Wize Wizard Wednesday Text Chat Transcript 9-13-06, Draco Malfoy: Baddie for real? |
 Sep 13 2006, 10:54 PM
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*** Aislinn has joined #lounge [19:00] *** duckiemonkie has joined #lounge [19:00] *** JillianS642 has joined #lounge [19:00] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [19:00] <JillianS642> woo-hoo! Not missing anything this week! [19:00] <futureweasley> hi duckie, Jillian [19:00] <Aislinn> Hi, Jillian, duckie! [19:00] <duckiemonkie> hello! [19:00] <SoonerGryffindor> hey everyone [19:00] <duckiemonkie> how is everyone? [19:00] <JillianS642> Hey, hey! I suppose fawkes is goign to show up and steal the pink, but in the meantime .. [19:00] <JillianS642> :) [19:01] <JillianS642> ugh - don't ask! Horrible news about Montreal. [19:01] <JillianS642> great news in other areas of my life. [19:01] <JillianS642> and you duckie? [19:01] <duckiemonkie> ooo [19:01] * SoonerGryffindor just says to stay away from red [19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [19:01] <JillianS642> heh. [19:01] <duckiemonkie> good i cant complain [19:02] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:02] <futureweasley> I had a great day...got presents...no one killed me at work today...got berated in the Kitchen...it was a good day! [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> harryfreak! [19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:02] <futureweasley> hi Harryfreak! [19:02] <Aislinn> hi harryfreak [19:02] <harryfreak359> Sooner! [19:03] *** DMD has joined #lounge [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> let's talk about the kitchen shall we? [19:03] <futureweasley> DMD!!!!! [19:03] <harryfreak359> hi guys [19:03] <Aislinn> hi dmd [19:03] <futureweasley> woot! [19:03] <harryfreak359> DMD!!!!! [19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> hey DMD [19:03] <duckiemonkie> Hello harryfreak [19:03] <harryfreak359> YAY! [19:03] <harryfreak359> hello everyone! [19:03] <DMD> Ok I'm sooo overwhelmed. [19:03] <harryfreak359> lol [19:03] <JillianS642> err, kitchen? why'd you get presents? [19:03] <futureweasley> talk kitchen Sooner, talk kitchen [19:03] *** elizabethsprague has joined #lounge [19:03] <DMD> What's for dinner? [19:03] <elizabethsprague> hi all [19:04] <harryfreak359> hi [19:04] <duckiemonkie> Hello! [19:04] <Aislinn> hi elizabeth [19:04] * SoonerGryffindor knows that futureweasley knows what I am talking about [19:04] <futureweasley> I got early b-day gifts...and they were all Harry Potter [19:04] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> hi elizabeth [19:04] <futureweasley> hi Elizabeth, Cedrella [19:04] <elizabethsprague> how is everyone? [19:04] <Aislinn> cool, FW [19:04] <harryfreak359> good [19:04] <DMD> Oh, you mean smileball? [19:04] *** Dragons4Romania has joined #lounge [19:04] <CedrellaBlack> hi guys [19:04] <harryfreak359> you elizabeth? [19:04] <duckiemonkie> does anyone have the color teal as font? [19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> smileball smile [19:04] <elizabethsprague> good [19:04] <JillianS642> oh! What'd you get? My boyfriends still asking what I want for my birthday (which was one week ago) [19:04] <harryfreak359> I love smileball! [19:04] <futureweasley> yes, I screwed up of the smileball comment [19:04] <Aislinn> hi cedrella, dragons [19:04] <JillianS642> don't think so, duckie! [19:05] <CedrellaBlack> hola [19:05] <futureweasley> happy belated, Jillian! [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> and just for the record, I did NOT edit that post......grin [19:05] <duckiemonkie> goood! [19:05] *** hrhsws has joined #lounge [19:05] <harryfreak359> lol sooner [19:05] <futureweasley> I think you did [19:05] <CedrellaBlack> happy belated =] [19:05] <futureweasley> hmph [19:05] <harryfreak359> LOL [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> nope [19:05] <futureweasley> hi hrh [19:05] <Aislinn> he hrhsws [19:05] <elizabethsprague> hi [19:05] <duckiemonkie> Aghhh brb [19:05] <hrhsws> hi! [19:05] <Dragons4Romania> hi everyone... didn't think I'd be able to get here... just posted in the thread [19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> cause what FW accidentally did was funnier than anything I would have edited [19:05] <harryfreak359> yeah [19:05] <harryfreak359> lol [19:06] <DMD> reminds me of a little guy saying "Won't, won't won't" [19:06] <CedrellaBlack> whats going on? [19:06] <harryfreak359> I loved it [19:06] * futureweasley will be forced to destroy the Princely Nook if Sooner isn't nice [19:06] <harryfreak359> LOL DMD [19:06] <futureweasley> right, exactly my thoughts [19:06] * SoonerGryffindor wll someday force FW to admit that Snape is GOOD [19:06] <Dragons4Romania> hehe [19:06] <futureweasley> seriously, DMD, I'm glad you could make it tonight! [19:06] * harryfreak359 will help SOoner [19:06] <DMD> Good luck with that [19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [19:06] <Dragons4Romania> still holding out, fw? [19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks HF [19:07] <duckiemonkie> Im Back! [19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> wb duckie [19:07] <harryfreak359> We have to stick together, Sooner [19:07] <DMD> Thank you...I just hope I can keep up! [19:07] <futureweasley> yeah, DMD knows I will never see it that way...no matter the outcome [19:07] <duckiemonkie> thanks [19:07] <harryfreak359> lol [19:07] <Dragons4Romania> even this JayhawkRavenclaw thinks Snape is good [19:07] <futureweasley> yes Dragons, I'm still holding out [19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, the Snape fangirls unite [19:07] <CedrellaBlack> I think snape is good [19:07] <futureweasley> oh barf [19:07] <futureweasley> lol [19:07] <harryfreak359> grin [19:07] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:07] <DMD> By the way sooner & harryfreak, I am in your corner on the Snape thing. [19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> woot! [19:08] <Dragons4Romania> ;-) well I'm not a fan per se... just think DD had the right idea [19:08] <elizabethsprague> it depens how you look at it [19:08] <harryfreak359> YAY, we got DMD!!!! [19:08] * Aislinn thinks Snape is a greasy git [19:08] <futureweasley> YES! [19:08] <harryfreak359> boo! [19:08] * futureweasley highfives Aislinn [19:08] <JillianS642> I feel out of the loop again ... must quit trying to chat in more than three forums at a time. [19:08] <CedrellaBlack> I hate him, but i tihnk he's good [19:08] <Dragons4Romania> per the chat topic, Snape is a factor in how Draco will turn out [19:08] <DMD> Of course he's greasy git, but he's still on the right side. [19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> boo [19:08] <harryfreak359> he's great! [19:08] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:08] <CedrellaBlack> sorry sooner =[ lol [19:08] <elizabethsprague> hi [19:08] <Aislinn> we shall see [19:09] <harryfreak359> yes we shall [19:09] <Aislinn> hey, hedwigger! [19:09] <harryfreak359> biggrin [19:09] <futureweasley> yes Dragons...he is...and we will be starting in about 7 minutes with the "official topic" [19:09] <CedrellaBlack> DMD i agree [19:09] *** gryffindelle has joined #lounge [19:09] <DMD> Of course, I've always loved the greasy git type! [19:09] <Dragons4Romania> a conflicted, troubled greasy git, Aislin... lol... but a good git deep down [19:09] <Aislinn> hi gryff smile [19:09] <gryffindelle> hi [19:09] <Dragons4Romania> k, thanks fw [19:09] <elizabethsprague> are we all hear [19:09] <Hedwigger7> Hi everyone. [19:09] <futureweasley> hi hed, gryff! [19:09] <CedrellaBlack> hey hedwigger [19:09] <duckiemonkie> i agree dragons lol [19:09] <SoonerGryffindor> its okay guys, you don't all have to be in love with the man [19:09] <harryfreak359> lol [19:09] <Aislinn> its buried awfully deep, if its there dragons [19:09] <gryffindelle> brb [19:09] <Dragons4Romania> rotfl [19:09] <futureweasley> you don't have to worry about me on that one, Sooner [19:10] <harryfreak359> lol [19:10] <elizabethsprague> hi hed [19:10] <CedrellaBlack> Can you guys see this? [19:10] <Dragons4Romania> well DD wasn't in love with him.... LOL [19:10] <duckiemonkie> yup [19:10] <DMD> So what's up with the Draco speak? [19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks FW [19:10] * futureweasley 's amortesia does not smell like Polyjuice Potion and bad breath [19:10] <JillianS642> I can cedrella [19:10] <CedrellaBlack> k becuase someone is using the blue so I changed it [19:10] <Aislinn> yes cedrella [19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [19:10] <Dragons4Romania> I could accept him as a colleague on the faculty, since I'm DD's man through and through [19:10] <futureweasley> we usually start around 7:15 [19:10] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:10] <elizabethsprague> ok [19:11] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:11] <duckiemonkie> ahhh i need a blanket its chilly in my room [19:11] <Dragons4Romania> wb hedwigger [19:11] <DMD> just in case there are some late comers? [19:11] <Aislinn> don't leave us already, hed! [19:11] <CedrellaBlack> wb wb [19:11] <futureweasley> yes, DMD [19:11] <Aislinn> mine too duckie - I was just thinking that [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, it gives everyone a chance to join in [19:11] <Hedwigger7> Sorry! Got booted! [19:11] <harryfreak359> I hate that [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> and then we can all free for all chat in the meantime [19:11] <futureweasley> no problem..welcome back! [19:11] <CedrellaBlack> sweet [19:11] <duckiemonkie> ok all warm now! [19:11] <Dragons4Romania> *sigh* yup, know how you feel there hw7 [19:11] <Hedwigger7> Ready to trash the blond kid and magically disconnected! [19:11] <harryfreak359> hey! I fixed my computer! [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [19:11] <SoonerGryffindor> yay HF! [19:12] <duckiemonkie> Yay!!! HF!!!! [19:12] <harryfreak359> grin [19:12] <Dragons4Romania> lol [19:12] <CedrellaBlack> wohooo! [19:12] <JillianS642> heh [19:12] <futureweasley> lol hedwigger [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> WOOT! [19:12] <CedrellaBlack> howd you do that? [19:12] <Aislinn> do what? [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> do what? [19:12] *** Spown has joined #lounge [19:12] *** DemetryCarrington has joined #lounge [19:12] <Spown> hi everyone [19:12] <CedrellaBlack> nevermind [19:12] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:12] <Aislinn> hi folks smile [19:12] <harryfreak359> hey demetry! [19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome spown and demetry [19:12] <gryffindelle> hi spown and demetry [19:12] <duckiemonkie> Hello!!! [19:12] <harryfreak359> hi spown [19:12] <DMD> I will probably have to abandon you all for a while, it is dinner time at my house. [19:12] <CedrellaBlack> hey spown hi demetry [19:12] <DemetryCarrington> Hey Cedrella [19:12] <DemetryCarrington> Hey to everyone!!! [19:13] <Dragons4Romania> bon appetit DMD [19:13] <harryfreak359> awww....bye DMD [19:13] <elizabethsprague> hu=i duck [19:13] <Dragons4Romania> :-D [19:13] <Spown> so, which color am I tonight? [19:13] <JillianS642> Smachnoho! [19:13] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:13] <DemetryCarrington> Well I'm going to take the dark red [19:13] *** Saint_Helga has joined #lounge [19:13] <JillianS642> err, just occurred to me, noone knows what that means. [19:13] <CedrellaBlack> Dibs on the orange =] [19:13] <Spown> lol [19:13] <duckiemonkie> nope lol [19:13] <DemetryCarrington> Hey HF [19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, but no one take beige.... okay? [19:13] <harryfreak359> hi! [19:13] <Spown> lol ok [19:13] <Dragons4Romania> dunno what color I've got, but I'm happy just to be here [19:14] <Spown> :) [19:14] <Dragons4Romania> black I suppose? [19:14] <JillianS642> well, it's basically "bon apetite" in Ukrainian. We always say it here. [19:14] <futureweasley> yay! we're happy to have you! [19:14] <CedrellaBlack> Hf are you nim in the CoC? [19:14] <duckiemonkie> ooo.... Ok!! [19:14] <Dragons4Romania> thanks Jillian smile [19:14] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:14] <harryfreak359> Yeah [19:14] <JillianS642> black is a good colour, dragons. [19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> that's cool Jillian [19:14] <CedrellaBlack> ohh lol [19:14] <harryfreak359> that's me [19:14] *** DMD has quit [Bye] [19:14] <DemetryCarrington> It's been so long since I've been on here, where is my fav. person ever...Aislin how are you??!! [19:14] <gryffindelle> this is my color [19:14] <CedrellaBlack> we did trivia rememberr? [19:14] <duckiemonkie> yes black is very colorful [19:14] <harryfreak359> yeah I do [19:14] *** Saint_Helga has quit [Bye] [19:14] <harryfreak359> smile [19:14] <Aislinn> I'm good, how are you demetry? [19:14] <CedrellaBlack> i thought it was you but i wasnt sure [19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> black is the new red [19:14] <Dragons4Romania> I'd go for ravenclaw blue but no prob.... I've got that in my sig [19:15] <harryfreak359> lol [19:15] <CedrellaBlack> agreed [19:15] <Hedwigger7> Maybe I can stay on now? [19:15] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:15] *** hrhsws has quit [Bye] [19:15] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Hed [19:15] <harryfreak359> lol [19:15] <Aislinn> hopefully, hed smile [19:15] <DemetryCarrington> Very good, I haven't seen you around lately, maybe I'm just not around when you are. How's life? [19:15] <Spown> guys, I'll be right back [19:15] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [19:15] <SoonerGryffindor> !botsnack [19:15] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat [19:15] <harryfreak359> hehehe [19:15] <CedrellaBlack> how do you do that * thing? [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> we've got to keep snuffles happy [19:16] <DemetryCarrington> Wow I can BOLD stuff [19:16] <Hedwigger7> (spoken for all of us) [19:16] <Aislinn> good, good - haven't seen you here in the chats for a while [19:16] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:16] <gryffindelle> type /me [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> CB, type "/me" [19:16] <gryffindelle> cedrella [19:16] <SoonerGryffindor> without the quotes [19:16] <harryfreak359> Cedrella, type / me [19:16] <CedrellaBlack> thanks [19:16] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:16] <DemetryCarrington> Yea I know, I keep missing them, I have to get a schedual or something [19:16] * CedrellaBlack whoo hoo [19:16] <CedrellaBlack> sweet! [19:16] <CedrellaBlack> thankss [19:16] <JillianS642> oh, don't bold stuff Demetry - makes people mad. [19:16] <duckiemonkie> YAy! [19:16] <Aislinn> there is one posted over to the right of your screen [19:16] <gryffindelle> no problem [19:16] <Aislinn> the flashing avatar lists all the scheduled chats [19:16] * duckiemonkie FUn! [19:17] * Dragons4Romania also munches on a yummy treat smile [19:17] <duckiemonkie> oo woooh [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> hey guys, you can bold, but please don't [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> that's for the questions [19:17] <CedrellaBlack> makes sense [19:17] <DemetryCarrington> Hey HF, did you add me on MSN??? Ok sorry, I won't bold [19:17] <JillianS642> yeah, that's why. I always forget why until questions start coming. [19:17] <harryfreak359> uh........ [19:17] <Dragons4Romania> so bold and caps are out, Jillian? [19:17] <gryffindelle> harryfreak, are you on the coc? [19:17] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:17] <Dragons4Romania> heeh [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> are we ready to start? [19:17] <gryffindelle> is anyone on the CoC [19:17] <harryfreak359> yeah I did... [19:17] <futureweasley> yay! [19:17] <CedrellaBlack> i am [19:17] <JillianS642> not always the brightest crayon in the box am I? Sounds smart, Dragons! [19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> We will be starting the discussion in a few minutes. You’re not going to be able to type for a few minutes while we make some announcements, please bear with us, you’ll be able to type again soon. [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> There may be times during the chat when a moderator will want to PM something to you. Please keep an eye on the top of your screen, right next to the button with #Lounge on it. A button will appear with one of the mods' names on it. If you see that appear, click on it to see the PM that has been sent to you by that mod [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> You won’t be able to reply to that PM, but if you could just say something like “Meg got it” in the main chat, to let us know that you have seen it, that will be great. We'd also like to remind you that the rules of the Lounge also apply here in the Corner Booth, and may be found here: http://www.leakylounge.com/?act=rules [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> If you need to contact us during the chat, send one, or all, of us a PM on the Lounge. We will be checking them regularly, but if we haven't replied after a little while then please let us know here that you have sent a PM. Thanks for your cooperation! [19:18] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat! [19:18] <futureweasley> Draco Malfoy is the kind of guy most of us love to hate. Smarmy, sneaky, tidy hair, a cheater, pretty much Harry’s opposite in just about every way imaginable. [19:18] <futureweasley> Draco first comes to our attention in Madam Malkin’s robe shop. There he bragged about bullying his parents into buying him a racing broom which he then planned to smuggle into Hogwarts. [19:19] <futureweasley> The two books where we get to really know Draco are COS and HBP where we see Draco in his element. Talking to “Crabbe” and “Goyle” in the Slytherin common room (COS) and again on the train surrounded by more cronies (HBP). [19:19] <futureweasley> In HBP we learn of Draco’s involvement in repeated attempts to kill Dumbledore. We are left with lots of questions at the end of HBP as to Draco. So, we begin our chat to figure out if Draco is really a baddie. [19:19] <futureweasley> First question: [19:19] <futureweasley> 1. Upon first meeting Draco at Madam Malkin’s in SS/PS, Draco wants to know if Harry is “our sort” (we didn’t know he meant pure blood), he’s dismissive of Hagrid, and he doesn’t particularly care that Harry’s parents are dead. What did you make of Draco? [19:19] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:19] *** chinus has joined #lounge [19:20] *** jmish has joined #lounge [19:20] <futureweasley> hi chinus, jmish! [19:20] <Dragons4Romania> typical rich snobby kid... I've met his kind before [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> feel free to go for it guys [19:20] <elizabethsprague> hi [19:20] <CedrellaBlack> I thought he was rude and a bit out of line becuase hi made harry feel really uncomfortable [19:20] <gryffindelle> I thought he was a rich snob [19:20] <futureweasley> a definite "superiority" complex [19:20] <JillianS642> I agree Dragons, just so typical it was almost a charicature [19:20] <SoonerGryffindor> what I want to say about Draco is not PG-13 laugh [19:20] <Dragons4Romania> I'm not exactly coming from HP's background but I wasn't from a rich family... though I went to a school with plenty of rich kids there [19:20] <DemetryCarrington> I always love the introductions. I thought he was very arogant, i, as a reader felt very affended by his ignorence [19:20] <elizabethsprague> draco is not my fav [19:20] <duckiemonkie> I thought he was a selfish brat with lots of monney [19:21] <duckiemonkie> money* [19:21] <CedrellaBlack> I agree Demetry [19:21] <Dragons4Romania> about being with the right crowd... from his father, no doubt [19:21] <futureweasley> Draco certainly seemed "self-involved" when we first meet him [19:21] <DemetryCarrington> I'm with Duckie, he seemed like a rich brat who apparently CAN buy happines [19:21] <Aislinn> He immediately was set up for me as a snob, somebody that Harry should not associate with [19:21] <futureweasley> and it doesn't really change much throughout the series [19:22] <CedrellaBlack> I have to go guys sorry [19:22] <CedrellaBlack> byee [19:22] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> bye CB [19:22] *** Expelliarmas has joined #lounge [19:22] <duckiemonkie> Byeee [19:22] <gryffindelle> hi expel [19:22] <futureweasley> hi Expie [19:22] <DemetryCarrington> What Jo used to describe him at this part in the series has stayed the same throughout, he is one of many charcaters who hasn't changed at all [19:22] <duckiemonkie> we lost then gained a person! [19:22] <Dragons4Romania> he didn't know who HP was, though, and he did show some typical boy behavior, much as Ron would do [19:22] *** mode/#lounge [+o Expelliarmas] by Snuffles [19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> hey expie! [19:22] <chinus> I agree with Duckie as well, selfish brat [19:22] <Dragons4Romania> trying to make friends, nonetheless [19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, so Expie knows how I feel about Draco, being in the same RG and all [19:22] <futureweasley> it was strange to me that he didn't recognize Harry at first [19:22] <Expelliarmas> buenos aires, everyone, what's the question? [19:22] <elizabethsprague> ya he is [19:23] <Aislinn> yeah, but the way he goes about it shows his elitist attitude dragons [19:23] <chinus> and hi you all!! my first chat and I can't keep up with reading, don't go so fast ;-) [19:23] <Dragons4Romania> only when he found out who HP was, and that he was hangin' with the weasley crowd, did he become really nasty [19:23] <Dragons4Romania> no doubt aislinn [19:23] <futureweasley> lol chinus...I am familar with the dilemma [19:23] <Aislinn> it does take a while to get used to chinus, but you'll get there smile [19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> he was so self involved [19:23] <Dragons4Romania> once he knew HP was well, HP... that was it as far as chatting him up, lol [19:23] *** Angelyka13 has joined #lounge [19:23] <JillianS642> Maybe he was more nervous than I'd first granted him ... after all, if he were put into Hufflepuff, his parents would probably disown him! [19:23] <Expelliarmas> what do you mean "was"? [19:23] <DemetryCarrington> I agree with Dragon, it seems Ron was the trigger to his ignorence towards HP [19:24] <gryffindelle> hi angelyka [19:24] <Aislinn> being the only child of the parents that we later see, certainly explains the attitude that we see in him in that first meeting [19:24] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [19:24] *** Tanaqui has joined #lounge [19:24] * futureweasley is actually a defender of Draco [19:24] <SoonerGryffindor> wb HF [19:24] <harryfreak359> sorry I had dishes to do [19:24] <JillianS642> hey Angelyka! [19:24] <harryfreak359> smile [19:24] <duckiemonkie> i felt when he knew about Harry he wanted to be the exact opposite [19:24] <Aislinn> hi tanaqui [19:24] <Dragons4Romania> deffo spoiled brat.... [19:24] <Angelyka13> hello smile [19:24] <Aislinn> hi angel [19:24] <gryffindelle> hi tanaqui [19:24] <futureweasley> On the train, Ron finds Draco’s name funny. Draco instantly knows Ron’s a Weasley (red hair, freckles, more kids than they can afford) and tells Harry the Weasleys are the wrong sort. What did you think of Draco’s cutting remarks [19:25] <Dragons4Romania> if the parents aren't good with their parenting, the kids can turn out really rotten, can't they [19:25] <Aislinn> it cemented my already negative impression of him [19:25] <gryffindelle> yeah [19:25] <Expelliarmas> I thought he and his father were a twisted pair. [19:25] <Tanaqui> hi everyone. i think draco's remarks were a sure sign of his true insecurity [19:25] <JillianS642> me, too, tanaqui! [19:25] <Dragons4Romania> from "he's stuck up and spoiled" to "he's a real jerk, avoid him!" [19:25] * JillianS642 celebrates because she's not alone! [19:25] <elizabethsprague> hi tank [19:25] <duckiemonkie> i agree Tanaqui [19:25] <Angelyka13> it sounds much like something he had learned [19:26] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf has joined #lounge [19:26] <Expelliarmas> but at the same time, he was very quick with his retort, so he's not stupid [19:26] <gryffindelle> hi www [19:26] <DemetryCarrington> At this point I could tell that Draco was raised in a family where the Weasley's were looked down upon, when he heard Ron making fun of him it was the exact opposite of what it should be...Draco making ofun of Ron, that seems to have set him off [19:26] <harryfreak359> I thought he was a arrogant jerk [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome WWW [19:26] <Dragons4Romania> his father's words in Draco's mouth, that's for sure [19:26] <Dragons4Romania> tough to overcome that [19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> good point demetry [19:26] <futureweasley> I think that his environment and his upbringing made his perception of reality skewed [19:26] * duckiemonkie Still trying to keep herself warm in her blanket! [19:26] <DemetryCarrington> :) [19:26] <Tanaqui> draco was with 'friends' right? he also probably felt the need to show superiority to get them to be his lackeys [19:26] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> HI everyone. Draco thinks he is clever. [19:27] <Expelliarmas> Draco is clever. [19:27] <harryfreak359> You good point Demetry [19:27] <futureweasley> The Weasleys being the "wrong sort"? In what world would the Weasley's be anybody's "wrong sort"? [19:27] <Dragons4Romania> whereas Harry was ignored and locked up by Vernon, Draco was nurtured closely and spoiled by a DE [19:27] <elizabethsprague> hi WWW [19:27] <harryfreak359> yeah* [19:27] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [19:27] <SoonerGryffindor> lol.... so do you like Draco, or not FW? [19:27] <JillianS642> Hmm, I never noticed that Ron made the first cutting comment though ... Draco must have been on the defense anyway, then. [19:27] <Dragons4Romania> Draco would've been better off raised by the Dursleys smile [19:27] <elizabethsprague> hi ced [19:27] <Expelliarmas> well, we later learn the Weasleys are blood traitors, big clue to a DE that they're the wrong sort [19:27] <Dragons4Romania> which is saying something [19:27] <CedrellaBlack> this computer doesnt work well so I might be slow on responding [19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh Imagining Draco being raised by Vernon [19:28] <harryfreak359> yeah exactly expel [19:28] <harryfreak359> LOL [19:28] <futureweasley> it just seems to me like Draco had one too many glasses of Daddy's kool-aid when it comes to smugness and arrogance [19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:28] *** jmish has quit [Bye] [19:28] <harryfreak359> Sooner....just when I was taking a sip of water too [19:28] <duckiemonkie> Lol [19:28] <Angelyka13> it sounds like something any person with an ism would say [19:28] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:28] <chinus> the question is who would suffer more Draco or Vernon [19:28] <Dragons4Romania> Draco and Dudley.... ROTFL [19:28] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Actually Draco would get on with Vernon. the problem is they are so alike in their dislike [19:28] <Aislinn> so you think he is just parroting things he has heard at home, FW? [19:28] <DemetryCarrington> Sooner, you're the best [19:28] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Both spoilt brats. [19:28] <Dragons4Romania> but deffo different, WWW [19:29] <CedrellaBlack> I think he is also mistreated by his father [19:29] <elizabethsprague> draco and dersly are a lot alick [19:29] <futureweasley> I think he actually believe his own hype, because it's what he was taught at home [19:29] <CedrellaBlack> so the only way he can respond is by mistreating others [19:29] <duckiemonkie> i wonder how the Dursleys would treat him [19:29] <Dragons4Romania> being raised by a DE vs. being raised by a anti-wizard uncle [19:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Depends on one's POV what they are spoiled brats over [19:29] <Expelliarmas> the pure-bloods likely think Draco is the ideal soon [19:29] * harryfreak359 is still laughing over the though of Draco and the Dursleys [19:29] <Dragons4Romania> Draco would've been better off being in Harry's position, is what I was making the point about [19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> me too HF [19:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Anti everything the problem. [19:29] <harryfreak359> lol [19:30] <futureweasley> I don Did you find it odd that Draco was already surrounded by Crabbe and Goyle (the anti-trio)? Are they friends? Is Draco capable of friendship? Why did Draco pick them as companions [19:30] <Expelliarmas> *son [19:30] <Dragons4Romania> explaining how Harry and Draco ended up differently [19:30] <CedrellaBlack> i agree dragons [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> anti-trio *dies laughing* [19:30] <Dragons4Romania> Draco would've been locked up by Vernon too.... [19:30] <harryfreak359> LOL [19:30] <duckiemonkie> Because they are big and scary [19:30] <Angelyka13> I always thought it was because the parents were "friends" [19:30] <Dragons4Romania> as a pure-blood wizard! [19:30] * harryfreak359 chuckles [19:30] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think Crabbe might be a cousin or something [19:30] <CedrellaBlack> I think he nneeds them there to do all the messy work [19:30] <JillianS642> I think draco is capable of friendship, he just hasn't found it yet (and those two definitely don't count - too inferior) [19:30] <futureweasley> I think it was a strategy decision...he needs to be the "brains" and they are the "braun" [19:30] <Aislinn> they seem more like lackeys than true friends [19:30] <DemetryCarrington> Hmmm good question, i think possibly the parents set up the kids being together, that it was not by choice [19:30] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:30] <harryfreak359> I don't think they are really what you would call friends [19:30] <Expelliarmas> I don't think Draco is capable of having a "friend" in the true sense of the word [19:30] <CedrellaBlack> they aare also more intimidating that draco [19:30] <Dragons4Romania> DE parents, kids will hang out together ;-) [19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I really don;t think that Draco is capable of friendship in the normal way that most of us would use to define it [19:31] <Aislinn> I don't think he relies on them in an equal way, the way the trio do with each other [19:31] <Dragons4Romania> *gang* is more like it [19:31] <chinus> and crabbe and goyle's dads seem to suck up to lucius as well, don't they [19:31] <harryfreak359> yeah sooner [19:31] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Irma Crabbe Draco's grandmother [19:31] <Dragons4Romania> the Junior Death Eaters Club [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> he's more used to the model he has seen growing up [19:31] <futureweasley> Crabbe and Goyle and thick and easily persuadible [19:31] <harryfreak359> yep [19:31] <CedrellaBlack> they deffinetely already knew eacheother outside of school [19:31] <duckiemonkie> he may pay them to be his "friends"...Lol. [19:31] <harryfreak359> and they aren't really capable of friendshi[ either [19:31] <Expelliarmas> Crabbe and Goyle fill in for Dobby [19:31] <gryffindelle> I think that they are not friends, just that their parents know each other from the DEs and Draco wanted bodyguards [19:31] <CedrellaBlack> lol duckie [19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> where domination is what makes someone your "friend" [19:31] <Tanaqui> i think draco's more capable of friendship than tom riddle was [19:31] <futureweasley> he can manipulate them to do his bidding...he's very much like LV in that sense [19:31] <DemetryCarrington> I think it's just a natural instinct for Draco, Daddy has a "Gang", why can't I [19:31] <chinus> can't you see them playing in the sandbox together?! [19:32] <Dragons4Romania> exactly DC [19:32] <harryfreak359> LOL [19:32] <duckiemonkie> Lol! [19:32] <futureweasley> lol Tanquai...we are on the same wavelength [19:32] <Aislinn> I think so too tanaqui [19:32] <SoonerGryffindor> right on demetry [19:32] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Mix in the same circles. Yes they could play in the same DE sandbox [19:32] <Tanaqui> smile [19:32] <Dragons4Romania> even Dudley does that... ends up with a "gang" [19:32] <Hedwigger7> Ok, maybe I can stay on a little while... Has anyone said Draco is spoiled spoiled spoiled? [19:32] <Dragons4Romania> a muggle gang, of course... but still a gang [19:32] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL [19:32] <futureweasley> don't all kids end up with "cronies"? [19:32] <Expelliarmas> Crabbe and Goyle's fathers don't seem that bright if the scene at the cemetary is anything to go by [19:32] <CedrellaBlack> yes hed lol [19:32] <Dragons4Romania> why no, HW7 smile [19:32] <Dragons4Romania> hehehehehehehehe [19:32] <Hedwigger7> lol [19:32] <JillianS642> you know, I think a lot of them do, FW. [19:32] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> And they are all people he got round with in primary [19:32] <SoonerGryffindor> and the apple didn't fall too far from the tree in this case [19:32] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:32] <Angelyka13> well most bullys need a gang if not for support to laugh at their tauntings [19:32] <JillianS642> whether you want them or not, sometimes [19:32] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:33] <gryffindelle> wb hed [19:33] <futureweasley> Ron and Hermione are Harry's cronies...I just think your childhood is often defined by the company you keep [19:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> hi hed [19:33] <harryfreak359> I think Draco think he is all that,and of course wants to have followers [19:33] <Dragons4Romania> bullies don't have friends.... just "followers" [19:33] <Dragons4Romania> snap harryfreak [19:33] <CedrellaBlack> Draco is much more of a coward without his "Cronies" [19:33] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [19:33] <Hedwigger7> Don't speak, I'll get disconnected... [19:33] <futureweasley> right Dragons...I agree [19:33] <Tanaqui> and i suppose we have to ask if crabbe and goyle are capable of friendship--i think what they have with draco is what they would cosnider friendship [19:33] <chinus> too right dragons [19:33] <Dragons4Romania> anyone see "Mean Girls"? [19:33] <Dragons4Romania> smile [19:33] <Hedwigger7> Hi www! [19:33] <duckiemonkie> yeas [19:33] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I found Crabbe and Goyle funny as girls in HBP. [19:33] <CedrellaBlack> yeppers dragons [19:33] <chinus> hi dumbledebbie [19:33] <Expelliarmas> the trio would sacrifice for each other--the anti-trio would sell each other out in a heartbeat [19:33] <DemetryCarrington> Draco without cronies is like...Snape in his childhood, just an arogant loner...maybe there is something there [19:33] <harryfreak359> someone he can boss around and make him feel even more powerful [19:33] <DumbleDebbie> hi chinus [19:33] <futureweasley> they've always got his back... [19:34] <Dragons4Romania> Lindsey Lohan = Harry Potter [19:34] <SoonerGryffindor> hello dumbledebbie smile [19:34] <DumbleDebbie> hey Sooner [19:34] <gryffindelle> yes, dragons [19:34] <CedrellaBlack> mm i dont thinks so dragons [19:34] <futureweasley> In COS, Harry and Ron take polyjuice potion and get into the Slytherin common room. Draco speaks unguardedly about mudbloods, Dumbledore, Harry, and the heir of Slytherin. Why did Draco want to help the heir of Slytherin? What did you think of his hope that Hermione would be the basilisk’s next victim? [19:34] <Dragons4Romania> 'cept she fell for the Plastics for a time [19:34] <CedrellaBlack> becuase harry potter doesnt turn into draco malfoy [19:34] <CedrellaBlack> lol [19:34] <Hedwigger7> I think at that point Draco just spouts what he hears at home... [19:34] <harryfreak359> He doesn't like hermione, she is everthing that he is against [19:34] <SoonerGryffindor> ooooh, anyone stll feel sorry for Draco now? [19:34] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:35] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He seems to hate Hermione even more than Harry? [19:35] <elizabethsprague> snap hats the mug in him [19:35] <Tanaqui> hmmm...draco didn't realize what it truly meant to die, if he's caring that little for another victim [19:35] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:35] <DumbleDebbie> I think he wouldn't mind seeing the 'mudbloods' all killed off and the school 'pureblood' only [19:35] <JillianS642> I think his hope that Hermie gets hurt is malicious and completely in character - if she actually died, I think he'd be as shocked as anyone though [19:35] <CedrellaBlack> Draco is jealous of hermione [19:35] <harryfreak359> partly [19:35] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:35] <gryffindelle> Draco wanted to do anything to hinder the trio, and he hated Hermoine because she's a muggleborn and a friend of Harry's [19:35] <futureweasley> I agree Cedreall [19:35] <Expelliarmas> He was very excited at the thought of Hermione dying--unseemingly so. [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> Draco actually would hav been pleased to see her DIE [19:35] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:35] *** DemetryCarrington has quit [Bye] [19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> that's pretty extreme [19:35] <Dragons4Romania> smart muggles are a threat to dumb purebloods [19:35] *** DemetryCarrington has joined #lounge [19:35] <harryfreak359> yeah, but she is also what he was raised to hate [19:35] <duckiemonkie> He wants to brag about being a pureblood and being raised by wizards and witches [19:35] <DumbleDebbie> exactly Cedrella [19:35] <futureweasley> sooner, that's daddy's influence again [19:35] <harryfreak359> yeah [19:35] <harryfreak359> exactly future [19:35] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> What has she done to him for him to take that attitude? [19:35] <CedrellaBlack> He wishes he could have her brains have parents that love her and basically her life [19:36] <CedrellaBlack> him* [19:36] <Expelliarmas> no, I think his hatred of Hermione is on Draco, not his Lucius [19:36] <Angelyka13> i