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Transcript For WWW Chat - Oct. 18, 2006, Wizarding Jobs
Poet
post Oct 18 2006, 09:13 PM
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Today's Text Chat Moderators were:
futureweasley, Poet, Aislinn, SoonerGryffindor, Expelliarmas

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[18:00] <Poet> Hi nympheart
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[18:00] <nympheart> hi
[18:00] <futureweasley> hi nympheart
[18:00] <futureweasley> hi harryfreak
[18:00] <harryfreak359> hi guys!
[18:00] <Aislinn> hi folks smile
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[18:01] <Poet> hi harryfreak359
[18:01] <futureweasley> hi Fawkes
[18:01] <harryfreak359> smile
[18:01] <nympheart> greetings
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[18:01] <futureweasley> !!
[18:01] <fawkes28> hi guys! smile
[18:01] <Poet> howdy fawkes28
[18:01] <Aislinn> hello fawkes
[18:01] * fawkes28 does an early group hug
[18:01] * Poet wonders if
[18:01] <Poet> beat me to it
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[18:01] <fawkes28> lol
[18:01] <fawkes28> hi, hf!
[18:02] <harryfreak359> hi fawkes!
[18:02] <Poet> I was going to say "I wonder if it's too early for group hugs"
[18:02] <futureweasley> I'm so happy to see my friends today!!
[18:02] <harryfreak359> my computer is being weird
[18:02] <fawkes28> hehe great minds think alike
[18:02] <Poet> aw sorry to hear that
[18:02] <harryfreak359> I am very happy today!
[18:02] <futureweasley> me too!
[18:02] <fawkes28> last week's chat on harry potter was so good i really enjoyd it smile
[18:02] <Poet> great
[18:02] <nympheart> i'm in a weird mood today
[18:03] <Aislinn> it was fun, wasn't it?
[18:03] <futureweasley> the HP chat last week kicked! It just rocked
[18:03] <fawkes28> siriusly
[18:03] <harryfreak359> I just found out that the camping trip that was planned on the weekend of the lounge wide event has been cancelled, meaning that I'll be able to be here! grin
[18:03] <futureweasley> siriusly
[18:03] <futureweasley> lol
[18:03] <nympheart> i was doing a senior paper and couldn't chat...
[18:03] <Aislinn> I felt like we could have talked about him for another chat even
[18:03] <nympheart> what was it on?
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[18:03] <futureweasley> Harry Potter
[18:03] <fawkes28> it was a nice group of us too
[18:03] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree, the Harry Potter chat was great!
[18:03] <nympheart> now i'm depressed
[18:03] <Alexk> hi
[18:04] <Aislinn> we'll have a great one tonight too nymph smile
[18:04] <Aislinn> hi alex
[18:04] <harryfreak359> I am depressed that I missed that last P3 chat sad
[18:04] <futureweasley> it's Wizarding Jobs!
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[18:04] <futureweasley> harryfreak should be happy about that!!
[18:04] <fawkes28> we missed you, hf!
[18:04] <futureweasley> hi guys!
[18:04] <Aislinn> hi seven!
[18:04] <fawkes28> lol
[18:04] <SevenofNine> Greetings!
[18:04] <harryfreak359> it was the topic that I really wanted to disucuss too
[18:05] <harryfreak359> hahah...I am Future!
[18:05] <nympheart> I missed the last like, 3 P3s
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[18:05] <nympheart> I keep having to work in the afternoon
[18:05] <harryfreak359> hi MrMcG!
[18:05] <futureweasley> hi MrMcG!!
[18:05] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, y'all!
[18:05] <fawkes28> hi mr.mcg!
[18:05] <nympheart> hi
[18:05] * futureweasley bear hugs MrMcGonagall
[18:05] <Poet> Hi MrMcGonagall , hi SevenofNine
[18:05] <SevenofNine> Hey!
[18:05] <harryfreak359> just think a few more days until the reading groups!!! Whoo!
[18:05] <Aislinn> hey Mr M
[18:05] <fawkes28> we are all in a hugging mood today
[18:05] <futureweasley> RG's are right around the corner
[18:06] <harryfreak359> lol, aren't we always?
[18:06] <fawkes28> i know i miss them!
[18:06] <futureweasley> woo hoo!
[18:06] <Aislinn> wheee!
[18:06] <futureweasley> I miss the kitchen SO bad!!
[18:06] <MrMcGonagall> Yay! Hugs! I can't wait for the reading groups to start.
[18:06] <fawkes28> lol that's a new one
[18:06] <harryfreak359> me too!
[18:06] <fawkes28> i know i wonder what our new room is
[18:06] <futureweasley> maybe we can compromise on woot hoo?
[18:06] <Aislinn> the common room, you mean?
[18:06] * harryfreak359 is very excited w00t2
[18:06] <MrMcGonagall> Kimmy hinted at some exciting new changes in Monday's PC chat.
[18:06] <Aislinn> like the kitchen?
[18:06] <fawkes28> yes
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[18:06] <Aislinn> hi professor
[18:07] <fawkes28> no no my dear that is just weird
[18:07] <ProfessorJackson> hi, everyone!
[18:07] <harryfreak359> yeah!
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[18:07] <futureweasley> hi Ced
[18:07] <Aislinn> hi ced
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[18:07] <CedrellaBlack> hello everyone!
[18:07] <fawkes28> i'll let you say one since we are all excited about the RG but only one future
[18:07] <CedrellaBlack> hi hf!
[18:07] <fawkes28> hi ced
[18:07] <Aislinn> you mean WOOT!!!
[18:07] <CedrellaBlack> i havent seen you on CoC in a longg time!
[18:07] <Aislinn> :D
[18:07] <MrMcGonagall> Fawkes, you know future won't be able to contain herself.
[18:07] <futureweasley> ok, WOOT for RG's sorting this Saturday!
[18:07] <fawkes28> no aislinn i didn't say you, did i??
[18:07] <Aislinn> :lol:
[18:08] <CedrellaBlack> SORTING! woot!
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[18:08] <Poet> Oh? Sorry I missed the first hour of the PC chat then, what did Kimmy say MrMcGonagall ?
[18:08] <Aislinn> hehehehehe
[18:08] * CedrellaBlack is very excited!
[18:08] <fawkes28> you are terrible smile
[18:08] <MrMcGonagall> Just that there were some changes and reorganization of the reading groups this time around. Good changes.
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[18:08] <MrMcGonagall> new names for rooms, etc.
[18:08] <ProfessorJackson> what changes?
[18:08] <harryfreak359> testing....
[18:08] <futureweasley> you're here
[18:08] <fawkes28> i see you
[18:08] <Poet> cool
[18:08] <harryfreak359> yeah...silly computers
[18:09] <harryfreak359> I have a bad lag though...
[18:09] <nympheart> silly is a mild word
[18:09] <CedrellaBlack> lol
[18:09] <CedrellaBlack> me too
[18:09] <CedrellaBlack> i have a super badish lagish
[18:09] <Poet> aw
[18:09] <CedrellaBlack> hf i havent seen you on CoC in a long time =[
[18:09] <Poet> Good thing we haven't started - always time to quit and re-enter
[18:09] <nympheart> my computer is actually being good today
[18:09] <CedrellaBlack> luckyy!
[18:09] <MrMcGonagall> I've only had a bad lag problem once, but it is definitely a bummer when it happens.
[18:10] <CedrellaBlack> it usually happens to me once a chat
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[18:10] <fawkes28> is everyone getting to the lounge at 9:00 am on saturday??
[18:10] <Aislinn> mine too, nymph, but I'm afraid I'm going to jinx it by saying so
[18:10] <futureweasley> I'll be here
[18:10] <nympheart> lol
[18:10] <fawkes28> hi, sooner!
[18:10] <harryfreak359> I know I have been gone from the CoC
[18:10] <nympheart> I can't chat sat either!
[18:10] <harryfreak359> hi Sooner!
[18:10] <nympheart> ahhh
[18:10] <fawkes28> me too
[18:10] <MrMcGonagall> I hope to be in for at least part of the activities Saturday.
[18:10] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Sooner!
[18:10] <harryfreak359> I am probably not getting up that early saturday
[18:10] <Poet> For the sorting?
[18:11] <Poet> Getting up early for the sorting?
[18:11] <fawkes28> yup
[18:11] <Poet> cool
[18:11] <Aislinn> 9 is early?
[18:11] <Poet> I hadn't thought of that
[18:11] <CedrellaBlack> i pprobably shouldnt be here today becasue i have a teston hte roman empire tommorow but i Dont feel like studying and i love CB too much lol
[18:11] <harryfreak359> it is 6 my time
[18:11] <fawkes28> well it's only 9 am for me usually i'm teaching 2nd period by then
[18:11] <nympheart> I'm supposed to be at a lecture and taking a test at the same time sat morning
[18:11] <Aislinn> ah well yes, that is early
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[18:11] <futureweasley> hi tanaqui
[18:11] <CedrellaBlack> hola sooner!
[18:11] <futureweasley> wb sooner!
[18:11] <SoonerGryffindor> whew
[18:11] <CedrellaBlack> hey tanaqui
[18:11] <harryfreak359> I'll probably be on a couple hours late
[18:11] <Aislinn> hi tanaqui
[18:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I didnt think Snuffles would let me in for a moment there
[18:12] <SoonerGryffindor> HI everyone
[18:12] <Tanaqui> hello all
[18:12] <fawkes28> at least we've had the booth these two week to bring us together smile
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[18:12] <MrMcGonagall> Bad, bad Snuffles!
[18:12] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat
[18:12] <Poet> Hi SoonerGryffindor
[18:12] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat
[18:12] * Poet passes around yummy treats for everyone
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[18:12] <nympheart> yum!
[18:12] <fawkes28> wow snuffles is very hungry tonight
[18:12] <futureweasley> yay for treats!
[18:13] <SoonerGryffindor> where are the Sooner treats?
[18:13] * harryfreak359 is ready to murder her computer
[18:13] <futureweasley> snuffles is greedy
[18:13] <Aislinn> lol
[18:13] * Poet pulls out her wand and transfigures some Sooner treats
[18:13] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry hf
[18:13] <fawkes28> you have to go out to wootland and get them, sooner
[18:13] <Aislinn> oh dear, I must have sent the poltergeist back to you, harryfreak
[18:13] <fawkes28> lol
[18:13] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks Poet smile
[18:13] <harryfreak359> lol
[18:13] <Poet> I love wootland
[18:13] <ProfessorJackson> May I ask a question? Do we have to be "present" to be sorted on Saturday?
[18:13] <harryfreak359> thanks Aislinn
[18:13] * MrMcGonagall tosses Sooner treats in the shape of miniature OSU Cowboys.
[18:13] <futureweasley> you are naughty fawkes
[18:13] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Professor
[18:13] <fawkes28> hehe you guys are a bad influence
[18:13] <futureweasley> don't worry ProfJackson, they won't close for enrollment until they are full
[18:14] <SoonerGryffindor> but if you cant be here on Saturday, dont sweat it
[18:14] <CedrellaBlack> sooner have you gotten us our invisibility cloaks yet?
[18:14] <SoonerGryffindor> the rooms dont fill up on the first day
[18:14] <Poet> So you can still sign-up on Sunday
[18:14] <ProfessorJackson> Is that one of the changes? Last time I was able to sort later...
[18:14] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry Ced, no cloaks
[18:14] <MrMcGonagall> The first time I ever enrolled in a group, it was on a Sunday afternoon
[18:14] <Aislinn> you can sort later professor
[18:14] <Poet> They keep sorting until the groups are full
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[18:14] <ProfessorJackson> Okay...got it. I must always be late...
[18:14] <Aislinn> hey expie, wb seven
[18:14] <harryfreak359> hi expe!
[18:14] <fawkes28> wb, seven and hi expel
[18:15] <SevenofNine> Thanks
[18:15] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Expie and 7of9
[18:15] <nympheart> now my computer's being bad
[18:15] <Poet> We are about to start our discussion. During the announcements you won't be able to type, but just hang tight, you’ll be able to type again soon. Take a look at your chat window. On the right are names of people in the chat, with the Moderators listed first.
[18:15] <Poet> Above your chat window is a button labeled "#lounge." If a new button appears next to it labeled with one of the Moderators names on it, click on it and read what that Mod needs to tell you. You won’t be able to reply to the Mod in that window.
[18:15] <Poet> After reading, click back on the "#lounge" button and type something in the regular chat like, “Poet, I got it.” If you need to communicate privately with a Mod during the chat, send us a PM on the Lounge, then let us know you've sent it. The rules of the Lounge also apply to the Corner Booth. Read them here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules
[18:15] <Poet> During the chat, keep in mind the overall topic as well as each question that is asked. As much as possible stick to each subject at hand, and try to use complete, standard English words. Okay, moving on to the topic for the chat!
[18:15] <futureweasley> The wizarding community, somewhat like the Muggle community, has its own economy and with it employment. Jobs come in various categories: education, government, business, medicine the arts, athletics, etc.
[18:16] <futureweasley> Within the education sector, we see the staff at Hogwarts teaching subjects such as Arithmancy, DADA, Care of Magical Creatures, Herbology, Potions, Transfiguration, Divination, etc. There’s also an administrative side such as Headmaster and Deputy Headmistress. We also have medical care from Madam Pomfrey. Away from Hogwarts, there are folks who study dragons, i.e., Charlie Weasley.
[18:16] <futureweasley> The MoM is the face of government--the Minister of/for Magic, various Departments for research [Mysteries], magical law enforcement (aurors, misuse of Muggle artifacts), regulation of magical creatures, the Wizengamot, etc. Various studies are conducted (i.e., cauldron bottoms!) leading to regulations and control on various items, i.e., the import of magical animals, flying carpets, etc.
[18:16] <futureweasley> Business ventures run the gamut: Fortescue’s ice cream shop, the Leaky Cauldron, Flourish & Blotts, Borgin & Burkes, Quality Quidditch Supplies, Weasleys’ Wizard Wheezes, etc. They have Gringotts which is run by Goblins, but which employs Bill Weasley as a curse breaker.
[18:16] <futureweasley> In the medical field, there are healers and administrative staff. The arts include authors (Lockhart) and musicians. While in athletics, we know for sure there is a professional Quidditch league.
[18:16] <futureweasley> So, let’s get to work and chat about Wizarding Jobs.
[18:16] <futureweasley> Why do wizards and witches even have jobs? Given that they can do magic, do they really need jobs?

[18:17] <SoonerGryffindor> well, money is stil needed
[18:17] <CedrellaBlack> They need to support heir families
[18:17] <SevenofNine> I've wondered the same thing. Why can't the Weasleys just magick the money they need.
[18:17] <nympheart> without jobs, you'd end up with anarchy
[18:17] <fawkes28> magic needs to be controlled so there needs to be people to control it
[18:17] <CedrellaBlack> plus i think a wizarding job would be fin!
[18:17] <Aislinn> yes, we've seen that with the Weasleys
[18:17] <Tanaqui> many people, when asked if they would still work if they won the lottery, say they wouldn't quit their job...or find something else to do
[18:17] <CedrellaBlack> fun*
[18:17] <MrMcGonagall> I think they do. It's the sense of fulfillment that comes from doing a job you enjoy.
[18:17] <futureweasley> for wizards not fortunate enough to be born into "privilege", jobs are essential
[18:17] <Aislinn> they still need to buy books and school supplies
[18:17] <Poet> Stronger magical spells can last a long time, but there are certain types of magic that are only temporary. Don't think you can make food out of nothing.
[18:17] * SoonerGryffindor would so totally quit her job if she won the lottery
[18:17] <fawkes28> but there needs to be laws without laws society falls apart
[18:18] <CedrellaBlack> You can tell that most poeple love their job. Granted, Arthur doesnt get paid much but he loves his job
[18:18] <futureweasley> I would want to so something I loved if I had a sick amount of money
[18:18] <fawkes28> someone needs to make the laws and enforce them
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[18:18] <Tanaqui> lol sooner
[18:18] <nympheart> we've seen molly pour sauce out of her wand
[18:18] <Aislinn> I agree tanaqui
[18:18] <SevenofNine> Good point, Poet. Imagine having the food you conjured disappear before you'd digested it!
[18:18] <MrMcGonagall> Unless you're a full-time DE like Lucius, I would think a wizard would want a job.
[18:18] <MrMcGonagall> Just to have something to do.
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[18:18] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[18:18] <Aislinn> people need to find something fulfilling to do with their lives, as Mr M pointed out
[18:18] <CedrellaBlack> It was the neverending sauce wand made by fred and george
[18:18] <futureweasley> I agree
[18:18] <SevenofNine> A contribution to society . . .
[18:18] <nympheart> lol cedrella
[18:18] <futureweasley> "idle hands are the devil's playground"
[18:19] <nympheart> no one does anything for society, seven, they do it for themselves
[18:19] <MrMcGonagall> I think it's maybe a little easier for wizards to follow their bliss than it is for Muggles, though.
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[18:19] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree MrMcG
[18:19] <CedrellaBlack> agreed
[18:19] <Tanaqui> oooo--fw makes a great point--malfoys don't work, right?
[18:19] <SevenofNine> I'm surprised there aren't more science related jobs. Genetics--researching Squibs, for example
[18:19] <FreedomStar> Hello!
[18:19] <harryfreak359> hi freedomstar
[18:19] <FreedomStar> What's the topic?
[18:19] <futureweasley> What qualifies a witch or wizard to work as a professor at Hogwarts?
[18:19] <nympheart> Lucius worked for the ministry
[18:19] <CedrellaBlack> hi freedom
[18:19] <Expelliarmas> wizarding jobs is the topic
[18:19] <Aislinn> we're talking about wizard jobs freedom
[18:20] <FreedomStar> Ok, thanks all
[18:20] <MrMcGonagall> I think a desire to teach and excellence in their filed.
[18:20] <MrMcGonagall> field.
[18:20] <nympheart> experience
[18:20] <fawkes28> i think expertise in the field rather than teaching ability
[18:20] <SevenofNine> Just like inthe muggle work, you can't get anyone else, FW
[18:20] <Alexk> trust from dumbledore, that's failed in the past
[18:20] <SevenofNine> Example--Hagrid
[18:20] <SevenofNine> Lockhart
[18:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I would think a certain level of Newt for the topic you are going to teach?
