Wise Wizard Wednesday Chat--neville Longbottom, transcript for August 15, 2007 |
 Aug 16 2007, 10:07 AM
Post
#1
|
|
Founders Groupie  Posts: 1,753 Joined: 8:52pm July 21, 2005 Location: Eating the Holy Grain and watching life return to the Forbidden Forest    |
Here is the transcript for this week's W3 chat. The moderators were : Aislinn, fawkes28, Prongs Patronus, and Sooner Gryffindor.
[18:28] <ProngsPatronus> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You're not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you'll be able to type again soon. [18:28] *** danae24 has joined #lounge [18:28] <ProngsPatronus> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod. [18:29] <ProngsPatronus> You won't be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like "Sooner, got it" in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [18:29] <ProngsPatronus> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [18:29] <ProngsPatronus> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [18:30] <SoonerGryffindor> Many of the characters in this series have changed over the course of the seven books. Few have changed as much as Neville Longbottom. When we first met him in PS/SS, he was a shy, forgetful, somewhat bumbling boy. [18:30] <SoonerGryffindor> By the time we meet up with him again in Deathly Hallows, Neville is leading the resistance movement in Hogwarts, and acts with the valor of a true Gryffindor. Let's discuss the path this character has taken, and the man that we have seen him become. [18:30] <SoonerGryffindor> What would you list as Neville's 3 primary qualities/characteristics? [18:30] <danae24> I would say he is brave, loving and loyal [18:31] <danae24> he is a true Gryffindor [18:31] <blue4t> oh yes loyalty first came to mind [18:31] <stewiegryf> Bravery, loyalty and caring [18:31] <ravenclawgirl34> so... [18:31] <fawkes28> yes definitely loyal and brave [18:31] <blue4t> So I would say brave, loyal, and a leader [18:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I agree, But when he started the sorting hat took a while to decide. Could he have been put into Hufflepuff? [18:31] <fawkes28> oh, i like leader [18:32] <blue4t> I kind of want to say he's an accidental leader... [18:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I would classify Neville as persevering [18:32] <danae24> He slowly learned to lead people, just like Harry did..... [18:32] <fawkes28> no, i think he is a true leader [18:32] <stewiegryf> I think so WWW. In OotP, Harry says that nobody works as hard as Neville, another quality of hufflepuff [18:32] *** Mdemvizi has joined #lounge [18:32] <blue4t> He's not looking to be the leader, but he's the best one for the job. [18:32] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think he has evolved into a leader. In book 1 he was no leader but in book 7 he was [18:32] <fawkes28> hey Mdemvizi [18:32] *** Bebhinn has joined #lounge [18:32] <fawkes28> hello Bebhinn [18:33] <Bebhinn> Hi e'one [18:33] <Mdemvizi> hey everyone. [18:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> hi bebhinn [18:33] <SoonerGryffindor> my 3 would be brave, persevering, and dependable [18:33] <Aislinn> I like those 3, sooner [18:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I would say he was brave, humble, and loyal [18:33] <danae24> All the experiences he has had made him get those leadership abilities, even if he doenst seem like the tipical leader [18:33] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks Aislinn [18:33] <blue4t> yes [18:34] <Mdemvizi> neville is so down to earth. one of my favorite characters [18:34] <SoonerGryffindor> well, Dumbledore says that the best leaders are the ones who dont seek it [18:34] *** ravenclawgirl34 has quit [Bye] [18:34] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> otherwise agree with Aislinn. Definitely humble. [18:34] <ProngsPatronus> i would pick humble, caring, and loyal [18:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville assumes a leadership role in the resistance movement at Hogwarts. How has Jo prepared his character for this role? [18:34] <ProngsPatronus> I think he comes into his bravery in the series [18:34] <Aislinn> focused on the goal, not the power. [18:35] <Aislinn> that seems to be the case for Neville [18:35] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Neville was the one who had the courage to stand up to not only his enemies but also his friends. [18:35] <blue4t> I think with his parents being tortured into sanity by death eaters give him the will to want to fight back. [18:35] <Bebhinn> I agree Sooner. The power-hungry tend to gaurd their ruloership, rather than work w/ the rest of the team. [18:35] <Mdemvizi> since he was the only one left he could then take the leadership tole [18:35] <SoonerGryffindor> well, having him share a dormitory with Harry for 6 years where he could observe him probably helped [18:35] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [18:35] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [18:35] <stewiegryf> I think that she has been preparing us since the beginning, when he stood up against the trio in SS. He's always stood up for what he thought was right. [18:36] <Mdemvizi> Yeah. He grew into his courage [18:36] <blue4t> Neville's got a stronger will than anyone left at Hogwarts that year so it's only natural that he becomes the leader. [18:36] <Aislinn> yes, even when he was shy and lacking in confidence, he had a real Gryffindor streak of courage and nobility [18:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I notice that he was prepared to stand by Harry when few others would. What a change from the beginning of OotP to the beginning of HBP! [18:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Neville's parents were more than likely leaders themselves seeing as they were both aurors. He had both natural ability and years of being friends with Harry and observing people like DD to hone those skills [18:36] <ProngsPatronus> I think that the DA made a deep inpression on him--he was asked to be a part of something, a team--and I bet that hadn't happened to him before [18:36] <fawkes28> he has been a leader since PS when he stood up to his friends - it just took some time for him to get over the past and become his own person [18:37] <blue4t> It took time for him to see it himself. [18:37] <blue4t> It was there, he just had to find it. [18:37] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He had to get away from Snape and his grandmother [18:37] <Mdemvizi> very true [18:37] <ProngsPatronus> plus, there was the long shadow of Harry [18:37] <SoonerGryffindor> also, the lack of the usual leaders being there left a void for Neville to fill [18:37] <Mdemvizi> snape always beat him down [18:37] <ProngsPatronus> with harry gone, Neville had his chance to shine [18:37] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Why wasn't Neville at Fleur and Bill's wedding? [18:37] <SoonerGryffindor> interesting that the year Snape become headmaster is the year that Neville rebels the most [18:37] <fawkes28> i don't think he ever compared himself to harry though, prongs [18:38] <stewiegryf> I think that it was his Gran's approval that give him that final push to become a leader. [18:38] <blue4t> Well, I don't think Neville knew Bill and Fleur. [18:38] <ProngsPatronus> I don't either, fawkes [18:38] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think Neville compared himself fawkes, but with harry gone there was need for a leader and Neville stepped into that void [18:38] <ProngsPatronus> I meant it not in the sense of comparison, but leadership vacuum [18:38] <SoonerGryffindor> right [18:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Possibly. Grandma Longbottom didn't speak of them as friends, only acquaintances [18:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I also think finally getting his Gran's approval helped a lot [18:39] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [18:39] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [18:39] <SoonerGryffindor> How has Neville's relationship with Gran evolved through the series? [18:39] <blue4t> Well, he finally got her approval. [18:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She should have approved of him. I think it also made a difference once he got his own wand. Sort of got out of his father's shadow at the same time [18:40] <Aislinn> it was so great to see her finally be proud of him, by the end of OotP, beginning of HBP [18:40] <fawkes28> Neville has a good sense of honor and I don't think he ever wanted to be seen as disrespectful even if he had to put up with a lot of her nonsense [18:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I can't help but wonder if the LeStranges being released from prison helped that relationship along [18:40] <Mdemvizi> In the begginging Neville's grandmother thought of him as not a wizard. When he got a new wand, and the end of OOTP showed that he was one. He got apporval [18:40] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps she learned to value Neville for himself, after that stinging comment by Prof. Mc Gonagall [18:40] <ProngsPatronus> about charms... [18:41] <Bebhinn> I think McGonnagal's remark about his Gran and her grades and that she should appreciate the grandson she has not the one she thinks she should have started to make Neville realize that he had it in him. [18:41] <fawkes28> I think she was the one that needed to get over her fears and once she did that it made a world of a difference for Neville [18:41] <blue4t> I wonder if she kept harping on the idea that he was nearly a Squib. [18:41] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It would have been a wake-up call. Even in GOF Neville had been aware of the Cruciatus curse [18:41] <stewiegryf> I think his Gran finally started to see what was there all along. It took a grand gesture (the Ministry battle) for her to see that Neville is brave, and is truly his father's son. [18:41] <SoonerGryffindor> it also seems as if Neville and his Gran [along with the weird uncle] are the only family they all have. [18:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> And then Neville was injured in the Lightning Struck tower skirmish [18:42] <blue4t> So, she's putting all the pressure on Neville to amount to something. [18:42] <ProngsPatronus> sometimes, it is a matter of being careful what one wishes for, just in case the wish is granted [18:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I liked it that Augusta Longbottom turned up to fight as well as the DA. [18:42] <SoonerGryffindor> For Augusta, Neville held her entire family's future. There was nobody else [18:43] <ProngsPatronus> yes--at least she didn't ask neville to do something she herself was not prepared to do also [18:43] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville's gran totally pwned Dawlish [18:43] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She doesn't seem to be a joiner, but when the chips were down she put her money where her mouth was [18:43] <blue4t> Maybe Neville led her to battle? [18:43] <Mdemvizi> Neville's grandmother was the best [18:43] <SoonerGryffindor> you can see where he gets some of his strength from [18:43] <ProngsPatronus> or where her wand was ! LOL [18:43] <Bebhinn> Blast....gotta go....Bright Blessings e'one. [18:43] <ProngsPatronus> bye, beb [18:44] *** Bebhinn left #lounge [Leaving] [18:44] <SoonerGryffindor> In PoA we learn that Neville's boggart is Professor Snape. Do you think that this remained his boggart through DH, or was it something else? [18:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye beb [18:44] <Mdemvizi> I really think it is something else.. [18:44] <Aislinn> No, I imagine that it probably changed over time, as he gained in confidence. [18:44] <blue4t> What would it change to? [18:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No, not at all. But it was a bit strange that it was Neville who avenged Snape. [18:44] *** StepInTime has joined #lounge [18:45] <stewiegryf> Snape as his boggart is a bit childish. I think that it would have changed to something like his friends dead or something. [18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome SIT [18:45] <Mdemvizi> I have no clue what is could be [18:45] <Mdemvizi> it* [18:45] <blue4t> Does the boggart go to what we are truly afraid of or what is fresh in our mind? [18:45] <fawkes28> hey stepintime [18:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I also think that Neville's boggart changed [18:45] <StepInTime> Thanks and hello! Glad to pop in. [18:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nope, we learn that he conquered his fear. But that Snape redoubled his bullying [18:45] *** Love4Fawkes has joined #lounge [18:46] <SoonerGryffindor> repeat of last question: In PoA we learn that Neville's boggart is Professor Snape. Do you think that this remained his boggart through DH, or was it something else? [18:46] <fawkes28> i think neville proved that he overcame this boggart when he resisted snape so much this year [18:46] *** Granjo has joined #lounge [18:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> The question is, why did Snape need to bully Neville? [18:46] <blue4t> He definitely did that. I don't think he fears professors anymore. [18:46] <blue4t> I think Snape likes to bully people he thinks are weak, kind of to make up for his childhood. [18:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He ended up becoming a professor himself. [18:46] <stewiegryf> Snape didn't need to; he did it because he could. [18:47] <Mdemvizi> I think Snape thought that Neville was weak so it was an easy target [18:47] <ProngsPatronus> I think Neville's boggart may have been Snape at first, but I bet it changed after the Ministry fight--I bet it was bella [18:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Snape resented Neville for not being the kid Voldemort went after [18:47] <Granjo> Snape just likes to pick on people. [18:47] <blue4t> Is he afraid of Bellatrix? [18:47] <blue4t> Does he know that Neville was a choice? [18:47] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nope Neville always stood up to Bellatrix, even when she crucio'ed him [18:47] <Love4Fawkes> I think Snape thought it should have been Neville's parents that were targeted instead of Lily [18:47] <stewiegryf> Oh, that's interesting Sooner. I never thought of that. [18:47] <fawkes28> i think his boggart became Harry dying [18:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I am willing to bet that his boggart became something along the lines of him not doing everything he could to help people. [18:48] <StepInTime> I wonder if his boggart became something to do with himself [18:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Now that is an interesting thought Sooner and Love 4 Fawkes [18:48] <StepInTime> like not fighting well or not being able to help? [18:48] <SoonerGryffindor> or someone getting hurt because of him [18:48] <SoonerGryffindor> he mentioned kids being tortured [18:48] <fawkes28> i dont think his boggart