think it would be something he could go tell daddy about... and therefor have a reason for conversation [19:36] <DumbleDebbie> but Sirius was raised in a nasty home and he doesn't want to see people die b/c of their ancestry [19:36] <JillianS642> I don't think he really would have been pleased to see her die, just like he couldn't kill DD. It's one thing to talk it, another thing to have it come true. [19:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I can understand jealousy, but actively wanting someone to die? [19:36] <futureweasley> it takes a village to raise a child...look at who was building their huts in Draco's village [19:36] <JillianS642> www: mere existence [19:36] *** Leda has joined #lounge [19:36] <harryfreak359> he is a future Death Eater, sooner! [19:36] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL FW laugh [19:36] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Is he ashamed that she beats him even in potions? [19:36] <Dragons4Romania> Daddy told him that the future belongs to the well-connected purebloods, not to the skillfull muggles [19:36] <Angelyka13> i dont think he has it in him to be a DE [19:36] <Aislinn> I tend to agree with you jillian - I think it was big talk [19:36] <elizabethsprague> draco hate hermimie [19:36] <Tanaqui> it really wasn't reality to him--if his own life were threatened, i think draco would have felt differently about the basilisk [19:36] <futureweasley> yes Wagga...I think he was. [19:36] <CedrellaBlack> that is true FW [19:37] <DumbleDebbie> maybe at that point though, at that young of an age, I don't think 'die' was real to Draco [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he might [19:37] <CedrellaBlack> be right back i have to switch computers again [19:37] <DemetryCarrington> I agree with Angelyka, he's evil, but not that evil [19:37] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [19:37] <Hedwigger7> Not only racial prejudice but her folks aren't uppa' class either... [19:37] <Dragons4Romania> Sirius was "rescued" from his family in a way... perhaps by being in Gryffindor, perhaps by Dumbledore personally> [19:37] <chinus> if you look at the start, Draco isn't against Harry, he wants to "help" him, it's not until Harry decides to side with Ron that he turns from Harry. Hermione he hates from the beginning. A mudblood and the best in every class... [19:37] <Expelliarmas> I don't think it was big talk, he spouts that nonsense again in GOF on the trainride home--he was pleased Cedric died. [19:37] <elizabethsprague> cuse hermimeis is mugule born [19:37] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:37] <futureweasley> Lucius even comments when he and Draco are in Borgin & Burkes that the "mudblood" had humiliated Draco in every subject [19:37] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:37] <harryfreak359> poor hed [19:37] <harryfreak359> sad [19:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Expie [19:37] <Hedwigger7> Thanks... [19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Draco was just fine with classmates dying [19:38] <Hedwigger7> @#$%^ connection... [19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> and he should have known better [19:38] <elizabethsprague> hed ceps comeing and going [19:38] <Angelyka13> cedric wasnt muggle born though was he... [19:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> wb hed [19:38] <Dragons4Romania> a philosophical disdain of anything other than purebloods... again Daddy's work... [19:38] <gryffindelle> Hermoine is a muggleborn and friends with his enemy and his father's enemy [19:38] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [19:38] <Expelliarmas> I also don't think he wanted to help the heir of Slytherin, he wanted the reflected glory--big difference [19:38] <Hedwigger7> thax www [19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> wb CB [19:38] <harryfreak359> Cedric was a "muggle lover" [19:38] <CedrellaBlack> thanks [19:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> We don't know. But why did Draco assume so? [19:38] <futureweasley> In COS, Draco was perfectly happy to follow Lucius’ instructions. Draco knows dear-old-dad knows what’s going on, but he doesn’t tell Dumbledore nor Snape. Why not? [19:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Cedric was merely fair minded. [19:39] <Dragons4Romania> perhaps he wanted Hermione to be the first victim because he was secretly attracted to her ,and hated himself for feeling that.... lol [19:39] <chinus> because he was friendly with everyone and helpful?! [19:39] <gryffindelle> probable because his daddy told him not to [19:39] <Expelliarmas> probably because daddy told him not to [19:39] <harryfreak359> Because he is following his dad's footsteps [19:39] <Aislinn> he was probably told not to say anything [19:39] <gryffindelle> *probably [19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its cause daddy dearest didn't tell him enough [19:39] <gryffindelle> lol expel [19:39] <futureweasley> I think he was bred to hate DD, and that Snape was out of the "circle of trust" by that point [19:39] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:39] <Tanaqui> he had a bit of fear of his father? [19:39] <Aislinn> and he worships his father - will do anything that dear old dad says [19:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Draco's dad told him to lay low, but I don't see Draco doing it [19:39] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:39] <DumbleDebbie> obviously his dad and DD are on opposite sides [19:39] <Expelliarmas> ok, how many folks think he was ordered not to say a word? lol [19:40] <CedrellaBlack> I think he wanted to show his dad that he was rebelling against the system, and that he was all for the heir of slytherin [19:40] *** Hedwigger7 has quit [Bye] [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree, WWW, which is why I think that he just didnt have any info [19:40] <DemetryCarrington> During Cos, to the DE, Snape couldn't be trusted yet, neither could DD, so it was left to Draco to say nothing [19:40] <DumbleDebbie> maybe he thinks he'll score points with his dad [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> good point demetry [19:40] <duckiemonkie> Hey guys i gotta do the dishes i should be back in about 20 min! [19:40] <DemetryCarrington> bye [19:40] <SoonerGryffindor> c ya duckie [19:40] <Dragons4Romania> Dumbledore hasn't had Draco under his care for long enough.... takes a long time to turn the kid around after being indoctrinated by his dad for 10 yrs [19:40] <CedrellaBlack> bye duckie [19:40] <futureweasley> he wanted Lucius to have the glory for the "horror" that was within the Chamber...he was told that would bring his family glory [19:40] <harryfreak359> bye [19:40] <Expelliarmas> Interesting he knows someone died, is pleased about it and wants to let it happen again. [19:40] <JillianS642> I think he wouldn't tell Dumbledore because he's not close to him, and he wouldn't tell Snape because Draco's slytherin - keep it secret and keep it personally powerful. [19:40] <Tanaqui> i think dumbledebbie's onto something! [19:40] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [19:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes diary was conspiracy against DD & Arthur Weasley [19:41] *** duckiemonkie has quit [Bye] [19:41] <CedrellaBlack> his dad told him not to tell anything to anyone [19:41] <harryfreak359> I don't think he needed to be told [19:41] <DemetryCarrington> Did Draco know about the diary??? [19:41] <Dragons4Romania> only 2nd year, Draco will listen to his father more than DD.... by 6th year that wasn't so clear [19:41] <CedrellaBlack> no i dont think so [19:41] <futureweasley> there isn't anything that the Malfoy's do that they don't think is going to please the Dark Lord [19:41] <chinus> guys since it's almost 2 in the morning this is just going way to fast for me. If I find out how to log out of here I will leave you like this, sorry, but please feel free to kick Draco a few more times from me (smileball too if he is mentioned) [19:41] <DumbleDebbie> hhmmm I wonder Demetry [19:41] <Expelliarmas> even more interesting, Crabbe and Goyle know too (because Draco bragged to them) and they said nothing either [19:41] <Angelyka13> I still think it shows the typical child reaction to being raised in a racist household. [19:41] <gryffindelle> I don't think so demetry [19:41] <harryfreak359> I think, with the way he was raised, he was just as much into the dark side as the rest of his family [19:42] <futureweasley> nice Chinus...thanks for that [19:42] <futureweasley> lol [19:42] <Angelyka13> you accept what happens to "them" because that is what is supposed to happen [19:42] <DumbleDebbie> bye chinus! [19:42] <elizabethsprague> draco has alwas hated DD [19:42] *** Hedwigger7 has joined #lounge [19:42] *** chinus left #lounge [] [19:42] <harryfreak359> bye chinus [19:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> ok chinus. I have to go to work in a quarter hour. [19:42] <Tanaqui> draco is the type to looooove some inside information and lord it over people [19:42] <CedrellaBlack> No way he knows about the diary, i dont even think lucius knew it was important [19:42] <futureweasley> In COS, Draco and Lucius enter Borgin and Burkes. Draco whines about Hermione getting preferential treatment from the teachers. He claims that is why she out-did him in every class. Draco takes no responsibility for his grades. Is this typical of Draco? Why or why not? [19:42] <harryfreak359> yeah exactly tanaqi [19:42] <DemetryCarrington> (Demetry kicking Draco for Chinus) Do we know that Draco was told about what was going on? I can't find it in the book. [19:42] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I don't think Draco hates DD [19:42] <Dragons4Romania> harryfreak, because his dad was into it.... as Draco grows up he will have to "choose" to be on that side... and DD was hoping to sway him [19:43] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [19:43] <Hedwigger7> THink its perfect Draco -- doesn't do anything and expects everything... [19:43] <elizabethsprague> Draco has aways loved thae dark arts [19:43] <DumbleDebbie> typical off too many people these days, not taking responsibilty for themselves [19:43] <gryffindelle> yes because his tactic is always to blame others for his problems [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> ha! [19:43] *** fawkes28 has joined #lounge [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, I would say so [19:43] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He takes no responsibility for anything. If he is rude to Harry it is Harry's fault [19:43] <harryfreak359> hi fawkes! [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome fawkes [19:43] <Angelyka13> It would be typical of him, Im sure he never saw his father take the blame for anything [19:43] <fawkes28> hello all smile [19:43] <Expelliarmas> what me responsible for a failure?!? There must be some rational explanation that does not involve taking responsibility, let's blame a mudblood, shall we? [19:43] <futureweasley> totally typical of Draco...will take no responsibility for his actions, because he's never been made to [19:43] <gryffindelle> hi carpe and fawkes [19:43] <harryfreak359> yeah [19:43] <elizabethsprague> hi faw [19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [19:43] <DemetryCarrington> Maybe dear 'ol dad is getting Draco a job at the Ministry for free, so then why should grades matter [19:43] <futureweasley> carpe and fawkes...welcome [19:43] <fawkes28> what's the current question? [19:43] <DumbleDebbie> or blame the house elf [19:44] <CedrellaBlack> Well i think this is a a little bit hipocritical of him becuse he does really well in snapes class because of favoristism [19:44] <futureweasley> a recap of the question: [19:44] <futureweasley> In COS, Draco and Lucius enter Borgin and Burkes. Draco whines about Hermione getting preferential treatment from the teachers. He claims that is why she out-did him in every class. Draco takes no responsibility for his grades. Is this typical of Draco? Why or why not? [19:44] <TheAzkabanDietitian> What is the question at hand right now??? [19:44] <Hedwigger7> Yes DC, I think Draco is into entitlement... [19:44] <Dragons4Romania> used to getting his way because of who his father is, not because of his own efforts... yup, that's book 2 Draco in a nutshell smile [19:44] <JillianS642> bah! Fawkes, my nemesis1 [19:44] <Aislinn> yes, he obviously thinks who he knows is more important than what he knows [19:44] <JillianS642> ugly purple it is. [19:44] <CedrellaBlack> He Expects the preferential treatment he cant stand that a muggle born is getting all the attention [19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> well, the comments he made on the train in HBP are pretty telling arent they? [19:44] <Dragons4Romania> yup aislinn [19:44] <Aislinn> so why should he take responsibilty for poor grades in that case? [19:45] <Expelliarmas> well, Hermione didn't just get attention--she got the grades [19:45] <harryfreak359> yeah exactly Aislinn [19:45] <JillianS642> oh, entitlement - good way to phrase it, hedwigger. [19:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco just doesn't want Lucius breathing down his neck about school... so he does what a lot of kids do... by putting the blame on someone or something else [19:45] <fawkes28> i dont think he takes much responsible for anything he is used to getting whatever he wants [19:45] <Dragons4Romania> sooner, he knew HP was listening too [19:45] <futureweasley> Lucius never accepts anything less than perfection [19:45] <harryfreak359> No he didn't [19:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Exactly [19:45] <CarpeDiem> Agreed Aislinn, and if that's the way he thinks, Hermione MUST be getting better grades because of favoritism. [19:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> because Draco spends too much time disrupting Harry and not enough time working [19:45] <Expelliarmas> no way he knew HP was listening [19:45] <harryfreak359> yeah no way [19:45] <futureweasley> he's a very demanding father, and draco is always falling short [19:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco DOES work [19:45] <CedrellaBlack> lol WWW [19:45] <Aislinn> right carpe [19:45] <Angelyka13> it must be tough to be beaten by someone who had no idea of that world until a year or two ago [19:45] <TheAzkabanDietitian> he is not crabbe and goyle [19:45] <Hedwigger7> Was anyone else as furious as I was when Draco stomped on Harry's face in HBP? [19:46] <Hedwigger7> That was shocking to me... [19:46] <gryffindelle> yes [19:46] <Expelliarmas> no [19:46] <harryfreak359> I was outraged [19:46] <Dragons4Romania> book 6? he knew! [19:46] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco is a very good student, Hermione is just better [19:46] <DemetryCarrington> ARG!! I hated him for that [19:46] <CedrellaBlack> I wanted to punch him in the face =] [19:46] <Expelliarmas> Draco would take advantage [19:46] <Expelliarmas> that's just Draco being Draco [19:46] <DemetryCarrington> Yea Draco + Potions = Good grades [19:46] <harryfreak359> it wasn' shocking, but it sure made me mad [19:46] <Hedwigger7> And yet we were supposed to feel sorry for him by the book's end? Didn't work for me... [19:46] <Angelyka13> ...he was being spied on... [19:46] <CarpeDiem> I thought it fit him rather well. He seems the kick you while you're down type [19:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> That was retaliation for the previous two end-of-year Hogwarts Express incidents. It could have been worse [19:46] <gryffindelle> I wanted to step on his face [19:46] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco didn't fatally wound Harry... but he is a punk [19:46] <harryfreak359> me too [19:46] <Hedwigger7> www, yea, but not by much... [19:46] <futureweasley> Draco + Potions = Draco's best opportunity to brown nose...just like his father [19:46] <CedrellaBlack> yes demetry and one of the reasons is becuase of favoritism snap obviously favos draco [19:46] <Aislinn> it was quite a violent act [19:47] <elizabethsprague> good night all [19:47] <Hedwigger7> I thought he went over the top. [19:47] <CedrellaBlack> hahaa FW [19:47] <Dragons4Romania> if reversed, Harry would've punched Draco [19:47] <Tanaqui> it's scary how real that moment is--i know kids/teens who tell their parents that same thing--it's not their fault! [19:47] <harryfreak359> good night! [19:47] <SoonerGryffindor> good nite elizabeth [19:47] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Violent, but it could have been worse [19:47] <futureweasley> good night Elizabeth [19:47] <gryffindelle> night [19:47] <fawkes28> draco wants to be top dog and he is not harry is a threat to him [19:47] <CarpeDiem> Night elizabethsprague [19:47] <Expelliarmas> Harry would not have punched Draco if Draco was frozen [19:47] <gryffindelle> elizabeth [19:47] <elizabethsprague> have a good night [19:47] *** riefvly has joined #lounge [19:47] <Hedwigger7> Can't see Harry stomping on someone on the ground... [19:47] <Dragons4Romania> perhaps not stomped on him.... ;-) [19:47] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Potions probably his best subject. I loved how poorly he did in HBP [19:47] <harryfreak359> yeah no doubt expel [19:47] <JillianS642> wow, tanaqui, you keep saying all the stuff I'm about to! From now on, just pretend like I say "me too" after all her/his posts! [19:47] <Dragons4Romania> but punch Draco in the gut, perhaps? book 5? smile [19:47] *** elizabethsprague has quit [Bye] [19:47] * SoonerGryffindor agrees with Expie on all things Draco [19:47] <gryffindelle> hi riefvly [19:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Harry is more violent than Draco... Draco is a coward [19:48] <Tanaqui> lol! [19:48] <riefvly> hi [19:48] <futureweasley> In COS, Draco would love to see Hermione die. In GOF, he taunts her at the Quidditch World Cup about being a mudblood. Why does Draco loathe Hermione as much as he does? [19:48] <Expelliarmas> Harry is not the type to take a cheap shot [19:48] <DemetryCarrington> Draco stomping on HP was such a muggle thing to do, he sunk to that level. Harry would never do that [19:48] <Hedwigger7> lol DR! [19:48] <CedrellaBlack> yeah but the hero is allowed to punch the bad guy =] [19:48] <futureweasley> because he loves her secretly [19:48] <Tanaqui> some would say he's secretly in love with her.... (devil) [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, if anyone says he;s secretly in love with her I might puke [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> arghhh!!!!! [19:48] <futureweasley> lol [19:48] <DumbleDebbie> LOL [19:48] <riefvly> lol This post has been edited by Aislinn: Sep 15 2006, 09:49 AM -------------------- |
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[19:48] <Aislinn> I think he looks down on her for her mudblood status, but is also envious of how well she does in school
