Transcript For Www Chat - 9/27/06, Canon Couples: What Do They See In Each Other? |
 Sep 27 2006, 08:27 PM
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She Who Channels Rita Skeeter  Posts: 2,938 Joined: 11:40pm January 17, 2006 Location: Twiddling My Time-Turner   |
Tonight's CB Mods were Aislinn, Poet, SoonerGryffindor, Expelliarmas and futureweasley
[19:00] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [19:00] <futureweasley> hi Gryffinclaw [19:00] <Gryffinclaw> Hi future [19:00] *** Poet has joined #lounge [19:00] <futureweasley> how are you doing tonight? [19:01] *** LordValerius has joined #lounge [19:01] <futureweasley> hi Poet! [19:01] *** mode/#lounge [+o Poet] by Snuffles [19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> howdy everyone [19:01] <Poet> hi [19:01] <futureweasley> hi LordValerius [19:01] <LordValerius> hello everyone [19:01] <Gryffinclaw> I'm okay thanks. This best be good It's midnight over here and I'm getting up at 7 this morning *yawn* [19:01] <futureweasley> oof, that's not fun [19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> well, I am excited about the topic [19:01] <futureweasley> I do that everynight I run Karaoke at my bar [19:01] <Gryffinclaw> good [19:01] <Poet> "Go to bed...sleepy head..." [19:02] <futureweasley> in bed at 2am, out of bed at 7am [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> so that explains some things. hehehehe [19:02] *** SillyPutty has joined #lounge [19:02] <Poet> welcome [19:02] <SillyPutty> evening [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome sillyputty [19:02] <futureweasley> hi SillyPutty [19:02] <Aislinn> Hi everybody [19:02] * futureweasley promises revenge on SoonerGryffindor...but remembers that revenge is best served cold [19:03] *** ProfessorJackson has joined #lounge [19:03] <SillyPutty> sneaking in at work again...so I may disappear from time to time... [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:03] <Gryffinclaw> lol [19:03] <futureweasley> lol...I do that from time to time too [19:03] <Gryffinclaw> Hi profJackson [19:03] <futureweasley> hi profJackson [19:03] <SillyPutty> So which couple we discussing first or we waiting... [19:03] <SillyPutty> hi Prof! [19:03] * SoonerGryffindor knows how to avoid futureweasleys hexes and jinxes [19:04] <Gryffinclaw> waiting I think [19:04] <Aislinn> quarter past, we will start the discussion smile [19:04] <ProfessorJackson> hi all! [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> sillyputty, we always wait till 15 after to start the questions [19:04] <futureweasley> I'm got jinxes you've never seen!! [19:04] <futureweasley> *I've [19:04] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:04] <SillyPutty> okey dokey... I can never remeber... [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> bring it sister [19:04] <futureweasley> hi harryfreak [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hi harryfreak [19:04] <Aislinn> hi harryfreak [19:04] * harryfreak359 gasps for breath as she runs in late [19:04] <harryfreak359> hi everyone! [19:04] <Gryffinclaw> Hi HPF 359 [19:04] <LordValerius> hi [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> its okay hf, you're not late [19:05] <futureweasley> are Petunia/Snape considered "canon"? [19:05] <harryfreak359> lol [19:05] <SillyPutty> hey! HarryFreak [19:05] <Poet> no [19:05] <futureweasley> lol [19:05] <harryfreak359> no future [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> *shakes head* [19:05] <futureweasley> I just had to get that out of my system [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> biggrin [19:05] <Poet> If Jo didn't write it... ;) [19:05] <SillyPutty> lol [19:05] <harryfreak359> lol [19:05] <harryfreak359> lol [19:05] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [19:05] <Aislinn> at least not yet tongue [19:05] <Gryffinclaw> lol [19:06] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [19:06] <Poet> I ship Steve Vander Ark/Canon [19:06] <futureweasley> yeah, not YET [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> this is not good if hf is already having problems [19:06] <futureweasley> hi fawkes! [19:06] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome fawkes [19:06] <Aislinn> hey fawkes [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Poet [19:06] <Gryffinclaw> Hi fawkes [19:06] * futureweasley hugs fawkes [19:06] <harryfreak359> sheesh, I already started laggin [19:06] <harryfreak359> hi fawkes [19:06] *** Gryffinclaw has quit [Bye] [19:06] *** adamgryff has joined #lounge [19:07] <Poet> !botsnack [19:07] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat [19:07] <futureweasley> hi adam [19:07] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [19:07] <harryfreak359> hi adamgryff [19:07] <Poet> uh oh [19:07] <adamgryff> hi harryfreak [19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> hey adamgryff [19:07] <adamgryff> hey sooner [19:07] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [19:07] *** madamnarcissamalfoy has joined #lounge [19:08] <Gryffinclaw> I think my computers as tired as I am [19:08] <Poet> Welcome, welcome...to another Corner Booth. [19:08] <harryfreak359> Mine too, I think [19:08] <futureweasley> yay Poet! [19:08] <harryfreak359> Whoo hoo! [19:08] <futureweasley> you guys try clearing your cookies and cache? [19:08] <futureweasley> it might help [19:08] * Poet looks around for the sons of Durmstrang to show up [19:08] <Gryffinclaw> thanks future [19:08] <futureweasley> nice use of "whoo hoo" there, harryfreak! [19:09] <harryfreak359> lol [19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:09] *** Gryffinclaw has quit [Bye] [19:09] <futureweasley> :laugh: [19:09] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Hey, i managed to get on, i pmed NickTlc, but didnt know why this didnt work the first time only have like two cookies!! [19:09] *** Gryffinclaw has joined #lounge [19:09] <Poet> Hmmm... [19:09] <harryfreak359> I cleaned my cookies yesterday... biggrin for once [19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> sometimes snuffles gets a lttle tempermental [19:10] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [19:10] <harryfreak359> lol [19:10] <futureweasley> I like cookies, they are tasty [19:10] <harryfreak359> wb fawkes [19:10] <Aislinn> !botsnack [19:10] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat [19:10] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Well, I know this text i will be adament about!!!!!!! [19:10] <fawkes28> hello [19:10] <SillyPutty> I have some milk with my cookies... [19:10] <harryfreak359> yeah very much so future [19:10] <Gryffinclaw> Coffee [19:10] *** displayname has joined #lounge [19:10] <Poet> The whole website is a little slow due to the popularity of the galleries. Though I don't think the galleries are on the same server as Snuffles. [19:10] <Gryffinclaw> Must drink coffee [19:10] <fawkes28> i don't know what happened but i'm glad i got back in smile [19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> hmm, did someone mention coffee? [19:10] <futureweasley> i love the new pics!! [19:10] <madamnarcissamalfoy> gonna go get pumpkin pie... [19:10] <harryfreak359> lol [19:10] <LordValerius> me too [19:10] <futureweasley> did you see the Dursleys today?! [19:10] *** displayname has quit [Bye] [19:10] <Gryffinclaw> yeah they looked cool [19:10] <Poet> I saw the Dursleys, yes [19:10] <harryfreak359> I didn't! [19:11] <futureweasley> It was PRICELESS [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> hf, you need to [19:11] <SillyPutty> the Dursley's? [19:11] <Gryffinclaw> I wanted to know what petunia was wearing [19:11] <futureweasley> I just can't wait [19:11] <adamgryff> I haven't yet. after the chat [19:11] <fawkes28> lol [19:11] <harryfreak359> *whines* [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> hang on hf...... [19:11] <Poet> I really should stop looking at TLC's news page, so I'm not spoiled. [19:11] <harryfreak359> lol [19:11] <futureweasley> she looked lovely, actually [19:11] <futureweasley> imho [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> she really did [19:11] <Aislinn> all of the pictures that have come out in the last day or so are really cool [19:11] <futureweasley> very "unDursley"ish [19:11] <Gryffinclaw> not quite how I imagined her though [19:11] * futureweasley has the DA as her wallpaper [19:12] <Gryffinclaw> yeah I agree future [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> dang it..... I cant get the galleries to load right now' [19:12] * SoonerGryffindor so does SoonerGryffindor [19:12] *** Ritzy has joined #lounge [19:12] <SillyPutty> same here future [19:12] <fawkes28> yes they are but that virus yesterday put my computer out of commission for a week sad [19:12] <futureweasley> hi ritzy [19:12] <madamnarcissamalfoy> yeah, i need to check out leaky, i just have no time. I am pushing off a project for this chat, so dont hate me please. Not that i really care if you do, its just a figure of speech [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> that virus in an internet exploreer thing [19:12] *** harrypotterfan123 has joined #lounge [19:12] <Ritzy> hi [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> switch to another browser and you should be fine [19:12] <Poet> Movie 3 was a total surprise because I hadn't seen any images, but for Movie 4 I saw a bit too many, you know what I mean? [19:12] <harrypotterfan123> hi all [19:12] <fawkes28> it's all good now smile [19:13] <futureweasley> yes Poet...I totally get you [19:13] <futureweasley> I felt the same [19:13] <harryfreak359> that is too bad about your computer Fawkes [19:13] <harryfreak359> For once, my actually behaved well [19:13] <fawkes28> yes i am borrowing the family one for now [19:13] * madamnarcissamalfoy wonders how you are on the internet if you are out of commissoin. then realizes you must be on another computer! [19:14] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hi 123! [19:14] <adamgryff> I had trouble yesturday unitl I updated Windows and now I'm fine. [19:14] <futureweasley> or, she fixed it already??? [19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> Harryfreak -- here is the link to the Dursley pic http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/....php?album=1524 [19:14] <fawkes28> nope won't get it back till next week the computer guy said [19:14] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hey is this the part where you can mention anything? [19:14] <madamnarcissamalfoy> like x men 3? [19:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> coming out? [19:15] <futureweasley> we are actually getting started, it's quarter after [19:15] <Poet> Sorry, time's up smile [19:15] <madamnarcissamalfoy> lol [19:15] <harryfreak359> Thanks sooner [19:15] <futureweasley> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [19:15] <futureweasley> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [19:16] *** artlady has joined #lounge [19:16] <futureweasley> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [19:16] <futureweasley> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [19:16] <futureweasley> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> The coupling of certain people in the Harry Potter books may not be essential to the defeat of Voldemort or to Harry fulfilling the prophecy as the chosen one, however it lends a realistic depth to the character interactions in the series. [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> While it may be hard to answer for certain why certain characters are attracted to other or to understand why Jo chose certain couples to be together rather than others, it is her world. So, it is fascinating to try and look into these couples' minds and make some educated guesses as to what they might see in each other. [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> Thus, our topic for this chat is canon couples, their dynamics, what brought them together, what keeps them together, and perhaps even how those relationships further the plots of the books. We're going to stay away from discussing why a couple DOESN'T belong together or who you wish was together instead of a certain couple in the book. Without further ado, we give you...Canon Couples! [b][19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Do you think Hermione's lack of “fan girl” behavior toward Krum was a factor in his becoming interested in her? [19:17] <Aislinn> Yes, I think that would make her more appealing to him[/b] [19:17] <futureweasley> absolutely...I think it's the biggest factor [19:17] <ProfessorJackson> Absolutely! [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> me too [19:17] *** SillyPutty has quit [Bye] [19:17] <LordValerius> yeah [19:17] <adamgryff> Yes, most definitely [19:17] <fawkes28> yes because i think he wanted to see if he could get her interested [19:17] <Poet> I think it certainly helped him to see her for who she really was. He could watch her from afar. [19:17] <ProfessorJackson> I'm sure it was a relief to him. [19:17] <madamnarcissamalfoy> sorry bout that (cat) [19:17] <artlady> yep, must've been refreshing for him [19:17] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [19:17] *** elizabethsprague has joined #lounge [19:17] <Ritzy> I think so [19:17] <harryfreak359> Yeah I think so [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> that and it made her different than every other girl n the world [19:17] <fawkes28> she wasn't pressuring him or admiring him [19:18] <Ritzy> exacly [19:18] <elizabethsprague> hi all [19:18] <futureweasley> I think he's tired of being "fawned" over [19:18] <madamnarcissamalfoy> yeah i dont really have much arguement on that question [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> hello elizabeth [19:18] <futureweasley> by dumb girls [19:18] <harryfreak359> Yeah, I agree future [19:18] <artlady> a good starter boyfriend for her [19:18] <Gryffinclaw> probably [19:18] <fawkes28> he is in the spotlight but i think he really enjoys the quiet like hermione [19:18] <elizabethsprague> what [19:19] <futureweasley> I agree fawkes [19:19] <elizabethsprague> LOL i see [19:19] <Poet> I was surprised that he'd choose someone who wasn't fawning over him. [19:19] <SoonerGryffindor> why so Poet? [19:19] <madamnarcissamalfoy> yeah fawkes [19:19] <futureweasley> he loves hanging with her in the library...to me, that says he's tired of being "on" all the time [19:19] <madamnarcissamalfoy> I wasnt poet [19:19] <Ritzy> maybe he is a simple guy [19:19] <Poet> Not all young men are that confident. [19:19] <Gryffinclaw> I think Krum is a bit of a reluctant hero [19:19] <fawkes28> exactly future i think he feels like he can be him around her [19:19] <futureweasley> yes, Gryff...I see that too [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> somewhat like Harry in that aspect? [19:20] <Poet> Sometimes it is easier to fall for someone who is interested in you already. [19:20] <Aislinn> I don't think people enjoy being fawned over - its ultimately not about who that person really is [19:20] <harrypotterfan123> ugh comp froze up [19:20] <futureweasley> yes Sooner, they are very similar in their roles to the wizarding world [19:20] <fawkes28> sometimes but i guess it shows us his true character, poet [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its nice that Krum shows he wants to be with someone who likes him for who his is, not what he is [19:20] <futureweasley> aww, I like that about him, too! [19:20] <futureweasley> I hope he finds it...elsewhere [19:20] <artlady> he's kinda sweet! [19:21] <madamnarcissamalfoy> i dunno. [19:21] <Gryffinclaw> I think he has an eye for inner beuty because Hermione is never described as beutiful untill the Yule Ball [19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> and that he doesnt automatically go with the prettiest one in the whole school [19:21] <futureweasley> btw, hi Artlady! [19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> hey artlady! [19:21] <artlady> Howdy! [19:21] <fawkes28> hi artlady! [19:21] <harryfreak359> HI! [19:21] <adamgryff> I'm sure that Krum had more than his fair share of fan girls and was looking for something different. [19:21] <artlady> Hey there, all! [19:21] <Poet> ...when choosing a relationship it's easier to choose one that the person is already interested in you, though that's not a good foundation for an actual long-term relationship wink [19:21] <futureweasley> she wasn't described that way because Harry doesn't see her that way [19:21] <Ritzy> i wonder how he is going to react when he finds out about Ron [19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I totally agree Adam [19:21] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hi artlady, havent met you yet [19:21] <futureweasley> Harry didn't even recognize her at the Yule Ball at first [19:21] <Gryffinclaw> yeah I guess future [19:22] <artlady> Hello, madamn! [19:22] <ProfessorJackson> That's right future [19:22] <ProfessorJackson> It is all from his perspective [19:22] <Gryffinclaw> yup [19:22] <artlady> Krum brought her out of her shell a bit [19:22] <elizabethsprague> I lick the youl ball [19:22] <Gryffinclaw> Ritzy - Maybe he's given up on her or he could push Ron into action [19:23] <fawkes28> right hr helped her blossom [19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> Krum was a famous Quidditch player with girls fawning all over him. With that type of constant distraction, how did he end up noticing Hermione? [19:23] <Ritzy> maybe [19:23] <Poet> Too true, that's the hard thing about analyzing these couples, we see things from Harry's