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Posted by: innkeeper_tom Sep 3 2007, 07:57 AM

Do you have a question, you always wanted to be answered? Are you unsure about events and/or their significance in the time before Harry's birth? Are their any loose ends you want to be tied together?

If so, please help us and post your suggestions here. We, in turn, will help you setting up polls or starting new topics. The idea behind is to make this forum a place of vivid, interesting discussions.

If you don't want to post your ideas here, or if you don't want to go into details, feel free to send a PM to me or the other moderators of this forum.

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: bjr Sep 4 2007, 01:09 AM

Well, since I'm not sure where else I could put these questions, I'll guess I'll start here. I'm currently watching PoA, and starting thinking about Herminone and Harry using the time travel watch. This is the watch she has been given so she could attend all sorts of classes at the same time. The watch was something the professors knew about. Seeing as the professors and probably DD knew about the watch, why couldn't Snape or anyone else for the matter, use this time travel watch to stop LV from murdering Harry's parents or use it to stop Tom Riddle from becoming LV?

My second question, how long were Lily and James supposed to stay in hiding...assuming Peter hadn't betrayed them? Until Harry grew up?

Posted by: Moose_Starr Sep 4 2007, 10:04 AM

bjr

A History of Magic is a forum for everything in the Harry Potter timeline before baby-Harry's defeat of You-Know-Who. So, although you've asked some interesting questions, they can not be considered as options for future topics in this forum.

However, you might be interested to check out the Great Wizarding Events forum which includes topics covering PoA and in particular a discussion on Time Turners : http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=47455&view=findpost&p=1264113.
Also in Magical Theory there are some threads about Time Turners including http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=16854&view=findpost&p=467110 and http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=44510&view=findpost&p=1203379.

Posted by: orange fwooper Sep 5 2007, 10:15 AM

This has probably been asked lots of times, but what did James and Lily do for a living before going itno hiding with Harry?

Posted by: Moose_Starr Sep 5 2007, 10:57 AM

There are some threads that you may be interested to read, discussing theories about Lily & James's jobs, or where they got their money from. Here are a few examples :

http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=53388&view=findpost&p=1372135

http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=31651&view=findpost&p=907009

http://www.leakylounge.com/betaforum2.3.1/index.php?s=&showtopic=19718&view=findpost&p=560891

Posted by: Shard Oct 23 2007, 01:14 PM

I was wondering if we could start threads on each of the founders. Like Helga and the House Elf issues for instance...

Posted by: Moose_Starr Oct 24 2007, 11:49 AM

Sure
While there are threads in NMN about character analasys, or in Obscurus about slavery, having threads based upon pre-Book 1 Canon events and characters would fit just fine in this forum.

Posted by: lcguinea Dec 6 2007, 10:35 PM

What happened to Sirius?? He just passed through that portal and died? I think is a stupid death.

Posted by: bookmonster79 Dec 6 2007, 10:45 PM

I would like to see more discussions on DD's young life. I would like to see discussion on his relationship w/ Grindwald including or excluding JKR's revelation.
I would also like to have some more discussion on McGonagal's work outside of Hogwart's. Nothing much is ever said about what she did for the Order, either b4 Harry defeated Voldy or in later years.
I'm sure I'll think of more.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 7 2007, 09:49 AM

Hi bookmonster! Why don't you just start a new thread on whatever you deem interesting? Or do you need help, like how to look for existing (perhaps older) threads, or maybe just concerning the technicalities? If so, please feel free to PM me or any other of the HoM mods.

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: blue_dreamer Dec 13 2007, 05:51 AM

I've had a thought I've been thinking for some time, but I've never found a thread to fit it and I'm not sure it's enough to start one myself.

From the beginning of Half-Blood Prince we see the devastating effect's of Voldemort's war on the Muggle World, and how they don't realise what is going on. If bad things are happening to them now; surely there must have been the same kind of disruption in the first war before Harry stopped Voldemort, surely the Muggles must have noticed something then. There would have been way too many of them to have all their memories wiped, so how come they don't appear to have known anything?

Posted by: tonksgirl Dec 13 2007, 08:47 AM

hi all!
i have a question and its probably been asked before but i dont know. so i want to know more about hagrids past life, i mean before he started school too. actually i think it would be interesting to have more details about his entire life right up till harrys birth. did he live in the mountains with his giantess mother?? or did he live with his dad? i really think it would be an interesting interesting topic and, if there is not a thread on it yet, i wonder if i could make one?

thanks,
tonksgirl

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 13 2007, 08:56 AM

Hi blue_dreamer and tonksgirl,

please feel free to open the topics you proposed. If you need any help, please contact the HoM moderator team via PM. One of us will surely be able to answer your questions.

