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nympheart
Just as flowers, colors, and anything else, different woods have symbolic meanings. "The wand chooses the wizard," so what do the wand woods tell us about the characters, magic, or even possibly what lies in the future for the story.

To start off (symbolism from http://www.photovault.com/Link/Food/Plants...ymbolism.html):
Ron's first wand was ash, symbolizing protection, prosperity, sea rituals, and health.

Hagrid's wand was oak: protection, health, money, healing, potency, fertility, and luck

Neville's wand: cherry meaning divination and love

Harry's holly means protection, anti-lightning, luck, dream magic (I've also seen holly mean associated with rebirth because it's always green)

James's mahogany means anti-lightning as well, I'm not really sure what that means, but it is interesting.

Ron's second wand and Lily's were both willow: love, divination, protection, and healing

Voldemort's yew is said to be for "raising the dead"
Shard
I knoe JKR studied alot about the wood types and wanted Voldemort's wand to be Yew which is connected to Death. So I do think this is a god thread idea to pursue. thumbup.gif
memyslfnI
JKR mentions celtic wand woods somewhere>

Here is a bit from the Lexicon so everyone has one place to reference the woods in the characters wand:

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some famous wands and their characteristics

Delacour, Fleur: rosewood, 9 1/2 ", inflexible, veela hair (GF18)
The hair in Fleur's wand was from her grandmother, who was a Veela.

Diggory, Cedric: pleasantly springy, 12 1/4", single unicorn hair from the tail of a particularly fine male unicorn
See note below on Cedric's wand core. Cedric, who is friendly and unassuming, carries a wand which is described as "pleasant."

Granger, Hermione's wand: vine wood, dragon heartstring
Rowling chose vine wood (WEB LINKJKR) for Hermione because it is the wood associated with her birthday in Celtic lore.

Hagrid, Rubeus: oak, 16", rather bendy
The oak tree is considered to be the "king of the forest," according to British lore. It is known for its strength. (WEB LINKJKR)

Krum, Viktor: hornbeam, 10 1/4", quite rigid, dragon's heartstring
Krum's wand was made by Gregorovich, not Ollivander. Krum's stiff, gruff manner is reflected in his wand being "quite rigid."

Longbottom, Neville's wands:
first one (obtained prior to September 1991 [Y11], broken June 1996 [Y16])
new one (July 1996 [Y16]) cherry, unicorn hair
Neville's original wand was his father's old wand and meant a great deal to his grandmother Augusta (his father's mother). This wand was broken by Antonin Dolohov during the battle of the Department of Mysteries in June 1996 [Y16].

Potter, Harry: holly, 11", supple, single phoenix tail feather (from Fawkes)
According to European tradition, the holly tree repels evil. The name "holly" is derived from the work "holy." (WEB LINKJKR)

Potter, James: mahoghany, 11", pliable (excellent for transfiguration)
It makes sense that a wand good for transfiguration would be "pliable," which means that it can be molded and shaped.

Potter, Lily Evans: willow, 10 1/4", swishy (nice wand for charm work, according to Ollivander) (PS5)

Riddle, Tom Marvolo (Voldemort): yew, 13 1/2", single phoenix tail feather (also from Fawkes)
Harry's and Voldemort's wands are "brothers" because they have cores of not only the same substance but from exactly the same source. When they are forced to fight each other, the Priori Incantatem effect is produced. Yew trees are known for their long lives. They symbolize death, but also resurrection. (WEB LINKJKR)

Umbridge, Dolores' wand
While not identified specifically, Umbridge's wand was described as "unusually short." Umbridge herself is unusually short, and perhaps her wand's characterisitcs suggest that her magical ability comes up wanting as well. We never do see her perform any particularly effective magic spells, after all.

Weasley, Ron's wands:
first one (obtained August 1991 [Y11], broken 1st September 1992 [Y12]): ash
new one (31st August, 1993 [Y13]): willow, 14", unicorn tail hair (PA3)
Ron's original wand was a hand-me-down from his older brother Charlie. It was made of ash (see note). This wand broke when the flying Anglia crashed into the Whomping Willow on the 1st of September, 1996 [Y12].

