Voldemort's Wand |
 Jan 22 2006, 12:21 AM
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Professional Diagon Alley Window Shopper Posts: 63 Joined: 9:05pm January 21, 2006  |
If Voldemort didn't have a body after the curse rebounded on him and he was in hiding for so long, how did he get his own wand back at the rebirthing? It would mean Wormtail got it for him and kept it for this long, or that Voldemort's body just came with his own wand
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Jan 22 2006, 08:17 AM
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Butterbeer Connoisseur Posts: 1,471 Joined: 9:41am October 23, 2005 Location: Looking for Sirius' motor bike.......nono i am not going to lend it to anyone(except the trio) |
i thik Wormtail took it to him when he escaped in PoA and was heading to Albania
Voldemort had his wand before he got his body back since he had already killed Bertha Jokins and the old muggle Frank Bryce and Wormtail used Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2006, 11:35 AM
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Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 606 Joined: 3:16pm September 21, 2005 Location: Shrieking in my own shack. |
It's a valid question because Wormtail spent so many years as a rat. He couldn't have carried it around with him. Would he have had time to go to Godric's Hollow and get it then store it seomwhere?
That sounds a little too gutsy for Wormtail, if you ask me. But it's a very good question. Who would have gotten the wand from Godric's Hollow? -------------------- |
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Jan 22 2006, 03:47 PM
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Firebolt-Polisher at Quality Quidditch Supplies Posts: 1,064 Joined: 12:04pm January 15, 2006 Location: Currently on board on the Weasley-Granger long and luxurious, cruise-liner ship...  |
I just believe that when LV 'avada kedavra' backfired to him that night, the spell was SO strong that it probably destroyed his wand, thus he was forced in the future to have someone bye him - have him a new one, OR he just took another's wand.. Maybe that is the reason Olivander is missing, LV wasn;t using his wand for all those years, and thus he kidnapped Olivander to make him a new wand, made just for hmself and himself only...
--------------------  Hell isn't so bad if you get to keep an angel with you.. |
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Jan 22 2006, 04:24 PM
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Just Through the Brick Wall Posts: 6 Joined: 11:24pm August 29, 2005 Location: Green Bay, WI |
Remember: Ollivander told Harry that he sold LV the wand in the first place. Dumbledore said that Fawkes gave "just one other feather", which is in Harry's wand. The only way that Priori Incatatem could've happened is with LV's original wand. Since LV was in no fit state to hide the wand, it had to have been Wormtail. LV would not have planned for himself "dying", as he thought he was invincible (yes, he did DIE, or at least a part of his soul). Therefore, there was no backup plan. Wormtail panicked, as he thought he was going to be associated with LV's downfall and didn't want the Death Eaters coming after him, and he knew that he had also betrayed the order, so he grabbed the wand and ran. There are theories running around about it being LV's wand that Wormtail used to blow up the street, but we would've seen some sort of echo during the priori Incatatem. In short, LV still has his old wand, and someone hid it for him in the meantime. Many think it's wormtail because we didn't see LV use his wand until Wormtail rejoined him, but LV also could not use a wand until Wormtail rejoined him as he had no body.
As for the Ollivander threory, Fawkes only gave 2 feathers and they are in Harry's and LV's original wand, and Ollivander didn't go missing until the 6th book. Priori Incatatem happened in the 4th. (P.S., there is a very good editorial on this topic on Mugglenet, in the "Underground Lake") |
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Jan 22 2006, 06:02 PM
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Professional Diagon Alley Window Shopper Posts: 63 Joined: 9:05pm January 21, 2006 |
That would make sense b/c didn't JK hint that there could have been a second person at Godric's Hollow the night that the Potter's died?
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Jan 22 2006, 08:47 PM
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Junior Dishwasher at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 606 Joined: 3:16pm September 21, 2005 Location: Shrieking in my own shack. |
Yes, there has been talk of that and she wouldn't deny it, is my recollection, but I can't put my finger on a quote to confirm it. I do think the other person would most likely have had something to do with where Voldemort's wand ended up. Wormtail became a rat for many years soon after.
And good point, hplan, that Voldemort would have to have had his original wand in the graveyard in Book 4 for the Priori Incantatem to work. It is possible though, that Voldemort had Ollivander taken so that a new wand could be made for Voldemort sometime during Book 5, so that the Priori Incantatem would not occur again. -------------------- |
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Jan 23 2006, 12:05 AM
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Daily Prophet Copy Boy/Girl Posts: 3,085 Joined: 12:21pm January 30, 2005 Location: going off to college |
I am a firm believer that wormtail was the one that hid LV's wand after he was "destroy". It makes sence because LV only regained his wand after wormtail joined him.
-------------------- Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night-Edgar Allen Poe
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Jan 23 2006, 04:28 AM
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Queen of Scribbuliciousness  Posts: 2,527 Joined: 1:00am October 2, 2005 Location: Deathly Hallows is my Rochester, my Romeo, my Heathcliffe...  |
Well JK has hinted that there may have been another person present at Godric's Hollow that fateful Haloween night. This person may have been able to pick up Voldemort's wand and keep it safe for him all those years. We know that as long as Pettigrew has been with Voldemort, he has been using Voldemort's wand for, amongst others, killing Frank Bryce and Cedric Diggory, so it is well possible that Pettigrew, who after all was the Potter's secret keeper, was at Godric's Hollow when the Potters died.
However, it's probably not as straightforward as that! If you do a search for Godric's Hollow you'll find several threads completely dedicated to questions like this! --------------------  Jeeves, I am not awake. I have not had my tea and yet you bring me Fink-Nottles. |
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Jan 23 2006, 01:55 PM
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Shopping the sales rack at Madam Malkins Posts: 2,518 Joined: 2:33pm September 16, 2005 Location: I'm somewhere inside all of you |
It has also been proposed that when an animagus changes form into an animal, anything they carry (including their clothing) transforms with them. So if Wormtail had Voldemort's wand when he transformed, he would have it again when he changed back. Since he had no wand in PoA when Sirius and Lupin transformed him back into a person, I suspect that he hid it somewhere after the disaster at GH.
-------------------- "Harry now saw red hair flying like flames in front of him: Ginny was locked in combat ..."
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