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 Sep 6 2006, 08:26 PM
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Today's Text Chat Moderators were: futureweasley, Poet, Expelliarmas, and Aislinn.
[18:00] <harryfreak359> Sadly enough, I am still stuck with slow internet...so if I come and go.... [18:01] <Poet> Nice evening, huh? [18:01] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [18:01] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [18:01] <futureweasley> that will be fixed soon, eh? [18:01] <harryfreak359> hopefully tomorrow [18:01] <Poet> great [18:02] <harryfreak359> uh...but I will still be in danger of hitting the backspace button tongue [18:02] *** elizabethsprague has joined #lounge [18:02] <futureweasley> I'm watching a story about Tom and Katie's new baby...it's like a train wreck...I can't seem to avert my eyes [18:02] <harryfreak359> hehe [18:02] <Poet> Yes aren't we all. I haven't hit backspace in a while fortunately [18:02] <elizabethsprague> Good evning all [18:02] <harryfreak359> I just did...hehe [18:02] *** Angelyka13 has joined #lounge [18:02] <Poet> Evening! [18:02] <harryfreak359> hi! [18:02] <futureweasley> hi elizabeth [18:03] <futureweasley> hi Angel [18:03] <harryfreak359> hi everyone! [18:03] <elizabethsprague> how is everyonw? [18:03] <Angelyka13> hello all! [18:03] <Poet> excellent [18:03] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [18:03] <harryfreak359> good, thanks, and you? [18:03] <elizabethsprague> sorry everyone [18:03] <futureweasley> doing well, having a great night [18:03] <Poet> HI GB! [18:03] <futureweasley> hi GFAB [18:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi P [18:03] *** Spown has joined #lounge [18:03] <harryfreak359> hi gfab [18:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Aislinn [18:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Harryfreak [18:03] <Spown> hi everyone [18:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Future [18:03] <Poet> G fab [18:04] <futureweasley> hi Spown [18:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Expelliarmas [18:04] <Spown> how are you guys? [18:04] <harryfreak359> hi spown [18:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> spown [18:04] <Spown> how was the first week of school ? smile [18:04] <Poet> Great, and you? [18:04] <harryfreak359> good [18:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> angelyka [18:04] <elizabethsprague> good now topic please [18:04] *** gryffindelle has joined #lounge [18:04] <Spown> it was ok for me [18:04] <futureweasley> I'm going back to class tomorrow night [18:04] *** Breanna has joined #lounge [18:04] <Poet> Topic is at the beginning when you log in [18:04] <gryffindelle> hey [18:04] * futureweasley is anxious [18:04] <Angelyka13> no class here smile [18:04] <Poet> Spells and Their Uses [18:04] <futureweasley> hi breanna [18:04] <elizabethsprague> ok [18:04] *** AnnaNoe has joined #lounge [18:04] <gryffindelle> hi breanna [18:05] <Poet> Hi Anna [18:05] <gryffindelle> and anna [18:05] <Spown> we should wait for a minute [18:05] <Spown> people are still comming in [18:05] <Breanna> hiyee [18:05] <Spown> hi [18:05] <harryfreak359> hi! [18:05] <Poet> Aren't starting yet, don't worry. [18:05] <AnnaNoe> hii [18:05] <AnnaNoe> o ok [18:05] <futureweasley> anna made it in time!! woot! [18:05] <elizabethsprague> ok [18:05] <AnnaNoe> yea i actually make it b4 everything starts! [18:05] <Expelliarmas> Anna, you're early! [18:05] <Spown> lol [18:05] <AnnaNoe> haha yea [18:05] <gryffindelle> how is everyone? [18:05] <elizabethsprague> good [18:05] <Poet> terrific [18:05] <Spown> i'm fine [18:05] <AnnaNoe> 2morrow johnnys birthday! [18:05] <harryfreak359> good [18:05] <Poet> yes it is, the big 22 [18:05] <AnnaNoe> or John [18:06] <Poet> coolio [18:06] <AnnaNoe> ha yay [18:06] <futureweasley> being a card carrying member of John Noe's Fan Club, I actually have it on my calendar [18:06] <futureweasley> lol [18:06] <harryfreak359> lol [18:06] <Poet> One of the Chamber of Chat moderators also turns 22 tomorrow [18:06] <Spown> lol [18:06] <AnnaNoe> haha nice [18:06] <Spown> cool [18:06] <AnnaNoe> punky right [18:06] <Spown> who? [18:06] <AnnaNoe> ? [18:06] <Poet> John's long lost twin [18:06] * futureweasley loves Punky [18:06] *** gingin77 has joined #lounge [18:06] <Spown> punky!!! [18:06] <Poet> Punky [18:06] <AnnaNoe> someone PMed me about it [18:06] <Spown> AWESOME [18:06] <gingin77> skizore.. im in [18:07] * harryfreak359 is hungry.... [18:07] <gryffindelle> yay [18:07] <harryfreak359> brb [18:07] <gingin77> ello Poet... anna.... gryffindelle... harryfreak [18:07] <Spown> when should we start? [18:07] <gingin77> ans Spown [18:07] <gryffindelle> hi gingin [18:07] <Spown> hello [18:07] <futureweasley> we usually start at about 7:15...give people a minute to get here [18:07] <futureweasley> *gives [18:07] <Poet> Spown, don't worry. We usually officially start - yes 15 after [18:08] <Spown> good [18:08] <elizabethsprague> ok is everyone hear [18:08] <gingin77> lol [18:08] <gingin77> hear.. as in sound elizabeth? [18:08] <AnnaNoe> o darn [18:08] <AnnaNoe> i gtg eat [18:08] <gingin77> enjoy your food anna.. [18:08] <elizabethsprague> dont mean to be roud [18:08] <Spown> eat fast [18:08] <Poet> Bye! [18:08] <AnnaNoe> i bbl [18:08] <harryfreak359> back [18:08] <Spown> but don't choke1 [18:08] <gingin77> i was joking eliz [18:08] <AnnaNoe> haah i wont..ha [18:08] <futureweasley> ok, bye Anna [18:08] <elizabethsprague> ok [18:08] <Spown> so who has school tomorrow? i do [18:08] <Breanna> i'm hungry... [18:08] <gryffindelle> bye Anna [18:08] <gingin77> im sarcastic sorry... i have school every day [18:08] <gryffindelle> I do, spown [18:09] <Breanna> i do too...i had it today s well [18:09] *** AnnaNoe has quit [Bye] [18:09] <gryffindelle> and I have math homework! [18:09] <Spown> yeah [18:09] <harryfreak359> I have only spanish tomorrow [18:09] <Spown> school pfft! [18:09] <gingin77> ohh math homework.. i have anatomy [18:09] <Spown> i've learned more in TLC than school [18:09] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> brb [18:09] <Angelyka13> i actually miss homework [18:09] <gingin77> i agree with that Spown [18:09] <futureweasley> lol, me too Spown [18:10] <harryfreak359> I miss homework when I don't have it, but when I get it [18:10] <Spown> i actually enjoyed today's Adv. Algebra homework. It was fun for a change [18:10] <Breanna> i get my bachelor's in three semesters! [18:10] <gingin77> its funny like that sometimes [18:10] <elizabethsprague> well it is good to lern a diffrent langwidg [18:10] <harryfreak359> I don't enjoy it so much [18:10] <gingin77> lucky you breanna.. i have to wait untill um.. 2009 [18:10] * Expelliarmas applauds Breanna! [18:10] <elizabethsprague> i know my spelling is bad [18:10] <futureweasley> but I have a total cutie that is in my computer classes that looks JUST LIKE Dan Radcliffe...obviously, I'm a bit smitten [18:10] <harryfreak359> that's okay elizabeth [18:10] <Spown> i graduate from hugh school in 2009.... [18:10] <Spown> lol, future [18:10] <Spown> good for you [18:10] <Breanna> yeah..i should have my master's in 2010 [18:10] <gingin77> are you serious future [18:11] <Spown> i guess [18:11] <gryffindelle> me too spown [18:11] <Poet> Oh dear, how will you get any work done with a Harry Potter look-alike in your class? [18:11] <harryfreak359> lol future [18:11] <gryffindelle> go class of '09!! [18:11] * futureweasley is totally serious [18:11] <Spown> lol [18:11] <Spown> YEAH! [18:11] <Spown> WOOT! [18:11] <elizabethsprague> im not talkind much im doing oter stuff to [18:11] <gryffindelle> biggrin [18:11] <futureweasley> and I have a date with him on Friday! Burgers and beers after class [18:11] <futureweasley> YAY! [18:11] <Spown> wow [18:11] <Spown> that's fast [18:11] <harryfreak359> You should ask him if he his harry potter future [18:11] <Spown> school hasn't started properly yet [18:11] <Spown> and you have a date? [18:12] <futureweasley> I've been in 3 other classes with him...it's more like Trevor than Firebolts [18:12] <harryfreak359> laugh [18:12] <Spown> ask him if he's hp fan [18:12] <gingin77> i have a story like that.. cept that the kid was a senior physics major.. and i was sitting in the hallway waiting for lit class... and this boy.. Looks just like my picture of harry in my mind right.. glasses.. messy black hair... i think he even was wearing a striped shirt... and my jaw just dropped and my friend pulled me back and said.. he is a senior and his name isnt Harry [18:12] <gingin77> lol [18:12] <Breanna> lucky@ [18:12] <elizabethsprague> who has had everyflaver bens and are thay good [18:12] <Expelliarmas> some schools/colleges have been going for awhile, Spown, depends on where you are in the USA [18:12] <futureweasley> I have, and he's not...but he deals with it because it's all I seem to talk about [18:12] <gryffindelle> I started yesterday [18:12] <Spown> ok [18:12] <harryfreak359> they really taste like what they say, elzabeth, i think that is kind of scary [18:12] <Spown> i started yesterday as well [18:13] <futureweasley> gingin, I love it when that happens! Cute boys rule [18:13] <harryfreak359> elizabeth* [18:13] <elizabethsprague> yes [18:13] <gingin77> future.. it was soo funny .. my friend was like down girl [18:13] <Spown> o...k... [18:13] <gingin77> i was ready to drool over him... [18:13] <futureweasley> lol [18:13] <elizabethsprague> good [18:13] <harryfreak359> lol [18:13] <Spown> well, believe it or not i have a luna look-alike in my school [18:13] <Breanna> my husband looks like a weasley lol...except w/ a short nose [18:13] <gingin77> so do i.. she lives on my floor [18:13] <Spown> she acts weird at times [18:13] <harryfreak359> I have never met a HP character look alike... [18:13] <harryfreak359> so sad [18:14] * Expelliarmas believes there are many Lunas lurking about the universe [18:14] <gryffindelle> me either [18:14] <Spown> aw [18:14] <gingin77> and she likes potter.. so im gonna make her a cork necklace [18:14] <Spown> lol, expelliarmus [18:14] <elizabethsprague> i heard some of them are not good [18:14] <gryffindelle> lol, gingin [18:14] <Spown> lol [18:14] * Breanna thinks expelliarmus is right on target with that [18:14] <gingin77> i think she might wear it too [18:14] <gingin77> how do you do the star thing [18:14] * harryfreak359 agrees with expel too [18:14] <futureweasley> I love the song Alex from the Remus Lupins wrote about Luna Lovegood [18:14] <Spown> I hate it when the teachers start talking aobut their "rules and expectations" on the first day [18:15] <Spown> IT"S SO BORING! [18:15] <futureweasley> everytime I hear "Luna", I think of that song [18:15] <Breanna> without spaces [18:15] <gingin77> i love alex [18:15] <gryffindelle> type /me [18:15] <Poet> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [18:15] <gryffindelle> ,gingin [18:15] <gingin77> thanks gryff [18:15] <Expelliarmas> hey, hey, now; some of us have to explain the rules of the game to the happy students [18:15] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [18:15] <Poet> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod. [18:15] <Poet> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Poet got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [18:16] <Poet> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [18:16] <Poet> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. And - for the benefit of our non-English speakers (and those that read the transcript later) please try to use standard, complete English words when typing. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [18:16] <futureweasley> One of the more intriguing aspects of the Potter series is the use of magic in the form of spells. We have jinxes, charms, hexes, and curses. We have verbal and nonverbal spells. From the Lexicon, a jinx is “a spell cast to cause damage or other negative effect.” Similar to a curse, “but typically not as powerful or cast with such negative intention. Jinxes are part of defensive magic.” [18:16] <futureweasley> Some jinxes are referred to as hexes. A curse then is a powerful spell cast with the negative intention to cause damage. [18:16] <futureweasley> A charm then is a spell which has no negative intention to cause harm or damage. Per the Lexicon, “charms are a type of magic spell concerned with enchanting an object to behave in a way that isn't normal for that object.” Charms do not tend to have a negative connotation associated with them. [18:16] <futureweasley> Words are one element of a spell. There can be wrist movement (swish and flick!). There might not be the need for any words at all. They can be verbal or nonverbal. Most importantly, however, the intention behind the spell may have the biggest impact on the intensity and success of the spell. [18:17] <futureweasley> So here we are, let’s discuss spells and their uses. [18:17] <futureweasley> 1. Can a charm become a jinx or even a curse? Why or why not? [18:17] <Spown> good [18:17] <Spown> let's talk about the jinxes we know [18:17] <Spown> Loco mortis would be one, right? [18:17] <Poet> Hmm [18:17] <futureweasley> I thought this was a good question, because the first thing I thought of was what it takes to create a Horcrux, and what little we know about it [18:17] <harryfreak359> Yeah I don't see why they couldn't if they are used to hurt someone else [18:17] <Aislinn> I think charms are meant to be benevolent in nature, so I don't think of them as being turned into jinxes [18:18] <gryffindelle> I don't think so [18:18] <Expelliarmas> brb [18:18] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [18:18] <Poet> The difference between charms and other types of spells is a bit confusing, yes [18:18] <Angelyka13> I guess it would depend on the intentions of the user [18:18] <Spown> charms become a curse- i don't think so [18:18] <fawkes28> however, its the people who make the decision to use something that is good and turn it into something that is evil [18:18] <gryffindelle> a charm is a charm, a jinx is a jinx, and a curse is a curse [18:18] <futureweasley> isn't Locomortis the leg-locker? [18:18] <Spown> but it depends on who is making the charm [18:19] <gingin77> thanks for clarifing that gryffinedelle [18:19] <Breanna> i agree gryffindelle [18:19] <Breanna> i mean, what was Avada Kedavra before it was a "curse"? [18:19] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Agree with you Aislinn [18:19] <Spown> yeah, but remember mr Weasley's first job [18:19] <Angelyka13> one persons jinx is another persons charm [18:19] <Spown> dissapearing keys? [18:19] <Spown> that would be a chram [18:19] <gingin77> i think Avada kedavra has always been a curse [18:19] <harryfreak359> I think so too [18:19] <futureweasley> that is very interesting way to look at it [18:19] <Spown> but used as a practical joike [18:19] <gingin77> it always had a negitive intention [18:19] <Poet> Charms seem to do with objects and jinxes are directed at people [18:19] <Aislinn> I agree gingin [18:19] <Spown> yep, poet [18:20] <futureweasley> yes, Poet, good observation [18:20] <Angelyka13> maybe at first it was a charm for pest control? [18:20] <Poet> While transfiguration could affect objects or living things [18:20] <Aislinn> that's a good distinction poet [18:20] <gingin77> i doubt it [18:20] <Breanna> right, but that's what i'm saying, i don't think that spells can "evolve" into jinxes or whatever, i think they just are what they are [18:20] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hmm - charms seem to be positive - cheering