Minerva31
Jan 18 2006, 09:02 PM
As it is quite impossible to see a doctor around here without waiting for hours in an emergency room, or get an appointment in 3 months, I thought we could share some advices on different subjects.
What actually brought this up is a situation we're having to deal with right now. Our 2 years-old boy started potty-training about a month ago. So he spends most of his time in underwear (diappers are for long rides in car and nap / nighttime). We never had any problems doing his dilation (you know, moving the foreskin back carefully...) until now. Well, until about 3 weeks ago. It started to move with less ease, but as he has a tendancy to play with it a bit more, I just thought he played a bit too much and hurt it a bit... Next week, it moved again with even less ease. But this week, the foreskin moves but it doesn't move all the way, when it used to. Dad is more concerned then I am, since B doesn't cry or say it hurts at anytime and he still pees without problems. I usually do his dilation once a week, with him helping (he needs to learn), but this week, I've done it everyday since saturday. It now seems to be moving a bit more but still not up to where it used to.
Any idea on what may have caused this? Any advice? I saw a nurse and all the advice she gave me were about the opposite: if the foreskin is moved all the way back, but won't go back to it's original place... I'm trying to see a doctor, but out of the 4 at the local clinic, one is a complete idiot who doesn't listen to what you tell him, 2 are b****** half the time and treat you like you're losing their time (sorry for the use of the "b" word, but it's the only one that fit...) , and the last one is ok since his own son got sick a few years ago. Plus, you have to show up there between 6 and 7 a.m. and they open the doors at 8h30... Imagine doing that with a grumpy 2 years-old you've had to wake up... :headache: If you attempt to call instead of showing up, the only answer you'll get from the secretary (not before 9 though...) is that it's full and you'll have to show up tomorrow, and no you can't see the doctor of your choice if he's not already your family doctor...
So, I'm asking you all for advice...
And if you need advice, go ahead and post, maybe someone will be able to help you! We've got to stick together! :hug:
P4C
Jan 18 2006, 09:27 PM
I'm going to ask a stupid question, but he is still getting cleaned all around regularly right? I know it seems stupid, but when you are changing diapers all the time and ahve to use wet wipes to clean up several times a day you might neglect thourough cleaning at bath time and keep with that habit after potty training. Of course I would imagine that you already thought of this or you wouldn't be asking, but that is just the first thing to pop into my head.
Also, have you checked med websites like webMD.com ? I haven't looked it up to see if they have anything to say on the matter, but I've found that mor most nonemergency kind of things I cna look there and figure out quit a bit.
davidenglish
Jan 18 2006, 09:28 PM
I find this cleaning or dilation of the foreskin rather unusual. I don't think it's that necessary. Urine is a powerful disinfectant --believe it or not. I agree that if he's not crying it's not likely a problem.
Minerva31
Jan 18 2006, 09:41 PM
Well, thanks for the link,P4C, I'll look it up!
As for your question, yes, he is still getting cleaned all around everyday. Even when he was in diappers, this was something important.
And davidenglish, the dilation isn't an obligation, but it is advised to do so, without forcing, to ensure that it doesn't "stick"... The truth is some doctors here (Québec) say you have to do it every day, some say you don't have to do it at all... We opted for once a week... What worries Daddy, is the fact it was all going well (going back fully without forcing) and now, it's not going much... As I said, I'm not as concerned as he is since there's not sign of infection (though he had a purulent otitis, very infected and had absolutly no symptoms! no fever, no pain, no smell, no nothing!), no tears if I move the foreskin as far as it agrees to go and no problems to urinate... But circumstances helping (see pregnancy thread), Daddy tends to worry a lot about his only boy. And I admit I would probably worry too being put in his shoes, though it's not really in my nature.
davidenglish
Jan 18 2006, 10:58 PM
Well, it's natural for the foreskin to stick to the glans. And it will come free of its own accord sometime in the first 2 to 3 years. There isn't really any need for special attention to the foreskin other than normal bathing. Only when there is pain urinating or visible inflamation should one be concerned. When in doubt, don't do anything. It's delicate tissue and one doesn't want to force anything and cause pain or stress. It's all perfectly natural. People tend to over clean their children. We scrub them and scrub them, but a little dirt is good for them. It stimulates the immune system. And the foreskin is not as useless as they say and actually is protective and somewhat self-cleaning.
