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Umbridge's brilliant Hogwarts career, How effective were Umbridge's methods to control Hogwarts students
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post Feb 7 2008, 03:39 AM
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MY BRILLIANT CAREER


Girls and boys, and other members of Leaky Lounge! Allow me to introduce myself, as a highly respected member of the Wizengamot, and a high-ranking and highly valued Senior Undersecretary to Cornelius Fudge, himself. Along with the delightful Lucius Malfoy, my Selwyn relatives and other dear friends I have made, I did my best to stop Dumbledore's rot from taking root in the Wizarding World. I passed a law to stop a recurrence of that unfortunate incident involving the employment of a Werewolf as the Hogwarts Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, and have stood valiantly against the employment of other half-breed types, like (hmph) Rubeus Hagrid or the appointment of mad types like Alastor Moody.

It was this terrible situation involving the appointment of such types which doubtless caused the unfortunate accident in which Cedric Diggory died during the third Triwizard Cup task. Poor Fudge was so upset. heart.gif But I took steps to see that nothing came of the allegations put about by the likes of Dumbledore and that miserable favourite of his. My measures should have silenced harry.gif forever, but for practising underage magic in front of a muggle, this miserable half-blood now has a criminal record, which should entitle him to punishment whenever and wherever he is found. gavel.gif

I was appointed the following academic year as Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher to ensure that Hogwarts' precious children are suitably protected against alarmist types like (hmph) Harry Potter, and from practising inappropriate spells. The Ministry considers the education of young wizards and witches of utmost importance, so Educational Decree Number 22 appointed me Hogwarts High Inquisitor. Thereby, I not only had the power to administer detention pens to that undesirable, but also to weed out suspect Hogwarts teachers, in particular, 'Professors' Trelawney and eyebrow.gif Hagrid. Educational Decree, Number 28 appointed me as Hogwarts Headmistress when Dumbledore proved he was planning sedition against Cornelius Fudge.

Other Educational Decrees, such as Numbers 24, 25 or Number 27 forbade clubs and other similar seditious organisations, allowed me to debar dissenting undesirables from playing in even local sporting teams, and also banned the dissemination of publications which do not meet with Ministry approval. Number 23 authorised me to inspect and sack teachers. Whilst Number 27 and other powers allowed me to assemble a most effective student club, given power to help me counteract harry.gif 's dangerous resistance to Ministry ideas, as well as inspect Hogwarts mail as it arrives. (Here's a thought! Does Cornelius Fudge rubber-stamp everything put in front of him? Never mind, what he doesn't see won't hurt him.)

It has come to my attention that on this site many believe that Voldemort has arisen. I must insist that this information is definitely not true. This is a view put about by those who are in cahoots with Sirius Black. Myself, I don't associate with criminals or werewolves. Do not listen to J.K Rowling who has said she referred to precedents like the Muggle Neville Chamberlain, and his unfortunate career in Twentieth Century history. You are not to believe one word of what the likes of Wagga Wagga Werewolf says! A werewolf has no rights in this society. Didn't I pass a law stopping such nonsense? My good friend Fudge signed it. (Was he actually paying attention when he did?)

I've heard rumours that on this site I have been called an incompetent Ministry toadie! I am not to be criticized in any way. How disrespectful of Book Club visitors to suggest I am not a high-ranking Pooh Bah of the Wizengamot and Ministry who can reel off all the laws and bylaws at a moment's notice to the likes of that horrible half-breed centaur herd! How dare they suggest my Ministry approved curriculum is not everything that is needed for students to pass their exams!

Now I ask you! Hasn't my career provided an effective educational experience? Did I deserve being hounded out of the Forbidden Forest, not to mention being chased out of Hogwarts, itself? Evaluate my brilliant career, and Ministry methods of bringing Hogwarts under control, I insist!


You've heard Professor Umbridge's point of view, and now I've some questions for Dolores Umbridge. Anyone else is also welcome to express their opinions here:

1.How can a sporting competition be a valid competition if there isn't an opposing team to play against?

2. How effective was it for Umbridge to ban magazine articles, clubs and all other activities which would criticize her performance?

3. Why did Umbridge want to stop Harry achieving the OWLs results necessary to become an auror? Would she really have behaved differently if he wanted to be something else?