would have been bellatrix - he didnt ever seem to be afraid of dying himself [18:49] <ProngsPatronus> or failure [18:49] <fawkes28> i think he feared Harry dying [18:49] <blue4t> Not being brave? [18:49] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> that too. But Neville fought in all the battles. Getting rid of Nagini was cool. [18:49] <Mdemvizi> maybe his boggart was hogwarts falling [18:49] <blue4t> Interesting [18:49] <stewiegryf> I agree fawkes. I think he feared Voldemort winning and he saw Harry as the one who would finally defeat him. [18:49] <Granjo> Neville was very brave. [18:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I know what his boggart was not... it was not voldemort [18:49] <Love4Fawkes> I think Neville finally proved to himself he was worthy of Gryffindor, so he wouldn't fear not being brave any more. [18:49] <ProngsPatronus> that is an interesting thought, md [18:49] <Granjo> agree Sooner [18:50] <blue4t> True [18:50] <fawkes28> yes, he definitely proved that, sooner [18:50] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [18:50] <Mdemvizi> he was not scared of voldermort at all [18:50] <SoonerGryffindor> the "when hell freezes over" comment tells us that laugh [18:50] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No. Perhaps his grandmother's displeasure? I'm sure he loves her deeply even if she intimidates him a bit. [18:50] <blue4t> I wonder what was going through Voldemort's mind when Neville stood up to him. [18:50] <Love4Fawkes> His grandmother even proved how much she respected Neville in the end [18:50] <SoonerGryffindor> If Neville had still been using Frank Longbottom's old wand, would he have been as successful in DH? [18:51] <fawkes28> he probably wouldnt have been as strong [18:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No idea. By that time, Harry had lost his connection to LV [18:51] <blue4t> I think so. [18:51] <blue4t> It's about inner strength and bravery. [18:51] <fawkes28> but i think a lot of it had to do with inside his head rather than external [18:51] <Aislinn> I think he would still have been quite successful, but it probably would have hampered him a bit. [18:51] <Granjo> I think he would have been fine. [18:51] <ProngsPatronus> I think getting his own wand was a breakthrough for neville [18:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> no, I don't think so. He still would have been overshadowed by his dad. [18:51] <Love4Fawkes> I think that he would have been as strong. I agree with blue, his strength came from withint [18:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that with all of the wandlore we learned of that we can be reasonable assured that it would not have worked as well [18:51] <Aislinn> yes, Prongs - finally one that chose him [18:51] <ProngsPatronus> yes [18:51] <blue4t> I agree, Prongs. [18:52] <SoonerGryffindor> We see just how much wizards and their wands are connected [18:52] <blue4t> True, Sooner, but I think a lot of what Neville did didn't have a lot to do with the wand. [18:52] <Granjo> It is best, but not essential. [18:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Wands to channel what is within. Some do it better than others. [18:52] <fawkes28> i think for him it was more about that fact that his grandmom wouldnt give him his own wand [18:52] <ProngsPatronus> yes--I believe that his new wand meant a "new" Neville [18:52] <blue4t> Yes [18:52] <Mdemvizi> DH taught us all about wands [18:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was more of a mental edge than anything [18:52] <Granjo> It helped. [18:53] <Love4Fawkes> I can see how the wand would have helped Neville mentally. I had never really thought of that. [18:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> There had to be a reason why he was so good with herbology. Because it is living things? [18:53] <blue4t> Perhaps the wand helped give him more courage? [18:53] <blue4t> Perhaps the wand helped give him more courage? [18:53] <ProngsPatronus> again, we have something choosing Neville--just like the DA [18:53] <fawkes28> even though i think it was an internal process for neville - we did learn a lot about wand lore so i am certain that having his own wand did make a difference because it chose him [18:53] <StepInTime> or his wand was his own "voice" so to speak -- not his gran, or his parents [18:54] <blue4t> that sounds good [18:54] *** stewiegryf left #lounge [] [18:54] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Does to me. [18:54] <SoonerGryffindor> Why is it that Neville understood the Room of Requirement better than anybody else? [18:54] <blue4t> Because he's the man. ;) [18:54] <Granjo> He had paid attention. [18:54] <fawkes28> i think he had a lot more time in his 7th year than harry ever had [18:54] <StepInTime> yes Granjo! [18:54] <Aislinn> I think that he is an intuitive and sensitive type of person [18:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In the film they provided one explanation, that Neville had found it beforehand, due to Draco's bullying [18:55] <Aislinn> this would probably help him with the room. [18:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Aislinn [18:55] <blue4t> He knew exactly what to ask for. [18:55] <StepInTime> He watched and listened carefully -- or "required" more than others [18:55] <Mdemvizi> very true [18:55] <ProngsPatronus> Neville is an onserver [18:55] <SoonerGryffindor> interesting that they made Neville the one who discovered it in the film with the events of DH [18:55] <ProngsPatronus> observer, even [18:55] <blue4t> It wasn't that he thought of the right question, but that he was feeling it inside. [18:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I'm sure that it was a minor clue that JK [18:55] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, it was interesting - worked out well for the future movie [18:56] <blue4t> It was really what he wanted. It just happened to be the perfect request. [18:56] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> JKR knew about [18:56] <Mdemvizi> weird coincidence [18:56] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville did something that nobody else prior to him did. He understood how to close the loopholes in it [18:56] <Love4Fawkes> He was intuitive, he knew what the room needed to hear. He thought about exactly what he wanted. Maybe he even knew exactly what he wanted. [18:56] <StepInTime> Or he tried and tried again -- he's persistent [18:56] <blue4t> What was the loophole that he closed? [18:56] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Maybe he would have cottoned on to what Draco was doing if he had been asked [18:56] <blue4t> It was to keep the Carrows out, right? [18:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Neville would have been able to wagga [18:57] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes [18:57] <Love4Fawkes> Neville learned from the failure of the DA [18:57] <Granjo> He absolutely took charge in 7th year DA. [18:57] <Mdemvizi> woot for neville [18:57] <StepInTime> or woohoot [18:58] <SoonerGryffindor> Why do you think the Room of Requirement opened a tunnel to the Hog's Head, when Neville asked it for food? [18:58] <Granjo> He had had plenty of time to think about the future of the DA. [18:58] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I don't think the DA really failed. They weren't there for the MOM fight or the Lightning struck tower fight but were there all wands blazing for the final battle. [18:58] <SoonerGryffindor> everyone ignore fawkes, its