Minerva31
Jan 18 2006, 11:12 PM
True our children need germs! :thumbup: According to some recent research (I can't seem to remember where I read this), a lot of today's medical issues are due to us being over clean! We desinfect our houses to a point where our children are not being put in a position where their immune system could start working and produce effective "bug repelant" :conf: (for lack of better words).
That's why I'm not too concerned when B ends up with a cold at the daycare, he's building up his immune system. What concerned me was the fact he was "sick" from mid-August til mid-December, when we saw a specialist who scheduled him for surgery (tonsil, glandular and tubes) for December 23rd. Him being sick was due to his tonsils being overlarge, the glandular taking to much space...
As for the foreskin thing, as I said, Daddy is more concerned then I am. And doctors here never say the same thing twice, so... You just have to go on instinct or mid-way to what they say... :conf: Ah, the medical system...
TXHPfan
Jan 19 2006, 12:22 PM
Hi Minerva,
Can't help you on the boy issue, sorry. Little Bud has never had much trouble in that respect.
Thought it was funny though that your B had his tonsils out last month. I just took Miss M in to the ENT specialist (based on our orthodontist's recommendation of all things) and she's getting her tonsils out next Friday.
Minerva31
Jan 19 2006, 07:19 PM
Get loads of ice cream, Jell-O and popsicles ready!!!!!!!! :blink:
TXHPfan
Jan 19 2006, 08:22 PM
She's ready - we hope. Our doctor uses a new procedure (using radio waves) that has no blood and very little recovery time. They say that lots of his patients choose pizza as their dinner for the first night after surgery. Miss M is pretty tough, but we've got lots of treats ready to go.
Thanks for the advice.
Minerva31
Jan 19 2006, 08:43 PM
Well, I do hope it all goes well. B's recovery was about 10 days long... Well, he had his tonsils and glandulars removed plus tubes put in his ears. The worst part was the effect the anasthesy had on him and add to that the morphine prescribed to help with the pain. He was pretty groggy for 2-3 days... Well on the whole, the first 10 days were like roller coasters, and the nights unslept... But now, he's back being a cuty with way too much character for a 2 years-old! The added bonus is that he sleeps well all through the night as he finaly can breath easily.
Here's for you and the missy
davidenglish
Jan 19 2006, 08:57 PM
I still have my tonsils. I've a host of allergies and my doctor said that tonsils did have a purpose and I'd be safer keeping them. I've had severe tonsilitis a couple of times. But I'm generally healthy as a horse.
Minerva31
Jan 19 2006, 10:06 PM
I don't know about TXHPfan's daughter, but B had to had then removed because to were to big and taking to much space, same for the glandulars. He'd been congested since mid-August! I saw 2 different doctors (one of them twice actually) and they both told me to "go home, it's a simple cold. It'll go away by itself... Finally I saw this one doctor, actually kinda mingled my way to see him as he's the only "competent" one in the clinic, I believe. We were now in November! As soon as we got in his office and I started telling him about B, he said " But his kid can't breath! He simply can't breath through his nose. Listen to him. His nose is completly blocked." And he ordered X-Rays to see if it was because of his sinuses.
Took a month to get the results. And then, he refered us to a specialist (Otho-Rhino-Laryngologiste: ORL) whotold us that with the results from the X-Rays, it was obvious B would need surgery. He then proceeded to examine him and found out that he had a severe otitis (very infected) in his right ear and hadn't shown any symptoms: no fever, no pain, no smell, no nothing! His dad and I must have looked pretty dumb at that moment.
That's why he suggested putting the tubes in. Since B was already going in for surgery for his tonsils and glandulars... If we see he really doesn't need them, he'll remove them in his office and there won't be any damage to his ears.
The girl who went in for surgery after B, was also getting her tonsils removed. She was 10. When the ORL came by after the surgery, he told her mom it was time she got them removed as they were so infected she was on the verge of poisonning herself! She also needed some sinuses surgery as they were abnormaly small.
hpaddict
Jan 20 2006, 01:31 AM
TXHPfan - our daughter (3 years old) just had that procedure for tonsils and adenoids. She was eating food 8 hours later and was ready to go back to preschool in 2 days. We made her wait the weekend. The bad breath was still there, though. We were able to control her discomfort with tylenol alone. The procedure is called a microdebreeder, I believe. It was just amazing. Our surgeons told us to push food as soon as they would take it (not just popsicles) as using the muscles to swallow help speed recovery. She started with bacon.