Posted by: tonksgirl Dec 13 2007, 09:43 AM

thanks!!!!

Posted by: natt_weasley Jan 9 2008, 07:28 AM

Has anybody ever thought about what was going to happen before Harry was born? Okay, that doesn't make much sense. I shall rephrase!!
Who/what was going to stop Volders before the prophecy was made? I mean, I know there was the Order of the Phoenix, but loads of them were getting killed, weren't they and I just think that nobody had any idea who was actually going to stop Voldy, until old Trelawney had her moment...

any ideas? xox

Posted by: Moose_Starr Jan 9 2008, 10:11 AM

Although there are several threads in History of Magic discussing the Prophesy, at what stage was it overheard, and various other theories, I dont think that this specific notion has been discussed yet. In my opinion it raises an interesting question and leaves plenty room for theorizing and speculation, so please feel free to go right ahead and start a thread on this topic

Posted by: MsJava Jan 9 2008, 01:15 PM

I wonder if there would be a way to focus on a couple of items in the Room of Requirment (i.e. the bloody axe, the skeleton in the cage). Maybe James, Lily, Lupin, Sirius or even Snape all put objects in there. It would be interesting to see who some of those items belong to, the history behind them, and why they were hidden.

Does this make any sense?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 9 2008, 01:50 PM

Yes, it does. Try to find an "attractive" title, think of an inspiring starting post, and - start a new thread!

Posted by: Danielle.H Feb 5 2008, 03:18 PM

Someone asked wat happened to sirius when he passed through the veil? That room, called the Death Chamber, is like an execution room, only slightly more peaceful. Correct me if im wrong?

Posted by: the_boy_who_lived Feb 5 2008, 04:12 PM

I thought that Hagrid said his dad died right before he started at Hogwarts and his mom left them when he was very young. So I suspect he lived with his dad up until he went to Hogwarts and lived at Hogwarts ever since.

Posted by: harrydavid Feb 5 2008, 06:38 PM

Jo said in an interview that the room was used to study death; it was never used as an execution chamber.

Posted by: Oryx Feb 5 2008, 07:35 PM

Hagrid's father died when Hagrid was in his second year. Hagrid was expelled about a year or so later, June of his third year. He then became assistant to the older groundskeeper, and at some point got the job himself. We also have from Rowling that Hagrid has his accent because he is from the Forest of Dean (same area where Snape gives Harry the sword).

Posted by: SwimmingLee Feb 17 2008, 09:56 PM

i always wondered about the Prefect's hot tub. it was so clean.
the students were so well behaved.

at even the most well-behaved grade school, i doubt a hot tub
would ever be so clean.

plus, there's no smoking lounge. where do the naughty kids
hang out, besides Slytherin ?

Posted by: harrydavid Feb 17 2008, 11:51 PM

I assume the house-elves have a lot to do with it being that clean.

Posted by: lirene Feb 18 2008, 01:04 AM

I have the following question; does anyone know what type of wand Dumbledore used before he defeated Grindewald and won the Elder Wand? In my mind, I always imagined the core contained a phoenix feather, but not necessarily from Fawkes.

Posted by: Moose_Starr Feb 20 2008, 05:37 PM

Well I couldnt think, although I was convinced that we must have this fundamental yet essential information about DD but I just couldnt think what his wand was. So I've been looking through my books at random hoping to find a description but I cant see one. I've found references to his wand hand, his agile wand movements, and the fact that he can do wandless magic, but I cant find any description of his wand and my memory isnt bringing up any data here. So maybe we're never told (although if I'm wrong about that, I have no doubts that someone will put me right on this lol)

Posted by: Oryx Feb 20 2008, 06:20 PM

Rowling said something about never having been asked about Dumbledore's wand, so I think we still don't know about his original one, though we do know that at almost 18 he could do with it things Professor Marchbanks had never seen previously.

Posted by: Alysaw Feb 20 2008, 06:38 PM

I was trying to find the same quote you're talking about. I remember Jo saying she was so happy and couldn't believe no one had ever asked her what DD's wand was made of because it would have been a big clue about something. Of course now I can't remember what it was.

Posted by: moony_lupin Feb 20 2008, 06:48 PM

I think it was at Carnegie Hall or on the Bloomsbury Webchat, but I can't be sure.

That begs the question what would Dumbledore do with his old wand when he procured the Elder Wand from Grindewald? Unless he lost it in the battle with his old friend.

