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[18:56] *** Snuffles changed the topic to: What Can We Learn from JKR's Interviews? (Aislinn) [19:01] <Aislinn> Hi padfoot! [19:01] <Padfoot4Eva> Hi! [19:01] *** Jrg1990 has joined #lounge [19:01] <Aislinn> oops, got to get into my color! [19:01] <Aislinn> ah, much better [19:01] <Jrg1990> good evening smile [19:01] <Padfoot4Eva> james in the hiz-ouse [19:01] <Aislinn> Hi! [19:02] <Jrg1990> its a miracle that James is in the hizouse. its midnight here, but my dad hasnt shut off the router, and im not tired, so im gonna stay for a while smile [19:02] <Aislinn> woot! [19:02] <DorisTLC> Hi everyone [19:02] <Padfoot4Eva> hi doris [19:03] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [19:03] *** LJ has joined #lounge [19:03] <Aislinn> hello, everyone! [19:03] <Padfoot4Eva> hi laurie! [19:03] <Padfoot4Eva> and miss danielle [19:03] <miss_danielle> hello smile [19:03] <Jrg1990> hey D, Hey Laurie, hey danielle. [19:03] <DorisTLC> school starts here tomorrow - so I may be asleep before it's over james - I'm tired [19:03] <LJ> Hello! [19:03] *** stewiegryf has joined #lounge [19:04] <Padfoot4Eva> school?! [19:04] <Aislinn> wow - school starts early in your part of the country, doris [19:04] <DorisTLC> LOL - yeah we start early here to avoid the heat [19:04] <Aislinn> it doesn't start until after Labor day here [19:04] <DorisTLC> we get out really early too [19:04] <Padfoot4Eva> makes sense then [19:04] <Aislinn> but isn't it hot now? [19:04] <stewiegryf> grade schools have already started in my part of the country too....out in california [19:04] <DorisTLC> we also have two weeks to make up hurricanes if we need it [19:04] <Aislinn> we have that much time, but for snow storms biggrin [19:05] <DorisTLC> It was 100ish today - but the humidity is horrible - and the air quality is low [19:05] <Jrg1990> *is glad hes not in a hurricane country* [19:05] <miss_danielle> *is also glad of that fact* [19:05] <Padfoot4Eva> same here...im only in snow land [19:05] <Aislinn> ugh - sounds awful [19:05] <DorisTLC> ya get used to it - in New York everyone was sweaty - never bothered me [19:05] <Aislinn> do you have air conditioning in the schools? [19:06] *** Twilight66 has joined #lounge [19:06] <DorisTLC> We can't have school without AC down here [19:06] <Aislinn> yes, it was disgustingly hot in NY for the readings [19:06] <Padfoot4Eva> i almost died walking around nyc...that's some immunity you;ve got there [19:06] <Aislinn> we don't have it up here, so if it gets hot, the kids just simmer in class [19:06] <Jrg1990> *wishes he had been able to get to NYC for the readings, but alas* [19:06] <Padfoot4Eva> poor james [19:06] <DorisTLC> Oh the reading rocked [19:06] <Aislinn> it sure did! [19:06] <Padfoot4Eva> yeah! [19:07] <Padfoot4Eva> too bad my phone took bad pictures [19:07] <DorisTLC> the best two weeks ever - spending a week with alot of leaky people - hen hearing jo read [19:07] <miss_danielle> *is jealous* [19:07] *** Narya has joined #lounge [19:07] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [19:07] <Aislinn> mine too padfoot [19:07] <Padfoot4Eva> *is jealous of the lumos bit* [19:07] *** aranelparmadil has joined #lounge [19:07] <DorisTLC> Oh - and beating the Mugglenet guys in trivia - but I'm not going to brag [19:07] <Aislinn> hi folks! [19:08] <Padfoot4Eva> brag away! [19:08] <Aislinn> that was wicked cool! [19:08] <stewiegryf> go ahead and brag doris [19:08] <stewiegryf> we loved it! [19:08] <miss_danielle> you hammered the mugglenet guys - bragging rights! [19:08] <fawkes28> hello all! [19:08] <DorisTLC> IT ROCKED! [19:08] <Padfoot4Eva> haha...wicked...you must be from my neck of the woods [19:08] <Aislinn> well, I'm in NY, but I love Maine biggrin [19:08] <Jrg1990> Woot for kicking muggle-butt [19:08] <DorisTLC> lol - there is a picture of them in the galleries when steve annouced that they lost - it is awesome [19:08] <Padfoot4Eva> ah-ha [19:09] <Padfoot4Eva> i like how emerson complained every chance he got...and still lost [19:09] <Jrg1990> I got so angry at emerson on that cinderella question....... it was just like..... come on..... we know you heard it, you just knew you got beat. [19:09] <Jrg1990> he couldnt handle it. [19:09] <Padfoot4Eva> naomi was alll over that one [19:09] <miss_danielle> yeah exactly - still lost [19:10] *** Twilight66 left #lounge [] [19:10] <Aislinn> Steve did an awesome job of moderating it all [19:10] <Jrg1990> yeah he did. [19:10] <miss_danielle> yeah he did [19:10] <Padfoot4Eva> he totally sounded like a game show host too [19:10] <Jrg1990> he was right down the middle. [19:10] <Aislinn> very fair [19:10] <Padfoot4Eva> very alex trebek-ian [19:10] *** Perenelle has joined #lounge [19:11] <Jrg1990> and it made me laugh that not even the king of HP trivia got the mobilicorpus one right though. Steve actually had to check his own answer lol. It shows he really is only human. [19:12] <DorisTLC> but Nick knew the answer [19:12] <Jrg1990> yeah. [19:12] <Padfoot4Eva> he was also smart to immeadiately suspect it was wrong [19:12] <DorisTLC> yeah - and the defamation of the book - he caught that one quickly too [19:13] *** Mullen has joined #lounge [19:13] <Perenelle> I didnt understand that answer - when did Dumbledore desecrate a book?? [19:14] <Padfoot4Eva> in the intro to fantastic beasts [19:14] <DorisTLC> the book was descrated before the Harry story starts - that is what was confusing [19:14] <DorisTLC> but it did happen first - [19:14] <Jrg1990> yeah. [19:14] <Padfoot4Eva> or the intro to quidditch [19:14] <Padfoot4Eva> i forget now [19:14] <Perenelle> ah interesting, thanks! [19:14] <Aislinn> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [19:14] <Jrg1990> i think it was quidditch. [19:15] <Aislinn> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [19:15] <Aislinn> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. [19:15] <Aislinn> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [19:15] *** gryffindelle has joined #lounge [19:16] <Aislinn> Over the years, JKR has been no stranger to the interview. From the time her books were discovered in 1997, to her most recent appearance at the Radio City Music Hall Reading entitled "Harry, Carrie, and Garp," Jo Rowling has taken great care of informing her fans about the Potterverse. [19:16] <Aislinn> Though many articles came out at HP's inception, probably one of the interviews most famous to the fandom is the "Memerson" one, which occurred in 2005. [19:16] <Aislinn> This year, we've been privy to interview on the UK show "The Richard and Judy Show" and two nights of questions in New York. Tonight we're going to discuss what we've learned from JKR's interviews in the past and present, JKR herself, and the questions we'd all wish she'd answer. [19:17] <Aislinn> Let's start with the Richard and Judy show - what did everyone think of that interview? Did you learn anything important from it? [19:17] <gryffindelle> wow [19:17] <gryffindelle> YES [19:18] <gryffindelle> sry [19:18] <Padfoot4Eva> sort of...i think the media blew it out of proportion [19:18] <Jrg1990> honestly, i didnt learn much from it at all. [19:18] *** magicmeg8 has joined #lounge [19:18] <miss_danielle> I don't think anything really important [19:18] <Jrg1990> other than the fact that the media is nuts, i didnt get too much [19:18] <gryffindelle> not learned, but clues [19:18] <stewiegryf> I learned that the ending of the series is not set in stone as much as I originally thought it was [19:18] <Aislinn> what about the bit where 2 people died that she thought would make it? [19:19] <Perenelle> my favourite part was the mention of her sister being there with her - sounds silly but I liked that knowledge [19:19] <Jrg1990> it is really stewie. the thing is the character who changed will be so minor it wont matter. [19:19] <Padfoot4Eva> that was the only new bit, aislin, that and that one gets a reprieve [19:19] <gryffindelle> thats a big thing though [19:19] <miss_danielle> yeh that was kinda important - but until the book comes out we dunno who. then it'll be why she decided to kill em [19:19] <LJ> not really James - she said that she's always had the last word as "scar" but recently it sounds as if even that is subject to change [19:19] <Jrg1990> itll just be like she mentioned someone in passing in the epilogue, who happened to die in a big fight, so she had to edit it. [19:20] <Perenelle> I was thinking a more important character than that [19:20] <stewiegryf> Me too [19:20] <Narya> I think the "scar" thing is very likely to change ... those books have evolved a great deal [19:20] <gryffindelle> is there going to be an epilogue? [19:20] <stewiegryf> I got the impression that it was someone of importance [19:20] *** SageSparks has joined #lounge [19:20] <fawkes28> yes me too [19:20] <gryffindelle> Neville was reprieved, I think [19:20] <Padfoot4Eva> i hope it doesn't change though...i like how that has been a part of potter lore for ever...the scar bit [19:20] <Aislinn> I don't think it is one of the really main ones, though, because I do think she has the main plot points pretty set [19:20] <Perenelle> she once said the last chapter is a bit like an epilogue [19:21] <stewiegryf> Yes, Jo has said the last chapter of book seven is going to be an epilogue [19:21] <magicmeg8> Yes, there will be an epilogue, gryffindelle. [19:21] <Aislinn> right perenelle [19:21] <gryffindelle> oh, ok [19:21] <miss_danielle> i agree Aislinn [19:21] *** NYBookworm has joined #lounge [19:21] <gryffindelle> thanx [19:21] <Jrg1990> i donno..... i think itll be someone medium-ish maximum. its not gonna be like Snape-Trio-Voldie. [19:21] <gryffindelle> yeah [19:21] <fawkes28> yes [19:21] <Aislinn> agreed JRG [19:21] <gryffindelle> I shill think neville was reprieved [19:21] <gryffindelle> *still [19:21] <Perenelle> I agree james - I was thinking Tonks or a character as 'big' as her [19:21] <NYBookworm> hi [19:21] <SageSparks> Why Neville? [19:21] <Aislinn> that would be great if its true gryff [19:21] <Padfoot4Eva> i agree perenelle [19:21] <LJ> I think it'll be a secondary main character (if that makes sense?) [19:22] <Perenelle> yeah perfect sense LJ [19:22] <Aislinn> I'm afraid its Tonks or Lupin or both, or even worse, one of the twins [19:22] <DorisTLC> I agree LJ [19:22] <miss_danielle> i just don't want her to kill Remus but i have the feeling she will [19:22] *** Whisperwing has joined #lounge [19:22] <Jrg1990> yeah maria, i totally agree. Someone like tonks or kingsley i think would be about right. [19:22] <gryffindelle> because so much has happened to him, and it wouldn't have too big an impact on the other characters whether he lives or dies [19:22] <Narya> I don't think Neville was in the frame to die, and I think Remus will make it [19:22] <LJ> someone who we have known throughout the books, but not someone we have known as well as the Trio or Snape [19:22] <DorisTLC> Or lupin - [19:22] <Aislinn> agree LJ [19:22] <miss_danielle> i *hope* Remus