NOTES:
Unicorn tail hairs
Cedric, Neville, and Ron all have wands with unicorn tail hairs in them. This is a bit disturbing because of the following exchange from PS15:

"Yeah," said Hagrid, glancing up, too. "Listen, I'm glad we've run inter yeh, Ronan, 'cause there's a unicorn bin hurt -- you seen anythin'?"
Ronan didn't answer immediately. He stared unblinkingly upward, then sighed again.
"Always the innocent are the first victims," he said. "So it has been for ages past, so it is now."

Cedric, like the unicorn, has already died. Is Ron or Neville next?

Confusion about Ron's wand
The book states that Ron's wand is made of willow (PA3). On her website, however, Rowling said that Ron's wand was made of ash.

The willow wand is the second wand, the wand that was specifically purchased for him with part of Mr Weasley's winnings from the Daily Prophet contest. As for Ron's original wand, Rowling said the following on her website:

I gave Harry a wand made of holly wood back in 1990, when I first drafted chapter six of Philosopher's Stone...Some time after I had given Harry his holly-and-phoenix wand I came across a description of how the Celts had assigned trees to different parts of the year and discovered that, entirely by coincidence, I had assigned Harry the "correct" wood for his day of birth. I therefore decided to give Ron and Hermione Celtic wand woods, too. Ron, who was born in the February 18 - March 17 period, was given an ash wand (I think I had originally marked him down for beech)...

Rowling is talking about the time before the first book was finished, when she was planning the series. So she is saying that the wand Ron had at the beginning of the stories was made of ash. This was the wand that broke at the beginning of book two and which was replaced at the beginning of book three with a wand made of willow.


the name Rowna Ravenclaw I believe is interesting because it is derived from the word "rowan" or "rowan tree"

it is said that the wands made from rowan wood are the most prized because of is magical properties.

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The Rowan tree has been considered magickal for thousands of years by many different cultures. One of the earliest references to the Rowan is in the ancient Finnish creation myth about the goddess "Rauni." According to this myth, the earth was barren and devoid of all plants when she came down from heaven and took the form of a Rowan tree. After Rauni ("Rowan?") had intercourse with Ukko, the God of Thunder, the result of their union was the creation of all the plants of the earth. According to this ancient creation myth, then, all plants and trees are descended from the Rowan tree as a result of it having been struck by a mighty bolt of magical lightening.

Rowan trees were said to guard against the evil effects of "black" witchcraft. Berries were sometimes strung like beads and hung as a necklace around the neck of a supposed victim of sorcery. Some believed that one way to protect your soul from the devil was to touch a witch with a branch from a Rowan tree. Then, if the devil came demanding a soul, the witch would be taken instead. A cross carved from Rowan was sometimes placed above a child's cradle to protect it from bewitchment or from being stolen by faeries. These crosses were traditionally renewed each May Day. It was believed that the power of the Rowan was particularly potent if the person making the charm had never seen the tree before cutting the wood.

towerdweller
The wood used in Harry and Voldemort's wands is very symbolic. Here is what one site says about the Yew Tree, whose wood was used in LV's wand:
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The Graveyard Tree, which can live 'forever'

The Yew, which once was probably once the dominant forest tree in Europe is now most familiar to us as "the graveyard tree". The poet Tennyson echoed the old belief in Brittany, that the roots of the tree reach out to the mouth of every corps when he wrote:

Old Yew, which graspest at the stones
That name the under-lying dead,
Thy fibres net the dreamless head,
Thy roots are wrapt about the bones.