Posted by: Alysaw Feb 20 2008, 07:06 PM

This is all I could find from an interview but it really doesn't answer the question:
Please pose and answer the question you'd most like to address about the series! (a ha, turned it back on you.)
: Oooo, you're tough.
[b]J.K. Rowling: I must admit, I always wondered why nobody ever asked me what Dumbledore's wand was made of!
J.K. Rowling: And I couldn't say that, even when asked 'what do you wish you'd been asked...' because it would have sign-posted just how significant that wand would become!
[/b]

Posted by: Miss Padfoot Feb 23 2008, 01:40 PM

I have wondered for some time about one of the more mysterious characters of the Wizarding history: Salazar Slytherin.
We know quite a lot about him, and yet we know almost nothing about his motivations. Was he a kind of early Voldemort? Or would he maybe have been horrified if he knew what his heir went on to do?
We know that he was one of the founders of Hogwarts and for some time cooperated with the other three founders in educating children with magical abilities. We also know that he was a friend of Godric Gryffindor until their falling-out concerning muggle-borns. We do not know his precise birth and death dates, but he lived at a time in the middle ages when witch hunts were commonplace.
Salazar Slytherin was a Parselmouth and built the Chamber of Secrets. He thought muggle-borns untrustworthy and therefore wanted to keep the teaching of magic in all-magic families. But was he a dark wizard? The evidence is inconclusive.
One could without doubt argue that he was as dark as they come, that the entire pure-blood mentality started with him and that even though he left the school he made sure that one day his descendant could rid Hogwarts of all muggle-borns.
But on the other hand, on could also argue that he never thought of mugle-borns as inferior, but merely less trustworthy in the sense that those were not brought up to Wizarding ways and might some day pose a danger to the school and the Wizarding community. The fear of magic was very prevalent in the middle ages and the magical community was very small. Maybe he thought that only the utmost secrecy would prevent a total wipe-out of all that was magic. It could be argued that he might have created the Chamber of Secrets as a kind of last defence of Hogwarts in case the castle should ever be attacked.
history is always written by people, and people, even if they try to be subjective, tend to let their own view of things influence their accounts of events.

What do you think? Is there enough substance to this to start a new thread? Or is there an already existing thread discussing Slytherin?

Posted by: maggieann Feb 23 2008, 03:35 PM

The evidence on Salazar Slytherin is, as you say Miss Padfoot, inconclusive. There is the problem, though, of the basilisk! It could be that the Chamber of Secrets is there as a last defence if the school is attacked, but leaving a baslisk in a school full of children is not exactly the act of a good wizard.

I'm rambling here, thinking aloud, need to do some more thnking!

Posted by: Oryx Feb 23 2008, 03:48 PM

As long as the basilisk remained inside the chamber it only endangered the rodent population. (Imagine had Wormtail found his way over there, Potterverse history would have been completely different.) There's a fan theory that the Giant Squid was placed in the lake to guard access to the Chamber of Secrets from that side.

Posted by: Miss Padfoot Feb 23 2008, 04:16 PM

Yay! Seems like there might be at least a little interest in the topic...

Oryx, I really love your idea of dear Wormy wandering into the Hogwarts sewers...

Posted by: Moose_Starr Feb 23 2008, 07:46 PM

There are multiple threads about Salazar Slytherin which you can jump in and join but, if none of them answer your questions please feel free to start a thread so long as it covers different aspects and theories about Mister S.



http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=35910&view=findpost&p=1013167

http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=35835&view=findpost&p=1011076

http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=33843&view=findpost&p=958522

http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=34895&view=findpost&p=985512

http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=34535&view=findpost&p=976618

Posted by: Gllysa Mar 23 2008, 04:12 PM

What happened to Prof. Binn's body after he left it behind in the staffroom? How long has it been since he left it? Who found it? How and when did the house-elves become enslaved? I want to know about the goblin rebellions too. I'd love to get my hands on a copy of A History of Magic book. It would be fascinating.

Posted by: Moose_Starr Mar 23 2008, 06:47 PM

Actually I dont think we have any canon for that, other than knowing he just got up and carried on teaching. So, this could actually be more suited to the Predicting the Unpredictable forum.
I'll let you know as soon as possible about where this new thread would best be started

Posted by: Moose_Starr Mar 24 2008, 11:51 AM

I started a new http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=60622&view=findpost&p=1570542 thread in Predicting the Unpredictable using your question

There are some threads about house elf enslavement that might interest you:
http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=46624&view=findpost&p=1248123
http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=22108&view=findpost&p=630231
http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=32337&view=findpost&p=921664


So far as I know (well, so far as I can find) the only Goblin thread is http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=35728&view=findpost&p=1008488 If you want to start a thread in History of Magic about the goblin rebellions, please feel free to go ahead and do so

Posted by: stupefy_me Mar 24 2008, 12:08 PM

Is there a discussion on what Ludo Bagman is doing these days?