makes it [19:22] <gryffindelle> me 2 [19:22] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [19:22] <Whisperwing> No reason for it to be Seamus or Dean.... [19:22] <Jrg1990> Remus and Wormtail are both going to die. [19:22] <Jrg1990> (imo) [19:22] <Aislinn> I'd hate to think that all of the [good] Maurauders end up dying [19:22] <SageSparks> I think that the reprieve was Draco. I think he was set up to die, to be killed, but it would be impossible to write Book Six without kind of falling in love with him. [19:23] <Expelliarmas> good evening everyone [19:23] <fawkes28> in the interview didn't jkr say that her husband was only upset with one of the deaths? [19:23] <gryffindelle> good thought, sage [19:23] <magicmeg8> Hey expel smile [19:23] <Aislinn> hi expel! [19:23] <Whisperwing> Evening Exie [19:23] <gryffindelle> hi expel [19:23] <miss_danielle> Yeh I want one Maurauder left - and when i say one i mean Remus smile [19:23] <stewiegryf> 'ello [19:23] <Jrg1990> i thnk the one he was upset about is Hagrid. [19:23] <miss_danielle> i agree Jrg [19:23] <SageSparks> You can't write that final scene on the tower without feeling sorry for the poor kid. [19:23] <gryffindelle> its possible [19:23] <NYBookworm> I agree about Hagrid [19:23] <Whisperwing> Wasn't that when she was writing HBP though? [19:23] <aranelparmadil> Hi Expel! [19:23] <Jrg1990> coz i think hes going to die, and thats like a cute cuddly character to die. [19:23] <Perenelle> agreed James - everyone loves Hagrid [19:24] <Padfoot4Eva> i think hagrid is the reprieved character...she was going to kill him and changed her mind [19:24] <Perenelle> even those that dont know the books well [19:24] <NYBookworm> esp. given how she responded to the 5 guests question [19:24] <SageSparks> Hagrid, yes. He's been dwindling in importance. [19:24] <gryffindelle> can i connect this to another appearance? [19:24] <Narya> I don't think he's becoming less important - just the opposite [19:24] <SageSparks> How so, Narya? [19:24] <Expelliarmas> yes, but hagrid is very close to a parent or at least uncle, so it'd be awful for him to die [19:24] <Narya> Hagrid is in more danger now, IMO [19:25] <NYBookworm> I'm surprised he has lasted this long [19:25] <SageSparks> I think he's in more danger, but he's less important than ever. [19:25] <Perenelle> hagrid would be more than willing to sacrifice himself too [19:25] <Narya> Alchemy - the three stages - Black, White, Red - and JKR uses symbolism a lot [19:25] <fawkes28> i thought he would be the one to die in the 6th book [19:25] <SageSparks> Harry hardly talks to or about him anymore. [19:25] <gryffindelle> JKR implied at radio city music hall that she could only invite people to dinner who make it through the series, but realized that and then said Dumbledore and Hagrid [19:25] <Padfoot4Eva> thats why i think he'll survive...people have been saying hagrids a gonner since book 4 [19:25] <miss_danielle> I'm not surprised hes lasted this long, in fact for me hes one of those people i think will always be aroung. So i think hes a goner [19:25] <Narya> Hagrid is so important - he carried DD's body [19:25] <gryffindelle> I think one of them will make it, obviously hagrid [19:25] <fawkes28> but harry doesnt need him as much now when harry first came he needed hagrid a lot more, sagesparks [19:26] <SageSparks> Exactly. That makes him a lot more expendible anymore. [19:26] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:26] <Expelliarmas> hagrid is a source of info to the other magical creatures-centaurs, giants, not just harry [19:26] <Jrg1990> yeah Narya. I think that idea of alchemy is a great clue to hagrids death, although, it could be that black leaves, then white leaves, and it rests on red, so harry could finally fall on harry, and he survives, or something. [19:26] <Jrg1990> fall on hagrid* [19:26] <Narya> It's an interesting one .... first Sirius, then DD, now possibly Hagrid too [19:26] <Aislinn> he has lived through some pretty big attacks, like at the end of HBP [19:26] <Padfoot4Eva> i dont quite get that [19:27] <Whisperwing> If red, then Weasleys are redheaded.... [19:27] <Narya> That's true [19:27] <aranelparmadil> What's going to happen to Percy? [19:27] <Whisperwing> And gryffinsors all [19:27] <Aislinn> there's plenty of red around for the red stage of the alchemy theory [19:27] <Narya> But I still think Hagrid is in more danger [19:27] <Whisperwing> gryffindors [19:27] <magicmeg8> In the R&J interview, JKR expressed how much she loved the character of Harry -- believing him to have a difficult part in life. Do you think she'll make his life better, at the end? [19:27] <Expelliarmas> that git should die! Percy, that is [19:27] <NYBookworm> I know my brother is hoping Percy dies [19:27] <Aislinn> ooh, really expel? [19:28] <miss_danielle> i hope he does too [19:28] <Narya> I hope he survives [19:28] <gryffindelle> yes [19:28] <SageSparks> I think that Percy will just stand as a representation of dumb jerks in high places. [19:28] <aranelparmadil> Percy is prime for becoming a death eater [19:28] <NYBookworm> I tend to agree [19:28] <Whisperwing> I think he has an Ebeneezer Scrooge awakening coming to him. [19:28] <Narya> Percy is not an evil person - just very misguided [19:28] *** stewiegryf left #lounge [] [19:28] <Padfoot4Eva> agree narya [19:28] <miss_danielle> agreed Narya - but i still dislike him [19:28] <Aislinn> I think he's more at risk to following in his idol, Crouch Sr's, footsteps [19:28] <Narya> And very stubborn, whichh makes him vulnerable [19:28] <Jrg1990> i dont think he can ever be happy if he survives, not after all hes seen, so i actually hope Jo kills Harry at the end of the series. It seems almost like mercy if he dies. [19:28] <aranelparmadil> Percy is misguided and separated from his family. We know he is ambitious too. [19:28] <Perenelle> Percy will come around I think [19:28] <gryffindelle> yeah, but I almost want him to be redeemed [19:28] <Expelliarmas> i think Percy like umbridge are power hungry and would go with whomever is in power [19:29] <SageSparks> He's annoying and cold, but he isn't stupid or evil. He's what happens when a *good* wizard/person falls in love with power. [19:29] <SageSparks> We all know what happens when a bad one does. [19:29] <Perenelle> He'll learn his lesson I'm sure [19:29] <Narya> I think Percy is desperate to come home, but doesn't know how to [19:29] <Perenelle> looks at his reaction when Ron nearly drowned - he cant help loving his family [19:29] <Expelliarmas> percy wants to be right, somehow [19:29] <aranelparmadil> That makes him vulnerable [19:29] <gryffindelle> I think he will redeem himself [19:29] <Hedwigger7> Hi all. Responding to mm, I think Harry will suffer in Book 7 but ultimately live to have whatever goodness life offers. Wow Jrg...depressing. [19:29] <miss_danielle> i hope he doesn't come round. Shows that people from good families dont always turn out good people [19:30] <Expelliarmas> ala barty, jr [19:30] <gryffindelle> I think harry's life has improved [19:30] <SageSparks> Right. I think it would be weak if he "came around." [19:30] <NYBookworm> I think too many need redemption and they can't all do so w/o being implausible [19:30] <magicmeg8> I agree, Hed. I hope that he has a better life at the end. [19:30] <miss_danielle> agreed Sage [19:30] <Narya> But he is essentially a good person, just very stubborn ... he's not a Weasley for nothing [19:30] <Whisperwing> On to the topic broached, whether Jo will make Harry's life easier in the end? [19:30] <aranelparmadil> Can you imagine the screams across the world if JKR killed Harry off? [19:30] <Narya> I think she will [19:30] <Padfoot4Eva> harry has suffered many tragedies...but not to the point where death would be merciful [19:30] <miss_danielle> I think it will be a little easier [19:30] <Hedwigger7> Good point gryff, he has freidns and people who love him now. [19:30] <Hedwigger7> friends* [19:30] <SageSparks> I think she will. Otherwise, we'll all be holding our collective breath forever. [19:30] <SageSparks> And so will she. [19:30] <miss_danielle> lol how many friends will he have left after the bloodbath [19:30] <magicmeg8> I agree with that Padfoot -- and I hope she doesn't kill him off. [19:30] <SageSparks> I think she wants peace, too. [19:30] <Aislinn> I don't see JKR having Harry be sad for the rest of his life - I think he is more resilient than that [19:30] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:31] <Whisperwing> I found myself thinking today that I would wait and see the day the book came out and if the spoiler fiends announce that Harry does die, I just wouldn't buy the last book... [19:31] <gryffindelle> I doubt she will kill harry: she said whe doesn't want hate mail, and what would happen if she killed off harry? [19:31] <Jrg1990> aranel, she wont care about what people think. its her story, and shes always said shes telling it for her. The fact that people would be so upset if he died isnt her problem. [19:31] <Aislinn> I can't believe that she will kill Harry [19:31] <Narya> I'll read the book whatever happens, but I don't think she'll kill Harry off in the end .. [19:32] <Hedwigger7> I can't either Ais (hi!); what would be the point/purpose? [19:32] <Padfoot4Eva> i think she would certainly care what people think, but not to the point where she would change the book [19:32] <SageSparks> I think that whatever she does, it will be handled very diplomatically. She isn't the type of writer who makes things feel unfair or untimely. [19:32] <Whisperwing> Oh I'll read it, I just won't pay for it if he dies. [19:32] <aranelparmadil> True, JRG but I still don't think she'll do it. [19:32] <gryffindelle> thats my biggest reason why, I also just really don't want him to die [19:32] <fawkes28> plus we havent read it yet however she ends it, it will be for the best - it is her book [19:32] <miss_danielle> exactly [19:32] <miss_danielle> as long as she tells the "right story" I'm happy [19:32] <Perenelle> but why does she hint in every interview that she will? [19:32] <magicmeg8> We learned in the R&J interview that JKR does not want others to take over her characters after her death. Do you think this make an impact on her final decisions? Which ones? Why or why not? [19:32] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [19:32] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [19:32] <Hedwigger7> This may have been mentioned already, but Pad, if she already killed two people not intended, why couldn't she change her plot now? [19:32] <Perenelle> she has always suggested that he might die [19:32] <gryffindelle> No [19:32] <SageSparks> No. [19:32] <Mullen> I think he will die, but maybe just at the end of a life after voldy is vanquished [19:33] <Padfoot4Eva> i meant she wouldnt change it based on other people...she can change it all she wants for herself and her story [19:33] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [19:33] <NYBookworm> She has t keep that doubt in there