charm, certain enchantments to, like Poet said, objects [18:20] <elizabethsprague> it depend on whet it is for [18:20] <futureweasley> you couldn't exactly bat-bogey hex the whomping willow, could you? [18:20] <gingin77> Angel.. if you say that... then it goes into the complexities of if killing any living thing is right or not [18:20] <harryfreak359> I think it depends on what you consider a jinx or a charm [18:20] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> levitation - is that a charm? [18:20] <gingin77> i agree with you Breanna [18:20] <Poet> *gulp* You're right. The cheering charm is directed toward a person. [18:20] <futureweasley> I think it is GFAB [18:20] <Spown> Charms are meant to be good but they could be used for evil as well [18:20] <Angelyka13> so [18:21] <gingin77> wingardium leviosa is a charm [18:21] <Spown> yes, levitation is a charm [18:21] <gryffindelle> I agree with poet's definition [18:21] <Poet> But perhaps it's simply a charm because cheering begins with a "c" [18:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> so I think charms are positive energy [18:21] <futureweasley> I guess there are obvious exceptions to every rule [18:21] <futureweasley> especially in magic [18:21] <Spown> yeah [18:21] <gryffindelle> yeah [18:21] <gingin77> agreed future [18:21] <Poet> You know how Jo loves her double letters [18:21] <Spown> LV used a charm to make a horcrux, right? [18:21] <gingin77> we dont know [18:21] <Poet> We don't [18:21] <futureweasley> we don't really know [18:22] <Poet> right [18:22] <Breanna> i don't think we know [18:22] <Spown> we ssume [18:22] <Breanna> lol [18:22] <gingin77> We dont know how to make a horcrux.. we just know that they are made [18:22] <futureweasley> it's assumed that it's a charm [18:22] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [18:22] <futureweasley> but there's obviously a lot more to it [18:22] <Poet> Hi Carpe [18:22] <Spown> welcome, carpediem [18:22] <futureweasley> hi CD [18:22] <gingin77> hi carpe [18:22] <Aislinn> there's really nothing that tells us one way or the other [18:22] <CarpeDiem> Evening all! [18:22] <Breanna> howdy carpe [18:22] <gingin77> all we know about Horcruxes is that they require the splitting of the soul [18:22] <elizabethsprague> HI CD\ [18:22] <gingin77> after that.. we have no clue [18:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I mean if you took their meanings charm - positive connotations curse - negative ones [18:23] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [18:23] <Poet> So no, I don't think a charm can become a jinx, but perhaps you could modify it to work permanently on an object, thus making it into a curse [18:23] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [18:23] <gingin77> agreed GFAB [18:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> to curse - whether with words or otherwise is negative [18:23] <gryffindelle> hi carpe and expel [18:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and to charm well [18:23] <futureweasley> One of our mods loves the Expelliarmus spell which is used to disarm one’s opponent. A very useful spell and one which Harry used in GOF against Voldemort. Snape used it against Lockhart. What do you think of this spell? Does it knock people over, or not? [18:23] <CarpeDiem> Agreed Poet. A Curse sounds permanent where as a charm can be reversed [18:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> it all depends on how you feel about people who charm [18:23] <Spown> Here is my definition-charms are used to make the life of a wizard easier but they can be used for other things, depending on the wizard. For example the Aguamenti charm is used to fill a cup with water, but there are charms that make practical jokes, like changing wands, etc [18:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> it's usually positive [18:24] <gingin77> No... it just disarms except when used with force [18:24] <Spown> Sorry, I was typing by the time of the next topic [18:24] <Poet> No, I always thought it was to disarm (so confused) [18:24] <gingin77> Harry was excited and used force when he dircted it at snape so it was stronger than usual [18:24] <futureweasley> I always saw it as simply disarming the opponent...not by force [18:24] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [18:24] <harryfreak359> I thought it was to disarm too [18:24] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [18:24] *** Expelliarmas has quit [Bye] [18:24] <Angelyka13> well from the latin it would be my assumption that it is just to disarm [18:24] <Spown> it's a disarming spell [18:25] <Poet> Agress. [18:25] <harryfreak359> yep [18:25] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Expelliarmus - meant to disarm I believe - if disarming means it knocks someone over then [18:25] <gryffindelle> It depends how much force is used, yeah [18:25] <Aislinn> I think that when it has taken people off their feet, it has been because it was cast by more than one person, [18:25] <elizabethsprague> that is a good on [18:25] <Aislinn> or with undue force [18:25] <futureweasley> I am wondering why, then, it could even come toe to toe with LV's avada kedavra and create the Priori Incantatum [18:25] <Poet> Especially if ther are holding on tight to their wand [18:25] <gingin77> Harry did it all by himself to Snape right [18:25] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I must stop popping in and out of windows [18:25] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> sorry [18:25] <elizabethsprague> landlock is a good one [18:25] <Aislinn> I'm not sure it mattered what spell Harry threw, FW [18:25] <Angelyka13> i dont think it mattered what spell Harry cast (casted?) [18:26] <gryffindelle> that would happen with any two spells i think, future [18:26] <CarpeDiem> I believe emotion has a lot to do with spell casting. Something meant to disarm could certainly knowck someone over if there was enough force behind it. [18:26] <Aislinn> it had more to do with the wand battling each other [18:26] <futureweasley> Does that really makes sense though? [18:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> exactly right C [18:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> CD* [18:26] <Poet> I like the idea that Harry's was the expelliarmus. Voldemort's wand expelled the ghost-like imprints of the people he'd killed [18:26] <elizabethsprague> thare are a lot of good spells [18:26] <futureweasley> just out of curiosity, a weak spell vs. the most powerful of all spells [18:26] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [18:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> emotion has a great deal to do with the power and focus [18:26] <gingin77> Priori Incantatum... i agree with what Mellissa said this past podcast 54 that it was two spells in the same space at the same time and any diviation either way it would have never happened [18:26] <gingin77> it was just the luck of the draw [18:26] <Spown> yeah [18:27] <futureweasley> I agreed with a lot of that too, Gingin [18:27] <Spown> i totally agree with Melissa, that's always how I've explained it to myself [18:27] <harryfreak359> I agree too [18:27] <gryffindelle> me too [18:27] <Aislinn> yeah, it makes sense [18:27] <Spown> but... [18:27] <Poet> Yes, I agree. They were both aiming toward each other's middle, so it was somewhat easy for the two to hit - [18:27] <Poet> And both were on guard... [18:27] <Spown> there definately is a connection between the emotions of the wizard and the power of the spell he casts [18:28] <Poet> Harry was likely aiming toward Voldemort's wand too [18:28] <harryfreak359> and not meniton the wansd are connected [18:28] <gingin77> exactly... thats what i was saying with Harry's expelliarmus in book three and that explains why Snape went flying into the bed... [18:28] <futureweasley> the wand is a vessel of your inner-most emotion [18:28] <Angelyka13> hmmm voldemort was aiming a little low then... [18:28] <Aislinn> that would make sense, poet, since he was trying to disarm him [18:28] <Angelyka13> was there a hill [18:28] <Expelliarmas> "Aiming" the spell is not something which is well explained to the students, is it? [18:28] <Spown> ? [18:28] <Poet> Too grue Angelyka13 [18:28] <futureweasley> it just doesn't seem very logical to me that whimpy vs. mega and the whimpy wins [18:28] * harryfreak359 asks everyone to excuse her spelling...she's eating right now [18:28] <Aislinn> no, expie [18:28] <Angelyka13> there was no win or lose... [18:29] <Aislinn> it wasn't the expelliarmus that won, FW [18:29] <futureweasley> no, Expie, think of Harry throwing that Sectusempra at Malfoy [18:29] <Poet> Harry concentrated harder [18:29] <gingin77> future what do you mean [18:29] <Aislinn> it just caused the 2 wands to connect [18:29] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [18:29] <futureweasley> it was completely out of control [18:29] <Poet> And pushed the beads of light to LV [18:29] <Spown> what do you mean future? [18:29] <Aislinn> then Harry's willpower caused the beds of light to go back into Voldie's wand [18:29] <futureweasley> right, no winners...a draw [18:29] <Poet> Voldemort I mean [18:29] <gingin77> future.. i dont think harry knew what sectusempra did untill he did it to malfoy [18:29] <Spown> yeah [18:29] <futureweasley> no, he didn't [18:30] <futureweasley> you're right, but I was talking more about aiming [18:30] <gingin77> it just said in the potions book "for use on enemies" or something like that [18:30] <harryfreak359> yep [18:30] <Spown> ok, i think i get you future [18:30] <gingin77> sorry i missed the context in your answer future.. my bad [18:30] <futureweasley> it was really "reckless" [18:30] <gingin77> yes it was [18:30] <Spown> yes it was [18:30] <futureweasley> and kind of all over the place [18:30] <Spown> but wasn't harry aiming at general direction? [18:30] <Poet> So the spell that affected Voldemort's wand wasn't Expelliarmus exactly, but what if the bead of light had reached Harry's wand instead? [18:30] <Aislinn> he had allowed himself to be lulled into a sense of security about the book [18:30] <futureweasley> whereas, when Snape used it on James, it was quite controlled [18:31] <gingin77> it is described that Harry just sort of slashed the spell so that is what happend to Draco.. he got slashed [18:31] <Aislinn> it would have caused Harry's wand to regurgitate its last spells, Poet [18:31] <Spown> snape used it on james? [18:31] <Spown> which spell? [18:31] <Aislinn> its interesting that Harry had a stronger force of will than Voldie there - bodes well for the next book [18:31] <futureweasley> and cut his face, in Snape's Worst Memory [18:31] <gryffindelle> I think that aiming is important, remember when umridge was going to cast crucio on harry in book 5 [18:31] <gingin77> yeah in Snapes Worst memory spown.. sectusempra [18:31] <Spown> oh! [18:31] <Poet> And Harry wouldn't have had the protection and help of his parents and those that Voldemort was "afraid" of. [18:31] <Spown> that's right [18:32] <Aislinn> right [18:32] <Expelliarmas> Harry had a bigger motivation than LV, he was trying to avoid being killed; LV never thought Harry could do him in. [18:32] <Spown> well, snape DID invent Sectumsempra [18:32] <harryfreak359> right [18:32] <futureweasley> A rather useful charm is the summoning charm of Accio. Frustrated Muggles have attempted to invoke this spell in hopeless searches for things such as their car keys and the TV remote. What spell do you wish worked for Muggles and why? [18:32] <elizabethsprague> whet about oclumisy [18:32] <gingin77> Accio..... [18:32] <harryfreak359> Hehe [18:32] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL [18:32] <gingin77> i love that spell [18:32] <harryfreak359> alllllll of them [18:32] <Spown> Accio and Lumos [18:32] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> It depends [18:32] <gingin77> Lumos too.. that seems logical.. and if you have lumos you need to have nox [18:32] <Aislinn> I would love to be able to use the Accio spell [18:33] <Aislinn> so handy [18:33] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Accio would be right up there [18:33] <Spown> lol yeah [18:33] <Breanna> good self defense spells [18:33] <futureweasley> Nox would be a good one [18:33] <futureweasley> and Legimens! [18:33] <Breanna> NO MEANS NO! FLIPPENDO! [18:33] <Spown> how about Impedimenta? [18:33] <harryfreak359> accio or DADA spell [18:33] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> as would [18:33] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> omg - I can't remember the name of it [18:33] * Expelliarmas tried using Accio in search of a file--didn't work [18:33] <CarpeDiem> Wingardium Leviosa(sp?) [18:33] <gingin77> i would want bombarda [18:33] <gingin77> lol [18:33] <futureweasley> ooh, obliviate! [18:33] <harryfreak359> ooohhhh Legilimens of course! [18:33] * Poet has also tried Accio [18:33] <harryfreak359> yes, that one! [18:33] <Spown> Espelliarmus would also be usefull at defence [18:33] <Aislinn> describe it Gfab [18:33] <Angelyka13> id like expelliarmus but thats just for my own amusement [18:33] <Spown> lol [18:34] <futureweasley> I've tried Accio on several occasions [18:34] <Angelyka13> knock stuff out of peoples hands [18:34] <Spown> lol [18:34] <harryfreak359> I think we all have tried accio [18:34] <futureweasley> expelliarmus? [18:34] <harryfreak359> smile [18:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> the flying one but not leviosa - I must be getting this mixed up with something else [18:34] <gingin77> when i was hurt .. i used accio to yell at my brothers to get me stuff and it worked for a bit [18:34] <elizabethsprague> that is a good one [18:34] <gingin77> untill they got tired of it [18:34] <Spown> hehe, i would like to try obliviate on some classmates [18:34] <Spown> that would be fun [18:34] <Expelliarmas> I'd be afraid of people using Expelliarmus on me ... [18:34] <Angelyka13> or when im playing softball... so they dont catch it [18:34] <harryfreak359> hehe...expelliarmus would be fun to perform.... [18:34] <Aislinn> the one where they floated people along? [18:34] <gingin77> ha ha angel now that would be unsportsmanlike [18:35] <Poet> I've tried Lumos, but I'm entirely Muggle [18:35] <futureweasley> I would like to use all the spells at least once [18:35] <Poet> Levicorpus [18:35] <Spown> Levicorpus would be awesome as well [18:35] <gingin77> i agree with lumos [18:35] <Expelliarmas> moblicorpus [18:35] <futureweasley> have like a bunchcard...and you can use each spell, but only once per lifetime [18:35] <Poet> aww yes [18:35] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> another good one, at least for me - reparo [18:35] <Angelyka13> well... i swear they all have the accio spell so it would make it even [18:35] <CarpeDiem> Petrificus Totalus! smile [18:35] <Spown> actually don't they sell wands whose tips light up??? [18:35] <futureweasley> reparo! [18:35] <harryfreak359> I agree gfab [18:35] <gingin77> yes reparo [18:35] <Poet> Yes they do Spown [18:35] <Aislinn> good one, gfab - reparo would be very useful [18:35] <futureweasley> I'm in constant need of that one [18:35] <gingin77> totaly [18:35] <harryfreak359> I need that [18:35] <Spown> REPARO! good one [18:35] <Breanna> how about levigroceries [18:36] <Aislinn> lol [18:36] <futureweasley> lol [18:36] <Spown> lol [18:36] <gingin77> k reparo, lumos, accio, and nox.. i think i would be set for life [18:36] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has quit [Bye] [18:36] <Expelliarmas> pack! would be