Posted by: KateWeasley08 Mar 24 2008, 12:15 PM

I was wondering if there was ever an interview with JKR about all the things she said would be answered in the 7th book but weren't? Like Dudley's worst memory (aka what he saw when the dementors got near), and who was it that was able to do magic later in life? I know there are other unanswered questions and I'm really curious... Thanks

Posted by: moony_lupin Mar 24 2008, 12:48 PM

JKR answered those two questions and many more in the http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html held a week after the release of DH on 30 July 2007.

Posted by: KateWeasley08 Mar 24 2008, 01:13 PM

thanks thats a big help!

Posted by: Moose_Starr Mar 25 2008, 11:53 AM

There's no thread that I know of. If you would like to start a thread, the best place to post it would be in http://www.leakylounge.com/Post-DH-Predictions-Pred-f299.html

Posted by: lirene Apr 1 2008, 03:27 PM

I've been wondering: is there a thread devoted to the most wonderful Hagrid?

I wanted to dedicate a thread to him because he seems to have been left in the background when he plays such an important role in the series, and more specifically in the trio's life.

The questions I wanted to address were the following:

1. What makes Hagrid so special?

2. Did anyone think he was a good teacher?

3. Did he go overboard with the often dangerous creatures he champions? If so, give some examples.

4. Do you think he was treated fairly by all of the teachers? Do you think anyone found him inferior because he was half giant?

5. What was it about Hagrid that Dumbledore valued so much? As early as Philosopher's Stone Dumbledore says that "I trust Hagrid with my life". Why did Dumbledore trust Hagrid so much; what caused this irrevocable trust that Dumbledore had for Hagrid?

6. Did you feel sorry for Hagrid when the trio decided not to take Care of Magical creatures? How do you think the trio handled the situation?

Anyway, these were just some thoughts I had. My sincerest apologies if I have posted this in the wrong thread.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 2 2008, 08:21 AM

No need to apologize, lirene! This topic has been set up to ask questions like yours, and have them answered, if possible.

We have several threads dealing with Hagrid, some of them fairly old, and all are found at Notable Magical Names. This is no coincidence, as all topics on characters from the HP series will (perhaps after a gentle modly push) end up over there. Looking at your questions, I'd expect yours would be transferred as well. Nonetheless, I'd encourage you to start a new "Hagrid" thread as the former topics didn't address your points.

Have a look, please:

http://www.leakylounge.com/-t54745.html&view=findpost&p=1409031
http://www.leakylounge.com/-t17009.html&view=findpost&p=473014
http://www.leakylounge.com/-t40688.html&view=findpost&p=1112668
http://www.leakylounge.com/-t32103.html&view=findpost&p=915870

If you have further questions, go ahead...

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: lirene Apr 2 2008, 10:38 AM

Thanks so much, innkeeper_tom! I visited the threads you were kind enough to provide, and I have just opened a new thread about Hagrid in Notable Magical Names.

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Apr 2 2008, 11:36 AM

I've always wondered...if Dumbledore's wand was the Elder wand (which then passed to Harry, via Draco by way of disarming), then which whose wand was Dumbledore buried with? Draco disarmed him at the top of the tower so Dumbledore was left wandless. But we know Dumbledore was buried with a wand because Voldemort broke into his tomb to steal it, thinking it was the Elder Wand.

Have I missed something?

Posted by: roonwit Apr 2 2008, 12:28 PM

Dumbledore was buried with the Elder wand, which presumably was retrieved from wherever it fell.

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Apr 5 2008, 06:50 PM

Having just re-read the series, I worked it out. Dumbledore was buried with the Elder Wand, because even though Draco disarmed him, he didn't catch the wand. So Dumbledore was buried with the Elder Wand, but Draco was really the new master of the wand because he disarmed Dumbledore, even though he never used it. (Harry says something about the wand having a new master that had never even touched it)

And so, when Harry disarmed Draco at Malfoy Manor, even though the wand he took was Draco's own wand, the Elder Wand then recognised Harry as it's new master.

Isn't wandlore fascinating? I personally hope there's more about wandlore in the Scottish Book.

Thankyou for replying though, roonwit

Posted by: tonksgirl Apr 5 2008, 08:29 PM

ive been wanting to start a poll with the following idea:

If you had seen the same vision as Harry in OotP (of LV torturing Sirius) would you have gone to the Ministry of Magic to save him?