perspective no theirs. [19:23] <futureweasley> be was totally the opposite of what was available to him [19:23] <Gryffinclaw> Probably becaause she didn't fawn over him [19:23] <futureweasley> readily available, I mean [19:23] <Ravendor> she was the different one [19:23] <fawkes28> i think krum has an academic side and maybe was drawn to that intellectual side of hermione [19:23] <Poet> I wonder if he might have seen her walking with Harry. [19:23] <ProfessorJackson> Precisely because she didn't fawn...and let's face it, she does hang around with someone pretty noticeable! [19:23] <Gryffinclaw> he probably thought getting her was a bit of a challenge [19:23] <artlady> Maybe that just wasn't what he was looking for--stardom [19:24] <Poet> Maybe he first went to the library to get away from the fawning girls because he knew they'd have to be quiet in the library? [19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> well, in a way it was probably easy to notice her because she was the only one that wasn't in his face [19:24] <futureweasley> yes, he is a true competitor...and he might have seen her as the challenge, vs. the fish in the barrel thing [19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> good point fw [19:24] <Ravendor> I agree, Poet [19:24] <artlady> ...or...he's a spy...heee heee [19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> lol artlady [19:24] * Gryffinclaw yawns in agreement [19:24] <futureweasley> lol, that's possible [19:24] <adamgryff> lol artlady [19:25] <Poet> Fortunately he didn't turn out to be a spy. [19:25] <futureweasley> there's still time for that [19:25] <futureweasley> lol [19:25] <artlady> I don't think he's smart enough to be a spy [19:25] <artlady> not that there's anything wrong with that [19:25] <Gryffinclaw> well he might still be - he's coming back in book 7 [19:25] <fawkes28> awe he's nice [19:25] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [19:25] *** harrypotterfan123 has quit [Bye] [19:25] *** harrypotterfan123 has joined #lounge [19:25] <artlady> he is a nice guy for sure [19:25] <Ravendor> yeah, he does seem nice [19:25] <Gryffinclaw> Hi DumbleDebbie [19:25] <futureweasley> I love when ron calls him a ruddy pumpkinhead in the movie...because that's kind of how I see his intelligence level [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> hey debbie! [19:26] <DumbleDebbie> hiya smile [19:26] <futureweasley> hi DDebbie [19:26] <harrypotterfan123> ughh comp froze and then i couldn't get back in [19:26] *** Leda has joined #lounge [19:26] <fawkes28> hi dumbledebbie [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Leda [19:26] <Ravendor> hey, dumbledebbie [19:26] <harryfreak359> hi debbie [19:26] <Ravendor> hey, Leda [19:26] <fawkes28> lol fw [19:26] <harryfreak359> hi leda [19:26] <artlady> fight it harryfreak! [19:26] <DumbleDebbie> where are we? [19:26] <Gryffinclaw> hi leda [19:26] <futureweasley> hi leda [19:26] <harrypotterfan123> hey harryfreak [19:26] <Leda> hi!!! [19:26] <fawkes28> hi leda [19:26] <madamnarcissamalfoy> fw, i thought it was ironic, cause rons head looks like a pumpkin [19:26] <harryfreak359> fight what artlady? [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> In what ways did Hermione's relationship with Krum help to jolt Ron out of his apathy towards Hermione? [19:26] <Gryffinclaw> talking about Hermione and Krum [19:27] <harryfreak359> hi harrypotterfan123 [19:27] <artlady> your computer [19:27] <Leda> pumpkin LOL! [19:27] <futureweasley> every way possible [19:27] *** elizabethsprague has quit [Bye] [19:27] <harryfreak359> nothing happened to my computer.... confused07 [19:27] <Leda> my 8 year old has a crush on krum [19:27] <fawkes28> it made him not take her for granted [19:27] <artlady> Nothing like a little competition [19:27] <Aislinn> I think he definitely started seeing her as more than just a chum [19:27] <ProfessorJackson> Well...just like Harry, Ron hadn't really noticed her before [19:27] <harrypotterfan123> guys i guess i'm gonna leave [19:27] <fawkes28> it made him realize she was a girl as well [19:27] <DumbleDebbie> showed him he wasn't the only fish in the sea [19:27] <Aislinn> and realized that gee, she might be a girl [19:27] <futureweasley> Ron realizes that she's a catch for any bloke...and she is actually desirable to HIS quidditch idol [19:27] <harrypotterfan123> bye [19:27] <adamgryff> He started seeing her as girl instead of just a friend [19:27] <Leda> her aloofness was attractive [19:28] <Ravendor> bye, hpfan123 [19:28] <Leda> that is she was the only girl not chasing him [19:28] <futureweasley> bye hpfan [19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> it was when he first realized that she was a girl. A girl that other guys were interested in [19:28] <futureweasley> yes Sooner, exactly [19:28] <Poet> He also suddenly realized that Hermione may not always be available to be around him. [19:28] <ProfessorJackson> right poet [19:28] *** harrypotterfan123 has quit [Bye] [19:28] <futureweasley> especially because he looks up to Krum in the fashion he does [19:28] <adamgryff> good point Poet [19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with that too Poet [19:28] <harryfreak359> bye hpfan [19:28] *** LordValerius left #lounge [] [19:28] <Ritzy> he knows that he can lose her for ever [19:29] <Leda> ron's kinda young for his age, maybe the because he's the youngest boy? [19:29] <futureweasley> yes Ritzy...she's not exclusively there for him [19:29] <Ritzy> exacly future [19:29] <Ravendor> maybe, Leda [19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> the fact that they started out as such good friends only hinders it IMO as well [19:29] <futureweasley> yes, I think Molly has a bit to do with that [19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> its so easy to take somone's presence for granted when you spend every day with them [19:29] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome CB [19:29] <fawkes28> yes it is [19:29] <CedrellaBlack> hey sooner [19:30] <adamgryff> too true sooner [19:30] <futureweasley> yeah, Sooner...they are so close, they are in the "don't want to hurt the friendship" zone...not a comfortable place to be [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly! [19:30] <CedrellaBlack> What couple are we talking about? [19:30] <Ravendor> yeah [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> but then Ron sees her with another boy and BAM [19:30] <CedrellaBlack> ahh ron and hermione [19:30] <Ravendor> yep [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> he starts to realize how he feels [19:30] <Leda> that's when he sees her as a woman [19:30] <ProfessorJackson> he realizes he's an idiot [19:30] <futureweasley> we're talking about how Krum broke Ron out of his Hermione shell [19:30] <fawkes28> it happens that way in real life too smile [19:30] <Ritzy> remember boys mature slower than girls [19:30] <Leda> or as a female, datable, rather than a sister-figure [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> kinda like what happened when Harry first say Ginny and Dean, but we will get to that in a bit [19:31] <DumbleDebbie> How Krum's date with Hermione woke Ron up a bit, CB [19:31] <Leda> yes, sooner [19:31] <CedrellaBlack> thanks DD [19:31] <futureweasley> Jo made a point to say that Ron is emotionally and physically less mature than Hermione...and he needed Lav Lav to "catch up" [19:31] <adamgryff> Fawkes I totally agree! [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> I don't think that he ever saw her as a sister, he just ddnt see her as a "girl" at first [19:31] <harryfreak359> yeah sooner [19:31] <harryfreak359> totally [19:32] <Leda> maybe the guys can comment on this, but is there a kind of jealousy-thing that motivates seeking a mate??? [19:32] <fawkes28> yes he saw her as a buddy [19:32] <futureweasley> she's "one of the boys" [19:32] <Leda> okay, sooner, i see what you mean [19:32] <Leda> definitely buddy material [19:32] <Ritzy> they have this feelings and they don't know what they are [19:32] <futureweasley> right Ritzy...exactly [19:32] *** artlady has quit [Bye] [19:32] <adamgryff> sometimes, more than likey yes. [19:33] <SoonerGryffindor> Why was Lavender Brown attracted to Ron? Did she actually care for him? What brought them together and what did they have in common? [19:33] <Leda> well, they fight right off the bat, from year one--that kinda foreshadows a passion (?) [19:33] <futureweasley> Krum knows how to express his desire for Hermione... [19:33] <Leda> hormones [19:33] <harryfreak359> I think the Ron/Lavendar was just one of those teen crushes [19:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Lavendar started fangrirling him and that's how it started [19:33] <Aislinn> Hormones [19:33] <Ritzy> exactly [19:33] <Gryffinclaw> Lavender I think was just being a typical 16yr old girl - being lustful [19:33] <fawkes28> i think they she always had a crush on him but i do think she wanted to "beat" hermione for once [19:33] <futureweasley> I think they were definitely attracted to each other...but Ron knew that being with Lavender would hurt Hermione [19:33] <futureweasley> yes fawkes...exactly [19:33] <Poet> Ron grew a lot over the summer and is a quidditch player. He suddenly is more cool for one. [19:34] <Gryffinclaw> yeah and he faught in the ministry [19:34] <fawkes28> it was one of those puppy love things but they both had external motives [19:34] <Leda> it's not like we saw them take romantic walks hand in hand, it was all smooching! blech [19:34] <Ritzy> i thinl he is more secure of himself for a change [19:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron has always been in Harry;s shadow, and he is still in a way, but he's also coming into his own some more. Girls were bound to start noticing him [19:34] <fawkes28> deinitely no substance [19:34] <futureweasley> I think he was also a "taste of celebrity" for Lavender...Ron is "dangerous" because he's always in the thick of things with Harry [19:34] <adamgryff> agree ritzy [19:34] <Leda> plus ron's supposed to be tall, the ladies like that I think [19:34] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, the Quidditch cup win likely helped [19:34] <Ravendor> yes, fw [19:34] <Gryffinclaw> definately [19:35] <Leda> yes debbie [19:35] <Ritzy> right on [19:35] <Poet> She seemed to truly care for him though. She wasn't embarassed to call him cutsie names and put herself out there with [19:35] <futureweasley> haha, Ron's the "bad boy" that you mother's warned you about [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> it is kind sad n a way [19:35] <fawkes28> plus they were both grow up and wanted to explore there emotions, which is completely normal [19:35] <adamgryff> lol future [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fw [19:35] <Ravendor> lol [19:35] <Gryffinclaw> Won-Won lol [19:35] <DumbleDebbie> the cutsie names seemed more like a dog marking its territory IMO [19:35] <futureweasley> oh barf [19:35] <Ritzy> lol [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> but true [19:35] <Ravendor> lol [19:35] <CedrellaBlack> lavlav gahh [19:35] <Leda> i agree debbie, she was advertising their couple status [19:36] <futureweasley> yes DDebbie, I totally felt that same way...and the necklace...a way to "brand" him [19:36] <Ravendor> yeah [19:36] <Poet> She seemed to truly give her whole self to their relationship. A bit too clingy of course. [19:36] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [19:36] *** mode/#lounge [+o Expelliarmas] by Snuffles [19:36] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Lavendar was annoying IMO in how she behaved [19:36] <futureweasley> it was probably Lavender's first "relationship" too... [19:36] <futureweasley> hi Expie [19:36] <SoonerGryffindor> girls do that [19:36] <ProfessorJackson> it had more to do with having a boyfriend than with having ron [19:36] <SoonerGryffindor> she was defnitely getting posessive and I think it is because she knew that he wasnt as into her as she was to him [19:36] <Ritzy> that necklace, lol [19:36] <fawkes28> totally being teenagers and sometimes it's a lot cooler to be with someone just for the sake of having someone [19:36] <Aislinn> that's a good point sooner [19:36] <CedrellaBlack> Lavender was insecure about their relationship becuase i think she knew that he liked hermione so she gave him the necklace to make it 100 % clear that he was hers [19:36] <Expelliarmas> what's the pending question, please? [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> you see it all the time in real life [19:37] <Aislinn> he was pulling away, so she clung on tighter [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> maybe the possessive was an outward expression of her insecurity [19:37] <Poet> Good point CedrellaBlack [19:37] <fawkes28> hi expel! [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> why were Ron and Lav attracted to each other, Expie [19:37] <futureweasley> yes Aislinn...I wanted to shake her [19:37] <Ravendor> hey, expel [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> hi Expie [19:37] <CedrellaBlack> thanks poet [19:37] <Ritzy> i have to go see u guys later [19:37] <futureweasley> it was very "how to lose a guy in 10 days" what she was doing [19:37] <futureweasley> thanks for coming ritzy [19:37] <fawkes28> lol future [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> bye ritzy [19:37] <CedrellaBlack> bye ritzy [19:37] <Aislinn> it was [19:37] <Ravendor> bye, Ritzy [19:37] <fawkes28> bye [19:37] <adamgryff> bye ritzy [19:37] <Leda> bye [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> lol future! Lav should write a book [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fw.... I love that movie [19:37] <Expelliarmas> she wanted a boyfriend, and he wanted a girlfriend. I doubt they were that attacted to each other [19:38] *** Ritzy left #lounge [] [19:38] <Expelliarmas> it was convenient [19:38] <Ravendor> I agree, Expel [19:38] <futureweasley> I just wanted to be that friend that said "stop, look and listen to what you are doing" [19:38] <CedrellaBlack> if lav wrote a book i wouldnt read it lol [19:38] <Leda> and hormones [19:38] <Expelliarmas> and lavendar was about as un-Hermionish as she could be. [19:38] <futureweasley> totally convenient...very true Expie [19:38] <Leda> i'd read it! [19:38] <ProfessorJackson> I agree expel...and, frankly, it was pretty fun for both of them for a while... [19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry's and Par vart's reactions said it all laugh [19:38] <Leda> a tell-all memoir of hot teen romance at hogwarts [19:38] <fawkes28> she was definitely enjoying making hermione jealous [19:38] <futureweasley> LOL Leda [19:39] <harryfreak359> yes, expel [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> lol Leda [19:39] <Expelliarmas> I think it was Ron who enjoyed making Hermoine jealous [19:39] <futureweasley> yes she was...it was the one time Lavender would get the best of Hermione Granger [19:39] <CedrellaBlack> well i think it was a little of both [19:39] <futureweasley> I think it was a bit of both [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Expie. That was definitely the root of it all [19:39] <fawkes28> i think she wanted to "one up" hermione for once [19:39] <Ravendor> I agree, some of both [19:39] <Leda> yeah, would hermione be as jealous if ron chose someone more like her? [19:39] <Poet> I'm sure Ron also was enjoying the attention at first. [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> Lavendar just took the lead from Ron in that whole deal [19:39] <CedrellaBlack> and they were sort of using eacheother to make the same person jealous [19:39] <harryfreak359> I think it was a little bit of everything you are all saying [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> was Ron/Lav at some leve him paying back Hermione for Krum? [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> definitely Debbie [19:40] <Expelliarmas> I think Lavendar might have still been sore about the whole "Binky" thing ... [19:40] <futureweasley> totally DDebbie [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> that's how the whole thing started IMO [19:40] <Leda> yes if ron was jealous of krum, which i say he was [19:40] <Ravendor> yes [19:40] <ProfessorJackson> it was ron "catching up" to hermione... [19:40] <futureweasley> he had just taken his blinders off about the "physical" aspect of Hermione/Krum's relationship [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> Was Ron and Lavender's relationship truly as shallow as it seemed? [19:40] <ProfessorJackson> yup [19:40] <Leda> probably [19:40] <Poet> Sure, but I don't think Ron and Lavender were using each other the whole time. [19:40] <Ravendor> yes, I think it was very shallow [19:40] <futureweasley> hmm, I'm not sure [19:40] <fawkes28> oh definitely [19:40] <CedrellaBlack> yup [19:40] *** Narya has joined #lounge [19:40] <adamgryff> yes! [19:40] <CedrellaBlack> hey narya [19:40] <Ravendor> hey, Narya [19:41] *** SillyPutty has joined #lounge [19:41] <Expelliarmas> It was more than shallow, it was vapid. So vapid, they could see each other's thoughts on their foreheads. [19:41] <futureweasley> it started out with potential...lol [19:41] <madamnarcissamalfoy> No! [19:41] <Ravendor> hey, SillyPutty [19:41] <CedrellaBlack> hi sillyputty [19:41] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Narya [19:41] <Narya> Hi [19:41] <fawkes28> hi sillyputty [19:41] <SillyPutty> hey! finally made it back/... [19:41] <DumbleDebbie> oh yeah [19:41] <SillyPutty> so what we talking about now? [19:41] <harryfreak359> hi Narya [19:41] <SoonerGryffindor> wb silly putty [19:41] <Poet> I think Lavender would have liked it to be more, but at that age it's hard to know how. Lavender kept trying to get Harry to find out for her what Ron really thought of her. [19:41] <futureweasley> you know...snogging each other's socks off in the Gryffindor Common Room...that's the beginnings of a very mature relationship! [19:41] <CedrellaBlack> i think it was deffinetely shallow [19:41] <CedrellaBlack> it was payback [19:41] <Leda> maybe vapid was a good start for ron [19:41] <SoonerGryffindor> ewwww [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> lol Future [19:42] <Leda> snogging sound a lot like snot [19:42] <SillyPutty> it was purely phsyical... [19:42] <Expelliarmas> there was nothing to their relationship; Lavendar had never shown any interest in Ron before [19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Leda [19:42] <CedrellaBlack> i have to go [19:42] <Leda> snottting? [19:42] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [19:42] <Expelliarmas> or vice versa [19:42] <madamnarcissamalfoy> No, ron didnt like her but lavender totally did. [19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> bye CB. Nice to have you here [19:42] <futureweasley> Ron needed to have Hermione see that happen...and see her "hurt". I think he needed it to confirm in his own mind that she was interested in him [19:42] <fawkes28> well we dont know because it's from harry's pov [19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with FW [19:42] <Poet> I agree with all of those recent statements [19:42] <adamgryff> there was no relationship with Lavender and Ron [19:42] <Ravendor> I agree, fw [19:43] <SillyPutty> very true... fa [19:43] <Expelliarmas> I also think Ron took up with Lavendar in part due to Ginny tearing strips off of him. [19:43] <SillyPutty> I mean fw [19:43] <Gryffinclaw> Well there was just not a serious one [19:43] <Poet> Right, we don't get to see all of what Ron and Lavender were thinking. [19:43] <Narya> I don't know that Ron analysed it all that much ... he just lapped up all the attention [19:43] <Leda> it was JKR's version of what kids call "hooking up" these days [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> Why do you think Ron was reluctant to end his relationship with Lavender? [19:43] <futureweasley> yes, he was embarassed [19:43] <Gryffinclaw> yeah definately expelliarmus [19:43] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Ron liked making out with her come on now! [19:43] <SillyPutty> because he didn't want to hurt her... and see it [19:43] <Leda> that's true, he cared about how she felt to some extent [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> didnt' want to admit he messed up? [19:43] <Poet> I think he also didn't want to appear to be a failure. It might have been his pride. [19:43] <Narya> Ron seemed to me to be looking for a way out ... but not sure how to do it [19:43] <SillyPutty> and he knew what he did was wrong... he used her in a way [19:43] <adamgryff> he did'nt want to make her fell bad and he decided he had true feeling for Hermione [19:43] <Leda> that too, sooner [19:44] <Expelliarmas> He didn't know how to end it ... Lavendar became a sort of stalker in the end [19:44] <futureweasley> he realized after Hermione started talking to him again that he had been using Lavendor...and he didn't want her to feel "used" [19:44] <Leda> breaking up is hard to do [19:44] <madamnarcissamalfoy> Didnt know how [19:44] <ProfessorJackson> yeah...it wouldn't have been in ron's character not to at least care about how she felt. [19:44] <Aislinn> I think he just couldn't deal with the confrontation [19:44] <DumbleDebbie> basic lack of communication skills on Ron's part, boys [19:44] <Poet> Yes, I agree Leda. Ron does have some heart it him. [19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with that too Aislinn [19:44] <Leda> he'd feel bad if he thought he'd used someone [19:44] <futureweasley> Ron is extremely non-confrontational [19:44] <Poet> Ha, yes - lack of ability to communicate. [19:44] <Narya> Ron can't take conflict, so that's a good point [19:44] <SillyPutty> and non-facing reality... [19:44] <Expelliarmas> Yes, Ron wasn't big on facing Lavendar head on [19:44] <futureweasley> I think we can thank Fred and George for that [19:44] <Aislinn> except when he argues with Hermione smile [19:44] <ProfessorJackson> well, that's different! [19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> he has seen his dad model the whole non-confrontational way of thought [19:45] <SillyPutty> true aislinn [19:45] <futureweasley> well, she brings that out in everyone! Ron is no exception [19:45] <madamnarcissamalfoy> hafta go now1 [19:45] <ProfessorJackson> that's fun! [19:45] <Leda> he really has a soft spot for hermione [19:45] <DumbleDebbie> good point Sooner [19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> bye madam [19:45] *** Ravendor has quit [Bye] [19:45] <Poet> We can't know for certain, but I agree Leda, that he may have been using Lavender, but I don't think it was as conscious as we think. [19:45] <Leda> yes sooner [19:45] <futureweasley> Arthur is very "back seat"... [19:45] <futureweasley> just chill and watch his wife go crazy [19:45] *** madamnarcissamalfoy left #lounge [] [19:45] <Poet> Good point. [19:45] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [19:46] <fawkes28> you definitely learn about relationships from your parents [19:46] <Narya> Arthur is pretty laid back - doesn't interfere unless he really has to [19:46] <DumbleDebbie> ture Poet, subconscious using [19:46] <SillyPutty> and ron is the same way. Boys learn how to interact with women by watching their parents [19:46] <Leda> what to do and what not to do [19:46] <harryfreak359> Yep [19:46] <ProfessorJackson> but what boy does find it easy to break up with his first girlfriend? [19:46] <SoonerGryffindor> very true Prof [19:46] <SillyPutty> Because Ron will often just let Hermione go on and on sometimes unless he feels passionate about something... [19:46] <futureweasley> good point [19:46] <futureweasley> ProfJackson [19:47] <Ravendor> yeah, ProfJackson [19:47] <Expelliarmas> well, Ron was just avoiding Lavendar by pretending to be asleep; as if that would work. [19:47] <futureweasley> I do think that, in the end, Ron figured out that he was using Lavendar [19:47] <SillyPutty> I guess so... [19:47] <SoonerGryffindor> How did Ron's relationship with Lavender Brown strengthen his feelings for Hermione and how did it do the same for Hermione's feeling for Ron? [19:47] <ProfessorJackson> i agree fw [19:47] <adamgryff> it is a very hard thing to do is break up with your girlfriend and at 16 and never have done it before is hard. [19:47] <Narya> I think his relationship with Lavender showed him that she didn't come close to what he really wanted [19:47] <fawkes28> i think ron had to realize if he really had feelings for hermione [19:47] <Expelliarmas> I think Hermoine was clear on her feelings for Ron for quite awhile and was waiting for him to catch up already. [19:48] <SillyPutty> I think Ron realized that relationships are more then just snogging... there has to be a deeper connection [19:48] <ProfessorJackson> it sure showed both of them what they liked in each other more clearly [19:48] <fawkes28> he learned what he didn't like [19:48] <Poet> I think he saw what was missing in his relationship with Lavender and realized that there was girl that had what he was lacking with Lavender. [19:48] <Leda> ron's more superficial relationship with lav may have left something desired, something deeper that he might find with hermione [19:48] <futureweasley> I think that, after Lavendar, they figured out that they had TRULY been through everything...and made it out alive, and together [19:48] <Leda> yes poet! [19:48] <Aislinn> I think that it helped him better understand what he appreciated in Hermione [19:48] <SillyPutty> and I think he realized that Hermione knew him about would never of bought him a necklace [19:48] <Leda> yes aislinn [19:48] <Aislinn> and what makes a mature relationship, by comparison [19:48] <Ravendor> I agree, Aislinn [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> lol sillyputty [19:48] <Poet> Boy - Hermione with those little birds - attacking Ron. [19:48] <Narya> I also think that Hermione knew deep down that Ron didn't really like Lavender but she accepted that he had to go through that stage [19:48] <SillyPutty> as for hermione- you never realize whata you have until its gone [19:48] <Leda> if your needs aren't met by someone, you look elsewhere (whether you should or not!) [19:48] <futureweasley> yes, I think Lav refined and defined what Ron was NOT looking for [19:48] <ProfessorJackson> I loved the little birds! [19:49] <fawkes28> yes and he learned while snogging is all fun, he wants more to a relationship than that [19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> that's a good observation Narya [19:49] <futureweasley> Oppugno! [19:49] <Expelliarmas> Hermoine also like Ron before he suddenly became an "interesting" Quidditch player and was forever looking out for him. [19:49] <Leda> yes narya, hermione's pretty mature in that way [19:49] <futureweasley> I like that Narya...Lavendar was a "stage" [19:49] <SillyPutty> yep... [19:49] <Narya> Hermione has liked Ron for a long time, but it took Ron ages to catch up with her - she's way ahead of him in emotional maturity [19:49] <Leda> a phase [19:49] <SillyPutty> I agree wtih that... [19:49] <ProfessorJackson> that's right expel...hermione always liked him even when he was just the sidekick [19:49] *** Addreamy has joined #lounge [19:49] <SillyPutty> just like most girls [19:50] <Ravendor> hey, Addreamy [19:50] <SillyPutty> She realized it in GOF correct? when they were fighitng? [19:50] <futureweasley> I think Hermione's feelings are a bit "old hat", whereas Ron is just starting to understand and interpret what his feelings are [19:50] *** Addreamy has quit [Bye] [19:50] <DumbleDebbie> hi Addreamy [19:50] <Narya> Yes she did [19:50] <SillyPutty> and that he liked her as well... [19:50] <ProfessorJackson> yes, silly. I'm sure she did. [19:50] <Gryffinclaw> I'm going now. I can't keep my eye's open much longer night [19:50] <Narya> Even before that, I think [19:50] <SillyPutty> and waited thru OOTp and just as they were making steps toward a relationship in HBP Ron freaks out [19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> well, now they are past playing games *crosses fingers* [19:50] <DumbleDebbie> night Gryffnclaw [19:50] <Ravendor> bye, Gryffinclaw [19:50] <Gryffinclaw> night [19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> bye GC [19:50] *** Gryffinclaw has quit [Bye] [19:50] <Expelliarmas> I think her feelings started showing in POA; Ron got a mild clue in GOF, when Krum took Hermione to the dance. [19:50] <adamgryff> bye, gryffinclaw This post has been edited by futureweasley: Sep 27 2006, 08:37 PM |
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[19:51] <Leda> well they have a certain intensity from the very beginning, long before the glimmer of romance appear
[19:51] <Poet> Hermione's hides her feelings. Seeing Ron with Lavender I think helped some of those feelings to come right to the surface where Ron could see them. [19:51] <harryfreak359> I agree Poet [19:51] <futureweasley> good point Poet [19:51] <SillyPutty> She couldn't deny it any longer? [19:51] <Leda> hermione's very controlled [19:51] <Narya> That's a good point Poet - Hermione is afraid of being hurt [19:51] <Leda> yes narya [19:51] <ProfessorJackson> I'm not sure that she recognized her feelings in POA though... [19:51] <Expelliarmas> terrified of being hurt or rejected [19:51] <SillyPutty> She may of liked him but not realized how much until Lav and Ron [19:51] <Poet> I take that back, she doesn't hide her opinons, just some of her emotions I guess. [19:51] <SoonerGryffindor> there is much more maturity to it now as we saw in the last scene of book 6 [19:51] <Narya> Especially by Ron [19:52] <fawkes28> true sillyputty [19:52] <Expelliarmas> she may not have recognized her feelings in PoA, but they started emerging [19:52] <futureweasley> oh, the last scene in HBP!!! [19:52] <futureweasley> I died! [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> hmm [19:52] <Leda> very very sweet [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> very mature [19:52] * Poet laughs and gets warm fuzzies [19:52] *** DMD has joined #lounge [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> and that is what was lacking the whole time [19:52] <fawkes28> and remember they still are teenagers and have a lot of growing up to do in regards to relationships [19:52] <futureweasley> very mature...and hopeful [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome DMD [19:52] <futureweasley> hi DMD! [19:52] <Ravendor> hey, DMD [19:52] <Narya> I think they're both equal at that point [19:52] <DMD> hi guys [19:52] <fawkes28> hi DMD! [19:52] <DumbleDebbie> hi DMD [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> What does Hermione get from Ron that she lacks, and what does he get in turn from her? In what ways do they make up for what the other lacks? [19:52] <adamgryff> hey dmd [19:52] <Leda> i get the impression kids grow up or mature a little faster in the Potterverse [19:52] <futureweasley> yes Narya...it took the whole book to get there, but I agree that they are "equal" [19:53] <harryfreak359> hi DMD! [19:53] <fawkes28> i think ron makes her loosen up [19:53] <Poet> They remind me of a ying and yang. [19:53] <Narya> Hermione gets a sense of mischief from Ron that she needs - Ron gets balance from Hermione [19:53] <fawkes28> and live in the moment more [19:53] <fawkes28> opposites attract! [19:53] <Aislinn> I think that Ron helps her loosen up a bit [19:53] <adamgryff> Ron is more laid back and give Hermione a break and Hermione gives Ron more structure [19:53] <Ravendor> I agree [19:53] <Poet> He's emotional, she's often more cool-headed. She's logical, he 's about action. [19:53] <ProfessorJackson> Hermione gets humor; Ron gets a sense of self-discipline [19:53] <Leda> i've wondered how much it means to herione that ron's from a big loving family, whereas she's an only child [19:53] <Aislinn> he has a good sense of humour - helps her not to be so serious [19:53] <DMD> I for one have never figured out the attraction....sorry [19:53] <Narya> I don't think they're opposites - I think they're quite alike in many ways [19:53] <harryfreak359> Yeah I agree, fawkes...she isn't so strict with her work and stuff [19:53] <Aislinn> right adma [19:53] <DumbleDebbie> Ron's got instinct, Hermione's got logic [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> In very broad terms, they compliment each others strengths and weaknesses. [19:53] <Poet> They temper each other. [19:53] <harryfreak359> I agree Narya [19:54] <Aislinn> yes sooner [19:54] <futureweasley> Hermione helps Ron's anger issues, and Ron helps to remove that large stick ... [19:54] <Leda> huh? [19:54] <Leda> oh. [19:54] <DumbleDebbie> Future!!! [19:54] <ProfessorJackson> it is important to remember that ron is really smart (think chess) and so they do have that in common... [19:54] <Narya> Ron and Hermione are both very driven in their different ways, but that's healthy [19:54] <Expelliarmas> for shame, FW [19:54] <Leda> lol!!! [19:54] <futureweasley> hey, I edited myself! [19:54] <DMD> hermione doubles Ron's anger issues!! [19:54] <Poet> Yes, they do. [19:55] <futureweasley> I think that she minimizes his anger when she's not the focal point of his anger [19:55] <Poet> Perhaps Hermione will help motivate Ron to use that intelligence in productive ways. [19:55] * SoonerGryffindor just now got what future was saying a minute ago laugh [19:55] <fawkes28> ron needs a woman smiliar to his mother and i think hermione and molly are strong women who help "structure" or "lead" their men [19:55] <SillyPutty> But she also talks him thru things... no matter what fights they were in she was ALWAYS there for him [19:55] <Leda> ron IS smart, but he does not identify himself as such [19:55] <Aislinn> she does act like Molly sometimes [19:55] <DumbleDebbie> yes, he is Leda [19:55] <Aislinn> and there is nothing like dear old Mum [19:55] <ProfessorJackson> right, leda...so hermione will be good for him! [19:55] <Narya> Too much like Molly [19:55] <SillyPutty> yeah she does, Aislinn... [19:55] <Leda> oh, that's very true! [19:55] <Ravendor> yeah, she does act like Molly sometimes [19:56] <DMD> he has low self esteme (?) and she can too sometimes [19:56] <SillyPutty> But ron is too much like Arthur [19:56] <Leda> he's not looking for a mother substitute, though [19:56] <futureweasley> Hermione is a mix of Molly, Minerva and Tonks [19:56] <DumbleDebbie> Ron's more 'big picture' smart and Hermione is more 'minutia' smart [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> Would Ron and Hermione ever have fallen for each other if it weren't for their continuing friendships with Harry? What role has Harry played in Hermione and Ron's relationship? [19:56] <Narya> Hermione needs to be her own person because Ron will respect her more for that [19:56] <Leda> yes they would [19:56] <Ravendor> I don [19:56] <SillyPutty> I think she is... [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> He was definitely the glue there for a couple of books [19:56] <ProfessorJackson> He's the leaven [19:56] <Expelliarmas> i don't think they would have even been friends, but for their connection to Harry [19:56] <Ravendor> oops..I don't know [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> they would have fallen apart in PoA for sure [19:56] <SillyPutty> He was, Harry is also the first one to get Ron to think about her in SS... [19:56] <DMD> I agree expel... [19:56] <fawkes28> i think harry has brough them closer together [19:57] <Poet> All those times that they fought, it was Harry that helped them get back together as friends. He was their glue for many years. [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> they've spent nearly all of the school time around each other b/c of Harry [19:57] <adamgryff> I'm not sure if they would be together without Harry [19:57] <Leda> they remind me of lily and james [19:57] <Narya> I think that Ron and Hermione would have made it through despite Harry ... although Harry has kept them together at times [19:57] *** artlady has joined #lounge [19:57] <futureweasley> they would have had a harder time of things...that's for sure [19:57] <fawkes28> ron would have just thought she was the annoying know it all and nothing more [19:57] <harryfreak359> I think they might have, but I think Harry helped a lot with it...he kept them from going compltetely opposite directions' [19:57] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy has joined #lounge [19:57] <futureweasley> wb artlady [19:57] <DMD> hi artlady [19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> they both love Harry, they both care for Harry, and they know that they have to be there for him [19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> wb artlady [19:57] <Leda> it might have taken the whole 7 years for them to find each other but they would've [19:57] <artlady> sorry got booted! [19:57] <SillyPutty> And in POA it was Hagrid who got them back together [19:57] <artlady> addreamy got me back! [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> The catalyst to Hermione being their friend may not have happened w/o Harry [19:57] <ProfessorJackson> It is Harry and their friendship with him that has shown both Ron and Hermione what they most love about each other...loyalty, love, devotion... [19:58] <Expelliarmas> Aside from Harry, they would have had nothing in common to even get them to be friends. [19:58] <DMD> what kind of relationship is based on a third person?! [19:58] <DumbleDebbie> hi artlady! [19:58] <Ravendor> true, Expel [19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> exactly debbie. I think the same thing [19:58] <Leda> i agree dmd [19:58] <fawkes28> yes, i think harry has brought out the best in both of them [19:58] <Leda> yes he did/does [19:58] <futureweasley> there is a candle, a wick and a match... [19:58] <Expelliarmas> Hermione is super smart and would have hung out with other smart types; Ron would have been intimidated by Hermione's academic side. [19:58] <Narya> I think they would have become friends more slowly without Harry, but it would still have happened because they are alike in many ways [19:58] <ProfessorJackson> It is not based on the third person...but the third person (Harry) was like the magnifying glass, letting them see each other [19:58] <adamgryff> a very loving one DMD, that's how I met my wife [19:58] <SillyPutty> I think the beginning of their friendship had to do with Harry but I think over time tey would of found each other [19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry kept them "connected" to each other when they would have fallen apart [19:58] <artlady> aww [19:58] <Leda> i agree narya [19:58] <Poet> Harry has played an important role in their relationship. He's had problems to solve and they've each had important qualities that helped them to solve his problem. By doing so Ron and Hermione got to see the best in each other. [19:58] <DumbleDebbie> ok FW, is Harry the match? [19:58] <Leda> yes professor! [19:59] *** monkeybubblenuts has joined #lounge [19:59] <DMD> OK I'll bite...how did you meet your wife? [19:59] <futureweasley> hence the Matchmaker...it's an age-old concept [19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> I would definitely say Hary was the match [19:59] <futureweasley> that's what I was saying Sooner [19:59] <SillyPutty> oh! good idea! the matchmaker... [19:59] <fawkes28> even though i dont think he realizes it [19:59] <SillyPutty> the common reason for 2 opposing things to unite [19:59] <Narya> Harry is the match in that trio - he's got more influence than he realises [19:59] <DMD> sorry I don't see the matchmaker thing [19:59] <Leda> i don't see harry every trying to set them up, though, despite so many opportunities to do so [19:59] * fawkes28 sings matchmaker matchmaker... [20:00] <DumbleDebbie> ok, now I'm going to have Fiddler on the Roof in my head [20:00] <futureweasley> the match is "despensible" in the scenario once the candle's been lit [20:00] <Leda> yes debbie! [20:00] <DMD> oh pleeeease [20:00] *** Patrick12 has joined #lounge [20:00] <ProfessorJackson> ooh, fw....don't say that! [20:00] <Narya> The match only sets the flame ... after that's done, it's no longer needed [20:00] <Patrick12> hi everyone! [20:00] <SillyPutty> He just brought twogether two people that would not of talked earlier in the game... [20:00] <SoonerGryffindor> Has the desire to not ruin their friendship been holding Ron and Hermione back or is it more a matter of pride? How is the war with Voldemort helping them to put aside their childishness and grow closer? [20:00] <Ravendor> hey, Patrick [20:00] <futureweasley> I'm just talking "romance" here Professor! Not friendship [20:00] <DumbleDebbie> hi Patrick [20:00] <futureweasley> lol [20:00] <Patrick12> hi [20:00] <ProfessorJackson> whew [20:01] <Patrick12> I haven't been on in a looooong time [20:01] <Expelliarmas> Pride has been their problem; Harry is the one who agonized over losing the friendship. [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree [20:01] <Aislinn> I think that it is a big step to move from friendship to coupledom, and they are probably afraid of what might happen if it ends up not working out [20:01] <Ravendor> yes, I agree [20:01] <SillyPutty> I think it will show Ron & Hermione how much they need each other [20:01] <Narya> Ron and Hermione have both suffered from being stubborn [20:01] <harryfreak359> I think that it makes them realize that they are ont the same side therefore they need to stick together [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> but we dont get a chance to see in their heads, so I bet they did think about it [20:01] <adamgryff> agree expell [20:01] <SillyPutty> sorta like the poison did [20:01] <Poet> It sobers them up a little. They put aside their differences and petty bickering. [20:01] <ProfessorJackson> yes, poet [20:01] <fawkes28> oh i think them being friends is the big factor - i know how hard it is to move from friends to a couple [20:01] <Patrick12> how can you do that talking about yourself thing again? [20:01] <Aislinn> they definitely seemed dto have moved past it, with DD's death [20:01] <Leda> both play a role. And the war's going to bring them closer with a sense of urgency [20:01] <fawkes28> you don't want to ruin the friendship [20:01] * Patrick12 [20:01] <Patrick12> ok [20:02] <DMD> they another turn at needing each other to solve the puzzle or riddle [20:02] * Patrick12 Patrick remembers [20:02] <Leda> yeah,but they'll be arguing again as soon as they can [20:02] <Patrick12> What are we talking about today? [20:02] <futureweasley> it usually turns out to be a very fruitful relationship...one that begins as friends [20:02] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy has quit [Bye] [20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> they will definitely be working together a lot this next book [20:02] <SillyPutty> canon couples patrick\ [20:02] <Patrick12> kool [20:02] <ProfessorJackson> Yeah...i totally expect the bickering to start up again. [20:02] <SillyPutty> brb have to close the store [20:02] <Patrick12> like who? [20:02] <Patrick12> ron and hermione? [20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Patrick [20:02] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy has joined #lounge [20:02] <DMD> until they remember the way it feels to truely work together with all guard down they will always be intimidated about the relationship [20:02] <Leda> the bickering is part of who they are as a couple imo [20:03] <Patrick12> kool [20:03] <Narya> I don't think they'll bicker as much as they did before - they're both adults now [20:03] <SoonerGryffindor> Will Ron ever tell Hermione that he's in love with her? [20:03] <futureweasley> yes DMD, I think so too [20:03] <ProfessorJackson> just like Molly and....everyone? [20:03] <Expelliarmas> or vice versa? [20:03] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> they argued alot less in HBP as opposed to the other books, all of their arguing in this book was about the same thing [20:03] <DumbleDebbie> He'd better [20:03] <Narya> I think he already has, without words [20:03] <fawkes28> i think she will do it first [20:03] <ProfessorJackson> see Ron did learn from his parents [20:03] <Aislinn> yes, I think he will [20:03] <adamgryff> It will take time, but yes! [20:03] <futureweasley> he had better...but I think Hermione will do it first [20:03] <Leda> yes [20:03] <Leda> s [20:03] <Patrick12> Do you think Ron and Ron and Hermione will EVER get back together? [20:03] <futureweasley> he already did tell Hermione he loves her [20:03] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> i hope so [20:03] <DumbleDebbie> at the very least by the Epilogue [20:03] * SoonerGryffindor will kick him in the shins if he doesnt [20:03] <Poet> They aren't appart. [20:03] <DumbleDebbie> (if they're both still alive) [20:03] <Patrick12> he DID!!!?? [20:03] <fawkes28> lol [20:03] <Patrick12> WHEN??!!! [20:03] <Expelliarmas> I think the war will intensify their feelings; Arthur and Molly married very quickly due to the war. [20:03] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> It will definatley happen sometime during the book [20:04] <futureweasley> in HBP when she was helping him with his homework [20:04] <fawkes28> debbie sad [20:04] <Leda> lol sooner [20:04] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> jo has taken so long to set this up [20:04] <adamgryff> Hard times seem to speed thing up [20:04] <Leda> yes expel [20:04] <Patrick12> What page? [20:04] <Patrick12> I want to see [20:04] <DMD> yul I hate for the war to be the reason for any of them to marry [20:04] <Patrick12> biggrin [20:04] <SoonerGryffindor> technicaly he already has, but I want it to be in a real romantic situation [20:04] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy has quit [Bye] [20:04] <futureweasley> he said "I love you Hermione" and she said " you'd better not let Lavender her you say that" or something like that [20:04] <Poet> The question that we are discussing is whether Ron will ever tell Hermione he loves her (in the future) [20:04] <Ravendor> brb [20:04] <DumbleDebbie> true Adam [20:04] <Poet> ah [20:04] <futureweasley> I'm not sure...you can check the HP Lexicon Patrick... [20:04] <ProfessorJackson> i don't think that jo will have anyone marry who hasn't yet left hogwarts [20:04] <Patrick12> pk [20:04] <Patrick12> ok [20:04] <Patrick12> brb [20:04] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy has joined #lounge [20:05] <Leda> he'll say it , but will she believe it? [20:05] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, that wasn't very romantic [20:05] <Aislinn> but Hermione appreciated it [20:05] <Narya> I think that Bill and Fleur's wedding will crystallise a lot of their feelings for each other [20:05] <futureweasley> I think she will believe him [20:05] <adamgryff> yes I believe she will [20:05] <futureweasley> Leda [20:05] <DumbleDebbie> crises tend to strip things down to what is *really* important [20:05] <Expelliarmas> my point was not that they'll marry; only that Arthur and Molly did so and the war was a big impetus to intensifying their feelings [20:05] <DMD> she wants to belive him [20:05] <Leda> uh huh narya [20:05] <fawkes28> yes it does, debbie [20:05] <ProfessorJackson> she will believe him...she already knows it, really. [20:05] <Poet> Especially when two people already know each other so well, it's hard to argue when someone says they love you under those circumstances. [20:06] <Expelliarmas> very true, Poet [20:06] <Narya> I don't think Hermione needs to hear Ron saying he loves her - she already knows [20:06] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> i dont know id she recognizes it as love yet [20:06] <futureweasley> I totally forgot about Bill & Fleur's wedding! that will either be a great time for them...or an extremely bad time for them [20:06] <SoonerGryffindor> the sad thing is, we will only get to see it if Harry does [20:06] <Leda> i hope she does, she deserves love and a sense of security and belonging [20:06] <SillyPutty> I think they both know it already... [20:06] <Expelliarmas> Oh, I think she does; I know I would. I'm no legillimens [20:06] <DMD> it's a fear factor kind of thing...who's gonna be the brave one [20:06] <Leda> harry'll be there [20:06] <futureweasley> right Sooner...I often think about that [20:06] <SillyPutty> Ron will have to be [20:06] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [20:06] <SoonerGryffindor> What are some similarities and differences between Arthur & Molly as a couple and Ron & Hermione? [20:06] <DMD> i hope harry's not there! [20:06] <Narya> Sooner, we might get another chapter which isn't written from Harry's POV [20:06] <SillyPutty> lol [20:07] <futureweasley> Harry will be there for Ron's declaration of love for Hermione? I don't know about all that [20:07] <Poet> Someone mentioned earlier how Ron is non-confrontational like his father. [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> I hope so Narya [20:07] <Narya> I think the relationships are totally different [20:07] *** SevenofNine has joined #lounge [20:07] <Expelliarmas> no, I don't think we'll see it directly ... it might get blurted out? [20:07] <SillyPutty> Hermione frets like Molly [20:07] <futureweasley> they are different to a point [20:07] <Expelliarmas> hello, Seven [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> I see that relationship as very similar [20:07] <DumbleDebbie> hi seven [20:07] <Narya> Ron is not his father [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> hello 7of9 [20:07] <Ravendor> hey, Seven [20:07] <SillyPutty> and she is overly concerned with Owls [20:07] <Aislinn> I think that in both cases, they are strong females, and more laid back males [20:07] <Patrick12> I can't find it sad [20:07] <fawkes28> molly and hermione are strong women who also have their weaknesses [20:07] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> Both Molly&Aruthur and Ron/Hermione keep eachother in check [20:07] <DMD> Ron's a passive agressive, except where malfoy is concerned [20:07] <Leda> arthur & molly don't fight that much, but they're pretty open about their feelings, both positive and negative [20:07] <SevenofNine> Hi all [20:07] <SillyPutty> like his dad [20:08] <Patrick12> brb [20:08] <ProfessorJackson> he's not entirely non-confrontational...he likes to confront (bicker) as long as it isn't too intense. I'm not sure that Arthur even goes that far. [20:08] <futureweasley> but we haven't really seen them in a "relationship"...their friendship is very different than Molly & Arthur's relationship [20:08] <Expelliarmas> they don't keep each other in check so much as they balance each other out. [20:08] <Poet> Yes, I agree that they seem to have qualities that balance each other well. [20:08] <fawkes28> both couples would give their lives for each other [20:08] <adamgryff> Hermione has some of the characteris of Molly like freaking out, but Ron is not his father. [20:08] *** Shard has joined #lounge [20:08] <futureweasley> yes Fawkes, I agree [20:08] <Shard> Hi All [20:08] <futureweasley> hi 7of9, Shard [20:08] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Shard [20:08] <DMD> yes fawkes I agree [20:08] <SevenofNine> Well, long established relationships take on a completely different "power" than new ones. [20:08] <DumbleDebbie> awww, that's sweet Fawkes, and important too [20:08] <adamgryff> hey shard [20:08] <Narya> I think that both couples love the other very deeply, but they are essentially different [20:08] <SoonerGryffindor> . Arthur & Molly seem to complement each other. She is emotional while he is calm. They might not always agree, but they have successfully raised a large family. Do they represent the perfect couple in the Harry Potter world? [20:08] <Ravendor> hey, Shard [20:08] <Shard> Hey FutureWeasly, I got to say I've always loved y our handle lol [20:09] <Leda> raising 7 kids together really changes your focus, too [20:09] <Expelliarmas> Ron would need Hermoine to realize his full potential; Molly has tried to get Arthur further along in his career, but that hasn't always worked out. [20:09] <futureweasley> thanks Shard! [20:09] <futureweasley> lol [20:09] <SillyPutty> I think so... [20:09] <Patrick12> Ron doesn't tell Hermione he loves her, I checked google [20:09] <Shard> I think Molly and Arthur are A perfect couple [20:09] <Narya> I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect couple, but they come pretty close [20:09] <fawkes28> i think they are as close as they can get [20:09] <SevenofNine> Well, I find them a very realistic couple, Sooner [20:09] <Leda> a realistic portrait of a solid couple [20:09] <Shard> Some people feel that Molly is the dominating one, that Arthur has no say. I don't think