useful for me [18:36] <CarpeDiem> Yes, reparo and whats the other...scurgify? For cleaning? [18:36] <Spown> oh yeah [18:36] <futureweasley> I was thinking shutupthyneighboro [18:36] <harryfreak359> oooh yes [18:36] <gingin77> yeah scorgify [18:36] <Breanna> doesn't nox just put your wand light out? [18:36] <Expelliarmas> FW that would be silencio! [18:36] <Poet> Alohamora would be nice to go along with levigroceries [18:36] <Spown> yes, it does [18:36] <gryffindelle> scourgify/evanesco [18:36] <Aislinn> ooh, scourgify would be the one I want more than all the others! [18:36] <futureweasley> oh, that's right [18:36] <CarpeDiem> lol Poet [18:36] <futureweasley> lol [18:36] <Aislinn> I hate cleaning [18:36] <gingin77> yeah but to have lumos you need to have nox [18:36] <harryfreak359> Future us silencip [18:36] <Breanna> lol [18:36] <gingin77> they coinside [18:36] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [18:36] <gryffindelle> really, all of them though [18:36] <Spown> wb ginny [18:36] <Aislinn> wb [18:37] <Breanna> true [18:37] <gingin77> wb GFAB [18:37] * harryfreak359 clearly can type while eating [18:37] <CarpeDiem> Is nox just used for luminos or does it cancel all "continuous" spells? [18:37] <futureweasley> what about the one that Fudge uses to amplify his voice at the World Cup? [18:37] <gryffindelle> wb GFAB [18:37] <Spown> only lumos it think [18:37] <Aislinn> I think its just for Lumox [18:37] <Poet> Ooo...good question Carpe [18:37] <Expelliarmas> sonorus [18:37] <futureweasley> Sonorus? [18:37] <gingin77> sornos.... [18:37] <Spown> cause Nox means invisible or Dark [18:37] <gingin77> i was close [18:37] <elizabethsprague> i have to ru have a good night all [18:37] <futureweasley> yes, I'd like to use that one [18:37] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> testing [18:37] <gingin77> maybe its for all light [18:37] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle left #lounge [] [18:37] <Expelliarmas> bye elizabeth [18:37] *** elizabethsprague has quit [Bye] [18:37] <harryfreak359> bye! [18:37] <Angelyka13> \bye elizabeth [18:38] <Spown> it might work on other lights, sure [18:38] <Aislinn> we've seen others used to end spells - quietus for sonorus, and finite for that jelly-legged jinx [18:38] <Expelliarmas> you don't really need lumos or nox, just get a clapper! [18:38] <harryfreak359> How about point-me [18:38] <Spown> lol [18:38] * futureweasley has a clapper [18:38] <futureweasley> and I love it [18:38] <gingin77> well finite incantatum seems to end most spells [18:38] <harryfreak359> the one that shows you north [18:38] <Spown> and say "Lumos" while you clap? [18:38] <gingin77> exept nox is used for lumos [18:38] <Poet> I just have to mention that there is light-switch plate/cover that has crucion and cruicoff on it. [18:38] <gingin77> hahahahahah [18:39] <Breanna> nah even if i have the direction of north it doesn't keep me from getting lost [18:39] <Expelliarmas> I wouldn't need the point-me spell, just a compus [18:39] <gingin77> you got to be kidding me poet where di you find it [18:39] <futureweasley> I'm like to use the Imperius from time to time [18:39] <Expelliarmas> or a gps [18:39] <futureweasley> Aguamenti was introduced in HBP and is used to conjure water. Harry used it to try and give Dumbledore water in the cave; and, Harry and Hagrid used it to put out the fire at Hagrid’s hut. What did you think of this spell? Were you surprised Hagrid was able to manage that spell? [18:39] <gingin77> future you bad bad person [18:39] <harryfreak359> yeah... [18:39] <gingin77> i liked that spell [18:39] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [18:39] <harryfreak359> Actually I totally agree with you future [18:39] <gingin77> could be useful at softball practice [18:39] <Spown> how did Hagrid learn that spell??? [18:39] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> testing [18:39] <Aislinn> I think Hagrid could be a perfectly fine wizard,, if he had the chance to finish school [18:39] <harryfreak359> Imperio would be great [18:39] <Spown> and yes, i love aquamenti [18:40] <gingin77> aquamenti... ive said that a few times too [18:40] <Aislinn> he's lived at Hogwarts since he was 11 - I think he's probably picked up a lot [18:40] <harryfreak359> hey gfab [18:40] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [18:40] <gingin77> wb GFAB [18:40] <Poet> I wasn't surprised. Hagrid was kicked at the end of his third year. Hermione could do some pretty cool spells even her first year. [18:40] <Aislinn> he just can't do stuff really well because he doesn't have an intact wand [18:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> thanks [18:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Odd [18:40] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [18:40] <Spown> it makes sence though, cuse aqua means water. i've never heard of agua [18:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> my whole system froze [18:40] <Expelliarmas> Why hasn't Hagrid been giving the green light to perform magic in public? He has his wand, and he was innocent [18:40] <futureweasley> his wands is in his umbrella...I don't really think there isn't much Hagrid CAN'T do [18:40] <Poet> I see what you mean Aislinn [18:40] <gingin77> Expelliarmas.. he never finished school [18:40] <Breanna> Spown agua is spanish for water.... [18:40] *** Dumbleforth has joined #lounge [18:41] <Aislinn> he was expelled, and they snapped his wand [18:41] <Expelliarmas> There are folks who never went to school, the Gaunts, and they perform magic? [18:41] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [18:41] <futureweasley> what I did think was weird is that Aquimenti went from filling a simple water glass to acting like a fire hose [18:41] <Spown> and aqua is water in latin, right? Maybe Jo used the spanish word, who knows? [18:41] <Aislinn> and they never really declared him innocent back when all that happened the first time [18:41] <Spown> lol, fture [18:41] <gingin77> good point.. but im with Aislinn... they snapped his wand [18:41] <Spown> it's possible that a wizard can control the level of the spell [18:41] <Breanna> dunno lol.. [18:41] <gryffindelle> I like it, and I'm sure he picked it up somewhere, it would be useful for his gamekeeping duties [18:41] <Poet> Was it because his wand was longer than most, perhaps the pieces were bigger? [18:42] <futureweasley> like Dumbledore couldn't "reparo" Hagrid's wand? he's the most powerful wizard of all time [18:42] <Poet> His wand was 16 inches long [18:42] <futureweasley> lol [18:42] <Expelliarmas> well, Hagrid picked up the spell quickly enough when Harry told him the incantation [18:42] <Spown> he couldn't think of the spell at first though [18:42] <Breanna> gingin why would they snap his wand but not shut him up in azkaban for life? [18:42] <gingin77> i dont think you can reparo wands [18:42] <Poet> And it was oak which is known for its strength [18:42] <futureweasley> they did snap his wand [18:42] <Spown> no, it's impossible to reparo wands [18:42] <gingin77> other wise ron would have asked harry to do that when his wand broke in book 2 [18:42] <gingin77> because it was an offence at school breanna [18:42] <Expelliarmas> I'm sure Hagrid used something like unicorn hair to bind his wand [18:43] <Breanna> he has lily's wand int he umbrella [18:43] <Spown> ??!! [18:43] <gingin77> He has his wand in the umbrella [18:43] <Spown> lily's wand??? [18:43] <Breanna> k [18:43] <Aislinn> well, Harry being able to do something in his second year, and Dumbledore being able to repair Hagrid's wand are 2 different things [18:43] <Breanna> that's the conclusion that i came to sunday [18:43] <futureweasley> I think he's wand is in his umbrella [18:43] <Spown> yeah [18:43] <gingin77> I just dont think you can reparo a wand Aislinn [18:43] <Spown> his wand is in his ubrella [18:43] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [18:43] <futureweasley> there's always a possibility of something else, though [18:43] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid shifted guiltily when Ollivander asked him about his wand, Hagrid admitted he had the pieces in SS/PS [18:44] <harryfreak359> testing.... [18:44] <Spown> but I think Hagrid knows only those spells used around the garden [18:44] <futureweasley> Jo has proved that over and over again [18:44] <CarpeDiem> Wands are all about the cores and the wood I think...anyone can shove something into a piece of wood. I think there must be a difficult magic behind wand making. He may have attempted to repair but it will never be as good as it was whole. [18:44] <Aislinn> right expie [18:44] <Breanna> next to lily's lol [18:44] <Spown> nothing more, nothing less [18:44] <gingin77> we have heard of 3 wands broken.. Ron's Neville's and Hagrid's .. none of them were reparoed [18:44] <Aislinn> right, CD [18:44] <Expelliarmas> you're hear HF [18:44] <futureweasley> that's true, gingin [18:44] <Aislinn> its probably partly repaired, but will never work as well [18:44] <harryfreak359> Yeah [18:44] <harryfreak359> I am [18:44] <gryffindelle> hagrid could have used this spell to water the plants [18:44] <Spown> didn't ron use magitape on his? [18:45] <futureweasley> spellotape [18:45] <Aislinn> spello-tape [18:45] <gingin77> yeah but it didnt work correctly [18:45] <Spown> yes [18:45] <Breanna> ooh spellotape [18:45] *** Tanaqui has joined #lounge [18:45] <Expelliarmas> yes, spellotape didn't work real well, though [18:45] <futureweasley> and it wasn't a good thing [18:45] <Poet> Too true, I was just puzzling over if it was a spell he'd normally used [18:45] <Aislinn> hi tanaqui [18:45] <Spown> so it can be reapaired to a level [18:45] <gryffindelle> hi tanaque [18:45] <gryffindelle> *tanaqui [18:45] *** Dumbleforth has quit [Bye] [18:45] <Tanaqui> hi--what's the question? [18:45] <harryfreak359> hi [18:45] <gingin77> well it can be repared to a level.. but it has the possiblity of causing problems like Ron's did and backfiring and stuff [18:45] <Spown> if a wand has a minor damage, a spellotape should do the trick [18:45] <Aislinn> we're talking about Hagrid's ability to cast the aguamenti spell [18:45] <futureweasley> new question coming at you [18:45] <futureweasley> Alohamora is a charm used to open doors. Hermione used it in PS/SS and again in PoA. Colloportus might have been used in PS/SS to seal the door. Colloportus was used in OP during the battle. Why wasn’t some counter to Alohamora used in PS/SS to seal the door to Fluffy? [18:46] <Aislinn> and whether his wand was at least partly repaired [18:46] <Expelliarmas> Well, Ron's wasn't artfully repaired. [18:46] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Off topic - Carpe, Poet - Trix says 'hi' [18:46] <Spown> ahh, good question [18:46] <gingin77> becasue Dumbledore wanted Harry to go after the stone [18:46] *** JohnTLC has joined #lounge [18:46] <Poet> Hi Trix wink [18:46] <gingin77> hello John [18:46] <futureweasley> I agree gingin [18:46] <Poet> Hi John [18:46] <futureweasley> hi John [18:46] <harryfreak359> yeah good question [18:46] <gryffindelle> hi John [18:46] <Poet> Happy.... [18:46] <futureweasley> happy early birthday [18:46] <JohnTLC> Helo ello! [18:46] <JohnTLC> thanks smile [18:46] <Tanaqui> my guess is also everyone doubted students would actually get to fluffy in the first place [18:46] <gryffindelle> happy early b-day [18:46] <Aislinn> It could have been - they used colloportus in the DoM, but one of the DEs was able to open it with alohomora [18:47] <Expelliarmas> well, DD may have wanted Harry to go after the stone, but just about anyone could have gotten in to visit with Fluffy using Alohamora [18:47] <harryfreak359> yeah Aislinn [18:47] <gryffindelle> yeah, aislinn [18:47] <Poet> Perhaps it wasn't sealed so Hagrid could go visit the dog more easily too [18:47] <Spown> good point [18:47] <Spown> could be [18:47] <Spown> after all the dog has to eat [18:47] <Tanaqui> oooo--i like poet's point [18:47] <futureweasley> I think Gingin is right, DD wanted Harry to go for the stone [18:47] <harryfreak359> lol, that could be true [18:47] <Angelyka13> Im sure they figured once a student saw fluffy they wouldnt go in [18:47] <Spown> little lag here [18:47] <gryffindelle> I doubt it poet [18:47] <gingin77> if Dumbledore had wanted no one to go after the stone he would have put it on a shelf in his office.. just kidding... no Dumbledore wanted Harry to go after the stone.. He gave so many clues and opportunity for Harry to figure it out in that book.. [18:47] <Aislinn> he did seem to set him up to go after it [18:48] <Spown> yeah [18:48] <Spown> i had the same feeling [18:48] <harryfreak359> yeah [18:48] <Poet> And, yes, I agree that he needed people to go after the stone [18:48] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has joined #lounge [18:48] <futureweasley> and DD was genuinely excited when he heard that Harry had taken the bait [18:48] <gingin77> ello wagga [18:48] <harryfreak359> hi wagga [18:48] <futureweasley> hi Wagga [18:48] <Spown> hi wagga [18:48] <gingin77> exactly future [18:48] <Tanaqui> i also would suspect that having fluffy right behind the door would keep the charms/spells to a minimum on the door anyway [18:48] <Aislinn> the alohamora charm confuses me though, because it seems like there is no point in locking anything, if that is all it takes to open it back up [18:48] <harryfreak359> yeah future [18:48] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn [18:48] <Aislinn> hey wagga [18:48] <gingin77> there are ways around alohamora [18:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi everyone, Popped in for half an hour before starting work [18:48] <harryfreak359> it is confusing [18:49] <Spown> other reason could be that Jo hasnt' come up with the spell yet, that's why she used Alohomora [18:49] <Tanaqui> well, you know what they say about locks--they keep the honest people out... [18:49] <futureweasley> hence the use of "Bombarda" in the movies [18:49] <harryfreak359> kind of a waste of time [18:49] <Aislinn> like what gingin? [18:49] <Breanna> there are some locks alohamora wont' undo [18:49] <gingin77> Bombarda.. lol [18:49] <Poet> Thus the need to have passwords and blood offerings and such for some "doors" [18:49] <futureweasley> the filmmakers didn't think Alohamora made sense either [18:49] <harryfreak359> oh yeah, there are some [18:49] <Spown> yes, poet [18:49] <Expelliarmas> well, it seems that when they really want to lock something up, they use a counter to Alohamora; the protection on Umbridge's door [18:49] <Aislinn> the only one we saw was that one room in the ministry [18:49] <gingin77> what Breanna said. there are some doors that Alohamora wont work on.. Umbridges is one [18:49] <Aislinn> that didn't prevent opening though, just set off an alarm [18:49] *** JohnTLC has quit [Bye] [18:49] <Aislinn> right? [18:49] <Spown> yep [18:49] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That's odd. I have found the names of some of those spells as darned good passwords. [18:49] <gingin77> obviously the doors to the common rooms are another example [18:50] <Spown> i think we scared john [18:50] <futureweasley> lol [18:50] <futureweasley> probably Spown [18:50] <gingin77> lol [18:50] <gingin77> or he was lagging [18:50] <Poet> The love room seems to require a certain question or phrase, yes. Even the 12 doors in the circular room in the DoM seemed to respond to compands [18:50] <Spown> anyway, alohomora is a low-level spell that's used to unlock normally-locked things-just for convinience [18:50] *** JillianS642 