[18:20] <Expelliarmas> they have to be excellent at whatever it is they're going to teach
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[18:20] <FreedomStar> I was going to say that too
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[18:20] <Aislinn> It does seem to be expertise in the area they are teaching
[18:20] <nympheart> Hagrid never took NEWTs though
[18:20] <harryfreak359> experience
[18:20] <FreedomStar> but Hagrid didn't have a NEWT in Care of Magical Creatures
[18:20] <fawkes28> it seems more like college where professors don't need a teaching degree they just need to be experts in their area
[18:20] <harryfreak359> definitely
[18:20] <ProfessorJackson> I would guess they have to excel beyond even newt level
[18:20] <FreedomStar> maybe they need to take an aptitude test?
[18:20] <SoonerGryffindor> well, maybe some things dont require that
[18:20] <futureweasley> I think that the OWLs and NEWTs had something to do with it
[18:20] <SevenofNine> Hagrid had on the job training though
[18:20] <Poet> I agree SoonerGryffindor . And a certain amount of brownnosing of the previous teacher for that subject wink ?
[18:20] <Tanaqui> it also is whoever they can get--DADA anyone?
[18:20] <Expelliarmas> teaching ability doesn't seem to be criticial *cough*snape*coughLockhart*cough
[18:20] <futureweasley> plus, maybe apprenticeships?
[18:20] <fawkes28> bright, seven
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[18:20] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Poet
[18:20] <FreedomStar> but it seems like the Headmaster is the one who selects the teacher
[18:21] <Aislinn> no, but he does know how to care for creatures
[18:21] <nympheart> lol expel
[18:21] <futureweasley> well, DD admits he was desperate when he hired Lockhart
[18:21] <ProfessorJackson> but if it were like colleges, then they would need an "advanced" degree...is there such a thing in the WW?
[18:21] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, it does seem as if the headmaster is the one who decided
[18:21] <Aislinn> I think the DADA class was an exception, expie, due to the difficulties filling it
[18:21] <Poet> True, it doesn't hurt to be on the good side of the faculty & the headmaster in general
[18:21] <FreedomStar> true
[18:21] <SoonerGryffindor> surely Lockhart didnt get an O in anything did he?
[18:21] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid as care of magical creatures teacher would at least keep his limbs, he's done it so far as gamekeeper
[18:21] <FreedomStar> there were those Educational decrees
[18:21] <futureweasley> Profs could be panel appointed
[18:21] <harryfreak359> yeah Lockhart was the only applicant
[18:21] <ProfessorJackson> lol
[18:21] <MrMcGonagall> Maybe Lockhart did OK in Charms.
[18:21] <Tanaqui> perhaps lockhart got one in charms
[18:21] <ProfessorJackson> not quite what i meant
[18:21] <futureweasley> with the Headmaster with veto power
[18:21] <Poet> Lockhart appeared to have lots of real-life experience
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[18:22] <FreedomStar> It seems like Dumbledore was the one who made the big decisions
[18:22] <Poet> Though it wasn't true
[18:22] <SevenofNine> The wizarding world doesn't seem to have the higher educational structure as muggles, with the exception of Auors--and I would imagine healters
[18:22] <FreedomStar> like DD was the one who hired Snape and Trelawney
[18:22] <FreedomStar> and he also went out and brought back Firenze
[18:22] <Aislinn> DD has appointed each of the new teachers we've seen, except for Umbridge
[18:22] <SoonerGryffindor> oh yeah, I forgot about Sybil
[18:22] <futureweasley> good point Freedom
[18:22] <CedrellaBlack> iTS A little like playing favorites unless he headmaster is desperate eg. DADA
[18:22] <MrMcGonagall> I think it's pretty much the headmaster's decision, although it seems he needs to be able to defend his decision at times.
[18:22] <Expelliarmas> I think the headmaster is a one-person committee at Hogwarts
[18:22] <harryfreak359> I agree Seven
[18:22] <futureweasley> lol Expie
[18:22] <Poet> Sorry, I was making a joke about how certain teachers have their favorites, and those would be at the top of the teachers' suggestion-lists to DD as ones to call in for interviews
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[18:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I need to retract my first answer. Evidently you dont need to prove you are good at anything to be a teacher
[18:22] <futureweasley> Judge and jury, eh?
[18:22] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Debbie!
[18:22] <FreedomStar> lol
[18:22] <Aislinn> hi debbie
[18:22] <futureweasley> hi Debbie!
[18:22] <DumbleDebbie> hey folks smile
[18:22] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Debbie
[18:23] <FreedomStar> hello Debbie
[18:23] <CedrellaBlack> hy debbue!
[18:23] <SevenofNine> I wonder if the wizarding world uses more apprenticeships
[18:23] <CedrellaBlack> dbbie*
[18:23] <fawkes28> and with trelawney DD just wanted to protect her he didn't consider her teaching ability
[18:23] <Aislinn> I do think for the most part, you have to be good at your subject
[18:23] <CedrellaBlack> debbie*
[18:23] <nympheart> i think you do though, sooner, just there are exceptions
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[18:23] <DumbleDebbie> LOL Ced
[18:23] <futureweasley> that was my question, Seven...I don't know, but I have the feeling they do
[18:23] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome cbm
[18:23] <futureweasley> hi cbm
[18:23] <harryfreak359> hi debbie and cbm
[18:23] <cbm> hi'
[18:23] <Aislinn> we know that McGonagall is great at transfiguration, Flitwick seems to know his Charms, etc
[18:23] <FreedomStar> i don't understand how Dumbledore let someone like Lockhart and Qui
[18:23] <MrMcGonagall> In general DD wants qualifications when he can get them, but I think he considers the desire to teach a prime qualification.
[18:23] <FreedomStar> Quirrel teach defense
[18:23] <CedrellaBlack> well he made it clear that he didnt like Divination. I think one prophecy was enough to hire her
[18:23] <SoonerGryffindor> and we all know how good Snape is at potions
[18:23] <Tanaqui> in some cases i bet talent/experience is necessary though--not just anyone could teach transfiguration...
[18:23] <SevenofNine> And they want you to have some real life experience, so you don't teach right out of school (TR)
[18:23] <Expelliarmas> Lockhart was the only applicant for DADA
[18:23] <FreedomStar> mmm
[18:23] <futureweasley> stand out students in their own field?
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[18:23] <FreedomStar> Quirrel didn't seem to care too much
[18:23] <FreedomStar> but then again. . .
[18:23] <nympheart> quirrel was a good teacher once
[18:23] <harryfreak359> there was no one else for the job
[18:23] <futureweasley> hi cloudpic
[18:24] <Poet> The position was cursed as we know, hard to find teachers when they only last one year at a time
[18:24] <Aislinn> DD was just looking at other things besides qualification for the job when he hired some people
[18:24] <harryfreak359> hi cloudpic
[18:24] <fawkes28> nice point, sooner
[18:24] <SoonerGryffindor> hi cloudpic
[18:24] <DumbleDebbie> Lockhart did teach Harry something, it just wasn't DADA
[18:24] <cloudpic> Hi everyone!
[18:24] <FreedomStar> true
[18:24] <FreedomStar> hello!
[18:24] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks fawkes
[18:24] <CedrellaBlack> True Debbie
[18:24] <Poet> Many first year teachers have a lot to learn - they get better with time
[18:24] <Aislinn> good point debbie
[18:24] <DumbleDebbie> it taught him the dangers of getting a swelled head
[18:24] <SevenofNine> lol Debbie
[18:24] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, inadvertantly Debbie
[18:24] <cloudpic> Nice point DumbleDebbie
[18:24] <futureweasley> Had Trelawney not made the “Prophecy” would Dumbledore ultimately have hired her?
[18:24] <nympheart> no
[18:24] <SevenofNine> No
[18:24] <FreedomStar> probably not
[18:24] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe that was the lesson DD wanted for Harry?
[18:24] <Aislinn> no
[18:24] <cbm> no
[18:24] <fawkes28> i don't think he would have
[18:24] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner, not by Lockhart's design, but maybe by Albus'
[18:24] <harryfreak359> no
[18:24] <cloudpic> He seemed to say not.
[18:24] <futureweasley> I don't think so either
[18:24] <Alexk> no
[18:24] <Aislinn> he basically said he wasn't going to
[18:24] <FreedomStar> I bet he got Trelawney to keep her out of Voldemort's hands
[18:24] <SevenofNine> He said he was looking at discontinuing the subject.
[18:24] <SoonerGryffindor> he said he was not going to till she did the prophecy
[18:24] <nympheart> he didn't plan on hiring her
[18:24] <Poet> No, i think there would be no divination subject
[18:24] <DumbleDebbie> nope
[18:24] <Tanaqui> i doubt he would have even noticed her
[18:25] <futureweasley> I think he realized she was in great danger after that
[18:25] <CedrellaBlack> But i think he was pretty incompetent as far as DADA goes i like to call him mr. Memory Charm becuase thats the only charm he has
[18:25] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think he would have. He would have discontinued the subject.
[18:25] <Aislinn> it sounded like he was even considering not continuing Divination as a course
[18:25] <DumbleDebbie> right Future
[18:25] <cloudpic> I agree FutureW
[18:25] <harryfreak359> yeah, he said that he was considering dropping the subject
[18:25] <DumbleDebbie> right Aislinn
[18:25] <Alexk> he hired her to see if she would give anymore information on Harry and Voldy
[18:25] <CedrellaBlack> agreed fw
[18:25] <FreedomStar> It's so hard to find a good Divination teacher for the subject.
[18:25] <SevenofNine> He only granteed the interview as a courtesy
[18:25] <fawkes28> no, he wanted to protect her
[18:25] <FreedomStar> Trelawney does seem to see some things that are little and a few big things
[18:25] <futureweasley> especially when *someone* was spying and going right back to LV with the info
[18:25] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, cause he said he never saw how difficult it would be, never taking it himself biggrin
[18:25] <cloudpic> And to protect her from Voldemort
[18:25] <nympheart> yeah, seven
[18:25] <Aislinn> yes fawkes, that was his primary motivation
[18:25] <FreedomStar> well the interview he gave her as a courtesy but he was prepared to say no to her
[18:25] <FreedomStar> and then she made the propehcy
[18:26] <CedrellaBlack> lol sooner
[18:26] <FreedomStar> prophecy*
[18:26] <fawkes28> way to be subtle, future
[18:26] <SevenofNine> Yes. I've interviewed people as a courtesy, with no intention of hiring them.
[18:26] <CedrellaBlack> snape
[18:26] <Poet> dundundun
[18:26] <harryfreak359> lol
[18:26] <futureweasley> thanks fawkes
[18:26] <CedrellaBlack> hahaa
[18:26] <futureweasley> I try
[18:26] <SoonerGryffindor> dont think I didnt see that future
[18:26] <harryfreak359> lol
[18:26] <fawkes28> hehe
[18:26] <Aislinn> I have too seven
[18:26] <CedrellaBlack> lol
[18:27] <DumbleDebbie> lol Future
[18:27] <cbm> So have 7of9
[18:27] <futureweasley> Given his formidable skills, why did Dumbledore chose to work first as transfiguration professor and then as Headmaster of Hogwarts?
[18:27] <cbm> so have i
[18:27] <ProfessorJackson> as opposed to?
[18:27] <SevenofNine> Love of teaching?
[18:27] <FreedomStar> Well...I don't think he would have been able to jump in as Headmaster
[18:27] <fawkes28> i think he wanted to teach and be close to the students
[18:27] <DumbleDebbie> maybe that was the position that was open
[18:27] <Expelliarmas> it seems DD could have done anything he wanted to do and chose teaching
[18:27] <cloudpic> He loves to teach... sees the school as vital
[18:27] <Aislinn> I think, like McGonagall, he was very skilled at Transfiguratioin
[18:27] <Poet> Being in the education field you could continue to focus on learning and growing yourself
[18:27] <SoonerGryffindor> well, I think transfiguation is pretty tough
[18:27] <nympheart> transfiguration is one of the hardest subjects
[18:27] <FreedomStar> he seems to be well versed in everything to be able to teach anything
[18:27] <harryfreak359> he's a good teacher and very smart
[18:27] <SoonerGryffindor> not a lot of people can teach it IMO
[18:27] <fawkes28> he loves learning and students
[18:27] <cloudpic> I like that point, Poet
[18:27] <DumbleDebbie> it fits his strengths
[18:27] <Aislinn> and he seems to love the whole world of educating young wizards
[18:27] <futureweasley> I think he was a natural born leader...teaching was what was right for him
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[18:27] <harryfreak359> I agree Future
[18:28] <CedrellaBlack> I have to go guyss byebyee see you sunday if i get back from my retreat soon enough
[18:28] <ProfessorJackson> it seems that he would need to work his way up, even given his strengths. He needed to demonstrate leadership
[18:28] <fawkes28> i can't picture dumbeldore ever being in a cubicle
[18:28] <cloudpic> He seems to have time to explore his interests and concerns as well
[18:28] <FreedomStar> bye!
[18:28] <futureweasley> something got him interested in the politics of Hogwarts, so Headmaster was a natural next step
[18:28] <SevenofNine> Some teachers love young people too
[18:28] <DumbleDebbie> bye Ced
[18:28] <Expelliarmas> bye cb
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[18:28] <cloudpic> He chose the career when he was older, evidently...
[18:28] <SoonerGryffindor> bye ced
[18:28] <SevenofNine> They keep them young. And DD had such a great sense of humor.
[18:28] <FreedomStar> He probably hired McGonagall when he got the Headmaster position
[18:28] <Expelliarmas> well, he turned down the offer to be MoM
[18:28] <fawkes28> when you teach, you learn and your mind stays young
[18:28] <Aislinn> we don't know how long he taught, cloudpic
[18:28] <nympheart> dd's mind was young
[18:28] <FreedomStar> He taught for at lesat 50 years
[18:28] <cloudpic> True...
[18:28] <Aislinn> but he does seem to have done other things, like his work with Flamel
[18:28] <SevenofNine> We just know DD was a teacher then, yet
[18:29] <futureweasley> he was teaching at Hogwarts when Hagrid was expelled
[18:29] * SoonerGryffindor thinks we might need to talk about DD's family in some chat? wink
[18:29] <cloudpic> But if he's 150 years old....
[18:29] <ProfessorJackson> he clearly believes that he has more freedom and more influence as headmaster than as MoM
[18:29] <FreedomStar> because when the Chamber was opened the first time it was 50 years before and he was a transfig. prof.
[18:29] <Poet> He's now 150 and he has or had lots of positions on various boards and such (according to the Daily Prophet)
[18:29] <DumbleDebbie> maybe the Flamel stuff was in the summers
[18:29] <fawkes28> right, dumbledore worked with flamel to keep his own education going
[18:29] <SevenofNine> DD could have had an entire life before he began teaching.
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[18:29] <DumbleDebbie> true 7
[18:29] <Aislinn> he could have
[18:29] <FreedomStar> well schools aren't traditionally associated with the government
[18:29] <nympheart> i think he may have done his own magical research first
[18:29] <SoonerGryffindor> very true seven
[18:29] <Aislinn> hi AEN
[18:29] <fawkes28> hi aen
[18:29] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome AEN
[18:29] <futureweasley> I think you're right seven
[18:29] <An_Eternal_Night> hi everyone
[18:29] <Expelliarmas> hi AEN
[18:29] <FreedomStar> hello AEN
[18:29] <futureweasley> hi AEN
[18:29] <An_Eternal_Night> sorry i'm late!
[18:30] <Poet> Dumbledore = my hero I have to say
[18:30] <SevenofNine> Hey
[18:30] <SoonerGryffindor> np
[18:30] <fawkes28> i'm sure he had to do something to gain experience before he could teach at hogwarts
[18:30] <SevenofNine> Me, too, Poet
[18:30] <FreedomStar> lotsa traffic here tonight smile
[18:30] <nympheart> i'm not a fan of dd actually
[18:30] <DumbleDebbie> me too Poet
[18:30] <FreedomStar> It's probably different with each headmaster
[18:30] <Aislinn> *gasp*
[18:30] <cloudpic> Not? nympheart?
[18:30] <nympheart> never was
[18:30] <DumbleDebbie> sacrilidge nymph
[18:30] <cloudpic> *faints*
[18:30] <Poet> He's powerful yet somewhat humble, both of which are good qualities of a teacher
[18:30] <fawkes28> awe i love him
[18:30] <DumbleDebbie> wink
[18:30] <An_Eternal_Night> I think he's wonderful
[18:30] * SoonerGryffindor takes nympheart of her Christmas card list
[18:30] <FreedomStar> I'm sure that Dippet hired people based on different values
[18:30] <Expelliarmas> I think DD thought it important to teach as many kids as possible and influence the wizarding society in that manner
[18:30] <futureweasley> ME EITHER nympheart!!
[18:30] <SevenofNine> People have suggested Snape (if good) for headmaster. I think he has a lot in common with Phineas
[18:30] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner
[18:30] <cloudpic> He has a sense of humor!
[18:30] <FreedomStar> whilst Dumbledore just seems to know.
[18:30] <nympheart> yay!
[18:30] <DumbleDebbie> Future?!?
[18:31] <fawkes28> you are just being dramatic , future
[18:31] <SevenofNine> And he would suck at the job.
[18:31] <FreedomStar> Ugh, I don't think Snape would make a good headmaster
[18:31] <cloudpic> ooooooo
[18:31] <nympheart> maybe i won't be chased out with pitchforks and torches
[18:31] * futureweasley hugs nympheart
[18:31] * SoonerGryffindor shakes head at MJ
[18:31] <Aislinn> ok, jobs, not characters people
[18:31] <futureweasley> ok, alright
[18:31] <futureweasley> What other jobs could Dumbledore have performed other than education? What jobs do you think he had before becoming a professor?
[18:31] <cloudpic> Auror
[18:31] <ProfessorJackson> Anything!
[18:31] <nympheart> magical research
[18:31] * DumbleDebbie stands by Sooner
[18:31] <FreedomStar> Not Auror
[18:31] <SevenofNine> DD is self taught, I understand.
[18:31] <SoonerGryffindor> that's a toughie
[18:31] <Poet> I could see him as an auror, he likes to do a bit of detective work
[18:31] <Aislinn> we'lll argue about DD another night biggrin
[18:31] <cloudpic> alchemist...we know
[18:31] <An_Eternal_Night> a candy maker!
[18:31] <harryfreak359> anything really
[18:31] <FreedomStar> I couldn't see him as an auror
[18:31] <Expelliarmas> well he did research, the 12 uses of dragon's blood
[18:31] <Poet> Also in the Dept of Mysteries - researching
[18:31] <cloudpic> LOL AEN
[18:31] <futureweasley> Cage cleaner at the Magical Merangie?