The people of Selborne were able to see this with their own eyes, when the ancient yew in St. Mary's churchyard blew over in a terrible gale at then end of January, 1990. It exposed quite a few bones, some of which were tangled up in the root ball. I guess that they may well have grown in and out of skulls, being a bone with several orifices, as was the belief in Brittany. Archeologists were called in to collect these human remains to protect them from dogs and other creatures on the prowl. They were allowed to use this rare opportunity for an archeological dig, after which the rudely disturbed skeletons would be reburied. It was established that the remains of as many as 30 people had been resting beneath the mass of roots.
There has been much heated discussion and many opinions expressed as to why the Yew is so often found in churchyards. Some say it is the deep-dark green, almost eerie and shady presence of the tree. Other say because it is the tree of death, due to its poisonous chemistry, or that it was put in churchyards, where it would not be accessible to life-stock to grow wood for longbows. Christian scholars have associated it with Christ as 'the tree of the cross' or with the theme of resurrection.
However, the evidence is now overwhelming that the Yew was the archetype of "The Tree of Life" to people all over Europe eons before Christ was born.
A tree of the Yew family (which is itself at least 200 million years old) is the one living creature who, 'barring acts of God or man', is biologically able to live indefinitely: forever! It is difficult to imagine for us, for whom 80 years of consciousness is a long, long time, what it is like to be a Yew. It is not surprising therefore that, for long millennia, visionary and sensitive people have turned to the Yew sensing it can teach us about eternity and immortality and that its Spirit is, in spite of its toxicity as a plant substance, a miraculously healing Spirit. The Yew has served the Earth since prehistory and it has always served us as human beings by providing a Spiritual presence, which is as close as we can get, in tangible physical matter, to the concept of God and Eternity.

http://www.the-tree.org.uk/BritishTrees/
memyslfnI
Right you are TD!! clap.gif
Holly is a perfect wood for Harry and it ties into the death rebirth theory we have tossed around since book 5.
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HOLLY
A beautiful white wood with an almost invisible grain; looks very much like ivory. Holly is associated with the death and rebirth symbolism of winter in both Pagan and Christian lore and is important to the Winter Solstice. In Arthurian legend, Gawain (representing the Oak King of summer) fought the Green Knight, who was armed with a holly club to represent winter. It is one of the three timbers used in the construction of chariot wheel shafts. It was used in spear shafts also. The qualities of a spear shaft are balance and directness, as the spear must be hefted to be thrown the holly indicates directed balance and vigour to fight if the cause is just. Holly may be used in spells having to do with sleep or rest, and to ease the passage of death. A bag of leaves and berries carried by a man is said to increase his ability to attract women.


I think it would be a fair guess to say that Dumbledore might have a holly wand.

It is also fitting that Lily has a willow wand as she is the female principle, or moon in alchemy.

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WILLOW
Also known as White Willow, Tree of Enchantment and Witches' Asprin. Once of the seven sacred trees of the Irish, a Druid sacred Tree. The willow is a Moon tree sacred to the White Lady, Its groves were considered so magickal that priests, priestesses and all types of artisans sat among these trees to gain eloquence, inspiration, skills and prophecies. For a wish to be granted, ask permission of the willow, explaining your desire. Select a pliable shoot and tie a loose knot in it while expressing what you want. When the wish is fulfilled. return and untie the knot. Remember to thank the willow and leave a gift.
SillyPutty
according to the first link...

Lily's wand is Willow as is Ron's... which stands for: Love, Divination, Protection, Healing

Which connects Ron to Lily once more - he was the one who sacrificed himself for Harry to continue in SS.