this is true [20:09] <fawkes28> but we are only seeing it from harry's point of view [20:09] <Narya> They're both very practical people [20:09] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, the Weasleys are great [20:09] <ProfessorJackson> I have to run guys...good talking with all of you! [20:09] <Leda> good point fawkes [20:09] <futureweasley> they are the base of OBHWF (which stands for One Big Happy Weasley Family) [20:09] <fawkes28> we dont know what goes on behind the scenes all year [20:09] <SillyPutty> Harry only has one relationship to base love on... [20:09] <Shard> Arthur knows when to put his foot down, he chooses which battles to fight [20:09] <adamgryff> I think that they are a good couple, but all couples have thier faults [20:09] <futureweasley> bye Prof!! [20:10] <Patrick12> Ron doesn't tell Hermione he loves her, I checked google [20:10] <Shard> I love the OBHWF [20:10] <Patrick12> Ron doesn't tell Hermione he loves her, I checked google [20:10] <SevenofNine> I think Molly and Arthur have probably found by now what they feel very strongly about. [20:10] <fawkes28> everyone has their secrets [20:10] <Patrick12> oops [20:10] <DumbleDebbie> me either Shard [20:10] *** ProfessorJackson has quit [Bye] [20:10] <Expelliarmas> the weasleys may not be the perfect couple, but they do seem to be the warmest; compared to the Frigidaires which are the Dursleys. [20:10] <Leda> BYE prof! [20:10] <SevenofNine> The other one knows when to push for their point of view and when not to. [20:10] <SillyPutty> romantic love anyways, and that is Arthur and Molly... Harry has seen how deep their love is for one another... and he knows that their love has gone thru alot [20:10] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [20:10] <Poet> Right Shard, I simply see the fact that like Hermione and Ron with their own special interests, the Weasley parents have their things that they are most passionate about. [20:10] <harryfreak359> LOL Expel [20:10] * Patrick12 very confused now [20:10] *** danae24 has joined #lounge [20:10] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome danae [20:10] <Ravendor> hey, danae [20:10] <danae24> Hi people!!! [20:10] <adamgryff> Compared to the Dursleys they are perfect [20:11] <SoonerGryffindor> What do Lucius & Narcissa Malfoy see in each other? Are they the antithesis to Arthur & Molly Weasley? [20:11] <futureweasley> they are what all wizarding families should aspire to be...loviing, emotionally stable, and still individuals [20:11] <Shard> *nod* ARthur is a free spirit, like Ron, who loves to tinker with Muggle things. Molly thinks he should have more ambition (Percy anyone)? [20:11] <SillyPutty> they see themselves in each other... [20:11] <Narya> Not so much the antithesis as a contrast, Sooner [20:11] <SevenofNine> Lucius and Narcissa may love each other [20:11] <Aislinn> I don't know if they are the antithesis, but the relationship is definitely different [20:11] <DMD> I see an arranged marraige [20:11] <Shard> Whao I'm still on Molly/Arthur lol [20:11] <fawkes28> oh they both just stand for the complete opposite things [20:11] <DumbleDebbie> the Malfoys probably see themselves in earch other, Blech! [20:11] <SevenofNine> Or theirs could be a marriage of common veiws and prestige. [20:11] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm actually more concerned about Bella and whats-his-face [20:11] <Narya> I don't see an arranged marriage, but I don't see much love there either [20:11] <Shard> Molly does tend to be the Law but I think Arthur does have his limit [20:11] <Expelliarmas> In their own way, Lucius and Narcissa are on the same page; not warm, but complimentary to each other. [20:11] <futureweasley> I think people like Lucius and Narcissa are bred to see things other than "love" as relationship glue [20:11] <adamgryff> I don't see love in the relationship, arranged more like it. [20:11] <Poet> I thinkg they love each other very much. Narcissa seems very commited to her family, like molly does. [20:11] <danae24> Yes, Lucius and Narcissa see a chance to obtain power in each other..... [20:11] <SevenofNine> Doesn't sound like there was much choice. [20:12] <Shard> Remember when Ron said that Arthur spanked the twins for trying an UV on Ron [20:12] <SillyPutty> they look alike as well as act alike... they are each other [20:12] <fawkes28> i think that they both love their child/children very much [20:12] <Leda> Good question--we don't get much to go on [20:12] <Ravendor> I agree, leda [20:12] <danae24> Yes, maybe they got married out of looks only..... [20:12] <SevenofNine> But people who have been married a long time tend to take on each other's appearances and mannerisms [20:12] <Narya> I don't think Lucius loves his son very much - there' s no real affection there like there is with Arthur and his boys [20:12] <Expelliarmas> also, if they were limited to "pure-blood" partners, their choices were going to be limited [20:12] *** matilda has joined #lounge [20:12] <Shard> For money and prestige is why Lucius and Narciess a got married [20:12] <Leda> they were expected to marry into pureblood [20:12] <Ravendor> hey, matilda [20:12] <fawkes28> definitely [20:12] <Shard> Molly and Arthur were nuaghty while at school [20:12] <adamgryff> agree expell [20:13] <SevenofNine> I think Lucius loves his son but he may not have been raised in a demonstrative home. [20:13] <matilda> How do you know that? Maybe they were very attracted to each other! [20:13] <Shard> Out to 3 in the morning. [20:13] <Shard> *snicker* [20:13] <SillyPutty> not only their looks, their point of view in life is the same and being dark arts loving pureblood families they probably had a lot of interaction with each other growing up [20:13] <DMD> she loves draco as a mother but i see lucious as one of the few purebloods she had to choose from [20:13] <danae24> Yes, I agree with Leda [20:13] <futureweasley> I agree Shard...feelings might be intermingled somewhere in there [20:13] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:13] <SevenofNine> Draco loves his family--he must have learned that somewhere [20:13] <Shard> I once made a joke about if Ron was with Molly when Harry was giving that tour [20:13] <DumbleDebbie> here are your cousins, pick the least deformed [20:13] <Narya> Does Draco love his family, Seven of Nine? [20:13] <danae24> I think they were the jock and cheerleader of Hogwarts in their time.......... [20:13] <Shard> And if Molly saw Rons bed, she would say "Why Ron that's where your father and I made Bill [20:13] <Expelliarmas> lol DD [20:13] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> haha DD [20:13] <DMD> draco is fiercly loyal i'm nnot so sure about love [20:13] <Narya> I don't think he does love them - I think he looks up to them, which isn't the same [20:13] <danae24> But they do seem a loving family between them..... [20:13] <Aislinn> Hey seven, can you leave the bolding for the questions, please. Thanks smile [20:14] <Leda> lucius is grooming his son for a life like his own; he probably loves draco like his father loved him [20:14] <Shard> Draco definatly loves his family [20:14] <SevenofNine> np [20:14] <SoonerGryffindor> Pansy seems to be the only girl that has been allowed into Draco's little circle. How are they the ideal matches for one another? [20:14] <SillyPutty> oh my g! shard... [20:14] <Expelliarmas> Draco loves his family, look at his anguish in HBP [20:14] <Narya> How do you work that out, Shard? [20:14] <Shard> *hehe* [20:14] <Poet> He's rich and evile. She's a pureblood snob...perfect! [20:14] <Expelliarmas> pugface and ferret boy, oh my, there's a twist [20:14] <SevenofNine> But do we know that Pansy is the only one? She's the only one we've seen. [20:14] <futureweasley> they aren't...they are also a "convenient" couple [20:14] *** Shard has quit [Bye] [20:14] <danae24> she hates Harry for starters............ [20:14] <Leda> Pansy--is she the one who looks like a bulldog? [20:14] <DMD> i see her as a mini bealatrix [20:14] <fawkes28> they may have had "play dates" or it has been strongly suggested by their parents [20:14] <DumbleDebbie> true Poet [20:15] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> Yeah Draco definatley loves his family. He was just raised to show it another way. [20:15] *** Shard has joined #lounge [20:15] <SillyPutty> Lucios seems to love his son but treats him the way we usually read of royal blood raising their family. Its okay for the mothers to show love to their children but the men have to be standoffish [20:15] <Shard> *sighj* [20:15] <Leda> oh, pugface [20:15] <futureweasley> she is Bellatrix-ish [20:15] <adamgryff> she's a pureblood looking for a pureblood family [20:15] <matilda> Well most slytherin girls seem freakishly ugly [20:15] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Shard [20:15] <SillyPutty> There is milllectn... [20:15] <matilda> like millicent bulstrode [20:15] <Narya> I think Lucius tolerates his son, no more [20:15] <futureweasley> much like "wizarding royalty" seeking [20:15] <danae24> Pansy is Draco's biggest fan, so she is just trying to perpetuate her species..... [20:15] <Shard> I was just making a joke that Molly and Arthur got married so quickly that maybe a baby Bill was on the way [20:15] <Narya> I think Narcissa loves her son though [20:15] <Poet> Pansy also seems to fawn over Draco a bit. Draco seems to like attention, just look at the thugs he has surrounding himself. [20:15] <SoonerGryffindor> brb guys [20:15] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [20:15] <Shard> I don't REALLy think they did it's just a joke [20:15] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [20:15] <matilda> i don't see why, we've only seen one scene between Draco and Luciius right? And that wasn't bad just "get better grades" [20:16] <Shard> *scared of backspace now* [20:16] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [20:16] <SillyPutty> I know it was funny, shard. I sprayed my drink on the mointor [20:16] <Shard> lol [20:16] <Narya> Draco surrounds himself with bullies because he is one himself [20:16] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [20:16] <danae24> just like Dudley [20:16] <matilda> he likes to be the leader [20:16] <futureweasley> he is the ringleader of the bullies [20:16] <Shard> What was the question about Pansy? [20:16] <DumbleDebbie> Sooner, now you see her, now you don't [20:16] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [20:16] <SillyPutty> and he has to be the best of the best... unfortunatly he lets his parents bribe his way there [20:16] <Leda> spittake! [20:16] *** mode/#lounge [+o SoonerGryffindor] by Snuffles [20:16] <harryfreak359> testing [20:16] <Expelliarmas> Draco needs the attention; Pansy is happy to slather him with it. (Blah!) [20:16] <DMD> what's up sooner? [20:16] <futureweasley> he needed people he could "play"...Pansy fits that definition perfectly [20:16] <Shard> I think Draco loves his family so much that he would betray LV for them [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> lag [20:17] <Narya> Pansy is happy to fawn over Draco [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> had to exit and ge back in [20:17] <matilda> Pansy seems dropped into the story to provide a girl for Draco [20:17] <DMD> wow ahrad [20:17] <harryfreak359> Okay my computer just went crazy on me [20:17] <matilda> no backstory [20:17] <DumbleDebbie> lag stinks! [20:17] <SillyPutty> Draco wants to be his father... [20:17] <Narya> I don't think Draco has the courage to betray anyone [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Were Cho and Cedric the classic good-looking couple, or was there more to their relationship than meets the eye? [20:17] <fawkes28> pooor, hf! [20:17] <matilda> more, I think. Both Quidditch players, for one thing! [20:17] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:17] <futureweasley> I don't know...I think that Cho did love Cedric [20:17] <fawkes28> i think cho admired him [20:17] <Narya> Classic good looking couple, Sooner - no real substance [20:17] <DMD> pure eye candy [20:17] <futureweasley> hi CD [20:17] <Ravendor> I think there was more, but I'm not sure how much [20:17] <Expelliarmas> Better boo-hoo Cho and Cedric than Cho and Harry. [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> hey CD [20:17] <DumbleDebbie> hi CD [20:17] <Shard> I think Cho and Cedric were a good couple, so much so that Cho couldn't see Harry fopr anything but a connection to Cedric [20:17] <Leda> chos thought so [20:17] <fawkes28> and cedric thought she was pretty [20:17] <SillyPutty> lol! [20:17] <SevenofNine> I think Cho and Cedric were two intelligent people with common interests--and obviously some spark as well. [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [20:17] <Shard> Harry was rebound for Cho [20:17] <adamgryff> I think it was quidditch and it didn't hurt that Cho looked good [20:17] <Aislinn> I think there was probably some more to it [20:17] <Shard> stupid cho... [20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> poor hosepipe [20:18] <harryfreak359> Pretty much just the good-looking couple [20:18] <SillyPutty> agree Shard... [20:18] <futureweasley> right SevenofNine [20:18] <DMD> ha sooner [20:18] <harryfreak359> with maybe a little bit more [20:18] <danae24> for Cho to really grieve for Cedric, that means that their feelings for each other were really strong.... [20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> which leadds to my next question........ [20:18] <Aislinn> they probably were better suited to each other than Harry and Cho were [20:18] <matilda> How much depth does any romance have at that age? 15-16? [20:18] <SillyPutty> I think there were feelings there... I think Cedy was Cho's first love [20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> Did Cho inadvertently end up using Harry as a sort of "replacement" due to her grief over losing Cedric? [20:18] <matilda> definitely [20:18] <danae24> Yes! [20:18] <Shard> Yes Sooner [20:18] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [20:18] <Shard> Definatly [20:18] <matilda> just because of the timing [20:18] <Aislinn> yes [20:18] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:18] <SillyPutty> defenitly... [20:18] <Ravendor> yes [20:18] <Narya> Cho couldn't grieve properly so Harry filled that void for her [20:18] <harryfreak359> yeah I think so [20:18] <Expelliarmas> Yes, and as a shoulder to cry [and cry, and cry, and cry] on [20:18] <SillyPutty> stupid cho [20:18] <fawkes28> i think she wanted someone to grieve with [20:18] <adamgryff> Yes, becuase she knew Harry liked her [20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> I think she did use him, yes [20:18] <matilda> bad sillyputty! [20:18] <futureweasley> Cho never did make Cedric's death about her...and I think that attests to her true feelings for him [20:18] <danae24> Harry became his fall back boy...... [20:18] <matilda> cho isn't stupid, just very sad [20:18] <Shard> All she ever wanted to talk about was Cedric [20:19] <SillyPutty> sorry... but it upsets me... [20:19] <SevenofNine> Well, I think there had been some attraction for Harry and it wasn't difficult for Cho to turn to him--but she went to him on the rebound. [20:19] <Shard> I expect to see that in OOTP [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> me too sillyputty [20:19] <Aislinn> I think she did like him, but she definitely used him to fill the void [20:19] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [20:19] <matilda> Cho would have dated Harry first if harry had asked first [20:19] <Narya> Cho was pretty immature about her feelings [20:19] <SillyPutty> I think she was attracted to Harry.... but I think she couldn't see him beyond his connection to Cedirc anymore [20:19] <artlady> can't think clearly during grief [20:19] *** Impedimenta has joined #lounge [20:19] <futureweasley> I think so too Matilda [20:19] <fawkes28> or felt like the girl who dated him and the last guy to see him alive should be together [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> moving away from hosepipe/Harry..................... [20:19] <matilda> Yeah, but to have a boyfriend murdered. When you're that age, and then nobody will talk about it [20:19] <futureweasley> Harry was a minute too late for that [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:19] <SevenofNine> they say that people should wait 2 years after a death or break up of a serious relationship before getting involved again, I hear. [20:19] <Expelliarmas> she was conflicted about her feellings [gosh, that sounds so girly, I know], but turning to Harry to sort them out? Oy! [20:19] <Poet> Yes, it seems she may have liked them both a little but Cedric just happened to be the first boyfriend, with Harry unfortunately getting boyfriend status with bad timing. [20:20] <matilda> that's a long time to be lonely! [20:20] <Aislinn> and she definitely didn't wait long enough [20:20] <Narya> Cho didn't have that kind of maturity, though, Seven of Nine [20:20] <SevenofNine> I agree Poet. [20:20] <futureweasley> no she didn't [20:20] <SoonerGryffindor> What changes occurred in Ginny Weasley to help Harry notice her? [20:20] <Expelliarmas> she would have been better off seeing Hermione for counseling [20:20] <SillyPutty> She wasn't over cediced yet [20:20] <SillyPutty> she talked around him [20:20] <matilda> Ginny didn't change, she just stopped being so shy around harry [20:20] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [20:20] <DMD> I think harry changed more than ginny [20:20] <Narya> Ginny started being who she's always been [20:20] <fawkes28> she definitely matured [20:20] <Expelliarmas> she became more of herself [20:20] <matilda> let her true nature show [20:20] <Shard> Ginny became more confident and was able to move beyond her shyness [20:20] <SevenofNine> Oh, I'm not saying that Cho should have waited two years . . . [20:20] <danae24> her confidence........ she had to become braver to show the true Ginny! [20:20] <futureweasley> she was with a boy...and started to be his friend...to actually talk to him [20:20] <Leda> she's an emotional girl; she has alot to cry about [20:20] * SoonerGryffindor knows that Shard has a lot to say on this wink [20:20] <fawkes28> yes she deinitely became more confident [20:20] <matilda> yes\ [20:20] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> I think Ginny just matured alot, although I dont nessacarily like it. [20:20] <SevenofNine> But it would have been healthier to have waited longer than she did. [20:20] <matilda> And the sporty side helped [20:21] <fawkes28> and got over that awkward stage [20:21] <Expelliarmas> see, Hermione gives great advise, hosepipe should've gone to her for counseling [20:21] <SillyPutty> but she should of waited loner then 2 months [20:21] <adamgryff> she started being herself and actually talked to harry [20:21] <matilda> all that quidditch [20:21] <Narya> Ginny has always been there or thereabouts in Harry's life [20:21] <danae24> and not only that little girl who was a big fan of Harry.... [20:21] <futureweasley> she was Harry's "fan girl"...then she took it down a couple notches [20:21] <harryfreak359> I think that she became herself, and she showed that she wasn't any ordinary girl...and I don't think he was ready for another girl like Cho [20:21] <Shard> Ginny's awesome, poor girl was possesed by TR for a year [20:21] <SevenofNine> lol sillyputty [20:21] <CarpeDiem> She treated Harry like Harry, not like the famous boy who lived. [20:21] <Leda> she needed a good counselor, not a relationship on the rebound with anyone, least of all harry [20:21] <Poet> She dated other people which allowed her to focus on something besides Harry - then Harry could see her in a more normal/non-shy environment [20:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Shard. She has always been the same, Harry just finally got his head out and noticed her [20:21] <futureweasley> yes Poet [20:21] <SevenofNine> Another thing I love about her Carpe [20:21] <Narya> She's not overawed by Harry - which Harry appreciates [20:21] <danae24> Hermione will become a Magical psicologist....... [20:21] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [20:21] <matilda> Ginny had to stop worshipping harry for being this rock-star dude and start appreciating the "real Harry"-- which in time lets him appreciate her as well [20:22] <SevenofNine> Ginny and Harry share so much [20:22] *** harrypotterfan123 has joined #lounge [20:22] <CarpeDiem> Good point Matilda [20:22] <SevenofNine> LV being a major one [20:22] <SillyPutty> He stopped seeing the world in Cho coloured glasses and noticed Ginny was more then just Ron's sister... [20:22] <Aislinn> She let go and let him see who she really was [20:22] <Shard> Exaclty 7 of 9 [20:22] <DMD> age can be a wonderful thing [20:22] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point Matida [20:22] <futureweasley> her talent stands up to his own...she is worthy of him, and vice verse. it took a few books to get them there [20:22] <SillyPutty> that she had a mind of her own [20:22] <SevenofNine> I found it very interesting Ginny's reaction to the dementor on the train in PoA [20:22] <Narya> Ginny and Harry share the same nature and they are true equals [20:22] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [20:22] <futureweasley> yes Narya [20:22] <fawkes28> i think subconsciously though harry didn't want to initially explore the possibly of him dating his best mate's sister [20:22] <matilda> I'm glad JKR kept Ginny out of it for a few books, it kept it interesting and not too obvious what was going to happen [20:22] <Shard> Me too 7 of 9 [20:22] <SillyPutty> very true Narya.... [20:22] <adamgryff> Much like Ron, Harry finally figures it out. [20:22] <Expelliarmas> once Harry stopped handing Cho kleenex, he had plenty of time to notice Ginny and how well she handled her own world. [20:22] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has joined #lounge [20:22] <SevenofNine> I really think she will be with him in the end. [20:22] <Aislinn> they share a sense of humour, a gift for Quidditch, a sense of adventure - I think they are very well suited [20:22] * futureweasley is a big-time H/G shipper [20:22] <Shard> I bvet she had a revist of TR and the CoS [20:22] <futureweasley> hi wagga [20:22] <Shard> Maybve even more then she originally remembered [20:23] <CarpeDiem> Yes Aislinn, it's when you stop worrying about impressing the person that you start to impress the person smile [20:23] <Ravendor> I agree, Aislinn [20:23] <fawkes28> no, really, future? [20:23] <fawkes28> lol [20:23] * Shard same here FW [20:23] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [20:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi all, only here briefly. [20:23] <Aislinn> exactly carpe [20:23] <Poet> Yes, she was always there in the background of the story that Jo was telling wink [20:23] <Expelliarmas> very true Carpe [20:23] <futureweasley> stop it, fawkes...lol [20:23] <SevenofNine> Hi WWW [20:23] <matilda> yeah but it wasn't like Ron/Hermy where we could see it coming forever [20:23] <SoonerGryffindor> What are some experiences that Harry and Ginny have shared and how have these incidences strengthened the bond between the two of them? [20:23] <Shard> The CoS for one [20:23] <SillyPutty> so, in harry's world she was always worth noticing when she was around? [20:23] <SoonerGryffindor> man, where do you even begin on this one? [20:23] <Expelliarmas> ginny being rescued by Harry [20:23] <SevenofNine> LV [20:23] <Expelliarmas> quidditch [20:23] <fawkes28> definitely [20:23] <matilda> feeling our of place in their own families [20:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Percy for another. [20:23] <adamgryff> the connection of LV has to be the strongest [20:23] <Ravendor> definitely CoS [20:23] <SevenofNine> MoM [20:24] <Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy> The DOM [20:24] <futureweasley> she's the only one who intimately knows what it's like to be used by LV [20:24] <Shard> Definatly Quiddtich!! [20:24] <Narya> They've shared being in the DA together, which is a huge bond ... and Quidditch [20:24] <danae24> bye guy.... need to go!!!! [20:24] <SevenofNine> Love of the Dursley family [20:24] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [20:24] <futureweasley> Quidditch...love for the Weasleys [20:24] <Shard> The DoM to me was like the Troll scene in PS [20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> bye danae [20:24] <danae24> see you on the lounge!!! [20:24] <matilda> a flippant sense of humor [20:24] <Leda> shoot, the delay is really bad for me. See y'll next time! [20:24] <Aislinn> bye danae [20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> wb debbie [20:24] *** Poet has quit [Bye] [20:24] <Ravendor> bye, danae [20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> bye leda [20:24] *** danae24 left #lounge [] [20:24] <Shard> Harry relaised he could count on not just Neville and Luna buit Ginny as well [20:24] <fawkes28> harry spending time with the weasleys definitely helped [20:24] <Narya> They experienced DD's death together as well [20:24] <harrypotterfan123> quidditch [20:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ginny has acted in Harry's place, like a deputy [20:24] <futureweasley> oh, their sense of humor is definitely a big one [20:24] <Expelliarmas> eating chocolate in the library and getting chased by Pince [20:24] <DumbleDebbie> ugh, that's what I get for bad-mouthing the lag [20:24] <Aislinn> they shared a really powerful event in the Chamber of Secrets [20:24] <futureweasley> lol DDebbie [20:24] <matilda> they "get" each other's humor, unlike Hermione who never seems to [20:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She's defended Harry, too. [20:25] <SevenofNine> I loved that Ginny--in spite of Bill being in the hospital wing and dealing with her own grief--was able to help Harry. [20:25] <Aislinn> and have been through the injury to Arthur, and to Ron, and to Bill [20:25] <futureweasley> that biting sarcasm [20:25] *** Impedimenta left #lounge [] [20:25] <SillyPutty> she is feircely loyal to Harry... [20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> humor, the entire weasly family, Chamber of Secrets, being possesd by LV, quidditch [20:25] <Aislinn> and just genuinely enjoy each other's company [20:25] <SillyPutty> and to all her friends... jsut like Harry [20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> just to start the list smile [20:25] <Shard> *nod* Ginny's always been loyal to Harry [20:25] <Narya> They both see what's important [20:25] <futureweasley> I think Lily would have approved! [20:25] <SevenofNine> Yes Aislinn [20:25] <Shard> Even in CoS she stood up to Malfoy for Harry [20:25] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She is very loyal. Loyal to her mum in accepting Fleur as sister in law [20:25] <DMD> amen future [20:25] <SillyPutty> she looks like his mom? [20:25] <Expelliarmas> well, must go and torture my students. See y'all on Saturday. [20:25] <Narya> I definitelyy think Lily would have approved, future [20:25] <matilda> almost too loyal, I'd like to see her have her own agenda as well and not just be harry's sheild-bearer [20:25] <Ravendor> bye, Expel [20:25] <DumbleDebbie> Ginny seems to understand Harry better than anyone IMO [20:25] <fawkes28> she is attracted to harry's strength and i think harry's is attracted to his calmness and openness [20:25] <Aislinn> bye expie [20:25] <SevenofNine> I agree DDebbie [20:26] <adamgryff> bye expell [20:26] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Expie [20:26] <Shard> I think Ginny does have her own agenda [20:26] <SillyPutty> she does... [20:26] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [20:26] <Aislinn> she does understand him very well debbie [20:26] <DMD> she will let him go to do what he must knowing he'll come back [20:26] <Narya> I think it's a match between two equals - worthy of each other [20:26] <SevenofNine> ?? Shard? [20:26] <Shard> However any of my speculation is only Fan fic worthy *sigh* [20:26] <SillyPutty> yeah, her agenda is to get Harry... [20:26] <futureweasley> Shard, every teenaged girl does!! [20:26] <futureweasley> lol [20:26] <fawkes28> yes, DMD [20:26] <Shard> lol [20:26] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye those that must depart. (Stop trying to make me feel guilty) smile [20:26] <SevenofNine> Ahhhh [20:26] <Shard> I meant beyond that lol [20:26] <Aislinn> she recognizes that they are suited to each other, and goes after what she wants [20:26] <Narya> Ginny has always been her own person - she's never lived in Harry's shadow [20:26] <fawkes28> they are soulmates! [20:27] <Ravendor> I agree, Narya [20:27] <Ravendor> yes! [20:27] <Aislinn> I don't really see that as an agenda [20:27] <DumbleDebbie> She seems more secure than the other Hogwarts girls about her age [20:27] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She embarrassed the daylights out of Harry with that valentine in COS [20:27] <SevenofNine> She's strong because she's had to be holding her own as the youngest in a family of boys. [20:27] <Narya> She's feisty too, and very independent [20:27] <CarpeDiem> Nayra, good point. She was always her own Weasley as well. [20:27] <SillyPutty> They match on so many levels - egven subconsouly... [20:27] <Shard> Exaclty, and same for Neville (sorry had to say that), I think Ginny hates as Ron hates living under her brother's past achivments [20:27] <matilda> well everyone wants her... that must make for some security! [20:27] *** Sirius_Is_My_Homeboy left #lounge [] [20:27] <Shard> Ginny just doesn't complain about it [20:27] <DMD> she will ot stand in his way or force him to take her along but will be whatever he needs [20:27] <Narya> She had to be , Carpe, in a family of boys!! [20:27] <SevenofNine> But I'm not sure Ginny is as bothered by it as Ron is [20:27] *** harrypotterfan123 has quit [Bye] [20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Why is Harry attracted to Ginny and not Hermione or Luna or any other girl? [20:27] <SillyPutty> and she gives him a balance he doesn't get with anyone else... [20:27] <matilda> but just *being* a girl confers specialness on ginny in that family [20:27] <futureweasley> Ginny learned how to deal with guys from a very young age [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> Ginny''s stronger [20:28] <matilda> harry likes long, shiny hair [20:28] <SevenofNine> Why is anyone attracted to who they are attracted to? [20:28] *** Poet has joined #lounge [20:28] <Ravendor> lol, matilda [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> lol Matilda [20:28] <Shard> I think the reason Ginny broke up with Dean was because he was too old fashioned, IE opening doors for her and helping her through etc [20:28] <matilda> no it's the hair [20:28] <Aislinn> she is his soul mate [20:28] *** mode/#lounge [+o Poet] by Snuffles [20:28] <fawkes28> nice point, seven [20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> Ginny is Ginny.... nuff said [20:28] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione is the best friend like Ron, but she isn't as much fun as Ron. Ginny like Ron [20:28] <Shard> lol [20:28] <Narya> Harry is attracted to Ginny because she's a real person - not a fairytale- and they have similar natures [20:28] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [20:28] <matilda> with long shiny hair [20:28] <Aislinn> yes narya [20:28] <SevenofNine> Yes, Aislinn! Hair would be too superficial [20:28] <futureweasley> Ginny's a female Ron...potential to be a best friend, beauty inside and out...talent and shared interests and experiences [20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> lol, yeah, its all the hair [20:28] <adamgryff> Because Ginny is always there waiting for him [20:28] <fawkes28> she is athletic and is willing to go along for ride...she understands him [20:28] <Narya> Harry loves her for who she is [20:28] <SillyPutty> and he doesn't have Ginny;s voice as his jimmeny cricket [20:29] <fawkes28> lol future [20:29] *** Leda has quit [Bye] [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> oooh, I like that Narya [20:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ginny embodies much Harry likes about the Weasleys, eg Fred & George [20:29] <Aislinn> exactly narya [20:29] <SevenofNine> Ginny and Harry were FRIENDS first. [20:29] <Shard> lol good point WWW [20:29] <SevenofNine> The rest is just frosting on the cake. [20:29] <DumbleDebbie> they have a similar sense of humor, they both have had the inner strength to fight Voldy for starters [20:29] <Narya> Harry doesn't have to impress her - there's no need [20:29] <futureweasley> I know that 7of9 [20:29] <Shard> Exaclty 7 of 9, that was IMPPORTANT for H/G [20:29] <matilda> well, harry's found the following girls attractive: parvati, fleur, cho, and ginny! what do they all have in common? [20:29] <Aislinn> they just click on so many levels [20:29] *** monkeybubblenuts has quit [Bye] [20:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hair [20:29] <SillyPutty> long hair? [20:29] <Narya> And Ginny doesn't need to do anything except be herself [20:29] <matilda> exaclty [20:29] <SevenofNine> Most girls that age have long hair. [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie, I think t This post has been edited by futureweasley: Sep 27 2006, 08:37 PM |
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[20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie, I think the inner strength is a big bonus