[18:31] <fawkes28> research for a little while
[18:31] <SevenofNine> I think it would take time to get good and study what he knew
[18:31] <FreedomStar> I agree with magical research
[18:31] <MrMcGonagall> He would have made a pretty amazing Unspeakable.
[18:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I almost see him as a free agent, doing whatever he wanted
[18:31] <cloudpic> Maybe a Healer?
[18:31] <FreedomStar> yep, the 12 uses of dragons blood
[18:31] <Aislinn> yes, I think he was a researcher
[18:31] <ProfessorJackson> research...i agree
[18:32] <SoonerGryffindor> more in a research type ara
[18:32] <DumbleDebbie> Grindelwald-hunter
[18:32] <fawkes28> right he would be perfect in the DoM
[18:32] <cloudpic> Definitely did research
[18:32] <Alexk> psychologist, he's very good at keeping calm when people act crazy
[18:32] <cbm> bowling pro
[18:32] <DumbleDebbie> wizard scientist biggrin
[18:32] <nympheart> yes, dumbledebbie
[18:32] <fawkes28> lol debbie
[18:32] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh! Unspeakable?
[18:32] <FreedomStar> oh right Debbie I forgot about the Grindewald thing
[18:32] <nympheart> forgot that one
[18:32] <cloudpic> LOL cbm!!
[18:32] <FreedomStar> Unspeakable would be pretty neat
[18:32] <FreedomStar> but I can't see DD doing that
[18:32] <futureweasley> I think he did hunt Grindelwald Debbie
[18:32] <Expelliarmas> I don't think he went for commercial success, if he had he'd likely have made a mint
[18:32] <An_Eternal_Night> He loves sweets, and he's very eccentric, so I can see him inventing candies- or tasting them
[18:32] <FreedomStar> well he did defeat grindewald
[18:32] <MrMcGonagall> I rather think he never really worked for the Ministry, though. He does seem to be well-informed about the Ministry, however.
[18:32] <futureweasley> so, I think that Auror would have suited him
[18:32] <SevenofNine> Interesting that there are Unspeakables, yet DD knew about the locked room
[18:32] <Poet> Yes, he's a Chamber Music enthusiast, so perhaps running an orchestral organization smile
[18:32] <DumbleDebbie> isn't that what the unspeakables are? scientists
[18:32] <ProfessorJackson> i think he hunted Grindelwald on his own though...not in an official capacity
[18:32] <nympheart> willy wonka AEN?
[18:32] <cloudpic> Dumbledore certainly has great fighting ability... he would have been a good Auror
[18:32] <SoonerGryffindor> official candy taster for Honeydukes!
[18:32] <Aislinn> I don't think he did either Mr M
[18:32] <futureweasley> nice Sooner
[18:33] <Poet> I like it
[18:33] <Aislinn> I think he was off doing his own thing
[18:33] <fawkes28> i wonder what his first job was though he couldnt have gone from student at hogwarts into a big job like unspeakable
[18:33] <An_Eternal_Night> that would be a great job!
[18:33] <cloudpic> Yeah... I suppose he didn't work for the Ministry
[18:33] * SoonerGryffindor thinks that would actually make a good member title
[18:33] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner he'd love that
[18:33] <FreedomStar> Probably something silly
[18:33] <futureweasley> he could have worked at Borgin & Burkes
[18:33] <nympheart> lol sooner
[18:33] <FreedomStar> Well DD wasn't always on bad terms with the ministry
[18:33] <SevenofNine> Nah
[18:33] <DumbleDebbie> no way Future
[18:33] <harryfreak359> lol sooner
[18:33] <Aislinn> I think he could have been doing research without being an Unspeakable
[18:33] <DumbleDebbie> ewww
[18:33] <FreedomStar> and there was a different minister back then
[18:33] <FreedomStar> Dumbledore's ages older than Fudge
[18:33] * SoonerGryffindor gets out the 2x4........
[18:33] <harryfreak359> yeah I agree Aislinn
[18:33] <Expelliarmas> no way he would have worked at B&B
[18:33] <futureweasley> hence the whole knowledge of what went on there
[18:33] <MrMcGonagall> He was the soda jerk at Florean Fortescue's.
[18:33] <FreedomStar> be right back
[18:33] <fawkes28> is there such thing as a college or grad school he could have went to for general studies?
[18:33] <SevenofNine> Gotta run. Bye
[18:33] <futureweasley> as a "spy"
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[18:33] <harryfreak359> bye
[18:34] <SoonerGryffindor> bye seven
[18:34] <Aislinn> bye seven
[18:34] <cloudpic> Oh... he'd have loved that, Mr.McG!
[18:34] <Poet> Nope
[18:34] <Aislinn> hi anna
[18:34] <nympheart> Jo said there's no college
[18:34] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Anna
[18:34] <futureweasley> hi anna
[18:34] <AnnaNoe> hi every1
[18:34] <cbm> I think he would of made a great MOM
[18:34] <ProfessorJackson> she did?
[18:34] <An_Eternal_Night> hi Anna
[18:34] <harryfreak359> hi
[18:34] * cloudpic Would like a job at Fortesques
[18:34] <Aislinn> I think he could have apprenticed with someone
[18:34] <Expelliarmas> he could have gone to other parts of the world to learn what they had to offer
[18:34] <Poet> Hi Anna - you made it before the end smile
[18:34] <DumbleDebbie> I that'd be a hard sell, DD as a dark wizard shop apprentice
[18:34] <SoonerGryffindor> really, theres nothing I cant imagine him doing
[18:34] <Aislinn> and I see him as a former version of Harry - out to defeat the dark side
[18:34] <MrMcGonagall> I'm thinking he was sort of an independent scientist/researcher, publishing scholarly tomes on his findings.
[18:34] <AnnaNoe> i know! im proud of myself :p
[18:34] <futureweasley> What type of wizarding job would one be suited for, if Transfiguration is your best subject?
[18:34] <Aislinn> hence the hunt for Grindelwald
[18:34] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he apprenticed with Flamel
[18:35] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea
[18:35] <cloudpic> McGonagall seemed to indicate that Dumbledore knew how to use the Dark Arts but chose not to.
[18:35] <fawkes28> i'm not sure
[18:35] <FreedomStar> oh probably Accidental Magical Reversal Squad
[18:35] <Aislinn> hmmmm....
[18:35] <futureweasley> pet shop owner
[18:35] <DumbleDebbie> good questin, I have no diea
[18:35] <SoonerGryffindor> transfiguration teacher?
[18:35] <futureweasley> spy
[18:35] <An_Eternal_Night> Maybe an artist? or a wizarding architect?
[18:35] <FreedomStar> or those people that return splinched people to their original state
[18:35] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Freddomstar
[18:35] <An_Eternal_Night> haha, Sooner
[18:35] <SoonerGryffindor> good one freedom
[18:35] * DumbleDebbie bops future on the noggin
[18:35] <nympheart> i like freedom's
[18:35] * SoonerGryffindor hands Debbie the 2x4
[18:35] <futureweasley> what? a spy is a very respectible career
[18:35] <ProfessorJackson> actor!
[18:35] <nympheart> lol
[18:35] <DumbleDebbie> thanks Sooner biggrin
[18:35] <Expelliarmas> depends on whether it's transfiguring things or oneself
[18:35] <Poet> Transfiguration doesn't seem to be permanent, so I'd say Auror - you could disguise yourself
[18:36] <cloudpic> Ladies! Please, this is a nonviolent zone, surely!
[18:36] <SoonerGryffindor> can you transfgure yourself?
[18:36] <FreedomStar> yes
[18:36] <MrMcGonagall> Sure, Krum did it.
[18:36] <DumbleDebbie> future is baiting Sooner
[18:36] <fawkes28> maybe he could own a store and he just transfigured objects based on what his customers wanted?
[18:36] <Aislinn> yes it is cloud smile
[18:36] <SoonerGryffindor> lol cloudpic
[18:36] <FreedomStar> they did a Self Transfiguration unit in book 6
[18:36] <Poet> Slughorn was a chair
[18:36] <cbm> A spy deals i lying and deception, not thinking the best of people
[18:36] <Aislinn> becoming an animagus is transfiguring oneself
[18:36] <An_Eternal_Night> Harry's yellow eyebrow, hahahaha
[18:36] <SoonerGryffindor> oh yeah, I forgot about that
[18:36] <DumbleDebbie> 'spy is a respectible career' hee hee
[18:36] <nympheart> spies are very respected in Drasnia
[18:36] <harryfreak359> lol
[18:37] <nympheart> they also make up half the population
[18:37] <futureweasley> How about Charms?
[18:37] * SoonerGryffindor smacks herself with the 2x4 for forgetting about the eyebrows
[18:37] <MrMcGonagall> One could work in research and development for Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes. Their products seem to use a lot of transfiguration.
[18:37] <FreedomStar> A charms person could do anything
[18:37] <ProfessorJackson> healer
[18:37] <cloudpic> Of all things mentioned here, independent researcher strikes me as most likely, no? Rather like the twins!
[18:37] <harryfreak359> Ummm....anything!
[18:37] <Expelliarmas> well, an auror would definitely need transfiguration skills, but likely need charms more
[18:37] <DumbleDebbie> party supplies (for charms)
[18:37] <Poet> Would charms be good for healer? Yeah
[18:37] <Aislinn> charms are dead useful
[18:37] <DumbleDebbie> or a joke shop
[18:37] <Poet> That's what I was thinking ProfessorJackson
[18:37] <nympheart> a housewife
[18:37] <Aislinn> I think they can be a useful skill for almost any job
[18:37] <SoonerGryffindor> charms seem really cool
[18:37] <cbm> I think spying is respectable, just not in line with Dumbledores character
[18:37] <futureweasley> Security Guard
[18:37] <fawkes28> and a charms teacher!
[18:37] <harryfreak359> errr...Joke shop owner
[18:37] <DumbleDebbie> gp fawkes smile
[18:37] <Poet> Cursebreakers probably need a strong understanding of charms
[18:38] <DumbleDebbie> right Poet
[18:38] <cloudpic> Joke shop.... but only as a sideline
[18:38] <SoonerGryffindor> and you have to know charms well to be an auror as well
[18:38] <Expelliarmas> would it be useful for cursebreaking, or is that more in line with DADA?
[18:38] <futureweasley> Stay at home mom (Molly)
[18:38] <ProfessorJackson> right, poet
[18:38] <Poet> ...working for Gringotts in any capacity
[18:38] <Aislinn> I think you could use it for cursebreaking
[18:38] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Molly has some handy tricks
[18:38] <Aislinn> Charlie probably uses Charms with the dragons
[18:38] <harryfreak359> broomstick designer
[18:38] <Aislinn> Molly uses them all the time
[18:38] <ProfessorJackson> Product creation in any field...
[18:38] <Expelliarmas> stealing folks memories and taking credit for them in false books *cough*Lockhart*cough*
[18:38] <Poet> You could have a service to put charms on wizard houses for their owners
[18:38] <harryfreak359> lol
[18:38] <MrMcGonagall> Charms is useful in almost any field, I would think.
[18:38] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie
[18:38] <nympheart> anything with making magical objects
[18:38] <FreedomStar> professional dueler??
[18:39] <Poet> I love it Expelliarmas
[18:39] <fawkes28> so you really need charms for everyday use
[18:39] <Aislinn> I think so too MR m
[18:39] <FreedomStar> That's what Flitwick was rumored to be. . .
[18:39] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie
[18:39] <FreedomStar> biggrin
[18:39] <harryfreak359> yeah
[18:39] <MrMcGonagall> It's a very flexible sort of magic.
[18:39] <futureweasley> defense teacher...think "dojo"
[18:39] <cloudpic> Flitwick was a good duelist
[18:39] <cloudpic> ?
[18:39] <Expelliarmas> I love the idea of Flitwick as a duelist
[18:39] <Poet> Interesting yes, that Flitwich was a duelist
[18:39] <Expelliarmas> he's so easy going
[18:39] <cloudpic> Wow.
[18:39] <cbm> Psychologist, you can use cheering charms
[18:39] <MrMcGonagall> Yoda with a wand.
[18:39] <nympheart> and small
[18:39] <futureweasley> And Potions?
[18:39] <cloudpic> I suspect being "easy going" would be helpful.... Oh yes! Yoda, thanks Mr. MCG.
[18:39] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[18:40] <harryfreak359> Healer
[18:40] <Poet> Healer
[18:40] <Expelliarmas> for sure healer and auror for potions
[18:40] <ProfessorJackson> again...healing
[18:40] <MrMcGonagall> Definitely Potions would be hadny for Healers.
[18:40] <futureweasley> Shampoo trial tester
[18:40] <fawkes28> are we going to say spy again?
[18:40] <Aislinn> potions are important for healers
[18:40] <cbm> joke shop owner
[18:40] <MrMcGonagall> Pet care.
[18:40] <SoonerGryffindor> ooooooooh
[18:40] <Aislinn> and inventors
[18:40] <futureweasley> definitely something in medicine
[18:40] <ProfessorJackson> magical scientist
[18:40] <MrMcGonagall> Oops, time for me to grab dinner . . . might be back in a bit.
[18:40] <Expelliarmas> the twins used quite a lot for their joke shop/defense products
[18:40] <fawkes28> mothers too
[18:40] <Alexk> death eaters?
[18:40] <Expelliarmas> bye mrm
[18:40] <Poet> Love potion specialist?
[18:40] <Aislinn> I think they are also used by aurors
[18:40] <futureweasley> see you soon MrMcG
[18:40] <fawkes28> bye, mr. mcg
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[18:41] <SoonerGryffindor> healers would need to know potions well
[18:41] <Aislinn> yes they would
[18:41] <futureweasley> very well, sooner
[18:41] <fawkes28> maybe for researchers too so they can find new potions
[18:41] <Expelliarmas> seems healers would have to know everything really well
[18:41] <DumbleDebbie> yeah potions would be good for healing... or poisoning
[18:41] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, I agree
[18:41] <ProfessorJackson> ooh. assassin?
[18:41] <DumbleDebbie> you would Expie to diagnose problems
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[18:41] <DumbleDebbie> yep, would be handy for an assasin
[18:41] <Expelliarmas> and come up with treatments [but not stitching]
[18:42] <Poet> Parents probably get a lot of use out of potions for sick children - a good thing for a parent to know
[18:42] <futureweasley> Before he became the head of the Office for the Detection and Confiscation of Counterfeit Defensive Spells and Protective Objects, Arthur worked in the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Department. He was not well paid for that Ministry job. What jobs do you think are high paying in the wizarding world, and which are low paying? Why do you think that is?
[18:42] <Poet> Dangerous jobs pay more
[18:42] <SoonerGryffindor> Death Eater?
[18:42] <Aislinn> I think Aurors are fairly highly paid
[18:42] <Poet> those involving loss of limb - dragon keeper
[18:42] <fawkes28> i think the aurors would get well paid
[18:42] <An_Eternal_Night> I accidentally unplugged my computer.... that's one genius point for me.
[18:42] <Aislinn> because of the danger involved
[18:42] <cloudpic> Difficult jobs... since fewer people can do them...
[18:42] <DumbleDebbie> obliviators are probably paid more, secrecy is so key
[18:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol AEN
[18:42] <Expelliarmas> DEs likely don't make a load of dough, LV is a cheapskate
[18:42] <DumbleDebbie> LOL AEN
[18:42] <futureweasley> pay more
[18:42] <futureweasley> jobs with more "respect"
[18:42] <Poet> Charm breakers or jobs involving finance, thought the goblins probably like to hold onto their money
[18:43] <Aislinn> which ones are respected, FW?
[18:43] <fawkes28> i bet teachers don't get well paid
[18:43] <Poet> *though the goblins
[18:43] <Alexk> death eater's payment is satisfying lv
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[18:43] <cloudpic> I agree, Expell... I doubt they get any "pay" just bribes and boons
[18:43] <Aislinn> hi Val
[18:43] <DumbleDebbie> if unspeakables are scientist being paid by the Ministry, they probably aren't millionaires either
[18:43] <fawkes28> i think a curse breaker would do well with money
[18:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I bet you're right fawkes
[18:43] <futureweasley> Wizards don't really think that "Muggle Artifacts" are worth studying
[18:43] <FreedomStar> I agree with Fawkes
[18:43] <ProfessorJackson> i don't know about the respect. teachers have high respect, but judging by snape's home, not much pay...
[18:43] <Expelliarmas> the cursebreakers, though, work for gringotts, not the MoM
[18:43] <Aislinn> curse breakers probably get a cut of the treasure they find
[18:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I bet Voldie has loads of mney, and we all know that the Goblins reallu dont care if you are on the MoM's most wanted list
[18:43] <futureweasley> however, hunting dark wizards is a more dangerous job
[18:43] <cloudpic> Shop owners seem to do well if they have the right product! (twins)
[18:44] <Aislinn> good point professor
[18:44] <Poet> Inn keepers may not make a lot of money, but your never know.
[18:44] <DumbleDebbie> yeah the aurors should get hazard pay
[18:44] <ProfessorJackson> business owners seem to do well if they can make a go of it...
[18:44] <FreedomStar> well in the US accountants make tons of money
[18:44] <Poet> Exactly cloudpic
[18:44] <Aislinn> I wonder if Quidditch players are high paid, like athletes here
[18:44] <FreedomStar> big businesses
[18:44] <cloudpic> We don't pay our policemen or soldiers well at all....
[18:44] <Expelliarmas> Jobs which involve Muggles likely don't get good pay, Muggles not being high on the list of wizard respect
[18:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I want to know what Unspeakables make
[18:44] <FreedomStar> I bet Quidditch players are highly paid
[18:44] <Expelliarmas> or jobs which involve the goblins, elves, giants, etc .
[18:44] <futureweasley> I would like so Aislinn...look at the marketing
[18:44] <An_Eternal_Night> I think that quiditch players probably are high paid
[18:44] <fawkes28> well, they are never going to tell you now are they, sooner? lol
[18:44] <FreedomStar> I wonder about the people on the Wizengamot.
[18:44] <SoonerGryffindor> what about entertainers? Wonder what the weird sisters make?


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[18:45] <DumbleDebbie> gp Future
[18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> no fawkes, they wont
[18:45] <AnnaNoe> it makes ya wonder how much money an auror would make..bcuz when harry's parents died he got a ship load of gold in the bank?