Good luck!
edited to add that she got hers out for chronic tonsillitis the likes of which our pediatrician hadn't seen in a while combined with the tonsillitis leading to one bout of infected lymph nodes. She's been MUCH healthier since getting them out.
Lilly
Jan 22 2006, 10:18 AM
Oh wow! That sounds like a fantastic procedure... if you need to have your tonsils out, that is! I really wish it was available here!
The Sidekick (my Daughter) also has a problem with her tonsils - they are three times the size they should be, or something ridiculous like that, and when they get infected, they become even more inflamed, and can cause breathing difficulties (it sounds simillar to the problems your boy had Minerva) She is on a waiting list for the surgery, we have no idea how much longer it will be.
She's generally healthy, but has had an ear infection this past week. She was on antibiotics, but just wasn't responding - her temperature wouldn't come down, and she was in so much pain - I finally took her to the Emergency Room, at 11:30 wednesday night. They didn't need to keep her in (I thought they might have to try IV antibiotics) but they changed the medication she was on, and gave her something strong enough for the pain.
She's fine now, but seriously, is there anything that makes you feel more helpless than watching your child in pain? It doesn't matter how old they are, it's just one of the worst feelings!
Lilly
JoanofMyself
Jan 22 2006, 01:43 PM
If you can believe it I can still vividly remember getting my tonsils out and tubes put in my ears. I think I was about 6 and I'm 15 now. I remember being really excited about the surgery and telling all of my friends about it. It was like a badge of honor. I remember getting a stuffed dragon right before the surgery and that def made me feel better. If your doctor allows it ask to go in with them to the operating room. I remember my dad was there holding my hand and it was all over in an instant. But when I woke up the pain was so terrible, so make sure to have pain killers ready, I couldn't talk for quite a while. And of course have a steady supply of popsicles and smoothies at the ready. Wow, I can't believe I remember all of this, I even remember waking up with my stuffed panda that I still have around here somewhere. I'm not sure but I think when kids have tubes put in their ears they have to put plugs in their ears and wear a headband while swimming so water doesn't go in. I remember that to be horribly embarrasing and always fought my mother about it. Hopefully there are medical advancements by now for this. Good luck with your child's surgery!
Christina
Jan 22 2006, 03:11 PM
We are also doing the tonsil dance at our house. My 5 year old son has the biggest tonsils I've ever seen. He doesn't have too much of a problem with recurring tonsilitis, but I worry that it may be interfering with his sleep. In fact we just went to an ear, nose and throat specialist this week and he's ordered a sleep study done. My little guy snores, and it gets much more prominent when he's sick. He often doesn't seem like he's fully rested. With his personality, he's pretty high strung (it runs in the family!) so it's hard to tell if he's just being a grouch sometimes or if he's really tired. He looks exhausted sometimes, even after a long night's sleep. We saw an ENT last year, his suggestion was to videotape him sleeping to see if his snoring indicates apnea. Apparently doctors have better cameras that us because all I heard was the camera whirring! I've listened to him snore, and I can't tell the difference between one snore and another. I'm glad to finally get a professional opinion. I don't want to put him through surgery unless he really needs it, but I had mine out as a young adult due to recurring tonsilitus and it changed my life. I should have had them out at age 7, I used to be sick all the time. When I think of all the school I missed...grrrrrr....
He was really worried about it at first but I think he's starting to think of the study as a really cool sleepover.
Minerva31
Jan 22 2006, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(JoanofMyself @ Jan. 22 2006,13:43 )
I'm not sure but I think when kids have tubes put in their ears they have to put plugs in their ears and wear a headband while swimming so water doesn't go in.
Actually what we were told was that if we know about the quality of the water, there's no need to put ear pluggs or anything. So if we go, for instance to my cousin's who has a pool, he doesn't need anything to be put in his ears. But for public places or lakes and (because of saop) in the bath, we simply put a swell of wadding coated with petroleum jelly (sorry if spelling or wording is bad, I had to use a translation thingy...) in each ear and it's fine.