has joined #lounge [18:50] <Aislinn> the love room was an exception [18:50] <gryffindelle> hi jillian [18:50] <Aislinn> do we know that spown? [18:50] <futureweasley> I wonder what WILL open the "love room" [18:50] <harryfreak359> hi jillian [18:50] <JillianS642> Hey hey! Thanks to whomever put in the timeserver! [18:50] <JillianS642> (the link, that is) [18:50] <gingin77> Harry kissing Ginny in fron tof it [18:50] <Spown> it's a nice theory smile [18:50] <gingin77> lol [18:51] <Aislinn> you're welcome! [18:51] <gingin77> just kidding [18:51] * futureweasley gags [18:51] <futureweasley> lol [18:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It seems that fast as one spell is mastered, it is countered by another, which then needs a third to master it. [18:51] <harryfreak359> lol [18:51] <Breanna> hah [18:51] <harryfreak359> brbr [18:51] <futureweasley> Apparition is a nonverbal spell which requires the wizard to focus on destination, determination, and deliberation. Apparition seems to be quite uncomfortable, so much so, that Harry prefers flying on a broomstick. It seems to become more difficult as the distance increases. It can’t be used within Hogwarts (unless you’re an elf). What do you think of this spell? [18:51] <gryffindelle> yeah [18:51] <gingin77> therefore wagga you are saying that magic is always evolving [18:52] <Spown> I wish I could apparate [18:52] <gryffindelle> I do not consider it a spell [18:52] <Aislinn> most of the means of travel seem quite uncomfortable [18:52] <gingin77> Apparation is a spell.. i thought it was an ability [18:52] <Aislinn> it is a spell [18:52] <Spown> and apparition IS an ability [18:52] <Expelliarmas> the lexicon lists apparation as a spell [18:52] <Angelyka13> as uncomfortable as it is ... I would prefer it to the 8 hour car ride to Maine! [18:52] <Poet> Not only is it nonverbal, but it seems to have no specific words associated with it [18:52] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I love it [18:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes. Even Snape said that about the Dark Arts. Maybe good magic evolves too. I'd describe apparition as an ability. [18:52] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> the thought that is [18:52] <gingin77> i cant see it as a spell [18:52] <gryffindelle> but I still think that it's awesome [18:52] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> think of how much time you could save smile [18:52] <Poet> So like overcoming a boggart it has the need for concentration on ideas [18:52] <Breanna> i have a navel piercing and the thought of it bothers me [18:52] <Aislinn> I would really like to be able to use it and avoid planes [18:52] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [18:53] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and airfare costs tongue [18:53] <Spown> actually i would prefer to be beamed out but that's just me. Apparition=awesome [18:53] <JillianS642> I've noticed that, too, Poet. Well worded though! [18:53] <gingin77> i agree with you aislinn... [18:53] <Expelliarmas> while an incantation is not required, the wizard must focus on his destination in his mind [18:53] <harryfreak359> back [18:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> OOh how I wish I could apparate to and from work! [18:53] <gingin77> i would apparate myself to Prophesy.. lol [18:53] <Spown> wb [18:53] <Angelyka13> hmm i would say animagus is an ability... apparition can be learned so spell [18:53] <Tanaqui> i think it's a spell--though i can't come up with any sort of reasoning [18:53] <Breanna> it would be great for vacation...destination...china! [18:53] <harryfreak359> kind of occlumency...in a way [18:53] <CarpeDiem> Would apparation work without a wand? WOuld it still be a "spell" [18:53] <CarpeDiem> if it did? [18:53] <gingin77> animagus could be learned as well [18:53] <gingin77> it is taught [18:53] <Poet> So the more difficult the spell, it seems the more it depends on things that a wand can't provide [18:53] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [18:53] <JillianS642> Maybe because it's non-verbal, that's why you have to be 17 to be taught it ... [18:53] <Tanaqui> did we define what a 'spell' is? [18:54] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No indication wand needed for apparition. It sounds something like teleporting. [18:54] <gingin77> Padfoot, Prongs, and Wormtail learned how to become animangi [18:54] <JillianS642> intriguing, poet [18:54] <Aislinn> it is a potentially dangerous spell - has a lot of potential for damage [18:54] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [18:54] <Spown> good point gingin [18:54] <Aislinn> that is why they wait until the kids are of age [18:54] <gingin77> yeah that splinching sounds pritty bad [18:54] <Spown> lol [18:54] <Expelliarmas> splinching sounds like it'd be awful [18:54] <Poet> And you can only do it on yourself, so doesn't seem exactly like a spell to me [18:54] <Spown> it does [18:54] <harryfreak359> . . . [18:54] <harryfreak359> testing [18:54] <Angelyka13> well regardless... i still consider it a spell [18:54] <Aislinn> and sending your parts who knows where! [18:54] <gingin77> well you can side along [18:54] <Aislinn> it is a spell angel [18:54] <Expelliarmas> actually, you can have side-along apparation [18:54] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I'd imagine becoming animagi could go very wrong. Just like the polyjuice potion did. [18:54] <Breanna> splinching reminds me of the Philadelphia Experiment [18:55] <harryfreak359> yeah splinching sounds horrible [18:55] <Spown> lol [18:55] <futureweasley> if you were the best flyer in the world, and it made you feel more free than you'd ever felt in your life, wouldn't you prefer that to just about anything, no matter how "convenient" the alternative was? [18:55] <futureweasley> I think that Harry's preference to his broom is just that...yes, apparition might be "painful", but it's dead useful [18:55] <futureweasley> I love that Ron splinted his eyebrow...that was too funny [18:55] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [18:55] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [18:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> ever see a film or read a book called 'The fly'? [18:55] <Expelliarmas> the wizard could also end up in some miserable place like a volcano [18:55] <harryfreak359> lol future I loved that too...it was soo funny [18:56] <gingin77> eyebrow.. lol [18:56] <gingin77> classic [18:56] <Aislinn> yes, wagga - a good example of what could go horribly wrong [18:56] <harryfreak359> an eyebrow LOL [18:56] <Spown> if i loved lyingo na broom-sure [18:56] <Breanna> ep [18:56] <Spown> *flying [18:56] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [18:56] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [18:56] <Spown> wb [18:56] <Aislinn> wb FW [18:56] <gingin77> wb.. whats going on Future [18:56] <harryfreak359> wb future...having problems? [18:57] <Expelliarmas> Don't know that Harry would prefer flying very long distances, I think he just has to get used to apparation [18:57] <Aislinn> it seems like there are limitation to apparition [18:57] <Spown> yeah [18:57] <gryffindelle> yeah [18:57] <harryfreak359> yep [18:57] <Spown> i wouldn't try to apparate on Mars... [18:57] <Aislinn> It seemed like Harry couldn't breathe while he was apparating [18:57] *** futureweasley has quit [Bye] [18:57] <Expelliarmas> the longer the distance, the harder it is to apparate; you'd probably use a portkey [18:57] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I wonder if Harry will get the chance ot get his licence. [18:57] <harryfreak359> that would be scary spown [18:57] <Aislinn> so I don't know if you would be able to use it for really long distances [18:57] <gingin77> i doubt it wagga [18:57] <gingin77> i think he is just gonna do it This post has been edited by Poet: Sep 6 2006, 08:51 PM |
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[18:58] <Angelyka13> im sure they will get their licenses
[18:58] <Spown> he's going to be an outlaw [18:58] <Expelliarmas> didn't Harry already apparate without a license? i don't think he sets a lot of store by ministry requirements [18:58] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> What about Ron? He only splinched an eyebrow [18:58] <Poet> I think so too. I wonder how much harder it is to envision some place you've never been. [18:58] <gryffindelle> I think he will [18:58] <Aislinn> probably not until after he accomplishes his mission, wagga [18:58] *** futureweasley has joined #lounge [18:58] <gingin77> I just dont see the time available for harry to get it [18:58] <gryffindelle> that was side-along, expel [18:58] *** WitByondMeasure has joined #lounge [18:58] <futureweasley> sorry 'bout that [18:58] <gingin77> yeah he did.. he did it with Dumbledore after the cave [18:58] <CarpeDiem> Aislinn, yes and there are also nicities that co along with apparation. When to, how close to get to a house you are visiting, etc... [18:58] <Aislinn> hi wit [18:58] <Expelliarmas> when he brought DD back from the cave? [18:58] <Angelyka13> they have time for a wedding [18:58] <gryffindelle> hi wit [18:58] <Aislinn> right carpe [18:59] <futureweasley> The Bat-Bogey Hex enlarges an opponent’s “bogies” to bat-size, gives them wings, and then sets them to attacking the opponent’s face. This is a Ginny Weasley specialty and she used it effectively against Draco in OP and Zacharias Smith in HBP. What did you think of this hex? [18:59] <Tanaqui> disgusting [18:59] <Expelliarmas> hilarious [18:59] <JillianS642> but funny. [18:59] <Poet> The craziest hex ever [18:59] <gingin77> that its awesome [19:00] <Spown> disgusting is the best word [19:00] <futureweasley> yes, it's a nasty one [19:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In an emergency a terrific idea. [19:00] <harryfreak359> hehe abosuletly funny [19:00] <gryffindelle> It's disgusting, but that makes it even more funny and effective [19:00] <Tanaqui> totally made me think of super diaper baby and his enemy [19:00] <JillianS642> How on earth do you even discover such a hex? [19:00] *** riefvly has joined #lounge [19:00] <Poet> Seems to be a mixture of transfiguration and something else [19:00] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I thought it was brilliant [19:00] <Angelyka13> sounds like one she used a lot growing up with boys [19:00] <futureweasley> and it's totally characteristic of Ginny [19:00] <harryfreak359> I loved it [19:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Malfoy taking all their wands an emergency [19:00] <gingin77> exactly future [19:00] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Saucy [19:00] <Breanna> what if you have no bogeys... [19:00] <gingin77> thats why i like it so much [19:00] <Aislinn> it shows her feisty personality - she had to stand up to all those older brothers after all [19:00] <gingin77> i would love to use it in a jam [19:00] <harryfreak359> yep exactly Aislinn [19:00] <futureweasley> can't you see her coming up with that one after Fred and George played a particularly nasty prank on her that involved a bat? [19:00] <Expelliarmas> wonder who taught it to her? [19:00] <JillianS642> It's an awfully immature seeming hex (a la cooties) ... nice that it's not too evil though! [19:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> A jammy nose? Ewww. [19:00] <gingin77> do we know the incantation for it or no? [19:01] <gingin77> my guess would be charlie or bill [19:01] <WitByondMeasure> Fred or George, maybe [19:01] <Poet> It's a great defensive spell, because you don't need to have anything else beside your wand handy and it's hard to get away from [19:01] <Aislinn> I think so too, gingin [19:01] <Spown> yep, poet [19:01] <Angelyka13> hmm what to do what to do... well unfortunatly... I think I am choosing Bones tonight [19:01] <gingin77> no the twins wouldnt have given something that usefull up to her i doubt [19:01] <Angelyka13> see you all soon [19:01] <harryfreak359> bye [19:01] <Spown> bye [19:01] <Angelyka13> bye smile [19:01] <gingin77> bye angel [19:01] <Aislinn> it would totally distract the person you cast it on, giving you a chance to get away [19:01] <futureweasley> bye Angel [19:01] <harryfreak359> i love that show! angel [19:01] <Breanna> you have dry sinuses? [19:01] <Angelyka13> well its starting now [19:01] <JillianS642> by Angelyka! [19:01] <JillianS642> bye [19:02] <harryfreak359> byebye [19:02] <JillianS642> eep. [19:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye [19:02] <futureweasley> yes, Aislinn...that it would [19:02] *** Angelyka13 left #lounge [] [19:02] <gryffindelle> lagging... [19:02] <futureweasley> I can't imagine a bat flying out of my nose... [19:02] <Breanna> wow super lag [19:02] <gingin77> i can and i laugh every time i imagine it [19:02] <futureweasley> it's about as nasty as having slugs fly from your mouth [19:02] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yes Bre [19:02] <Spown> conclusion-flying bogers: disgusting but effective [19:02] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and juddery [19:02] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle left #lounge [] [19:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> A good spell to use against Snivellus [19:02] *** Tanaqui left #lounge [] [19:02] <Expelliarmas> sounds awfully painful to have a bat flying out of one's nose; but Draco and Zacharias deserved it! [19:02] <gingin77> yes wagga [19:02] <gryffindelle> yeah [19:02] <Aislinn> sure did expie [19:02] <WitByondMeasure> That curse would hurt, wouldn't it? Eep... [19:03] <Poet> Someone who came up with the spell may have been a professional dueler or something... or was creating whole groups of spells like this [19:03] <Expelliarmas> is it a curse, though? [19:03] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle has joined #lounge [19:03] <harryfreak359> it is a hex [19:03] <WitByondMeasure> A hex, actually [19:03] <gingin77> hex [19:03] <WitByondMeasure> Oh, sorry [19:03] <JillianS642> interesting, Poet [19:03] <riefvly> hex [19:03] <Expelliarmas> it causes damage, but it's not lasting [19:03] <gingin77> wb gfab [19:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> ...and when I come back...no one is listed [19:03] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> what is the difference between a spell and a hex? [19:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> it's saying 'no channel [19:03] <CarpeDiem> Agreed Poet, it sounds like a variation on a Fred and George prank. smile [19:03] <Poet> It's definitely one of those hexes for revenge [19:03] <JillianS642> I find the idea of a professional dueller particularly intriguing - you'd have to know so much! [19:03] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> but I can see people's entries [19:04] <futureweasley> The Bond of Blood is an ancient magic formed when a person sacrifices him/herself for a family member out of love. It was Dumbledore who cast this charm on baby Harry. Petunia sealed the charm when she agreed to accept Harry into her home. Why didn’t Voldemort anticipate the invocation of this charm? [19:04] <gingin77> then just keep chatting gfab [19:04] <Expelliarmas> the intention behind the spell, the level of malevolence changes it from a charm, to a jinx, to a hex, to a curse [19:04] <Aislinn> we can see you gfab [19:04] <Spown> i think LV did [19:04] <harryfreak359> I know what you are going through gfab [19:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I can see no one [19:04] <gryffindelle> is