otherwise everyone would know what happens [19:33] <Aislinn> I think she is afraid that people would "hijack" Harry, but I don't think she would kill him off for that reason [19:33] <Padfoot4Eva> sorry if unclear [19:33] <Expelliarmas> after her death, there would be very little to prevent folks from taking over her characters [19:33] <magicmeg8> So, pressure from the fans won't change anything? [19:33] <Narya> I think JKR will write book seven in such a way that there won't be any loose ends to tie up [19:33] <Whisperwing> I think she'd be being dishonest to the story and the characters if she changed it just to 'spite' people who might dare to use her characters in works of their own. [19:33] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:33] <SageSparks> There would be 70 years preventing it. [19:33] <harryfreak359> hey all! [19:33] <Aislinn> she is not about spite [19:34] <Padfoot4Eva> she has such a following i don't think people would buy a redone harry [19:34] <SageSparks> That's law. Life + 70. At least in the United States. [19:34] <Hedwigger7> Narya, expand? [19:34] <NYBookworm> I think she will write whatever she had planned to write and the changes are minor [19:34] <fawkes28> if he does live and people write about him after her death, it will never be the same [19:34] <Aislinn> agreed fawkes [19:34] <harryfreak359> uh...what are we talking about? [19:34] <Narya> i.e. everyone's story will come to its logical conclusion, whatever that is [19:34] <gryffindelle> hi, harryfreak [19:34] <SageSparks> People can't pick up the character until 70 years after JKR's death. Seriously, I don't think it's much of an issue. [19:34] <SageSparks> And I think she knows it isn't much of an issue. [19:34] <Perenelle> I think it was a knew way for her to say what she always has [19:35] <Padfoot4Eva> i agree sage [19:35] <Hedwigger7> Good point Sage, copyright laws... [19:35] <Perenelle> *new sorry [19:35] <SageSparks> So she's not going to kill him just for copyright protection. [19:35] <Expelliarmas> sorry, but I'm not into characters written by anyone other than the original author, it just isn't the same [19:35] <Narya> People can write what they want in fanfic, but essentially there is only one story - and it's JKR's [19:35] <fawkes28> yes [19:35] <aranelparmadil> No fanfic for you then, expel! [19:35] <Jrg1990> i donno sparks, if HP came up id take it. I mean think of James Bond. Youve got all the new ones of those coming now the copyrights done, so HP is just as possible to continue if shes alive. [19:35] <Whisperwing> Like that atrocious sequel to Gone With The Wind? [19:35] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [19:35] <Expelliarmas> not at all [19:35] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [19:36] <Padfoot4Eva> technically bond is owned by whatever studios first put it out [19:36] <aranelparmadil> There are some terrible Jane Austen sequels too. [19:36] <Narya> Once book seven is written, it's closure for JKR and the fans can let Harry & Co go [19:36] <Padfoot4Eva> they make the movies for $$$$$ [19:36] <Aislinn> I sometimes get the impression that she is repeatedly mentioning the possibility of Harry's death more to leave the possibility open in our minds than because it is likely to happen [19:36] <Narya> me too Aislinn [19:36] <aranelparmadil> I agree Aislinn [19:36] <gryffindelle> i agree [19:36] <Perenelle> I think so too [19:36] <SageSparks> I agree wholeheartedly, Aislinn. [19:36] <Expelliarmas> fans won't let harry go anymore than they let LOTR go [19:36] <magicmeg8> I mean, John pointed out in a PC that the magic of the books makes it easier to work with [19:36] <SageSparks> I think it's the only reason. [19:36] <LJ> I agree [19:36] <miss_danielle> i agree Aislinn [19:37] <SageSparks> Hehe.. we all agree! [19:37] <harryfreak359> yeah! [19:37] <Jrg1990> this is true Expel. people will never let go, but they can still have closure. theres a difference. [19:37] <Perenelle> She has done it from the beginning [19:37] <magicmeg8> Hmm. I'm not sure about that Ann -- I think it's just a frequently asked question, personally. [19:37] <Whisperwing> I do think it's very possible he'll have another near-death experience like when the Dementors were coming for him and Sirius in CoS. [19:37] <Narya> I think that's a given in this book [19:37] <Hedwigger7> Well, I don't know if i agree, Aislinn, is she just tossing red herrings? Doing her obfuscation thing? [19:37] <Expelliarmas> harry and near death experiences--what would one of his books be without it? [19:37] <Aislinn> methinks she doth protest too much biggrin [19:37] <miss_danielle> lol [19:37] *** Poet has joined #lounge [19:38] <harryfreak359> lol [19:38] <Aislinn> and I can't see this whole series ending up as a tragedy [19:38] <magicmeg8> hey poet! [19:38] <Hedwigger7> Yea... [19:38] <LJ> Hey Poet [19:38] <miss_danielle> me neither [19:38] <Padfoot4Eva> i agree [19:38] <Aislinn> Hi Poet! [19:38] <gryffindelle> hi poet [19:38] <Poet> That even Snape is redeemable ;) [19:38] <harryfreak359> actually i could [19:38] <Narya> It's not the message she wants to send out to her readership [19:38] <Poet> hi [19:38] <aranelparmadil> Thanks for the chat folks. It's nearly 1am here and I'm really tired. Bye! [19:38] <Perenelle> It wouldnt be a tragedy id he died to save others [19:38] <Padfoot4Eva> bye [19:38] <harryfreak359> after OotP and HBP I am prepared for everything [19:38] <Aislinn> bye aranel [19:38] <magicmeg8> night aranel! [19:38] <Expelliarmas> see you later aranel [19:38] <Hedwigger7> bye [19:38] <Whisperwing> Night aranel [19:38] <miss_danielle> exactly [19:38] <harryfreak359> bye [19:38] <Jrg1990> Snape isnt redeemable.... greasy slimy death eater (like me tongue) [19:38] <SageSparks> It *would* be a tragedy. [19:38] *** aranelparmadil has quit [Bye] [19:38] <magicmeg8> JKR also mentioned in the R&J interview that she has come across times where she's become stuck due to the decisions she's made in previous books, though not on any major plot points. Were you surprised at this? [19:39] <Expelliarmas> nope [19:39] <miss_danielle> Yeh he is - but he is greasy i admit lol [19:39] <gryffindelle> no [19:39] <SageSparks> No. She fouls up all the time! [19:39] <Expelliarmas> how so? [19:39] <Perenelle> no that was fun to learn - to imagine her writing [19:39] <Padfoot4Eva> i wasnt...that happend when you write something as complex as this story [19:39] <harryfreak359> no I wasn't [19:39] <Poet> That happens to every author I imagine. [19:39] <Hedwigger7> No, it seems like a writerly thing... [19:39] <Whisperwing> Not at all, I've written a bit myself and found myself having to backtrack. Thankfully I've not tried to publish so I'm not yet committed to any decision I've made so far. [19:39] <SageSparks> Can portraits hold meaningful conversations? Yes... er, no. How many students go to Hogwarts? [19:39] <Poet> Her world is very complex. [19:39] <magicmeg8> She said that she always gets by any hangups, but they do occur. [19:39] <miss_danielle> i wasnt surprised. The sheer volume of stuff she has in these books its not surprising [19:39] <Narya> Not surprised, no, because the books evolve constantly and the nuances of the story make it impossible to get every last detail perfect [19:40] <Poet> She had to make up rules to what magic could and couldn't do, so I'm sure she finds herself in corners at times. [19:40] <Jrg1990> i dont really think im surprised, coz with soooooooo many different minor plots, its almost impossible that she wouldnt get caught on some of them. [19:40] <SageSparks> Heck, there's still a girl missing from Harry's year in Gryffindor! [19:40] <fawkes28> she has a lot of characters to keep track of and knows how we catch every detail i wouldnt want to be her [19:40] <Perenelle> At least we know those things aren't important! She doesnt mess up on the important stuff [19:40] <Poet> Yes indeed Danielle. [19:40] <Padfoot4Eva> haha sage [19:40] <Poet> With 7 books its hard to not get caught at times. [19:40] <Hedwigger7> But she has been working on this for, how many? fifteen years? [19:40] <Expelliarmas> there's always the lexicon for clarity [19:40] <Aislinn> yes, hed [19:41] <gryffindelle> lol [19:41] <Hedwigger7> Lol! [19:41] <miss_danielle> wooo for the lexicon [19:41] <miss_danielle> smile [19:41] <SageSparks> I'm wondering in particular, for a variety of reasons, whether the wandless magic goof (if it was one) when Harry is reaching for his wand and says "Lumos," was actually a mistake. [19:41] <Expelliarmas> and she's used it! [19:41] <fawkes28> yes, steve should help her edit [19:41] <harryfreak359> lol [19:41] <Padfoot4Eva> like how marcus flint ended up back a year [19:41] <Whisperwing> I've read Stephen King's "On Writing," a really excellent book, and he's also found stories getting away from him, going places he hadn't intended and had to figure out how to fix things. You know he had to rework a lot in the Dark Tower series. [19:41] <magicmeg8> Sage, I think those sorts of mistakes are editorially ones. [19:41] <Hedwigger7> She says she has charts and lists of families, their houses at Hogwarts etc., so she probably does keep great track of everythin [19:41] <Aislinn> he sounds like he has a very different writing style than JKR though, whisper [19:41] <Padfoot4Eva> dark tower i feel is an anomaly since the first one he did in the 80s [19:41] <Hedwigger7> sorry -- g ...to help her out of corners... [19:42] <Narya> I'd love to see those lists ... [19:42] <Aislinn> she seems much more detail oriented [19:42] <SageSparks> How come, Meg? [19:42] *** Mullen left #lounge [] [19:42] <Poet> Steve's remarks at Lumos were very interesting. He just accepts that Jo has inconsistencies. It's HER world smile [19:42] <Hedwigger7> Me too Narya! All her notes! [19:42] <magicmeg8> Well, like, if there's a word problem, they usually catch it in editing, i think [19:42] <harryfreak359> yeah, it would be hard not to make mistakes [19:42] <magicmeg8> right? [19:42] <Whisperwing> Yeah, he has a habit of a minimum of six pages every day. I think it's to keep the monsters from coming for him, but that could just be fanciful thinking. [19:42] <fawkes28> and it's a huge world [19:42] <gryffindelle> dinnis creevy moved forward a year [19:43] <SageSparks> Yes, of course... but he is *reaching* for his wand and says "Lumos" and the wand lights. [19:43] <SageSparks> He isn't holding the wand. [19:43] <SageSparks> That's the issues. [19:43] <magicmeg8> ohhhhh [19:43] <SageSparks> Er, issue, rather. [19:43] <magicmeg8> i see. [19:43] <SageSparks> Sorry, I wasn't being clear :P [19:43] <gryffindelle> *dennis [19:43] <magicmeg8> lol or i'm illiterate biggrin [19:43] <Expelliarmas> maybe dennis creevy is just really gifted [19:43] <Padfoot4Eva> i guess then we are to assume that little spells like that are possible [19:43] <magicmeg8> OK, let's move onto interviews as a whole: what do you look for most in reading a JKR interview -- hints to the next book, backstory, or