really woot [18:58] <ProngsPatronus> because elves take care of the food at hogwarts [18:58] <fawkes28> erm, no - woot is banned from the CB [18:58] <Mdemvizi> that was weird for me. i thought it would go to the kitchens [18:58] <blue4t> That's a good question. [18:58] <Love4Fawkes> Oh I meant the failure with the room Wagga. They didn't close it enough to keep an enemy out [18:58] <blue4t> Does it have something to do with Aberforth? [18:58] <fawkes28> i think that the room knew that Neville needed outside help [18:59] <Love4Fawkes> I agree Fawkes [18:59] <Mdemvizi> yeah that might be it [18:59] <fawkes28> and food just cant come from nowhere [18:59] * SoonerGryffindor still wonders what would have happened had Harry used the room to find horcruxes [18:59] <StepInTime> Maybe the house-elves had been prohibited from helping... [18:59] <fawkes28> according to that lovely law [18:59] <StepInTime> ...and the RoR knew it [18:59] <Granjo> I think the room knew where to go to get it. [18:59] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [18:59] <ProngsPatronus> maybe he had a picture in his mind of the feasts at Hogwarts, with DD at the head table--and the room sent him to the nearest incarnation of dd left [18:59] <Love4Fawkes> Well the house-elves are apart of Hogwarts that it was dangerous to casually walk into. They need to get food elsewhere [19:00] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [19:00] <blue4t> interesting, Prongs, I like that idea. [19:00] <SoonerGryffindor> makes you wonder how long of a tunnel could be made if the need was big enough [19:00] <blue4t> This makes me wonder where Hog's Head is in relation to Hogwarts. [19:00] <Mdemvizi> it could take you anywhere probaly [19:00] <Granjo> The house elves could not have done it. [19:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Also there is the difficulty that house elves loyal to Hogwarts, and to the headmaster [19:00] <SoonerGryffindor> so what if you decided you really needed gold? Would it take you to Gringott's? [19:00] <Aislinn> yes, I think it would have been risky to go to the kitchens [19:00] <Mdemvizi> that would be really cool [19:00] <Granjo> They needed to go inside from the hallway. [19:01] <blue4t> I think it depends on if it's a need rather than just a want. [19:01] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think that Gringotts would have been a big ask. Ye old ATM would be just as good [19:01] <ProngsPatronus> I am sure Snape made sure the elves would have reported any activity of that nature [19:01] <blue4t> So that's the secret of the RoR. You can't just want the room. You have to need it. [19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> . In the initial sorting, Neville was sure he would wind up in Hufflepuff because he lacked any extraordinary talent. What moments throughout the series have defined Neville as a true Gryffindor? [19:01] <Love4Fawkes> As if a wizard could work an ATM laugh [19:01] <fawkes28> when he stood up to his friends in PS [19:01] <StepInTime> In SS -- trying to stop the Trio [19:01] <Aislinn> standing up to the trio in the first book [19:02] <fawkes28> that is one of my favorite neville moments [19:02] <Aislinn> certainly being the Snake Slayer in the final one! [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> when he got rid of his boggart [19:02] <Mdemvizi> pulling the sword out of the hat! [19:02] <Love4Fawkes> Even from the beginning he was brave. He just needed to learn that about himself [19:02] <blue4t> He stood up to Draco in SS "I'm worth twelve of you, Malfoy." [19:02] <fawkes28> oh, nice one, blue [19:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> when in POa he owned up to being the person who left the passwords lying around [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> that is good Wagga [19:02] <blue4t> He totally proved that he is. [19:02] <Aislinn> yes, that took courage, wagga [19:02] <Aislinn> the way he buckled down and worked in the DA in OotP [19:02] <StepInTime> And when he went after Draco for making fun of patients of St Mungos [19:02] <fawkes28> wanting to come with Harry to the DoM even though he knew he would be in danger [19:02] <Love4Fawkes> I was just going to say that Aislinn [19:03] <Aislinn> and the way he kept trying to help Harry in the Dept. of Mysteries [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> when he faced off against Bella at the DoM [19:03] <ProngsPatronus> for me, the quintessential Neville moment was when he stood by Harry in the ministry [19:03] <fawkes28> yes, aislinn and he worked harder than anyone [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Prongs [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> broken nose and everything [19:03] <blue4t> Fighting in HBP without the potion. [19:03] <fawkes28> lol snap [19:03] <Love4Fawkes> All the work he did at the MoM. He was detirmined and brave [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> and he kept telling Harry not to hand over the prophecy [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> when he had no idea what it even was [19:03] <Mdemvizi> he was going to keep fighting in DH [19:03] <ProngsPatronus> yes--that was brave to me [19:03] <fawkes28> attempting to steal the sword in snape's office [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> trying to steal from Snape has to be in the top 3 [19:04] <fawkes28> especially being the only one to come forward to face voldemort - that is one of the bravest acts in the whole series [19:04] <Aislinn> "he's dot alone! He's still god be!" [19:04] <StepInTime> awww... [19:04] <Love4Fawkes> Becoming the leader he was in DH was very brave! [19:04] <fawkes28> how can you not love Neville? [19:04] <ProngsPatronus> yes--the quintessential Neville [19:04] <Mdemvizi> who doesn't love neville? [19:04] <blue4t> Oh, Neville [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> What does it say about Neville that he was able to pull the Sword of Gryffindor from the Sorting Hat? [19:05] <Love4Fawkes> Even taking the classes he wanted in HPB (and not the ones his grandmother wanted) was brave [19:05] <blue4t> He's a true Gryffindor. [19:05] <StepInTime> as brave as Harry [19:05] <Mdemvizi> he is a true gryffindor [19:05] <ProngsPatronus> that he was, indeed, a true Gryffindor [19:05] <fawkes28> through and through [19:05] <Aislinn> that he is a true Gryffindor, through and through. [19:05] <Aislinn> snap! [19:05] <Love4Fawkes> Right, what everyone else said [19:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That Neville was a true Gryffindor [19:05] <blue4t> He belongs. [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> it tells me that the sorting hat was right about him all alongt [19:05] <Mdemvizi> we all agree smile [19:05] <fawkes28> yes, it was [19:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Turning up to fight with Harry in HBP [19:05] <Aislinn> it must have been terrifying, to stand in front of LV and defy him like that [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> he didnt seem scared [19:06] <Aislinn> and then to have the hat burst into flames on his head [19:06] <Love4Fawkes> Oh I couldn't even imagine [19:06] <ProngsPatronus> I think that neville was beyond fear at that point [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he was so past scared [19:06] <Aislinn> no, he drew on his great courage [19:06] <fawkes28> yes he stood his ground [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> snap Prongs [19:06] <blue4t> Oh, yeah [19:06] <fawkes28> and didnt