The Wheel of Time Series, Part 2 |
 Jun 3 2009, 12:02 PM
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Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower  Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower    |
That may make sense then strength in earth can help in making Cuendillar, so perhaps that's a good reason to bring up that Egwene is good with Earth.
Moriane did have a speech in tEotW to Egwene that the Men used Earth and Fire more powerfully and Women had Wind and Water. She also went on to say that didn't mean the men had better abilities, just that they were more adept at those two powers and women at the other two. The powers balance themselves just like they do in HP. I agree 7of9 I think both the halves of the One Power are needed, we'll never know what the result would have been had the women gone with Lews Therin. However I was very excited as well that Saidin got cleansed and Men would once again be able to channel without going insane. --------------------  "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do." |
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Jun 3 2009, 01:20 PM
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Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . . |
Except for poor Rand with someone else in his head who's nuts and wants to kill everyone. Funny. It actually kind of reminds me of Zane in the Mistborn series the way Rand and Lews Therin talk.
I must confess that part depresses me, because I really like Rand. I hate to see him brutalized like he is as he goes to what he's sure will be his death. -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand |
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Jun 3 2009, 01:40 PM
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The nicer member of the A-team Posts: 5,554 Joined: 5:33pm March 30, 2007 Location: Pushing the sweets trolley on the Hogwarts Express  |
Rand's situation always saddens me. He came so far from that naive, sweet young boy and he cleansed the taint basically for the benefit of all the others around him. He himself gets no benefit from it because Lews Therin seems to be another kind of crazy altogether. I really hope he can stop being so hard, and that at least some of his 'building up' projects make it through. I love that he wants to do something, leave something good in his wake, so I hope that actually works.
And it is so sad that he lives this life with certain knowledge that he will die. Harry lives with that for half an hour, poor Rand is stuck with it for years. I do hope he's wrong, though. That kid has sacrificed so much already, it would be awful to see him lose his life too. --------------------  |
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Jun 4 2009, 10:21 AM
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Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower |
And I think that is *exactly* what Robert Jordan wants us to feel for Rand, that he has given so much and gets so little in return. At least so far he has gotten so little, I think there is some hope that he will survive or be rewarded. Rand has the weight of the world on his shoulders and that is a heavy burden.
Yeah I think the Taint has done a certain amount of Damage to various male channelers, the good of the Cleansing is that there will be no further damage. However the existing damage is still there. The thing is that the current mental damages may be fixable now the corrupting influence of the Taint is gone. It's a shame that Rand sees being human as being weak, Harry sorta had that problem as well more with the crying then the laughing though. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do." |
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Jun 4 2009, 01:05 PM
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Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . . |
I'm beginning The Dragon Reborn, and I totally forgot that one of the signs of the Dragon says he "shall bind the nine moons to serve him." Since Gathering Storm appears to be dealing (at least in part) with the assault by the Seanchan on the White Tower, perhaps this is when it will happen.
-------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand |
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Jun 4 2009, 05:28 PM
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Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower |
*heh* I think the binding the Nine Moons to him happened when Mat said "She is my wife, Toun is my wife, the bloody Daughter of the Nine Moons is my wife" lol. He had no idea what he was getting into by saying that.
-------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do." |
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Jun 4 2009, 05:38 PM
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Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . . |
But Tuon is pretty independent, and she doesn't exactly take Mat seriously enough yet. Mat even commented to her before she left with that guy who came for her that he hoped he didn't have to face her in battle. Interesting marriage.
-------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand |
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Jun 4 2009, 08:26 PM
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Visual Aids of Swoonworthiness Person Posts: 3,067 Joined: 8:49pm December 9, 2006 Location: Lost in a Good Book somewhere in Minneapolis |
QUOTE(Seven of Nine @ Jun 4 2009, 05:38 PM)  But Tuon is pretty independent, and she doesn't exactly take Mat seriously enough yet. Mat even commented to her before she left with that guy who came for her that he hoped he didn't have to face her in battle. Interesting marriage. But that is exactly why they will be perfect for each other, neither would have chosen the other for a companion and yet they compliment each other's strengths and balance their weaknesses. A little off-topic, Shard and Seven of Nine you both amaze me with the depth of your recall of the series. As often as I have re-read this series (alot!), you both blow me away. And SoN, I love your new siggy! 
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Jun 4 2009, 08:52 PM
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Stargazing on the Astronomy Tower Posts: 3,908 Joined: 8:04pm September 28, 2005 Location: Astronomy Tower |
Yeah I've read the WoT series so many times I've lost count I really don't know what it is but the first half would be quite a bit higher then the later half. I think that WoT is really becoming my all time favorite series really, yes even more then HP.
 Still love my HP though so don't hold it against me too much. And as for Toun I didn't mean it was in completion but it certainly started down that road. Mat slowly fits more and more of her Signs that she was looking for in him. Sometimes I wonder how events would have brought these two together if he didn't go into the Finn door in Tear. I suppose he was always going to do that, since he needed answers. The thing I am eager to see is what will happen with the Forsaken in the next book. Semi is captured, The BA hunters are getting closer to finding Messana, Graendal may come under fire in Arad Doman. -------------------- "We need metaphors of magic and monsters in order to understand the human condition."-Stephen Donaldson "One of the greatest talents in the world is to never say two words when one will do." |
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Jun 6 2009, 12:00 PM
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Leaky's Resident Borg Queen Posts: 11,908 Joined: 11:45am July 25, 2005 Location: in space, the final frontier . . . |
QUOTE(MysteryloverAnne @ Jun 4 2009, 07:26 PM) And SoN, I love your new siggy! Thanks. That line really struck me when I was listening to Michael Kramer do that chapter with the portal. He reads the books so well, and that dang Forsaken just ticked me off the way he kept saying that!  I'm reading tDR and a couple of things struck me this morning. One deals the the Horn of Valere. They kept saying that they had to get it away from Fain and his Darkfriends because the Heroes of the Horn would follow whoever blew it. Yet when Mat blew it and Artur Hawkwing and the others came, they wouldn't ride until Rand raised the Dragon Banner. Doesn't that appear to be a contradiction? The other thing deals with what I think will be an upcoming storyline. The book cover for Gathering Storm talks about Rand's struggle with his sanity (who wouldn't struggle with a nutter like Lews Therin in his head). But as I was at the part in tDR where Egwene is being raised to Accepted, her second test (they all deal with Rand, so that says a lot about how much they are linked) dealt with Rand pleading with her to kill him with her blade (he saw her doing this in one of those alternate realities). Rand said that the madness made it harder for him to hold onto himself and the others would be able to turn him. Another thing that just occurred to me was Verin telling Egwene when she gave her the dream Ter'Angreal that the Dark One was bound in all the alternate realities. If he is released in one, he will be released in them all. 
This post has been edited by Seven of Nine: Jun 6 2009, 02:52 PM -------------------- "That's why he fought. That's why he lived again, and that was the answer to Tam's question. I fight because last time, I failed. I fight because I want to fix what I did wrong. I want to do it right this time" -- Rand |
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