a look at Jo Rowling? [19:43] <SageSparks> Marcus and Dennis should hang out. [19:44] <miss_danielle> backstory [19:44] <Perenelle> at look at Jom definitely [19:44] <Expelliarmas> lol [19:44] <gryffindelle> no, he's in hogsmede in his second year for the 1st DA meeting [19:44] <Jrg1990> Backstory [19:44] <Aislinn> all 3, megs! [19:44] <Padfoot4Eva> next book [19:44] <Perenelle> *Jo [19:44] <Narya> Backstory [19:44] <Hedwigger7> Snape and next book... [19:44] <NYBookworm> hints [19:44] <Jrg1990> well, all 3, but Backstorys my big one. [19:44] <harryfreak359> hints to the next book, of course! [19:44] <Expelliarmas> backstory [19:44] <gryffindelle> hints [19:44] <NYBookworm> as long as they're not bad spoilers [19:44] <Hedwigger7> Oh I love spoilers! ;) [19:44] <SageSparks> I like backstory. I'm obsessed with backstory. [19:44] <Expelliarmas> i'd hate to have jo on the witness stand [19:44] <harryfreak359> yeah, NYBookworm, I don't like spoilers [19:44] <Padfoot4Eva> oh she would never spoil her books [19:44] <gryffindelle> I agree, NY [19:44] <Hedwigger7> Me too Sage... (those notes!) [19:44] *** PhoenixTears84 has joined #lounge [19:44] <Perenelle> I don't think she give away big spoilers [19:44] <Narya> I love the backstory ... it makes the books [19:45] <Aislinn> I love when we get a window into how she views her world of Potterverse, and the world as a whole [19:45] <Padfoot4Eva> wb may spoil the movies... [19:45] <Jrg1990> coz i love finding out all this stuff that JKR has in reserve for her story, which helps it along, but never makes it into the book, It gives more insight into her world. [19:45] <Poet> I look for hint to next books. Backstory actually does a lot to help me figure out next books, so either one is helpful. [19:45] <gryffindelle> also backstory, sometimes [19:45] <miss_danielle> i agree Jrg [19:45] <Poet> Hi Jeff! [19:45] <SageSparks> I would pay an unholy sum of money for a day with her notebooks. [19:45] <Aislinn> me too, sage! [19:45] *** stewiegryf has joined #lounge [19:45] <Padfoot4Eva> ditto [19:45] <gryffindelle> same [19:45] <Jrg1990> oh definitely sage. [19:45] <Expelliarmas> you'd have to find some other way sage, jo already has an unoly sum of money [19:45] <Hedwigger7> I enjoy wtaching/reading her struggling to answer something and yet not answer it and then pouring over it for days after trying to decipher it. [19:45] <PhoenixTears84> Hello All [19:45] <Expelliarmas> *unholy [19:46] <Padfoot4Eva> hi phoenix [19:46] <Aislinn> I really hope that she does another intreview like the memerson one after the 7th book is out, so she can really discuss things in detail [19:46] <Jrg1990> hi pheonix. [19:46] <SageSparks> I'll bake her some cookies? Make her a nice purse? [19:46] <harryfreak359> hi phoenix! [19:46] <Padfoot4Eva> i agree aislinn [19:46] <Poet> Of course I don't want to be spoiled. I dug a little too deep before Book 6 and wasn't surprised by a lot of things. [19:46] <SageSparks> Anyway, yeah. I agree, Aislinn. [19:46] <fawkes28> me too, aislinn [19:46] <Padfoot4Eva> only the real fans know what questions to ask [19:46] <Perenelle> Definitely Aislinn - that was easily the best interview [19:46] <gryffindelle> yeah ais [19:46] <harryfreak359> Yeah me too Aislinn [19:46] <PhoenixTears84> So what is the topic of conversation? [19:46] <gryffindelle> *aislinn [19:47] <Aislinn> jo and her interviews is the topic [19:47] *** Riddle2 has joined #lounge [19:47] <magicmeg8> So, would you avoid interviews in hopes of avoiding spoilers? [19:47] <Expelliarmas> nope [19:47] <Jrg1990> i cant wait to hear her do an interview post-book 7, as that will allow her to like speak freely after all this time. [19:47] <Whisperwing> Absolutely not. [19:47] <Poet> Bribe her with Leaky Cauldron shirts and Jane Austen books. smile [19:47] <gryffindelle> no [19:47] <Narya> No, I wouldn't [19:47] <fawkes28> nope [19:47] *** ErinRae has joined #lounge [19:47] <Padfoot4Eva> no [19:47] <miss_danielle> i wouldn't because I don't think there would be any real spoilers [19:47] <Whisperwing> I'm antsy to hear anything at all from the lady herself. [19:47] <gryffindelle> I just read what people say about them before reading the actual interview itself [19:47] <Perenelle> I couldn't *not* listen [19:47] <stewiegryf> She's not one to spoil things for her fans [19:47] <Whisperwing> The editors too. [19:47] <Narya> Anything which JKR says in an interview isn't a spoiler because it comes from her [19:47] <magicmeg8> I think I'm not disciplined enough to avoid her interviews! [19:47] <Whisperwing> Especially Hottt Cheryl. [19:47] <Poet> No. But having read all of the interviews I start to connect the dots.... [19:47] <SageSparks> I avoid fans in order to escape spoilers. smile [19:48] <magicmeg8> true, narya [19:48] <gryffindelle> so I know what I'm getting into [19:48] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [19:48] <Poet> By comparing the interviews you can come to some interesting conclusions. [19:48] *** ErinRae has quit [Bye] [19:48] <stewiegryf> I believe it's Hottttt Cheryl now, Whisperwing. smile [19:48] *** ErinRae has joined #lounge [19:48] <Hedwigger7> She better Ais. [19:48] <miss_danielle> I'd go mad trying to do that [19:48] <Hedwigger7> You think she could answer it all in one interview? [19:48] *** LJ has joined #lounge [19:48] <magicmeg8> Have you learned anything about writing or been inspired to write due to a JKR interview? Which one and why? [19:48] <Poet> Of course interviews generally do not include inflections that are important. [19:48] <Aislinn> no , hed, it would have to be a series of interviews [19:48] <Aislinn> :D [19:48] <Poet> The inflections during her answer to the Petunia question for instance were very interesting. [19:49] <ErinRae> she does like to drop little clues [19:49] <Expelliarmas> no, it would take 400 years for me to learn to write well and it would still be bad [19:49] <ErinRae> more hits on where things might be heading [19:49] <Poet> Make that hot with 7 t's. [19:49] <gryffindelle> not really [19:49] <PhoenixTears84> I think JK is controlled enough to feed us what information she see's fit as us needing to know. I think she loves it when she is asked a question and can't answer it. I really think she enjoys seeing the fans squirm [19:49] <PhoenixTears84> She likes to see the theories we come up with [19:49] <ErinRae> I'm sure she has a list of things its OK to say [19:49] <PhoenixTears84> see how close [19:49] <miss_danielle> agreed phoenix [19:50] <Aislinn> she has said she loves the theories [19:50] <Narya> I think she loves the theories [19:50] <PhoenixTears84> or how very far we come [19:50] <ErinRae> just so she doesn't let something slip [19:50] <Padfoot4Eva> in terms of beingi inspired...i think that its not about writing at all, but about working hard and passionately towards your goals [19:50] <Whisperwing> I learned that you can get far wtill writing longhand, which is a blessing to me because sitting at a typewriter or a computer keyboard for as long as it's going to take me to seriously get this one book that I've been working on for a good seventeen years now, is really going to mess with my injured back. [19:50] <fawkes28> it's fun to squirm though - it'll all be over before we know it [19:50] <PhoenixTears84> I don't think she would let anything slip [19:50] <miss_danielle> i love the theories. Imagine hundreds of theories about your own books? must be awesome [19:50] <Poet> Actually I was very inspired by what John Irving said. He knows the end of his stories first - writes the last line and sometimes the last chapter first. This reminded me of Jo and her completed Book 7 final chapter. [19:50] <Jrg1990> anyway..... i probably ought to be off. [19:50] <Whisperwing> And thankfully my daughter has agreed to act as my typist should I complete a manuscript. [19:50] <Jrg1990> night all [19:50] <PhoenixTears84> I mean she has had six books worth of not letting anything slip [19:50] *** Lexicon_Steve has joined #lounge [19:51] <Padfoot4Eva> night james [19:51] <Aislinn> night James! [19:51] <Whisperwing> Steve! [19:51] <Expelliarmas> night [19:51] <Jrg1990> hey/bye steve. [19:51] <Padfoot4Eva> the steve man [19:51] *** SeverineSnape has joined #lounge [19:51] <Lexicon_Steve> Hey [19:51] <Aislinn> hi steve! [19:51] <Narya> I think I'd probably do that ... write the last line and then work backwards [19:51] <PhoenixTears84> Hi Steve [19:51] *** Jrg1990 left #lounge [] [19:51] * stewiegryf bows to Steve [19:51] <SeverineSnape> Hi all! [19:51] <Narya> Hi Steve [19:51] <Hedwigger7> DO you think Jo will change her last chapter/line? [19:51] <SageSparks> No. [19:51] <Hedwigger7> Hey Sev! [19:51] <Poet> Hi Steve - *bows down before Steve* [19:51] <Expelliarmas> no [19:51] <Padfoot4Eva> no [19:51] <gryffindelle> hi steve [19:51] <PhoenixTears84> She already has [19:51] <Narya> In subtle ways, yes [19:51] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [19:51] <Whisperwing> Last question posed is if anything in Jo's interviews had given you insight into the process of writing. [19:51] <Padfoot4Eva> and if she does not plot wise...only continuity wise [19:51] <SageSparks> I don't think she'll change the gist of it. [19:51] <gryffindelle> no, hed [19:51] <Perenelle> she might do - yeah small details only [19:52] <Hedwigger7> How Phoenix? Killing two others? [19:52] <Narya> Yes, in terms of plot, characterisation, and empathy for her characters [19:52] <SeverineSnape> I don't think she'll change the big story, just some details. I think the last word is still 'scar' [19:52] <Poet> I liked the idea of her knowing the end first and then the discovery in figuring out how her characters got to that point. [19:52] <Aislinn> What question were you most excited to hear asked from either of the Readings at RCMH? Were you satisfied with the answer? [19:52] <Perenelle> I liked the Hermione one [19:52] <ErinRae> the extras on her site really give insight on how she plots a story [19:52] *** DorisTLC has quit [Bye] [19:52] <PhoenixTears84> She has known for over 10 years how this story was going to end, its just the getting there might have changed [19:52] <Padfoot4Eva> i didnt hear a great question to be honest [19:52] <SeverineSnape> Oooh I loved the answer to what hermione saw in the Mirror of Erised!! [19:52] <Poet> Yes, Jo has some revisions to make for the final chapter, but nothing extreme I'm sure. [19:53] <Padfoot4Eva> like the hermione one was interesting...but i totaly called it [19:53] <Hedwigger7> Ok Phoenix, makes sense, of course. [19:53] <Lexicon_Steve> I didn't either [19:53] <stewiegryf> I'm glad she's finally said DD is dead pretty much flat out. [19:53] <fawkes28> i liked her talking about the fandom [19:53] <NYBookworm> I almost died at that question [19:53] <Hedwigger7> Yes stewie [19:53] <SeverineSnape> The Hermions answer just showed how much Hermione has grown over the years [19:53] <magicmeg8> at the moment, I think that Hermione would be most likely to see the three of