it really a charm? [19:04] <Spown> he would've tried to attack [19:04] <gingin77> because he is ignorant to magic that he thinks is weak.. he thinks love is weak.. so therefore any magic that useus love is usless to him and insignificant [19:04] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Because he had no blood relations available who acknowledged him [19:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Voldemort does not put much stock into the emotion of love [19:05] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and how powerful it is [19:05] <Spown> yep [19:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> And had murdered those still alive [19:05] <futureweasley> LV says it himself, he didn't think of "old magic". [19:05] <Spown> LV is heartless...literaly [19:05] <harryfreak359> yep [19:05] <harryfreak359> he is... [19:05] <gryffindelle> yeah [19:05] <WitByondMeasure> Literally? [19:05] <Poet> He likes to fight and cause damage. He was going there to battle and kill - and to get past any spells in place.... [19:05] <Spown> yes, sorry [19:05] <CarpeDiem> Voldemort sees muggles as powerless. I doubt he would have thought of Petunia at all. Also, a bond involving love may be outside his realm of study. he may have not even known about it. [19:05] <Spown> i'm not american and my english is bad [19:05] <Aislinn> his biggest weakness - underestimating those types of "good" spells [19:05] <futureweasley> he should have anticipated it, but he was too arrogant to think that someone could "best" him [19:05] <CarpeDiem> Agreed Aislinn [19:06] <Aislinn> no problem spown [19:06] <futureweasley> arrogance and ignorance, really [19:06] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> correct Aislinn - right on [19:06] <harryfreak359> agree aislinn [19:06] <Spown> quick question-does LV know where Harry lives??? [19:06] <futureweasley> I think your english is fine [19:06] <gingin77> Voldemort is arrogant... therefore he doesnt think things all the way through [19:06] <gingin77> no [19:06] <gingin77> i cant see that he does [19:06] <Aislinn> he sneers at that type of magic when he comes to ask Dumbledore for the job [19:06] <futureweasley> no gingin? [19:06] <Poet> And he usually doesn't give people a chance to live - unless he thinks they are corruptable [19:06] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> with arrogance brings short-sightedness [19:06] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It seems a few people do. Dobby, dementors, Mrs Figg... [19:06] <Aislinn> and clearly still has not learned his lesson [19:06] <futureweasley> I just didn't think he could touch the house [19:06] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he's not a whole picture sort of dude [19:07] <gingin77> No to the fact that i dont think voldie knows where harry lives [19:07] <futureweasley> Malfoy seems to know that his "muggle" aunt and uncle take care of him [19:07] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not at the moment. But in Book 7? [19:07] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he thinks INSIDE the box smile [19:07] <Spown> LV can be very stupid at times but has the best jokes [19:07] <gingin77> So [19:07] <Poet> I agree GGAB. Voldemort's chess skills are lacking. [19:07] <WitByondMeasure> He's a bit fickle too. And evil. That's a bad mix. [19:07] <futureweasley> it seems to me that is pretty common knowledge [19:07] <gryffindelle> I think lv does know, but Harry cannot be harmed inside that house [19:07] <Aislinn> after his birthday, when the protection is lifted, voldie and the DEs could attack him at Privet Drive [19:07] <gingin77> i just had a theory and it was debunked in my train of thought [19:07] <harryfreak359> he is just plain evil [19:07] <futureweasley> I'm just saying is all...it strikes me as odd that he wouldn't know [19:08] <harryfreak359> who is somewhat ignorant of the power of love [19:08] <gryffindelle> *knows [19:08] <Spown> does he really think INSIDe the box though? He thought of a way towards immortality... [19:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I don't think LV stupid. Machiavellian, yes. Doesn't understand that 2 can play at that game [19:08] <Expelliarmas> #4 privet drive might be unplottable? [19:08] <futureweasley> lol, that happens to me constantly gingin [19:08] <Aislinn> I think he might know generally, but can't touch him there [19:08] <futureweasley> hey, Expie, there's an idea [19:08] *** stupifiant_horcri has joined #lounge [19:08] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think his thinking is very linear Spown [19:08] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [19:08] <Aislinn> hi stupifiant [19:08] <gingin77> Expell.. thats what i was thinking or the fedelus charm (spelled so wrong) but people can find thehouse [19:08] <Aislinn> hi fawkes [19:08] <futureweasley> hi fawkes28 [19:08] <Spown> wb, fawkes! [19:08] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he oesn't anticipate errors in his plans [19:08] <stupifiant_horcri> Hi! [19:08] <gingin77> like the neighbors an see it and stuff [19:08] <gingin77> so it debunked in my head [19:08] <gryffindelle> I doubt it expel [19:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Also believes there is no good or evil, only power and those too weak to use it [19:08] <fawkes28> hello all [19:08] <Poet> Hi fawkes [19:09] <gryffindelle> wb fawkes [19:09] <gingin77> hey fawkes [19:09] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> despite the fact he's been outsmarted before [19:09] <futureweasley> good quote Wagga! [19:09] <JillianS642> Darn, I was enjoying the pink [19:09] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi fawkes [19:09] <fawkes28> lol [19:09] <stupifiant_horcri> -ish thinking of some thing for a filk- [19:09] <Expelliarmas> LV doesn't conceive he could ever be wrong, and something as insignificant as love is not worthy of his attention [19:09] <JillianS642> Ah well, someone has to be ugly purple [19:09] <fawkes28> what is the curent question? [19:09] <Spown> actually soetimes I also believe there is no good or evil in the real wrold...only power [19:09] <fawkes28> *current [19:09] <Spown> but power corrupts [19:09] <stupifiant_horcri> hmmm, I wonder if there are more than 3 Unforgivables [19:09] <Aislinn> we are talking about the love protection on Harry at Privet Drive, fawkes [19:10] <fawkes28> thanks [19:10] <Poet> Why did n't Voldemort anticipate the bond of blood [19:10] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [19:10] <gingin77> i think Sectumsempra should be made an unforgivable [19:10] <stupifiant_horcri> Maby Petunia will sacrifice herself like Lilly did. [19:10] <gryffindelle> hi dumbledebbie [19:10] <harryfreak359> hi fawkes! [19:10] <Spown> nobody really knows about Sectumsempra though [19:10] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> the power that is associated with evil does not measure up to the power that is associated with love and LV did not anticipate this [19:10] <Expelliarmas> well folks, thanks for the chat, but it's time to let my students into class. see you on saturday. [19:10] <gingin77> i dobut it stupifiant [19:10] <Spown> only SNpae and harry so far [19:10] <futureweasley> I don't think Petunia is capable fo that type of sacrifice [19:10] <harryfreak359> bye expel! [19:10] <Spown> *snape [19:10] <DumbleDebbie> hiya [19:10] <Poet> Bye! [19:10] <gingin77> later expell [19:10] <Aislinn> right gfab [19:10] <CarpeDiem> Bye Expell! [19:10] <fawkes28> i don't think so either future [19:10] <Aislinn> bye expie! [19:10] <futureweasley> The Bubble-Head Charm encloses the head of the caster with a bubble of breathable air. Cedric and Fleur used it in GOF within the Lake. Students in OP used it when walking the corridors due to the release of dungbombs and stink pellets. What did you think of this charm and its use in those two books? [19:10] *** jmish has joined #lounge [19:10] <gingin77> well when people find out about it spown [19:10] <stupifiant_horcri> yeah, just a theory though [19:10] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [19:11] <gryffindelle> bye expel [19:11] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> no Petunia wouldn't do such a thing. I think Hagrid would though. [19:11] <gryffindelle> hi jmish [19:11] <jmish> hello [19:11] <Aislinn> seems like a very useful charm FW [19:11] <stupifiant_horcri> Yeah, I love Hagrid. -huggles- [19:11] <futureweasley> yes Wagga...he has the biggest heart! [19:11] <gingin77> ell for the underwater thing.. genius.. for walking through the corridors very very funny [19:11] <JillianS642> I always wondered if it acted like a filter or something because otherwise you run out of air, no? [19:11] <Spown> interesting spell [19:11] <futureweasley> I love the "bubblehead" charm [19:11] <JillianS642> you'd give yourself CO2 poisoning [19:11] <fawkes28> i thought it was neat [19:11] <Poet> This is a very useful charm. I wonder what the bubble is made of. [19:11] <stupifiant_horcri> my eyes hurt. >.< [19:11] <gryffindelle> I think that its really cool [19:11] <Breanna> i want a bubble head when i go to class...some people stink so badly@1 [19:11] <Aislinn> it must have replenishing air jillian [19:11] <gingin77> Jill.. i think its an actual bubble of air [19:11] <WitByondMeasure> The Bubble Head charm could protect you from... poisonous gas? [19:11] <gingin77> thats how it was described underwater [19:11] <Aislinn> as they used it for an hour underwater [19:11] <stupifiant_horcri> There should be a scourgify that can be used on people [19:11] <gingin77> as a bubble of air around teh face [19:11] <gingin77> the* [19:11] <DumbleDebbie> good point Jillian [19:12] <fawkes28> it probably could wit [19:12] <futureweasley> I thought it was really ingenious...the whole idea of using it to breath underwater [19:12] <stupifiant_horcri> so then dung could possibly get clean [19:12] <JillianS642> yeah, replenishing air, some sort of filter, whatever [19:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Protects against methane, water, and other noxious substances. [19:12] <harryfreak359> brb [19:12] <stupifiant_horcri> YAY BUBBLES! [19:12] <Spown> i think the bubblehead charm only increases the level of air you can hold in your mouth... [19:12] <DumbleDebbie> if it didn't have some sort of filter it'd be bad news [19:12] *** Hedwigger7 left #lounge [] [19:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> dungbombs are related to farts? [19:12] <WitByondMeasure> Do you think it could be used in book 7? [19:12] <futureweasley> right Dumbledebbie... [19:12] <stupifiant_horcri> yeah, for like, the hunting of the horcri [19:12] <gryffindelle> I think that it constantly replenishes the air inside it [19:12] <gingin77> i would guess that wagga.. [19:13] <Aislinn> seem to be wagga [19:13] <Spown> horcruxes, you mean... [19:13] <fawkes28> no i think it may have just been a fun little charm to show us [19:13] <futureweasley> if it wasn't recycling the CO2, it would be a problem [19:13] <Poet> hmm [19:13] <DumbleDebbie> underwater horcrux? [19:13] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Politer way of putting it [19:13] <futureweasley> it's possible that we will see the bubblehead charm again [19:13] <stupifiant_horcri> yeah, like LV put a horcrux in the BL [19:13] <gingin77> well i think they are actual bombs that smell like dung [19:13] <stupifiant_horcri> gtg soon [19:13] <futureweasley> I don't doubt it...it was dead useful in the Black Lake [19:13] <gryffindelle> maybe dumbledebbie [19:13] <Aislinn> BL? [19:13] <Spown> harry going underwater to search for a horcrus-interesting [19:13] <stupifiant_horcri> Black Lake [19:13] <fawkes28> but i dont think it will be of too much importance in the 7th book if we see it [19:13] <DumbleDebbie> blake lake [19:14] <futureweasley> no, it will be one of those "we get it because we've seen it already" things [19:14] <stupifiant_horcri> I wish i could meet Jo, and say "its horcri" [19:14] <Spown> lol [19:14] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> anyway, in book 7 LV getting legroom to do what he always wanted to do [19:14] <DumbleDebbie> it does seem to be more for humor than utility [19:14] <stupifiant_horcri> I would so DIE if I ever got to. [19:14] <WitByondMeasure> Voldemort might... what Horcrux would he hide down there, though? Something from one of the founders, or...? [19:14] <fawkes28> exactly dumbledebbie [19:14] <futureweasley> The twins have very impractical uses for many spells. In GOF, they used the Canary Transfiguration Hex on custard creams so whomever ate one temporarily changed into a huge canary. Poor Neville ate a canary cream and *poof* instant feathers. What did you make of their use of this hex on the canary creams? Did they have any malevolent intention behind the hex? Why or why not? [19:15] <stupifiant_horcri> got to go in a few seconds. -___-, stupid projects! [19:15] <gingin77> no it was funny [19:15] <gingin77> and it sells [19:15] <Aislinn> I don't think they are malevolent - just mischievous [19:15] <gingin77> its a practical joke... usualy no hard feelings... [19:15] <stupifiant_horcri> gotta go! Bye! See you all in the next chat! [19:15] <Spown> awsome spell! [19:15] <WitByondMeasure> It was all in good fun [19:15] <futureweasley> no, they are just being them [19:15] <Aislinn> they are big into practical jokes [19:15] <gryffindelle> yeah aislinn [19:15] <Poet> It was a chance to try things they'd sort of learned in school, but for their own entertainment [19:15] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No, at that stage they just did things for a laugh. They took the trouble to see that nobody hurt indefinitely [19:15] <Spown> you get o laugh AND flye [19:15] <gryffindelle> bye stupifiant [19:15] <DumbleDebbie> nah, they're just having fun. it didn't stay that way [19:15] *** stupifiant_horcri has quit [Bye] [19:15] <fawkes28> yes, they bring laughter, which i think they all will need in the 7th book [19:15] <Breanna> they are kind of....most practical jokes are...they are a laugh at someone else's expense.. [19:16] <futureweasley> I love when they do silly stuff that no one expects, then everyone becomes leary of everything they do [19:16] <Aislinn> and they actually use their impressive talents to create practical magic with spells after they open their shop [19:16] <gingin77> well who had to try them out to see if they worked breanna [19:16] <gingin77> they did [19:16] <WitByondMeasure> Ha... I just imagined Voldy being vanquished by turning into a canary... [19:16] <futureweasley> I think they are extremely gifted in the art of manipulation [19:16] <gingin77> haha wit [19:16] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That is the problem with Umbridge. Theory is all very well but useless without application. [19:16] <gryffindelle> lol, wit [19:16] *** jmish has quit [Bye] [19:16] <gingin77> genius wagga [19:16] <futureweasley> they can take something and morph it into something almost unrecognizable [19:16] <fawkes28> they also know their audience, which makes them very successful [19:16] <DumbleDebbie> turn him into a canary and set Crookshanks on him? ;) [19:16] <Spown> I think the Weasley twins should open a defensive shop. They were kind of doing it already in book 6 [19:16] <Breanna> right...but i'm saying the hex itself and what they did with it is for a somewhat malevolent purpose because it is intended for a laugh at someone else's expense [19:17] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> sorry - hopefully