[18:45] <An_Eternal_Night> They are probably rolling in money
[18:45] <Expelliarmas> the weird sisters can name their price
[18:45] <Poet> There's got to be some sort of wizard tax to pay all of those MoM employees - either that or fines are really high
[18:45] <Aislinn> its probably similar - they get paid a cut of their concerts and songs, sooner
[18:45] <futureweasley> wizengamot? probably paid like lawyers...some well-paid, some not
[18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> right Anna, but I think that was inherited oney
[18:45] <fawkes28> the person that does the apparition test probably doesnt make a lot of money
[18:45] <cloudpic> That money was James inheritance, no?
[18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> *money
[18:45] <Expelliarmas> some of that money, though Anna, was inherited
[18:45] <AnnaNoe> aah ok
[18:45] <AnnaNoe> *shuts up*
[18:45] <Expelliarmas> but they could have invested well as well
[18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> no
[18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> dont shut up
[18:45] <Expelliarmas> don't do that Anna
[18:45] <cloudpic> Nononononon....anna!
[18:45] * futureweasley wants to hear more from Anna!!
[18:46] <Poet> Inventors probably make a lot of money if they have a good product - Bowman Wright for instance
[18:46] <DumbleDebbie> this is no place for shutting up, it's for yakking biggrin
[18:46] * cloudpic wants to hear more Anna!
[18:46] <SoonerGryffindor> good point, Poet
[18:46] <AnnaNoe> ok ok ok
[18:46] <ProfessorJackson> fred and george have a good shot then...great inventors
[18:46] <harryfreak359> so true Debbie
[18:46] <Expelliarmas> the potters died so young, it's hard to tell how much money they earned for their work
[18:46] <harryfreak359> biggrin
[18:46] <Aislinn> I imagine the makers of the Firebolt make a pretty good living
[18:46] <cloudpic> Thank you, Anna
[18:46] <DumbleDebbie> depends on if he gets the kickbacks
[18:46] <fawkes28> oh and if you write books that sell well *cough* lockhart*cough*
[18:46] <harryfreak359> no doubt Aislinn
[18:46] <Poet> Good point
[18:46] <Expelliarmas> lol fawkes
[18:46] <futureweasley> I think that Fortescue probably made a killing running the Ice Cream Shop
[18:46] <cloudpic> Ohhh...considering what they charge, you're right...Aislinn
[18:46] <harryfreak359> lol fawkes
[18:47] <SoonerGryffindor> lol future
[18:47] <futureweasley> What would qualify a wizard to be a member of the Wizengamot?
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[18:47] <An_Eternal_Night> I wonder how much money Rita Skeeter makes, or made
[18:47] <cloudpic> Yeah... private enterprise! Way to make $$$
[18:47] <Val_Halla> Slughorn brags about knowing the inventor of Wolfsbane potion - he must be rich
[18:47] <nympheart> my computer is evil
[18:47] <SoonerGryffindor> wb nymph
[18:47] <Expelliarmas> what does the wizengamot do again?
[18:47] <Poet> There may be a minimum age limit
[18:47] <AnnaNoe> wand makers as well prolly make loads
[18:47] * DumbleDebbie things there must be a cold going around, everyone keeps coughing
[18:47] <fawkes28> i would think experience plays a big role
[18:47] <harryfreak359> I think they would have to be very experienced and well known in the ministry
[18:47] <Aislinn> I think being members of the wizarding community that are respected
[18:47] <cloudpic> LOL DumbleDebbie
[18:47] <SoonerGryffindor> well, is this pre or post Umbridge?
[18:47] <futureweasley> the wizengamot, I think, is comparible to our supreme court
[18:47] <nympheart> what's the question?
[18:47] <fawkes28> lag lag
[18:47] <Aislinn> either through work and experience in the ministry, or other respected positions
[18:48] <futureweasley> What would qualify a wizard to be a member of the Wizengamot? (for nympheart(
[18:48] <Expelliarmas> they don't seem to be a higher court, more like a trial court
[18:48] <SoonerGryffindor> cause I'm not too impressed with the qualificiations if she is a member
[18:48] <An_Eternal_Night> Yeah Poet, the WOMBAT question informed us that the average age of the Wizengamot was 85, I think
[18:48] <Poet> So I would think they'd been a part of other departments in the Ministry that helped develop laws and standards
[18:48] <DumbleDebbie> either be a respected upstanding member of society, or buy your way in
[18:48] <nympheart> a lot of respect
[18:48] <futureweasley> maybe you are elected to the wizengamot?
[18:48] <Aislinn> I don't think Umbridge was a member of the Wizengamot
[18:48] <fawkes28> maybe there are former aurors on it
[18:48] <cloudpic> I wonder if the Wizengamot is a paid position... may be considered an honor?
[18:48] <nympheart> i think elected
[18:48] <ProfessorJackson> are they elected? like judges?
[18:48] <futureweasley> there is a "board of governors"
[18:48] <Aislinn> I think she was there as Fudge's Lackey
[18:48] <Expelliarmas> well, wasn't DD expelled from the Wizengamot?
[18:48] <cloudpic> Amen, Aislinn!
[18:48] <harryfreak359> yeah
[18:48] <Aislinn> he was expie
[18:48] <SoonerGryffindor> oh, that's good to know Aislinn
[18:48] <Poet> Amelia Bones for instance had been apart of other departments and she was on the Wizengamot, right?
[18:48] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Expie
[18:49] <ProfessorJackson> oh yeah...expelled, not recalled...
[18:49] <futureweasley> yes Poet, good point
[18:49] <Expelliarmas> so a few members resigned in protest
[18:49] <cloudpic> Seems like some sort of honor then?
[18:49] <futureweasley> he was asked to "step down"
[18:49] <harryfreak359> I think they have to be on the good side of the ministry for sure
[18:49] <Poet> The Wizengamot are probably very busy. I hope they get paid.
[18:49] <SoonerGryffindor> that;s right, they did
[18:49] <futureweasley> and DD did not fight
[18:49] <Aislinn> DD was reinstated, once everyone believed him again
[18:49] <DumbleDebbie> maybe they pick leaders from Ministry depts for some seats and from the community for others
[18:49] <FreedomStar> well I don't know if it's an honor, but it's more like the Minister's Cabinet
[18:49] <Alexk> achieve something great, discover something, like winning the nobel prize?
[18:49] <Alexk> (considered to be very wise)
[18:49] <Poet> I like that idea Dumbedebbie
[18:49] <Expelliarmas> maybe they are asked to join by the Wizengamot, by invitation?
[18:49] <cloudpic> Respected ...yes, Alexk
[18:49] <Aislinn> that seems logical debbie
[18:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I bet you have to be elected and then go through an apprval process, kinda like what happens to be a judge
[18:50] <FreedomStar> kind of like the people who work for the president, like the secretary of state, secretary of war, secretary of defense, etc.
[18:50] <futureweasley> Although there are loads of wizarding laws and regulations, there don’t seem to be any magical lawyers (Buckbeak had to depend on Hagrid, enough said; Harry depending on Dumbledore). Why no magical lawyers (*Expelliarmas is miffed!*)?
[18:50] <Val_Halla> i like that idea exp
[18:50] <Poet> I would think that they'd done well on their History of Magic NEWTS
[18:50] <nympheart> i think there might be
[18:50] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[18:50] <Expelliarmas> ohhhh, I AM annoyed there are no magical lawyers!
[18:50] <cloudpic> Perhaps they followed Shakespeare's advice....
[18:50] * Expelliarmas is a magical lawyer!
[18:50] <FreedomStar> Oooo, that's a hard question
[18:50] <futureweasley> it's definitely a Defend yourself kind of thing
[18:50] <harryfreak359> maybe cloudpic
[18:50] <Alexk> you can always persuade the court by means of the imperius curse
[18:50] <FreedomStar> Maybe it's because everyone is expected to kind of fend for themselves?
[18:50] <cbm> Because their laws and systems are out of the 15th century
[18:50] <harryfreak359> smile
[18:51] * SoonerGryffindor thinks that Expie needs to take a Kwikspell course and then become the first magical lawyer
[18:51] * cloudpic apologizes to Expelliarmas for such talk
[18:51] <Aislinn> maybe Jo takes after Shakespeare: "First, kill all the lawyers" tongue
[18:51] <futureweasley> I think it's assumed that if you are innocent, your story will hold up...you need no representation
[18:51] <FreedomStar> It certainly seems like in the wizarding worldthere aren't as many restrictions as there are on the muggles
[18:51] <DumbleDebbie> lol cp
[18:51] <Poet> Harry lucked out though and Dumbledore sort of acted as lawyer for him
[18:51] <SoonerGryffindor> well, we all know how fair the judicial system is now dont we? wink
[18:51] <An_Eternal_Night> Maybe they don't need lawyers with items like pensieves and veritaserum, and spells like legilimency
[18:51] <FreedomStar> For instance it didn't seem like fred and george had to do mroe than get a premise for their shop
[18:51] <fawkes28> maybe they believe in taking responsibility for your own actions in the wizarding world
[18:51] <Expelliarmas> First kill all the lawyers ... to let the rights of the oppressed suffer
[18:51] <futureweasley> that's a valid point fawkes
[18:51] <FreedomStar> they didn't need to get a business charter or anything. So I think that everyone is his/her own lawyer and can call their own witnesses to the stand.
[18:52] <Expelliarmas> DD comes closest to being a defense lawyer for Harry in OOTP
[18:52] <cbm> Harry had to prove he was innocent, not fudge prove he was guilty
[18:52] <Aislinn> it does not seem to be a fair and unbiased judicial system
[18:52] <SoonerGryffindor> who needs representation when there is always fairness and fair trials?
[18:52] <Alexk> you never see them use veritaserum, or pensieves
[18:52] <FreedomStar> yep.
[18:52] <Expelliarmas> but he also wrote a lot of the wizarding laws
[18:52] <cloudpic> Dumbledore seemed to speak for Harry before the Wiz..... maybe whoever feels they can?
[18:52] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie
[18:52] <Aislinn> at least what we've viewed of it
[18:52] <harryfreak359> yeah..
[18:52] <Poet> Interesting idea FreedomStar
[18:52] <futureweasley> magical lawyers would be able to use the imperius on a jury, and trials could have unfair outcomes
[18:52] <FreedomStar> It certainly doesn't seem like there's much protocal
[18:52] <An_Eternal_Night> well, we haven't seen very many trials, Alex
[18:52] <FreedomStar> protocol*
[18:52] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, but this particular defense attorney was leading a witness to lie
[18:52] <ProfessorJackson> i think the idea that it is based on a medieval system has merit
[18:52] <cloudpic> Yeah... the argument of despots... if you are innocent you don't need a lawyer.. . Ha!
[18:52] <fawkes28> makes you wonder how many people in azkaban are innocent
[18:52] <Aislinn> no, but we also know they don't even always hold trials
[18:52] <cloudpic> balderdash
[18:52] <Expelliarmas> nah, they wouldn't be able to use the Imperius curse, opposing counsel could do it as well
[18:53] <Aislinn> and we did see at least 3 different ones
[18:53] <FreedomStar> True, just look at Sirius
[18:53] <FreedomStar> oh that's right!
[18:53] <DumbleDebbie> dueling imperious curses
[18:53] <futureweasley> Sirius had no trial
[18:53] <FreedomStar> the trials in the pensieve!
[18:53] <futureweasley> no representation whatsoever
[18:53] <Aislinn> right smile
[18:53] <FreedomStar> I completely forgot about those. They didn't seem to be represented
[18:53] <FreedomStar> so it's more of a 'fend for yourself''
[18:53] <Aislinn> no they didn't
[18:53] <cloudpic> More like a Congressional Hearing here in the U.S.
[18:53] <SoonerGryffindor> but evidentally not everyone gets a trial
[18:53] <FreedomStar> the Ministry seems quite confident that it's always right :\
[18:53] <futureweasley> The aurors seem to perform a specialized type of magical law enforcement–they go after Dark wizards/witches. What skills would you think would be most important for them?
[18:53] <Val_Halla> And let's not forget Hagrid being carted off to Azkaban in CoS
[18:53] <Alexk> Even if you used a pensieve, you'd have to be careful choosing whose memories you're using
[18:53] <Expelliarmas> no one was represented at all; the judge was asking the questions
[18:53] <Aislinn> that's an interesting way of looking at it cloud
[18:53] <nympheart> DADA skill
[18:54] <DumbleDebbie> all of the above
[18:54] <Poet> Stealth
[18:54] <SoonerGryffindor> DADA
[18:54] <fawkes28> i think they need what harry has: instinct
[18:54] <Aislinn> defnitely DADA
[18:54] <nympheart> nice fawkes
[18:54] <cbm> DADA
[18:54] <Expelliarmas> having a lot of nerve and courage would be most important
[18:54] <FreedomStar> Well there were a bunch of skills that Mcgonagall listed
[18:54] <nympheart> guts
[18:54] <futureweasley> definitely fawkes
[18:54] <FreedomStar> DADA, Potions, Charms
[18:54] <ProfessorJackson> courage and "moral fiber"
[18:54] <DumbleDebbie> yeah DAD would be key
[18:54] <An_Eternal_Night> courage, though that's not really a skill
[18:54] <FreedomStar> Transfiguration
[18:54] <DumbleDebbie> right Freedom
[18:54] <futureweasley> nerves of steel, and the boots to match
[18:54] <Poet> They also need some unsavory contacts - like Willy Widdershins
[18:54] <Poet> And Dung
[18:54] <FreedomStar> and then Tonks gave us a little bit in book 5
[18:54] <fawkes28> yes, definitely courage
[18:54] <Aislinn> but they also need to know other things like transfiguration, lots of charms and potions
[18:54] <DumbleDebbie> lol Future
[18:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I like to think of them more as a special forces type of agency
[18:54] <fawkes28> and a desire for justice
[18:54] <FreedomStar> she said something about Stealth and Tracking, and was it Disguise?
[18:54] <Expelliarmas> they need to be well-rounded
[18:55] <cbm> honesty
[18:55] <fawkes28> right, expel
[18:55] <nympheart> yup freedom
[18:55] <Aislinn> yes freedom
[18:55] <cloudpic> I like that fawkes28!
[18:55] <AnnaNoe> constant vigilance!
[18:55] <SoonerGryffindor> Dung as an auror?
[18:55] <Expelliarmas> and excell at every type of magic
[18:55] <ProfessorJackson> a certain disregard for the rules
[18:55] <futureweasley> yes Anna!
[18:55] <nympheart> lol anna
[18:55] <harryfreak359> defensive spells, the ability to move around undected, and a knowledge in healing spells
[18:55] <cloudpic> Love it, Anna!
[18:55] <Alexk> aurors would have to have skills in manipulation too
[18:55] <FreedomStar> kind of like the FBI.
[18:55] <FreedomStar> or MI5
[18:55] <Val_Halla> or CIA
[18:55] <Expelliarmas> no, Dung couldn't be an auror, he's always out for himself; but he is a snitch
[18:55] <FreedomStar> (Scotland Yard?)
[18:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that analogy freedom
[18:55] <harryfreak359> yes, kind of like the FBI biggrin
[18:55] <FreedomStar> What about Dawlish though?
[18:55] <cloudpic> 007
[18:55] <FreedomStar> Dumbledore said he got all Outstandings, right?
[18:56] <Poet> No Dung as an unsavory contact that you could get info out of ;)
[18:56] <SoonerGryffindor> yes he did
[18:56] <futureweasley> I see them more like the massad (Israeli Secret Service)
[18:56] <harryfreak359> yea
[18:56] <Expelliarmas> what about Dawlish, no one said he wasn't a good auror; but who could take out DD?
[18:56] <FreedomStar> Dumbledore is quite an exception in his own category
[18:56] <Aislinn> that's true expie
[18:56] <SoonerGryffindor> true. DD pwnd Dawllish
[18:56] <An_Eternal_Night> twice smile
[18:56] <futureweasley> they aren't as "in the spotlight" was the FBI in the US
[18:56] <fawkes28> siriusly
[18:56] <cloudpic> I refuse to answer your question Expell.....
[18:56] <Poet> You need lots of secrecy sensors, and a poker face
[18:56] <Expelliarmas> DD owned everyone in that room
[18:56] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[18:57] <DumbleDebbie> lol cp
[18:57] <Expelliarmas> DD when he wasn't ill could take out anyone he wanted
[18:57] <nympheart> think outside the box
[18:57] <DumbleDebbie> only b/c he let him, cp wink
[18:57] <nympheart> style
[18:57] <fawkes28> nice, poet
[18:57] <cloudpic> True
[18:57] <futureweasley> Prior to the start of the second wizarding war, it would seem Percy would work his way up that Ministry. Do you think he’ll have a harder time with Scrimgeour as Minister or not? Why?
[18:57] <Expelliarmas> he would have been an auror's auror
[18:57] <AnnaNoe> mcgonagall said, to be accepted for Auror training, you have to a minimum of five N.E.W.T.s
[18:57] <Alexk> No, he never fails to suck up
[18:57] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a lot Anna
[18:57] <cloudpic> He's lost his in
[18:57] <nympheart> i think he'll have a hard time because of the crouch thing
[18:57] <Aislinn> I think he'll still move his way up
[18:57] <cloudpic> Could be Alexk
[18:57] <FreedomStar> I think Scrimgeour will have a little more sense but not much
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[18:57] <AnnaNoe> heh
[18:57] <futureweasley> I think that Percy has been seen as "silly" now. Lots of stuff happened right under his nose
[18:57] <Aislinn> it is still a beaureaucracy
[18:57] <Val_Halla> No, there's always a place for brown-nosers in Gov't
[18:58] <cbm> I think after the war he will thought of as Fudge's man, that will hurt
[18:58] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Mr M
[18:58] <harryfreak359> I think he'll move up still
[18:58] <fawkes28> i think that both of them will use each other to get what they want
[18:58] <FreedomStar> I think it'll be awhile before Percy moves up
[18:58] <DumbleDebbie> he's so far down the ladder it won't matter, acutally Perce already ingratiated himself with Scrim
[18:58] <Aislinn> and Scrimgeour still follows some of the same tendencies
[18:58] <Expelliarmas> I hope Percy gets bounced into the Dept. of Muggle Liaison, where Arthur was
[18:58] <Poet> Scrimgeour seems more controlling, and seems to favor those that are aurors rather in other areas of the Ministry perhaps
[18:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I thik that as long as the MoM values Harry, then Percy has a chance of moving up'
[18:58] <DumbleDebbie> hey Mr M
[18:58] <FreedomStar> is he still working for the Minister?