them alive and unscathed and Voldemort finished. But I think that Hermione would also see herself closely entwined… with… another… person. I think you can probably guess who. -- was her hermione answer. [19:53] <Poet> I thought "scar" was a joke for awhile, but she truly mentioned it in an interview. [19:53] <gryffindelle> not the best questions [19:53] <SeverineSnape> out of all the things she could see in the mirror, what she sees is love [19:53] <SageSparks> That one dude who had the theory about Snape's memory and the green potion just blew me away. [19:54] <SageSparks> I mean, it was nuts, but it was *awesome*. [19:54] <Padfoot4Eva> i wish i could have heard that one [19:54] <Poet> I was satisfied with the answers. Even when she couldn't answer outright she found something to share with us nonetheless. [19:54] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [19:54] <Perenelle> and how important Harry's quest is to her [19:54] <Aislinn> hey gin bot [19:54] <gryffindelle> hi ginny [19:54] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi everyone! [19:54] <PhoenixTears84> is there audio or video of this that I missed? [19:54] <Lexicon_Steve> Hi, Ginny [19:54] <miss_danielle> hi Ginny [19:54] <Narya> hi Ginny [19:54] <Padfoot4Eva> just transcript at the moment [19:54] <PhoenixTears84> or were you all at the press confrence [19:54] <PhoenixTears8http://www.leakylounge.com/style_images/1/folder_rte_images/bold.gif Bold4> oh ok [19:55] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hi Steve, Danielle, Narya, Aislinn [19:55] <ErinRae> the video is coming up I think? [19:55] <magicmeg8> The transcript is located here: http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/...yreading2a.html [19:55] <ErinRae> on MSN [19:55] <Narya> I wasn't at the conference ... I've only seen the transcripts [19:55] <fawkes28> i think tomorrow and friday [19:55] <Poet> Hi GB [19:55] <Aislinn> yes Erin [19:55] <NYBookworm> II was there the 2nd night [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi P!! [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I hope I didn't miss anyone [19:55] <Poet> There is video coming out on MSNBC? [19:55] <Padfoot4Eva> on msn yes [19:55] <stewiegryf> from leaky's main page: Scholastic has just announced that starting tomorrow, for only two days, MSN will stream "An Evening With Harry, Carrie and Garp" for free at video.msn.com. Starting Saturday, highlights will be available on demand, through the end of August. [19:56] <Poet> But the video will only be up for 3 days I think [19:56] <gryffindelle> MSN, thurs and fri only [19:56] <Poet> Only Melissa was at the press conference [19:56] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi Riddle - sorry off topic [19:56] <Padfoot4Eva> right...only press was allowed in [19:56] <magicmeg8> JKR definitively stated that Dumbledore is dead. Did this surprise anyone, or change their view of what will happen in the final book? [19:56] <Whisperwing> So the whole John Stewart "Raowling" was on a dare from Jo then? [19:56] <Riddle2> hahah G [19:57] <PhoenixTears84> no, I knew he was dead [19:57] <Riddle2> sorry [19:57] <Perenelle> Nope, no surprise [19:57] <Poet> oops.... video.msn.com [19:57] <Whisperwing> I never doubted that Dumbledore was really most sincerely dead. [19:57] <Expelliarmas> no surprise [19:57] <Hedwigger7> No surprise except that others were surprised... [19:57] <Narya> No surprise to me [19:57] <fawkes28> i glad she finalized it some people are still in doubt [19:57] <stewiegryf> Not surprised a bit [19:57] <miss_danielle> No it didn't. I never doubter the big man was dead [19:57] <PhoenixTears84> I just had one of those gut feelings, just the way it was written [19:57] <miss_danielle> doubted* [19:57] <gryffindelle> yes [19:57] <Expelliarmas> but the theories on DD being alive are remarkable in their depth [19:57] *** independentfc has joined #lounge [19:57] <Padfoot4Eva> surprise in the sense that she actually quashed a theory...she doesnt do that too often [19:57] <Aislinn> it certainly got a strong reaction at the reading [19:57] <magicmeg8> I, for one, was there -- and very surprised that she actually told us. [19:57] <Aislinn> agreed, padfoot [19:57] <Lexicon_Steve> I was glad she did [19:58] *** naski has joined #lounge [19:58] <gryffindelle> i was surprised, and sad [19:58] <NYBookworm> I just couldn't wait to get back on Leaky and read DD dead or alive thread after that [19:58] <miss_danielle> me too Steve. [19:58] <Aislinn> I thought she'd let the theories on that go for a while yet [19:58] <Lexicon_Steve> I wish she'd do that a bit more [19:58] <Narya> I was glad to see her putting those theories to rest [19:58] <Aislinn> why, Steve? [19:58] <Narya> She should [19:58] <Hedwigger7> the revelation certainly picked the Forum traffic up [19:58] <Padfoot4Eva> i agree steve because the ddind.com bugged me [19:58] <Expelliarmas> i like the theories, it gives folks something to chat about [19:58] <PhoenixTears84> ha ha ha [19:58] *** independentfc has quit [Bye] [19:58] <Lexicon_Steve> She's in a different mode now...she shouldn't be building up theories but helping us come to the end [19:58] <gryffindelle> i agree, expel [19:58] <Aislinn> we do have a while yet before the next book comes out - have to have something to talk about biggrin [19:58] <Poet> I knew 100% he was dead, but I was surprised the way she said we could now move past denial and on to next stage, though it's anger and she didn't want to see that. I was surprised she was so blunt, but also relieved that she was so merciful to be that blunt for us. [19:59] <Padfoot4Eva> interesting - but it always had me shaking my head...maybe that makes me a brat [19:59] <ErinRae> I agre Steve! [19:59] <Narya> I like them, but there are certain things which won't change in the series, and death is one of them [19:59] <Hedwigger7> Yes Steve [19:59] <Lexicon_Steve> and we all know she can't put EVERYTNING into book seven [19:59] <ErinRae> agree smile [19:59] <miss_danielle> i just think that more time could be spent by fans delving into the gaps shes left. Rather than forcing things that arent there [19:59] <Lexicon_Steve> look at the list on the Lexicon [19:59] <Perenelle> did she mean anger at her or at Snape? [19:59] <PhoenixTears84> True [19:59] <Lexicon_Steve> it would be the biggest book in history [19:59] <Padfoot4Eva> she said so herself steve [19:59] <Whisperwing> She did say she's finding she has many more loose ends that she doesn't think she's going to be able to tie off in 7 though.... [19:59] <Aislinn> I think her perenelle [19:59] <Lexicon_Steve> yes, I know she did [19:59] <ErinRae> I can imagine... so many plot threads [19:59] <naski> is jkr going to make a backstory book? [19:59] <Perenelle> Ah, thanks [20:00] <Aislinn> that's ok with me, steve - the bigger, the better! [20:00] <Lexicon_Steve> so this is one way to take care of a plot thread [20:00] <Padfoot4Eva> (oh right you were there duh) [20:00] <naski> u know, with all the backstories on characters [20:00] <ErinRae> Hogwarts a History ? [20:00] <Lexicon_Steve> yeah, except I have to catalog the thing [20:00] <ErinRae> lol [20:00] <Poet> Ah - 'it's time for answers, not for more questions' [20:00] <naski> sort of [20:00] <magicmeg8> There's been talk of an encyclopedia or sorts, naski [20:00] <naski> yeah [20:00] <naski> that's what I'm talking about [20:00] <Padfoot4Eva> which would be sokewl [20:00] <Expelliarmas> steve, you know you love it! [20:00] <naski> yep [20:00] <naski> I would read it [20:00] <gryffindelle> that would still be really interesting, backstory and stuff [20:00] <Lexicon_Steve> she has reserved rights to do the encyclopedia [20:00] <naski> yep [20:00] <gryffindelle> I would definetely read it [20:00] <Narya> Didn't she say she'd write an encyclopaedia type book for charity or something? [20:01] <Whisperwing> I can't believe Hogwarts A History is a single volume, unless it's a magical book that lets you access different periods along a time line. [20:01] <naski> everyone would love it [20:01] <Lexicon_Steve> she did, yes [20:01] <naski> it'd explain a lot [20:01] <magicmeg8> Yes, Narya. [20:01] <Poet> I don't see a backstory book, no. [20:01] <Narya> Good, I'll look forward to it [20:01] *** foenyx has joined #lounge [20:01] <gryffindelle> encyclopidia w/ backstory articles [20:01] <magicmeg8> smile [20:01] <Whisperwing> Okay, does anyone want to see the books turned into a graphic novel series? [20:01] <Aislinn> hi foenyx! [20:01] <Lexicon_Steve> but it's not for sure, she's just reserved the rights to do it [20:01] <Perenelle> She said bakcstory is where any loose ends would be [20:01] <magicmeg8> Let's go back a ways and talk about the Memerson interview - was there anything that you learned from that interview that changed your mind or helped you understand the books better? [20:01] <Padfoot4Eva> haha whisperwing [20:01] <gryffindelle> that would be awesome [20:01] * Whisperwing volunteers as artist.... [20:01] <foenyx> hi smile [20:02] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> You go W/W!! [20:02] <Padfoot4Eva> id have to go back and read it megs [20:02] <gryffindelle> i haven't read it in a while...don't remember [20:02] <Expelliarmas> the backstory is where i suspect there will be a lot of fan fic and danger of characters being taken over [20:02] <Padfoot4Eva> :) [20:02] <Poet> I see answers on her websites and such, but we'll always have more questions than she can address in one book. An encyclopedia - yes - that's cool. It's a little different than a backstory, but has some of the same elements. [20:02] <magicmeg8> The transcript is here, by the way : http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/...et-anelli-1.htm [20:02] <Padfoot4Eva> thanks [20:02] <Whisperwing> I did actually attempt a graphic novel illustration of the DA finding the room with all the clocks in it from ootP [20:02] *** naski has quit [Bye] [20:02] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> That's amazing W/W [20:03] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:03] <Perenelle> Learned a lot of small answers from the memerson interview - like peoples eye colour etc [20:03] <Poet> Good point about the articles Gryffindelle. [20:03] <Narya> I liked learning about DD and about Sirius from that interview [20:03] <ErinRae> how a pensieve worked [20:03] <stewiegryf> I'm interested in what she had to say and DD's family in that interview and how that will come to play in book seven [20:03] <ErinRae> that it was objective [20:03] <Aislinn> and the fact that the pensieves are an objective view, rather than just a memory [20:03] <miss_danielle> yeah [20:03] <ErinRae> exactly This post has been edited by Aislinn: Aug 9 2006, 08:40 PM |
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[20:04] <Narya> Yes, that was important