no one has said this already - just coming back - I think the twins are brilliant - they don't do things with evil intentions in mind - they do things for entertainment value [19:17] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Harry, Ron & Hermione constantly applying schoolwork to their adventures. F & G also do that to their practical jokes [19:17] <Poet> Well, you could use it for mild cases of revenge - without starting an all out war [19:17] <fawkes28> but that could be used for bad spown [19:17] <futureweasley> I was just thinking that Fawkes [19:17] <DumbleDebbie> wasn't Neville laughing too? [19:17] <Spown> dark wizard buying the defensive stuff? [19:17] <futureweasley> case in point, peruvian darkness powder [19:17] <fawkes28> they wouldnt mean to of course [19:17] <Aislinn> agree with ou completely gfab [19:17] <gingin77> Breanna.. the twins wernt beeing vindictive to Neville.. they were having some fun... Neville laughed as well [19:17] <WitByondMeasure> It could... but F&G don't think about that [19:17] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In HBP we see how even joke things can be applied to more practical uses, even dangerously so. [19:18] <Aislinn> all practical jokes have an edge to them [19:18] <Aislinn> but the intent is not to hurt [19:18] <Spown> sorry guys but I have to go [19:18] <Aislinn> bye spown [19:18] <Breanna> no no i'm not saying to neville...i'm just saying in general the spell is malevolent and so are the canary creams [19:18] <Spown> c ya on Saturday! [19:18] <CarpeDiem> See ya Spown [19:18] <gingin77> the intent is to laugh ais [19:18] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Bye. [19:18] <fawkes28> bye [19:18] <Spown> bye [19:18] <gingin77> bye spown [19:18] <futureweasley> they think, they just don't have the ability of "foresight". Maybe they should hire Trelawney as a product consultant [19:18] <WitByondMeasure> Goodbye [19:18] <gryffindelle> bye spown [19:18] <Poet> Yes, and I think they'd almost never use it if the person was telling them not to, so not for purposes of bullying [19:18] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [19:18] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL F/W [19:18] <gingin77> dont get me started on trelawney [19:18] <DumbleDebbie> I agree gingin [19:18] <Aislinn> right poet [19:18] <DumbleDebbie> lol [19:19] <fawkes28> well it comes down to choices again and how you use certain objects or products [19:19] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> what about Peruvian darkness powder? And those shield hats the MOM bought? [19:19] <gingin77> those sheild hats were genius [19:19] <futureweasley> they are brilliant ideas [19:19] <Aislinn> we see them use their spell work for practical and useful products, in their shop [19:19] <futureweasley> but sometimes ideas should be left to the imagination [19:19] <WitByondMeasure> I was just thinking about that... I wonder if there's a charm that'll help you see in darkness powder? [19:19] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Wagga - I think the Twins create to amuse and a lot of these inventions were very happy accidents [19:19] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Like unforgiveable curses? [19:19] <futureweasley> or, be monitored a little closer [19:20] <gingin77> have a feeling that the hand of glory got draco out of the darkness powder or something like that [19:20] <gingin77> right? [19:20] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> like most artists, their best works are accidents smile [19:20] <Aislinn> like what FW? [19:20] <Poet> People had needs. That room of items seemed to be creative ways to meet the needs of the war, while the other items were for "wants" (entertainment for instance). [19:20] <futureweasley> I would definitely catagorize the twins as "reckless" at times [19:20] <Poet> Both fighting the war in their own ways [19:20] <DumbleDebbie> but even something dangerous, if they know how it works, they can figure how to counter it [19:20] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes, that worked admirably with Hand of glory - gives light to the beholder [19:20] <fawkes28> therefore they should make new products only for the order [19:20] <futureweasley> theya re all about making the bucks these days...and they don't discriminate who they sell to. I just wish they would use some common sense when creating this stuff [19:20] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Not a big enough market [19:21] <WitByondMeasure> The twins are geniuses... they just apply themselves in a different field than most people [19:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I'm not so sure F/W [19:21] <WitByondMeasure> They could easily make a counter curse [19:21] <fawkes28> i think they will use more common sense, future [19:21] <Aislinn> the only thing that ended up being an issue was the Peruvian powder FW [19:21] *** Tanaqui has joined #lounge [19:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think they would be discriinatory [19:21] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That is the trouble. Make weapons and not only good people buy them, evil ones do too [19:21] <Breanna> i'd say the ministry and the order is a big enough market...and what about foreign ministries? [19:21] <Aislinn> I think you're being awfully hard on them for something that was not even their invention [19:21] <gingin77> the tiwns should be carefull who they sell too.. i think te darkness powder and shield stuff was only for the order and ministyr ggith? [19:21] <futureweasley> that doesn't mean that other creations aren't destined for bigger, and possibly badder uses [19:21] <gingin77> right* [19:21] <CarpeDiem> Hermione complimented them...which in itself speaks wonders about them. As others have said. They are talented, just use their talent in a different way. [19:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I don't think they'd sell to a DE - they probably sold to Draco because he was a harmless student [19:21] <Poet> Notice that You No Poo is entirely undiscretionary [19:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> or so they thought [19:22] <futureweasley> harmless...hmmm [19:22] <Poet> A good way to get themselve killed (ack!) [19:22] <Tanaqui> do we know that draco was the one to buy it? [19:22] <fawkes28> i agree with you future [19:22] <harryfreak359> okie, I'm back [19:22] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I use harmless only because that's how they would have seen him [19:22] <Aislinn> no we don't tanaqui - he could have gotten it from someone else [19:22] <DumbleDebbie> but if they don't make them, someone else will, and the good side will have no idea how to counter it [19:22] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> they know he's a git and a fool [19:22] <gingin77> i dont think the twins thought draco harmless [19:22] <gingin77> he is who got them banned from quidditch the year before [19:22] <harryfreak359> he doubt that too [19:22] <Aislinn> I actually can't see Narcissa going in there with Drraco, and he only got away from her long enough to sneak off to Borgin adn Burkes [19:22] <Tanaqui> exactly--anyone suspicious would have not been given a chance to buy stuff... [19:22] <WitByondMeasure> They have other people working in the shop, though, who don't know who Draco is [19:22] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I don't think they would have thought he was up to killing D [19:23] <gingin77> did they have mail order? [19:23] <CarpeDiem> The twins are no dummies though. They test their products first. I think the "draco incident" will open their eyes to misuse with future products. [19:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No they didn't. But if Draco did enter their shop Verity might have served him [19:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> they likely would have thought he wanted it for a prank [19:23] <gingin77> draco could have gotten that way... owl order i ment [19:23] <DumbleDebbie> yep, could've been mail order [19:23] <Aislinn> Fred and George have invented a lot of stuff that will be incredibly useful to the Ministry and the Order [19:23] <futureweasley> I don't think they marketed the darkness powder as a mail order item [19:23] <futureweasley> just love potions and stuff [19:23] <Aislinn> if someone else happens to get their hands on it, that is one of the risks of war [19:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Then he, too, would have been bypassing the blanket ban on WWW products [19:24] <futureweasley> Lupin taught Harry the Patronus Charm to ward off the dementors. The Patronus, when propery cast, takes the corporeal shape of some animal associated with the caster. Harry, a stag; Hermione, an otter; Ron, a Jack Russell terrier; Cho, a swan. Tonks’ patronus changed shapes and became wolf-like. What did you make of that? Do the shapes associated with the characters fit them? [19:24] <Tanaqui> somehow i can see the twins having 'wanted' posters in a staff-area, though--'don't sell to these people' [19:24] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [19:24] <gryffindelle> I think so [19:24] <gingin77> i think the animal has significance to what you think protects you [19:24] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette [19:24] <harryfreak359> I think so, the patronus has to have some powerful connnection to the wizard [19:24] <gryffindelle> hi pleshette [19:24] <Pleshette> Hey! [19:24] *** JillianS642 has quit [Bye] [19:24] <fawkes28> hey pleshette [19:24] <WitByondMeasure> I think Ron's fits him... he's loyal, like a dog [19:24] <harryfreak359> hi pleshette [19:24] <DumbleDebbie> yep, who knows the inner personality of the characters better than Jo? and she chose the forms [19:24] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Harry's and Ron's defitnitely do [19:24] <futureweasley> so what's up with the Jack Russell Terrier that is Ron's patronus? [19:24] <WitByondMeasure> And Hermione's otter... um... [19:24] <DumbleDebbie> hey Pleshette [19:25] <gingin77> Harry... James.... Tonks... Lupin... [19:25] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Herione's was a bit of a surprise [19:25] <Poet> I was actually quite surprised about the creatures. [19:25] <Aislinn> I think it definitely is related to the personality of the person [19:25] <gingin77> hermiones makes no sence to me whatsoever [19:25] <Tanaqui> i was surprised that tonks's patronus changed, but i suppose if your boggart can change... [19:25] <DumbleDebbie> Jo picked that cause that's what she'd pick for herself [19:25] <futureweasley> are you being sarcastic, GFAB about Hermione's patronus? [19:25] <Aislinn> Jo has a Jack Russell terrier [19:25] <DumbleDebbie> the otter for Hermione that is [19:25] <Poet> I'd imagined animals that were a bit more powerful - similar to Harry's stag [19:25] <DumbleDebbie> oops [19:25] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It is what gives the caster pleasure. Harry took pleasure in his dad. Hermione in play and Ron in loyalty [19:25] <fawkes28> well, harry's very well may change just like tonks did [19:25] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Otters, how I see them anyway, are jolly - they're hard working and that may be the connection [19:25] <futureweasley> I didn't know that, Aislinn [19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> they're always busy with something I mean [19:26] <gingin77> Fawkes i doubt seriously that Harrys patronus will ever change [19:26] <harryfreak359> yeah [19:26] <DumbleDebbie> I thought she had said she'd pick an otter [19:26] <Poet> Hard working and smart and cute (otters) ? [19:26] <futureweasley> otter is defined as a "weasel-like creature" [19:26] <gingin77> good point future [19:26] <Aislinn> i don't think it will either gingin [19:26] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione like that - always busy [19:26] <Breanna> beavers are busy a lot... [19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yep - they are very busy little cuties smile [19:26] <Poet> Too true futureweasley. A member of the weasel family - close. [19:26] <WitByondMeasure> On Mugglecast a while ago they pointed out that otters are related to weasels (or Weasleys? Hmm...) [19:26] <DumbleDebbie> good one FW [19:26] <futureweasley> I think Hermione sees Ron has the male protector in her life, just as Harry saw James as such [19:27] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Weasely family a big one. Ferrets related? [19:27] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> really F/W? [19:27] <Aislinn> that's a good point FW [19:27] <gingin77> and how tonks wants lupin to be her protector.... [19:27] <CarpeDiem> Otters are also very intelligent. Don't thaty bang shell on rocks to open them? Most animals don't use "tools" like that [19:27] <futureweasley> it all goes back to the Chess game [19:27] <futureweasley> lol [19:27] <Pleshette> Otters are my favorite animal smile [19:27] <Aislinn> yes, CD [19:27] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> ah [19:27] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> ah [19:27] <Poet> Yes CD [19:27] <harryfreak359> yeah carpie [19:27] * CarpeDiem wishes he could type this evening smile [19:27] <harryfreak359> carpe* [19:27] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Yes CD - they are one of only a few animals who use tools [19:28] <gingin77> gfab i wanted to say achoo next to your two ahs [19:28] <Aislinn> so intelligent and hardworking, but also playful [19:28] <futureweasley> so, what's Snape's patronus? [19:28] * harryfreak359 wishes she could type too [19:28] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Well echidnas are mine..smile [19:28] <futureweasley> and Dumbledores? [19:28] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL [19:28] <Poet> Jo won't tell us about Snape [19:28] <harryfreak359> dumbledores would be a phoenix [19:28] <Poet> She won't tell us his boggart either [19:28] <futureweasley> I think DD's is a phoenix [19:28] <gingin77> Dumbledore phoeniz [19:28] <DumbleDebbie> runspoor (the 3 headed snake for Snape) [19:28] <fawkes28> yes [19:28] <futureweasley> right, harryfreak..I agree [19:28] <gingin77> phoenix* [19:28] <WitByondMeasure> I think Snape's would be a bat [19:28] <Pleshette> I agree DumbleDebbie [19:28] <Poet> Or a spider [19:28] <WitByondMeasure> Or a rat. Something black and greasy. [19:28] <futureweasley> maybe Snapes is Prongs [19:28] <fawkes28> snape i would think something dark [19:28] <gingin77> i likethe snake [19:28] <futureweasley> ? [19:28] <harryfreak359> a bat....lol [19:28] <gingin77> ew.. no [19:29] <gingin77> prongs is harrys and harrys only [19:29] <Pleshette> A cockroach! [19:29] <Aislinn> and he apparently doesn't believe using the Patronus to repel dementors if the most effective means Poet [19:29] <Aislinn> which I found interesting [19:29] <futureweasley> I'm just saying because he was saved by James from the shrieking shack [19:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think Snape's patronus is getting people expelled [19:29] <Aislinn> I wonder what he uses instead [19:29] <gingin77> i would like to know what else there is to use against a dementor [19:29] <harryfreak359> lol wagga [19:29] <futureweasley> lol wagga [19:29] <DumbleDebbie> yea, a roach is good for Snape, he can survive anything [19:29] <harryfreak359> or Harry expelled really [19:29] <CarpeDiem> Could LV cast a Patronus? He's not really a happy kind of guy is he?? [19:29] <gingin77> hahaha