* Yes.
* No.
* Unsure.

i would really like to see this poll because i have been curious about what people's feelings are on this matter. did harry rush into it too impulsively? or did he just act as any other would have? because, after all, it was "technically" because sirius had to go go rescue harry (instead of the other way around), and that was what caused his death. (not: i am not blaming harry for sirius' death!!!) i would like to know other peoples point of view on it.

is this a possible poll?

thanks.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 6 2008, 04:12 AM

Sure it is! With respect to the dedication of our forums, however, I think, your idea would not be suited for HoM, as we are dealing with events that happened before book 1, while your question refers explicitly to OotP.
I'd recommend opening your poll in "Notable Magical Names".

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: Bradley Apr 6 2008, 04:30 AM

I think Harry doesn't think things through very well. I mean Sirius is being tortured and needs help, Voldemort is int he Ministry of Magic and is trying to find something (the "weapon" to use against Harry) So Harry just assumes that he is the only one that can save Sirius, even though there is all of the Order...


So I have a few questions and maybe I have just forgotten somethings-

Where was Dumbledore when Voldemort was in the MoM? I know he was off doing soemthing, but what?

Did Harry lose his scar after Voldemort was defeated? (I made a theory a long time ago that he would lose the scar and a bunch of people thought it was a stupid idea, but I remember something like that happening in DH)

Did we ever hear in DH where all of the people that died in the battle at Hogwarts were buried?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 6 2008, 04:34 AM

If you feel like asking these questions, go ahead, Bradley! Once again, these questions would better be suited for another forum but HoM. In your case most likely GWE (the first one), and "Predicting the Unpredictable" for the second one.

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: Kermit Apr 12 2008, 09:16 PM

This may be a new topic, I don't know... Here is something I've been meaning to ask: Did you ever wonder why Snape, being so gifted with potions, never used a love potion on Lily? My guess is that he always had a noble heart even though he chose to join the wrong side at first. So, what do you think?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 13 2008, 04:33 AM

After running a search, I'm rather sure that we didn't have a thread addressing this specific question here in HoM. There were a few threads, however, where the use of a love potion has been discussed (e.g. did Merope use a potion etc.). So please feel free to open a new topic.

Posted by: Flight_of_Death Apr 15 2008, 06:28 PM

my question i guess relates to the past

Why did Tom Riddle think that the hufflepuff cup, like the locket belonged to him?

and

What ever happened to he mirror of erised?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 16 2008, 10:41 AM

The first one yes, as anything that Riddle did to get the founders' artifacts, has happened before Harry was born.

The second one, I'm afraid, is not HoM material - we have seen the mirror in PS/SS, and it has been mentioned in several others. Now, if you are interested what has happened to it, then this would not fit into a forum dedicated to anything before book 1.

So, if you want to open a thread on your first question, feel free to do so. If you need assistance, just sent a PM.

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: Azkaban's_Angel Apr 21 2008, 10:17 AM

I'd be interested in knowing peoples opinions on whether the ministry should have searched for LV while he was in hiding in Albania etc. DD said in CoS that his sources said that LV was currently hiding out there, if Wormtail could find him surely the ministries far more skilled aurors could have managed it. Could this have prevented the second war? If they had searched for him early on?

I don't know if this would be a suitable topic for a poll but I do think it could generate interesting discussion

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 21 2008, 11:19 AM

Yes, definitely an interesting topic!
Unfortunately - not HoM material. (I hate having to say this!), as LV hid in Albania after his attempt to kill baby Harry. This topic would probably be suited for GWE.

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: The-T-Dane Apr 26 2008, 11:30 AM

Just for the fun of it:
Did Ron ever get his collection of frog-cards complete?

I have searched, but not found any Q/A on that, but will be perfectly happy to be linked, if it has already been brought up.

Posted by: Kermit Apr 26 2008, 08:45 PM

How about this question: Will the Room of Requirement ever restore itself after the devastating fire? We have to assume that all those objects hidden there over the years were obliterated, so that particular "incarnation" of the room will never come back. So, does the room still exist?

Posted by: dumblond-peppa Apr 26 2008, 08:52 PM

Thats actually a pretty good question

I've just asumed that he gave up on it, because theres more important things, like defeating Voldie, but who knows

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 27 2008, 03:03 AM

Both questions are interesting, and I encourage both of you to start a new topic. But once again, I'm terribly sorry to have to tell you that neither of the questions is suited for this forum. Both would perfectly fit into the scope of "http://www.leakylounge.com/Post-DH-Predictions-Pred-f299.html". Please feel free to start your new threads there, thank you.

Posted by: The-T-Dane Apr 27 2008, 02:12 PM

Thanks innkeeper tom, but I haven't the faintest idea, how to do that!