As for going in with him, I wish we'd been allowed to be there, at least when he woke up...
They brought him back after he had been awake for a while, and it broke my heart to see his reaction once he passed those doors... :cry:
Minerva31
Jan 22 2006, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(Christina @ Jan. 22 2006,15:11 )
We saw an ENT last year, his suggestion was to videotape him sleeping to see if his snoring indicates apnea. Apparently doctors have better cameras that us because all I heard was the camera whirring! I've listened to him snore, and I can't tell the difference between one snore and another.
From what I know, someone with apnea actually "stops" breathing for a few seconds in between the snoring...
http://www.sleepapnea.org/info/index.html
You can have a look at this website, it's actually full of information and I was told their forum is also great. Good luck with the study!
P4C
Jan 22 2006, 06:58 PM
yep, sleep apnea is when people stop breathing while they are asleep. My son was 10 weeks early and had problems with apnea so they put him on caffiene while he was in ICN. They took him off before he left and didn't have any problems, but he developd a different kind of apnea when he was eating. He would suck swallow suck swallow suck swallow ... till his O2 rate dropped, so you had to take the bottel out (never happened while nursing for soem reason) so he would breath. We had to leave him on a monitor for the first month after he came home, but by then he didn't have any problems so they took him off it after that first month.
The monitor looked like an old laptop in size and jad a few lights to tell you what was going on. Then you hooked up to some patches and it monitored teh heart rate which would drop if he stopped breathing. If you are concerned talk to your pediatrician and they can put him on a monitor, or even do a sleep study on him to see if there is a problem and discover the best way to treat it.
As I am sure you are greatly aware, sleep is extreemly important to young minds and good sleep typically results in better attentiveness and ability to learn and retain information which results in better overall education. Catching something liek this early, if in deed there is a problem, could help a child to enjoy school and the rest of life later on.
Christina
Jan 22 2006, 07:55 PM
My big concern with my son's monster tonsils is apnea. That's the reason why I requested the sleep study (and why we went to a different ENT this time - I wasn't impressed with the "videotape him while he's sleeping" advice). I'm convinced he has it - based on his behavior during the day. I just want some empirical evidence before I push to have his tonsils removed.
this has been a really interesting thread. It's amazing how many of us have kids with similar health issues and how differently they are addressed in all parts of the world.
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 22 2006, 10:08 PM
My husband's snoring was drying me crazy- although his snoring over the 13yrs prior never concerned me-
I made him go to have a sleep test also. The doctor found the problem not in his adnoids(I think that is how you spell it?) but with allergies. He now takes a combination of over the counter meds and Rx. Many nights he doesn't feel the "need" to take his meds- because his sinuses aren't bothering him. Yet his snoring is signifigantly different when he takes the meds. He still snores but his breathing is continous rather than interrupted and or "stopped" where his snores are erruptive to make his body start breathing again.
My girlfriend has three children with asthma. One is grown out of it- another is chronic and the third is just beginning...The chronic one has always snored, and was diagnoised as a "happy mouth breather" Now he did eventually have his tonsils out around the age of 4 (he is 6 now) and after the surgery his apena started even more aggressively and sure enough -allergies
So I guess with this long post I am trying to say that although the tonsils may be a cause it is not neccassarilly the final word. The child and or adults need to consult an allergist as well to rule out any other possiblites.
TXHPfan
Jan 22 2006, 10:46 PM
This has been a really interesting thread. Like I said before, our orthodontist said to have Miss M's tonsils evaluated. They're actually so large that they push her tongue out of its normal position in her mouth and that's causing her lower jaw to grow larger than her upper jaw (due to the constant pressure of her tongue pressing against it).
She has severe asthma, and the ENT said that her asthma will be helped as well. He estimates that her airway is only 1/3 of an inch (sorry - not sure of the centimeter translation) wide. This causes extreme snoring - she wakes us up at night and she sleeps on a different floor of the house than we do.
I'm really hoping that the procedure goes well. She doesn't seem worried at all. I think she's excited that she's not going to snore anymore (makes it hard on her when she's sleeping over at a friend's house - she's embarrassed to fall asleep due to her snoring.)
