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The Wheel of Time Series, Part 2

Seven of Nine View Member Profile	May 11 2009, 02:24 PM Post #1
Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . .	From the last post in Part 1: QUOTE(Shard @ May 11 2009, 01:10 PM) Yeah its been a little over 2 years plus some months. So the boys are about 20-21, Eggy is apparently 18, Elyane is I think 18 but not sure. Basically they are all very young. Before he got the Dagger and met the Finn's Mat was exhibting signs of having Old Tongue knowledge though any memories I think were more like feelings or something. I think Mat was always set up to be a Master of Battles sort of character. This post has been edited by Seven of Nine: May 11 2009, 02:26 PM -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand

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Shard View Member Profile	May 11 2009, 07:08 PM Post #2
Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower	Has anyone read the exerpt of what will be on the cover? A Memory of Light was partially finished by Robert Jordan before his untimely passing in 2007. Brandon Sanderson, New York Times bestselling author of the Mistborn books, was chosen by Jordan’s editor—his wife, Harriet McDougal—to complete the final book. The scope and size of the novel was such that it can not be contained in a single volume, and so Tor proudly presents A Memory of Light: Gathering Clouds as the first in a short sequence of novels that will complete the struggle against the Shadow, bringing to a close a journey begun almost twenty years ago and marking the conclusion of the Wheel of Time, the preeminent fantasy epic of our era. QUOTE In this epic novel, Robert Jordan’s international bestselling series begins its dramatic conclusion. Rand al’Thor, the Dragon Reborn, struggles to unite a fractured network of kingdoms and alliances in preparation for the Last Battle. As he attempts to halt the Seanchan encroachment northward—wishing he could form at least a temporary truce with the invaders—his allies work in desperation to forestall the shadow that seems to be growing within the heart of the Dragon Reborn himself. Egwene al’Vere, the Amyrlin Seat of the rebel Aes Sedai, is a captive of the White Tower and subject to the whims of their tyrannical leader. As days tick toward the Seanchan attack she knows is imminent, Egwene works to hold together the disparate factions of Aes Sedai while providing leadership in the face of increasing uncertainty and despair. Her fight will prove the mettle of the Aes Sedai, and her conflict will decide the future of the White Tower—and therefore the world itself. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do."

Seven of Nine View Member Profile	May 12 2009, 12:36 PM Post #3
Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . .	Whoa! That's great to know, Shard! I was wondering when the Seachan attacking the White Tower would take place. I hadn't thought it would be this early. Somehow I figured with Tuon heading back to take control in the homeland that she'd take her troops with her. But it makes sense for them to all eventually come under Rand. Considering how they feel about women touching the One Power, imagine what they'll think of Rand. We've had how many of the main characters have contact with the Seanchan? Nynaeve and Elayne (and Mat) have met that one Seanchan who was traveling with the circus. Surely she'll be brought back. Perrin worked with the Seanchan to get Faile back. Mat is now married to the Seanchan Empress. Anybody else? -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand

Shard View Member Profile	May 12 2009, 06:48 PM Post #4
Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower	I think Galad may have had to fight them at one point in getting all those Whitecloaks out of Amadica. I can't wait to see Rand meet with Perrin and Mat and learn about the dealings they have had with the Seachan. Mat marrying the Empress of them no less! -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do."

Seven of Nine View Member Profile	May 12 2009, 10:19 PM Post #5
Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . .	Good point about Galad. I keep forgetting him, but he must have something to do besides be Rand's unknown half brother. That still makes me smile that Elayne and Rand (unrelated) have the same half brother. I was just listening to the part where Tom goes after the Half Man to save Rand and Mat. When you think about it, he's really grown a lot himself. He was a bit like Mat at first not wanting to get involved and yet always getting involved, all the while denying it. While what happened to his nephew Owen was the initial motivation to help the boys, Tom seemed to get very close to Moiraine--enough that he's going to be one of the ones to go and get her back from the dead. That's pretty serious dedication for someone who didn't trust Aes Sedai at all in the beginning (though willing to accept their help). -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand

Shard View Member Profile	May 13 2009, 06:06 AM Post #6
Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower	Well Galad's purpose so far seems to be leading the WC contingent and for Rand as well. I am really wanting to see a scene where Galad explains how he got the two most rabid dogs to heel and agree to fight FOR the Dragon. Thom seems like one of those characters that grumbles about the trouble they keep getting mixed in. I think it's just built up for Thom over the books to the point where he thinks it's just the right thing to do. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do."

Seven of Nine View Member Profile	May 14 2009, 03:10 PM Post #7
Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . .	I just reached the part where Rand first meets Loial, and it reminded me that the Seanchan have Ogier warriors. That must mean there are steddings in Seanchan. For some reason I'd just always assumed the steddings were just on the main continent. Something else I didn't pay attention to once I was in the later books, was that Morgase already had problems with her subjects before Rahvin seduced her and changed how she ruled. This post has been edited by Seven of Nine: May 15 2009, 09:33 AM -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand

Shard View Member Profile	May 15 2009, 05:25 AM Post #8
Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower	Yeah the Ogier in Seachan are called the Gardener's and they tend to like using Axes. There alot less nicer then then Randland Ogier, they don't have the longing and so don't need the Stedding's as much if at all. Any problems with Morgase's rule though were minor until Rahvin aka Gabril came along. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do."

Seven of Nine View Member Profile	May 16 2009, 10:15 AM Post #9
Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . .	Well, I just found it interesting that they also had Ogier. Makes me wonder if they took some with them, captured them on their way, or if there were Ogier where they set up their empire. And what will they think when they see their brethren? In the book, I'm at the point where the group is in Shienar preparing to go into the Blight, and I was particularly taken with how everyone called Lan Dai Shan (battle lord) and vehemently wanted him to take up his and fly the Golden Crane again. It's making me really excited to see the size of the army that ends up coming to him as he makes that little trek Nynaeve set him on. But I also remembered that Agelmar's wife is a darkfriend, and I cannot remember if she was ever caught or could still play a role. -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand

Shard View Member Profile	May 16 2009, 11:25 PM Post #10
Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower	They were always there, they had ready access to the steddings so they never went through the Longing. They just evolved into colder, meaner and darker versions of the Randland variety. I don't remember a wife, I know he had a sister I think... It's been awhile.. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do."

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