Yet I have anothter question for you, because you seem quite wise on where to find what, so please bear with me:

Every year a certain amount of new students come to Hogwarts.
How can it be, that the castle has just the right amount of beds for each year?
How can the WW be "producing" the exact amount of children to fit into each year?
How many students is there on Hogwarts at once - all in all? (Because at one of the Quidditch-games, I got the impression, that there were hundreds of Slytherins, but there couldn't be, could there?)
Is there always the same amount of students in each of the houses? Or is it just a coincidence, that the classes with Hagrid has 20 students in it - Gryffindor and Slytherins having equal amounts of students?

Is all this just magic or is there some other answers to these questions?
Can I get a link or links? Please *puppy eyes*

Posted by: Moose_Starr Apr 27 2008, 03:19 PM

That's actually a very interesting question and I dont think we know the answer. However as inkeeper_tom said it does not cover events that happened leading up to baby-Harry's defeat of LV, it wouldnt fit in here but, please feel free to start a new thread in Predicting the Unpredictable to discuss this. If you do not know how to post a new topic please feel free to PM me and I can start it for you.


This would more likely be a discussion for Magical Theory. If there isnt an existing thread you can start one there (but I think there might be something similar so I will try to find it)

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 27 2008, 04:01 PM

That's what we mods are here for. (Apart from some other more mundane things...)
1) Hop over to PtU.
2) Scroll down the index and find this button -> .
3) Click it.
4) Enter a topic name and a short description in the respective fields.
5) Enter the starting post.
6) Scroll down to find the button labeled "Post new topic" and click it.
Voilà! Done.


At MT we're still searching for threads covering this topic. A first quick search did not come up with a recent result. I'll come back to you with a more detailed answer.

Like these?

Posted by: Moose_Starr Apr 27 2008, 04:05 PM

inkeeper_tom, that's a kitty

Posted by: The-T-Dane Apr 27 2008, 04:28 PM

Now now, its nearly midnight at my place, so innkeeper_tom is maybe feeling my fatigue - be overbearing! The innkeeper has helped me, so I've GOT to give _tom credit? (that was your credit!)

I've actually startet my first own thread - wow - followed the instructions and it didn't blow up, wink or anything else weird!

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Apr 30 2008, 03:55 AM

I promised to find an answer to your question, T-Dane - here it is (well, sort of):

We checked the most likely locations and only found this thread related to your question on the "Hogwarts houses problem":
http://www.leakylounge.com/240-Students-Hogwarts-t52904.html&view=getnewpost

This thread is, however, a little bit dusty, the last post was 18th August 2007.

Now if you feel like opening a new topic (which is now no longer a mystery for you ), I'd recommend strongly to give it a different twist. If you gave the starting post a historical touch, we would be happy to host this new thread here at HoM, otherwise you should probably open it at the location of the old one (i.e. GWE), with the risk of the both being merged.

Posted by: The-T-Dane Apr 30 2008, 08:33 AM

Thanks again innkeeper_tom bu by following threads further on from your link, I found there were quite a few other topics dealing with my questions. One of my biggest problems here at Leaky is, that I'm lost when it comes to how it's organized. I'm sure it must be locical - I just don't get it. I find a thread that seems interesting, but it's late, so I will go on tomorrow, but then next day - even though I had it written down, what it was called - I am completely unable to find it. Search, Sitemap - nothing! So trying to go back through the same path as yesterday - finally!
It just don't seem locigal to me, but then again - that must be, how it is to be at Hogwarts??? So I'm getting a little surprised almost every day as I follow the path laid to me by clicking one of the subjects in the bottom of the screen, and then see where it leads me.

Posted by: The-T-Dane Apr 30 2008, 07:03 PM

It seems like the "old" thread: http://www.leakylounge.com/240-Students-Hogwarts-t52904.html&view=getnewpost may be having some new "life", so the questions I had regarding the size and how many student at Hogwarts, I placed there anyway.

So anyone having oppinions, please join!


Edit: trying to insert the thread as a link! Hope it works - hard to figure out (for me at least).

Posted by: potterish10010 May 21 2008, 05:36 PM

I was wondering what you think was up with Neville as a kid? He ALWAYS forgot things and when he got older that went away. He also didn't get his magic powers until really late. They all thought that he wouldn't be a wizard. I was kind of thinking that Neville was near his parents when they were tourted and one of the death eaters put a blasted his memory a little to hard.........maybe because they didn't want him to rember something.

Just wondering if anyone else has asked this??????????????

Posted by: innkeeper_tom May 25 2008, 03:38 AM

Sorry for replying late, but we (the HoM mods) were discussing this behind the scenes.

As a first answer, I'd say the question as you put it, would fit in here. However, if you intend to start a new thread, I'd ask you to try to come up with a thread-starter that is opening discussion on (possible) events rather than on personality matters.