Thanks for all the input on this.
hpaddict
Jan 22 2006, 11:38 PM
Good luck, TXHP. So funny the cultural medical differences reading through this thread. Our docs are quick to throw them on the table if it is a breathing issue (snoring) but were reticent for our daughter since many kids "grow out of it". For us it was chronically inflamed tonsils and fevers of 103-104 for 6 days with EVERY SINGLE COLD. We had to go through a year of that before they would finally let us get the referral to the ENT who put her on the table 3 weeks later.
I will say this about the microdebreeder technique (where it cauterizes away the tonsil instead of clipping them out which is standard procedure) - we were told that it had to be a "good candidate" for it. This means the tonsil had to be "soft" which usually occurs in children under 4. After that age, the procedure may not be viable and you get the standard painful, icky removal with not eating for 2 weeks and SERIOUS pain.
Also wanted to add that it is pretty much standard procedure to do a "t&a" operation. This cracked me up because T&A means something else to me - but to the ENT world it means tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy. They will 99% of the time take out the adenoids at the same time as the tonsils - since adenoids are really just tonsils but located in a different spot (under the pallate).
The kids who I have known - and their parents - the operation has changed their lives from sleeping to eating - the kids get healthy!
Minerva31
Jan 23 2006, 08:25 AM
With B, the X-Rays showed he barely had 2mm (don't know about inches...) of room to breath because of his adenoids. That's a tiny bit less then the thickness of an HP book cover, hard cover that is... His sleeping and breathing is so much better! I realised he had this proceedure you were talking about for his tonsils, but the pain was still there. He sparcely (??) ate for about 8 to 10 days and then, back to normal.
He's now in a "poussée de croissance", which means many of his clothes won't fit starting next week... :blink:
Riddle2
Jan 23 2006, 09:54 AM
I have a ? that maybe someone could answer? I have a daughter whose 4 and has had a dry itchy rash on her bum on and off for years. I have taken her in to see the doc but they just prescribe her a cream and thats it. But it still comes and goes so i just dont go see the doc anymore and waste $$ to get nothing in return. So i was wondering if anyone has had this problem with there child? She doesnt complain it just looks yukky to me.
thanks to all who reply
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 23 2006, 01:38 PM
There is several possiblities for that- food allegies, ezchema(I think that is how it is spelled?) or allegric condtions to soaps or change in detergents. The rashes don't neccassarily appear all over. But have you tried a dermitologists to rule every thing out?
Riddle2
Jan 23 2006, 02:05 PM
I was thinking that it could be eczema- she did have that when she was an infant. So that has crossed my mind. We did go to a dermoligest and they said the same thing as the peds. It was folliculitus and gave me a cream that would make it go away. But again off and on it would return so we are stumped as to who to go to now. We were thinking of getting some Aquaphore cream to just put on it - we used that when she was a baby for her eczema. Absoulutly no idea what eles to think?
TXHPfan
Jan 23 2006, 04:15 PM
Have you tried a food-elimination diet? It sounds like a food intolerance/allergy to me. Trust me, I've done tons of food allergy testing with my kids.
Rashes are really commonly caused by food allergies. Eczema can also be triggered by a food allergy.
Riddle2
Jan 23 2006, 04:47 PM
HUmm--i wonder what food it could be?? there is so much to chose from. what were the allergies that you found?
TXHPfan
Jan 24 2006, 10:37 PM
*****Disclaimer****** I am not an allergist. My kids have severe food allergies, so I'm familiar with the testing process. If you suspect a food allergy, I always recommend seeing an allergist if one is available. If not, here is a way I read about that you can try to identify what your child is reacting to.
There are several main allergens out there. My kids are sensitive (well, really extremely allergic to actually) to several different types of nuts.
Some of the most common allergens (that I can remember off the top of my head) are: nuts, berries, dairy products, wheat, egg, citrus, and shellfish.
There are many books out there on food allergies/intolerances. Most will say something to the effect of "keep a food diary for your child and make note of whatever rash or anything you're trying to pinpoint." Then, after the rash has shown up a time or two, look back at the food diary and see if you see a "trigger" food. Sometimes it can take up to 18 hours or so for a food allergy to show up, so you might need to look at the previous day.