wagga.. thats probably his happy memory [19:29] <gingin77> no [19:29] <futureweasley> I'd really love to know...maybe Snape can't produce a patronus [19:30] <gingin77> i think he can [19:30] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> wow F/W [19:30] <fawkes28> good question carpe [19:30] <DumbleDebbie> no happy thoughts? [19:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yep. It would be all his Christmasses come at once [19:30] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> perhaps [19:30] <gingin77> the order uses it to communicate... i doubt snape wouldnt be able to do one [19:30] <fawkes28> he may picture killing harry [19:30] <Pleshette> I think he could dig up a happy memory [19:30] <DumbleDebbie> how about when he finally got the DADA job? [19:30] <Pleshette> Exactly fawkes [19:30] <futureweasley> I'm not being mean...it's just that the guy is kind of miserable all the time [19:30] <gryffindelle> I wonder, carpe [19:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He remarked about Tonk's patronus [19:30] <futureweasley> yes, he's the one who noticed the shift [19:30] <WitByondMeasure> Because he knew why it changed [19:30] <Aislinn> that would work for him in the 6th year, yeah Debbie [19:30] <DumbleDebbie> doesn't it have to be a memory for a Patronus (not something imagined)? [19:31] <WitByondMeasure> I don't know... maybe just a happy though [19:31] <harryfreak359> hmm yeah I think dumbledebiie [19:31] <Tanaqui> i think tom riddle could have cast a patronus, but voldemort can't...he's too wrapped up in anger and hate [19:31] <WitByondMeasure> *thought [19:31] <Pleshette> Something experienced, like a memory [19:31] <futureweasley> you happiest feeling...it doesn't necessarily have to be real [19:31] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hmm - LV probably could cast a patronous - power makes him happy [19:31] <harryfreak359> don't really know though [19:31] <gingin77> yes future [19:31] <Poet> Hmm. Tonks' changed, perhaps how some people's wands change when they have to get new ones [19:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Unfortunately I'd better go....Work, you know. I'm on a late shift [19:31] <Aislinn> bye wagga! [19:31] <gingin77> later wagga [19:31] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf left #lounge [] [19:31] <Pleshette> Bye WWW [19:31] <Poet> bye [19:31] <fawkes28> voldemort may have another way to control the dementors besides patronus [19:31] <DumbleDebbie> tom's would probably be when he made his 1st horcrux [19:31] <CarpeDiem> See ya Wagga [19:31] <futureweasley> Avada Kedavra was the final Unforgivable Curse taught by Fake Moody. Voldemort killed the Potters with it. It backfired on Harry, blew up the house, and left him with a scar and Voldemort a wreck. Snape used it on Dumbledore. What do you make of this curse? Is it too easy to kill with words? Will any of the trio ever be able to cast it? Why or why not? [19:32] <Aislinn> I think that it looks easier than it actually is [19:32] <Pleshette> No I don't believe it's too easy [19:32] <DumbleDebbie> no, none of the trio will. it's not in them [19:32] <fawkes28> no it does not seem easy [19:32] <gingin77> the only member of the trio i see using it is Harry... but i dont think he ever will [19:32] <Poet> I wonder why it is so difficult to cast. [19:32] <Aislinn> I have a feeling it is actually a difficult spell to cast [19:32] <harryfreak359> Uh.... [19:32] <Breanna> they won't use it [19:32] <Aislinn> and requires a lot of determination [19:32] <futureweasley> well, Harry's tried to Crucio twice with no success [19:32] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> no - not easy at all - you have to intend it and really mean it [19:32] <Tanaqui> i think bellatrix had captured that--she said you have to mean it [19:32] <WitByondMeasure> You have to truly hate [19:32] <fawkes28> you have to really mean it [19:32] <Aislinn> and evil [19:32] <Pleshette> I think Harry could possiblly [19:32] <Poet> Perhaps beause the soul doesn't want to be removed from the body [19:32] <DumbleDebbie> harry has too much love in him [19:32] <futureweasley> I can't imagine that AK is going to be an easy one to pull off [19:32] <harryfreak359> I think Harry might [19:32] <DumbleDebbie> Where light is the darkness flees [19:33] <WitByondMeasure> I don't think he would [19:33] <gingin77> thats why i could never see him using it [19:33] <harryfreak359> how else is he going to kill Voldy with/ [19:33] <Aislinn> Harry will not be using the AK [19:33] <harryfreak359> ? [19:33] <fawkes28> voldemort doesnt even need to think about it now...he has become inhuman and so evil [19:33] <DumbleDebbie> he tried in OotP and Bella laughed at him [19:33] <Pleshette> True Debbie, but what about intent and desire [19:33] <futureweasley> I don't think Jo will make him a "murderer" in that sense [19:33] <Aislinn> that would so go against his greatest strength [19:33] <Poet> It means "let the thing be destroyed" = the connection between body and soul it seems [19:33] <CarpeDiem> It relates back to emotions. As Bella said you must really want to kill the person you are casting at. I don't see the trio doing anything but counter-curses and hexes. Killing is never a goal. [19:33] <WitByondMeasure> Maybe the purple thing that hit Hermione in book 5? [19:33] <futureweasley> true fawkes [19:33] *** riefvly has quit [Bye] [19:33] <gingin77> he is gonna use the love spell that hermione finds in a book... duh [19:33] <harryfreak359> *sigh* I guess I understand that [19:33] <futureweasley> lol gingin [19:33] <harryfreak359> lol [19:33] <WitByondMeasure> Or maybe he won't kill him at all [19:34] <Pleshette> Kill him with a hug [19:34] <DumbleDebbie> I think VM will be killed in the end much like he was by Lily (but w/o the horcrux lookhole this thing) [19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL [19:34] <futureweasley> maybe they'll conjure a dozen roses and a box of chocolates for him [19:34] <gingin77> future.. i love that statement.. and it seems i use it a lot in these now.. lol [19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> you beat me to it Plesh [19:34] <Tanaqui> harry's demonstrated that he doesn't need a big, impressive spell to succeed in whatever is before him [19:34] <Pleshette> Hee hee fw [19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> huggles of doom [19:34] <gryffindelle> I don't think that it's too easy, and I don't think any of the trio will ever be able to cast it [19:34] <harryfreak359> LOL future [19:34] <gingin77> ha ha future [19:34] <Pleshette> Yes gfab [19:34] <DumbleDebbie> someone offering their life in place of someone else and AK backfireing on Voldy [19:34] <fawkes28> if harry killed then his soul wouldnt be pure anymore...i don't think she would want that for him [19:34] <DumbleDebbie> *loophole [19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> killing him with love would be apt but unlikely smile [19:34] <Aislinn> right fawkes [19:35] <WitByondMeasure> Someone offering their life to save VOLDY! Gasp! [19:35] <gingin77> debbie i dont see history repeating itself there [19:35] <futureweasley> no, I don't think Harry will have a fractured soul when this is over [19:35] <gryffindelle> serious lagging... [19:35] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> me too gryff [19:35] <CarpeDiem> I wonder if there is not a counter to AK. A "love spell" that gives the target positive and happy thoughts. I think a conscience may be able to kill LV> [19:35] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> refreshing is not helping either [19:35] <DumbleDebbie> right Fawkes [19:35] <Pleshette> Maybe Snape will do it... [19:35] <gryffindelle> yeah carpe [19:35] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> possible CD [19:36] <Poet> You'd need the opposite of "let the thing be destroyed" [19:36] <futureweasley> there is talk that DD was trying to put LV's conscience back into him at the MoM [19:36] <Aislinn> do you think he has enough soul left for a conscience to squeeze in, CD? [19:36] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> what about... [19:36] <WitByondMeasure> I agree Carpe, no one could live with all that remorse. A concience could kill him [19:36] <DumbleDebbie> it'd be great symmetry though gingin smile [19:36] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> mending his severed soul - what's left of it [19:36] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I wonder what that would do [19:36] <fawkes28> if it can be mended [19:36] <gingin77> well the obvious opposite would be let the thing be created but that doenst seem to sound right to me [19:36] <Tanaqui> hmmm....anyone else read the amber spyglass? lyra and will have to defeat nothing by creating something [19:36] <futureweasley> I think if LV could actually FEEL all of the bad he's done, that alone would kill him [19:36] <Tanaqui> if i remember right [19:36] <fawkes28> yes i read it [19:36] <Aislinn> ooh - the opposite of destroying - that would be interesting [19:37] <gingin77> yeah debbie but it seems that it was too much of a one time event thing with Lily and Harry for it to be used again [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> that seems rather anticlimactic FW [19:37] <fawkes28> that's interesting, future [19:37] <WitByondMeasure> It's been enforced that Harry has love as a weapon, so I don't think he could ever hate enough to kill someone [19:37] <futureweasley> you're right, it is DD, but I think it would be very emotional [19:37] <Aislinn> I think LV is going to destroy himself, through his own evil actions [19:37] <harryfreak359> I don't think he would future [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> I'm convinced that's what's going to get Voldy. sacrificial love [19:37] <Pleshette> I can't imagine that a soul could be mended once destroyed [19:38] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hmmm [19:38] <gingin77> i say harry conjures a mirror in front of an AK that voldie sends at him [19:38] <Aislinn> I don't think so either Pleshette [19:38] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> fusion [19:38] <Poet> Also, we seem the Murlap Essence spilt in Book 5 when Harry is medicating his hand. Once the container was cracked the liquid couldn't be put back [19:38] <gingin77> ahh the reappearance of the two way mirror ... hahahahaha [19:38] <WitByondMeasure> LOL Gingin [19:38] <Pleshette> Rebound? [19:38] <Poet> So I personally don't think you could counter AK [19:38] <DumbleDebbie> good point Poet [19:38] <futureweasley> The Fidelius Charm, as explained by Flitwick in POA, is “An immensely complex spell involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it.” Have we seen the end of this charm, why or why not? [19:38] <gingin77> i think you could counter it with a mirror... obviously [19:38] <Tanaqui> sirius's mirror.... [19:39] <gingin77> no.. becasue Olivander is under it [19:39] <WitByondMeasure> Maybe Voldemort will see the error of his ways and then die... [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> nope, I think one has been put on Petunia, probably by DD [19:39] <gingin77> tanaqui i was joking before [19:39] <Tanaqui> me, too ;) [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> or maybe by Lily, she was a 'charming girl' [19:39] <futureweasley> one on Petunia, Dumbledebbie? [19:39] <Pleshette> Could be Petunia...interesting [19:39] <fawkes28> no i think this is an important charm..i think we will be seeing more highly complex charms [19:39] <Aislinn> Jo told us that it wouldn't end with the death of a character, so I don't think we have seen the end of this charm [19:39] <gingin77> tthat is a good one debbie [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> yep, what better place to hide a secret from Voldy than in the soul of a Muggle? [19:39] <WitByondMeasure> I don't think we've seen the end of the Fidelius charm. They need a secret keeper for the order HQ [19:40] <futureweasley> that's very interesting... [19:40] <gryffindelle> I don't think so, I think it will come back [19:40] <DumbleDebbie> he'd never look there, and Petunia has been living under blood protection for 16 years [19:40] <gingin77> Wit.. its covered with Dumbledore.. idont think the order is going to grow in number anymore [19:40] <futureweasley> I'm wondering if someone can be made a secret keeper and not know it [19:40] <Poet> I dont know if we'll see another one performed (or revealed to have been performed) but I for sure think we'll learn some more important info about one that was already done [19:40] <gingin77> No one can find #12 [19:40] <gingin77> except for the order [19:40] <futureweasley> like someone could make a small child a secretkeeper.... [19:40] *** MidnightPhoenix has joined #lounge [19:40] <fawkes28> i think they would have to know [19:40] <DumbleDebbie> If Petunia is a secret-keeper that would be 'more than meets the eye' but not her doing magic [19:41] <fawkes28> who are you thinkinf of fw? [19:41] <futureweasley> remember when the Weasley twins tried to make Ron take an UV? [19:41] <gingin77> what would petunia be secret keeper of [19:41] <WitByondMeasure> I wonder if there is aDeath Eater spy in the order [19:41] <futureweasley> I'm actually thinking about Neville [19:41] <Aislinn> we don't know how it is cast, but it seems like something that the person would have to actively participate in [19:41] <MidnightPhoenix> like snape was [19:41] <Pleshette> Doesn't the SK have to agree and grasp a hand while the spell is performed [19:41] <harryfreak359> *trying to think of something clever to say* [19:41] <DumbleDebbie> something key that we'd never be able to guess gingin [19:41] <Poet> I was under the impression that the secret keeper had to perform magic, so in my opinion the secret keeper needs to be a magical person [19:41] <Pleshette> Like we see in Spinner's End [19:41] <Aislinn> I think so too poet [19:41] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Plesh - that's the unbreakable vow but... [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> if they didn't know, couldn't they tell the secret by accident? [19:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> the secret thing might be similar [19:42] <Pleshette> Oh, right d'oh [19:42] * futureweasley is thoroughly confused about Secret Keeping [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> the knowledge would be in there and they wouldn't know they shouldn't spread it around [19:42] * Pleshette is too [19:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> the secretkeeper thing may be just as ritualistic though [19:42] * gryffindelle agrees wholeheartedly with futureweasley [19:42] <gingin77> the definition doenst say anything about being magical.. it says living soul [19:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> it's a binding spell like the vow [19:42] * harryfreak359 is also [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> Poet, it just says the secret is locked in a person's soul [19:42] <fawkes28> harry hasnt learned all these highly complex spells so we haven;t either sad [19:42] <futureweasley> I don't get it in regards to James and Lily, and I don't get how it would work if Petunia was a secret keeper [19:42] <MidnightPhoenix> i thought that they cant tell the secret, like their body wont let them [19:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> a 'woul' spell of sorts [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> Muggle's have soul's too. smile [19:43] <WitByondMeasure> I