I found the following at http://www.dutchie.org/Tracy/tree.html#willow

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The Willow has applications in magick done for enchantment, wishing, romantic love, healing, protection, fertility, magick for women, death, femininity, love, divination, friendship, joy, love, and peace. Placed in homes, Willow branches protect against evil and malign sorcery. Carried, Willow wood will give bravery, dexterity, and help one overcome the fear of death. If you knock on a Willow tree (knock on wood) this will avert evil. A Willow tree growing near a home will protect it from danger (I know this to be true. When the tornado hit our farm, the only reason we only lost part of the roof, rather than the whole house, was because the grove of Willows around the house protected us. Our poor Willows got pretty battered by the storm, lost most of their leaves and quite a few branches, but have recovered fully now!). Willows are also a good tree to plant around cemeteries and also for lining burial graves for its symbolism of death and protection. Willows can be used in rituals for intuition, knowledge, gentle nurturing, and will elucidate the feminine qualities of both men and women. If a person needs to get something off their chest or to share a secret, if they confess to a Willow, their secret will be trapped. Also, wishes are granted by a Willow tree if they are asked for in the correct manner. Willow leaves, bark and wood add energy to healing magick, and burning a mix of Willow bark and sandalwood during the waning moon can help to conjure spirits. Uses of Willow in love talismans include using the leaves to attract love. Willow leaves or twigs can also be used in spells to create loyalty, make friendship pacts, treaties, or alliances. A rejected lover can wear Willow as a charm to win back the love. To determine if you will be married in the new year.


I bolded two lines I thought were the most important... the connection to the protection against evil and using twigs when making pacts. I know it was theorized somewhere else that it was Lily's wand who that made the Fidilus Charm with Peter.

another link: http://www.spiritproject.com/horoscope/celts/willow.htm

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COMMON: Willow-tree-people are very close to nature; and like the tree loves the water, the person has to be in a constant flow as well. Willows love the challenge and their way of testing their own borders. Their self-image is connected with their border experiences. They love harmony and quite often they gain their well-being with luxury; although they are normally rather undemanding.
STRENGTH: The strenght of the willow tree is their easy access to their inner world. They have an unequaled sense for security and orientation. But they can still transfer the realizations to the outer world. Their toughness, tolerance and philantrophy makes it easy for them to have professional success.
WEAKNESS: The weakness of the willow lies in their sensivity. Even if their bark seem to be robust, a sensitive person is hiding behind. If a willow tree doesn't find a right field of action, they tend to flee from reality. Then they seem pessimistic and sarcastic.
LOVE: Willow-tree-people are sensitive and endearing partners. They don't dominate, but also don't tolerate dominance from others. They are longing for harmony and equality, they want unison in their feelings. With their simple and natural authority, they are a great support to weaker partners.


I would like to know what Lily's wand core was though.
theredwitch
Rowling posted a bit on wand woods on her web site. Here is a link to the text only version. It was from the Extra Stuff, under Misc.
memyslfnI
Hermiones wood is interesting:

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IVY / VINE - The Ivy was sacred to Osiris as well as to Dionysus. Vine and Ivy come next to each other at the turn of the year, and are jointly dedicated to resurrection. Presumably, this is because they are the only two trees that grow spirally. The Vine also symbolizes resurrection because its strength is preserved in the wine.
OCCULT ASPECTS: (VINE) Faerie work, Joy, Exhilaration, Wrath, Rebirth.(IVY) Fidelity, Constancy, Love, Intoxication



We have mentioned Osirius many times in the threads. But i am not remembering if we tried to connect Hermione to Osirius. (I know Clunycat did a great job in her Scribbulus essay talking about Osirus in connection with Snape!)

more on Lily's wand:

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WILLOW - The Willow was sacred to Hecate, Circe, Hera, and Persephone, all death aspects of the Triple Moon Goddess, and was often used by the Witches in Greece. The moon owns it. Female symbol. It is the tree that loves water most and is sacred to the Moon Goddess who is the giver of dew and moisture, generally. The Willow is the tree of enchantment. Can be made into a tool to make wishes come true.
OCCULT PURPOSES: Moon magic, psychic energy, healing, inspiration, fertility



More evidence that Lily is the first White queen in Alchemy! The triple moon goddess! We spoke of that in length!
galadriel12
I would like to try clearing up (or making worse?) the confusion about Ron´s wand.

In the book it is not stated what kind of wood Ron´s first wand is made of. Ron´s second wand is decsribed as made of willow (PoA).