Then, if you see something that seems to go in a pattern, don't let your child eat that food for a few weeks. Give it to them again and see if the rash is back. If so, then you've probably found it.
P4C
Jan 25 2006, 09:52 AM
I know our pediatrician gave us a list of common allergy foods and told us not not intriduce more than one of those foods over about a week at a time. So, if we gave our daughter strawberries for the first time (more berries can cause allergies) then we didn't give her anything new for 5-7 days.
Of course, some allergies develope after more tahn one exposure, but it sure does make it eas to ID things that cause a reaction. So far my kids haven't had any real allergic reactions to anything. My daughter will get a red "stain" around her mouth after eating stuff with tomatoes in it if she gets it all over her face, but it goes away in an hour or two after cleaning the sauce off of it. She doesn't complain so I don't worry about it.
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 25 2006, 11:22 AM
THXHPfan and PC4 have stated the tried and true methods to food allergies.! There are other more subtle foods like oatmeal, soy, and I am missing another.. :ponder: but they are found in everything!!!! - ohh I think it is peanut oil-
This is harder to detect and may call for a different series of tests. My girlfriend's kid was allegic to soy and soy products- well she literally had to make everything from stratch! Thank googness he grew out of it- but there is a possibility of this since he too had rashes and eczema .
Good luck Priscilla
Arianhrod
Jan 25 2006, 02:04 PM
QUOTE
There are other more subtle foods like oatmeal, soy, and I am missing another..
Wheat. Wheat allergy is very common, especially in children.
QUOTE
Of course, some allergies develope after more tahn one exposure, but it sure does make it eas to ID things that cause a reaction. So far my kids haven't had any real allergic reactions to anything. My daughter will get a red "stain" around her mouth after eating stuff with tomatoes in it if she gets it all over her face, but it goes away in an hour or two after cleaning the sauce off of it. She doesn't complain so I don't worry about it.
I get that, too. I can't use any face creams or makeup with ascorbic acid in it. That includes Noxema, as I found out the hard way when I was about 10. Can she eat onions?
P4C
Jan 25 2006, 03:17 PM
Yes she can eat onions. She will eat them raw like an apple if we let her. The other day we were cutting an onion for a meal, well we had layed it out to be cut then left the room, suddenly we heard a noise and went back in the room. She had picked it up and was pealing the outer skin off so she could eat it. No reasctions to it what so ever.
Still I wonder why she has problems with sauces that have tomatoes in them. Even pizza will cause it. It only appears where the sauce get on her and will go away in an hour or so. It doesn't seem to affect her other than making her face red. I would guess the acid from the tomatoe, but lemon juice doesn't affect her, so there must be a chemical that causes it. Still, if this is the wost it ever gets I'm not going to worry. When she gets older she won't get it on her face when she eats and it won't be a problem.
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 25 2006, 03:40 PM
You know my same "girlfriend" had to completely give up alll tomatoes and tomato products when she was breast feeding since the baby's echezma was so bad- in addition he broke out in strange rashes. Once she stopped his skin was beautiful!??Now he has no reactions with any sauces and or raw tomatoes???
Riddle2
Jan 25 2006, 05:59 PM
I appreciate the info TXHPfan. I'll look into it.
Minerva31
Jan 25 2006, 10:05 PM
Going to a follow-up with the ORL tomorrow... I get a feeling I'll come back with a prescription...
B woke from his nap crying and holding his ear this afternoon... He's been a bit fussy tonight and not acting like he's been for a month now... Well, we'll see. It might have been tooth-related as his far back teeth are coming. and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary when I checked his ears...
On food allergies, B was intolerant with ox proteins as an infant. It cost a fortune in formula as he needed a special brand. Once he started drinking regular milk, everything turned out to be fine. Now, it's juice and fruits (some) that are a problem. It's nothing major, but whenever he drinks juice, any juice, or eats some fruits (mostly oranges and grappefruits...) he gets these little red "pimples" around his mouth and genitals... I think he reacts a lot to fruit acid. I always cut his juice with water: ¼ juice - ¾ water. And he still gets those around his genitals... So it's basic water for him most of the day, and milk in the morning and at night (if he drinks to much milk, he doesn't eat properly!)... I've got a few things I've gotta talk about with the doc on his next appointment... which is next October!!!! An appointment is a day long at the Ste-Justine's Hospital! Blood work, measuring, weighing, shots, sometimes the physiotherapist and the doctor...