[19:48] <TheAzkabanDietitian> He's jealous of Hermione [19:48] <harryfreak359> right there with you sooner [19:48] <CedrellaBlack> hahaa it would be a snape lily [19:48] * JillianS642 hands sooner a bucket [19:48] <Hedwigger7> FW rofl... [19:48] <fawkes28> ok fanfic girl - you have many stories to write for us, future [19:48] <Expelliarmas> ok, Draco is secretly pining for Hermione [19:48] <Dragons4Romania> what would Daddy think!!! [19:48] <DemetryCarrington> [19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:48] <CarpeDiem> I think Hermione is the opposit of everything he was taught about Mudbloods. It's most likely very confusing to him. So he strikes out at it. [19:48] <gryffindelle> she gets the grades, she's muggleborn, and she's friends with his enemy and his father's enemy [19:48] <Tanaqui> what i really think, though, is deep, deep roots of hatred instilled by his family [19:48] <Dragons4Romania> ooooooooooo can someone say disown? [19:49] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> How did Draco regard her at the Yule ball? He seemed a bit taken aback. [19:49] <Aislinn> that's an excellent point, carpe [19:49] <Hedwigger7> Good one Carpe [19:49] <Dragons4Romania> buckets all round..... :-p [19:49] <JillianS642> ot [19:49] <harryfreak359> yeah capre [19:49] <Aislinn> he needs to ridicule her to feel more sure of his beliefs [19:49] <DumbleDebbie> thanks for the mental image Sooner sick [19:49] <JillianS642> yikes, sorry! [19:49] <DemetryCarrington> He seemed quite intrigued at the Yule Ball [19:49] <harryfreak359> carpe* [19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [19:49] <CarpeDiem> I /don't/ think he's in love though smile Draco is not the type to understand love. [19:49] <fawkes28> i think he is secretly jealous of her if he was more like her than his father would be proud of him so he resents her for that [19:49] <futureweasley> you're right, Fawkes...I have fanfic to get to! [19:49] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Aislinn is right [19:49] <Dragons4Romania> opposites attract... when they're not throwing insults or punches [19:49] <CedrellaBlack> good point carpe [19:49] <Tanaqui> if he was taken aback by her at the ball, it would show that he has a general prejudice against mudbloods [19:50] <Tanaqui> and his prejudice was just shattered a bit [19:50] *** LordValerius has joined #lounge [19:50] <CedrellaBlack> but i think insulting her becuase hes jealous makes him feel better about himself [19:50] <Dragons4Romania> smiley) [19:50] <futureweasley> come on...he treats her like boys treat girls on the playground [19:50] <CedrellaBlack> boosts his self esteem [19:50] <TheAzkabanDietitian> actually, the opposites attract thing isn't true... in the circumstance of romance, it's a fictional fantasy [19:50] <Expelliarmas> He was surprised at the ball because it's been Hermione's appearance which has really caused her to be teased [19:50] <Aislinn> I don't think he has any positive feelings for Hermione at all [19:50] * harryfreak359 takes a bucket [19:50] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> When he had DD at his mercy DD said not to use word mudblood [19:50] <JillianS642> it is definitely his general prejudice against mudbloods, I think, but I do wonder how he deals with other mudbloods - that's figure out the "love" thing, wouldn't it? [19:50] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL hf [19:50] <Dragons4Romania> it's an anger with himself because he actually might like a muggle.... overcompensating isn't he? [19:50] <Hedwigger7> excellent way of putting it fw -- Draco never grows up -- he's a punk. [19:50] <fawkes28> oh your right cedrella - bullies tease because they want to feel better about themselves and point out others' weasknesses [19:51] <gryffindelle> draco does *not* like hermione [19:51] <Hedwigger7> Agree Ais... [19:51] <harryfreak359> Agreed Aislinn [19:51] <futureweasley> draco's not a punk....he's just misunderstood [19:51] <harryfreak359> oh no [19:51] <SoonerGryffindor> oh my [19:51] <SoonerGryffindor>  [19:51] <Dragons4Romania> it's possible to hate someone you're attracted to.... [19:51] <Angelyka13> i dont think it is a like or love thing. I think he needed a target... and Harrys friend is better than just any muggle [19:51] <Aislinn> lol [19:51] <Dragons4Romania> unfortunately [19:51] <futureweasley> aren't Draco and Hermione like the modern-day Romeo and Juliet? [19:51] <CarpeDiem> I don't agree futureweasly , Ron and Hermione is boys and girls on the playground. Draco and Hermione is more of a weak bully relationship [19:51] <Expelliarmas> no, he would be quite pleased if Hermione kicked the bucket [19:51] <harryfreak359> Draco is Future's Snape [19:51] <Tanaqui> well, you know when you meet someone and they just rub you the wrong way? now imagine that happens and you're 15... [19:51] <Hedwigger7> No, Snape is misunderstood, Draco is a punk. [19:51] <TheAzkabanDietitian> NO furtureweasley they are not. [19:51] <DemetryCarrington> FW might have something there [19:52] * SoonerGryffindor is going to take FW to St Mungo's now [19:52] <Dragons4Romania> especially if it's someone Daddy would kill you if he found out [19:52] *** duckiemonkie has joined #lounge [19:52] <Tanaqui> makes me think of the teen in 'little miss sunshine' who vows to not speak for a year [19:52] <harryfreak359> thatnk you Hed [19:52] <fawkes28> lol sooner [19:52] <Aislinn> yes, angel - it accomplishes 2 things - reinforcing his prejudices as well as getting in a dig at Harry through his friend [19:52] <CedrellaBlack> the only thing is the only "weakness" draco can find is her being muggle born but its actually a strength becuse her magical ability is her way of sayin "In your face" to malfoy [19:52] <Hedwigger7> ixnay HarryFreak [19:52] <futureweasley> I can see what you are saying on that Carpe [19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> wb duckie [19:52] <duckiemonkie> Hello everyone! [19:52] <Dragons4Romania> I do agree that Hermione is threatening to Draco... goes against everything his father taught him [19:52] <JillianS642> oh, I must see Little Miss Sunshine! [19:53] <futureweasley> What did you think of Draco buying his way onto the Slytherin Quidditch team? [19:53] <Dragons4Romania> yes, see it Jillian! [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> git [19:53] <CedrellaBlack> typical [19:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> What about when Hermione slapped DRaco? [19:53] <Dragons4Romania> LOL FW [19:53] <gryffindelle> I hated him even more [19:53] <LordValerius> lady's man [19:53] <Aislinn> it seemed exactly like something he would do [19:53] <CedrellaBlack> i wasnt even surprised [19:53] <Tanaqui> i was disgusted by draco buying the team [19:53] <Dragons4Romania> gee, I never saw that coming smile [19:53] <Aislinn> money and position are more important than talent and hard work [19:53] <Hedwigger7> Yes CB, typical... entitlement again and not having to "do" anything... [19:53] <harryfreak359> I was absolutely disgusted [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> what I loved even more was Hermione's reacton to it [19:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes uses money & connections rather than ability [19:53] <Expelliarmas> Draco buying his way on was hilarious and typical. How else would a proper slytherin get on the team? [19:53] <futureweasley> well, Draco "bought" his way onto the quidditch team, and Ron "cheated" his way onto the quidditch team...is there really a big difference? [19:53] <Dragons4Romania> Draco = Abramovich [19:53] *** Spown has joined #lounge [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> she hit tthe nail on the head [19:53] <DemetryCarrington> I hated him for that, although he is pretty good [19:53] <fawkes28> i think it is important that he is for storyline purposes [19:53] <Spown> i'm back [19:53] <SoonerGryffindor> wb Spown [19:53] <harryfreak359> wb spown [19:54] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i was amused actually... it was a realistic turn of events [19:54] <Spown> thank you [19:54] <gryffindelle> huh dragons [19:54] <Aislinn> huge difference FW [19:54] <Expelliarmas> Ron did not cheat his way onto the team--remember, it was Hermione's helping hand [19:54] <DumbleDebbie> yep that was a fantastic comeback SOoner [19:54] <Dragons4Romania> throw enough money around and you'll get a team [19:54] <Aislinn> Ron didn't cheat, Hermione did [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> big difference FW [19:54] <futureweasley> Lucius acted on Draco's behalf...Hermione acted on Rodn't behalf [19:54] <Aislinn> and he may have made it on anyway [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Debbie, it was [19:54] <harryfreak359> yeah huge difference [19:54] <CedrellaBlack> Yes FW becuase it wasnt intetional on his part [19:54] <Aislinn> he was the better team player [19:54] <CedrellaBlack> it was hermione [19:54] <JillianS642> As much as Draco "bought" his way onto the team, he did turn out to be pretty decent, didn't he? [19:54] <CedrellaBlack> and she shouldnt have done it [19:54] <futureweasley> either way, the outcome was the same [19:54] <CedrellaBlack> but she did [19:54] <Aislinn> nope [19:54] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Oops have to go now. smile Bye! [19:54] <Tanaqui> the movie made me more disgusted than the book--tom felton has a great sneer [19:54] <Dragons4Romania> Ron deffo didn't BUY the whole team new brooms :-p [19:54] <CedrellaBlack> bye WWW [19:54] <fawkes28> bye [19:54] <harryfreak359> bye [19:54] <gryffindelle> bye www [19:54] <JillianS642> Are we sure anyone else would hav ebeen better ... makes me wonder abotu the rest of the slytherins. [19:54] <CarpeDiem> I think Draco buying his way onto the team is very typical of the Malfoy way. His father wanted him in a prominent position at school. Thiswas the best way to do that. [19:54] <Aislinn> because she knew he could play [19:54] <futureweasley> neither really deserved to be there [19:54] <Hedwigger7> Bye wagga! [19:54] <CarpeDiem> Bye WaggaWaggaWerewolf [19:54] <SoonerGryffindor> as much as I hate to admit it, Jillian has a point [19:55] <futureweasley> Lucius knew that Draco could play [19:55] *** WaggaWaggaWerewolf left #lounge [] [19:55] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Jo never let us see Draco catch a snitch... I think that's saying something [19:55] <harryfreak359> I think he would have gotten anyways [19:55] <Spown> could someone pm me the current topic? [19:55] <Aislinn> Ron tried out, and Harry had the option of picking him or not [19:55] <harryfreak359> McLaggen wouldn't have lasted [19:55] <futureweasley> What did you think of Draco buying his way onto the Slytherin Quidditch team? [19:55] <Aislinn> draco out and out bought his way onto the team [19:55] <CedrellaBlack> he doesnt have the talent to be on the team [19:55] <duckiemonkie> OH my gosh are you KIDDDING! i gotta go my mom wants me to take my dog out on a walk...FUN! [19:55] <JillianS642> wait you hate to admit I have a point??? [19:55] <duckiemonkie> Bye! [19:55] <Spown> ok, thanks [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> well, we all know that slytherin was the best after Gryf [19:55] <Expelliarmas> Why was Draco afraid to compete for the position? [19:55] <gryffindelle> bye duckie [19:55] <Dragons4Romania> with Draco it was about status... with Ron it was about desire to play [19:55] <DemetryCarrington> bye duckie [19:55] <Spown> I think it was typical of him. [19:55] <Leda> you know what's sad is ?maybe? maybe draco couldve beenon the team by talent??? [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> so I think Draco was probably pretty good [19:55] <DumbleDebbie> LOL Jullian [19:55] *** duckiemonkie has quit [Bye] [19:55] <Aislinn> right dragons [19:55] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [19:55] <TheAzkabanDietitian> no, with ron it is about status too [19:55] <futureweasley> it's wasn't really draco that bought the spot on the team [19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it is interesting that he plays seeker just like Harry does [19:55] <Spown> He doesn't do anything unless he's backed up with connections and/or money [19:56] <DemetryCarrington> lol Leda, or maybe not, but its a good thought [19:56] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Ron wants respect and admiration from others [19:56] <Leda> or maybe not [19:56] <futureweasley> so does Ron [19:56] <Dragons4Romania> with Harry of course it was about skill, and of course finding a "home".... and desire too [19:56] <Aislinn> he asked his daddy to buy him the spot FW [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> cause Jo could have make him another posistion, but she chose seeker [19:56] <futureweasley> I mean, Draco [19:56] <Tanaqui> i don't think draco was afraid to compete--he just wanted to be the golden boy of slytherin [19:56] <JillianS642> seeker is the highest profile position, so that makes sense for Draco [19:56] <Hedwigger7> Expel - because when you compete there's the possibility you could lose... [19:56] <Dragons4Romania> and having a few people buy him good brooms ;-) [19:56] <Leda> seeker draws the comparison with harry [19:56] <futureweasley> maybe...or maybe Lucius said "you will play quidditch" [19:56] <DumbleDebbie> I think he's almost Harry's mirror, so it makes sense [19:56] <Angelyka13> we never see draco catch the snitch but he must if they are in contention for winning [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it may also play in to book 7 as well [19:56] <Tanaqui> i mean, if you get everyone new brooms, they have to defer a few things to him [19:56] <Expelliarmas> Hed, that says a lot about Draco, no? [19:56] <Spown> sooner, it emphazises on the whole "rival" thing [19:56] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I was saying Draco and Ron have similiar desires FW [19:56] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah [19:56] <fawkes28> harry is the seeker of good and draco is the seeker of evil [19:57] <TheAzkabanDietitian> though not beliefs [19:57] <harryfreak359> yeah [19:57] <Angelyka13> I think he needed to buy his way onto the team in order to compete with Harry [19:57] <Aislinn> right, hed, and he didn't have any intention of playing fair - he planned to stack the deck in his own favor [19:57] <CedrellaBlack> interesting point fawkes [19:57] *** LordValerius left #lounge [] [19:57] <DemetryCarrington> How did Crab and Goyle get onto the team, talent? [19:57] <Leda> rivals, archenemies, exactly [19:57] <Spown> yes, aislinn [19:57] <Hedwigger7> Yep, he wants it provided on a silver platter, don't work for anything. [19:57] <DumbleDebbie> brawn [19:57] <Expelliarmas> crabbe and goyle got on for size and brutality [19:57] *** cloudpic has joined #lounge [19:57] <Dragons4Romania> Chelsea vs. Arsenal... lol [19:57] <fawkes28> if you don't play fair, you eventually get burned [19:57] <gryffindelle> hi cloudpic [19:57] <Tanaqui> crabbe and go....exactly what expe said [19:57] <futureweasley> hi cloudpic [19:57] <TheAzkabanDietitian> right fawkes [19:57] <fawkes28> hi cloudpic [19:57] <Spown> nice quote, fawkes [19:57] <Hedwigger7> Has Lucious taught Draco to be this way do poeple think? [19:57] <Dragons4Romania> one team bought its way to the title ;-) [19:57] <cloudpic> Hi all you Wize Wizards [19:58] <CedrellaBlack> good point fAEKS [19:58] <CedrellaBlack> sorry [19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> hi cloudpic [19:58] <Hedwigger7> Or is it really just the product of being spoiled? [19:58] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Yes Hed [19:58] <CedrellaBlack> fawkes* [19:58] <Expelliarmas> crabbe and goyle--no brains, no problem [19:58] <CedrellaBlack> lol expel [19:58] <Spown> "Like father, like son." [19:58] <Leda> having a lot of money by birth isn't exactly fair [19:58] <futureweasley> In POA, Draco (and to some extent Lucius) actively work to first have Hagrid dismissed and then to have Buckbeak executed. Why does Draco have such hatred for Hagrid? What did you think of Draco’s eagerness and excitement at the thought of Buckbeak’s execution? [19:58] <DumbleDebbie> hey cloudpic [19:58] <Aislinn> yes, he, I think lucius had a lot to do with it [19:58] <cloudpic> Howdy! [19:58] <fawkes28> yes, aislinn [19:58] <Spown> Draco despises the mudbloods as he calls them [19:58] <TheAzkabanDietitian> To FW.... he has a mental disease [19:58] <Dragons4Romania> half giant, perhaps? [19:58] <Tanaqui> hagrid's always been friends with the trio [19:58] <Hedwigger7> Again, the racism thing. He seems very into status and pueness... [19:58] <futureweasley> half breeds [19:58] <CedrellaBlack> Becuase hes a halfbreef [19:58] <Spown> It's obvious that Hagrid is a half-giant [19:59] <gryffindelle> hagrid is a half-breed and a friend to harry, and buckbeak is important to hagrid [19:59] <CedrellaBlack> breed* [19:59] <JillianS642> Again, it's deep-seeded prejudice against people who aren't like him. [19:59] <Hedwigger7> pu*r*eness... and influence from home I expect. [19:59] <cloudpic> I'm thinking that Draco is especially nasty to Hagrid because of his relationship to Harry and Ron and Hermoine [19:59] <DumbleDebbie> he sees Hagrid as sub-human [19:59] <Angelyka13> one his racism and two to get to harry and his friends [19:59] <CedrellaBlack> anything that is not pure wizrd is filth to the malfoys [19:59] <Aislinn> He made him opinion of Hagrid plain way back in that scene in the robe shop - he thinks of him as a second class citizen [19:59] <JillianS642> the excitement over the execution is, however, rather gruesome. [19:59] <Dragons4Romania> Hagrid doesn't exactly exude wealth either smile [19:59] <DemetryCarrington> Is Volde even in Poa?? Oh well, I think it is because Hagrid workd for DD that the Malfoy's hate him [19:59] <Aislinn> and not worthy of teaching him anything [19:59] <cloudpic> Not just his racism... but jealous of the friendship [19:59] <TheAzkabanDietitian> most likely because he wants to cause harm to harry [19:59] <Expelliarmas> I found his eagerness at the thought of buckbeak's execution--unseemly. [19:59] <JillianS642> again, probably doesn't really understand a thing about death so it still has some lure fo rhim. [19:59] <Dragons4Romania> and he actually makes the kids work in his classes! [19:59] <Tanaqui> i agree with cloudpic [19:59] <futureweasley> I think it could also have to do with how he dotes on "The Golden Trio" [19:59] <Hedwigger7> Ditto Expel. [19:59] <Leda> because dumbledore favors him, that and he's part giant [19:59] <futureweasley> Draco is jealous of the attention [19:59] <CedrellaBlack> im going to go eat dinner maybe ill be around for the end [19:59] <cloudpic> Expell LOL Unseemly...he was being a wretched git! [19:59] <CedrellaBlack> bye [19:59] <futureweasley> ok, see you ced [19:59] <DemetryCarrington> later ced [19:59] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [20:00] <Aislinn> see you cedrella [20:00] <fawkes28> draco is really afraid of everyone that is different from him it seems like draco was very isolated as a child with only people who were similiar to him hogwarts must have been a real "eyye-opener" for him [20:00] <Hedwigger7> Goes against all the stuff his folks teach him about superiority. [20:00] <JillianS642> good point, FW [20:00] <Dragons4Romania> since Buckbeak responded to harry but not to draco, no wonder draco wanted him dead [20:00] <cloudpic> Had it drilled into him that "these