[18:58] <FreedomStar> I agree Sooner
[18:58] <nympheart> that's true Debbie
[18:58] <futureweasley> he's definitely an eager to achiever
[18:58] <harryfreak359> I do too Expel
[18:58] <nympheart> he already has sucked up
[18:58] <cloudpic> Poor Muggles if Percy is moved there, Expell!
[18:58] <fawkes28> percy is in a position of power with his connections to harry it may allow him to move up or it may get him fired
[18:58] <FreedomStar> Scrimgeour might take up Percy to get some inside info on Harry
[18:58] <harryfreak359> heheheh
[18:58] <DumbleDebbie> or killed fawkes
[18:58] <Poet> So rather than pencil pushers moving up toward Minister, I see law enforcement types moving up under Scrimgeour
[18:58] <Aislinn> he is a functionary, and it will depend more on his dept. head than on the Minister of Magic
[18:58] <cbm> too eager to achieve, at great cost to himself
[18:58] <FreedomStar> I also think that Percy is in a good position to take the fall.
[18:59] <cloudpic> That sounds right Freedomstar
[18:59] <futureweasley> Percy will have no insider info
[18:59] <Expelliarmas> Scrimgeour is a more skillful user than Fudge, so he'll keep percy around because arthur is around and Harry loves arthur
[18:59] <futureweasley> he's been shunned
[18:59] <SoonerGryffindor> right. This could be dangerous time for Percy
[18:59] <ProfessorJackson> right
[18:59] <FreedomStar> It's just like how Scrimgeour used Percy to speak to Harry at christmas
[18:59] <Aislinn> he's not been shunned by the Ministry FW
[18:59] <futureweasley> no, by his family
[18:59] <Aislinn> Scrimgeour used him to go to the Burrow
[18:59] <cbm> Why hasn't he apologized to his family?
[18:59] <MrMcGonagall> People like Percy almost always seem to find a way to survive and rise to the top - like cream or scm, depending on your point of view.
[18:59] <Aislinn> ah right
[18:59] <Expelliarmas> because it's harder to be wrong than to be right, cbm
[18:59] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[19:00] <futureweasley> Percy knows no more than the common wizard
[19:00] <FreedomStar> because as dumbledor esaid, it's easy to forgive others for being wrong than right
[19:00] <cbm> And that was the only reason he went
[19:00] <SoonerGryffindor> funny and true
[19:00] <futureweasley> in regards to Harry
[19:00] <Aislinn> I think that's exactly right Mr M
[19:00] <FreedomStar> Percy is also very gullible
[19:00] <FreedomStar> but mostly because he puts so much stock into the rules
[19:00] <fawkes28> percy has intelligence but not common sense
[19:00] <cloudpic> Percy is smart... it's just that he's also a tad smarmy
[19:00] <futureweasley> right fawkes
[19:00] <ProfessorJackson> just a tad?
[19:00] <futureweasley> booksense, no street sense
[19:00] <Expelliarmas> Percy is very ambitious, he saw his dad as an anchor and threw him under the bus
[19:00] <FreedomStar> Well like the common witch or wizard Percy tends to believe what's in the papers and believe the Ministry
[19:00] <FreedomStar> it's hard for us to believe that
[19:00] <Aislinn> a perfect combination for a beaureaucrat, cloudpic
[19:00] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he will continue to move up
[19:00] <cbm> He never had anyone like harry to change him like Hermione did
[19:00] <Expelliarmas> Percy can change allegiances very easily, so he'll suck up and move up
[19:00] <FreedomStar> but we've been watching this whole issue from Harry's POV
[19:01] <MrMcGonagall> whoa, major lag. I'm heading out then back in.
[19:01] <fawkes28> and i think he will do anything to move up - which scares me
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[19:01] <futureweasley> The Department of Mysteries employs “Unspeakables” performing various types of research. Do you think there are other wizarding scientists or researchers? What do you think they research?
[19:01] <nympheart> but somewhere in there Percy's a Weasley and a Gryffindor
[19:01] <FreedomStar> and Harry is in the know; he gets more inside information than most people and is connected closely with DD
[19:01] <cloudpic> Sadly, true, Aislinn..... but perhaps he can learn from his mistakes
[19:01] <FreedomStar> I do think there are others
[19:01] <cloudpic> The Veil! ;)
[19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> flamel and DD come to mind
[19:01] <FreedomStar> But they're probably more independent researchers
[19:01] <Aislinn> I do think there are others besides those who work at the Ministry
[19:01] <ProfessorJackson> Yes...
[19:01] <Poet> Other researchers, but i think they research for their own business ventures
[19:01] <FreedomStar> Flamel came to my mind too
[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> love, time, death, space...
[19:01] <ProfessorJackson> like the research Flamel did
[19:01] <nympheart> finding new spells
[19:01] <FreedomStar> There might be companies and business not associated with the Ministry
[19:01] <Aislinn> It sounded like Luna's Mum did research
[19:01] <fawkes28> i think there are others in other countries too and we have no idea what they are up to
[19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> also I think the whole DoM is an experimental/study area
[19:01] <nympheart> like Luna's mom
[19:02] <futureweasley> everything...love, knowledge, the future
[19:02] <An_Eternal_Night> I bet there are magiherbologists and magizoologists
[19:02] <FreedomStar> we just dont' see them much
[19:02] <Aislinn> and I doubt she worked for the Ministry
[19:02] <cloudpic> The Twins do research
[19:02] <Val_Halla> LV is a researcher, too, if you think about it
[19:02] <nympheart> alchemy
[19:02] <Alexk> the locked door
[19:02] <Expelliarmas> yes, and I'm sure they don't all work at the MoM; Luna's mom died while experimenting with a spell
[19:02] <cloudpic> Lots of it
[19:02] <DumbleDebbie> they're researching 'future'? wink
[19:02] <fawkes28> i think there has to be...there are many books in the library on different subjects and they don't all come from the unspeakables
[19:02] <nympheart> lol
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[19:02] <DumbleDebbie> yes, the twins do, quite well
[19:02] <ProfessorJackson> I'm sure there is private sector research
[19:02] <Aislinn> right fawkes
[19:02] <fawkes28> lol
[19:02] <Expelliarmas> LV researched all sorts of Dark Magic, VH
[19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> now if someone can explain to me what they wre studying in the planet room I would be happy
[19:02] <fawkes28> flamel for instance
[19:02] <harryfreak359> yeah...DD did researching (sorry if anyone mentioned that...I left for a bit), and he didn't work for the DoM
[19:03] * Expelliarmas places a call to Jo to ask Sooner's question
[19:03] <nympheart> something with astrology?
[19:03] <Aislinn> astronomy, just like the kids learn at school, but advanced
[19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:03] <Val_Halla> Maybe divination, sooner
[19:03] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:03] <DumbleDebbie> the space-time continuum Sooner wink
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[19:03] <An_Eternal_Night> I like to think that the Solar system is completely contained in that room, ;)
[19:03] * SoonerGryffindor still hasnt figured out the purpoe of that room and it bugs her
[19:03] <FreedomStar> O.o
[19:03] <cbm> The planet room was cool, they destroyed pluto and it was no longer a planet
[19:03] <Aislinn> lol
[19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:03] <FreedomStar> Maybe that's why pluto lost status as a planet
[19:03] <Val_Halla> lol
[19:03] <Poet> oh my!
[19:04] <cbm> grea forsite smile
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[19:04] <FreedomStar> because JKR said so
[19:04] <nympheart> one of you imperiused my computer didn
[19:04] <fawkes28> it's hard because we only know what harry knows
[19:04] <DumbleDebbie> maybe they can run it backwards and see where the stars were when certain events happened
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> lol nymph
[19:04] <Aislinn> so, Jo is a seer
[19:04] <An_Eternal_Night> that's proof!
[19:04] <An_Eternal_Night> haha
[19:04] <Expelliarmas> I hope they aren't using the centaurs in there, they'll never get any answers
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie
[19:04] <DumbleDebbie> 'Mars is flying by my left ear'
[19:04] <nympheart> mars is bright
[19:05] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:05] <futureweasley> How do people work their way up the ladder at the Ministry? Is it talent or kissing up? Does it depend on the job?
[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> *hehehehehe*
[19:05] <harryfreak359> I think it depends on the job and the person
[19:05] <DumbleDebbie> some of both, likely
[19:05] <futureweasley> I think it's a combination of both...like in real life
[19:05] <Poet> Talent and long life
[19:05] <fawkes28> i think it's a little bit of both
[19:05] <FreedomStar> I think it depends on the department
[19:05] <ProfessorJackson> I gotta go...bye everyone!
[19:05] <FreedomStar> and the job
[19:05] <cloudpic> I suspect it depends on the tone set from the top down in any given year
[19:05] <FreedomStar> bye PJ!
[19:05] <futureweasley> bye Prof
[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> bye professor
[19:05] <cloudpic> Bye Prof!
[19:05] <Aislinn> I think it depends on the job
[19:05] <harryfreak359> bye
[19:05] <Expelliarmas> In Percy's case ... loads of kissing up--they'll be announcing their engagement any day now!
[19:05] <DumbleDebbie> probably depends on the supervisor
[19:05] <cbm> KISSING UP or who you know
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[19:05] <nympheart> depends on the person in charge and how good others are at brown nosing
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[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Mr M
[19:05] <cloudpic> I agree nympheart
[19:05] <Aislinn> wb Mr M
[19:06] <futureweasley> if could also be predetermined by the stars...just ask Firenze
[19:06] <fawkes28> i think to get in positions it's who you know but i think to say there you need some talent
[19:06] <Poet> Yes, whatever you do - find a way to impress the person incharge of your dept or other depts
[19:06] <cloudpic> There are certainly competent people working there.... they'd have to have been hired by someone!
[19:06] <Expelliarmas> maybe Slughorn connections
[19:06] <cloudpic> LOL....you're possibly right, Expell
[19:06] <Expelliarmas> could be
[19:06] <Poet> I forgot about that Expelliarmas
[19:06] <fawkes28> the world is a stage - we are constantly performing and constantly "on"
[19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> well, if your name is Harry Potter, then you will be able to name your job, but I guess most of them work hard
[19:07] <MrMcGonagall> People get ahead by all sorts of means - sometimes talent, sometimes connections, sometimes a little bit of both.
[19:07] <nympheart> and luck
[19:07] <cloudpic> Rather like the Real World ;)
[19:07] <DumbleDebbie> sometimes it's just being in the right place at the right time
[19:07] <FreedomStar> i agree cloudpic
[19:07] <harryfreak359> yeah
[19:07] <Val_Halla> I'm sure there must also be some politics involved
[19:07] <fawkes28> oh and also our choices!
[19:07] <Expelliarmas> I'm not at all sure what Umbridge's talent was, though; but if she came with attachments, she'd be a Hoover
[19:07] <futureweasley> the parallels are unmistakable
[19:07] <cloudpic> Yay! fawkes28
[19:07] <DumbleDebbie> true Fawkes
[19:07] <nympheart> lol expel
[19:08] <DumbleDebbie> lol Expie
[19:08] <Val_Halla> pro-muggle like Arthur or favorable to Purebloods like Fudge
[19:08] <fawkes28> lol we can never forget about those choices
[19:08] <cloudpic> Perhaps they needed a fly catcher? (umbridge hire)
[19:08] <futureweasley> What kind of preparation do you think the healers need to be able to perform their jobs?
[19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> everything
[19:08] <Poet> They do seem to have apprentices
[19:08] <nympheart> like muggle residents
[19:08] <futureweasley> O's in NEWT potions
[19:08] <fawkes28> i think they need to apprentice with someone
[19:08] <DumbleDebbie> long apprenticeship
[19:08] <Expelliarmas> they have to have years of additional study, like an apprenticeship
[19:08] <Aislinn> healers seem to need all kinds of magic
[19:08] <MrMcGonagall> I think they're some of the most highly skilled people in the wizarding world.
[19:08] <An_Eternal_Night> yes, they need it all
[19:08] <Aislinn> definitely potioins
[19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> probably everything BUT dada
[19:09] <Aislinn> but also charms
[19:09] <nympheart> DADA too
[19:09] <futureweasley> I think they need DADA
[19:09] <nympheart> countering dark spells
[19:09] <MrMcGonagall> Although I would think DADA could also be important.
[19:09] <An_Eternal_Night> they might need DADA for curses
[19:09] <Alexk> taking less time to brew de-petrifying potions
[19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> true
[19:09] <harryfreak359> potions, charms, transiguration...well everything
[19:09] <cloudpic> Seems likely they'd study everything... judging from the "floors" at the hospital
[19:09] <DumbleDebbie> but they would need a theoretical understanding of DADA to diagnose problmes
[19:09] <futureweasley> who knows what is going to come through the doors at St Mungo's
[19:09] <Expelliarmas> I think for this war, they'd also need to know something about the Dark Arts, madam pomfrey was not DD's first choice for help
[19:09] <FreedomStar> I think everything
[19:09] <Aislinn> they do need an understanding of DADA to counteract curses
[19:09] <fawkes28> they have to be verr bright
[19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> herbology for sure
[19:09] <Poet> They also need creativity
[19:09] <FreedomStar> Definitely transfiguratino for those little mishaps
[19:09] <Aislinn> yes sooner
[19:09] <DumbleDebbie> gp Expie
[19:09] <FreedomStar> transfiguration*
[19:09] <An_Eternal_Night> "stitches" is definitely creative
[19:09] <futureweasley> herbology and potions compliment each other quite nicely...
[19:09] <MrMcGonagall> There are some things that even Madam Pomfrey hasn't seen before, and she works in a place with lots of wizarding accidents.
[19:10] <FreedomStar> hehe
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I would think they would also need to knnow all about CoMC as well
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[19:10] <fawkes28> and they dont need divination for sure
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Anna
[19:10] <nympheart> wb anna
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> good one gawkes
[19:10] <cloudpic> wbAnna
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> *fawkes
[19:10] <FreedomStar> oh yeah,that's right sooner
[19:10] <AnnaNoe> hey ya sru
[19:10] <AnnaNoe> sry*
[19:10] <MrMcGonagall> I bet Healers specialize, just as Muggle health care workers do.
[19:10] <Aislinn> certainly how to deal with injureies caused by magical creatures
[19:10] <FreedomStar> lol MrM I was just gonna say that
[19:10] <futureweasley> right Aislinn
[19:10] <fawkes28> me too
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> everything BUT divination and history of magic
[19:10] <FreedomStar> I think there are specialists for each subject, like MrM just said
[19:10] <DumbleDebbie> yeah Mr M, there were differed wards
[19:11] <FreedomStar> well, everything as in the Core Classes, right?
[19:11] <fawkes28> good point, mr. mcg
[19:11] <Aislinn> yes, I agree with the specialties
[19:11] <Expelliarmas> well, there were different wards at st. mungos so it wouldn't be surprising if they had specialties
[19:11] <FreedomStar> plus CoMC
[19:11] <DumbleDebbie> *different
[19:11] <An_Eternal_Night> Is there a wizarding veterinary hospital?
[19:11] <Alexk> that makes me wonder, do magical healers know how to heal the bigger human diseases?
[19:11] <FreedomStar> umm
[19:11] <MrMcGonagall> It's called "Hagrid's Hut."
[19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> good question AEN
[19:11] <Val_Halla> are there family healers or are they all at St Mungo's
[19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL Mr M
[19:11] <FreedomStar> lol MrM!
[19:11] <An_Eternal_Night> haha, very true
[19:11] <Aislinn> Ron took Scabbers to that creatures shop in Diagon Alley
[19:11] <Alexk> or have they not found a cure like humans?
[19:12] <fawkes28> i wonder if there are different levels of healers like doctors - attendings, residents, interns, etc
[19:12] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr M
[19:12] <Alexk> *muggles
[19:12] <Aislinn> and they had a tonic for him
[19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> I think so fawke
[19:12] <Expelliarmas> or do they even succumb to the typical Muggle illnesses?
[19:12] <nympheart> i bet there are fawkes
[19:12] <nympheart> they have their own illnesses
[19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> dang it! stupid lag has me making a lot of typos
[19:12] <DumbleDebbie> wizards don't seem susceptible to common Muggle diseases Alexk
[19:12] <MrMcGonagall> The lag is evil.
[19:12] <Aislinn> I think they have an apprenticeship arrangement fawkes
[19:12] <cbm> sooner, I have the same problem
[19:12] <futureweasley> Given the number of professional Quidditch teams present in the ((UK), doesn't it seem like most of the House players would be recruited to play once done with school?
[19:12] <Expelliarmas> arthur's healer, Pi?, was an apprentice
[19:13] <MrMcGonagall> Well, I think they are susceptible. The cure is just simpler.
[19:13] <DumbleDebbie> Jo said James' parents died of a wizarding disease, and the older wizards are much older than old Muggles
[19:13] <Val_Halla> They do get colds - remember to=he pepperup potion
[19:13] * fawkes28 hugs the booth so it stops lagging for everyone
[19:13] <An_Eternal_Night> Muggles can't get dragon pox can they? or is it called something else for them?
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> you would think
[19:13] <cbm> YES
[19:13] <Poet> Yes, I'd think so.
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> I always wondered about that as well
[19:13] <cloudpic> Oliver is playing pro
[19:13] <nympheart> it doesn't seem like it though
[19:13] <futureweasley> Wood was recruited by Puddlemere United, right?
[19:13] <DumbleDebbie> but how long is a Quidditch career?
[19:13] <nympheart> he's the only one we've heard of
[19:13] <Expelliarmas> Oliver was a backup keeper
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, but Olier is the only one
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[19:13] <MrMcGonagall> I wonder how long-term a career in Quidditch is.
[19:13] <nympheart> but there's so many teams...
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> good point Debbie"
[19:13] <Poet> Especially with so few magical schools
[19:13] <nympheart> it should ballance
[19:13] <DumbleDebbie> if they play for many decades that would take a lot of spots for a long time
[19:13] <Expelliarmas> It would seem that it depends on the player and whether they want to go pro?
[19:13] <futureweasley> I think that a Quidditch career can be quite lengthy
[19:13] <fawkes28> i think they would be recruited
[19:14] <Val_Halla> The pros probably take occasional walk-ons
[19:14] <cloudpic> Maybe you play but not pro.