Hope that helps.

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: fawkes_the_phoenix Jun 14 2008, 12:13 PM

I think the reason for Neville's little oddities was due to the fact that he was so uptight and perhaps, friendless? In books 1-4 we never really hear about Neville being super close withh everyone. It was also during those years that he was most forgetful and wasn't very gifted in magic. Perhaps one's self-esteem affects one's magical ability?
And then in OOTP Neville becomes more of a main character; maybe this is when he really "blossoms" into a great wizard. from OOTP on, Neville becomes more and more confident, right up to the end when he chops of Nagini's head.
GOGO NEVILLE (:

Posted by: Moose_Starr Jun 15 2008, 10:29 AM

Although what happens to Neville after he's 1 year old doesnt fit in A History of Magic, the events in Neville's young life do fit in here. You guys can start a thread to discuss Neville, and how the events that occured while he was a baby affected him later in life. Or, if you dont want to or dont know how to start a thread, let us know and we (a History of Magic Mod) will start it for you.
It's an interesting topic because Dumbledore says about Merope : "It is possible that her unrequited love and the attendant despair sapped her of her powers, that can happen".
With Neville's own difficult childhood, the terrible things that he witnessed, it's likely that he felt despair (and a whole lot more) enough to *sap him of his powers* until he gained the courage and grew in confidence enough to overcome this.

Posted by: Danielle.H Jun 21 2008, 04:55 PM

About the Hagrid thing i we knew his mother was a giant and his father a wizard. His mother left them really early.. giants arn't very motherly i dont think! Then his father died.. i dont remember quite when tho.. *Goes to get GoF* Okay here it is The trio is with Hagrid looking at a photo of him and his father " 'Course, I never was great shakes at magic, really.. but at least he never saw me expelled. Died, see, in me second year.." ( HP&tGoF JK Rowling) So his father died the year he was expelled at which point DD gave him the position of gamekeeper and he lived at Hogwarts.

Posted by: harrydavid Jun 21 2008, 08:52 PM

Wasn't Hagrid expelled during his third year?

Posted by: Danielle.H Jun 21 2008, 10:26 PM

Oh hmmm i could very well have messed that up.. let me cheak.. awww i can't find it! but now you say that it sounds right.. maybe i thought it was his second year because it was harry's second year? anyone know for sure? and if he wasn't expelled till his third year.. i wonder where he lived that one summer.

Posted by: Moose_Starr Jun 22 2008, 10:55 AM

Hagrid's father died during Hagrid's second year at Hogwarts (1941-1942) and Hagrid was expelled the following year (1943) which was his third year at Hogwarts.

Posted by: Dumbledore's Woman Aug 18 2008, 05:50 PM

I think Dumbledore would have appealed to Dippet that Hagrid be allowed to stay at Hogwarts for that summer. I'm pretty sure DD says at one point (no idea where) that in exceptional circumstances students were allowed to stay on at Hogwarts during the summer. I think Riddle asked him if he could stay instead of going to the orphanage so it must have been in COS.

Posted by: EducationalDecreeNo23 Oct 11 2008, 04:48 AM

Hey, that's a really good point. But I don't think Neville's forgetfulness ever really went away. All kids forget things less as they get older. I don't think he was near them, but obviously he'd have visited them and wondered why his parents weren't like everyone elses.

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Dec 6 2008, 03:55 AM

Here's one I've always wondered about (I'm sure I'll think of more, though, and have to edit this post). I'm not sure where it would fit:

Where do the teachers of Hogwarts sleep? At first I thought their living quarters were directly adjacent to their offices (I forget why), but now it seems they sleep in different parts of the castle from where their offices are, but still relatively nearby? For example, in GoF, Snape comes running up to Filch (and Harry, hidden behind the Invisibility Cloak), saying he "heard banging and wailing...and was coming to investigate...and when I passed my office, I saw that the torches were lit and a cupboard door was ajar! Somebody has been searching it!" (USA edition, p469). So, if he could hear the banging and wailing from where he was sleeping, and his office was on the way to the source of the sound (the golden Egg), then his office would have to be relatively close to his living quarters, but not directly adjacent to them. But is it like that for all the teachers? Trelawney, for instance, seems to also live in the tower where she teaches, since she is said to "hardly ever" come down from "her tower" (forget who said that and when, sorry). But Professor Sprout teaches in the greenhouses outside the castle, on the grounds. So she can't possibly live nearby, unless she lived in a hut like Hagrid, and there's never any mention of "Sprout's hut." And where does McGonagall live? In or near Gryffindor tower? Or near the Transfiguration classrooms? What about Flitwick?