people" were potentially dangerous [20:00] * Expelliarmas likes understatements [20:00] <Aislinn> right hed [20:00] <SoonerGryffindor> oh yes, I think jealousy rules most of what Draco does [20:00] <Angelyka13> gotta go... bones is on bye smile [20:00] <Hedwigger7> "Dotes" fw? Or despises? [20:00] <DemetryCarrington> And because Buckbeak attacked Draco [20:00] <JillianS642> ohhh ... isolation! Never really thought about that as a major factor, fawkes - brilliant! [20:00] <Spown> Draco is a bully and makes fun at everyone, even the teachers if he can. Hagrid is so friendly and kind that Draco finds it funny to make fun of him or hurt him. [20:00] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Angel [20:00] <Dragons4Romania> yup DC [20:00] *** Angelyka13 left #lounge [] [20:00] <gryffindelle> bye angelyka [20:01] <Aislinn> good point spown [20:01] <Expelliarmas> Remember, Draco baited buckbeak to attack [20:01] <DemetryCarrington> bye ange....oh already left [20:01] <Tanaqui> perhaps draco was afraid of failing another class [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> yes spwon, and I would like to add that his prejudice also plays a part in that [20:01] <futureweasley> Well, Draco was his typical arrogant self [20:01] <Tanaqui> though i'm not really sure how you fail hagrid's courses [20:01] <cloudpic> I agree...like pulling the wings off ...dare I say it? Butterflies heh heh [20:01] <Spown> yes, sooner [20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> lol cp [20:01] <futureweasley> and was uneducated in the ways of the hippogriff [20:02] <fawkes28> draco has the mentally to "attack" someone before they "attack" him - it's a defense mechanism [20:02] <futureweasley> I would bet he learned a lesson there, though [20:02] *** Tanaqui left #lounge [] [20:02] <Expelliarmas> the anti-trio planned out how to create chaos in the class before Draco baited buckbeak [20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> stupid git [20:02] <futureweasley> yes, fawkes [20:02] <cloudpic> He was told to treat the hippogriff with respect. He couldn't manage respect. [20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Expie [20:02] *** BellaStar87 has joined #lounge [20:02] <Aislinn> and ignored Hagrid's teaching, and was his typical arrogant self, so ended up responsible for his own injury [20:02] <Hedwigger7> fawkes -- yea, its called bullying. [20:02] <Spown> Hagrid is the only teacher that Draco can make fun of without any consequences. I would like to see him tell McGonagol she's fat.... [20:02] * futureweasley puts soonergryffindor in time out [20:02] <Dragons4Romania> great point cp [20:02] <DumbleDebbie> the hippogriff incident goes back to not taking responsibilty for his own actins [20:02] <Hedwigger7> lol Spwon! [20:02] <DemetryCarrington> After hearing all this I hate to say that I now believe Draco is a baddie [20:02] <cloudpic> Good point DD [20:02] <Dragons4Romania> :-O fw [20:02] <Aislinn> exactly debbie [20:02] <Leda> draco's pretty rude to lupin too [20:02] <DumbleDebbie> blame it on BB or Hagrid [20:02] *** SoonerGryffindor has quit [Bye] [20:02] <Dragons4Romania> lol DC [20:03] <futureweasley> Draco is pretty rude in general [20:03] <Dragons4Romania> easily swayed huh? [20:03] *** SoonerGryffindor has joined #lounge [20:03] <Expelliarmas> Rude? Nah, more like a nasty piece of work. [20:03] <JillianS642> wb sooner! [20:03] <futureweasley> In POA, Draco milks his “injury” for all its worth. First, he has Ron and Harry cutting up his potion’s ingredients. Then he uses it to get the Slytherin team out of playing in bad conditions. Were you impressed by his sneakiness or outraged? Why? [20:03] <futureweasley> no, I'm not swaying on my opinion [20:03] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco may be a baddie, but with guidance and a permanent separation from "his" type of society, I think he could change [20:03] <cloudpic> Outraged... but I play favorites ;) [20:03] <Spown> pffft, anyone could do that. I wasn't impressed, I was outraged [20:03] <SoonerGryffindor> ha! that's what happens when FW gives you a time out guys--- [20:03] <futureweasley> but I do think he's rude and needs to get out from under Lucius's thumb [20:04] <Expelliarmas> I thought it was funny. And typical. [20:04] <Aislinn> it was really underhanded, mean spirited behaviour [20:04] <JillianS642> I was outraged because I have a hufflepuff opinion of fair play but it is impressive he knew how to manipulate so effectively. [20:04] <SoonerGryffindor> just kidding [20:04] <Dragons4Romania> both LOL [20:04] <DumbleDebbie> I'm astonished the staff let him get away with it when it was so clear he was faking [20:04] <Leda> do you think he gets his nastiness from dad and mom both? [20:04] <JillianS642> and not be seen as weak [20:04] <Aislinn> he was a total jerk, and milked his jerkiness for all it was worth [20:04] <cloudpic> He's more than rude though.... he is deliberately cruel to undermine any respect or authority that Hagrid has [20:04] <Hedwigger7> This may not be the right thing to ask, but do people think the film Draco is as bad as the book's? Esp. in that injured scene...? [20:04] <Spown> Mom+Dad=LV [20:04] <futureweasley> Arrogance from dad, nastiness from mom [20:04] <gryffindelle> outraged because he was being horrible to everyone around him [20:04] <Expelliarmas> Snape would of course let him get away with it. The hufflepuffs were too nice to object. [20:04] <fawkes28> he's a coward - not wanting to play in the rain [20:04] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think Draco's nastiness is all his own... influence from both sides of course [20:04] <BellaStar87> i have my up and downs about draco. like wouldnt you become a baddie if your parents were baddies to i mean he was raised with them maybe he can change and be his own person. he was crying in the bathroom!? but on the other hand he was very very rude to teachers and students [20:04] <Leda> i agree fw [20:05] <Aislinn> I doubt he pulled that kind of nonsense in McGonagall's class [20:05] <futureweasley> coward is pretty strong [20:05] <Dragons4Romania> pretty powerful kid, there.... hate him, but impressed none thes less [20:05] <Aislinn> he is a total coward FW [20:05] <Spown> lol, aislinn [20:05] <riefvly> lol dragons [20:05] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:05] <Aislinn> never does anything unless he has his goons with him [20:05] <Hedwigger7> Having his gang with him and always bullying is pretty cowardly fw... [20:05] <Dragons4Romania> again, the type to attract "followers" as a bully.... not friends, though [20:05] <Hedwigger7> (great minds Ais) [20:05] <fawkes28> seriously, harry wouldnt have wimped out of thegame [20:05] <cloudpic> He gets his dreadful behavior from both nature (inherited from a looooonnng line of nasties on both sides [20:05] <Aislinn> look at the way he panicked every time he had to go into the forbidden forest [20:05] <Aislinn> complete and utter coward [20:05] <JillianS642> so if he is a coward, why didn't any of the slytherin mock him for being hurt? [20:05] <Expelliarmas> But, Aislinn, how do you really feel? [20:05] <cloudpic> and nurture....following daddy's dreadful example [20:05] <futureweasley> I respectfully disagree...he's a Slytherin...cunning, but not cowardice [20:05] <Spown> But remember what Draco did in HBP [20:06] <JillianS642> yarg - is seen as a coward. [20:06] <Dragons4Romania> both nature and nurture, cp? [20:06] <fawkes28> because they are cowards too [20:06] <cloudpic> How could he know any different? [20:06] <Hedwigger7> Ok, fw, what about weeping in the bathroom -- and the Tower? [20:06] <DumbleDebbie> bullies are usually cowards [20:06] <gryffindelle> hi carpe [20:06] <Leda> he kind of grows out of his cowardice by book 6 [20:06] <SoonerGryffindor> he;s just a big girlie-man [20:06] <Dragons4Romania> so do you think DD managed to un-nurture him a bit? [20:06] <cloudpic> Weeping can be a sign of utter despair... [20:06] <Aislinn> he bullies people, he makes sure he does it with 2 guys backing him up [20:06] <cloudpic> I don't think tears are a sign of cowardice [20:06] <Leda> well hy sticks with something he is absolutely afraid to de [20:06] <DemetryCarrington> LMFAO Sooner!!! [20:06] <Aislinn> how is he NOT a coward? [20:07] <futureweasley> I don't think he was ever really a coward...he just looked out for himself and his own safety [20:07] <fawkes28> i agree completely, aislinn [20:07] <cloudpic> I don't think JKR included that to make him seem worse... but rather, better! [20:07] <Aislinn> I've never seen him do one thing that took real courage [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> well, it didnt work on me [20:07] <DemetryCarrington> As the sorting hat says, all Slytherin's care about are them selves [20:07] <Leda> well he could have been too afraid NOT to do LV's bidding [20:07] <Spown> I agree, cludpic It showed us that even Draco can have feelings [20:07] <DumbleDebbie> I brave boy wouldn't need C&G 24/7 [20:07] <Hedwigger7> I didn't buy it however... the tears didn't move me. He srying because he doesn't have anyone to cover for him... [20:07] <Spown> *cloudpic sorry [20:07] <Dragons4Romania> did DD have any effect on Draco by book 6? [20:07] <futureweasley> What were your thoughts when Hermione smacked Draco in POA? [20:07] <JillianS642> yeah, i think that's what it is, fw. Not cowardice so much as looking after himself (very slytherin) [20:07] <Expelliarmas> let's see he avoids any situation where he might lose, he goes out of his way to pick on defenseless people, he has bodyguyards? [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> woot!!! [20:07] <cloudpic> OK spown! [20:07] <Aislinn> he was crying because he was afraid for his own skin [20:07] <fawkes28> sooner [20:07] <Aislinn> coward, coward, coward [20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> I thought she was a goddess when she did that [20:07] <cloudpic> I've been called worse ;D [20:08] <Hedwigger7> you go girl! [20:08] <SoonerGryffindor> (sorry fawkes) [20:08] <Dragons4Romania> same as Hermione.... that felt GOOD [20:08] <JillianS642> I liked it ... but then I kicked someone to prove that girls can do karate, so who am I to talk! [20:08] <Leda> he's got lots of feelings that he buries to seem tough [20:08] <Dragons4Romania> smile [20:08] <Spown> OMG! Hermione hitting Draco?! BEST SCENE EVER!!!! [20:08] <cloudpic> What is he afraid of if you believe him a coward? [20:08] <DumbleDebbie> you go girl! [20:08] <Expelliarmas> Ah, Hermione smacking Draco--how perfect was that? Nothing he could do about it, either [20:08] <futureweasley> I was scared for Hermione, actually [20:08] <Aislinn> ran away from hermione when she slapped him [20:08] <BellaStar87> he only did stupid stuff because he knew his father would have his back no matter what but when he got himself locked up he begain to become weak [20:08] <Aislinn> can't even stand up to a girl [20:08] <cloudpic> He wanted to play Quidditch...and it's rather violent [20:08] <Leda> very satisfying!!! [20:08] <gryffindelle> I was happy that someone finally had the courage to stand up to draco, and that it was hermione was cool too [20:08] <fawkes28> lol [20:08] <futureweasley> Aislinn! [20:08] <Dragons4Romania> don't think the spoiled brat ever got smacked before.... [20:08] <cloudpic> He wanted to try to work for Voldemort [20:08] <Dragons4Romania> lol [20:08] <Spown> lol, yeah [20:08] <Hedwigger7> Why fw? Scared for her how? [20:08] * SoonerGryffindor likes that thought [20:08] <Spown> he's so spoiled [20:09] <DemetryCarrington> It's about damn time, i thought lol [20:09] *** DemetryCarrington has quit [Bye] [20:09] <cloudpic> Being spoiled isn't his fault [20:09] <futureweasley> I thought for sure that there would be repercussions [20:09] <Spown> of course not [20:09] *** DemetryCarrington has joined #lounge [20:09] <Leda> he's kind of like dudley, spoiled, coddled [20:09] <Spown> I'm spoiled [20:09] <CarpeDiem> Now now, in Draco's defence, Hermione is not "just a girl". I was more amazed that he was able to push her that far. Hermione does not loose her temper that often. It was fun to see smile [20:09] <SoonerGryffindor> how funny that all 3 of them have physically smacked him! laugh [20:09] <Spown> VERY SPOILED but can't help it [20:09] <Dragons4Romania> of course Hermione spoke for all of us in the film, too... [20:09] <futureweasley> seriously, CD... [20:09] <Aislinn> it was brilliant smile [20:09] <Hedwigger7> McGonagall would've faced Snape down if there had been trouble, fw. [20:09] <cloudpic> He didn't hit Hermione back. I coward would have. [20:09] <Leda> but his dad's so emotinally cool toward him [20:09] <BellaStar87> maybe he just said he wanted to work for Voldie because he wanted everyone to this he was cool but deep down he was scared for his and his familys life [20:09] <futureweasley> Hermione is anything but "the girl next door" [20:10] <Aislinn> not in his eyes though [20:10] <Hedwigger7> Good idea Bella; he wants to prove he really has nerve and guts -- but he doesn't. [20:10] <DemetryCarrington> lol FW, so true, so true [20:10] <Expelliarmas> he didn't think to hit her back. had he hit her back he would've been called a coward for sure [20:10] <cloudpic> Probably... but did it just the same...he's a git, but not entirely stupid [20:10] <JillianS642> yeah, I think it's very out of character for Hermie ... but I must concentrate on Draco. Oddly, he couldn't even tell on her because then he'd have to say that she hit him. [20:10] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco reminds me very much of Regulus in that resepct Bella [20:10] <Dragons4Romania> Draco's not used to someone not backing down from him... well not until then LOL [20:10] <JillianS642> any of the boys would have gotten in trouble because he would have told. [20:10] <SoonerGryffindor> actually Expie, I think he is the kind of guy who would hit a girl [20:10] <cloudpic> She was stressed. [20:10] <Expelliarmas> instead of hitting her back, he ran [20:10] <futureweasley> Braun and brains...Hermione is truly everything Draco wishes he was [20:10] <cloudpic> But he didn't [20:10] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL fw [20:10] <Spown> lol, future [20:10] <CarpeDiem> Good point Aislinn, it's twice as bad that it was Hermione. She's someone he picked on constantly in that book. A great example of standing up to you bully. [20:10] <JillianS642> lol [20:10] <fawkes28> Aah, future what are we going to do with you? [20:10] <cloudpic> I don't picture Lucius hitting.... [20:11] <Dragons4Romania> spoiled, not used to fighting his own battles... daddy fought them for him [20:11] <Aislinn> exactly carpe [20:11] <cloudpic> not Draco or Narcissa [20:11] <futureweasley> I don't know...I refrained from saying "she's everything he wants" [20:11] <cloudpic> Daddy doesn't fight battles directly... [20:11] <Leda> lucius is more the neglectful kind [20:11] <JillianS642> neither, cloud. He'd be cold and distant - not hitting people. [20:11] <Dragons4Romania> cp, it's more emotional violence where Lucius is concerned [20:11] <Dragons4Romania> snap Jillian [20:11] <cloudpic> Absolutely [20:11] <Spown> i'll be right back guys [20:11] <Spown> bye for now [20:11] <cloudpic> abuse Dragons [20:11] <Leda> exactly dragons [20:11] <Aislinn> that's true dragons [20:11] <cloudpic> OK [20:11] <futureweasley> When the trio encounter Draco in the woods during the Quidditch World Cup, he seems to warn Hermione to stay out of the path of danger. At the same time he stands there insulting her and calling her a mudblood. Why would he still call her a mudblood when he's seen how talented she is? Did he have motivations for warning her or was he simply not thinking about what he was saying? [20:12] <Dragons4Romania> *Coldness* [20:12] <JillianS642> later spown [20:12] <SoonerGryffindor> bye spown [20:12] <gryffindelle> bye spown [20:12] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [20:12] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i have always wanted to know why he warned her to be careful... interesting [20:12] <Aislinn> I don't think he was warning her - I think he was trying to scare her, and taunt her [20:12] <DemetryCarrington> I think he WAS insulting her, but sub-conciously warning her to leave [20:12] <fawkes28> i think he is trying to get under her skin [20:12] <SoonerGryffindor> cause he's stupid that way [20:12] <cloudpic> He was showing off that he knew what was going on [20:12] <DumbleDebbie> doesn't matter how talented she is, she was still Muggle-born [20:12] <Expelliarmas> he was busy taunting her--it wasn't a warning [20:12] <JillianS642> I don't think he was thinking about what he was saying. He was showing off for them - not trying to save her. [20:12] <Hedwigger7> Agreed Ais. [20:12] <gryffindelle> He wasn't thinking about what he was saying [20:12] <cloudpic> Yeah, Jillian [20:12] *** riefvly has quit [Bye] [20:12] <Hedwigger7> Yes cloudpic [20:12] <Expelliarmas> lol sooner [20:13] <DumbleDebbie> I thienk the 'be careful' was sarcastic [20:13] <Dragons4Romania> we're killing traitors, not muggles... out of the way [20:13] <TheAzkabanDietitian> i don't think he was trying to protect her either... [20:13] <DemetryCarrington> Ais, you definitely a Draco, Hermione Snip [20:13] <Aislinn> to him, he was in a perfect situation to bully her, as he figured he had the whole crowd of DE's as backup [20:13] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry, but I cant help it [20:13] *** DMD has joined #lounge [20:13] <Aislinn> yeah, not even close demetry smile [20:13] <Dragons4Romania> more that she was interfering with DEs than in danger herself [20:13] <DemetryCarrington> lol [20:13] <gryffindelle> he was just trying to bully her, even if he inadvertently warned her [20:13] <DMD> How do I possibly catch up on what I've missed? [20:13] <SoonerGryffindor> wb DMD [20:13] <futureweasley> When the trio encounter Draco in the woods during the Quidditch World Cup, he seems to warn Hermione to stay out of the path of danger. At the same time he stands there insulting her and calling her a mudblood. Why would he still call her a mudblood when he's seen how talented she is? Did he have motivations for warning her or was he simply not thinking about what he was saying? [20:13] <fawkes28> hey dmd! [20:13] <JillianS642> As for why he continues to call her mudblood and hate her - he was raised with it and it's his world view. He's not changing it just because sh'e good at magic [20:13] <futureweasley> that's the question, DMD [20:14] * Expelliarmas would've liked for Hermione to jinx Draco in the woods! [20:14] <CarpeDiem> I like that Dragons, he know's what she's capable of and didn't want her ruining things! smile [20:14] <JillianS642> yarg. darned spelling errors. [20:14] * SoonerGryffindor would like that too [20:14] <futureweasley> why would he warn her if he wasn't really fearful for her safety? [20:14] <DMD> hey fawkes!! [20:14] <Aislinn> he wasn't warning her, FW [20:14] <Expelliarmas> no way he was warning her [20:14] <fawkes28> lol expel...i bet future would like them to do something else in the woods so she can write her story [20:14] <Leda> well she's a kid like he is and at least that much he is able to relate to [20:14] <Dragons4Romania> with DEs making an appearance, why would Draco *not* call her that? [20:14] <JillianS642> lol, fawkes! [20:14] <SoonerGryffindor> *needs the bucket again* [20:14] <Hedwigger7> fw, it was sarcasm... or baiting or both. [20:15] <Dragons4Romania> with his father possibly overhearing what he says, of course he'd want to look tough [20:15] <Aislinn> exactly hed [20:15] <futureweasley> I think it's both [20:15] <Leda> bucket?? oh. [20:15] <Dragons4Romania> thanx Carpe [20:15] <DumbleDebbie> :puke: <--- Sooner [20:15] <futureweasley> I'm just saying, he was ribbing her [20:15] <Aislinn> it was a total taunt [20:15] <JillianS642> Would Draco consider Hermie a "kid like he is" though, Leda? [20:15] <futureweasley> exactly [20:15] <Aislinn> better watch out! - totally trying to freak her out [20:15] <DMD> He's just horribly jealous. Anything he can say to throw her off her game is good. [20:15] <Dragons4Romania> Sooner, some Tums might help with that ;-) [20:15] <Hedwigger7> Not in good fun, fw. Taunting is not in fun. [20:15] <Expelliarmas> Daddy wasn't around to hear, he was in a mask abusing muggles--Draco's example of bravery [20:15] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:16] <gryffindelle> :puke: [20:16] <Leda> same age, same grade in school, but from the other side of the tracks [20:16] <gryffindelle>  [20:16] <JillianS642> it's good fun for the taunter, though.  [20:16] <futureweasley> taunting is fun for the taunter [20:16] <Hedwigger7> Yep Jill and that would be Draco all over... [20:16] <TheAzkabanDietitian> "leader of the pack" is playing in my head now, thanks guys XD [20:16] <Aislinn> lol [20:16] <gryffindelle>  [20:16] <Dragons4Romania> hmmm it must be contagious [20:16] <JillianS642> gahhh! cruel Dietitian! [20:16] <DemetryCarrington> OMG me too Azkaban!!!! [20:17] <CarpeDiem> lol *vroom Vroom*! [20:17] <gryffindelle> smile [20:17] <futureweasley> In GOF, Draco knew Rita Skeeter was an Animagi and he helped her get dirt on Harry. Why was Draco so helpful to her [20:17] * Dragons4Romania hands some tums n' a bucket to gryffindelle [20:17] * harryfreak359 is back [20:17] <JillianS642> Because she mocked Harry. [20:17] <DemetryCarrington> Yea, what Jillian said [20:17] <Hedwigger7> Oh come on, to do Harry more dirt. He wants to be The Chosen One, or Chosen Something. [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> because it hurt Harry [20:17] <TheAzkabanDietitian> He HATES HARRY... [20:17] <Expelliarmas> because she was ripping harry to shreds [20:17] <futureweasley> let's try that again [20:17] <Aislinn> anything that could give Harry a hard time would be greatly appealing to Draco [20:17] <TheAzkabanDietitian> that simple [20:17] *** devnet has joined #lounge [20:17] <futureweasley> In GOF, Draco knew Rita Skeeter was an Animagi and he helped her get dirt on Harry. Why was Draco so helpful to her? [20:17] * gryffindelle thanks dragons [20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> anything to go against harry is a good thing to do [20:17] <futureweasley> hi devnet [20:17] <Leda> yeah he wants harry humiliated in print [20:17] *** devnet has quit [Bye] [20:17] <DumbleDebbie> right Sooner [20:17] <Dragons4Romania> expelliarmus.... muggles, at the quidditch world cup? where? [20:17] <DMD> But he'll never have command of the wichcraft that she has and he knows it. He's a prodeuct of his envirnment. Just because you're a pureblood, doesn't make you a great witch or wizard these days. So he puffs up like a peacock. [20:18] <JillianS642> has Draco ever been chosen? For anything? [20:18] <DemetryCarrington> i think you scared devnet FW lol [20:18] <fawkes28> wants harry to get some bad press [20:18] <gryffindelle> yeah sooner [20:18] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:18] <Expelliarmas> the muggles were running the campground, Dragons [20:18] <cloudpic> It's like something his dad would do... use someone to get an enemy [20:18] <CarpeDiem> I think Draco is down for anything that will likely cast Harry in a poor light. [20:18] <futureweasley> I think Draco was trying to make Harry look as bad to the Wizarding Community as a whole as he could [20:18] <harryfreak359> yeah [20:18] *** CedrellaBlack has joined #lounge [20:18] <DMD> He was chosen for the duel. [20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> how many times during a chat is t acceptable to type "stupid git?" [20:18] <Hedwigger7> wb cb [20:18] <Leda> its early training for his MOM career [20:18] *** Rebekia has joined #lounge [20:18] <CedrellaBlack> hey guts im back [20:18] <Aislinn> especially with Harry being one of the Triwizard champions - that would have really galled Draco [20:18] <Hedwigger7> lol Leda [20:18] <DemetryCarrington> Stupid git he is [20:18] <JillianS642> constantly, sooner, constantly. [20:19] <CedrellaBlack> guys* [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> cause I may go over my limit on this one [20:19] <Dragons4Romania> but the DEs were rampaging through the wizard tents, as much as doing anything to muggles [20:19] <CarpeDiem> lol sooner. I think an exception could be made with this topic smile [20:19] <fawkes28> lol [20:19] <CedrellaBlack> whats the question? [20:19] <harryfreak359> lol sooner [20:19] <Aislinn> hi, cedrella - wb [20:19] <Rebekia> I'm really smart. I was sitting in another chat room thing waiting for people to talk smile [20:19] <Dragons4Romania> as far as Rita, skeezy is as skeezy does [20:19] <Expelliarmas> well, Draco came upo with "Potter Stinks" badges and got a lot of people to wear them, not just Slytherins [20:19] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:19] <Leda> is stupid git a bad word? [20:19] <CedrellaBlack> thanks aislinn [20:19] <Aislinn> we're talking about Draco helping Rita [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Rebekia [20:19] <Dragons4Romania> mutual back scratchin' [20:19] <CedrellaBlack> thanks [20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> wecome to the Draco chat [20:19] <Rebekia> Hey Sooner! biggrin [20:19] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [20:19] <DMD> Rita went with the celebrity name-Malfoy. [20:19] <DemetryCarrington> Leda I sent you a PM...stupid git is like bloody hell [20:20] <futureweasley> yes, DMD... [20:20] <Expelliarmas> Those badges showed just how jealous Draco was about Harry being a triwizard champion [20:20] <TheAzkabanDietitian> stupid git is a wonderful phrase [20:20] <CedrellaBlack> Well he gave her lots of "harry potter facts" and things that made him llook bad [20:20] <DemetryCarrington> lol azkaban' [20:20] <JillianS642> I agree, expell. [20:20] <Dragons4Romania> Ron uses it often, Azkaban [20:20] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:20] <DumbleDebbie> hi rebekia [20:20] <futureweasley> definitely a name that carried a lot of clout in the wizarding world [20:20] <Dragons4Romania> smile [20:20] <CarpeDiem> Rita is also a "famous" reporter. It never hurts to rub elbows with those in power. Exactly like Dragons was saying. [20:20] <JillianS642> So jealous, he had to take him down a few notches. [20:20] <Rebekia> What's the question? [20:20] <harryfreak359> exactly Carpe [20:20] <Leda> thanks DC [20:20] <CedrellaBlack> half giant thing that was so mean didnt he quote something in that peice [20:20] <JillianS642> I'm sure Lucius would appreciate if his son was a tad more descerning about how he did it though. [20:20] <DemetryCarrington> No prob, lol its a weird PM though LOL [20:21] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [20:21] <Dragons4Romania> thanks DC..... [20:21] <Expelliarmas> Rebekia, we're taling about why Draco helped Rita with juicy tidbits [20:21] <DemetryCarrington> Thanks for what Dragons?? [20:21] <Dragons4Romania> gotta watch the British words too, don't we smile [20:21] <Dragons4Romania> hehe [20:21] *** DumbleDebbie has joined #lounge [20:21] <DMD> Yes Lucius seems to hate that Drako is so obvious...hasn't learned the backroom politics of the old man yet. [20:21] <futureweasley> Draco isn’t much of a player in GOF, but we get some insight into him at the farewell feast and on the train. At the feast, Draco (along with quite a few Slytherins) doesn’t stand when Harry is toasted. Why not? [20:21] * Dragons4Romania is a yank, needs to know which Brit words are banned ;-) [20:21] <CedrellaBlack> I deffinetely he gets involved with being the one that always quotes in rita's news stories [20:22] <fawkes28> true, DMD [20:22] <Expelliarmas> The slytherins that didn't stand likely had daddy's as DEs [20:22] <Dragons4Romania> oops meant Yannk [20:22] * SoonerGryffindor cannot imagine Draco standing up for anyting in Harrys honor [20:22] <Expelliarmas> so why would they stand for Harry? [20:22] <Dragons4Romania> lol spelling grrrrrrr [20:22] <futureweasley> because he has no manners [20:22] <JillianS642> Some British words are banned? Yikes, can someone PM me which ones before I use them? [20:22] <harryfreak359> hey guys...I am going to have to go, my friend is sorta in a bit of trouble and needs my help [20:22] <fawkes28> because he's a git smile [20:22] <Rebekia> Draco is just like his dad [20:22] <Leda> lucius should give draco slimeball lessons in his MOM summer internship just kidding [20:22] <DemetryCarrington> Did other Slytherins stand except for the younger DE kids [20:22] <gryffindelle> because why would he stand while his enemy is toasted [20:22] <CarpeDiem> OKay see ya later harryfreak [20:22] <DMD> bye harryfreak [20:22] <SoonerGryffindor> stupid git [20:22] <harryfreak359> Is the this chat going to continue in the CoC afterwards? [20:22] <fawkes28> bye hf [20:22] <futureweasley> ooh, now Lucius is a smileball? [20:22] <DumbleDebbie> stupid git [20:22] <Aislinn> there is no way he would honor Harry in that way [20:22] <Rebekia> what's CoC? [20:22] <CarpeDiem> Yes it will be harryfreak! [20:22] <DemetryCarrington> lol sooner, bye HF [20:23] <Leda> slytherins stand up for each other [20:23] <Dragons4Romania> well I was assuming they were Jillian... check iwth Sooner hehe [20:23] <harryfreak359> cool I [20:23] <futureweasley> CoC = Chamber of Chat [20:23] <gryffindelle> bye hf [20:23] <Aislinn> bye hf [20:23] <harryfreak359> I'll try to be there [20:23] <SoonerGryffindor> who said smileball? [20:23] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:23] <Dragons4Romania> lol [20:23] <harryfreak359> sorry had to add that [20:23] <Leda> slimeball? smileball? or both! [20:23] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [20:23] <Expelliarmas> okay, must teach class, students arriving. see everyone later. [20:23] <DMD> Are we back to that? [20:23] <DumbleDebbie> sneerball? [20:23] * futureweasley looks around for the culprite [20:23] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Expie [20:23] <CarpeDiem> Bye Expell! [20:23] <fawkes28> bye expel [20:23] <Rebekia> *blink* [20:23] <Hedwigger7> bye Expel! [20:23] <Dragons4Romania> smile <--- smileball [20:23] <JillianS642> Hmmm ... I'm just not sure about making such a public statement by not standing up to toast Harry ... seems really risky for all those kids. [20:23] <futureweasley> bye expie [20:23] <DMD> bye ex [20:23] <gryffindelle> bye expel [20:23] *** Expelliarmas left #lounge [] [20:24] <Aislinn> that's a good point jillian [20:24] <futureweasley> I think Draco was just standing on his beliefs [20:24] <JillianS642> Unless they were just assuming Voldie either wasn't back (and harry was lying) or he was back and about to take over teh world in two weeks ... [20:24] <DemetryCarrington> bye expe....darn it happend again [20:24] <Rebekia> um...so what are we talking about? [20:24] <Hedwigger7> I rather think all the students know Malfoy has it in for Potter... [20:24] <Leda> bye this was fun! [20:24] <Rebekia> I'm so lost [20:24] <JillianS642> yarg. must work on typing skills. [20:24] <DMD> He didn't stand up for anything except his own house honors, ever. [20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> draco-- stupid git [20:24] <DemetryCarrington> bye leda [20:24] <Aislinn> bye leda! [20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> bye leda [20:24] <Dragons4Romania> as a spoiled brat, Draco is acting to type by not standing up [20:24] <gryffindelle> bye leda [20:24] <futureweasley> that's true, DMD [20:24] <JillianS642> We're talking about why Draco and some other slytherins didn't stand to toast Harry at the end of GOF [20:24] <fawkes28> bye leda [20:24] <gryffindelle> *leda [20:24] <gryffindelle> sorry [20:24] <JillianS642> more or less. [20:25] <Rebekia> Thanks Jillian! [20:25] <futureweasley> that goes back to his self-involvedness [20:25] <Dragons4Romania> he won't be seen acknowledging Harry has done *anything* good [20:25] <Hedwigger7> You go DC [20:25] <DMD> He can't [20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> you would think that they would have at least had the decency to stand for Cedric [20:25] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [20:25] <Rebekia> You would think not standing would be a dead giveaway that you and your parents are all evil [20:25] <JillianS642> least I can do for the Divination Station sig queen! [20:25] <DemetryCarrington> Me go Hed??? [20:25] <Dragons4Romania> gotta go soon [20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Rebekia [20:25] <JillianS642> exactly, Rebekia! [20:25] <CedrellaBlack> That was repulsive i agree with you sooner [20:25] <futureweasley> why? what did Cedric ever do for Draco? [20:25] <Hedwigger7> Oops, I guess that was Sooner, "gitting" on and on... [20:25] <Rebekia> Yay! Thanks Jillian! hee hee [20:25] <DemetryCarrington> lol [20:25] <Dragons4Romania> women's soccer... on TV [20:25] <Aislinn> simple respect for the dead, FW [20:26] <Aislinn> is that not enough? [20:26] <Dragons4Romania> USA v. Mezico... [20:26] <DMD> It's expected the Slytherins will act the way they do, even by the wizarding community as a whole. [20:26] <futureweasley> I know, I agreee [20:26] <DemetryCarrington> I think we need a new question [20:26] <Dragons4Romania> *Mexico [20:26] <DumbleDebbie> fw, Cedric was *dead*, they could've had a little respect [20:26] *** Leda has quit [Bye] [20:26] <futureweasley> I was speaking from Draco's prospective [20:26] <CarpeDiem> I think the non-toasting was more a pout of sorts than anything else. Didn't he do the same in PS/SS when Harry got extra points at the end, or was that just the movie? smile [20:26] <Rebekia> Exactly DD [20:26] <JillianS642> Makes me wish I had TV and was american, Dragons. [20:26] <CedrellaBlack> he died, and did nothing to deserve it, draco should have stood up [20:26] *** Spown has joined #lounge [20:26] <Dragons4Romania> it's been fun, everyone.... hope Leaky lets me in next time [20:26] <SoonerGryffindor> wb spown [20:26] <JillianS642> later! [20:26] <Spown> hi everyone [20:26] <gryffindelle> wb spown [20:26] <Dragons4Romania> 2-1 USA) [20:26] <Spown> did I miss it? [20:26] <CedrellaBlack> bye [20:26] <DemetryCarrington> later dragons [20:26] <Hedwigger7> now you go DC [20:26] <futureweasley> In OOTP, Dumbledore actually makes Draco a prefect. Draco almost immediately begins abusing his power. Did Dumbledore lose his mind? Why did he make Draco a prefect? [20:26] <Rebekia> It's out of respect for the dead. Draco pretty much sneered and threw confetti at the death of Cedric [20:26] <Aislinn> yes, that was exactly his attitude, FW [20:26] <Dragons4Romania> bye all [20:27] *** Dragons4Romania left #lounge [] [20:27] <DemetryCarrington> It wasn't me Hed LOL [20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> thats such a funny question [20:27] <CedrellaBlack> Bcause out of all the slytherins he seems to be the leader [20:27] <JillianS642> exactly, cedrella [20:27] <Rebekia> I've wondered that too. But it usually has to do with position with the other classmates or housemates [20:27] <CedrellaBlack> Prefects arent exactly perfect [20:27] <fawkes28> maybe he thought he would meet the high expectations [20:27] <Spown> Draco was the only one eligible for a prefect or he threatened the others [20:27] <Rebekia> and also about grades [20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> well, can you imagine either crabbe or goyle as prefects? [20:27] <Spown> lol [20:27] <JillianS642> hmm, yeah, maybe he was trying to show some faith in Draco [20:27] <DMD> I think DD did that because he knows Draco is the "leader" of that house anyway. Perhaps there was a chance he'd make something of himself. [20:27] <DemetryCarrington> Maybe DD thought he could change Draco... [20:27] <DumbleDebbie> who else would he choose from Slytherin? [20:27] <futureweasley> I think Draco is a natural born leader...his skills just need to be reevaluated [20:27] <fawkes28> reverse psychology doesnt work on draco apparantly [20:27] <Rebekia> Is it just Dumbledore who decides? OR do the teachers get together for a panal This post has been edited by SoonerGryffindor: Sep 13 2006, 11:04 PM -------------------- |
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[20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> good question rebekia