[19:14] <harryfreak359> I think that they could have a chance to play professionally
[19:14] <cbm> If they have long careers, they would need fewer recruits
[19:14] <nympheart> Ludo wasn't that old when he retired
[19:14] <An_Eternal_Night> Quidditch is dangerous, so the career might also be very short
[19:14] <cloudpic> Maybe they have other jobs
[19:14] <fawkes28> and if not by a school league maybe there is a recreational league for youth maybe those who are homeschooled
[19:14] <MrMcGonagall> They do seem to have a kind of celebrity status similar to Muggle athletes.
[19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> and evidentally you can play and go to school full time (Krum)
[19:14] <Expelliarmas> Ludo took a beating, so maybe the position makes your impacts the longevity
[19:14] <Poet> Good point - Quidditch dangerous but with magical healers they can have longer careers
[19:14] <futureweasley> maybe we'll have this question answered when Krum comes back to Hogwarts as DADA teacher
[19:14] <nympheart> but he was really good too
[19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> lol future
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> lol future
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> we'll be sure to ask him
[19:15] <fawkes28> future knows all
[19:15] <fawkes28> lol
[19:15] <nympheart> like that dd isn't a great guy
[19:15] <Val_Halla> I was wondering if Quidditch matches will even be held in book 7 (pro)
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[19:15] <nympheart> Jo said no more quidditch
[19:15] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo is done with Quidditch.
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> i don't think so Val
[19:15] <Poet> aw
[19:15] <cbm> Jo said not
[19:15] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think so Val, unless its in the epilogue
[19:16] <Val_Halla> I meant pro matches
[19:16] <harryfreak359> I dont think so either
[19:16] <futureweasley> What would a professional Quidditch player do once they are past their playing prime?
[19:16] <harryfreak359> *sniff*
[19:16] * DumbleDebbie is going to ignore that DD insult
[19:16] <FreedomStar> I don't think Quidditch is going to play a part
[19:16] <Aislinn> no time
[19:16] <FreedomStar> ummm
[19:16] <DumbleDebbie> wink
[19:16] <fawkes28> maybe coach
[19:16] <cbm> Luna announced what she said was the last one she was going to write
[19:16] <nympheart> Ludo went to Magical Games and Sports
[19:16] <An_Eternal_Night> In the MN/Leaky interview, she said that the Luna match was the last time we'd see quidditch...
[19:16] <Expelliarmas> If you're Ludo ...
[19:16] <An_Eternal_Night> very sad
[19:16] <Val_Halla> join the ministry or sell used broomsticks
[19:16] <MrMcGonagall> I can just see Harry kicking back and relaxing, going to watch a Quidditch match when there are horcruxes to be found.
[19:16] <Poet> But the wizard world isnt' done with Quidditch wink
[19:16] <FreedomStar> Oh that's right, Bagman went into the Ministry
[19:16] <futureweasley> maybe peddle ice cream for Fortescue
[19:16] <Expelliarmas> how about develop quidditch products?
[19:16] <Alexk> celebrity endorsements
[19:16] <harryfreak359> commentate...become coaches...join the ministry in the magical sports dept.
[19:16] <DumbleDebbie> Minister of Sports
[19:16] <nympheart> advertise quiddtich stuff
[19:16] <fawkes28> or find another profession
[19:16] <Poet> They could go work for the dept of magical games and sports
[19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie, whatever it was that Bagman did
[19:16] <FreedomStar> Do Quidditch players need to fit some sort of criteria?
[19:16] <DumbleDebbie> if they make $$$ they could just kick back and relax
[19:16] <ststevens> retire
[19:17] <fawkes28> become madaam hooch?
[19:17] <Expelliarmas> or catch dragons
[19:17] <Poet> They could create new. better equipment
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> that too smile
[19:17] <nympheart> i like that fawkes
[19:17] <An_Eternal_Night> Advertise new brooms? get signed on by companies?
[19:17] <nympheart> I wonder if she ever played
[19:17] <FreedomStar> Can they go back to school after playing Professional Quidditch because if they can they can go study something and go into a different field.
[19:17] <fawkes28> that's a good one, expel
[19:17] <futureweasley> the possibilities are vast...I don't get the impression that all Quidditch players are "geniuses"....
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> give private flying lessons?
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[19:17] <DumbleDebbie> oo, yeah, Madam Hootch
[19:17] <futureweasley> hi Kelazma
[19:17] <harryfreak359> is this working?
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Kel
[19:17] <Aislinn> hey kel
[19:17] <Expelliarmas> lol fw
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[19:17] <futureweasley> yep harry
[19:17] <FreedomStar> hello Kel!
[19:17] <Aislinn> yes harryfreak
[19:17] <An_Eternal_Night> Hi Kelazma
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I see you hf
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[19:18] <harryfreak359> yeah....it just went a little weird for a sec
[19:18] <Poet> No college, so not much of a chance for changeing career except with a private tutor
[19:18] <Kelazma> Heya. I made it into a chat...and on accident
[19:18] <nympheart> it does that to me sometimes
[19:18] <Expelliarmas> it seems the bulk of the Slytherin team aren't that bright; but the other players seemed like they could do anything else they wanted
[19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Kel
[19:18] <Poet> Funny Kel
[19:18] <futureweasley> glad to have you, Kel
[19:18] <Aislinn> I agree expie
[19:18] <harryfreak359> yeah Expe
[19:18] <nympheart> grr after that project I can't type anymore
[19:18] <harryfreak359> Expel*
[19:18] <futureweasley> We know there are various businesses in the wizarding community. How much magic, do you suppose, is involved in running a sweetshop, a restaurant, a pub, or an inn?
[19:18] * SoonerGryffindor wonders how any of those Slytherins are going to support themselves
[19:18] <nympheart> not a whole lot
[19:18] <harryfreak359> they are probably already rich, Sooner
[19:18] <FreedomStar> Lots of magic
[19:18] <DumbleDebbie> rich daddies Sooner
[19:19] <An_Eternal_Night> good question
[19:19] <Poet> I think people who have businesses have the most diverse abilities
[19:19] <FreedomStar> I bet a bunch of householdy things
[19:19] <MrMcGonagall> I imagine it varies.
[19:19] <Aislinn> I imagine there is a fair amount in the creation of every flavor beans
[19:19] <nympheart> just basic stuff unless you make the things you sell
[19:19] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a good question
[19:19] <FreedomStar> but it'd be so normal to most people
[19:19] <Expelliarmas> I think it's more about management than magic
[19:19] <cloudpic> Hmmm... I'd not thought of that!
[19:19] <futureweasley> I think inventory, maintenance and accounting would be a cinch with magic
[19:19] <fawkes28> i think they need to be a person who can multi-task even in the wizarding world
[19:19] <Alexk> fred and george didnt' have pro experience
[19:19] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, R&D for sweets would take a lot of talent
[19:19] <cloudpic> Perhaps they create the sweets and ice cream, etc. as Molly cooks in her kitchen?
[19:19] <FreedomStar> Well you could hire a few maids and maintenance people
[19:19] <harryfreak359> probably a lot for somethings
[19:19] <SoonerGryffindor> like I think it takes quite a bit for WWW, but not so much for Florean
[19:19] <FreedomStar> and they would probably use magic to clean the rooms, wipe off the tables, serve food, etc.
[19:19] <fawkes28> if you mess up your spells, things could get pretty ugly in your business
[19:19] <harryfreak359> lag lag lag
[19:19] <FreedomStar> Are there any wizarding equivalents of restaurants?
[19:19] <Kelazma> And Crabbe and Goyle could always work in collections
[19:20] <FreedomStar> besides places like the Three Broomsticks
[19:20] <Poet> Business owners need good people skills, charms and potions abilities I'd think
[19:20] <Aislinn> molly seems to use magic a lot in cooking, so I would think the same would be true in a wizard restaurant
[19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> well, there is food served at the Inns
[19:20] <Alexk> The burrow, mmm soup!
[19:20] <Expelliarmas> yea, FS, floreans, and leaky serve food
[19:20] <futureweasley> The Leaky Cauldron serves food
[19:20] <DumbleDebbie> true Aislinn
[19:20] <MrMcGonagall> I imagine there must be restaurants of some kind. Didn't what'shername go out for a romantic dinner with Stubby Boardman?
[19:20] <futureweasley> Madam Puddifoot's
[19:20] <cbm> I think it is like Molly's kitchen, even though it can be done without magic, they still use it.
[19:20] * harryfreak359 is now even more hungry
[19:20] <DumbleDebbie> and also there'd be magic in the upkeep of any wizarding place
[19:20] <FreedomStar> I agree cbm
[19:20] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M
[19:20] * SoonerGryffindor is thinking of a magical equivalent to Starbucks
[19:20] <fawkes28> i would think it would be hard to have a restaurant if it's not in hogsmeadeor diagon alley considering people all don't live in the same area
[19:21] <nympheart> lol sooner
[19:21] <FreedomStar> would it be kind of like how they ordered at the Yule Ball?
[19:21] <harryfreak359> lol Sooner
[19:21] <FreedomStar> or normal like how we do it?
[19:21] <An_Eternal_Night> Do restaurants other than the Hogwarts kitchens have house-elves to make their food?
[19:21] <FreedomStar> Or like how the elves send the food up to the tables during mealtimes?
[19:21] <FreedomStar> hehe
[19:21] <nympheart> *cries* I'm going to have arthritis at 25!
[19:21] <Expelliarmas> yeah, fawkes, but the adults could apparate
[19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> magical coffee--- yum!
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[19:21] <Kelazma> Well it would have to be in a wizard area. And we don't really know how many other areas there are that have a high wizarding concentration.
[19:21] <Aislinn> they probably do tend to be mostly in diagon alley and Hogsmead fawkes
[19:21] <Val_Halla> All a restaurant needs is a grate and a place to apparate
[19:21] <futureweasley> yes, fawkes, but they apparate or floo or fly there
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[19:21] <DumbleDebbie> a magical refilling mug Sooner?
[19:21] <futureweasley> it would be the equivalent of use driving there
[19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie
[19:21] <Expelliarmas> ohh, there's an idea DD
[19:21] <fawkes28> but i dont think they would get much business if they were elsewhere
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[19:22] <cbm> got to go, bye, have a good evening!
[19:22] <futureweasley> no, you're right...I agree
[19:22] <DumbleDebbie> hey HF
[19:22] <An_Eternal_Night> bye cmb
[19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> bye cbm
[19:22] <nympheart> bye
[19:22] <futureweasley> goodnight cbm
[19:22] <Expelliarmas> bye cbm
[19:22] <DumbleDebbie> bye cbm
[19:22] <MrMcGonagall> I think there just hasn't been that much of an occasion for us to visit wizard restaurants thus far.
[19:22] <harryfreak359> bye cbm
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[19:22] <An_Eternal_Night> *cbm
[19:22] <futureweasley> Madam Malkin's Robes for All Occasions provides robes. In HBP, she manually pinned Draco’s dark green robes. She accidently nailed him with a pin. How much magic do you think she uses as to her shop?
[19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Mr M
[19:22] <Val_Halla> The leaky cauldron opens on a muggle street but the muggles can't see it
[19:22] <Expelliarmas> lol, I enjoyed Draco getting pinned
[19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh
[19:23] <Kelazma> I wonder how many women work in St. Mungos. I mean there seemed to be a few.
[19:23] <Aislinn> she probably hems with magic, after she has pinned
[19:23] <DumbleDebbie> maybe the sewing is done magicaly but not the fitting
[19:23] <cloudpic> Maybe in the actual sewing?
[19:23] <fawkes28> good question
[19:23] <futureweasley> I think she takes pride in her seamstress abilities...and she could be a squib
[19:23] <Poet> Yeah, a magical sewing machine
[19:23] <harryfreak359> I think she uses it to cclean and sewing and stuff
[19:23] <MrMcGonagall> I'm not sure I would want to be fitted with magical flying pins.
[19:23] <fawkes28> i think she may enjoy doing some of the work
[19:23] <cloudpic> Again...like Molly's cleaning/cooking
[19:23] <FreedomStar> I agree MrM
[19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> I think she just enjoyed getting Draco with the pin
[19:23] <Kelazma> Something to take pride in
[19:23] <DumbleDebbie> I hope she enjoyed pinning Malfoy
[19:23] <Expelliarmas> well, I don't think she's a squib, fw, she had her wand
[19:23] <cloudpic> Yes...as an artist, sort of
[19:23] <harryfreak359> no she performs magic Future
[19:23] <Kelazma> and she gets to stab Draco
[19:23] <An_Eternal_Night> exactly, sooner!
[19:23] <fawkes28> it may get too dull if she is just saying the spells
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[19:23] <ststevens> it would kind of be pointless to use magic to put in pins
[19:23] <Poet> hi carpe
[19:23] <futureweasley> I didn't recall the wand thing
[19:23] <futureweasley> sorry
[19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> Hi Carpe
[19:24] <futureweasley> hi CD
[19:24] <Aislinn> hi carpe
[19:24] <An_Eternal_Night> hello Carpe
[19:24] <fawkes28> hi carpe
[19:24] <nympheart> she didn't stab him
[19:24] <Poet> I agree ststevens , certain things are easier by hand
[19:24] <nympheart> she touched the mark
[19:24] <Kelazma> heheh
[19:24] <DumbleDebbie> I didn't remember that either Future
[19:24] <Expelliarmas> yeah, fw, she used it to vacuum the dust of the robes Draco threw to the floor
[19:24] <CarpeDiem> Evening all!
[19:24] <Expelliarmas> heya carpe
[19:24] <futureweasley> ah, I remember now
[19:24] <Kelazma> Well then she must have pinned him in fanfic ;)
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[19:24] <cloudpic> Hi, carpediem
[19:24] <harryfreak359> hi carpe
[19:24] <FreedomStar> hi gryffindelle
[19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome gryffindelle
[19:24] <harryfreak359> hi gryff
[19:24] <FreedomStar> hi carpe
[19:24] <Aislinn> hey gryff
[19:24] <cloudpic> Hey, gryff
[19:24] <FreedomStar> smile
[19:24] <Val_Halla> I keep thinking of Ollivander and his tape measure
[19:24] <gryffindelle> hi
[19:24] <An_Eternal_Night> hi gryffindelle
[19:24] <gryffindelle> smile
[19:24] <FreedomStar> me too Val
[19:24] <MrMcGonagall> Especially in fitting garments, there are just some things you need to feel with your hands.
[19:25] <nympheart> the tape measure's a good one
[19:25] <futureweasley> Borgin & Burkes provide, erm, difficult to find items for a select clientele (Arthur is not a typical customer). Tom Riddle, Jr., worked there as a clerk, acquiring items for the store. What kind of magic or magical knowledge would one need to work there?
[19:25] <cloudpic> Loved Ollivander's tape measure
[19:25] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:25] <Kelazma> the tape measure is a hocrux hehe
[19:25] <Kelazma> sorry.
[19:25] <gryffindelle> whats the question?
[19:25] <DumbleDebbie> Dark Arts
[19:25] <Expelliarmas> the worst sort of magic
[19:25] <cloudpic> Dark Arts
[19:25] <nympheart> know the items
[19:25] <Val_Halla> lol Kel
[19:25] <MrMcGonagall> That's a field where History of Magic might come in useful.
[19:25] <Kelazma> You'd have to be able to hut people badly.
[19:25] <Aislinn> probably curse breaking
[19:25] <fawkes28> dark magic
[19:25] <Expelliarmas> manipulation
[19:25] <Poet> Recognizing dark charms on objects
[19:25] <DumbleDebbie> true Mr M
[19:25] <nympheart> how they work and how they're used
[19:25] <Kelazma> and you have to know how to count
[19:25] <SoonerGryffindor> all the bad stuff
[19:25] <futureweasley> I think you'd need a well rounded understanding of all magic
[19:25] <harryfreak359> Dark Arts definitely...and a knowledge of curse breaking
[19:25] <Alexk> tr probably stole some of the stuff and said that the shipment didn't come through
[19:25] <Kelazma> and high customer service skills
[19:25] <fawkes28> potions perhaps
[19:25] <Kelazma> heh
[19:25] <cloudpic> And a missing sense of ethics.
[19:25] <MrMcGonagall> Knowledge of magical antiquities, how to find out hidden powers of objects.
[19:26] <futureweasley> history of magic
[19:26] <nympheart> true cloudpic
[19:26] <Expelliarmas> yeah, MrM, that might be one of the few fields were HoM would come in handy
[19:26] <DumbleDebbie> true cp
[19:26] <FreedomStar> I don't think you'll need too many magical skills to work in Borgin and Burkes
[19:26] <CarpeDiem> I think a deep knowledge of history would be important as well. You'd need to be able to identify real artifacts from anything fake.
[19:26] <futureweasley> and Hogwarts equivalent to "Shop" class
[19:26] <FreedomStar> but rather good people skills
[19:26] <FreedomStar> well
[19:26] <cloudpic> Finally! Binns is useful!
[19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> soooo.... you might find some future DE's in NEWT level HoM?
[19:26] <FreedomStar> maybve not good people skills
[19:26] <nympheart> that's right freedom
[19:26] <FreedomStar> but know how to talk to people
[19:26] <nympheart> people were disappointed in Tom
[19:26] <FreedomStar> and ow to appeal to 'em
[19:26] <cloudpic> Oooo...
[19:26] <FreedomStar> how*
[19:26] <cloudpic> "handling" DE's....yeah... very good people skills...
[19:27] <DumbleDebbie> so they don't expect a talented person to take a job at B&B
[19:27] * SoonerGryffindor wonders if there even is NEWT level HoM
[19:27] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:27] <fawkes28> hehe
[19:27] <Alexk> i don't think you'd need people skills, the people in knockturn alley are pretty nasty and weird
[19:27] <Expelliarmas> they don't expect a talented person to be a clerk anywhere
[19:27] * MrMcGonagall wonders about NEWT HoM, too.
[19:27] <DumbleDebbie> there is Sooner, but just for dead students
[19:27] <An_Eternal_Night> only Hermione would be crazy enough to take it..
[19:27] <DumbleDebbie> wink
[19:27] <harryfreak359> I am sure there are wizard historians
[19:27] <MrMcGonagall> lol, Debbie!
[19:27] <fawkes28> i do think it helps that tom had people skills for his job
[19:27] <Expelliarmas> she probably is taking that NEWT class
[19:27] <MrMcGonagall> History is very useful in a number of fields, but it's rarely a career.
[19:27] <CarpeDiem> Especially when allocating the items. Locating them would be only the first step, aquiring them is a different game all together. But Tom was always a charming young man wasn't he?