I´ve read what JKR has said on her website about the wands and their (coincidental) connection with the celtic myth. Now, what I ask myself is, why put so much thought into giving the trio each a wand wood that correlates to their birthdate, and thus emphasise the connection between the three friends, only to have Ron´s ash wand, which was not even orignially his own, to be broken after one year? And then give Ron a willow wand, which has been bought specifically for him, which is actually his own wand (The wand chooses the wizard) and which he will use for the most part of the series. That doesn´t seem to make sense. Unless, it is not so important, but we know from JKR herself that the connection between the wizard and his wand is important.
Is it possible, the willow wand is a kind of editing error or anything? As far as I know, JKR has never cleared that up.
SillyPutty
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more on Lily's wand:

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WILLOW - The Willow was sacred to Hecate, Circe, Hera, and Persephone, all death aspects of the Triple Moon Goddess, and was often used by the Witches in Greece. The moon owns it. Female symbol. It is the tree that loves water most and is sacred to the Moon Goddess who is the giver of dew and moisture, generally. The Willow is the tree of enchantment. Can be made into a tool to make wishes come true.
OCCULT PURPOSES: Moon magic, psychic energy, healing, inspiration, fertility

More evidence that Lily is the first White queen in Alchemy! The triple moon goddess! We spoke of that in length!

I will have to agree with you on this, I know in one of the RG's we had a lengthy discussion with the connection of Lily to the moon.

An interestng fact about Willows, just from basic knowledge. Willows are known to destroy pipes if there is not enough water around because their roots are attracted to water. They are found mostly near water and the more water it has the stronger the tree with grow and the longer it will live. You can not over water a willow...

Bring in water to the equation - water/tides are deeply connected with the moon and its phases. In a lot of folklore, magic and evil things can not cross over water or water crosses out the effectiveness of the magic. Since willows often border rivers... can this be another sign protectiveness? If something was trying to cross a river, its magic being blocked... a willow can easily stand in its way blocking the magic from fully crossing over and its magic no longer being blocked.

Like I said, these are just thoughts because when I am reading these posts on Lily and her wand, I kep getting an image of a willow tree at night on the edge of a dark river and I just want to see if my ideas have any merit.
memyslfnI
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ASH - The Ash is sacred to Poseidon and Woden. The Ash is considered to be the father of trees. The Ash is the tree of sea power, or of the power resident in water. Special guardian spirits reside in the Ash; This makes it excellent for absorbing sickness. The spirally carved druidical wand was made of Ash for this purpose.
OCCULT ASPECTS: Sea power, karmic laws, magical potency, healing, [b]protection from drowning[/b]


Here's a stretch..and please feel free to correct or dissect this theory but He breaks his wand in CoS and gets a new one in Poa..Prior to the second task in GoF. Could this be a little clue as to his part in the second task? (I know it is far fetched! tongue.gif )

As to why he has a willow wand now? Well he doee have a connection to the Womping willow! However, as the theme of death follows this wand..(I have said over and over that Ron will sacrifice himself..) He has a unicorn tail (same as cedric) and now a willow wand? (same as Lily) things do not bode well for Ron!
SillyPutty
so, basically, both of Ron's wands have a connection with water - in a way and protection. As for getting a Willow wand and his ash wand being taken from him by the whomping willow... that reminded me of the way some totem spirits make themselves known to a person - by marking them.



towerdweller
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Right you are TD!! clap.gif
Holly is a perfect wood for Harry and it ties into the death rebirth theory we have tossed around since book 5.
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HOLLY
A beautiful white wood with an almost invisible grain; looks very much like ivory. Holly is associated with the death and rebirth symbolism of winter in both Pagan and Christian lore and is important to the Winter Solstice. In Arthurian legend, Gawain (representing the Oak King of summer) fought the Green Knight, who was armed with a holly club to represent winter. It is one of the three timbers used in the construction of chariot wheel shafts. It was used in spear shafts also. The qualities of a spear shaft are balance and directness, as the spear must be hefted to be thrown the holly indicates directed balance and vigour to fight if the cause is just. Holly may be used in spells having to do with sleep or rest, and to ease the passage of death. A bag of leaves and berries carried by a man is said to increase his ability to attract women.
I find the connection between holly wood and sleep very interesting. We know that Harry has some very interesting dreams. Are his dreams affected by proximity to his wand? Where does Harry keep his wand when he's sleeping--under his pillow or beside his bed?
Narya
M, that's a great point about the possibility of DD having a holly wand! clap.gif

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The wood of holly is very white and is associated with death and rebirth in pagan and Christian lore. It is one of three woods used to construct chariot wheels. It was also used to make spear and arrow shafts, its properties assuring directness and precision. Holly can aid in healing and rest.