back away [19:06] <ProngsPatronus> :-) [19:06] <fawkes28> and thus was rewarded [19:06] <blue4t> I bet he had no idea that the sword was going to come out of the hat. [19:06] <ProngsPatronus> he was, after all, the other child of the Prophecy [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> you get to a point wher you can only feel so much fear and then you just go on [19:07] <blue4t> Whatever happens, happens. He knew it needed to be done. [19:07] <ProngsPatronus> he said to LV what he never got to say to Snape [19:07] <Mdemvizi> neville longbottom and the deathly hallows makes me laugh if neville was the star [19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry, Hermione, and Ron make up the primary trio while Ginny, Neville, and Luna make up the secondary trio. What is Neville's role in the secondary trio? [19:07] *** Granjo left #lounge [Leaving] [19:07] <fawkes28> i think he is a leader in that trio [19:07] <Mdemvizi> harry [19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I think his role parallels that of Harry's role [19:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> As leader I think. Ginny and Luna helped ably I'm sure, but Luna captured [19:08] <Love4Fawkes> I agree Fawkes and Sooner [19:08] <ProngsPatronus> I think he is the ron of that trio [19:08] <blue4t> Does that group have a leader? [19:08] <fawkes28> look at how he was relentless while the primary trio was gone [19:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ginny Harry's girlfriend. [19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I see Luna as being the Hermione of the group, and ginny being like Ron [19:08] <fawkes28> i think all 6 of them are leaders but i think Neville had the most motivation especialy in the secondary trio [19:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> and Ron's sister [19:08] <ProngsPatronus> I equated ginny with harry, since they are equals [19:09] <blue4t> I do, too. [19:09] <Love4Fawkes> That trio might not have had a leader in the beginning, but I think Neville certainly stepped up to that role when they didn't have the other trio to follow [19:09] <ProngsPatronus> luna with hermione, and neville with ron [19:09] <Aislinn> and she is as brave as any of them [19:09] <Aislinn> she is also a brash as the twins [19:09] <Aislinn> I bet it was ginny's idea to steal the sword. [19:09] <StepInTime> I think Neville was the leader, but a different one than Harry. More thoughtful, while Ginny's more "rash" or actionary [19:09] <blue4t> How do you see Neville as Ron? [19:09] <Love4Fawkes> I think so too Aislinn [19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> but Neville could have also been the chosen one if Harry had not been picked. I think it is Neville's destiny to be equivalent to harry in the other circle [19:09] <blue4t> Ah, yeah, I see that. [19:10] <ProngsPatronus> good reasons for several different scenarios [19:10] <fawkes28> neville is just as brave as harry, if not more, at times [19:10] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes, I'd agree. Interesting the choice of people to destroy the horcruxes. It wasn't Harry except for the diary and the one within himself. [19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> neville isnt as brash as Harry, but that might actually be a strength [19:10] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps they were simply more egalitarian in the second trio [19:10] <StepInTime> I think all 6 are very different -- all different strengths [19:11] <Aislinn> yes, Prongs - I don't know if there is a direct, one to one relationship [19:11] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> yes, Hermione more logical less dreamy than Luna [19:11] <blue4t> Do you think the snake might have represented Slytherin... [19:11] <fawkes28> exactly, stepintime [19:11] <blue4t> Neville was always being picked on by Slytherins (Snape, Draco) [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> there isnt, but I do think that Neville was the actual ringleader. Not to say that Ginny and Luna did not have their moments of leadership though [19:11] <ProngsPatronus> lol--by killing Nagini, he killed their taunts of him [19:11] *** Mdemvizi has quit [Bye] [19:11] <StepInTime> interesting, blue! [19:12] <Aislinn> Neville was the one who wore the mantle of leadership longest. [19:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> good point pp. [19:12] <Aislinn> Since Luna was captured, and Ginny had to hide at Easter. [19:12] <ProngsPatronus> it has...symmetry [19:12] <StepInTime> yes Aislinn [19:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ginny protected more so than the others. Harry worried for her. [19:12] <Aislinn> Ginny had a large family worrying about her as well. [19:12] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps, if the second trio had not been separated during DH, there would be a more direct comparison [19:13] <blue4t> perhaps [19:13] <Aislinn> yes, that's possible [19:13] <StepInTime> I can buy that, Prongs [19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville is able to take advantage of his pureblood status to escape extreme punishment and promote the Order's agenda. What do you think about Neville using the Ministry's own weapon against itself? [19:13] <ProngsPatronus> I love that he did that [19:13] <Love4Fawkes> It was brilliant! [19:13] <blue4t> He outsmarted them. [19:13] <StepInTime> also shows how brave he is -- he didn't take the easy way out [19:13] <Aislinn> That was so perfect [19:13] <Love4Fawkes> They were totally asking for it! [19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> He was in a unique position. He knew that he was more "untouchable" than the rest [19:14] <ProngsPatronus> and it has a subtle irony that, I am sure, Neville appreciated [19:14] <fawkes28> it gave him the advantage to be directly where he needed to be [19:14] <Aislinn> It was a great strategy. [19:14] <Love4Fawkes> I agree Prongs [19:14] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I'm sure it would. And his experience of being considered almost a squib was turned around completely [19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> to me, this is like a soldier going purposely to the front line of battle because they know they stand a better chance of surving than another soldier does [19:15] <blue4t> He's definitely nowhere near being a Squib. [19:15] <StepInTime> or like an aristocratic "Robin Hood" [19:15] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nope but the Slytherins thought he was [19:15] <SoonerGryffindor> he was taking more of the heat because he knew most of the others would not be able to get away with it [19:15] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Talk about an undercover agent for the opposition. [19:15] <Aislinn> there were things he could accomplish using this that others would have been severely punished for, or killed. [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> It shows what a great leader he is because he does not ask anybody to do anything that he is not willing to do himself [19:16] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Oops I have to go now. Yes, Neville underestimated in many ways. [19:16] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye. [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> bye wagga [19:16] <blue4t> bye [19:16] <ProngsPatronus> bye, W3! [19:16] <Love4Fawkes> bye wagga [19:17] <Love4Fawkes> That's a great point Sooner. [19:17] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has quit [Bye] [19:17] <ProngsPatronus> he has a good example of that in Harry [19:17] <Aislinn> yes he does [19:17] <ProngsPatronus> Neville and harry are more alike than different, I think [19:17] <Aislinn> and he learned the lesson well. [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> he even says that he learned a lot from harry [19:17] <Love4Fawkes> Oh I agree Prongs [19:17] <blue4t> Yes, Prongs, and I think that's important. [19:18] <blue4t> They're shown in the beginning to be very different. [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> What does it say about Neville Longbottom that, after drawing the Sword, he immediately seizes the moment to fulfill Harry's last request of him (i.e., to destroy Nagini)? [19:18] <blue4t> And in the end we find they're more alike than we could've imagined. [19:18] <StepInTime> He's not in it for personal glory but for the fight [19:18] <StepInTime> There's a job to be done [19:18] <ProngsPatronus> did neville know harry was not dead when he did that--I can't remember [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> it was such an act of self-sacrifice [19:18] <Love4Fawkes> He is a faithful and loyal friend. he doesn't even know why the snake needs to be killed [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> by all accounts he would have been killed for it [19:19] <blue4t> He does what has to be done. [19:19] <SoonerGryffindor> Neville still thought harry was dead [19:19] <Aislinn> it was a brilliant moment - he was focused on the job that needed to be done, honoring Harry's memory, since he thought Harry was dead [19:19] <SoonerGryffindor> it goes to show that Harry trusted the right person with this very important task [19:19] <ProngsPatronus> just as harry honored DD's request after DD's death [19:19] <StepInTime> Harry's request/order was on his mind. He was still in the fight, not giving up. [19:19] <ProngsPatronus> a chain of caring [19:19] <Aislinn> yes he did, sooner [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how Neville does not ever question harry [19:20] <Aislinn> loyalty and a desire to do what is best for your friends seem to be as important Gryffindor qualities as bravery [19:20] <Aislinn> and Neville has this in spades. [19:20] <ProngsPatronus> chivalry [19:20] <StepInTime> near-Hufflepuff quantities [19:20] <ProngsPatronus> that is what it is [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> he trusts him enough to know that if Harry asks him to do it, it is important and needs to be done [19:20] <Aislinn> yes, chivalry. [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> and then he does it-- no excuses [19:21] <ProngsPatronus> an important Gryffindor characteristic--and one often overlooked [19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I think if my head had just been on fire, I might have collapsed [19:21] <Aislinn> right, sooner, me too! [19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> but not Neville... he proceeds to decaptiate Nagini [19:22] <ProngsPatronus> well, Neville is his parent's son there--they endured the Cruciatus, and neville, his head being on fire [19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I would love to know what inner dialogue occured for him to get the sword [19:23] <Love4Fawkes> me too Sooner. That would be great [19:23] <Aislinn> probably something like - I need help to fulfill what Harry asked of me! I can't let him down! [19:23] <ProngsPatronus> maybe he said to himself that he was Harry's man, through and through [19:23] <blue4t> Love it, Prongs [19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> oh man [19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> those are all such great answers [19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> What, if any significance is it to the fact that Neville was the one to avenge Snape's death by slaying Nagini? [19:24] <Aislinn> it's a bit ironic, considering the relationship between the two over the years. [19:24] <ProngsPatronus> not only Snape's death [19:25] <StepInTime> absolutely Aislinn [19:25] <ProngsPatronus> Moaning Myrtle's, too [19:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I love it. there was no way that Neville knew it, but I bet Snape would have been mortified [19:25] <Aislinn> he probably would have been, sooner, and totally shocked. [19:25] <fawkes28> snape definitely would have embarassed [19:25] *** Love4Fawkes has quit [Bye] [19:26] <fawkes28> i love how harry gave neville orders and neville followed through [19:26] <ProngsPatronus> I bet Myrtle congratulated him later [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm sure he would have made one last snarky comment to Neville if he could have [19:26] <fawkes28> he didnt even question it, he just did [19:26] <StepInTime> Some critique of his process? [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:26] <ProngsPatronus> probably of his waving a wand around-- [19:27] <ProngsPatronus> not Potions-like at all [19:27] <fawkes28> lol he may have [19:27] <SoonerGryffindor> Prior to DH, many readers thought Neville in justice should be the one to take out Bellatrix, who visited so much misery upon his family. Do you think Neville deserved an opportunity to take revenge? [19:28] <ProngsPatronus> DH was all about letting go of revenge, not taking it [19:28] <blue4t> I think he did deserve an opportunity, but just by being the leader of the DA he did enough to avenge his parents torture. [19:28] <Aislinn> I'm so glad that Neville did not kill Bella [19:28] <StepInTime> I think that he honored his family in what he did. [19:28] <StepInTime> Without killing Bella [19:29] <StepInTime> or Rodolphus or other LeStrange or Crouch [19:29] <StepInTime> without it being a vengeance quest [19:29] *** danae24 has quit [Bye] [19:29] <blue4t> I wonder if he told them what he did. Would they be proud? Not so much proud of their son (I don't think they know he is their son), but just proud of the person who did these great things. [19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I am very glad that Neville did not have to kill anything except for nagini [19:30] <StepInTime> We know his gran was proud. [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> Bella was not worth it [19:30] <StepInTime> That may be all he needs. [19:30] <ProngsPatronus> I think that, in not being the one to dispatch Bella, Neville saved his bravery for the really important thing--killing nagini [19:30] <StepInTime> agree Sooner [19:30] <Aislinn> I think that stopping Voldy was justice plenty [19:30] <blue4t> True. I don't think he would be looking for it from his parents. I just wondered if and how he would tell his parents. [19:30] <ProngsPatronus> it is akin to Harry choosing to go after the Horcruxes, rather than the Hallows [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> killing 1/7th of Voldemort was pretty special [19:30] <Aislinn> he was the one that made Voldy mortal again, even if he didn't know that was what he was doing. [19:30] <StepInTime> Blue, I definitely think he would tell them. [19:30] <Aislinn> yes, good analogy Prongs [19:30] <StepInTime> They just probably wouldn't understand [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> excellent point Aislinn [19:31] <blue4t> Then his mom would hand him some gum wrappers. [19:31] <ProngsPatronus> who knows? [19:31] <ProngsPatronus> they might understand even though they are not aware of a lot [19:31] <StepInTime> true [19:31] <blue4t> true [19:31] <ProngsPatronus> I am sure the name bella would grab their