[20:04] <magicmeg8> Yeah, I liked knowing that Ron's patronus was a jack russel. [20:04] <Perenelle> definitely the hint about DD's family stewie [20:04] <Expelliarmas> liked that the interview was done by folks who actually read the books [20:04] <ErinRae> really important seeing as HBP takes place in side the pensive [20:04] <Padfoot4Eva> poor ron...his patronus yips at dementors [20:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> lol [20:04] <stewiegryf> or runs circles around them, padfoot [20:04] <stewiegryf> jack russels are sooooooooo hyper [20:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> gets its belly rubbed by a dementor [20:05] <ErinRae> I find a lot of interviews (not the TLC/MN) tend to ask the same questions [20:05] <foenyx> lol [20:05] <magicmeg8> I agree, erin. [20:05] <ErinRae> and she interviews so rearely that it seems like a wase [20:05] <Padfoot4Eva> which is the issue with the general media getting to do the, [20:05] *** SageSparks has quit [Bye] [20:05] <Poet> Well Jo answered a question about the four founders, correct? It helped me decide to dig into alchemy and look at the Arthurian myths. Doing so has enriched my reading of the series. [20:05] <stewiegryf> yeah, I find that true too, erin. That's because those aren't conducted by hardcore fans like melissa and emerson...just members of the press [20:06] <magicmeg8> Yes, I believe she did. It sort of helped to put us in the right direction, poet [20:06] <Narya> I like how alchemy and myth have underpinned the series - the books are richer for the symbolism in them [20:06] <Whisperwing> Actually, those Jack Russells can be pretty wicked, my mom's Jack is a hellion any time my brothers come into or leave the house. No yipping, really vicious barking is what she does and we're afraid if we don't get her trained out of it, she may even bite one of them. [20:06] <Aislinn> I agree - they delved more into what all of us as fans are interested in [20:06] <fawkes28> i hope jo lets them do another one after book 7 [20:06] <ErinRae> meg I agree! [20:06] <magicmeg8> The Memerson interview was so great in theat way, stewie. [20:06] <magicmeg8> smile [20:06] <magicmeg8> In the Memerson interview, JKR described Dumdledore as lonely -- what did you think of this idea? [20:06] <gryffindelle> i agree, fawkes [20:06] <Narya> I thought it was quite apt for DD [20:07] <ErinRae> he has no equal [20:07] <Narya> Very intelligent, yet lonely because of what he knows [20:07] <Expelliarmas> dd as lonely as in lonely at the top and no real equal or confidante or by choice? [20:07] <gryffindelle> I thought that it was easily imaginable [20:07] <NYBookworm> he has no one who can bve a peer [20:07] <gryffindelle> I agree erin [20:07] <Whisperwing> It's no surprise to me, people of great intellect and accomplishment are sure to be lonely, they have very little in the way of equals. [20:07] <Padfoot4Eva> i thought it made sense....especially with all the knowledge he had [20:07] <Narya> A bit of both, Expel [20:07] <ErinRae> It reminds me of the older you get the more friends and family dissapear [20:07] <SeverineSnape> I wonder if he actually feels lonely... I would hate to think that he does [20:07] <stewiegryf> I saw what she meant by that. Re-reading the seires, especially OotP, you really get that impression of DD is kind of lonely. [20:07] <Aislinn> that's true erin [20:08] <Narya> By choice, because he headed the Order; but no real confidante till Harry came along, and even then, he didn't tell Harry everything [20:08] <Aislinn> he is 150, and has probably lost a lot of people he has cared about [20:08] <Whisperwing> I'm sure he must. That complaint about never getting socks, always getting books, shows that he felt noone cared for him in a familial sense, that all they thought about was whata great mind he was. [20:08] <magicmeg8> I also thought it made sense, it definitely worked with the vibe of humanity we saw in dumbledore in the fifth book. [20:08] *** Riddle2 has quit [Bye] [20:08] <magicmeg8> Good point, Whisper. [20:08] <fawkes28> i think harry made DD feel less lonely [20:08] <Narya> I think he knew people cared for him, but felt a little bit overawed by his intellect [20:09] <miss_danielle> I feel a big theme in the book is lonliness [20:09] <Expelliarmas> w/w i thought the socks comment showed people were a bit in awe of him [20:09] <Aislinn> I think he was a person who was quite comfortable with himself, so I don't see him as really lonely [20:09] <Expelliarmas> could DD have preferred his solitude? [20:09] <SeverineSnape> Yes, i agree with Aislinn. I think he was lonely in his wisdom, always having to be the one to make the decisions [20:09] <Expelliarmas> i sometimes do [20:10] <Whisperwing> I don't think so [20:10] <SeverineSnape> but I don't think that he felt very lonely on a personal level [20:10] <Poet> From what we learned of Dumbledore we are able to understand that as a mentor to Harry he has no equal. We truly understand now that Harry stands on his own pretty much. There are no more adults that he needs to rely on- or that can take DD's place. [20:10] <fawkes28> i would love to know what the rest of his life was like [20:10] <Padfoot4Eva> i think there is a difference between being alone and being lonely [20:10] <Aislinn> I think he had a companion in Fawkes, and was cordial with people, but I do think he liked his solitude also [20:10] <SeverineSnape> yes i think he liked his solitude [20:10] <miss_danielle> i think he enjoys his solitude but experiences lonliness [20:10] <Padfoot4Eva> he may enjoy solitude, but is lonely in the sense that no one knows what he does about say voldie [20:10] <fawkes28> i could read a whole book on his back story [20:10] <SeverineSnape> there is no reason why he shouldn't have married at some point. But I just don't think that fitted with his lifestyle [20:10] <Expelliarmas> it's not like he sought folks out, did he? [20:11] <Whisperwing> He enjoyed the feast times so immensely and I'm sure he'd have loved to felt like a grandfather with little ones gathering around at his knees to hear tales f his exciting youth, rather than ppottering on alone year after year. [20:11] <miss_danielle> In OotP when he had to keep his distance from Harry, I can imagine how lonely he must have felt [20:11] <Aislinn> I had the impression that her comment had more to do with the fact that he didn't really have anyone to bounce his ideas and theories off of, as he had no equal [20:11] <Narya> He was comfortable in his own skin, but probably wished from time to time that someone else was there to confide in [20:11] <Narya> I don't think DD ever had a true equal [20:11] <Expelliarmas> given time, though, harry would have eventually become his equal [20:11] *** Narya has quit [Bye] [20:11] <stewiegryf> I don't think DD ever married for the same reason Harry broke up with Ginny at the end of HBP [20:11] *** Narya has joined #lounge [20:11] <fawkes28> i could see him bounce ideas of nicholas flamel and conifde in him [20:11] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:12] <Aislinn> hi Ken! [20:12] <ErinRae> work time bye! smile [20:12] *** ErinRae has quit [Bye] [20:12] <Hedwigger7> Bye Erin! [20:12] <magicmeg8> It's interesting that Jo sort of sees herself in Dumbledore [20:12] <Expelliarmas> as being a bit detached? [20:12] <CarpeDiem> Hi all! [20:12] *** Perenelle left #lounge [] [20:12] <gryffindelle> but flamel is now dead [20:12] <Lexicon_Steve> or maybe knowing everything and explaining it little by littel ;) [20:13] *** Narya has quit [Bye] [20:13] <Aislinn> well, it sounds like her sister sees Jo in Dumbledore biggrin [20:13] <magicmeg8> Well he's too detached, he's too cold, it's like you,” she said!" [Laughter] By which she meant that where she would immediately rush in and I would maybe stand back a little bit and say, “Let's wait and see if he can work this out.” [20:13] <magicmeg8> yes, that was what her sister said. [20:13] <Aislinn> and she seemed to acknowledge that this was an aspect of her personality [20:13] <gryffindelle> hmm... [20:13] *** Narya has joined #lounge [20:13] <fawkes28> she must feel like dumbledore she really cant confide in too many people right now about her work [20:13] <Lexicon_Steve> Nice talking with you all...good night [20:14] <stewiegryf> night Steve! [20:14] *** miss_danielle has quit [Bye] [20:14] <Hedwigger7> Night! [20:14] <Expelliarmas> night, Steve [20:14] <magicmeg8> Night steve, thanks for joining us! [20:14] *** Lexicon_Steve left #lounge [] [20:14] <Aislinn> night Steve [20:14] <CarpeDiem> Good point Fawkes [20:14] <gryffindelle> bye steve [20:14] <Padfoot4Eva> bye steve [20:14] <Expelliarmas> I think there's a bit of Jo's personality in each character, well, maybe not Snape [20:14] *** Narya has quit [Bye] [20:14] *** PhoenixTears84 has quit [Bye] [20:15] *** miss_danielle has joined #lounge [20:15] *** martysmarty1 has joined #lounge [20:15] <martysmarty1> hi [20:15] <Aislinn> that's probably true expel [20:15] <Hedwigger7> Why not, Expel? He's good at healing and keeping secrets! [20:15] <Expelliarmas> but he has no access to shampoo [20:15] <fawkes28> lol [20:15] <Hedwigger7> lol [20:15] <Expelliarmas> she always seems well groomed [20:15] *** Whisperwing has quit [Bye] [20:15] <Padfoot4Eva> i think there must be...she created these people, and must have a inkling of the way they think [20:16] <fawkes28> oh, to be a fly on jo's wall! [20:16] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:16] <Expelliarmas> you'd get swatted [20:16] <fawkes28> lol [20:16] <magicmeg8> Let's move onto a different character, now - Jo told us, in the Memerson interview, that Voldemort's boggart would be death. Would you have thought that as well? [20:16] <gryffindelle> I guess [20:16] <NYBookworm> i wouldn't want to know before everyone else- becasue how could I not discuss [20:16] <Padfoot4Eva> haha [20:16] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:16] <miss_danielle> yes i would definitely think that [20:16] <fawkes28> true [20:17] *** Poet has quit [Bye] [20:17] <foenyx> he does seem to go to great lengths to avoid death [20:17] <Expelliarmas> yes [20:17] <Padfoot4Eva> it makes sense...7 horcruxes [20:17] <magicmeg8> i wouldn't have narrowed it down to that i think [20:17] *** Poet has joined #lounge [20:17] <stewiegryf> I would have thought of either that or him seeing Dumbledore [20:17] <Poet> What does death look like I wonder? [20:17] <Hedwigger7> Great chat guys but at work and must fly! Ciao! [20:17] <martysmarty1> I think he would see his horcruxes being destroyed [20:17] <foenyx> and he didn't seem to believe DD that there are fates worse than death [20:17] *** Whisperwing has joined #lounge [20:17] <gryffindelle> bye hed [20:17] <magicmeg8> well, jo had said, like, a corpse, poet [20:17] <Aislinn> he has made it clear that he sees death as the worst thing on earth [20:17] <miss_danielle> yeh that what i wanna know - brad pitt? [20:17] <Aislinn> bye hed! [20:17] *** Hedwigger7 left #lounge [] [20:17] <Whisperwing> stupid browser stopped responding. [20:17] <fawkes28> he should be fearing harry not death but he underestimates harry [20:18] <miss_danielle> i dont think he underestimates harry [20:18] <Whisperwing> Eeeee, Leaky Mug 12 Live in NYC is out! [20:18] <martysmarty1> also, he might see Harry, because he knows Harry Is the only one who can kill him [20:18] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [20:18] <miss_danielle> oooh exciting [20:18] <Whisperwing> This is VOldie's Dementor thingie? [20:18] <miss_danielle> smile [20:19] <Expelliarmas> does VM know harry is the only one who can kill him, did he hear the whole prophecy? [20:19] <Padfoot4Eva> boggart [20:19] <miss_danielle> Boggart [20:19] <Whisperwing> Being inside of a coffin [20:19] <Whisperwing> right [20:19] <Padfoot4Eva> he heard that part [20:19] <Aislinn> no, he didn't hear it all expel [20:20] <stewiegryf> he didn't hear the part about marking Harry as his equal or Harry having "a power the Dark Lord knows not" [20:20] *** LJ has joined #lounge [20:20] <Aislinn> he heard "the one with the power to vanquish" [20:20] <Expelliarmas> thanks, currently giving my students a lesson in "crucio" and can't get to my book [20:20] <Aislinn> One question I had about the Memerson interview was her reply to the question about what Jo hoped they would ask, and she said something about, just today, July 16th, I hoped you'd ask about RAB. What do people think she meant by that? [20:21] <foenyx> is it clear that Harry has to be the one to kill LV? I mean- it can be assumed, but the prophecy really just says one must die, right? [20:21] <Expelliarmas> i think she wanted to play with our collective heads [20:21] <NYBookworm> I heard someone suggest that the date was his b-day [20:21] <Aislinn> the prophecy is very tricky foenyx - she has said that she phrased it very carefully, and prophecies often have hidden meanings [20:21] <Padfoot4Eva> oopss...got to go a little early [20:21] <miss_danielle> the prophecy is a bit ambiguous - i dunno that its clear [20:21] *** Poet has quit [Bye] [20:22] *** Poet has joined #lounge [20:22] <Aislinn> bye padfoot [20:22] <Whisperwing> About RAB -- I think she was hoping to hear ideas any of us might have about who it was, see how quickly we might have drawn conclusions [20:22] <Padfoot4Eva> byes [20:22] <stewiegryf> bye padfoot [20:22] <miss_danielle> bye padfoot [20:22] <Poet> Well it's like an inside joke and perhaps she wanted someone to share it with finally. [20:22] *** Padfoot4Eva has quit [Bye] [20:22] <magicmeg8> bye padfoot! [20:22] *** CarpeDiem left #lounge [] [20:22] <Aislinn> that's a thought poet [20:22] <magicmeg8> Yeah, I agree with you Whisper. [20:22] <Whisperwing> Oh, SLughorn calling Ron 'Rupert' was an inside joke. [20:22] <fawkes28> that was funny [20:22] <gryffindelle> maybe, poet [20:22] <Poet> I think she intended us to figure it out or guess it. [20:23] <miss_danielle> lol [20:23] <Poet> Too true Whisperwing - about Rupert. [20:23] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:23] <stewiegryf> I think she just wanted to make sure we knew that RAB was important and not just another Mark Evans [20:23] <Whisperwing> yea [20:24] <Poet> She knew Emerson and Melissa were pretty smart cookies. [20:24] <miss_danielle> definitely [20:24] <Poet> Ah - good idea stewiegryf [20:24] *** Whisperwing has quit [Bye] [20:24] <fawkes28> that's why she picked them to interview her [20:24] <magicmeg8> LoL, true stewie [20:24] <fawkes28> she knew she would get good questions [20:24] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:24] *** martysmarty1 has quit [Bye] [20:24] <magicmeg8> When talking about Snape in the Memerson interview, and again more recently at RCMH, Jo has used phrases like "clinging to some desperate hope", or "You lot don't give up, do you?" What, if anything, does this tell you about Snape? [20:25] <miss_danielle> shes trying to trick us [20:25] <Expelliarmas> that the snapeshifters are in for heartache! [20:25] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:25] <stewiegryf> she likes playing with our minds ;) [20:25] <miss_danielle> she does! [20:25] <Aislinn> she does seem to stewie smile [20:25] <Poet> It make me concerned, though she did say that anyone is redeemable except Voldie. [20:25] <magicmeg8> I agree stewiegryff -- i don't think i'd change my opinion based on her responses like that smile [20:26] <fawkes28> yeah she she mean clinging to some desparate hope that he is good? [20:26] <miss_danielle> i think it just frustrates her that everyon is like - hes good hes good [20:26] <gryffindelle> no clue [20:26] <Poet> And she sort of seemed to acknowledge that Rushdie was thinking on the right lines that Snape is good somehow. [20:26] <magicmeg8> yes [20:26] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, that is what she meant [20:26] <miss_danielle> i think maybe she thought shed have more in the evil camp [20:26] <stewiegryf> i've gotta run. have a good night everyone! [20:26] <gryffindelle> bye, stewie [20:26] <miss_danielle> bye stewie [20:26] *** stewiegryf left #lounge [] [20:26] <Aislinn> I don't know Poet, I thought she could have been agreeing with the fact that he said "everything stems from that" [20:26] <Aislinn> meaning whether snape is good or not [20:27] <magicmeg8> i'm really not sure with her answers about snape -- she's very good at remaining ambiguous in her answers. [20:27] <miss_danielle> i agree magicmeg [20:27] <Expelliarmas> i'd never want to crossexamine jo [20:27] <Expelliarmas> ever [20:27] <Poet> Ah - that is highly likely as well Ann. [20:27] <magicmeg8> lol expel! [20:28] <Aislinn> Even though she came out and told us about Dumbledore, I just can't see her giving away Snape's loyalty now - its too much of the cliff hanging for the final book [20:28] <magicmeg8> no. me either, ais. [20:28] <gryffindelle> what did rushdie say? [20:28] <fawkes28> oh definitely, aislinn [20:28] <miss_danielle> she wouldnt give anything away [20:28] <gryffindelle> I couldn't find it [20:28] <Poet> She keeps sidestepping Snape but giving little hints lately that perhaps he is really a bad person, however....the things he does...!! smile [20:28] <NYBookworm> I agree aislinn [20:28] <Expelliarmas> she practically devoted a book to snape, she can't under mine 7 now [20:28] <magicmeg8> that would ruin it [20:28] <miss_danielle> in my opinion, thats the main thing in book 7 [20:29] <NYBookworm> I almost think that's more important (or more interesting) than whether or not Harry lives [20:29] <miss_danielle> for me anyway [20:29] <magicmeg8> rushdie asked about dumbledore alive or dead, gryffindelle [20:29] <fawkes28> we analyze snape more than voldemort [20:29] <miss_danielle> i agree Nybookworm [20:29] <Aislinn> gryff, the transcript for the second night will be up soon on quick quotes quill [20:29] <miss_danielle> theres nothing to analyse with Voldie imo [20:29] <gryffindelle> ok, thanx [20:30] <miss_danielle> Snape is so complex [20:30] <Poet> Rushdie: It has always been made plain that Snape might be an unlikable fellow, but he was essentially one of the good guys. (Massive cheering) Dumbledore himself has always vouched for him. Now (unintelligible) Snape is a villain and Dumbledore's killed. We cannot, or don't, want to believe this. (Cheering and laughter). Our theory is that Snape is in fact still a good guy. We propose that Dumbledore can't really be dead. That this in fac [20:30] <fawkes28> he is such a great character [20:30] <Aislinn> thanks, sarah! [20:30] <magicmeg8> cut off at that this is fac- [20:30] <magicmeg8> btw [20:30] <Aislinn> not all there - got cut off [20:30] <miss_danielle> he is fawkes [20:31] <miss_danielle> whatever you think about him, you cant deny that he is a great character [20:31] <fawkes28> we alwasy knew that but she really blew us out of the water in hbp [20:31] <Aislinn> well, fascinating yes, great? that remains to be seen tongue [20:31] <Poet> Jo: Your opinion, I would say, is right. However, I see I am going to have to be more explicit and say Dumbledore is definitely dead. [20:31] <Expelliarmas> lol [20:31] <miss_danielle> i agree i was waiting for snape to let loose - and i wasnt disappointed! [20:31] <magicmeg8> she had been asked by a little boy about whether DD was alive or dead, and then rushdie's question was the one to push her to answer. [20:31] <Aislinn> poet - the end of Rushdie's question got cut off - and its a very important part [20:32] <Expelliarmas> no, snape somewhat lost his marbles at the end of hbp, didn't he? [20:32] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:32] <gryffindelle> but I think he's good [20:32] <Expelliarmas> maybe lockhart can help him find them? [20:32] <miss_danielle> I don't think he lost his marbles, just buckled under the pressure a bit. But he did what he had to do [20:33] <miss_danielle> wooo lockhart smile [20:33] <Poet> http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=908454 [20:33] <Aislinn> Is there an answer to a question that Jo has given that has shaken your belief in one of your pet theories? Which one? [20:33] <Expelliarmas> I have no pet theories, but i do enjoy the discussions. [20:33] <magicmeg8> thanks poet smile [20:34] <gryffindelle> the dd is actually dead one, I believed he wasn't [20:34] <Aislinn> so that must have been a shock for you [20:34] <magicmeg8> I also have no pet theories, but I've been surprised at some things, i think. usually i just go back over what she says and i'm like, "ohhhhh. that makes sense!" [20:34] <Expelliarmas> totally agree mm8 [20:34] <magicmeg8> Yeah, it was a little shocking for me as well, gryffindelle, even though i didn't have a theory on it. [20:34] <magicmeg8> smile [20:35] <NYBookworm> all my pet theories are for book 7 [20:35] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has quit [Bye] [20:35] <Expelliarmas> lol [20:35] <Aislinn> What do you wish someone would ask her that has not yet been asked. [20:35] <fawkes28> what is the title to book 7? [20:35] <fawkes28> lol [20:35] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [20:35] <Aislinn> which might have changed smile [20:36] <Expelliarmas> what would dd have seen from looking at a boggart [20:36] <Poet> Rushdie part 2: Our theory is that Snape is in fact still a good guy. We propose that Dumbledore can't really be dead. That this in fact is a ruse, cooked up between Dumbledore and Snape to put Voldemort off his guard. Harry then will have more friends than he knows when he and Voldemort do face. So, is Snape good or bad? (Massive cheering). It's plain to see, everything follows from this. (Cheering) [20:36] <Expelliarmas> did snape have a second UV, with DD? [20:36] <NYBookworm> how she decided which details to include, and which would give away too much [20:36] <Aislinn> that's the part, poet - thanks! [20:36] <Aislinn> nooooooo, expel [20:36] <Poet> Hah! Yes, Jo preempted the Book 7 title by letting us know the title was still up for change. [20:37] <fawkes28> i know i wish i went to the 2nd night but i went to the first [20:37] <Expelliarmas> nooooooo, what? the boggart or the second