think they just die if they tell the secret [19:43] <fawkes28> peter told [19:43] <WitByondMeasure> brb [19:43] <fawkes28> and didnt die [19:43] <MidnightPhoenix> no, they dont die, thats an unbreakable vow [19:43] <WitByondMeasure> Oh, yes, you're right [19:43] <DumbleDebbie> DD tells the secret of #12 to whomever he wants [19:43] <gryffindelle> he was the secret keeper, fawkes [19:43] <futureweasley> yes they do, but could a muggle perform the necessary "magic" or decision making to become a secret keeper? [19:43] <Aislinn> but it needs to be taken in to their souls, and for that, they probably have to be magical [19:43] <gingin77> no... you cant speak it if your not the secret keeper.. [19:43] <gryffindelle> I don't think so, future [19:43] <gingin77> the secret keeper can tell anyone [19:43] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think the secret-keeper does the magic. I think they have magic done upon them [19:44] <futureweasley> as long as they give consent? [19:44] <MidnightPhoenix> i agree dd [19:44] <Poet> The secret keeper can tell whomever they want, but others don't have the ability to tell even if they want - it has no affect on revealing the hidden person or thing [19:44] <fawkes28> it's really the secret keeper that you need to trust [19:44] <DumbleDebbie> that's what I'm thinking FW [19:44] <Breanna> nice chat folks, i have homework...adios [19:44] <futureweasley> it's a good theory...I just don't understand it [19:44] *** Breanna has quit [Bye] [19:44] <Poet> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next WWW chat here: http://www.leakylounge.com/Topic-Poll-9-13-Wize-Wiz-t33004.html [19:44] <DumbleDebbie> bye [19:44] <gingin77> bye bre [19:44] <MidnightPhoenix> ive gotta go too [19:45] <futureweasley> when I say "it", I mean Secret Keeping [19:45] <MidnightPhoenix> bye [19:45] <gingin77> bye midnight [19:45] <gryffindelle> bye midnight [19:45] <futureweasley> bye Midnight [19:45] <Pleshette> Bye MP [19:45] <harryfreak359> bye [19:45] *** MidnightPhoenix left #lounge [] [19:45] <DumbleDebbie> well I was tyring to think of what 'more than meets the eye' might be FW [19:45] <gingin77> future did you figure out the stuff you needed from the previous live chat or do you still need to pm me? [19:45] <gryffindelle> I think she has information, dd [19:46] <gingin77> lag? [19:46] <futureweasley> Sectumsempra although not classified, is likely a curse given the harm it is intended to cause. It cuts the target and is intended for “enemies.” Unsurprisingly, it was created by Snape. What did you think of this curse? Why was Harry able to cast it? Why didn’t Snape include a counter to this curse? [19:46] <Poet> hmm [19:46] <DumbleDebbie> that's what I'm saying gryff, just that it's hard-wired magically inside her [19:47] <DumbleDebbie> 'cause Snape is a nasty git [19:47] <fawkes28> i think because you do not need hatred to cast it [19:47] <Pleshette> I think anyone can cast it right? [19:47] <gingin77> i think Harry's casting was accidental because he didnt know what it was going to do.. if he did knwo he would have never used it in that way... [19:47] <harryfreak359> How come it was "unsurprisingly" made by snape? laugh [19:47] <gryffindelle> maybe, dd [19:47] <Pleshette> True gingin [19:47] <Poet> I am so curious as to why he created it while still at Hogwarts. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd need at school [19:47] <DumbleDebbie> well, Harry probably wasn't thinking sweet nothings when he hit Malfoy with it [19:47] <harryfreak359> ooohhh...dear....I am tired... [19:47] <futureweasley> maybe Snape thought he DID need it at school [19:47] <fawkes28> well he hated james and sirius [19:47] <futureweasley> Snape is very "trenchcoat mafia" to me [19:47] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [19:47] <gryffindelle> it's not an unforgivable, hence it does not follow This post has been edited by Poet: Sep 6 2006, 08:47 PM |
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[19:48] <gingin77> but DD i dont see Harry using a curse like that on anyone ... infact he was horrified at what he did
[19:48] <fawkes28> he may have created it for them [19:48] <futureweasley> like he was plotting how he was going to get the evil wrong-doers in his life [19:48] <harryfreak359> Probably did [19:48] <Poet> Unless he created it after school but stoppped using that book after teaching for a year or so [19:48] <gingin77> he didnt want to kill draco.. he just wanted to retaliate [19:48] <Pleshette> Maybe after close encounter with Lupin wolf, for protection [19:48] <harryfreak359> and besides that was his DE days [19:48] <DumbleDebbie> is Sectumsempra registered somewhere? [19:48] *** Lizzieangel90 has joined #lounge [19:48] <futureweasley> true, Snape is all about revenge [19:48] <Poet> Pleshette - excellent idea [19:48] <gingin77> no.. its only in Snapes Potions book [19:48] <Poet> Hi Lizzie! [19:48] <DumbleDebbie> or are Snape and Harry the only one's who know it? [19:48] <futureweasley> hi Lizzie [19:48] <harryfreak359> hi lizzie [19:48] <gingin77> or the Half Blood Prince ptoin book [19:48] <fawkes28> hi lizzie [19:48] <gingin77> potion* [19:48] <futureweasley> gingin look up [19:48] <gingin77> quite possibly DD [19:48] <Pleshette> Hi lizzie [19:48] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] [19:49] <gryffindelle> hi lizzie [19:49] <gingin77> got it [19:49] <Lizzieangel90> Hello! smile and here I am.. right one time for the last 10 minutes... I seem to do this EVERY time... so what are we talking about? [19:49] *** Aislinn has joined #lounge [19:49] <fawkes28> well DD should know about it now that harry had used it [19:49] <gingin77> the answer is yes future [19:49] <futureweasley> ok, thanks [19:49] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [19:49] <DumbleDebbie> do you think so Fawkes? [19:49] <gryffindelle> wb carpe [19:49] <DumbleDebbie> would Snape have told him? [19:49] <Tanaqui> i think harry also could do the spell because he was feeling a lot of emotion at that point [19:49] <Pleshette> Wasn't that creepy when Harry tried to cast it on the inferi? [19:50] <fawkes28> i would think that dumbledore would want to know what harry used [19:50] * Pleshette shivers [19:50] <WitByondMeasure> Yes [19:50] <gingin77> not really Pleshette [19:50] <futureweasley> Episkey is a charm used to heal or repair damage inflicted on a target. Tonks used it on Harry to fix his broken nose in HBP. What did you make of this charm? Do you believe we’ll be seeing more of these types of healing charms in Book 7? [19:50] <gingin77> i would haveused it on the inferi.. [19:50] <DumbleDebbie> guess it doesn't matter though as DD's dead [19:50] <gingin77> i thought episkey was genius as well [19:50] <DumbleDebbie> probably, battlefield medics'll need it [19:50] <fawkes28> i hope we dont have to see healing charms, but i am sure we will [19:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Definitely F/W [19:51] <Pleshette> Yes gingin, I mean that it had no effect on them [19:51] <Poet> Ludo Bagman seemed to have a smashed nose, as did Krum. I wonder why either of them ended up that way when this charm exists. [19:51] <futureweasley> I think healing will be essential in the hunt for the horcruxes [19:51] <Lizzieangel90> I think we will see a lot more little healing charms and spells as there is a war going on. But it won't be the main focus, of course. Just little mentions. smile [19:51] <Poet> Krum refused treatment I guess [19:51] <Pleshette> And they kept coming after Harry [19:51] <Tanaqui> i'm surprised we didn't see this one earlier in the series... [19:51] *** WitByondMeasure has quit [Bye] [19:51] <DumbleDebbie> I think it's gonna be very violent Fawkes [19:51] *** WitByondMeasure has joined #lounge [19:51] <futureweasley> I see "booby traps" being particularly hairy for the trio [19:51] <Aislinn> I wonder if it has to be done within a certain amount of time after the injury to be fully effective [19:51] <harryfreak359> I think we'll definitely see more healing charms in book 7 [19:51] <fawkes28> i know but you always hope not smile [19:51] <Pleshette> Me too fw [19:51] <DumbleDebbie> 'hairy for the trio' LOL [19:52] <futureweasley> lol, I couldn't resist [19:52] <fawkes28> it probably depends on the injury, aislinn [19:52] <WitByondMeasure> There are going to be more battles, I think, so they'll need healing charms [19:52] <gryffindelle> I think that it's amazing and we'll definetely see it again [19:52] <Pleshette> Not the "H" word! [19:52] <Poet> hmm [19:52] <futureweasley> I love to play on words [19:52] <gingin77> yeah healing charms are gonna show up a lot [19:52] <fawkes28> lol [19:52] <DumbleDebbie> I think it'll be painfull but if 7 isn't painful it'll cheapen the ultimate victory [19:52] <Poet> *This chat will continue in the Study Hall of the Chamber of Chat http://www.chamberofchat.com/chat/enter.asp [19:53] <DumbleDebbie> me too FW [19:53] <futureweasley> considering that I think Ginny or Hermione would make excellent healers, I think there will be some more healing charms thrown into book 7 [19:53] <futureweasley> the chamber of chat PWNS [19:53] <CarpeDiem> Whoot! smile [19:53] <DumbleDebbie> that'd be cool FW [19:53] <fawkes28> i'm sure hermione will study up on them [19:53] <gryffindelle> PWNS? [19:53] <gingin77> i get confused in the CoC [19:53] <Tanaqui> i don't know if we'll actually see that charm/spell, but it'll happen [19:53] <futureweasley> rocks [19:53] <gryffindelle> study hall? [19:53] <DumbleDebbie> field guide to healing charms? [19:54] <DumbleDebbie> *field [19:54] <futureweasley> Survival Guide for Horcrux Hunters [19:54] <Poet> Powns = rules [19:54] <harryfreak359> LOL [19:54] <gingin77> hahahahaha [19:54] <fawkes28> future likes to make up words smile [19:54] <futureweasley> If you could create any spell for the benefit of any one character, what would it be? What would the spell do and how would it help that particular character? [19:54] <gryffindelle> ok [19:54] <futureweasley> yes, yes I do [19:54] <gingin77> future i bet they could find that in theroom of requirement if they tried [19:54] <gryffindelle> thanks [19:54] <Poet> Accio horcruxes (a special accio) [19:54] <WitByondMeasure> g2g [19:54] <WitByondMeasure> Bye [19:54] <Lizzieangel90> A spell that will kill voldemort instantly, to help harry [19:55] <gingin77> um... a spell for harry dispose of voldemort [19:55] <futureweasley> bye wit [19:55] <Aislinn> ooh, intriguing question [19:55] <CarpeDiem> How about a "continue the HP novels" spell for JKR? [19:55] <gryffindelle> bye wit [19:55] <gingin77> accio horcruxes... lol [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> protection spell for all the Weasleys, Harry, Hermione - a Lazarus spell to bring DD back smile [19:55] *** WitByondMeasure left #lounge [] [19:55] <Lizzieangel90> ahahhaa.... i with you carpediem [19:55] <Pleshette> Hairio flattensia (for Harry) [19:55] <fawkes28> yes, i agree to get rid of him but in a nonviolent way so harry is still pure [19:55] <Aislinn> yes, gfab! [19:55] <CarpeDiem> I like the DD Lazarus spell GfaB! [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> lol [19:55] <DumbleDebbie> I'd make Harry a modified blood protection rebound like Lily did but one that wouldn't sost him his life [19:55] <Aislinn> lol pleshette [19:55] <gryffindelle> no idea [19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> lol [19:55] <fawkes28> lol [19:55] <futureweasley> you know how Pettigrew killed 13 muggles with a single spell? How's about a single spell that sought out all of Voldemorts soul fragments and killed them instantly [19:55] <Tanaqui> i think a spell to transform easily--for anyone in the order [19:55] <gryffindelle> a way to get rid of lv without killing him [19:55] <gingin77> a special spell that would bring harry his family back... or dumbledore... [19:55] <Poet> A spell to make two people who liked each other stop being stupid and actually get together - DeStupify! [19:56] <fawkes28> then the book would be really short, fw [19:56] <DumbleDebbie> *cost [19:56] <Pleshette> Good one Poet [19:56] <futureweasley> lol Poet [19:56] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> No [19:56] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> no gratuitous romance [19:56] <DumbleDebbie> good one for Jo CD [19:56] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> bah! [19:56] <CarpeDiem> Yes I like that one GfaB petrificus romanticus! [19:56] * futureweasley loves gratuitous romance [19:56] <Pleshette> How about desmirkify for Draco [19:57] <Tanaqui> oo--a flaming shield spell--does that exist? [19:57] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> :  [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> lol [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> good one Pleshette [19:57] <futureweasley> or deweaselfy Draco [19:57] <fawkes28> ok got to go - the kids are coming tomorrow - still lots to do [19:57] <harryfreak359> lol [19:57] <futureweasley> OH good luck fawkes [19:57] <CarpeDiem> See ya fawkes [19:57] <Aislinn> bye fawkes! [19:57] <fawkes28> goodnight all nice chat smile [19:57] <futureweasley> have fun and enjoy! [19:57] <harryfreak359> bye [19:57] <Pleshette> Happy first day fawkes [19:57] <fawkes28> thanks bye bye [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> bye fawkes [19:57] <Aislinn> its been a lot of fun tonight, folks! [19:57] <futureweasley> thanks for coming! see you later [19:57] <gryffindelle> bye fawkes [19:57] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [19:57] <Pleshette> G'night all! [19:57] <Poet> Yes, thanks for being here! [19:57] <futureweasley> goodnight Pleshette [19:58] <Aislinn> we'll be having the regular Reading Group chat on Sat [19:58] <DumbleDebbie> night Pleshette [19:58] <futureweasley> the chat was fun...thanks so much guys [19:58] <CarpeDiem> Okay I need to get to the CoC. Stop by if you have time! Thanks for the chat! [19:58] <Aislinn> and a Scribbulus chat Sat. night [19:58] <Pleshette> Woo hoo! [19:58] <gryffindelle> night pleshette [19:58] <futureweasley> y'all rock...see you in the CoC [19:58] <DumbleDebbie> night all [19:58] <Pleshette> Couldn't resist fw! Woot for you! [19:58] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [19:58] <gryffindelle> I'm already there, ArchieFleep is my name [19:58] <futureweasley> thanks Pleshette! Woot for you, too! [19:58] <harryfreak359> bye guys this was fun! [19:58] <futureweasley> Yay! [19:58] <Poet> "/" followed by "quit" is an easy way to exit this screen, or just use the "X" above the list of our names. [19:58] <Aislinn> bye harryfreak [19:59] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [19:59] <harryfreak359> even though I wasn't very talkative today [19:59] *** DumbleDebbie has quit [Bye] [19:59] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> G'night all [19:59] <Poet> Night [19:59] <harryfreak359> I was trying to figure out coding and stuff [19:59] *** Ginny-From-A-Bottle left #lounge [] [19:59] <gingin77> night guys [19:59] <harryfreak359> bye! [19:59] <gryffindelle> bye all [19:59] *** gingin77 has quit [Bye] [19:59] <futureweasley> sometimes it takes everything I have just to read and absorb it all harryfreak [19:59] *** gryffindelle left #lounge [] [19:59] <harryfreak359> yeah I know that too [19:59] <Lizzieangel90> good night all!! smile *huggles* [19:59] <futureweasley> goodnight lizzie [19:59] <harryfreak359> see you in the kitchen MJ [19:59] <futureweasley> see you there Jenn! [20:00] <Poet> bye! |
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