I can't think of a link between DD and a chariot, but the characteristics of the wood definitely match what we know of DD. We used to have a great wand thread on the old board - I'll see if I can dredge it up again and post it as a link in this discussion.

OK, adding some more information ...

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As with most other trees the Holly was revered for its protective qualities. The Holly guards against lightening, poisoning and mischievous spirits, and when planted around the home it protects the inhabitants from evil sorcerers …In ritual uses, Holly is associated with the death and rebirth symbolism of winter. Holly also symbolizes holiness, consecration, material gain, physical revenge, beauty, and immortality, as well as peace, goodwill and health. It can be used ritually to aid and help with a person’s ability to cope with death, and to ease their sleep with peaceful dreams. The Holly has always been associated with mid winter festivals and was used in old Celtic traditions for celebrating the sun gods birth at the winter solstice.
(bold is mine)

TD, I'm not sure where Harry keeps his wand when he's asleep, but I'd guess beside his bed, so that it's never very far from him.

Interesting to note that all three Potters have wands made of woods which are linked to protection - James with the mahogany, Lily with the willow and Harry with the holly.

Another little snippet which links to Hagrid:

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Oak through the ages was revered by many cultures particularly for its protective qualities, and in Britain it still stands proud as the “King of the Forest”. In early Celtic times certain oaks were marked with a protective symbol, a circle divided into four equal parts (symbolic of the four elements - Earth, Air, Fire and Water), this was probably a forerunner of the magic pentacle (an up-right five pointed star in-side a circle, symbolic of the four elements plus “spirit”). Most likely this was an old druidic custom for the druids revered the oak above all other trees, believing it hosted the energy, power and strength of their gods. Due to its size and longevity the oak was known as the “Garden in the Forest”, for it attracts the growth of various forms of plant life.


I remember reading somewhere else that oak wood was particularly good for channeling spells - I'll see if I can find the link and post it.

SillyPutty, I found some more information on willow which bears out the water theory ...

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The Willow's weeping stance reflects its association with grief. By wearing a piece of Willow (as in the popular song "All around my hat I will wear the green Willow") a person will be able to access all the levels of their grief, and be able to move through these levels to gain healing and inner strength …. Its associated element is Water. The willow is used to attract the powers needed for such things as: Protection, Divination, Inspiration, Healing, Fertility, Love, Grief and Death, and anything to do with the element Water.


All information from this website and this one
memyslfnI
There is the Chariot Tarot Card. (Though, and not to get off topic) I have always thought of him as "the Hermit'
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The chariot is one of the most complex cards to define. On its most basic level, it implies war, a struggle, and an eventual, hard-won victory. Either over enemies, obstacles, nature, the beasts inside you, or to just get what you want. But there is a great deal more to it. The charioteer wears emblems of the sun, yet the sign behind this card is Cancer, the moon. The chariot is all about motion, and yet it is often shown as stationary.

Is this a streatch?

Hard won victory for our beloved headmaster?
SillyPutty
memyselfandI - that is a useful connection because DD is simiular in some ways to what some would deem a hermit, while he is out there in the wizarding world he prefers to stay at his school and out of the way of things until it is time to come into action.
Thanks Narya! I found some more information on the Willow here More interesting things I found are:
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The willow is an ancient tree and goes back as far as the Cretaceous Period
Found it interesting since the magic she used an ancient magic that Voldemort did not know
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Its groves are considered magical that all types of artisans sat amoung the trees to gain eloquence, inspiration, skills and prophecies

An another weird fact - the willow tree is connected to the cat? Odd...
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