[19:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Tom with people skills? laugh


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[19:28] <cloudpic> Oh, definitely...Tom good at manipulation and "charm"
[19:28] <fawkes28> a salesperson needs to be able to interact with people well in order to be successful
[19:28] <MrMcGonagall> Well, a flatterer, anyway.
[19:28] <Expelliarmas> Tom had people skills, he could be very charming
[19:28] <cloudpic> when he wishes
[19:28] <harryfreak359> well he was very good at charming people
[19:28] <Poet> hmm
[19:28] <futureweasley> do you really think the B&B are at all selective that their shop workers have a HoM NEWT?
[19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> true
[19:28] <Alexk> maybe using the imperius curse on customers would be a useful skill in knockturn alley
[19:28] <cloudpic> Not...genuine
[19:28] <fawkes28> we he did before he became a different person
[19:28] <CarpeDiem> Fairly easy to charm someone when you can read their mind I think smile
[19:28] <futureweasley> Fred and George turned their considerable skills initially to a joke shop and then to creating items to assist the slackers at the MoM who can’t conjure simple shied charms. They seemed surprised by their lack of magical skills. How else could they expand their business?
[19:28] <FreedomStar> I don't think that B & B were too ipcky
[19:28] <nympheart> I think there's history with unspeakables though too
[19:28] <fawkes28> he was good looking too
[19:28] <FreedomStar> *picky
[19:28] <DumbleDebbie> i think they get someone with no scruples FW
[19:28] <FreedomStar> They can expand into a wide range of things
[19:28] <cloudpic> If I were an Auror.... I'd seek them out!
[19:28] <gryffindelle> make special items for the order?
[19:29] <Expelliarmas> brb
[19:29] <FreedomStar> but I think they could definitely do a few household products
[19:29] <cloudpic> After the war...
[19:29] <nympheart> make charmed items for convenience
[19:29] <DumbleDebbie> more protective gadgets
[19:29] <cloudpic> Wide open!
[19:29] <harryfreak359> they could do well in a lot of different areas for products
[19:29] <Aislinn> I think that they will continue to expand their defensive line
[19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> really, I think that is to show that they are really deficient in DADA
[19:29] <ststevens> perhaps some offensive equipment
[19:29] <nympheart> other stuff like Remembralls
[19:29] <fawkes28> by not selling items to the dark wizards
[19:29] <MrMcGonagall> I bet Gred and Forge could come up ith some pretty nifty magical defensive devices.
[19:29] <DumbleDebbie> lol Fawkes
[19:29] <cloudpic> Not just jokes... but clever devices to make life easier.... Wizarding ipods??
[19:29] <FreedomStar> lol cp
[19:29] <CarpeDiem> Just the idea of being able to bind a spell to an object would come in handy. Imagine the type of defensive devices you could come up with...a utility belt of item even! smile
[19:29] <harryfreak359> lol cloudpic
[19:29] <nympheart> batman
[19:30] <MrMcGonagall> I'm just picturing Voldemort winding up with a rubber chicken wand.
[19:30] <Val_Halla> portable daydream = ipod
[19:30] <Aislinn> true carpe!
[19:30] <DumbleDebbie> that'd be great Mr M
[19:30] <fawkes28> i think they are very intelligent and could easily come up with something very powerful
[19:30] <cloudpic> What a lovely idea Mr.McG!!
[19:30] <futureweasley> they are so ingenuitive...I'm sure that using their creativity and imagination will give them more than they themselves can even handle
[19:30] <Expelliarmas> defensive alarms for around the house
[19:30] <gryffindelle> lol mr m
[19:30] <futureweasley> Given that the second wizarding war is clearly underway, were you surprised by the success of Fred and George? Why or why not?
[19:30] <DumbleDebbie> like Moody's trashcans Expie? wink
[19:30] <MrMcGonagall> There's no limit to the Weasley twins' creativity.
[19:31] <FreedomStar> not really surprised
[19:31] <nympheart> not really
[19:31] <Aislinn> not at all
[19:31] <FreedomStar> most of their customers were students
[19:31] <harryfreak359> No, not at all
[19:31] <nympheart> those two are amazing
[19:31] <MrMcGonagall> No, people need that kind of release.
[19:31] <DumbleDebbie> nope, not surprised
[19:31] <ststevens> no
[19:31] <An_Eternal_Night> I wan't surprised
[19:31] <FreedomStar> and the students don't get the news as much as adults do
[19:31] <DumbleDebbie> they're talented
[19:31] <AnnaNoe> nope
[19:31] <ststevens> the world will need some laughs
[19:31] <Aislinn> they were quite successful with their inventions in school
[19:31] <harryfreak359> people needed that cheering up
[19:31] <Val_Halla> Not at all surprised - people need an escape
[19:31] <gryffindelle> not really, because people need something to keep them from getting depressed
[19:31] <DumbleDebbie> true ststevens
[19:31] <FreedomStar> I mean I only knew about 9/11 because my dad was watching the news
[19:31] <cloudpic> No. I've believed the twins would "rule" from the start... they're clever and think "outside the box"
[19:31] <Poet> Nah
[19:31] <Aislinn> and as Harry said people need to be able to laugh
[19:31] <nympheart> not that i ever wrote a filk about their shop or anything
[19:31] <fawkes28> and they also have motivation which is important
[19:31] <MrMcGonagall> Especially when everyone else in the wizarding world is so glum.
[19:31] <Poet> right
[19:31] <fawkes28> true, aislinn
[19:32] <CarpeDiem> They are much smarter than they like to let on. The shop allowed them to concentrate on something they were passionat about. They are just as talented as their other siblings. It was great to see them shine.
[19:32] <Poet> I agree
[19:32] <Aislinn> exactly carpe
[19:32] <MrMcGonagall> Yeah, talk about doing what you were born to do.
[19:32] <harryfreak359> Yeah carpe
[19:32] <nympheart> MrMcG, don 't use that phrase
[19:32] <Aislinn> and their defensive magical objects are going to be incredibly useful to the wizarding community as well
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[19:32] <Poet> I excepted them to be successful, but was happily surprised by the extent
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[19:33] <Expelliarmas> I just hope they stop selling to undesirable clients like Draco
[19:33] <fawkes28> they didnt fit into the mold of school and it happens that way for some people
[19:33] <nympheart> they can afford to lose profit to people like Draco
[19:33] <MrMcGonagall> They're the ultimate entrepreneurs.
[19:33] <Alexk> *Voldemort bursts into FandG's shop, confetti and balloons fall down, " Guess what, you're our millionth customer!"*
[19:33] <harryfreak359> yeah MrMcG, definitely
[19:33] <cloudpic> It'll be interesting to see what they come up with next
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[19:34] <CarpeDiem> Agreed. I imagine if they were to team up with a talented Auror (moody comes to mind - not sure if it would be possible though) they would have ideas coming left and right. The ministry and public would benifit greatly.
[19:34] <MrMcGonagall> lol, Alex
[19:34] <cloudpic> Love it Alexk!
[19:34] <DumbleDebbie> lol alexk
[19:34] <FreedomStar> Alex: --> O.o
[19:34] <gryffindelle> lol alexk
[19:34] <harryfreak359> *snorts*
[19:34] <MrMcGonagall> rotfl
[19:34] <FreedomStar> hmm, that face doesn't have quite the same impression as it does on MSN
[19:34] <futureweasley> Bill Weasley works as a curse breaker for Gringotts. What kind of skills do you think he picked up at Hogwarts to prepare him for this work? What skills do you think he would have needed to pick up on his own?
[19:34] <cloudpic> And the confetti makes him melt! "I'm melting...."
[19:34] <FreedomStar> Well being headboy probably helped
[19:34] <MrMcGonagall> DADA, definitely.
[19:34] * cloudpic is sorry...carried away
[19:34] <harryfreak359> DADA for sure
[19:34] <FreedomStar> He definitely is able to stand up to the goblins
[19:34] <fawkes28> charms
[19:35] <ststevens> lol
[19:35] <nympheart> History of Magic
[19:35] <Val_Halla> Transfiguration
[19:35] <MrMcGonagall> I imagine a lot of the same skills as an auror.
[19:35] <DumbleDebbie> yep, lots of different skills from school, plus a good dose of 'on the job' training
[19:35] <gryffindelle> gobbledook
[19:35] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M
[19:35] <harryfreak359> and probably charms and transfiguration
[19:35] <FreedomStar> I concur w/ MrM
[19:35] <futureweasley> I think charms and DADA were the biggies
[19:35] <fawkes28> arthimacy perhaps
[19:35] <cloudpic> DaDA certainly would involve breaking curses
[19:35] <FreedomStar> lol gryffindelle
[19:35] <FreedomStar> he could just ask Crouch
[19:35] <Aislinn> probably very similar skills
[19:35] <CarpeDiem> Yep, I think charms and DADA would be a great starting point but I believe the goblins have a wealth of knowledge that most are not able to learn from. There's a nother chance for history to help out too.
[19:35] <nympheart> ancient runes
[19:35] <ststevens> bye people
[19:35] <Poet> He'd need to learn about Egyptian history more than what they learned in school
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[19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Bill had 12 owls, didnt her?
[19:36] <harryfreak359> yeah
[19:36] <Expelliarmas> HoM would come in handy; really he'd have to excel at everything; and have a lot of nerve
[19:36] <FreedomStar> bye ststevens
[19:36] <DumbleDebbie> yep, he did
[19:36] <harryfreak359> I think so
[19:36] <FreedomStar> did he?
[19:36] <nympheart> magic originated in Egypt, it would be there
[19:36] <cloudpic> Maybe having that "sense" of magic... like Dumbledore in the cave?
[19:36] <Aislinn> no, percy had 12 sooner
[19:36] <MrMcGonagall> I think a curse-breaker is somewhat less action-oriented. It's more like a forensic expert.
[19:36] <futureweasley> he is a genius
[19:36] <nympheart> yes cloud
[19:36] <fawkes28> i wonder if he was in newt HoM smile
[19:36] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, that'd be very valuable cp
[19:36] <FreedomStar> Isn't a curse-breakers job to go and break curses on old tombs and relics and find..stuff?
[19:36] <MrMcGonagall> Not that being a curse-breaker could be boring.
[19:36] <FreedomStar> Sounds a bit like archaeology to me
[19:36] <FreedomStar> what about Arithmancy?
[19:36] <cloudpic> and bring back the "goods" to the goblins
[19:36] <FreedomStar> what is arithmancy anyways?
[19:36] <Val_Halla> I don't know mr M - Bill seems an action kind of guy
[19:36] <futureweasley> yes, freedom...I think that will be invaluable in bOOK 7
[19:37] <CarpeDiem> Yep, very Indiana Jones-like if you ask me Freedom smile
[19:37] <Poet> yeah
[19:37] <Aislinn> yes freedom
[19:37] <harryfreak359> Hehehe...I think it does involve a little action...but not as much as an auror
[19:37] <FreedomStar> lol
[19:37] <Alexk> i hope Bill didn't help Voldy break into vault 317
[19:37] <Expelliarmas> Anicent Runes?
[19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fawkes
[19:37] <FreedomStar> Bill could def. be a modern day indiana jones
[19:37] <cloudpic> No way, Alex
[19:37] <FreedomStar> well the magical equivalent
[19:37] <futureweasley> oooh ancient ruins
[19:37] <MrMcGonagall> Arithmancy is the study of the magical properties of numbers, isn't it?
[19:37] <An_Eternal_Night> arithmancy is sort of like divination with numbers, I think (not sure)
[19:37] <nympheart> he was in Egypt then Alex
[19:37] <FreedomStar> I think at the time Bill was working in Egypt
[19:37] <FreedomStar> ah, thanks for clearing that up you guys
[19:37] <futureweasley> What do you think made the job of curse breaker attractive to Bill?
[19:37] <FreedomStar> (I had always wondered what Arithmancy was)
[19:37] <Aislinn> yes it is AEN
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[19:38] <nympheart> excitement
[19:38] <Val_Halla> glamour
[19:38] <Poet> I think he's cool in himself
[19:38] <nympheart> he seems the adreneline high type
[19:38] <DumbleDebbie> the unpredictibility
[19:38] <fawkes28> it keeps you on your toes and can be excited
[19:38] <Aislinn> there is an essay on it in Scribbulus, if you want to learn more smile
[19:38] <AnnaNoe> wanted feel important
[19:38] <futureweasley> I think it was adventurous
[19:38] <fawkes28> *exciting
[19:38] <AnnaNoe> to feel *
[19:38] <DumbleDebbie> is he paid well? I'd thnk so
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[19:38] <CarpeDiem> Thanks Aislinn smile
[19:38] <nympheart> thank you Aislinn
[19:38] <Expelliarmas> is this the weasley with the earring?
[19:38] <FreedomStar> welcome break4nobody!
[19:38] <Poet> The chance for action
[19:38] <FreedomStar> yes
[19:38] <An_Eternal_Night> I would like to learn more, arithmancy sounds very interesting
[19:38] <DumbleDebbie> yes Expie
[19:38] <Val_Halla> yes exp
[19:38] <cloudpic> Yes, expell
[19:38] <futureweasley> hi breakobody
[19:38] <CarpeDiem> I think he enjoys the excitement and the danger of it all
[19:39] <FreedomStar> I think the chance to travel might appeal to him
[19:39] <Poet> Travel, solving problems....
[19:39] <break4nobody> hi future
[19:39] <FreedomStar> he seems like the kind of guy who needs to be constantly moving and doing something
[19:39] <nympheart> that too freedom
[19:39] <FreedomStar> and bringing home lots of treasure is an added bonus smile
[19:39] <MrMcGonagall> I think curse-breakers are very well-paid, and it's an exotic kind of career.
[19:39] <Expelliarmas> he's described as "cool" not at all like Percy
[19:39] <Aislinn> I agree, carpe, it is probably the adventure of it that is appealing to him
[19:39] <fawkes28> he is definitely not the office job type
[19:39] <cloudpic> And being a Weasley...he wouldn't mind working with the goblins (open-minded)
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[19:39] <CarpeDiem> Good point FreedomStar. Getting out of England may have appealed to him as well.
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[19:39] <DumbleDebbie> wb Sooner smile
[19:39] <Aislinn> good point cloudpic
[19:39] <futureweasley> l think that Bill needed to do something that was out of the country. He loved his family, but Gringotts offered an opportunity to get out of the Weasley house
[19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks
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[19:40] <nympheart> tough being the oldest
[19:40] <Aislinn> Bill loves his family FW
[19:40] <nympheart> i know i want to leave
[19:40] <futureweasley> I said he does!
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[19:40] <MrMcGonagall> I would think curse-breakers need to be pretty inventive, too. Thinking outside the box.
[19:40] <fawkes28> he needed to fly the coop for awhile
[19:40] <Poet> Maybe it was stable work - yes a chance to try something new
[19:40] <futureweasley> but there were babies at home...and he was ready to do for himself
[19:40] <Aislinn> I doubt his reason had to do with escaping his family
[19:40] <Poet> It's a unusual job
[19:41] <Val_Halla> And not have Molly breathing down his neck
[19:41] <CarpeDiem> Poor Mrs. Weasly must have had an awful time when she learned what he was going to be doing!
[19:41] <Aislinn> I think the job just held a lot of appeal
[19:41] <DumbleDebbie> true CD, she's worry all the time I'm sure
[19:41] <nympheart> I think he needed to get away from all the younger siblings
[19:41] <MrMcGonagall> It's rather dashing and romantic and mysterious.
[19:41] <futureweasley> there were other things about it that were appealing, as well
[19:41] <CarpeDiem> Or she may have known from the start. I wonder if he was getting into things all the time growing up?
[19:41] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn
[19:41] <fawkes28> well i think also it was a good chance to be independent and learn about life on his own
[19:41] <cloudpic> I agree Aislinn.... I don't think any Weasley was "fleeing" the family home... just off to prove themselves
[19:42] <harryfreak359> except percy
[19:42] <Aislinn> exactly cloudpic
[19:42] <nympheart> none of you are the eldest child in your family are you?
[19:42] <Expelliarmas> well, cloudic, maybe percy
[19:42] <MrMcGonagall> I am.
[19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I am
[19:42] <fawkes28> i am
[19:42] <CarpeDiem> I am
[19:42] <DumbleDebbie> I am, nymph
[19:42] <FreedomStar> I am
[19:42] <Aislinn> lol
[19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:42] <DumbleDebbie> lol
[19:42] <harryfreak359> Well...I am... but I am the only one laugh
[19:42] <futureweasley> I am the only child, and I still find myself needing to get away
[19:42] <Aislinn> lots of eldests heree
[19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> looks lke most of us are actually
[19:42] <FreedomStar> lol harryfreak
[19:42] <DumbleDebbie> HF biggrin
[19:42] <An_Eternal_Night> I think I'm the only one who isn't...
[19:42] <harryfreak359> me too Futuer
[19:42] <Val_Halla> I'm not
[19:42] <FreedomStar> So y'all know that most times it's the eldeset that needs to set an example, according to the 'rents
[19:42] <DumbleDebbie> AEN, little sibling to all smile
[19:42] <futureweasley> Gringotts is run by Goblins. Aside from curse breakers, what kind of work do they have at the bank itself? What kind of magic would be necessary for such work?
[19:42] <Alexk> I think the idea of knowing all the very secret government-like stuff was what got him into it
[19:43] <Aislinn> I'm not
[19:43] <FreedomStar> Definitely accountant-type people
[19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh. I so want to know more about Goblins
[19:43] <FreedomStar> to keep track of all the $$$
[19:43] <cloudpic> Security is a big deal there!
[19:43] <Aislinn> Dragon keepers
[19:43] <CarpeDiem> nymph, what is your point with that? What effect would him being eldest have on his job?
[19:43] <FreedomStar> and, if the rumors of dragons are true, dragon keepers
[19:43] <FreedomStar> lol Aislinn, great minds think alike
[19:43] <DumbleDebbie> good language skills? arithmancy?
[19:43] <nympheart> wanting to leave the younger siblings
[19:43] <Val_Halla> I don't see the Goblins allowing any non-Goblins access to piles of money
[19:43] <Aislinn> smile
[19:43] <CarpeDiem> Ah! I see
[19:43] <MrMcGonagall> It seems like there are a lot of restrictions on goblins doing magic. I bet they rely on wizard employees to design magical defenses, etc.
