Who picked Draco to be prefect? |
 Jun 4 2007, 01:09 PM
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Inquiring about Double-ended Newts Posts: 986 Joined: 12:32pm July 27, 2005  |
In Chapter 9 Lupin and Moody are discussing how DD must have felt Ron was good enough and then Tonks was saying she was not made a prefect because of her head of house. So my guess is that whoever is to become prefect is suggested by the head of house but confirmed by the headmaster. Just my thoughts.
But this also gets me thinking…why would DD allow Draco to become a prefect? |
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 Jun 4 2007, 01:15 PM
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Quality Quidditch Supplies Test-Flyer Posts: 1,289 Joined: 8:28am April 2, 2007 Location: 1973    |
I'm guessing that Snape would have recommended him, and presured DD into giving it to him. Although I doubt that DD would bow to the pressure.
Maybe DD thought that it would help Malfoy to take some responsibility and to become a better person. After all, he made Lupin a prefect, in Lupin's opinion, to help control his friends, which Lupin couldn't / wouldn't. This shows that DD can make mistakes in his choice of prefects, so maybe that's what happened with his choosing Draco.  Hope that makes sense! 
This post has been edited by Micromys minutus: Jun 4 2007, 01:16 PM -------------------- "Oh no, not again" -Bowl of Petunias The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy |
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Jun 4 2007, 01:22 PM
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Being Chosen by a Wand at Ollivander's Posts: 2,963 Joined: 8:53am April 20, 2006 Location: Prifysgol Bangor Univeristy, Bangor, Cymru |
Is is Dumbledore, or like what Micromys minutus said, did Snape - head of house - reccommend him? I hope Jo fills us in on these things in the encylcopedia. The Prefect system never worked and was ditched at my school which was a shame because even though I doubted I'd have got it I would have loved to have been a prefect. My dad was Prefect and Head Boy (sound like Percy - he is!) but I never understood how it worked in his school. Could someone fill me in on theirs? No prefects and no detention - man I feel I've missed out! lol!
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Jun 4 2007, 01:22 PM
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Getting Fitted for New Dress Robes Posts: 51 Joined: 4:19am May 27, 2007 |
Your suggestions about the system for appointing prefects would certainly be in keeping with practice in most schools.
Why should Prof. Dumbledore not accept Prof. Snape's nomination of Draco unless there was a much stronger candidate available? He may even have felt the appointment might help Draco to become more responsible himself. |
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Jun 4 2007, 01:26 PM
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Monster Book Stacker Posts: 364 Joined: 6:29pm August 7, 2005 Location: Nicking food from the kitchens |
I had also thought that the Headmaster had the final say on who was appointed prefect. I can see why Dumbledore would have accepted the reccommendation of Malfoy. He may not be the most pleasant person at Hogwarts, but he does have quite a bit of influence over his fellow Slytherins and Dumbledore always likes to believe the best in people so maybe he was hoping that Draco would take his responsibility seriously and not abuse his powers.
-------------------- "We may know what we are, but not what we may be."~~ William Shakespeare
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Jun 4 2007, 02:19 PM
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Being Chosen by a Wand at Ollivander's Posts: 2,963 Joined: 8:53am April 20, 2006 Location: Prifysgol Bangor Univeristy, Bangor, Cymru |
I agree with the Headmaster picking the Prefects, yet I found that my Headmaster said he hardly knew any of the kids at the school personally, and the only people he knew the names of were bad kids who'd been sent to see him. Therefore, how could he know which ones, other than seeing their reports, were worthy of becoming prefects? They would have probably had to be involved with the school a lot and done loads of honurable things apart from work.
-------------------- "...because if there is one thing I've learned from all I've been through, it's that you only regret the things that you didn't do." Cameron Duncan |
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Jun 4 2007, 03:52 PM
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Terrortours Travel Agent Posts: 6,828 Joined: 12:34pm January 24, 2007 |
Hogwarts isn't such a big school. With only 40 students per year it shouldn't be hard to get to know students during their first 4 years. If each House has 5 students of each sex each year (never mind how it is possible to always work out that way), and one has to pick a boy and a girl who are both suited to be Prefects and can work together there aren't that many choices. In Harry's year among Gryffindors, if the girl was going to be Hermione then the boy could only be either Harry or Ron. If one of the other girls were to be chosen then the boy would have had to be one of the other 3, and as we don't know enough about the social dynamics there we can't be sure what other limitations there might be. Being a Prefect might have been too strainful for Neville, especially before his growth in the 5th year. I must say that I can't imagine anyone but Hermione putting any kinds of limits on the twins, so I think Dumbledore made a very wise choice with her.
Among the 5 Slytherin boys Crabbe and Goyle are obviously out. Nott is an outsider - he might be able to stand up to Draco personally (though we haven't seen any of this in canon yet) but does he care enough to discipline the students in other years? Would Crabbe and Goyle listen to him if Draco tells them otherwise? Also, apparently Pansy has a lot of influence among the Slytherin girls, so perhaps the Draco-Pansy Prefect team was the logical combination. |
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Jun 4 2007, 11:17 PM
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Gringotts Goblin Translator Posts: 1,220 Joined: 12:37pm July 27, 2006 Location: Inside Dumbledore's Pensieve  |
Perhaps DD consulted Snape before choosing the House Prefects.Well even if he didn't,who else do you think could have been made prefect apart from Draco(and Pansy)?
I agree with Oryx on this point.Draco and Pansy were the only Slytherins who had the Scope to become prefects.And besides,Draco did have the Slytherin qualities in him....(he did,didn't he!!) This post has been edited by Smartaps_2: Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM --------------------  Thanks to Azkaban Dietician for the chamber 29 sig! |
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Jun 5 2007, 12:10 AM
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The nicer member of the A-team  Posts: 5,554 Joined: 5:33pm March 30, 2007 Location: Pushing the sweets trolley on the Hogwarts Express  |
Just to clarify ... in the schools I've taught at, the prefects nominate themselves, and the teachers comment on who they think would/wouldn't make a good one. At one school I was at there were prefects of every type imaginable. One in charge of assemblies, one in charge of cultural perfromances, one in charge of the library etc etc. This meant that they were visible along with the teacher in charge of that area. It worked well. The only boy/girl thing was head boy and head girl.
Anyway, my guess would be that Snape would have the say in his house and would recommend people to DD. I think the heads of house would put forward the best boy and the best girl for the job regardless of whether they were friends or not. We don't know much about the Slytherins other than Malfoy etc, but Crabbe, Goyle and Milicent Bulstrode are all a bit lacking in brain to be prefects. If the other Slytherins are similar there would be little choice. --------------------  |
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Jun 5 2007, 06:34 AM
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Being Chosen by a Wand at Ollivander's Posts: 2,963 Joined: 8:53am April 20, 2006 Location: Prifysgol Bangor Univeristy, Bangor, Cymru |
Sethtaylorsummer that is similar to how at my college there's a Student Assebly and people are incharge of entertainment, sports, charity events etc.
However I feel this may be going off topic a bit and I remember another thread a while ago discussing how Prefects were selected. I agree with how Draco and Pansy were the only Slytherins with scope to become Prefects. All the other Slytherins acknowlaged them and they were the 'ring leaders' for want of a better word. To be honest, it was the same with picking Ernie McMillan; there were only several charachters we knew of in each house so to us as readers one of them were going to be Prefects and that was no surprise. -------------------- "...because if there is one thing I've learned from all I've been through, it's that you only regret the things that you didn't do." Cameron Duncan |
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