Minerva31
Jan 26 2006, 06:33 PM
A quick thought for you and your daughter, TXHPfan
Keep us posted!
Working in the daycare department, I've seen many cases of intolerance with lactose and allergy to lactose, soy allergies, egg also.
As of myself, I have strange allergies that will give me rashes: nylon and acrylic resin. So any clothes with a high % of these products, I can't wear. I didn't know about he acrylic one until I tried false nails, the ones done at a salon. I was actually losing hte skin around my nails! It was just peeing of! I finally linked this and the itchiness I felt upon wearing certain clothes... :conf: As for nylon, it was figured out when I was a kid. Anytime I wore "collants" (I think it's panthyhose but I ain't too sure) which were made of nylon, I would scrath until my skin was raw! So my mom took me to a doctor who told her to start using the cotton or wool ones... And he prescribed a lotion to put on my legs to stop the rash.
TXHPfan
Jan 26 2006, 10:23 PM
Thank you. An outpatient procedure has now turned into a 4 hour surgery (since she's had trouble with breathing during a surgery before).
After reviewing her medical file, they've decided that the light anesthesia won't work for her and she has to be completely sedated. Then, she's going to be in the level 1 recovery room for an hour with one on one nursing care before being moved to a regular room.
So, we'll be at the hospital for at least 6 hours tomorrow.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Kelazma
Jan 27 2006, 06:30 AM
QUOTE
On food allergies, B was intolerant with ox proteins as an infant. It cost a fortune in formula as he needed a special brand. Once he started drinking regular milk, everything turned out to be fine.
My daughter Jules is not fully "allergic" to anything...but she's very sensitive to dairy-anything, soy, peaches, pairs, there's something in bottled spaghetti sauce that breaks her face out into a big red blob...(it looks like someone hit her...when it does that)...that same something is in ranch dressing...when she was a baby it was a nightmare. She almost died before my pediatrician would listen to the fact that she was not keeping down any food. She'd give me the "baby's spit up some"...line...bah...I'm still angry...
Anyways, pretty much if I'm not sure if she can eat something pre-packaged, I'll make it myself with things I know she can have. So I'll just make my own spaghetti sauce or use the little ranch dressing packets in sour cream...those don't make her face break out....the funny thing is...if she doesn't get any on her face...her skin doesn't react...who knows....
She still can't have much dairy (Lactaid brand milk is a godsend)...Soy is the worst...I can't even buy silly little cookies at the store because they're made in...or made with soy, soy proteins, soy lethicin...or some other soy bean oil....I have to buy the cans of solid albacore tuna (that cost 3x as much) because all the other things are packed with soybean oil (Even the ones that say 'in water')....
Needless to say I'm bitter! But Jules is going to really be mad when she gets older and wants to make her own food choices...I am NOT looking forward to that day...
Edit: because apparently I don't know how to quote properly this morning.
Minerva31
Jan 27 2006, 09:14 PM
Here's a tough one, I believe... How can you tell someone is clinicaly depressed? I mean, suffering from depression?... I have a feeling someone close to me is and I don't really know what to do. It's hard to know how to get this subject on the table: Hey! How are you? You look a bit depressed, did you see a doctor about it? :conf:
P4C
Jan 27 2006, 10:01 PM
Clinical depression is difficult to diagnose without a bit more involvement, but there are signs that you can view externally to guide your oppinion.
The big questions that really exist involve change of personality length of time of the depression, and change of habits. There is more to it than this, but these are teh most obvious to outsiders without sitting downs and having a long talk. I can assume that you are viewing these things already which makes you suspicious of clinical depression.
This is why you need to go ahead and "get this subject on the table." If you are close enough to this person to notice then you are close enough to talk to them. If you are unsure of yourself talk to other people close to this person to see if they notice. If nothing else your friend should start thinking about the potential depressions and be happier for having friends that are so concerned.
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 27 2006, 10:09 PM
Wow we are going through that now with a sister in law!!!!!