4. Why did it suit Umbridge to deny that Voldemort had returned?

5. What exactly did you think the Toad expect to achieve by setting dementors onto Harry and Dudley Dursley?

6. How successful a DADA teacher, High Inquisitor and Headmistress was Umbridge? (Unlike her toadiness, I won't feed you with Veritaserum-laced tea.)

Meanwhile, the first rule of Leaky Lounge is to be nice to others. How and why should Professor Umbridge remember this rule before trumpeting her views here?


This post has been edited by WaggaWaggaWerewolf: Feb 8 2008, 01:49 AM
Reason for edit: To ask her Toadiness some pertinent questions


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post Feb 25 2008, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix42 @ Feb 24 2008, 04:44 PM) *
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3. Why did Umbridge want to stop Harry achieving the OWLs results necessary to become an auror? Would she really have behaved differently if he wanted to be something else?


I think Umbridge just wanted to stop Harry at something. It seems he was able to get around many of her decrees. He didn't stop talking about Voldemort, he still ran the da, he got to play quidditch, he got an article published and everyone reading it. I think this was one way she felt she had control and nothing he could do would stop her from giving him a certain grade. I also don't think Delores was aware of the jinx on the DADA position. I imagine she thought she would be around for quite awhile and this would be one way she would have control over students. .

I love this idea (in bolding)! It explains so much about how she is with the students. If she was aware that it is a jinxed position I think she may have played her game a bit differently. She feels she will be around long enough to ensure that Harry doesn't become an auror, and so she shows her hand at this time. If she knew she wouldn't be there next year I do think she would have set measures in place a bit differently so as to make sure that her edicts carried on after she left the school. As it is I think she's only in the early stages of her takeover bid when the year ends and she's ousted.

And I also agree: she just wants to stop Harry from doing things he wants to do, but this isn't the first or only time she does so. She successfully stops him playing quidditch and she successfully stops his visits to Hagrid ... this is just the next step on the path. I think it's all about making his life miserable so he recants and says Voldemort never came back. How she thinks this is the way to achieve that I don't know. But it seems to be the plan.


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post Feb 27 2008, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix42 @ Feb 24 2008, 04:44 PM) *
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3. Why did Umbridge want to stop Harry achieving the OWLs results necessary to become an auror? Would she really have behaved differently if he wanted to be something else?


I think Umbridge just wanted to stop Harry at something. It seems he was able to get around many of her decrees. He didn't stop talking about Voldemort, he still ran the da, he got to play quidditch, he got an article published and everyone reading it. I think this was one way she felt she had control and nothing he could do would stop her from giving him a certain grade. I also don't think Delores was aware of the jinx on the DADA position. I imagine she thought she would be around for quite awhile and this would be one way she would have control over students. .

I love this idea (in bolding)! It explains so much about how she is with the students. If she was aware that it is a jinxed position I think she may have played her game a bit differently.


Which suggests that she's really not well-informed about Hogwarts, since the one-year jinx (or at least assuming that the position was unlucky) seems to have been pretty widespread in the British wizarding community. Hence, the difficulty finding a DADA professor. Of course, Umbridge concentrates her attention on things she sees as advantageous for her, and almost until she was sent to Hogwarts, she probably didn't see any reason to learn about it.

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And I also agree: she just wants to stop Harry from doing things he wants to do, but this isn't the first or only time she does so. She successfully stops him playing quidditch and she successfully stops his visits to Hagrid ... this is just the next step on the path. I think it's all about making his life miserable so he recants and says Voldemort never came back. How she thinks this is the way to achieve that I don't know.

Perhaps because she vastly underestimates him? And she gets a sense of satisfaction from exercising her own power, albeit in random ways, such as forbidding him to play quidditch. Do you get the impression I don't like Umbridge? wink.gif


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QUOTE(Amontillada @ Feb 27 2008, 11:23 PM) *
QUOTE(Sethtaylorsummer @ Feb 25 2008, 02:13 AM) *
QUOTE(phoenix42 @ Feb 24 2008, 04:44 PM) *
I also don't think Delores was aware of the jinx on the DADA position. I imagine she thought she would be around for quite awhile and this would be one way she would have control over students.
I love this idea (in bolding)! It explains so much about how she is with the students. If she was aware that it is a jinxed position I think she may have played her game a bit differently.