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> maybe Draco was the best choice of the lot (perish the thought) [20:28] <Spown> i think it's the teachers as a whole [20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> for all we know the HoH could be making that decision [20:28] <Aislinn> yes DMD [20:28] <CedrellaBlack> lol dumble [20:28] <Spown> but DD gets the final vote [20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> in which case, the smileball decided smile [20:28] <DMD> A board in the back of his head may work for Draco. [20:28] <gryffindelle> thats what most of the slytherins are like anyway [20:28] *** Pleshette has joined #lounge [20:28] <CarpeDiem> I think DD has a lot to consider when choosing Prefects. Not only grades and following the rules but also...exactly! How much that person is respected. Would DD have gotten any better choosing someone other than Draco as Prefect? Crabbe? Goyle? [20:28] <Hedwigger7> where's the bucket? Natural born leader?? [20:28] <CedrellaBlack> lol sooner [20:28] <futureweasley> DD has "veto" power on who is and is not Prefects? [20:28] <JillianS642> yeah, that's what I figured Sooner [20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Pleshette [20:28] <Aislinn> I think DD tries to give people the chance to do the right thing, and he may have been giving Draco a chance here [20:28] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette [20:28] <Rebekia> Exactly Sooner! [20:28] <CedrellaBlack> hey pleshette [20:28] <Spown> yes fw [20:28] <fawkes28> i'd rather pick draco then crabbe or goyle [20:28] <Pleshette> Hi everyone! [20:29] <Spown> hello [20:29] <DemetryCarrington> Hey Pleshette [20:29] <DumbleDebbie> hi Plesh [20:29] <DMD> who are the other choices? Aren't there 5? [20:29] <CedrellaBlack> i think crabbe and goyle wouldnt notice what is going on around them [20:29] <fawkes28> hi pleshette [20:29] * SoonerGryffindor hands Hed the bucket [20:29] <Pleshette> Have we talked about the Smileball yet? [20:29] <JillianS642> hey pleshette - why do you think Draco was made prefect? [20:29] <Rebekia> But there are a ton of other slytherins to choose from. I really think it may have weighed a lot on snapes infulence [20:29] <CedrellaBlack> their brains are too think to be prefects [20:29] <DMD> hey plesh. [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Pleshette [20:29] * futureweasley kindly requests that "smileball" become a "banned word" in the Corner Booth [20:29] <CarpeDiem> I like that thought too Aislinn. I bet Riddle was a Prefect as well....was he? smile [20:29] <Aislinn> not tons - just 5 [20:29] <BellaStar87> who was the girl perfect for slytherins again? [20:29] <Aislinn> at the most [20:29] <JillianS642> Pansy [20:29] <JillianS642> I think [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> ansy [20:29] <BellaStar87> thought so [20:29] <Aislinn> I think he may have been carpe [20:29] <SoonerGryffindor> or Pansy even [20:30] <DemetryCarrington> lol sooner [20:30] <futureweasley> Ansy Pansy [20:30] <fawkes28> lol sooner [20:30] *** Tanaqui has joined #lounge [20:30] <Pleshette> Well, he does have leadership qualities [20:30] <futureweasley> thank you Pleshette! [20:30] <Pleshette> lol fw [20:30] <CedrellaBlack> Evil leadership quatilies [20:30] <SoonerGryffindor> blushing [20:30] <CedrellaBlack> lol [20:30] <Rebekia> Good point Pleshette [20:30] <JillianS642> he sure does, Pleshette but yeah, he's evil! [20:30] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has joined #lounge [20:30] <Aislinn> he definitely was the leader of his gang [20:30] <DMD> To lead into he.... [20:30] <DumbleDebbie> ansy Pansy? ;) [20:30] <Aislinn> I can't see crabbe or goyle being able to handle it [20:30] <JillianS642> Does Ron have leadership qualities though? [20:30] <Pleshette> Well, yeah Jillian I agree [20:30] <Hedwigger7> Takes a lot to lead Crabe and Goyle, doesn't it? [20:30] <Rebekia> draco) [20:30] <Spown> well, remember that DD always sees the good in people. He probably thought that by giving Draco additional responcibility, he'll be more responcible???? [20:30] <Hedwigger7> Skill... [20:30] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Ron is a leader. [20:30] <Aislinn> he has the potential, jillian [20:31] <SoonerGryffindor> well I think he's been attending evile overlord classes [20:31] <Aislinn> right spown [20:31] <Pleshette> Ron can, but doesn't have enough confidence yet [20:31] <Rebekia> He doesn't have people skills but he can get a lot of people behind him [20:31] <JillianS642> well, there should be some Slytherin with potential, no? [20:31] <BellaStar87> i think ron does but he has all his brothers to live up to that no one notices. [20:31] <DemetryCarrington> Maybe that gleam in DD's eyes is him seing the good in people [20:31] <DumbleDebbie> does smileball teach those Sooner? [20:31] <CedrellaBlack> I think Ron knows there are lines you dont cross Draco doesnt know his boundaries and becuse of that ron makes a better prefect [20:31] *** cloudpic has quit [Bye] [20:31] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [20:31] <JillianS642> lol, dd! [20:31] <DMD> Trouble is we just see things from Harry's POV. [20:31] <Aislinn> the only other one we know is in their year is Blaise Zabini, right? [20:31] <futureweasley> you guys are all off my christmas list [20:31] <SoonerGryffindor> yes Ais [20:31] <TheAzkabanDietitian> When Ron believes in himself, he has the power to inspire others... as we saw at the Quidditch finals [20:31] <futureweasley> Why was Umbridge so ready to appoint Draco to the Inquisitorial Squad? Was it because of Lucius or did they have some other affinity? [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> because he's a stupid git [20:32] <DMD> If DD was talking, we may nor more about Slytherins and maybe something possitive. [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:32] <Hedwigger7> Because she too loaths Harry. [20:32] <Spown> I think it was because of Lucious...remember the ministry [20:32] <fawkes28> and so is she, sooner smile [20:32] <Hedwigger7> Yes spown. [20:32] <futureweasley> because Malfoy, again, is a name that the ministry trusts [20:32] <DumbleDebbie> Yeah, I'm sure his last name helped w/froggy [20:32] <Aislinn> Draco was the perfect person, in her eyes [20:32] <Pleshette> She knew he would be more than willing to get dirt on Harry [20:32] <CarpeDiem> I think Draco probably kissed up to her from day one. Perhaps Daddy's orders. I think to her he was a logical choice. [20:32] <DemetryCarrington> A secret love life maybe?? Eh eh lol. I think Lucious said something et the Ministry, maybe sucked up to Umbridge or something [20:32] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Because Draco was probably feeding her info about people from the very beginning [20:32] <Hedwigger7> Money speaks loudly fw. [20:32] <JillianS642> yep, and she mentioned Lucius a few times, I think. He also is a tattle-tale, which is perfect for the squad [20:32] <gryffindelle> lucius [20:32] <Aislinn> she probably thought lucius was wonderful, just like her stupid boss did [20:32] <DMD> lol secret afair. [20:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I'm sure Lucius told her how much Draco and Harry couldn't stand each other' [20:32] <fawkes28> i think he liked that she did not like harry [20:32] <Spown> lol yeah [20:32] <JillianS642> yikes, I need to type faster. [20:32] <gryffindelle> and he was harry's enemy [20:32] <Aislinn> and he had the right pure blood attitude [20:33] <Aislinn> and probably sucked up to her [20:33] <Rebekia> Yeah draco was a rat feeding Umbridge whatever she wanted [20:33] <fawkes28> oh, dmd don't encourage future [20:33] <Pleshette> I think she knew he would like the power trip [20:33] <CedrellaBlack> I think its ironic harry and umbridge really are on the same side but she jumps at the chance to appoint draco(a DE's son) to the inquisitional squad [20:33] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Draco was out to disprove that Voldemort was back too ! [20:33] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [20:33] <TheAzkabanDietitian> bye carp [20:33] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Ca....this has got to stop [20:33] <DMD> I will always encourage a good mind [20:33] <fawkes28> lol [20:33] <CedrellaBlack> lol [20:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> ^o^ [20:34] <Spown> lol [20:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> stop it!! >.< [20:34] <CedrellaBlack> whats going on? [20:34] <DemetryCarrington> ...are you laughing at me??? [20:34] *** BellaStar87 has quit [Bye] [20:34] <futureweasley> Umbridge needed someone just as mean and nasty as her to do her bidding [20:34] <DMD> Oh my, future, what have you done to these people? [20:34] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Bel....oh COME ON!!! [20:34] <futureweasley> and scare the students [20:34] <DumbleDebbie> she's also a nasty git [20:34] <Spown> i am laughing because the others are....anyway back to the point [20:34] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:34] <TheAzkabanDietitian> right Deb [20:34] <JillianS642> good point cedrella (about the same side thing) [20:34] <futureweasley> DMD, this is NOT my fault [20:34] <fawkes28> lol [20:35] <Spown> Umbrige has a lot in common with Draco and his father [20:35] *** Tanaqui has quit [Bye] [20:35] <Rebekia> THing is....Umbridge used draco...everyone uses draco and i think draco felt it. THat's why he wanted to prove himself in HBP [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> okay, so all the meanies are on the same side [20:35] <futureweasley> When Umbridge threatened to use the Cruciatus curse on Harry, Draco became quite excited. Why? Did this trouble you? [20:35] <fawkes28> we love you future hehe [20:35] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Tanq....oh man...you know what... [20:35] <CedrellaBlack> Thanks Jillian =] [20:35] <CedrellaBlack> ggby [20:35] <JillianS642> darn, I liked tanqui. [20:35] *** CedrellaBlack has quit [Bye] [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> notice who is missng from that equation? [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> sicko [20:35] <Pleshette> Good point Rebekia [20:35] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Okay question, do you think that Draco has ANY integrity? [20:35] *** MrMcGonagall has joined #lounge [20:35] <Hedwigger7> Yes, fw, shouldn't it? [20:35] <JillianS642> oohh, good point, rebekia! [20:35] <Spown> Draco likes torture. I guess he [20:35] <futureweasley> hi MrMcGonagall! [20:35] <Aislinn> It was disturbing, FW, yes [20:35] <DMD> Oh, Draco could have been her spawn as easily as she is Lucius'. [20:35] <SoonerGryffindor> welcome Mr McG [20:35] <DemetryCarrington> It troubled me a lot, it is the site of tourture that excited Draco, that's sick!!! [20:35] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Sooner! [20:35] <DumbleDebbie> not up to now. he may have found some after DD's talk on the tower [20:35] <Aislinn> it shows a really nasty side to him [20:36] * futureweasley hugs MrMcG! [20:36] <SoonerGryffindor> very disturbing, but not surprising [20:36] <fawkes28> yes it did bother me [20:36] <Spown> I guess he is a WWE (Wizard's World Enchatment) fan [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> hey Mr MG smile [20:36] <Pleshette> Hi MrMcG [20:36] <SoonerGryffindor> Woot to a fellow Okie in the house [20:36] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, everyone! [20:36] <gryffindelle> because he enjoys watching harry suffer, but yes, of course it bothered me [20:36] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:36] <JillianS642> you know, it is odd that draco got so very excited about it though. [20:36] <Spown> yes it is [20:36] <DMD> hello Mr McG [20:36] <Rebekia> Not a real shock considering his dad is a DE [20:36] <Aislinn> why is that odd? [20:36] <fawkes28> it shows that draco is not pure of heart like harry [20:36] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I think he excited because he doesn't really understand it... he is stupid [20:36] <futureweasley> I'm not sure that Draco had ever seen a Cruciatius cast on another person before [20:36] <Pleshette> Yeah, seeing Harry get in trouble is one thing, but an Unforgivable Curse [20:36] <JillianS642> it just seems a tad extreme, even for him. [20:36] <DumbleDebbie> he revels in Harry's pain and misfortune [20:36] <Aislinn> it seems quite consistent with his personality and behavior to this point [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> draco, and pure of heart should never be used in the same sentence [20:37] <Pleshette> I was just going to say that fw [20:37] <Pleshette> Great minds! [20:37] <DMD> You really didn't just say that fawkes!! [20:37] <JillianS642> Ah, true, it wasn't on a person in class! That's right, that was a spider. [20:37] <fawkes28> i said NOT [20:37] <Rebekia> No draco isn't pure of heart, BUT if someone comes after his mom or dad....Draco WILL fight back regardless of who he's fighting [20:37] <JillianS642> OK, I'm now convinced it's not odd that he was excited! [20:37] <Hedwigger7> WHy would anyone get a kick out of another person's pain? [20:37] <Spown> i think it was excitement to to see Umbridge do the curse, not do it on harry... do you get me? [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> Draco would [20:37] <Pleshette> Hmm kind of like Snape and Good Sooner? [20:37] <TheAzkabanDietitian> REbekia.... that would be revenge.. that's not pure [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> so would LV [20:37] <DemetryCarrington> I wonder if Draco's prophest will tell something if Jo uses it in the next book [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> sick, stupid git [20:37] <fawkes28> draco = not pure of heart and harry= pure of heart [20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:37] <DemetryCarrington> prophesy** [20:37] <Rebekia> TAD-- Exactly [20:37] <futureweasley> and, seeing the Ministry torturing Harry...what was just like Christmas morning for Draco...even better [20:37] <DumbleDebbie> LOL Pleshette [20:37] <Aislinn> oh, I think the fact that it was Harry was the icing on the cake, spown [20:38] <DMD> Jillian, ask Voldemort that question. [20:38] <Spown> noy pure of heart+pure of heart=Mr. Blood [20:38] *** Tanaqui has joined #lounge [20:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> MR BLOOOOOOODDDDD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 [20:38] <Spown> oh-uh [20:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDD [20:38] <futureweasley> What did you think of Ginny hexing Draco with the Bat-Bogey H [20:38] <DemetryCarrington> LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! JOHN!!!! LOL [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> oh hdear [20:38] <Aislinn> let's not go there, guys [20:38] <Pleshette> I see as Draco as wanting to be like Daddy, but when it comes right down to it, he doesn't have it in him [20:38] <DemetryCarrington> lol Ais [20:38] <Rebekia> What happened that I misshed [20:38] <JillianS642> err, what question, DMD? [20:38] <SoonerGryffindor> loved it [20:38] <Spown> OMG! That was awesome! He deserved it [20:38] <DumbleDebbie> go Ginny! [20:38] <TheAzkabanDietitian> That's it. It's over. John has invaded!!! [20:38] <Rebekia> missed* [20:38] <gryffindelle> it was awesome [20:39] <Aislinn> It showed Ginny's strength, and unwillingness to be bullied [20:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I just wish we could have "seen" it [20:39] <DemetryCarrington> Are the PotterCast crew ever on LL??? [20:39] <gryffindelle> Go Ginny!!!!!!! [20:39] <DMD> about why someone would take pleasure in torturing someone else [20:39] <fawkes28> another strong female standing up to draco...good for her [20:39] <Aislinn> I thought it was great! [20:39] <futureweasley> I thought Ginny's Bat Bogey was brilliant [20:39] <JillianS642> oh, I liked Ginny's hex. [20:39] <Spown> yes they are [20:39] <TheAzkabanDietitian> Yeah I've been on when they are Dem [20:39] <Spown> I saw melissa once and john twice [20:39] <MrMcGonagall> I've still always wondered what the Bat bogey Hex looks like [20:39] <JillianS642> wow - do only girls really stand up to this alpha male? [20:39] <SoonerGryffindor> hem, hem [20:39] <Rebekia> So anyways, I think if Draco has his parents threatened he will fight back regardless of the side. He could go to harry's side if V comes after his mom [20:39] <DemetryCarrington> Ginny is was so cool to me after she did that, it showed that she really hates him, but that was already obvious [20:39] *** Tanaqui has quit [Bye] [20:40] <Pleshette> Good point again Rebekia [20:40] <TheAzkabanDietitian> I really have no opinion of Ginny other than... I find her disinteresting [20:40] <futureweasley> I think the bat-bogey hex is particularly hard to pull off...and the fact that she did it so "on the spot" speaks volumes about her own witchy talents [20:40] <Spown> me too! [20:40] <DMD> Cool is the perfect way to describe Ginny. [20:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was yet another small thing to show that she is Harry's equal [20:40] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Tanq.....that's twice with Tanqui now, arg!! [20:40] <Spown> If you ask me cho is better gj for harry [20:40] <SoonerGryffindor> she is the one tht got to take out his nemesis [20:40] * Spown feels the angry looks [20:40] <DemetryCarrington> I agree, but Ginny is more like him [20:40] <DumbleDebbie> really TAD? I think she's the 2nd strongest wizard of the kids [20:40] <fawkes28> and draco probably didnt expect that from a weasley [20:41] <futureweasley> no, fawkes...Ginny was successful because Draco wasn't looking for it [20:41] <DMD> another Hermione in the making...but with a pureblood backround. [20:41] <Rebekia> Bit off-- but ginny is realllly strong...she was possessed for a whole school year by LV in her brain [20:41] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, she is [20:41] <Rebekia> Draco didn't fair as well with the LV pressure has ginny has lol..seems like anyways [20:41] <DemetryCarrington> That's true Rebekia [20:41] *** harryfreak359 has joined #lounge [20:42] <Spown> wb harryfreak [20:42] <SoonerGryffindor> wb harrryfreak [20:42] <MrMcGonagall> I really did begin to pity Draco in HBP [20:42] <futureweasley> Draco taunts Harry and George at the end of their Quidditch match in OOTP, which gets them kicked off the team. What did you think about that bit of sneakiness? [20:42] <harryfreak359> thanks [20:42] <fawkes28> wb hf smile [20:42] <gryffindelle> wb hf [20:42] <DMD> Hey, harryfreak WB [20:42] <futureweasley> I was so disheartened when this happened [20:42] <harryfreak359> wow, I feel so welcomed wink [20:42] <Pleshette> Despicable! [20:42] <DemetryCarrington> Very sneaky on his part, he thought that one out [20:42] <SoonerGryffindor> I loved the fact that they really thumped him good, but not what happened afterwards [20:42] <Spown> If i was on their place, I would hex him AND Umbridge [20:42] <DumbleDebbie> stupid git [20:42] <Rebekia> MrMG-- same here. At the end...I felt bad for him. He was the puppet in the puppetmasters game and he knew it [20:42] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Debbie [20:42] <gryffindelle> I hated him even more [20:42] <SoonerGryffindor> that's my line [20:42] <fawkes28> git [20:42] <Aislinn> I thought it was vintage Draco, but I was actually disappointed in Harry that he would allow himself to be plucked like that [20:43] <futureweasley> I felt so bad for the twins, and for Gryffindor's Quidditch team and fans [20:43] <DemetryCarrington> stupid gi.... nute DD beat me too it [20:43] <DumbleDebbie> what's your line? ;) [20:43] <DemetryCarrington> stupid git is sooners [20:43] <futureweasley> yep, Harry and the others took the bait [20:43] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:43] <DMD> It's so Draco!! If pretending to be a Dementor can't get him...pick a fight! [20:43] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, because that's the ony way he can win.... by cheating [20:43] <DumbleDebbie> She's good at sharing. smile [20:43] <futureweasley> lol DMD [20:43] <Pleshette> Then whine to daddy [20:43] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:43] <Rebekia> What's the next question? [20:44] <Rebekia> Or did i miss it? [20:44] <futureweasley> Draco taunts Harry and George at the end of their Quidditch match in OOTP, which gets them kicked off the team. What did you think about that bit of sneakiness? [20:44] <MrMcGonagall> Should one ever tickle a sleeping Draco? [20:44] <futureweasley> is what we are on, Rebekia [20:44] <Rebekia> Thanks Future! [20:44] <Spown> lol, I wouldn't try to do it [20:44] <DumbleDebbie> good one Mr McG [20:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that Mr McG [20:44] <DumbleDebbie> ewww, Spown [20:44] <Spown> ??? [20:44] <futureweasley> Draco has manipulation powers that Harry knows not [20:44] <Spown> I said I wou;d NOT want to do it [20:45] <futureweasley> and he took the bait, like he does every other time [20:45] <fawkes28> lol, fw [20:45] <DumbleDebbie> I doubt it FW [20:45] *** TheAzkabanDietitian has quit [Bye] [20:45] <SoonerGryffindor> well, I think Harry has them, he just doesn;t use them [20:45] <Spown> hellp [20:45] <Spown> !hello [20:45] <JillianS642> I don' thtink he anticipated he'd get them kicked off - what a bonus for him [20:45] <DMD> Harry knows, he just foesn't have the ability to lay off. [20:45] <fawkes28> manipulation can only get you so far [20:45] <DumbleDebbie> ooo true Sooner, Harry does have more antural charisma [20:45] <DMD> typos [20:45] *** CarpeDiem has joined #lounge [20:45] <DemetryCarrington> WB carpe [20:45] <futureweasley> manipulation can get you very far...I know...I rely on it [20:45] <Spown> I liked how Hary manipulated Hagrid and Slughorn with Felix [20:45] <gryffindelle> :hello: carpe [20:46] <futureweasley> lol [20:46] <Rebekia> Draco's sneakiness is just like his dads. Didn't Lucius do the same thing with getting Dumbledore Out? [20:46] <fawkes28> if you say so, fw [20:46] <DMD> Future, you must have more Slytherin than you claim [20:46] <gryffindelle> *hello [20:46] <SoonerGryffindor> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/Corner-Booth-f184.html. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next WWW chat here http://www.leakylounge.com/forums.html#entry94483 [20:46] <MrMcGonagall> True - mixture of coercion and manipulation. [20:46] <fawkes28> and look where lucius is now [20:46] <Pleshette> And deep pockets [20:46] <Spown> woot! It was a great chat! Good job everyone [20:46] <Hedwigger7> I'm off. Swell chat kids! Tah! Draco is a git! [20:47] <fawkes28> oh no [20:47] <harryfreak359> bye! [20:47] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Hed [20:47] <Spown> bye bye [20:47] <Pleshette> Bye hedwigger [20:47] <JillianS642> good point, rebekia! [20:47] <CarpeDiem> Bye Hedwig [20:47] <DemetryCarrington> Yea great job everyone, this was a lot of fun, great ideas!!!! [20:47] <futureweasley> Why do you think Snape favors Draco the way he does? [20:47] <JillianS642> darned phone calls interfering with the chat. [20:47] <Hedwigger7> Oh now you ask... when I'm leaving... [20:47] <Spown> SNape and Lucius are old buddies [20:47] <DemetryCarrington> Because he is his son lol [20:47] <DumbleDebbie> He knows Lucius is a DE [20:47] <gryffindelle> bye hed [20:47] <JillianS642> I think Snape sees some of himself in draco [20:47] * SoonerGryffindor really should not answer this question [20:47] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:47] <DumbleDebbie> LOL! [20:47] <Hedwigger7> There you go Jill, was just typing that... [20:47] <DemetryCarrington> lol [20:47] <fawkes28> lol [20:47] <Pleshette> smile ball [20:47] <DumbleDebbie> go ahead Sooner [20:47] <CarpeDiem> Future, I wonder if it's not expected of him. I'm sure Lucius made that very clear. [20:47] * JillianS642 grabs the nearest bucket for DC's comment [20:47] <gryffindelle> yeah spown [20:48] * futureweasley thinks Sooner is right about that [20:48] <Rebekia> THAT is a good question. I think Snape knows how beneficial the family is....but..for what reason...not sure...to keep up appeaerences? [20:48] <DMD> gotta go [20:48] <Aislinn> I think that they are buddies too spown [20:48] *** DMD has quit [Bye] [20:48] <DemetryCarrington> later DMD [20:48] * Spown has no idea what's going on [20:48] <DemetryCarrington> ARG missed him again [20:48] <DumbleDebbie> Snape is still playing the role of Voldy's man (I hope) [20:48] * SoonerGryffindor spown needs to read the threads in the kitchen [20:48] <futureweasley> DMD = she [20:48] <JillianS642> well, it's gotta be to Snape's benefit to do it, right? That's how Slytherins determine their actions [20:48] <DemetryCarrington> I knew that...thanx FW lol [20:49] <Rebekia> Jillian good point!! Snape sees in Draco what he always wanted to be in the Slytherin house. Popluar and lots of weight [20:49] <futureweasley> I think that Snape sees a lot of himself in Draco [20:49] <Hedwigger7> Lucius might have been an influence on Snape when he was young, so he's trying to mentor Draco. [20:49] <Pleshette> I agree with you Debbie [20:49] <Hedwigger7> (I couldn'tl leave if Snape is being discussed...) [20:49] * Spown agrees but sooner needs to give spown some of his time cause even with timeturner the time is not enough for spown [20:49] <MrMcGonagall> The relationship between Snape and the Malfoys is a little odd. So much in common, yet significant differences. Snape's ancestry and poverty for instance. [20:49] <DemetryCarrington> How old is Snape to Lucius?? [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, I think that Snape probably sees more of James in Draco [20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> what do you guys think of that? [20:49] <futureweasley> I think they are like aged [20:49] <Aislinn> James?? [20:50] <futureweasley> I think you are baiting [20:50] <JillianS642> hmm, nope, I disagree, Sooner! [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, I really do [20:50] <Spown> Snape is a bachelor....poor guy [20:50] <Pleshette> How so Sooner [20:50] <Rebekia> Yeah MG-- and why would the allow Snape in their circle, he's a mudblood and he's poor..and he's ugly...all strikes against him in the Malfoy clan [20:50] <Aislinn> ok, I need that one explained [20:50] <CarpeDiem> Sooner, I think Snape relates James directly with Harry. [20:50] <DemetryCarrington> Elaborate Sooner... [20:50] <fawkes28> snape hates harry as does draco i'm sure it reminds snape of the rivalry between him and james [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> rich, pureblood, has his own posse [20:50] <DumbleDebbie> cawky, and a bit of a showoff? [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> bullying git [20:50] <Hedwigger7> Lucius is older than Snape -- like senior to freshman? Maybe more... [20:50] <futureweasley> Snape only sees James in Harry...hence the distain [20:50] <DemetryCarrington> I guess, yea, but then why would Snape like him and hate James [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> its an act [20:50] <Spown> james??? But why doesn't Snape hate Draco then??? [20:50] <Aislinn> If Snape did see James in nDraco, he would not be nice to him the way he is [20:50] * harryfreak359 is stunned from Sooner comparing Draco to James [20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> one of my crazier theories [20:51] <Aislinn> We've seen that he can't control himself at all when it comes to anything James related [20:51] <DemetryCarrington> lol [20:51] <harryfreak359> *shakes head* [20:51] <Pleshette> I think in some ways Snape does hate Draco. [20:51] <Rebekia> Wait..Snape is younger then draco's dad?! [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [20:51] <harryfreak359> yeah [20:51] <DumbleDebbie> it's possible Sooner [20:51] <Spown> Snape sees James in Harry, Lily in Hermione, Lucius in Draco and yeah.... he needs his eyes fixed [20:51] <CarpeDiem> I think Draco may be a way for Snape to get back at Harry (and therefore James). If he helps Draco he helps his "campaogn" against harry. [20:51] <futureweasley> are you saying, Sooner, that Snape sees Draco as a "reformable James"? Like, this is Snape's opportunity to influence somone? [20:51] <Pleshette> He's irresponsible, a bully, impulsive [20:51] <DemetryCarrington> Yea Pleshette [20:51] <JillianS642> lol spown! [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> nope [20:51] <harryfreak359> lol [20:51] <Hedwigger7> Well yea Sooner, Lucius was gone from Hogwarts when the others were there. [20:51] <Pleshette> I see where you're coming from Sooner [20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we will see how he truly feels in book 7 [20:52] <Spown> yep [20:52] <harryfreak359> who snape? [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [20:52] <Aislinn> You think he has been acting with Draco all this time? [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> yes [20:52] <harryfreak359> yeah we'll also find out he is good [20:52] <Aislinn> hmmm [20:52] <SoonerGryffindor> yes!!!! [20:52] <harryfreak359> biggrin [20:52] * futureweasley needs the bucket now [20:52] <Rebekia> Whoa...Sooner that's an interesting idea...only what if he sees draco as himself. That way Snape can become Dumbledore [20:52] <MrMcGonagall> I could perhaps see the Malfoys being more contemporary with Molly and Arthur. [20:52] <Hedwigger7> You go HF! [20:52] <Rebekia> in a sense [20:53] <SoonerGryffindor> lol fw [20:53] <Rebekia> the mentor that comes to save all [20:53] <Rebekia> he'd love that [20:53] <fawkes28> i'll help future [20:53] <Aislinn> I think that's probably true Mr. McGonagall [20:53] <Hedwigger7> Oh I have to go now really, just when its getting good... darn.. Great chat! bye really! [20:53] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Hed [20:53] <Aislinn> bye, hed! [20:53] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Hed [20:53] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Mr M [20:53] <Spown> Snape becomming DD!!! Eeeew! [20:53] <CarpeDiem> Bye Hedwigger [20:53] <harryfreak359> bye hed [20:53] <futureweasley> Draco Malfoy, live or die? [20:53] <fawkes28> bye [20:53] <Pleshette> Bye! [20:53] <MrMcGonagall> Eeek, the minutes tick down! [20:53] *** Hedwigger7 left #lounge [] [20:53] <SoonerGryffindor> live [20:53] <Spown> Die [20:53] <Pleshette> Live [20:53] <harryfreak359> live [20:53] <DemetryCarrington> Live!!! [20:53] <harryfreak359> no [20:53] <harryfreak359> half-die [20:53] <fawkes28> live [20:53] <SoonerGryffindor> but he will be an orphan by the time it is over [20:53] <Rebekia> live [20:53] <Spown> half-die? [20:53] <Aislinn> hard to say [20:53] <JillianS642> live [20:53] <DumbleDebbie> live [20:53] <futureweasley> I think he's a goer myself [20:53] <MrMcGonagall> I think . . . . live. [20:53] <Pleshette> Yes Sooner, I agree [20:54] <Rebekia> Live but his dad or mom will die [20:54] <futureweasley> *goner [20:54] <Spown> i say die [20:54] <Pleshette> Lucius is toast [20:54] <CarpeDiem> Not sure but I think Draco's fate will be decided to Harry. Harry will have a key in deciding Draco's fate. [20:54] <DumbleDebbie> there is not half, so says yoda [20:54] <harryfreak359> yeah definitely [20:54] <futureweasley> Draco will pay for the sins of the father [20:54] <gryffindelle> die, too many people are trying to kill him [20:54] <fawkes28> harry would save him if it came down to it [20:54] <CarpeDiem> ...and because it's Harry...I'd have to say "Live". [20:54] <SoonerGryffindor> really FW? [20:54] <harryfreak359> well I can't make up my mind [20:54] <DemetryCarrington> Yea Crape [20:54] *** DemetryCarrington has quit [Bye] [20:54] *** DemetryCarrington has joined #lounge [20:54] <futureweasley> yes, Sooner, I do believe that is what it will come down to [20:55] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think we'll see too many baddies die at the hands of the good guys. They tend to go for capture. The "baddies" that bite it will probably be at the hands of other baddies. [20:55] <Rebekia> Draco has already sort of paid for the sins of his father. V set him up for an impossible task [20:55] <Pleshette> He already is in a way isn't he? [20:55] <SoonerGryffindor>  [20:55] <futureweasley> I agree Pleshette [20:55] <Spown> yeah but then Draco excaped LV [20:55] <futureweasley> but he's not done paying yet [20:55] <SoonerGryffindor> even though he is a stupid git, I want him to live [20:55] <Spown> *escaped [20:55] <harryfreak359> me too sooner [20:55] <fawkes28> awe that's nice sooner [20:55] <Pleshette> Where do you think Snape's taking him? [20:55] <SoonerGryffindor> smile [20:56] <Spown> Grimold Place [20:56] <futureweasley> I don't want anybody to die...I just want them to be institutionalized [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea Pleshette [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> lol FW [20:56] <harryfreak359> To the secret DA hding place [20:56] <DumbleDebbie> so Sooner you think Draco will be redeemed somehow from being a git and live ? [20:56] <futureweasley> for the remainder of their natural born life [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> no redemption, [20:56] <harryfreak359> hehe because everyone knows snape is good [20:56] <Pleshette> lol [20:56] <Pleshette> NOOOOOOO! [20:56] <Rebekia> They can go hang out with the Dementos [20:56] <DumbleDebbie> just wallow in his guilt? [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> but he will understand what it is like to be Harry by the time all is said and done [20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> yay HF!!! [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> hmmmm, now I'm intrigued [20:57] <futureweasley> Pleshette is my homegirl on this one [20:57] <CarpeDiem> What do you mean by "what it is like to be Harry", Sooner? [20:57] <Spown> I say they'll go to Grimold place cause DD wrote on a peace of paper where it is and sanpe is going to give it to Draco to read it [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> orphaned, poor, outcast [20:57] <Pleshette> We have to stick together FW [20:57] <fawkes28> i am staying out of it this time smile [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> famous? [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe [20:57] <CarpeDiem> Ah, I see...that would be an interesting turn of events. [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> scarred? [20:57] <DemetryCarrington> Yea Spown you have something there [20:57] <DumbleDebbie> elaborate woman! smile [20:57] <MrMcGonagall> Draco's misery has probably only just begun. [20:57] <JillianS642> what draco going to Grimmauld Place? I missed something [20:57] <Spown> biggrin [20:57] <fawkes28> no tired [20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> but probably not because he might like that [20:58] <futureweasley> fawkes, I try to stay out of it every time...but Sooner just keeps dragging me back [20:58] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> she's like quicksand [20:58] <fawkes28> too tired to argue with everyone smile [20:58] <DemetryCarrington> LOL [20:58] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, I am evile that way [20:58] <Spown> lol [20:58] <fawkes28> you guys all win tonight [20:58] <DumbleDebbie> lol [20:58] <CarpeDiem> lol it can be a good quality too smile [20:58] <Spown> woot [20:58] <futureweasley> she's worse than quicksand...she's like rubber cement [20:58] <fawkes28> nooooooooo [20:58] <SoonerGryffindor> hehehehehe [20:58] <Spown> I beat fawkes for the first time [20:58] <fawkes28> it's woohoo [20:59] <harryfreak359> LOL [20:59] <DemetryCarrington> Does this mean the chat is over?? [20:59] * Pleshette wants to chat about Sooner's theories for another hour! [20:59] <DemetryCarrington> lol [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah [20:59] <DumbleDebbie> ye olde evile Sooner [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> pretty much [20:59] <CarpeDiem> Okay gotta go. See everyone in the CoC! smile [20:59] <fawkes28> sad [20:59] <futureweasley> yes, thanks for coming! [20:59] <futureweasley> see you Saturday! [20:59] <Aislinn> Great chat everyone! Hope to see you all at the Lounge wide event on Saturday [20:59] <Spown> bye bye [20:59] <harryfreak359> bye guys [20:59] <Rebekia> I'd love that! Sooner theory chat! [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> yes guys, take it to the CoC [20:59] * CarpeDiem waves! [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:59] <JillianS642> what's the topic saturday? [20:59] <harryfreak359> I'll be there [20:59] *** CarpeDiem has quit [Bye] [20:59] <Spown> did you guys see the news? [20:59] <Pleshette> Bye everyone! [20:59] <futureweasley> I want no part of Sooner's Pet Theory chat [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [20:59] <JillianS642> news? [20:59] <Spown> OT: There is a new iPod! WOOT [20:59] <harryfreak359> LOL I do!!!!! [20:59] <fawkes28> good night all see you saturday! [20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks HF [20:59] <DemetryCarrington> ARG!!! I can't get into CoC, i tried, but didn't get the email, then send an email saying i didn't get the email,. and i haven't gotten that one , can anyone help me??? [21:00] <JillianS642> much better than my news. [21:00] <fawkes28> i saw that, spown [21:00] <harryfreak359> we have a lounge wide event Saturday right? [21:00] <SoonerGryffindor> hmmm [21:00] *** Pleshette has quit [Bye] [21:00] <DumbleDebbie> i DO! [21:00] <futureweasley> to discuss the news, please refer to http://www.leakylounge.com/James-Invisibility-Cloak-t33360.html&st=10 [21:00] <SoonerGryffindor> not sure how to help you demetry [21:00] <Rebekia> Are we going to have a chat about the Cloak?? [21:00] <Spown> And JKR has updated her site of course [21:00] <SoonerGryffindor> that's not my area of expertise [21:00] <fawkes28> bye all [21:00] <futureweasley> goodnight guys! [21:00] <harryfreak359> bye guys! [21:00] <Spown> bye [21:00] <Rebekia> We should smile [21:00] *** fawkes28 has quit [Bye] [21:00] <Aislinn> demetry - try posting in the CoC threads, and they should be able to help you [21:00] <DemetryCarrington> night FW [21:00] <gryffindelle> whats the lounge wide event [21:00] <SoonerGryffindor> *This chat will continue at the in the Study Hall of the Chamber of Chat http://www.chamberofchat.com/chat/enter.asp* [21:00] <futureweasley> good night [21:01] <harryfreak359> see ya all Sat, I made sure I could get off work that day! [21:01] <DemetryCarrington> Where are those, in the Lunge Ais [21:01] <DemetryCarrington> Lounge** [21:01] <gryffindelle> sad [21:01] *** DumbleDebbie left #lounge [] [21:01] <Aislinn> yes, there is a forum area all for CoC [21:01] <JillianS642> OK, good night all, sorry I fell out there for a bit. Darned feletones. [21:01] *** harryfreak359 has quit [Bye] [21:01] <DemetryCarrington> Cool thanx [21:01] <futureweasley> good night [21:01] <gryffindelle> bye sad [21:01] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, y'all! [21:01] <futureweasley> Jillian [21:01] <DemetryCarrington> Night Jill [21:01] <Spown> bye bye [21:01] <SoonerGryffindor> bye [21:02] <Rebekia> See you Jillian. Good to talk with you all biggrin This was lovely [21:02] <Aislinn> bye folks! [21:02] <DemetryCarrington> Goodnight everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:02] <JillianS642> gee, you scared me just posting my name, FW! [21:02] <Spown> BYE! [21:02] <futureweasley> goodnight MrMcG [21:02] * Spown transferes to the CoC [21:02] *** JillianS642 has quit [Bye] [21:02] *** Spown has quit [Bye] [21:02] <DemetryCarrington> kk I'm going now, bye everyone, see you Ais [21:02] <Aislinn> ok, folks we're turning out the lights and locking the doors smile [21:02] <SoonerGryffindor> bye demetry [21:02] <Aislinn> bye [21:02] <DemetryCarrington> Bye Sooner, who I wish was my mom lol [21:03] <futureweasley> aww, that's sweet [21:03] <SoonerGryffindor> lol [21:03] *** MrMcGonagall left #lounge [] [21:03] <futureweasley> I wish she was my big sis! [21:03] <SoonerGryffindor> not until I can deduct you on my taxes [21:03] <DemetryCarrington> Hey are you guys going to Prophesy 2007 [21:03] *** gryffindelle left #lounge [] [21:03] *** Rebekia has quit [Bye] [21:03] <DemetryCarrington> lol Sooner [21:03] <SoonerGryffindor> bye Demetry [21:03] <SoonerGryffindor> we gotta lock the door now [21:03] <DemetryCarrington> kk bye bye [21:03] *** DemetryCarrington has quit [Bye] [21:05] *** Aislinn has quit [Bye] This post has been edited by SoonerGryffindor: Sep 13 2006, 11:09 PM -------------------- |
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