[20:29] <Shard> Long STRAIGHT hair [20:29] <matilda> but not shiny! [20:29] <futureweasley> he's already impressed her on a level that they both understand [20:29] <DMD> she fits like a pair of comfy slippers [20:29] <SillyPutty> I didn't... [20:29] <fawkes28> yes, narya [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> and something that would appeal to Harry immensely [20:30] <matilda> hermione's is bushy, luna's is wavy [20:30] <futureweasley> slippers!! yes [20:30] <Aislinn> Harry wants more in a girl than her hair guys [20:30] <SillyPutty> I had hermione hair... [20:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But not necessarily BEAUTIFUL long hair [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> ok, now I have the song 'Hair' in my head! [20:30] <fawkes28> they just had to get past that awkward phase between them [20:30] <Narya> Harry is attracted by more than her hair [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> 'long beautiful hair, gleaming, streaming, ....' [20:30] <matilda> Ginny doesn't pressure Harry or nag him, or mother him too much [20:30] <Narya> Harry is attracted to the girl herself [20:30] <futureweasley> I feel a filk coming on!! [20:30] <matilda> I know... facetious [20:30] <SevenofNine> I agree Narya. [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> lol FW [20:30] <SillyPutty> she lets harry be himself... [20:30] <fawkes28> i think he is attracted to her presence [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> matilda will have to do that one [20:30] <harryfreak359> whoa I've been multi-tasking too much...I've got to pay more attention [20:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She is a bit of a daredevil who doesn't think too much of the rules [20:30] <Poet> She also has a certain fierce intensity to her. She seems so strong in her presence, I agree fawkes28 [20:31] <SillyPutty> she supports him and is there for him when he needs her. She senses his moods very well [20:31] <matilda> harry can relax around her [20:31] <Shard> I'm such a romantic sap lol [20:31] <Narya> he's attracted by her independence, feistiness, free spirit and sheer cheek [20:31] * fawkes28 is ready for future to start belting it out [20:31] <SoonerGryffindor> What do we know about how James and Lily ended up together? What can we guess? [20:31] *** monkeybubblenuts has joined #lounge [20:31] <SevenofNine> Ginny has learned alot from the twins--and it will come in handy, I think. [20:31] <futureweasley> I'll save it for next time! hehehe [20:31] <DumbleDebbie> she's the only young wizard who can stand toe to toe with Harry [20:31] <matilda> well we know taht james had to deflate his ego [20:31] <SevenofNine> Hmmmm, Sooner. [20:31] <Poet> We know that Lily didn't think James was "all that" at first. [20:31] <SillyPutty> I think part of her reminds him of Hermione - she is a combination of all the positive women in his life... [20:31] <futureweasley> they got together in the same way that Ron and Hermione will get together [20:31] <Shard> I think the Shrieking Shack may have been a factor for James/Lilly [20:31] <fawkes28> james had to mature big time [20:31] * SoonerGryffindor makes arrangements to meet with futureweasley to write another filk laugh [20:31] <adamgryff> I have always pictured Lily as a version of Ginny [20:31] <harryfreak359> I think james always had a crush on Lily, and then Lily found out that he was actually a good person [20:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In SWM Lily told James off [20:31] <SevenofNine> The good girl wanting to "save" the bad boy? [20:31] <Narya> I think James and Lily were meant to be right from the start - James just had to grow up and stop being arrogant [20:31] <Shard> I think that was what deflated James head [20:31] *** jgarden14 has joined #lounge [20:31] <CarpeDiem> Sooner, from Snape's memory they were not always close. [20:31] *** jgarden14 has quit [Bye] [20:31] <Aislinn> she is talented, funny, confident, athletic, popular - why wouldn't he like her? [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> could be Shard [20:32] <futureweasley> detest turns to respect turns to friendship turns to love [20:32] <Poet> We know that James may have had a bit of a fawning fan girl crowd. [20:32] <SevenofNine> But James was really good? [20:32] <DumbleDebbie> we seem to be missing some major pieces of the Lily/James story [20:32] <matilda> how was lily athletic? [20:32] <futureweasley> yes we do Debbie [20:32] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Sorry, afta go. Have to get ready to go to work. sad [20:32] <SevenofNine> But I think Lily was popular because she was nice. [20:32] <futureweasley> it's driving me crazy!! [20:32] <futureweasley> bye Wagga [20:32] <Shard> Yeah we are mnissing alot of Marauder story line [20:32] <Ravendor> bye, Wagga [20:32] <SevenofNine> Bye WWW [20:32] <Shard> Which makes me surprised that some get so cuaght up with it [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> Oh, if JKR ever writes any more HP, I soooooo want it to be Maurader themed! [20:32] <DumbleDebbie> bye Wagga [20:32] <matilda> i hope it will all be in book 7 [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> bye WWW [20:32] <SillyPutty> dang itr - have to go... school and they moved the class... [20:32] <Shard> Bye WWW [20:32] <futureweasley> I want all the backstory [20:32] <SillyPutty> by yall [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> bye sillyputty [20:32] <matilda> but was Lily ever described as athletic? [20:32] <Poet> We learn in Book 3 that Sirius and James were among the most talented wizards in their year. Lily was also a very talented student. [20:33] <futureweasley> she should do it for charity [20:33] <DumbleDebbie> bye silly [20:33] <Shard> Jo siad she would give it [20:33] <fawkes28> in my mind i always pictured ginny very similar to lily...i can't explain why though [20:33] <matilda> or as playing Quidditch? [20:33] <CarpeDiem> I think we see a similar situation with James and Lilly. She did not treat him like the 'Superstar' that everyone else did. She was real around him. [20:33] <Ravendor> bye, Sillyputty [20:33] *** SillyPutty has quit [Bye] [20:33] <SevenofNine> JK said she will provide enough backstroy it will not be necessary to do a prequel. [20:33] <monkeybubblenuts> shame [20:33] <CarpeDiem> I bet he appreciated the honesty. Someone to call him out on his actions. [20:33] <Ravendor> me too, fawkes [20:33] <DumbleDebbie> must be the HAIR Fawkes LOL [20:33] <Ravendor> lol [20:33] <Narya> Lily hasn't been described as "athletic", matilda [20:33] <futureweasley> somehow, I think I could never have enough backstory [20:33] <matilda> me too! [20:33] <SevenofNine> Me too [20:33] <adamgryff> ditos [20:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we also see Harry and Ginny as the look-alike to James/Lily, but their personalites are oppostie. Harry has Lily's and GInny has a bit of James in her [20:33] <DumbleDebbie> true FW [20:33] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has quit [Bye] [20:33] <SevenofNine> Gotta go. Bye all [20:34] *** SevenofNine has quit [Bye] [20:34] <DMD> you she has backstory enough for 10 books [20:34] <DumbleDebbie> ooo, nice Sooner! [20:34] <SoonerGryffindor> bye seven [20:34] <matilda> kind of like how ron is like molly? [20:34] <futureweasley> yes, they are pint sized James and Lilys [20:34] *** Padfoot4Eva has joined #lounge [20:34] <Shard> I agree Sooner [20:34] <adamgryff> I agree Sooner [20:34] <Poet> I personally think James was attracted to Lily's fireyness, intelligence, and magical talent. I'm sure looks didn't hurt. [20:34] <matilda> they are only a few years younger than when James and Lily married, had harry, and died [20:34] <DMD> i think james probably had to work to get lily [20:34] <futureweasley> Ginny draws so much on what we know of Lily...it's like she's a "mold" [20:34] <CarpeDiem> Good point Poet. [20:34] <adamgryff> Did the war bring them together quicker [20:34] <Narya> Harry has both James and Lily in him, and Sirius - Ginny seems to have more of Lily as she's got older [20:34] <matilda> the war probably helped [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Petunia seems to have wanted an ambitious but extremely normal husband, and Vernon seems to have fit the bill. Are they a match made in heaven? [20:35] <Narya> A convenient match [20:35] <Shard> They seem to be [20:35] <matilda> maybe. but there are so many secrets there [20:35] <fawkes28> oh they can have each other [20:35] <DMD> totally [20:35] <Aislinn> well, I don't know if it was heaven [20:35] <Poet> They certainly seem to deserve one another. [20:35] <Padfoot4Eva> haha...heaven not so much [20:35] <Shard> Petunia has her secrrets though from Vernon though [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> or Hades [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I can think of where this match belongs, and heaven aint it laugh [20:35] <adamgryff> Not heaven, but they can have each other [20:35] <Aislinn> they do seem to deserve each other [20:35] <Shard> lol Hades yes [20:35] <matilda> it seems to me that a match made in heaven shouldn't have so many secrets in it [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [20:35] <DMD> a match made in polyester [20:35] <futureweasley> agreed Aislinn [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> lol DMD [20:35] <fawkes28> i don't think petunia cared who she married as long as he couldnt do magic [20:35] <matilda> a match made in a very clean kitchen [20:36] <Padfoot4Eva> haha matilda [20:36] <Aislinn> lol [20:36] <SoonerGryffindor> good point fawkes [20:36] <CarpeDiem> I'm not sure I've seen the same kind of "love" that we see in someone like the Weasley's relationship. We don't see those intimate "mollywobbles" moments. It's hard to tell one way or another. [20:36] <matilda> well why would any wizard marry HER? [20:36] <fawkes28> i think she tried to find james' opposite [20:36] <futureweasley> it's like Petunia is a couch and Vernon is the plastic cover [20:36] <Narya> Great chatting to you all - see you around the Lounge!! Bye [20:36] <fawkes28> and she did [20:36] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Narya [20:36] <futureweasley> bye Narya [20:36] *** Narya has quit [Bye] [20:36] <Shard> Petunia almost seemed afraid when she mentioned the Dementors didn't she? [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> the Dursleys seem to be married b/c that's what 'normal' people do [20:36] <DMD> i think it mattered a great deal who she married [20:36] <Shard> But Vernon didn't seem angry at all [20:36] <Padfoot4Eva> i think she was looking for a provider mostly [20:36] <fawkes28> he wanted someone to take care of him and she does that [20:36] <Shard> stunned more like [20:36] <Poet> Oh, you all kill me. The Dursleys are a very interesting couple for sure. [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> liek it was expected so they did it, but that's the extent of it [20:36] <CarpeDiem> Shard - she knows more than we think she does. smile [20:36] <Shard> Have you noticed that no couples are divorced? [20:36] <futureweasley> she married the person who was the polor opposite of her "first love" [20:36] <Shard> I agree Petunia does knore more [20:36] <artlady> hmmm [20:37] <fawkes28> it's convinent for both of them [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, now that we are on the topic of matches made n heaven wink .............. [20:37] <DMD> she was running as far away from anything magic as she could get [20:37] <Shard> Who's her first love FW? [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> Hagrid is rugged, Olympe seems refined. What do you think of their relationship? They are both half-giants in a world with few giants left. How do you think their commonalities and differences influenced their coming together? [20:37] <futureweasley> Snape [20:37] <futureweasley> lol [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> who's first love FW? [20:37] <Shard> lol Maybe FW maybe [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> oh, ICK [20:37] <Padfoot4Eva> is it mean to say that their relationship creep s me out a skoodge? [20:37] <adamgryff> I like Hagrid and Olympe match [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> FUTUREWEASLEY!!!!!! [20:37] <matilda> but they're both strong, brave, and loyal [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I will get you for that [20:37] <fawkes28> LOL [20:37] <Poet> Watch out. [20:37] <Shard> Why? [20:37] <futureweasley> just let it go Sooner [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> lol [20:37] <fawkes28> you two make me laugh [20:38] <DMD> they both have gentle hearts [20:38] <Shard> Snape desevers to be cleaned by the cleaning freak [20:38] <harryfreak359> I think that them both being half-giants helped them get togheter [20:38] <SoonerGryffindor> *deep breaths* [20:38] <matilda> the rugged/ refined thing is just on the surface [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> uh-oh, storm's a brewin', Oklahoma tornado warnings [20:38] <Shard> I love Hagrid/Olymp, they are awesome [20:38] <matilda> beneath they're very similar [20:38] <futureweasley> they are so cute [20:38] * harryfreak359 comforts Sooner [20:38] <CarpeDiem> It may be another case of being "real" with the person you are with. Around Hagrid she doesn't have to hide anything. He certainly doesn't hide anything from her smile [20:38] <Shard> Their the adventure couple, they can do battle with the baddiest and no holding anyone back [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> What would their kids look like? [20:38] * SoonerGryffindor is plotting her revenge on futureweasley and Shard in the corner of the booth [20:38] <matilda> Olympe shows up with 6 giant horses... no wonder hagrid loves her [20:38] <monkeybubblenuts> huuuge jiddies [20:38] <matilda> ummm huge? [20:38] <futureweasley> she lived in denial for so long about who she was...Hagrid helped to open a door for her [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner [20:38] <Aislinn> excellent point carpe [20:38] <Poet> I think it's lovely that they could sort of like each other. Olympe may seem all proper, but she's not above getting down and dirty to work hard. [20:38] * Shard looks innocent [20:38] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:39] * harryfreak359 asks if she can join Sooner [20:39] * fawkes28 thinks you two should be forced to write a filk on that person [20:39] <monkeybubblenuts> whoops typo, they would have huuuge kiddies [20:39] <harryfreak359> lol [20:39] <monkeybubblenuts> smile [20:39] <SoonerGryffindor> Do you think that Fluer Delacour and Bill Weasley were at first just attracted to each others' looks? What do you think they admire about each other? What are some personality qualities that they share? [20:39] <DumbleDebbie> they're both a bit eccentric [20:39] <Ravendor> I think it started with looks [20:39] <futureweasley> they are both ambitious...and "pretty" [20:39] <DMD> this one's a mystery to me [20:39] <fawkes28> i think they were initially attracted by looks [20:39] <Poet> We know that Fluer admires bravery. [20:40] <DumbleDebbie> maybe they 1st saw each other as cool and interesting and got to know each other better later [20:40] <adamgryff> I'm not sure how that all got started [20:40] <Shard> I think it may havbe been looks at first, alot of times honestly it is [20:40] <fawkes28> and it did surprise me with how she stuck by him [20:40] <Shard> That isn't nessarly a BAD thing [20:40] <monkeybubblenuts> they are a glam couple [20:40] <Shard> I mean who wants to be with someone that isn't attracted to them? [20:40] <futureweasley> well, she started working with him at Gringotts, right? [20:40] <Poet> Bill had those boots and that fang earring. He was a curse breaker which is very cool indeed. [20:40] <matilda> Aren't most couples on some level, first attracted by looks? Looks are the first thing there is to notice, after all [20:40] <futureweasley> I'm sure she's quite intelligent...once she takes her foot out of her mouth [20:40] <DMD> that will be Bill's dilema [20:40] <DumbleDebbie> and she's got that Veela advantage [20:40] *** Patrick12 has quit [Bye] [20:41] <fawkes28> ah, phlegm [20:41] <Poet> For both Fluer and Bill, family seems very important to them. [20:41] <Shard> I actuyally think that Bill is able to, as a curse breaker, look throughj the Veelaness, it's possible since Harry can as well [20:41] <DMD> i never saw what she brought to a real relationship until she stood by him [20:41] <Shard> I think Fluer is a good person at heart [20:41] <CarpeDiem> lol Poet, you misspelled cool. It should have been H-A-W-T, right? smile [20:41] <DumbleDebbie> matilda, was it her hair ;) [20:41] <matilda> Look how she was about her sister at hte Tri-wizard [20:42] <matilda> yes [20:42] <Shard> I think she always has been, but since she was like 17-18 she was actinbg a spoiled teen [20:42] <DumbleDebbie> lol [20:42] <Shard> and it took her sister, in her view, of almost dying to change her priotirties [20:42] <matilda> I disagree, we just SEE her priorities for the first time them [20:42] <fawkes28> men are sometimes attracted toyounger women [20:42] <Ravendor> I agree, matilda [20:42] <CarpeDiem> I wonder how long it took to get past the "veela" thing. I wonder if many do get past that point? [20:42] <DMD> did she gaim moral fiber [20:42] <Poet> Carpe, indeed. As a couple they both represent the height of cool, I mean hawtness. [20:43] <harryfreak359> Yeah [20:43] <DumbleDebbie> lots of people (esp. the women in the book) seem to have pre-judged Fleur based solely on her looks [20:43] <fawkes28> war makes people grow up to, which i think it helped them [20:43] <Shard> Exaclty and that's ironic since people think Fluer judges that way [20:43] *** Padfoot4Eva has quit [Bye] [20:43] <DumbleDebbie> true Shard [20:43] <fawkes28> and i think jo is trying to tell us to get past that predujice of judging people by their looks [20:43] <adamgryff> agree fawkes [20:43] <DumbleDebbie> that often happens, people suspect others of doing what they themselves are thinking [20:43] <Poet> Fluer and Bill both seem to like adventure. Both spent time working in other countries. [20:44] <futureweasley> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next WWW chat here http://www.leakylounge.com/forums.html#entry960965 [20:44] <DMD> fawkes, sometimes women are atracted to younger men too! [20:44] <CarpeDiem> fawkes - you're so right about that. She does it all the time...I really enjoy the twists she lays out. [20:44] <fawkes28> lol [20:44] <Shard> Oh awesome FW [20:44] <SoonerGryffindor> Lupin has seen and experienced a lot of terrible things in his life. Tonks is young and vibrant and full of life. What drew Tonks to Lupin? [20:45] <DumbleDebbie> animal magnatism? [20:45] <SoonerGryffindor> my favorite surprise ship of the series [20:45] <DMD> the same thing that draws us all [20:45] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL Debbie [20:45] <DumbleDebbie>  [20:45] <Aislinn> His kindness, intelligence, loyalty [20:45] <fawkes28> awe lupin is such a kind person [20:45] <adamgryff> lol debbie [20:45] <Poet> He