Which suggests that she's really not well-informed about Hogwarts, since the one-year jinx (or at least assuming that the position was unlucky) seems to have been pretty widespread in the British wizarding community. Hence, the difficulty finding a DADA professor. Of course, Umbridge concentrates her attention on things she sees as advantageous for her, and almost until she was sent to Hogwarts, she probably didn't see any reason to learn about it.


Umbridge might have been aware of the famous jinx. It is just that she doesn't believe it. After all who placed the jinx? Voldemort of course. And Umbridge has been busy denying that Voldemort has arisen, that there is any need to fight him, that there isn't something rotten in the state of the Wizarding World. (well herself for starters).

If Voldemort is finished the way Umbridge believes it, then there is no need to take precautions. Don't spells die when their casters die? Furthermore, why is Snape continually applying for the position if there is only one year's tenure to be expected? Umbridge even noted that Snape had applied for the job and queried Snape about it.

As for herself, she is at Hogwarts on a mission. If it succeeded she may not have needed to stay. Or, since she had become headmistress, someone else might have got the job. Perhaps one of her delightful friends, like Amycus Carrow. The jinx on the DADA position might not be an issue since Dolores still had a job to go back to after she was run out of Hogwarts.

Though, if she really believed that Voldemort was finished, why did she show so much hostility to Harry, when it was due to him that Voldemort was removed in Godric's Hollow?




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- Professor Umbridge   Umbridge's brilliant Hogwarts career   Feb 7 2008, 03:39 AM
- - rosssinant   1.How can a sporting competition be a valid compet...   Feb 17 2008, 03:49 PM
- - harrypottergeek2   1.How can a sporting competition be a valid compet...   Feb 17 2008, 04:56 PM
|- - rowena r   QUOTE(harrypottergeek2 @ Feb 17 2008, 05...   Feb 18 2008, 09:21 AM
|- - Miss Padfoot   QUOTE(rowena r @ Feb 18 2008, 03:21 PM) Q...   Feb 23 2008, 11:12 AM
- - chmpgnrose   Umbridge is one nasty piece of work who wants tota...   Feb 17 2008, 06:51 PM
|- - Amontillada   QUOTE(chmpgnrose @ Feb 17 2008, 06:51 PM)...   Feb 17 2008, 07:01 PM
- - wendybird3   Oh my, Umbridge has to be one of the worst people ...   Feb 17 2008, 07:46 PM
- - phoenix42   QUOTE1.How can a sporting competition be a valid c...   Feb 23 2008, 10:44 PM
- - Laura W   QUOTE2. How effective was it for Umbridge to ban m...   Feb 24 2008, 02:26 PM
- - invisibilitybooster1   3. Why did Umbridge want to stop Harry achieving t...   Feb 24 2008, 08:14 PM
|- - harrypottergeek2   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Mar 15 2008, 10...   Mar 15 2008, 11:29 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(harrypottergeek2 @ Mar 16 2008, 03...   Mar 16 2008, 03:40 AM
|- - harrypottergeek2   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Mar 16 2008, 04...   Mar 16 2008, 06:48 PM
|- - WaggaWaggaWerewolf   QUOTE(harrypottergeek2 @ Mar 17 2008, 10...   Mar 17 2008, 04:02 AM
|- - harrypottergeek2   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Mar 17 2008, 05...   Mar 18 2008, 10:42 PM
- - lirene   QUOTE(WaggaWaggaWerewolf @ Mar 17 2008, 05...   Mar 17 2008, 08:05 AM
- - Arcalus   @Lirene, Actually they were, because Snape says ...   Mar 17 2008, 09:40 AM
|- - lirene   QUOTE(Arcalus @ Mar 17 2008, 10:40 AM) @L...   Mar 17 2008, 12:53 PM
- - Arcalus   ^_^ Ah, should've read it more carefully. They...   Mar 17 2008, 04:20 PM
- - rowena r   QUOTE(lirene @ Mar 17 2008, 08:05 AM) Cor...   Mar 18 2008, 11:17 AM
|- - lirene   QUOTE(rowena r @ Mar 18 2008, 12:17 PM) Y...   Mar 18 2008, 11:30 AM
- - Arcalus   ^_^ I assume the first years learned as much as th...   Mar 18 2008, 11:40 AM
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- - Oryx   QUOTEEven if DD implied that he and LV knew that S...   Mar 19 2008, 02:29 PM
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