attention [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> without what Neville did, Voldemort would not have been utterly gone. Besides, Molly needed her moment [19:32] <blue4t> Killing Nagini is more important than killing Bellatrix. [19:32] <Aislinn> for Neville to have killed Bella, it would have been stone cold revenge. [19:32] <Aislinn> Having Molly do it was more of a current, active defense of her family. [19:32] <ProngsPatronus> we needed to see that Miolly was a witch as well as a mother--and a pureblood adult--fitting adversary to Bella, who would have sacrificed her children to LV without a thought [19:32] <blue4t> Yes, but she didn't use the killing curse, so it wasn't like she was out for death. [19:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I have to say that I never foresaw Molly being the one to kill Bella, but I love the way it all turned out [19:33] <Aislinn> me too sooner [19:33] <Aislinn> I never would have predicted that, but it was a very satisfying end to Bella. [19:33] <StepInTime> love Molly! glad she got her day! [19:33] <ProngsPatronus> yes--they are perfectly matched--both purebloods, one a mother, the other, an anti-mother [19:33] <SoonerGryffindor> . Why was Snape so much crueler to Neville than to other students? [19:34] <blue4t> He saw Neville as weak. [19:34] <ProngsPatronus> because Neville never fought back--he just took it [19:34] <StepInTime> because it bothered Neville [19:34] <fawkes28> m [19:34] <blue4t> Neville came to school as a clumsy, forgetful boy. [19:34] <Aislinn> like a classic bully, he honed in on the ones he perceived as easy marks [19:34] <blue4t> He's an easy target for a bully. [19:34] <ProngsPatronus> those who enjoy inflicting pain love people like that [19:34] <StepInTime> and because Neville was targeted by Slytherin students as well [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I still think it is becasue voldemort did not choose Neville, thus ensuring that lily died [19:35] <StepInTime> and Snape kinda played to that [19:35] <ProngsPatronus> the Slytherins would have been following Snape's example [19:35] <StepInTime> Couldn't it be both? [19:35] <ProngsPatronus> and I think that is a great insight, sooner [19:36] <blue4t> I think it is both. If Neville had come to school with different traits...not forgetful and clumsy, then Snape might not have had an easy time picking on him and thus may have stopped. [19:36] <StepInTime> That Snape didn't like him already, and then Neville wasn't even a standout or spectacular student or wizard [19:36] <SoonerGryffindor> however.... one cannot help but wonder if it would have been Lily at st Mungoes instead of Alice [19:36] <Aislinn> true, sooner. [19:36] <StepInTime> particularly compared to Lily [19:36] <ProngsPatronus> I don't think Lily would have wound up at St. Mungoes [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> why not? [19:37] <ProngsPatronus> she was Muggleborn [19:37] <blue4t> Would she have not gone insane? [19:37] <ProngsPatronus> Bella would have killed her [19:37] <blue4t> oh [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> my theory is that they were caught while torturing them [19:37] <StepInTime> agree Sooner [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> but now we will never know for sure [19:37] <ProngsPatronus> I think you are right, sooner [19:37] <StepInTime> otherwise how could they have been prosecuted [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah [19:38] <StepInTime> amongst all other DEs? [19:38] <ProngsPatronus> I still think that lily, being a Muggleborn, would have been killed after a short bit of torture [19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> What do you see as the turning point in the series for Neville? [19:38] <ProngsPatronus> the MoM battle [19:39] <StepInTime> DEs escape from Azkaban in OOTP [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was during PoA [19:39] <Aislinn> bella being released [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> when Lupin took the time to be nice to him and encourage him [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> he had never had a teacher do that before [19:39] <blue4t> Oh, yes, that's a good point, Sooner. [19:39] <StepInTime> Professor Sprout [19:39] <Aislinn> that definitely helped him develop his confidence [19:39] <ProngsPatronus> yes, SIT [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> after that he seemed to change [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> he had the guts in 4th year to ask 2 girls to the ball before Harry or Ron did [19:40] <StepInTime> and to dance with his date, as well! [19:40] <blue4t> I like that, haha. [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> Do you feel that Neville has overcome his insecurities? [19:40] <StepInTime> But I think in terms of his *magic* confidence [19:41] <ProngsPatronus> yes--he found somethin he was good at, and harry was not good at [19:41] <StepInTime> Does anyone ever overcome all of their insecurities? [19:41] <blue4t> Yes. [19:41] <ProngsPatronus> I think Neville has grown into his own man [19:41] <SoonerGryffindor> great point SIT [19:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he has gotten over the most unrealistic of them if that makes any sense [19:41] <Aislinn> no they don't SIT [19:41] <blue4t> That is a good point. [19:42] <StepInTime> I definitely think that he overcame the insecurities that he started Hogwarts with. [19:42] <blue4t> Yes [19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> like his fear of being practially a squib [19:42] <StepInTime> haha [19:42] <Aislinn> I think that people learn to control them better, rather than letting the insecurities control them. [19:42] <SoonerGryffindor> that is very true [19:42] <StepInTime> But I'm sure that as life progressed, new insecurities popped up [19:42] <Aislinn> and Neville has learned to work around his. [19:42] <StepInTime> but having faced some before, it's easier to know that you can work through them [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> but how nice would it be to be able to look back and remember that you slayed Voldemort;s snake when you were only 17 [19:43] <StepInTime> I would say that any insecurties that he had were forever mitigated by that! [19:43] <ProngsPatronus> well, neville learned to face death, just as harry did [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> this is another reason that I think PoA was the biggest turning point for Neville. He learned how to face his fear [boggart] and he was good at it [19:43] <ProngsPatronus> he looked LV in the eye, and spat [19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, spitting on LV was quite brave [19:44] <blue4t> Good point, Sooner. [19:44] <StepInTime> lol [19:44] <ProngsPatronus> after all, of all the characters in the series, neville knew that there was far worse than death in the WW [19:44] <blue4t> Ooh, yes [19:44] <Aislinn> very true, as he has experienced it for years with his parents [19:44] <StepInTime> agree, Prongs [19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> this is another good point. He has had to deal with thesituation with his parents. that must have been hell [19:45] <StepInTime> and his gran -- great as she is -- wasn't all warm and fuzzy [19:45] <ProngsPatronus> yes--LV should have known that neviile would be true to his blood--his parents, rather than LV [19:45] <blue4t> And then there's that uncle... [19:45] <StepInTime> ...throwing him out of windows [19:46] <ProngsPatronus> lol [19:46] <blue4t> Haha, he didn't throw him, he just let go. [19:46] <ProngsPatronus> defenestration as a form of magical detection [19:46] <SoonerGryffindor> poor kid [19:46] <StepInTime> important distinction [19:46] <blue4t> What's he doing holding him out a window or on the ledge or whatever anyway? [19:47] <ProngsPatronus> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. [19:47] <SoonerGryffindor> In the epilogue, we find out that Neville is the herbology professor, but that is about all we learn of him. Do you think Neville ever married and had a family? [19:47] <fawkes28> Aww, I think he would be a great dad so I hope so [19:47] <StepInTime> I think that being a parent would have been important to him [19:47] <ProngsPatronus> I think he did--and I bet he became head of House Gryffindor [19:47] <SoonerGryffindor> it would be super cool to find out he did, but the way that Ginny was talking about him, I got the impression he was still single [19:47] <blue4t> I did, too, Sooner. [19:48] <fawkes28> see, we never did find out about the professors and there personal lives [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I know [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> that was aggravating [19:48] <StepInTime> Where would he have kept his family at Hogwarts? [19:48] <fawkes28> maybe one day [19:48] <ProngsPatronus> another unfulfilled question [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe Jo wrote it in the original epilogue [19:48] <blue4t> I got the feeling that it would be kind of hard to have a family as a professor at Hogwarts. [19:48] <fawkes28> Hogwarts is huge! [19:48] <fawkes28> or perhaps in Hogsmeade [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I am so glad that Neville finally got his dream job [19:48] <Aislinn> he may have been focused on his plants and his students, and his fellow teachers. [19:48] <Aislinn> it is an extended family. [19:48] <StepInTime> agree, Aislinn [19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> well, as an adult who has been both married and single, I have to say that it is way more fun to be single [19:49] <ProngsPatronus> besides--it would have been hellish to have Gran vet all his dates! [19:49] <blue4t> His family isn't blood or legal, but he's got one with Harry, Ginny, Ron, and Hermione. [19:49] <fawkes28> i am sure neville had plenty of dates after the battle [19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> heck yes [19:49] <Aislinn> yes, just because he may not be married would not mean that he was unfulfilled, or unhappy. [19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> he had girls all around him [19:49] <blue4t> He had a lot of admirers, surely some of them have crushes. [19:50] <Aislinn> good point, about his friendships blue4t [19:50] <ProngsPatronus> and he dances... [19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I love it that Neville took Harry's place as the one the girls were batting their eyelashes at [19:52] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> testing [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> boo [19:52] <StepInTime> BTW this was my first CB chat [19:52] <fawkes28> i see you [19:52] <fawkes28> we are glad you came, stepintime [19:52] <StepInTime> Enjoyed it! [19:52] <fawkes28> good smile [19:52] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> test [19:53] <Aislinn> test [19:53] <ProngsPatronus> hope you will join us for some more chats, SIT [19:53] <fawkes28> i see you both [19:53] <StepInTime> Thanks so much, and I hope to! [19:53] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [19:53] *** StepInTime left #lounge [Leaving] [19:53] <fawkes28> poor snuffles is having issues today [19:54] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> test [19:54] <Aislinn> there you are, sooner [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> sheesh [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> it died [19:54] <Aislinn> for me as well. [19:54] <fawkes28> you see it now? [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> Whose teaching style do you think Neville's most resembles? [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> so there is the last question I tried to load [19:54] <ProngsPatronus> well, it seems the CB is acting up again [19:54] <fawkes28> oh, i like this one [19:54] <ProngsPatronus> shall we call it a night? [19:55] <fawkes28> no, no [19:55] <fawkes28> let's answer it [19:55] <blue4t> Tough question [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> LUPIN [19:55] <Aislinn> either Sprout's or Lupin's [19:55] <ProngsPatronus> cool [19:55] <ProngsPatronus> I bet Lupin's [19:55] <blue4t> Definitely not Snape. [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> hahahahah [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> that's hilarious blue [19:55] <fawkes28> i would think he would be like Lupin [19:55] <fawkes28> because he would watch out for all his students and give certain ones the right encouragement [19:55] <blue4t> But, now that you all say Lupin I don't see how I didn't see that. [19:56] <ProngsPatronus> although he does insist on respect in his class--remember that, although he knows harry's kids, he is "Professor Longbottom"? [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> Do you think Neville could have done what Harry had done in sacrificing himself? [19:56] <ProngsPatronus> yes, I do [19:56] <fawkes28> i think he would have sacrificed himself [19:56] <Aislinn> He was ready to, when he confronted LV [19:56] <fawkes28> he pretty much did when he came forward [19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he proved it by spitting on LV and coming forward [19:57] <blue4t> I think he could. Him killing Neville showed that it didn't matter which one LV chose. Neither was weak. [19:57] <blue4t> Oops [19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> he had to think it was a suicide mission at that point intime [19:57] <blue4t> I said Neville when I meant Nagini. [19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:58] <fawkes28> he had no fear just like harry [19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> well guys, that was the last question I had [19:58] <ProngsPatronus> so glad you could chat with us, blue [19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry that the CB was being such a PITA [19:59] <blue4t> I love how this shows that Harry and Neville started out (at school) very differently, but in the end they were very much alike. [19:59] <ProngsPatronus> sorry about the technical problems [19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> looks like the rest of Leaky has been down for a while now [19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> nobody new could join us [19:59] <SoonerGryffindor> excellent observation blue [19:59] <ProngsPatronus> well, it is time to give poor Snuffles a rest [20:00] <fawkes28> aww, they were, blue [20:00] <fawkes28> thanks for coming smile [20:00] <ProngsPatronus> we need to close the Booth now [20:00] <blue4t> Enjoyed the chat. [20:00] <fawkes28> next time hopefully snuffles will behave [20:00] <Aislinn> I hope you can join us again for a future one, blue [20:01] <blue4t> If I don't forget. I've wanted to join earlier ones, but by the time I remember it's over. sad [20:01] <ProngsPatronus> night night! [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> awww [20:01] <blue4t> Night [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> Night [20:01] <fawkes28> night [20:01] *** blue4t has quit [Bye] |
 |
 
 
|