UV? [20:37] <Aislinn> that was a surprise to hear, and made me want to know what both possibilities are! [20:37] <Aislinn> the UV [20:37] <fawkes28> maybe she'll tell us post book 7 [20:37] <magicmeg8> I'd like to know what DD would see in the Mirror of Erised -- if it's really a pair of socks, etc smile [20:38] <gryffindelle> Is the locket in grimmuald place that noone could open the real horcrux locket? [20:38] <Aislinn> that would be interesting to find out [20:38] <gryffindelle> though I know she'd never answer it [20:38] <Expelliarmas> who drank the potion when RAB stole the locket? [20:38] <miss_danielle> i wanna know Snape's boggart and patronus, but shes keeping those safe guarded too [20:38] <Expelliarmas> kreacher? [20:38] <Aislinn> what was the question on her website that came in second, when she told us about the Secret Keeper? [20:38] <fawkes28> who else was at godric's hollow? [20:38] <Aislinn> I want to know the answer to that [20:38] <Expelliarmas> ohhh, fawkes, good one [20:38] <miss_danielle> yeh godric's hollow is a biggie for me [20:39] <Poet> Meg - I read somewhere that DD wasn't quite honest about those socks. [20:39] <Aislinn> wasn't it how you destroy a Horcrux? [20:39] <gryffindelle> yeah to both aislinn and fawkes [20:39] <fawkes28> she wouldnt have told us at NYC though [20:39] <magicmeg8> LoL poet. [20:39] <magicmeg8> i think i may have seen that somehwere as well. [20:39] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:40] <Expelliarmas> how is it possible that how to destroy a horcrux came in second?!? [20:41] <Aislinn> I think that was the question [20:41] <Aislinn> I have to go back and look at the site - it was the one I chose, but it came in second [20:41] *** SeverineSnape has quit [Bye] [20:41] <fawkes28> i dont know, expel [20:41] <Poet> I am very much looking forward to seeing Godric's Hallow. I am also curious as to why Jo needed to save this for Book 7, and why Harry couldn't go there before now. [20:41] <magicmeg8> What question have you found the most helpful in understanding the books, or what JKR has planned for the future? [20:41] <Aislinn> there must be something very revealing to be found there [20:43] <CarpeDiem> I think Godrick's Hollow is ap perfect place to bring a lot of clues about Harry's past together. A good place for him to find out key points about his parents and the night he became the boy who lived. [20:43] <Poet> Destroying a horcrux would have to be a very thought out answer - in written form most likely, and of course she can't give us examples because it would ruin parts of Book 7. [20:44] <gryffindelle> I think I chose that one too [20:44] <fawkes28> meg, just the fact that she planned the major plotlines before she started writing fascinates me and that no one can influence her opinion on what will happen since she has been planning for 15 years [20:44] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> bye guys [20:44] <Poet> How to destory a horcrux may have come in second if people thought she couldn't really answer it fully. [20:44] <gryffindelle> on her site [20:44] <Expelliarmas> sometimes the most revealing answers are those she gives when she sidesteps an issue [20:44] <Aislinn> bye gin bot [20:44] <CarpeDiem> See ya GfaB! [20:44] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has quit [Bye] [20:45] <Aislinn> that's true expel [20:45] <magicmeg8> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the new Corner Booth Forum (http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showforum=184). [20:45] <Expelliarmas> as for the questions on her website, if it's on her website, she's at least amenable to answering the question [20:45] <magicmeg8> We know a lot about JKR's personal struggles, do you think that these struggles influence the "rules" of Potterverse? [20:45] <Poet> Just the fact that Jo let us know that the final chapter has been written and will need a few tweaks, but is mostly done....and that the last word is still scar. This helps us see that she has a plan, even if (how she put it at Radio City Music Hall) that there are things in Book 7 that we can't guess. [20:46] <gryffindelle> sometimes [20:46] <miss_danielle> i think they do influence, yea [20:46] <Expelliarmas> what rules, please? [20:46] <Aislinn> she actually said she was surprised that this question wasn't chosen [20:46] <Poet> bye GB! [20:46] <magicmeg8> Well, for instance that death seems to be final. [20:47] <magicmeg8> people can't come back from the dead. [20:47] <Expelliarmas> or that no spell can reawaken the dead? [20:47] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:47] <Expelliarmas> gotcha [20:47] <magicmeg8> yes. and that love can't be fabricated. [20:47] <Aislinn> ugh - lagging [20:47] <fawkes28> well, didnt her mother's death influence how she wrote harry's parents' death? [20:47] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:47] <Expelliarmas> yes, jo was more flippant about harry's parents before the death of her mom [20:47] <magicmeg8> Yes, in the R&J interview, she said after the death of her mother, she hadn't realized how easily she'd killed off harry's parents. [20:48] <Aislinn> she said that it affected the way she wrote the mirror of erised chapter [20:48] <magicmeg8> oh. or what expel said. [20:48] <Expelliarmas> lol [20:48] <fawkes28> do we also think that influences why people cant come back from the dead in her book? [20:48] <Aislinn> I think it probably does [20:49] <Expelliarmas> also her own poverty plays into harry and ron's experiences with deprivation [20:49] <magicmeg8> I think so, fawkes. You know, it seems like those sort of realities are constant -- for instance, felix felicis can only increase your luck, not save you from death or anything [20:49] <gryffindelle> yeah, fawkes [20:49] <Expelliarmas> but, didn't felix help the DA's in the final battle of HBP? [20:50] <gryffindelle> just gave them more luck [20:50] <magicmeg8> Well, it helped them avoid things, but they could still run into trouble. [20:50] <magicmeg8> so they had more of an advantage. [20:50] <CarpeDiem> I think she probably tries to make the universe as "real" as a fantasy world can be. Coming back from the dead would almost be too easy. JKR is very deliberate about the way she writes and they way she answers questions. I thnk it just adds so much more to her books. [20:50] <Poet> Jo's mom was still alive when she wrote book 1, though her mom never had the chance to read it. [20:50] *** LJ has quit [Bye] [20:50] <Poet> I agree fawkes [20:50] <Expelliarmas> but once you buy the farm, that's final no returns no exchanges [20:51] <Aislinn> I agree, carpe [20:51] <magicmeg8> I agree carpe -- the world has to have some sort of stability. [20:51] *** foenyx has quit [Bye] [20:51] <Aislinn> I think she would view it as a cheat to have her characters be able to come back from the dead [20:51] <Expelliarmas> i know i'd feel cheated if the characters came back, well, maybe not sirius [20:52] <fawkes28> it's easy to believe that when you are dealing with magic that people could come back to the dead - which is why i am glad she is definite with that point [20:52] <CarpeDiem> Yep, her plots are far too deep for such an easy "out" [20:52] <miss_danielle> *wants Sirius back* [20:52] <Poet> It made the path clear for Harry so he could see away to what he wanted and a way out of tight spots. [20:52] <magicmeg8> haha. i think with sirius we will have further explanation, though. [20:52] <miss_danielle> i agree [20:52] <Aislinn> hey, carpe, look up to top of board [20:52] <Expelliarmas> the book on sirius is still too open [20:53] <gryffindelle> i agree meg [20:53] <miss_danielle> i agree [20:53] <CarpeDiem> Yes and yes Aislinn, thanks! smile [20:53] *** foenyx has joined #lounge [20:53] <Aislinn> smile [20:53] <Expelliarmas> gotta go, c ya all later [20:53] <gryffindelle> hi foenyx [20:53] <magicmeg8> bye, expel! [20:53] <foenyx> darn [20:53] <miss_danielle> bye expell [20:53] <gryffindelle> bye expel [20:53] <foenyx> hi [20:53] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [20:54] <Poet> Would Harry dying and getting to be with his parents and Sirius and Dumbledore be "too easy" "too soon" for Harry? [20:54] <gryffindelle> off-topic: I just voted for PC/MC @ podcastawards.com [20:54] <fawkes28> hmm interesting question, poet [20:54] <gryffindelle> Please help get them back to CA!! [20:54] <CarpeDiem> For anyone looking to continue the conversation, I'll be holding a discussion in the Chamber of Chat (http://www.chamberofchat.com) after discussion ends here. [20:54] <gryffindelle> what room, carpe? [20:55] <Aislinn> It would not satisfy me as an ending, Poet [20:55] <Poet> Afterall, Jo herself does not anticipate joining her mom again so soon. [20:55] <magicmeg8> true. [20:55] <CarpeDiem> We'll be in the study hall, thanks! [20:55] <Aislinn> exactly - she recognizes that life has to go on [20:55] <gryffindelle> thanx [20:55] <Aislinn> thanks, Carpe! [20:55] <gryffindelle> new version of CoC? [20:55] <gryffindelle> 7.9 [20:56] <magicmeg8> which looks GREAT! smile [20:56] <CarpeDiem> Yep there's been a lot of new additions...even today! [20:56] <gryffindelle> yeah [20:56] <magicmeg8> really? rockin. i think i'll head over there for a bit [20:56] <gryffindelle> like what? [20:57] *** foenyx has quit [Bye] [20:57] <CarpeDiem> You'll see! smile (music in the rooms, a colume control, a new monetary system, etc...) [20:57] <magicmeg8> Thanks for joining us tonight, everyone! [20:57] <Aislinn> very cool! [20:57] <miss_danielle> thanks for a great chat! [20:57] <CarpeDiem> Thanks again for the discussion! Catch everyone later! [20:57] <Aislinn> hope to see you all back for the 2 chats on Saturday! [20:57] <gryffindelle> I didn't know there was a monetary system @ all [20:57] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [20:57] <gryffindelle> what r the topics on sat [20:58] <Aislinn> Hogwarts: A History [20:58] <fawkes28> is there a readin group chat on saturday? [20:58] <Aislinn> and one of the new essays in Scribbulus [20:58] <Aislinn> on the DADA teachers [20:58] <Aislinn> by waggawaggawerewolf [20:58] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes [20:58] <fawkes28> yay! smile [20:58] <gryffindelle> good [20:58] <gryffindelle> thanx [20:58] <magicmeg8> smile [20:59] <Aislinn> 1PM eastern time, and 7pm eastern time [20:59] <Poet> Thanks for running the Corner Booth! smile [20:59] <NYBookworm> bye [20:59] <magicmeg8> haha, thanks for joining us, poet! [20:59] *** NYBookworm has quit [Bye] [20:59] <fawkes28> yes, thanks [20:59] <Aislinn> you're all very welcome! [20:59] <fawkes28> it's been fun [20:59] <fawkes28> see you all later smile [20:59] <magicmeg8> bye fawkes! [20:59] <Poet> Reading groups start August 15th? [20:59] <miss_danielle> bye everyone smile [20:59] <Aislinn> this saturday, poet! [21:00] <Aislinn> the 12th [21:00] <Aislinn> I believe [21:00] *** MotherOfFawks has joined #lounge [21:00] <Aislinn> bye everyone! 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