[19:43] <nympheart> Charlie did it too
[19:43] <FreedomStar> teehee Val
[19:44] <Aislinn> I disagree, but that is a totally different topic nymph
[19:44] <DumbleDebbie> My youngest siblings are my best friends
[19:44] <FreedomStar> I don't see if there is much need for non-goblins to be a part of running Gringotts
[19:44] <fawkes28> i would think there would be lots of paperwork to keep track of
[19:44] <cloudpic> Managing the underground carts was magical
[19:44] <Poet> hmm
[19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I want to also know how they got to be in charge of the entire monetary system
[19:44] <DumbleDebbie> would you need charms to lock up the bank?
[19:44] <FreedomStar> I want to know who handles the $$$ of the deceased
[19:44] <Poet> I think so
[19:44] <DumbleDebbie> good question Sooner
[19:44] <Val_Halla> Goblins can't have wands but they can definitely do magic
[19:44] <Alexk> I think just the way they are makes them good bankers, not trusting anyone
[19:44] <FreedomStar> like when Sirius died he had a will and left everything to Harry
[19:44] <Expelliarmas> don't the goblins have any magic of there own?
[19:44] <futureweasley> I think it would have to be a BIG charm, Debbie
[19:44] <nympheart> at the moment, there's two of mine who haven't grown out of being brats but back to this...
[19:44] <fawkes28> that is a good question, sooner
[19:45] <Expelliarmas> *their
[19:45] <FreedomStar> do the goblins take care of the will or something else?
[19:45] <DumbleDebbie> I thnk goblins have big magic
[19:45] <CarpeDiem> I wonder if the goblins have an extrordinary attention to detail.
[19:45] <FreedomStar> maybe the goblins got to the $$$ first biggrin
[19:45] <DumbleDebbie> but it's held in check w/o wands
[19:45] <Aislinn> I think they have their own magic
[19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they do as well
[19:45] <Aislinn> just as the house elves do
[19:45] * MrMcGonagall agrees with Debbie.
[19:45] <futureweasley> I think so
[19:45] <nympheart> but not the same as the elves
[19:45] <AnnaNoe> i think they just sit there and Intimidate people all day long, just daring them to try and steal or whatever
[19:45] <Poet> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! A copy of this chat will be posted later in the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. The poll for next week's WWW topic closes tomorrow evening. You can vote in this thread: http://www.leakylounge.com/Topic-Poll-10-25-Www-Cha-t34511.html
[19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Anna
[19:45] <CarpeDiem> Perhaps they manage their money the best and therefore not only amassed the most of any race but were sought after as protecters too
[19:45] <Poet> *This chat will continue in the Study Hall of the Chamber of Chat http://www.chamberofchat.com/chat/enter.asp
[19:45] <harryfreak359> oh wow...already this far?
[19:45] <DumbleDebbie> right Aislinn
[19:46] <cloudpic> They'd scare me, Anna!
[19:46] <futureweasley> Given that Hagrid was wrongly expelled from Hogwarts before he could complete his education, he essentially learned as an apprentice. What skills would have been necessary for his work as a Game Keeper? Do you think he needed to perform magic to do it?
[19:46] <Alexk> they definitely have their own magic, that goblin in SS opened vault 317 without a key or a wand
[19:46] <Expelliarmas> well that warm welcome on their doors would scare anyone
[19:46] <DumbleDebbie> lol Anna
[19:46] <AnnaNoe> they scare me to..its ok
[19:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I htink Hagrid's heart is his biggest asset
[19:46] <cloudpic> LOL
[19:46] <FreedomStar> I don't think he needed much skills as a Game Keeper
[19:46] <MrMcGonagall> He had a love for magical creatures, and that would have been very important.
[19:46] <AnnaNoe> hah
[19:46] <DumbleDebbie> well, he dos seem to perform magic quite often
[19:46] <nympheart> yes magic, but not advanced
[19:46] <futureweasley> I agree Sooner
[19:46] <FreedomStar> his affection for the school and creatures would be what he needed most
[19:46] <fawkes28> i think his size helps perform his duties
[19:46] <Aislinn> I think he probably worked with the former CoMC teacher
[19:46] <FreedomStar> he takes care of the grounds, right? and the animals?
[19:46] <DumbleDebbie> I think DD tutored him after he was expelled
[19:46] <FreedomStar> i agree fawkes
[19:47] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid used magic [with DD looking the other way]
[19:47] <cloudpic> Hagrid seems to respect all life... and he's able to empathize with each creature.
[19:47] <Val_Halla> He seems to use magical things like potions
[19:47] <SoonerGryffindor> He loves all of the creatures and it helps
[19:47] <futureweasley> basic magic, and a heart of gold. Care and compassion for those who don't have a voice and are often overlooked
[19:47] <Aislinn> yes cloud
[19:47] <harryfreak359> I agree with err...most of you
[19:47] <DumbleDebbie> herbology is probably impt with animals
[19:47] <MrMcGonagall> He's the consummate veterinarian.
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[19:47] <cloudpic> And wilderness manager
[19:47] <nympheart> but Sprout took care of the Willow
[19:47] <MrMcGonagall> Hagrid, Forest Ranger.
[19:47] <futureweasley> yes he is MrMcG
[19:47] <fawkes28> nicely said, future
[19:48] <CarpeDiem> I think training from the Herbology and Magical Creatures teachers would have helped him considerablly. They are jobs that could be done with the least amount of magic necessary. It's a very good role for him
[19:48] <Poet> hmm
[19:48] <Aislinn> wb tanaqui
[19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[19:48] <Poet> Experience is often the best teacher, and a motivation - a love for the subject
[19:48] <Tanaqui> thanks...are we in the middle of a question?
[19:48] <nympheart> a bit of charms too
[19:48] <Alexk> I think DD liked the fact that Hagrid is only ever honest, and he's oblivious to people's alterior motives
[19:49] <futureweasley> Stubby Boardman was a singer. Heathcote Barbary a guitarist for the Weird Sisters. What kind of magical skills are necessary to be a singer or a musician?
[19:49] <Alexk> DD knew he could always trust hagrid
[19:49] <MrMcGonagall> I'd trust Hagrid with my life, too.
[19:49] <AnnaNoe> maybe he had to use magic to rough up the animals a bit, if they started to go crazy...aka try to attack him.
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[19:49] <nympheart> charm instruments
[19:49] <futureweasley> hi lizzie
[19:49] <fawkes28> i think talent like in our world
[19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL.. I love Stubby Boardman
[19:49] <DumbleDebbie> depends on how much you have to magically filter your voice wink
[19:49] <fawkes28> hi lizzie
[19:49] <Poet> Hi lizzie
[19:49] <Poet> Yes, charms and the normal musical ability
[19:49] <MrMcGonagall> I don't know that there are a lot of magical skills necessary. I think music is one of those things that bridges the wizard and Muggle worlds.
[19:49] <Expelliarmas> wouldn't you still have to know music before charming an instrument?
[19:49] <FreedomStar> DD, if that were the case then there'd be no more good music in the wizarding world sad
[19:49] <Lizzieangel90> Hello! smile what are we talking about?
[19:49] <Tanaqui> oo--stubby might need to look good...as well as sound good...if he is really like his name...
[19:49] <Poet> Wizard jobs
[19:50] <Poet> Muscians right now
[19:50] <futureweasley> I love that there are Wizard bands
[19:50] <nympheart> lol tanaqui
[19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> well, there must be musically talented wizard folk as well as muggles
[19:50] <FreedomStar> hey lizzieangel, we're talking about the skills necessary to hold up a job as a musician in the wizarding world
[19:50] <An_Eternal_Night> I was disappointed when JKR dispelled the rumor that Regulus Black was Stubby Boardman...
[19:50] <Aislinn> "music, a magic beyond all that we do here"
[19:50] <CarpeDiem> I think it is similar to the muggle world. Creativity, desire and a fair amount of talent are all important
[19:50] <futureweasley> I love the whole idea of the WWN
[19:50] <CarpeDiem> Wonderful quote Aislinn smile
[19:50] <fawkes28> nice, aislinn
[19:50] <Poet> Aw, yes
[19:50] <DumbleDebbie> i love that quote
[19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I want to see a Wizard MTV in the next book
[19:50] <Alexk> *so true
[19:50] <nympheart> lol
[19:50] <MrMcGonagall> Celestina Warbeck - what a hoot.
[19:50] <FreedomStar> do Wizards have radios then if there's a WWN?
[19:50] <futureweasley> she is a riot
[19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be great
[19:51] <fawkes28> i'm sure jo will get right on it
[19:51] <futureweasley> Phlegm's reaction to her is even better
[19:51] <FreedomStar> lol
[19:51] <nympheart> I felt bad for Molly
[19:51] <An_Eternal_Night> oh yes, ahahaa
[19:51] <Aislinn> me too nymph
[19:52] <futureweasley> Is being a Death Eater a job? Does Lord Voldemort pay a salary? If it’s not a job, then what is it?
[19:52] <FreedomStar> Not a job
[19:52] <DumbleDebbie> hobby?
[19:52] <Aislinn> I don't think he does pay them
[19:52] <FreedomStar> I think it's more like a union
[19:52] <futureweasley> I think LV lets you live...that's the "salary"
[19:52] <Tanaqui> lol...voldey paying wages.....
[19:52] <Expelliarmas> it's a calling--of the worst kind
[19:52] <DumbleDebbie> recreation?
[19:52] <Aislinn> I think its like the ku klux klan
[19:52] <nympheart> no
[19:52] <Val_Halla> Not a job but I'll bet he slips money to those he especially appreciates
[19:52] <FreedomStar> it's a union!
[19:52] <Alexk> i think satisfying lv is supposed to be their "payment"
[19:52] <DumbleDebbie> very much so Aislinn
[19:52] <fawkes28> how would he pay them anyway? i dont think he makes a salary
[19:53] <nympheart> lol freedom
[19:53] <CarpeDiem> I don't think it's a job. It's more like an endenturement. You are in it for life. There is not an out.
[19:53] <Lizzieangel90> I don't think it's a job, i think it's quite like a "mob" family type thing... once your in your in and they take care of their own
[19:53] <futureweasley> it's very similar, Aislinn
[19:53] * harryfreak359 snorts at the idea of LV paying his death eaters
[19:53] <MrMcGonagall> It does allow the DE's to indulge their evil streak, but it's hardly a job.
[19:53] <DumbleDebbie> I think they're 'paid' by being allowed to live
[19:53] <Tanaqui> i would say it's like a membership club--elks, moose, kiwanis...
[19:53] <Poet> It's a common interest group
[19:53] <nympheart> I like the KKK thought
[19:53] <futureweasley> lol Lizzie...the mob
[19:53] <Val_Halla> I agree Lizzie
[19:53] <MrMcGonagall> I agree - it's like the Mafia, and not the Melissa Anelli kind.
[19:53] <Tanaqui> something to put on your resume
[19:53] <futureweasley> "go to the mattresses"
[19:53] <Expelliarmas> they also get "paid" by doing nasty things to folks
[19:53] <fawkes28> there is no quitting that "club"
[19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that LV thinks it should be a priveledge, not a job
[19:53] <CarpeDiem> Unions vote though...this is more of a dictatorship. I think mafia or gang organization would better describe it
[19:54] <cloudpic> Except for "rewards" like lovely silver .....hands. eww
[19:54] <DumbleDebbie> true Expie, they get their kicks
[19:54] <harryfreak359> yes...Mafia is good
[19:54] <Aislinn> right expie
[19:54] <Poet> Yeah, Tanaqui
[19:54] <Expelliarmas> very much like a kkk, even have masks or hoods
[19:54] <DumbleDebbie> and he probably doles out praise for a job well done
[19:54] <DumbleDebbie> ew cp
[19:54] <nympheart> don't forget the punishments
[19:54] <Alexk> as we saw in gof
[19:54] * SoonerGryffindor is now wondering where they buy their DE masks
[19:54] <cloudpic> No crucio .... this week
[19:54] <futureweasley> "he sleeps with the fishes"
[19:54] <MrMcGonagall> I think Voldemort gives them the opportunity they desire.
[19:54] <fawkes28> right debbie and they are all desparate for his praise
[19:54] <futureweasley> Aside from being a Death Eater, what did Lucius Malfoy do for a living before getting a cushy cell in Azkaban?
[19:54] <DumbleDebbie> B&B Sooner wink
[19:54] <Expelliarmas> and their own tattoos and signs, hmmm a bit gang like
[19:54] <Val_Halla> Very likely LV's followers support him and other who they intimidate
[19:54] <CarpeDiem> Sooner - good point. And that's how they recruit. From the outside it looks like a place of honor or prestige. Once you join though you soon find out the truth. You are trapped.
[19:55] <Aislinn> I think he had "old money"
[19:55] <DumbleDebbie> lobbyist
[19:55] <cloudpic> Lived on huge fortune... inherited
[19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> that's probably it Debbie
[19:55] <fawkes28> kissing up at the MoM
[19:55] <Aislinn> and didn't do a darn thing
[19:55] <MrMcGonagall> I think he was living on his fortune.
[19:55] <Val_Halla> Yes, old money
[19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with Aislinn
[19:55] <An_Eternal_Night> He was a school governor, wasn't he?
[19:55] <Tanaqui> do for a living? raised his son to be a jerk....
[19:55] <AnnaNoe> didn't he collect marbles?!! i heard somewhere he did...maybe..
[19:55] <MrMcGonagall> Man of leisure.
[19:55] <nympheart> investments maybe
[19:55] <cloudpic> Spreading his money around the MoM
[19:55] <DumbleDebbie> me too Mr M
[19:55] <Lizzieangel90> awwww... poo.... i have to go... sad have a wondeful chat everyone!
[19:55] <Expelliarmas> Lucius, "work"? It's beneath him
[19:55] <harryfreak359> Err...I do't think he had a job...just trying to get the ministry and the school to do things way
[19:55] <DumbleDebbie> bye lizzie
[19:55] <Aislinn> bye lizzie
[19:55] <harryfreak359> bye lizzie
[19:55] <futureweasley> I think he ignored his son and bossed his wife around
[19:56] <An_Eternal_Night> bye lizzie
[19:56] <CarpeDiem> I'm sure he was a paid "advisor" and sat on many "boards" for those he had power over.
[19:56] <fawkes28> made people's lives miserable
[19:56] <cloudpic> Bye Lizzie
[19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> LV's chief executive officer?
[19:56] <futureweasley> lol fawkes, that he did
[19:56] <nympheart> i think he beat his son and bossed his wife around
[19:56] <Val_Halla> i agree carpe
[19:56] *** Lizzieangel90 has quit [Bye]
[19:56] <fawkes28> and bossed around dobby
[19:56] <CarpeDiem> Night Lizzieangel
[19:56] <MrMcGonagall> Lording it over others was his raison d'etre.
[19:56] <Poet> He sems to be like special interest groups - that go to congress and try to get their laws passed
[19:56] <cloudpic> Great Chat all... but I must go....
[19:56] <An_Eternal_Night> In CoS he got kicked out of the boards of governors
[19:56] <nympheart> bye cloudpic
[19:56] <futureweasley> thanks cloudpic
[19:57] <Expelliarmas> bye cp
[19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> bye cloudpic
[19:57] <MrMcGonagall> bye, cloudpic1
[19:57] <futureweasley> have a good one!
[19:57] <CarpeDiem> See ya Cp!
[19:57] <An_Eternal_Night> bye cloudpic!
[19:57] <DumbleDebbie> by cp
[19:57] <cloudpic> Bye!
[19:57] <futureweasley> see you Saturday!!
[19:57] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye]
[19:57] <nympheart> I forgot about that AEN
[19:57] <Val_Halla> bye cp
[19:57] <harryfreak359> bye cloudipic
[19:57] <fawkes28> bye
[19:57] <AnnaNoe> ok i gotta go! gotta prepare for LOST!
[19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Anna
[19:57] <Poet> I agree CarpeDiem
[19:57] <harryfreak359> bye anna
[19:57] <nympheart> bye anna
[19:57] <An_Eternal_Night> bye Anna
[19:57] <Expelliarmas> bye Anna
[19:58] <futureweasley> bye Anna
[19:58] <fawkes28> bye anna
[19:58] *** AnnaNoe has quit [Bye]
[19:58] <Aislinn> actually, its almost that time for all of us
[19:58] <Val_Halla> bye anna
[19:58] <DumbleDebbie> sad
[19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> no live or die this time guys sad
[19:58] * futureweasley rustles everyone up for a group hug!
[19:58] * harryfreak359 thinks it is time for a group hug
[19:58] <Expelliarmas> hey, guys don't forget the Reading Groups get sorted this Saturday!
[19:58] <DumbleDebbie> (((((((group)))))))
[19:58] *** FreedomStar has quit [Bye]
[19:58] <DumbleDebbie> Yay Expie
[19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie'
[19:58] <fawkes28> well at least we had a nice extension last week smile
[19:58] <MrMcGonagall> Yep, I have a long drive back to Okieland tomorrow, so I need to upload a bunch of PCs onto thee ol' iPod.
[19:58] <harryfreak359> wheee reading groups!
[19:58] * futureweasley pinches fawkes
[19:58] <nympheart> *hugs*
[19:59] <harryfreak359> I can't wait!
[19:59] * Aislinn hugs the crowd
[19:59] * fawkes28 squeezes everyone in the group hug
[19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> travel safe Mr M
[19:59] <DumbleDebbie> drive safe Mr M
[19:59] <Tanaqui> great chat...for what i was able to catch
[19:59] <DumbleDebbie> (((((Mr McGonagall))))
[19:59] * harryfreak359 gives everyone a big hug
[19:59] * fawkes28 points future with that stick
[19:59] <Expelliarmas> drive safe MrM
[19:59] * MrMcGonagall gets squashed under a group hug.
[19:59] * SoonerGryffindor runs and jumps into the middle of the hug and stays away from fawkes stick
[19:59] *** Tanaqui left #lounge []
[19:59] <fawkes28> lol ah i meant pokes
[19:59] <MrMcGonagall> See you all on Saturday!
[19:59] <Aislinn> see you all at the next one!
[19:59] * futureweasley puts sooner in a LONG overdue Birthday headlock and gives birthday noogies
[19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> cya guys!
[20:00] <fawkes28> i would never poke you, sooner!
[20:00] * DumbleDebbie joins FW
[20:00] *** MrMcGonagall left #lounge []
[20:00] <CarpeDiem> Evening all!
[20:00] <nympheart> bye
[20:00] <Val_Halla> Bye all!
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