> dumbledore said he wanted to "tap into" the magic at hogwarts [16:47] <HedwigJune> like a tree.....? [16:47] <cloudpic> ? [16:47] <Gryffinclaw> He did didn't he [16:47] <CedrellaBlack> but he has so many its not a great loss when he loses it [16:47] <cloudpic> When? [16:47] * mollywobbles23 is thankful for support. [16:48] <futureweasley> there isn't really a horcrux that is more important than any other [16:48] <mollywobbles23> He did? [16:48] <JaneMarple9> there might be a major horcrux...the first Voldemort made...which is the most magical? [16:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> can you suck magic out of objects... magically? [16:48] <fawkes28> right, future [16:48] <mollywobbles23> gnarly [16:48] <CedrellaBlack> well i would say the diary was the most important and nagini [16:48] <HedwigJune> the diary, right? [16:48] <HedwigJune> or the ring? [16:48] <CedrellaBlack> becuse the diary brough the CoC back [16:48] <Gryffinclaw> Nagini is maybe in need of more looking after than the others [16:48] <futureweasley> no... [16:48] <Alexk> I don't know if he'll be able to take over hogwarts, because I think that DD being the all powerful and smart genius that he is, probably predicted ahead of time that something might happen to him, and there is extraorinarily powerful amount of defenses protecting hogwarts [16:48] <HedwigJune> "Which came first, the diary or the ring?" [16:48] <CedrellaBlack> and nagini broght him back [16:48] <cloudpic> I don't think Nagini is a hoarcrux [16:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> all horcruxes are created equally [16:48] <Gryffinclaw> ring [16:48] <JaneMarple9> or something we don't know of yet [16:48] <mollywobbles23> lol [16:48] <CedrellaBlack> well if nagini is a horcrux [16:48] <MafaldaWeasley> I agree cloudpic [16:49] <futureweasley> thanks you TAD, exactly my point [16:49] <JaneMarple9> the diary i think [16:49] <Expelliarmas> does it matter in what order the horcruxes were created? [16:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> the.... ring [16:49] <HedwigJune> or a red herring... [16:49] <Alexk> can live things be horcruxes [16:49] <HedwigJune> that's what DD said [16:49] * mollywobbles23 eats red herring for breakfast [16:49] <CedrellaBlack> no i dont tink so expie [16:49] <cloudpic> Yes... but it's not a good idea for live things. [16:49] <MafaldaWeasley> yes alexk [16:49] <HedwigJune> lololol [16:49] <Gryffinclaw> lol molly [16:49] <CedrellaBlack> lol molly [16:49] <JaneMarple9> I think Nagina is connected with the snake in book one [16:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> LV eats plot bunnies [16:49] <fawkes28> isn't the question about the founders? [16:49] <CedrellaBlack> what snake? [16:49] <HedwigJune> no, that's been ruled out [16:49] <Evreka> Nagina? [16:49] <Gryffinclaw> I don't think the SNakes are connected [16:50] <JaneMarple9> the boa constrictor [16:50] <Theoriser> Voldemort wants to have an impact on how wizarding society functions. He wants to reserve himself a place in history. Do you think that he want to finish Slytherin's noble work by ridding the school of mudbloods? [16:50] <CedrellaBlack> ohh [16:50] <Evreka> No way [16:50] <Gryffinclaw> What type of Snake is Nagini [16:50] <CedrellaBlack> nahh i dont think there connected [16:50] <Gryffinclaw> No [16:50] <mollywobbles23> with cake.... They're two different types of snakes [16:50] <JaneMarple9> evil smile [16:50] <HedwigJune> boa constrictors are not venemous, Nagini was [16:50] <mollywobbles23> a poisonous one [16:50] <Expelliarmas> let's remember to stay on topic, folks [16:50] <MafaldaWeasley> no, they are diferent types of snake jane [16:50] <futureweasley> yes Fawkes, it is [16:50] <CedrellaBlack> it never says but nagini is poisonnous [16:50] <cloudpic> It's a start. [16:50] <Val_Halla> Yes, but not as his main goal [16:50] <Evreka> Not a basilisk and not a boa constrictor [16:50] <An_Eternal_Night> I think that's on his list [16:50] <SoonerGryffindor> guys! We are not here to discuss types of Snakes-- we are here to discuss LV's plans [16:50] <Expelliarmas> we are not currently discussing snakes, boas or otherwise [16:50] <HedwigJune> no, not poisonous...venemous. there's a difference [16:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think he wants to continue Salazar's work [16:50] <Val_Halla> LV wants his place in history to be that he is immortal [16:50] <Evreka> sorry... sad [16:50] <HedwigJune> sorry, expel [16:50] <JaneMarple9> he wants to rid the school of mudbloods [16:51] <cloudpic> Voldie sees himself as the heir of Syltherin... so finish his work is part of his destiny, no? [16:51] <fawkes28> i think he may just want to make sure that mudbloods are not admitted into the school anymore [16:51] <MafaldaWeasley> They snake connection is with voldermot soul and the pure essence of slytherin's evil. that's why he looks like a snake [16:51] <Gryffinclaw> He does want to get rid of muggle-borns but he won't succed [16:51] <cloudpic> And then take it a step further, likely. [16:51] <JaneMarple9> that is his greatest aim [16:51] <CedrellaBlack> Well i dont think Voldemort is leaving a big impression on the wizarding world's history becuase if people fear saying his name, it will get to the point where epople forget who he is completely [16:51] <Evreka> I think he said in COS that he wasn't interested in that any more [16:51] <HedwigJune> yeah, Cedrella [16:51] <Gryffinclaw> that story-line was put into play in CoS [16:51] <HedwigJune> !! [16:51] <JaneMarple9> yes thats right Ced [16:51] <Alexk> they'll write it as Lord ?????????? [16:51] <CedrellaBlack> so basically do not fear the name! [16:51] <cloudpic> No... great fears are remembered... unspoken names are still in heads [16:51] <CedrellaBlack> ahahaa lol alex [16:51] <HedwigJune> lolol [16:52] <JaneMarple9> someday people will forget who Lord Voldemort is [16:52] <fawkes28> i think one of his goals to to make sure that mudbloods are no longer educated [16:52] <CedrellaBlack> ir they could call him lord flight from death [16:52] <Expelliarmas> Oh, he's leaving a large, negative impression. [16:52] <CedrellaBlack> or* [16:52] <HedwigJune> heehee [16:52] <Evreka> Perhaps [16:52] <mollywobbles23> Yes, if we walked into the Cheers bar, people'd be like: "Who's that?" [16:52] <CedrellaBlack> yes expel [16:52] <TheAzkabanDietitian> omg molly [16:52] <Evreka> but if he continues like before noone is [16:52] <Theoriser> What do you think are Voldemort's most evil, grisly plans? [16:52] <cloudpic> Dark Lords expect to write the history [16:52] <HedwigJune> dancing [16:52] <JaneMarple9> wheres the Cheers bar? smile [16:52] <CedrellaBlack> kill harry [16:52] <TheAzkabanDietitian> to kill harry [16:52] * SoonerGryffindor is scared to find out [16:53] <Expelliarmas> murder [16:53] <Evreka> kill Harry [16:53] <JaneMarple9> to kill harry [16:53] <cloudpic> Kill Harry slowly [16:53] * CedrellaBlack shudders at the thoght [16:53] <fawkes28> kill harry and murder as many other people as he can [16:53] <Evreka> and live forever [16:53] <HedwigJune> or singing a filk [16:53] <MafaldaWeasley> To live forever [16:53] <Val_Halla> To makes slaves of all Muggles and Mudbloods [16:53] <Gryffinclaw> He will attempt to kill Harry, use his army on as many people as possible [16:53] <ph63915> mass use of the veil [16:53] <Aislinn> to take over and dominate the wizarding community [16:53] <Expelliarmas> establish a new world order based on murder, fear, and retribution [16:53] <fawkes28> and then i think he wants to take over hogwarts but not destroy it [16:53] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ooh good one ph [16:53] <Gryffinclaw> Yeah live forever [16:53] <JaneMarple9> slowly, and to cause as much pain to Harry as he can before he kills him [16:53] <An_Eternal_Night> using werewolves like Fenrir to tu This post has been edited by Aislinn: Oct 17 2006, 10:14 PM |
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