I actually think she is bi-polar but that another thing. But yeah, you have to get it on the table as PC4 was saying...
If the person is that close just getting them to express their lack of desires and feelings may be enough to say "maybe you should see someone...???" I am not a professional but that is what I would do- timing and "the feelings of the moment" should lead you correctly especially when the reason is for truth.
Minerva31
Jan 27 2006, 11:14 PM
Well, a few of the "yellow flags" that brought the big red depression flag up were:
* lack of interrest in her work: seems to feel "lost", no desire to get involved anymore.
* tiredness: she always feels tired.
* no desire to go to work in the morning.
* something missing in her eye: this one is a bit strange to explain. it's like a little switch was turned off or something.
Thing is, it could also be from the atmosphere at her work these past few weeks. She's been saying she doesn't feel like they value her anymore. But the tiredness has been going on for quite sometime now. She thought at first it might be a lack of "iron" or something like that. And a bit of lack of sleep... But it's still there...
We are close, maybe not that close though... I really don't know...
Alchemist Apprentice
Jan 27 2006, 11:23 PM
If your concern for this person and their situation is making enough effort into your life that you are expressing it here then I think- if I may- you will soon find out how close you are. You for your own sense of self you need to iniate the conversation. otherwise you will sit and wonder what if???forever regardless of the outcome.
I believe the "flags' you list could be depression of sorts and or another medical problem that may need addressed- you don't know until you ask IMO
P4C
Jan 27 2006, 11:34 PM
These are the kind of things that <b>could</b> be signs of clinical depression. They could also be signs of a lack of interest in her job.
For example. Right now that list would likely apply to me. I wake up exausted nearly every morning and it sticks with me through the day. I have to convince myself to go to work and I simply don't enjoy it like I did a few months ago. I couldn't say for sure something is missing in my eye, but that is a bit more subjective; however, in my case there is a logical explanation for all of this.
I had 2 accidents where I nearly lost my fingers (two on my left hand with the first and 2 on my right hand with the second) within a month about 2 months ago. I had worked there for nearly 5 years without anything like this happening. My fingers are still recovering and I have to force myself to use any power tools anymore. For the sleepyness, well my wife is pregnant (and has been restless at nights because of it) and my son has cut 4 molars and 4 other teeth in the past 2 weeks. Suffice it to say I haven't been getting my 6 hours of sleep.
This is why you absolutely need to talk to this person. Maybe this is not depression, but maybe it is.
Some other possibilities can include life happenings, changes in sleep habits, and even "winter blues" which is kind of related to sleep habits. The change in daylight can cause a form of depression in a lot of people this time of year. Again, the only way to know is to talk, and of course realize (as I'm sure you do) that if this is a clinical depression it will not go away.
TXHPfan
Jan 30 2006, 03:55 PM
The tonsils came out just fine - but the recovery is going rocky at best. Since she's big for her age (and her tonsils were huge), she's having issues they normally associate with preteens or teenagers.
Her pain is tolerable, but the stomach issues are getting us down. Miss M can't keep anything down - we're down to one piece of crushed ice an hour. So far, that's staying down. However, since the last time she ate or really drank anything was Thursday, I'm beginning to be a bit concerned.
Any advice from those who've been there is really appreciated.
HPMommy
Jan 31 2006, 06:50 PM
Have they prescribe a phenagren suppository for the naseau? It works like magic. Will make her a little sleepy but maybe that's a good thing while she's healing.
Minerva31
Jan 31 2006, 08:21 PM
The doctor had told us that in doubt, we should take B back to the hospital. He also told us that there was a possibility that he might get nausea from the anastetic (??) but also if there was blood in his stomach. As blood can't be diggested, it was the system's way of getting it out...
Have you tried any of those products they sell in drugstores, like "pedialite" ??? There supposed to be made to keep the child's level of fluids constant in case of nausea... But after so long, I would definetly check it out with a doctor.
TXHPfan
Jan 31 2006, 08:49 PM
Thanks. They gave us a prescription anti-nausea medicine. Today has been quite a bit better.
I think it may have been the blood thing you mentioned, Minerva, as it always seemed to have been tinged a bit.
She's keeping ginger ale and rice down today, so she's feeling a lot better.