is a very kind person. [20:45] <futureweasley> *This chat will continue at the in the Study Hall of the Chamber of Chat http://www.chamberofchat.com/chat/enter.asp* [20:45] <adamgryff> I think it is because Lupin is so caring about others [20:45] <Poet> She is an auror and he's right in the thick of the fight against Voldemort. [20:45] <Shard> Honestly I feel that Lupin is an awesome Father figure, and he's gone through so much and keeps on going and I think that kind of thing is what Tonks wants [20:45] <Shard> I think Tonks is a daddies girl [20:45] <matilda> We like to hate beautiful people and hope for their comuppance [20:45] *** matilda has quit [Bye] [20:45] <DMD> she sees he needs a hug [20:46] <DumbleDebbie> maybe Tonks is the type who wants to be someone's comfort, and who needs more than Lupin? [20:46] <futureweasley> Lupin is kind...and tortured...Tonks thinks she can patch that up and give him some much needed confidence [20:46] <Shard> I don't think that's right Matilda [20:46] <fawkes28> she sees him for who he is and loves him despite that [20:46] <Poet> Right Shard, Tonks relates to her father in that they are both admitted slobs (no offense meant) [20:46] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally cant blame her for her judgement [20:46] <Shard> I have seen the hate toward Ginny and Fluer for those reasons because their goodf looking [20:46] <Poet> Both Tonks and Lupin share the ability to transform , though Lupin' [20:46] <futureweasley> she seems to be the type that is also insecure about who she is...and thinks that she and Lupin can be there for each other [20:46] <Poet> ..though Lupin's is not of his own design. [20:47] <Shard> Sooner: Who's judgement?? [20:47] <fawkes28> yes, future, on the inside they are similar [20:47] <SoonerGryffindor> Tonks [20:47] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry, I'm lagging again [20:47] <Aislinn> I don't know if he is a father figure for her - I think she is attracted to his calm kindness, as a complement to her bubbling energy [20:47] * DumbleDebbie will not bad-mouth the lag this time [20:47] <Poet> I like that imagery Aislinn [20:47] <fawkes28> opposites attract once again [20:47] <DMD> perhaps her great insecurities led her to become as everything because she's not comfortable with herself [20:47] <SoonerGryffindor> that's another couple that compliments each others weaknesses [20:48] <futureweasley> that's a definite possibility DMD [20:48] <SoonerGryffindor> Have you learned any important relationship lessons from the examples in the books? [20:48] <Aislinn> how old is she supposed to be? [20:48] <CarpeDiem> Good point sooner and fawkes. [20:48] *** Ravendor has quit [Bye] [20:48] <Poet> They both share some insecurities I think [20:48] <Shard> Agreed Sooner [20:48] <futureweasley> I think Jo is a very "ying-yang" type of shipper [20:48] <CarpeDiem> You never know where you're going to find love - or firendship for that matter. [20:48] <monkeybubblenuts> I think tonks is pretty young maybe 20? [20:48] *** Ravendor has joined #lounge [20:48] <DMD> never judge a book by its cover [20:48] *** matilda has joined #lounge [20:48] <Poet> Jo certainly has give us examples of lots of different types of relationships. [20:48] <fawkes28> nice saying carpediem [20:48] <Ravendor> ugh, stupid computer... [20:48] <SoonerGryffindor> Dont go for the physical relationships? [20:48] <SoonerGryffindor> wn Matilda [20:48] <Shard> Yes! [20:48] <fawkes28> and dmd nice [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> wait for the right timing? [20:49] <Shard> For starters I don't like the games Cho and Hermione played [20:49] <fawkes28> give people a chance [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> don't try to force something that isnt going to work out' [20:49] *** matilda has quit [Bye] [20:49] <fawkes28> don't just snog people smile [20:49] <Poet> We've seen how realtionships can go wrong when entered for the wrong reasons or on uneven footing....just look at the Gaunts and the Riddles. Yikes! [20:49] <adamgryff> good things come to those who wait [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fawkes [20:49] <DumbleDebbie> lol Fawkes [20:49] <DMD> oooo why not? [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> lol DMD [20:49] <futureweasley> oof, Poet...you are right [20:49] <fawkes28> lol [20:49] *** matilda has joined #lounge [20:49] <DumbleDebbie> I'd rather not look at the Gaunts, or the Riddles ;) [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Matilda [20:50] <Poet> You also can't force someone to love you, being honest and true to yourself is the best way to find your true companion. [20:50] <futureweasley> the riddles were all quite attractive [20:50] <fawkes28> true [20:50] <DMD> good one [20:50] <fawkes28> poet [20:50] <futureweasley> very nice Poet...I agree [20:50] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, but do you want to look Tom in the eye? yikes [20:50] <DMD> i could have used that in my early 20s [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> and dont use a love potion [20:50] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner [20:50] <Shard> From Molly/Arthur we learn what the meaning of comprimise is [20:50] <fawkes28> magic can't buy you love [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> or you might give birth do the next evil overlord [20:51] <DumbleDebbie> that's a good practical lesson ;) [20:51] <futureweasley> Love Potion...I love the introduction of that potion! [20:51] <harryfreak359> LOL sooner [20:51] <CarpeDiem> In the end, even the love potion could not create the loving relationship she wanted. [20:51] <fawkes28> oh and sacrifice [20:51] <DumbleDebbie> love potion = evil spawn [20:51] <Ravendor> lol [20:51] <futureweasley> right CD [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> . Which is your favorite canon couple, and why? [20:51] <DMD> lol [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry/Ginny!!!!!!!!! [20:51] <harryfreak359> Harry and Ginny [20:51] <Shard> Harry/Ginny! [20:51] <Ravendor> Ginny and Harry [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [20:51] <Shard> Sweet [20:51] <DMD> G&H [20:51] <DumbleDebbie> Arthur & Molly, they're so huggable [20:51] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:51] <CarpeDiem> Weasleys! [20:51] <monkeybubblenuts> ron and hermione [20:51] <adamgryff> harry ginny because they are made for each other [20:51] <Poet> I love the Weasleys, but my favorite are the couples that are still developing. [20:51] <matilda> this chat doesn't work so well for me today [20:51] <matilda> authur molly [20:51] <Shard> Oh the reason I feel this way is that they complement each other's needs [20:52] <futureweasley> I love Ron/Hermone for what we don't know...and Molly/Arthur for what we do [20:52] <Shard> I just love the OBHWF [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> oh yeah, I was supposed to give a reason. Becuase they are made (by Jo) for each other [20:52] <futureweasley> me too Shard!! [20:52] <fawkes28> harry and ginny but i wish we could see the point of view from the other couples [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> me too Shard [20:52] <matilda> I second that, futureweasley [20:52] <harryfreak359> I think Harry and Ginny are so perfect together...and if they get married Harry will be part of the Weasley family...yay [20:52] <CarpeDiem> Very nicely put FW [20:52] <Shard> Also guys when Harry marries Ginny, and he will, he will be the 7th son for Molly/Arthur [20:52] <Poet> Like Ron and Hermione and Harry and Ginny. Those "new" relationships that are still sorting themselves out are my favorite. [20:52] <fawkes28> i would have loved to see more about james/lily [20:52] <Poet> Nice one Shard [20:52] <matilda> ah yes [20:52] <futureweasley> me too fawkes [20:52] <Ravendor> yeah, me too, fawkes [20:52] <Shard> smile [20:52] <harryfreak359> ahhh me too fawkes [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> yes. Very interesting indeed Shard [20:52] <DumbleDebbie> yes Fawkes [20:52] <DMD> I like the inner peace they bring to each other, G&H [20:52] <monkeybubblenuts> me too [20:52] <adamgryff> me too fawkes [20:52] <fawkes28> let's write a book! [20:53] <harryfreak359> lol [20:53] <Aislinn> Its hard to pick one - I love Harry and Ginny, Lupoin and Tonks, and Molly and Arthur - all great couples [20:53] <Ravendor> lol [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> aww, that's sweet DMD [20:53] <harryfreak359> all together? [20:53] <harryfreak359> hehehe [20:53] <futureweasley> I'd like to know more about Petunia's first "suiter" too [20:53] <Poet> Let's all have a group hug. Can you feel the love..? [20:53] <matilda> ohh, Lupin and Tonks because I would totally go for Lupin myself [20:53] <harryfreak359> yeah! [20:53] <fawkes28> that would be interesting, hf! [20:53] <monkeybubblenuts> oooh i love group hug smile [20:53] <Poet> Futureweasley....coughcough [20:53] <matilda> and I want Lupin to be really happy [20:53] * futureweasley snuggles in for the big group hug [20:53] * harryfreak359 joins group hug [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> are you stirring up trouble FW? [20:53] * fawkes28 has another song in my head [20:53] <Aislinn> me too matilda [20:53] <futureweasley> not me!! [20:53] <Shard> hugs! [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> ;) [20:54] <CarpeDiem> The nice things about the couples in the HP series is they are in so many different levels of development. It's fun to watch them continue to grow and change. [20:54] * fawkes28 runs into the group hug [20:54] <SoonerGryffindor> Now it is time for our feature question here in the Corner Booth, but with a different spin...... canon relationships..... which ones to live or die? [20:54] <Poet> I agree Carpe. [20:54] <fawkes28> she always is [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> lol, Never ;) [20:54] <Shard> Agreed Carpe [20:54] <Aislinn> yes it is, Carpe [20:54] <SoonerGryffindor> hey! Wait for me in the group hug [20:54] <harryfreak359> errr... [20:54] <fawkes28> half-live!!! haha [20:54] <futureweasley> live live live...the Malfoys are going down though [20:54] <Shard> H/g, A/M, B/F all live [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> Molly die; Arthur live [20:54] <Shard> H/O :*( [20:54] <adamgryff> all live [20:54] <CarpeDiem> Sooner - if you're in love, you live. If not you die smile [20:54] <futureweasley> NO DDebbie [20:54] <fawkes28> i say they all live [20:54] <Shard> lol [20:54] <matilda> EVERYBODY LIVES [20:54] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:54] <Poet> The relationships, not the people wink [20:54] <matilda> oh. [20:54] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fawkes [20:54] <fawkes28> well, the malfoys can die [20:55] <futureweasley> lol Fawkes [20:55] <matilda> umm, I see all the relationships working out ok [20:55] <DumbleDebbie>  I know FW. I just think the ones we love most are in the most danger of dying[20:55] <Shard> Well then all the relationships live [20:55] <futureweasley> that's what I said...I'm so evil [20:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I definitely want all of them to live [20:55] <Shard> CAuse you NEVER see a divorced couple [20:55] <futureweasley> me too! [20:55] <adamgryff> i think all the relationships will make it through to the end of the book [20:55] <SoonerGryffindor> right [20:55] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [20:55] <Aislinn> I hope they all live and end up with big happy families [20:55] <matilda> I mean i can't see molly and aurtur calling it quits or something [20:55] <Poet> Draco and Pansy...relationship death. He's too busy not getting himself killed. [20:55] <fawkes28> not in the world of magic! [20:55] <DumbleDebbie> even the Malfoys Sooner? [20:55] <futureweasley> not in the Wizarding World! They are bonded by an Unbreakable Vow [20:56] <DMD> Petunia live, Vernon die [20:56] <DumbleDebbie> ooo DMD, I hadn't thought about the Dursleys getting caught in the middle [20:56] <futureweasley> the Dursleys are going to be victims of a serious obliviate charm [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> okay....... NOW it is time for the big group hug........... then we get to kick y'all out!!! laugh [20:56] <fawkes28> yeah, vernon can die too [20:56] <DMD> I think they'll be in the thick of it [20:56] <harryfreak359> lol sooner [20:56] <Ravendor> lol [20:56] * harryfreak359 hugs everyone [20:56] <adamgryff> lol [20:56] <CarpeDiem> Nice sooner smile [20:56] * fawkes28 joins the group hug AGAIN [20:56] * DumbleDebbie joins the gruop hug [20:56] <DMD> hug [20:56] * Ravendor joins in group hug [20:57] * SoonerGryffindor hugs everyone and starts pushing them out the door [20:57] * futureweasley squeezes SoonerGryffindor's air right out of her lungs! [20:57] <Aislinn> hugs to all! [20:57] <adamgryff> hug [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:57] <fawkes28> lol [20:57] <Ravendor> lol [20:57] <harryfreak359> lol [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> ouch! quit pushing ;) [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> go see Carpe in the CoC [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:57] <fawkes28> hey my clock says we have 3 minutes smile [20:57] <adamgryff> lol [20:57] <harryfreak359> mine does too [20:57] <CarpeDiem> Thanks for the chat all...have a great evening! smile See you in the CoC! [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:57] <harryfreak359> lol [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> mine too fawkes [20:57] <fawkes28> hehe [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> like you guys ever go anywhere in 3 minutes [20:57] <DMD> 3 minutes of hugging? [20:57] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:57] <harryfreak359> lol [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> Sooner -standard time is 3 minutes early [20:57] <futureweasley> final word...Petunia/Snape will be the next canon couple we discuss! [20:57] *** artlady left #lounge [] [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [20:57] <fawkes28> so getting a headstart...smart [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> EWWW [20:58] <Aislinn> don't foget to vote in the polls! [20:58] <fawkes28> HAHA [20:58] <futureweasley> because it will be canon soon enough [20:58] <DMD> AAKK! [20:58] <harryfreak359> Future! ewwww. [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> run Future! [20:58] <SoonerGryffindor> she had to do it again [20:58] <fawkes28> future, you crap me up [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> :puke: [20:58] <adamgryff> no way future [20:58] <Ravendor> lol [20:58] <fawkes28> oh lol [20:58] <harryfreak359> *gags* [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> lol fawkes! 'crap' [20:58] <futureweasley> we shall see [20:58] <fawkes28> *crack [20:58] <Poet> Yes, Vernon and Dudley die in a big family group hug, but Petunia is rescued by Snape and they fall madly in love. [20:58] <harryfreak359> lol [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> hee hee hee [20:58] <harryfreak359> nnoooooooooooo [20:58] <matilda> ewwwww [20:58] <DMD> lol poet [20:58] <Ravendor> ewwww [20:58] <adamgryff> lol poet [20:58] <matilda> that's gross [20:58] <Ravendor> so nasty [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> ewwww [20:58] <futureweasley> you guys will be so amazed when that come to light [20:58] * Shard joins hug [20:58] <Shard> Bye all [20:58] <Shard> lol bad FW [20:58] *** Shard has quit [Bye] [20:58] <matilda> besides, petunia and Vernon 'work' [20:59] * Poet was possessed by FW when she said that [20:59] * harryfreak359 highly doubts that [20:59] <fawkes28> i'm on your side, future [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> or nauseated FW ;) [20:59] <harryfreak359> noooooo! [20:59] <fawkes28> we'll take over the world! [20:59] <fawkes28> smile [20:59] *** matilda left #lounge [] [20:59] <DMD> not when her true love comes to light [20:59] <harryfreak359> I am on Sooner's side [20:59] <Poet> All right, have a nice evening all. [20:59] <futureweasley> lol, yes Poet was definitely under my best attempt at an imperius [20:59] <harryfreak359> night all! [20:59] <futureweasley> good night [20:59] <harryfreak359> bye [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> night [20:59] <fawkes28> ok ok good night sad [20:59] <harryfreak359> *hugs* [20:59] * SoonerGryffindor thinks we really need a puking smiley just for FW's ships [20:59] <Aislinn> bye all! [20:59] <adamgryff> bye guys [20:59] <Poet> Just click on the little X above our names over on the right to exit [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> nite guys [20:59] <futureweasley> that's why I love you fawkes!! [20:59] * harryfreak359 agrees [20:59] <Ravendor> bye [20:59] <fawkes28> hehe [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> YES Sooner smile [21:00] *** DMD left #lounge [] [21:00] *** adamgryff left #lounge [] [21:00] *** harryfreak359 left #lounge [] [21:00] *** Ravendor left #lounge [] [21:00] <futureweasley> you're lucky I didn't bring up Draco/Hermione [21:00] <DumbleDebbie> Yick!!! [21:00] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [21:00] <DumbleDebbie> bye [21:00] <futureweasley> now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!! [21:00] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [21:00] <Aislinn> monkey? [21:01] *** monkeybubblenuts has quit [Bye] --------------------  Sig Image by Brian Ross (DatM) and avi by Jeffhpfan |
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