Linnea

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 6 2008, 12:34 PM

Good question, Linnea!

Why don't you write up a starting post for this topic and have it posted? Alas, I'm not fully convinced that this topic would belong to HoM; which I regret, because each and every post for "our" forum is highly valued.

However, since History of Magic is a forum that covers events before book 1, your thread would be more suited for the http://www.leakylounge.com/Memories-HP-Experience-f23.html, a forum for speculation about the HP books. So I encourage you to open your topic there If you need any help with your topic, please feel free to PM a moderator and we'll certainly be more than happy to help

Posted by: potter2005 Dec 6 2008, 01:26 PM

I don't know if this is the correct place to post this but I was wondering if they was a thread dealing with 'What if Lily married Snape' and 'would their child have been the one to defeat the dark lord'

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 6 2008, 05:26 PM

This is the place to ask such questions, potter2005.

To answer the question: I ran a search, but it's pretty hard to narrow down the options to get a useful result (e.g. searching for marr* gives back 750 pages of results ).

If you're in for a historical discussion, your topics could probably be suited for this forum. But seeing as how your topic ideas are not backed by canon, I (reluctantly) have to say that Pensieve Parlour is more likely to be the right place where to put them. The Lily-marrying-Snape thing might also be suited for Notable Magical Names, but once more the most likely place is PP.

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Dec 7 2008, 01:24 AM

Hi again, Mods. I hope I'm not breaking the double-posting rule with this post. True, I did post my last message less than 24 hours ago, but since that message was responded to already, I think I am correct in assuming I'm not required to just edit the last post? I'm really sorry if this post does qualify as double-posting, and I'm sorry for any inconvenience to you if you have to merge the two.

ANYWAY, here's my burning question:

Why are there no female centaurs? Not only do we never meet a female centaur, there is not even the mere mention of one, anywhere throughout the canon. I mean, there must be female centaurs for the species to survive...so where are they?

Linnea

Posted by: crucio_uk Dec 7 2008, 01:53 AM

how did the school cover it's running cost?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 7 2008, 06:23 AM

No problem, Linnea. This is NOT double-posting, since, as you said, the first post has been answered to.

The centauress (or lack thereof) might be suitable for Magical Theory. Give it a try.

***

The funding of Hogwarts has definitely some historical aspects, crucio_uk, so I'd like to encourage you to open a topic here in HoM.

Posted by: Hermione Ganger Dec 12 2008, 10:17 PM

In the order of the Phoenix, there were witches and wizards come to get harry from his aunt and uncle's house. Lupin told harry who everyone was and told harry who Dedalus Diggle was. Dedalus said," We've already meet." How? Who is he?

Posted by: mollywobbles23 Dec 13 2008, 02:21 AM

I had a thought while answering a question in another thread, but I'm not sure if it'd be good for its own thread. (Threads I start here tend to die quick, painful deaths). Maybe there's a thread already where it could be discussed, I don't know.

Anyway, my thought is this:

Would Trelawney have even gone into a trance and told DD the prophecy if Snape had not been standing at the door? It was his telling Voldemort the first part of it, after all, that made it come true.

Would DD have eventually defeated Voldemort? Or would Voldemort have won as a result of not going after Harry and setting his own fate in motion?

Posted by: maggieann Dec 13 2008, 03:28 AM

When Hagrid first takes Harry to the Diagon Alley, in the Leaky Cauldron, Dedalus Diggle introduces himself and shakes hands with Harry.

Posted by: Wendall Dec 13 2008, 04:09 AM

Harry met Diggle in the Leaky Cauldron in PS when Hagrid was taking him to Diagon Alley for the first time to get all his school stuff. He was one of the wizards in the pub that shook his hands.

Harry had seen him before this though, cos Diggle bowed to him once in a shop before Harry even knew he was a wizard.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 13 2008, 04:25 AM

Thank you for answering the question about Dedalus, maggieann.

*****

@mollywobbles23

We don't have many threads discussing the prophecy:
http://www.leakylounge.com/Prophecy-Eavesdroppers-t17513.html&view=getnewpost
http://www.leakylounge.com/Prophecy-t25306.html&view=getnewpost
There are two more http://www.leakylounge.com/Potters-Hiding-t27404.html&view=getnewpost and http://www.leakylounge.com/spys-Snape-Peter-t17079.html&view=getnewpost which are not directly addressing the prophecy, and of course you will find several references to the prophecy in our famous "The night the Potters died" (Parts http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=17058&view=findpost&p=474669, http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=44492&view=findpost&p=1202880, and http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=44492&view=findpost&p=1202880).
I daresay, however, that none of the threads mentioned above discusses the issue you brought up. So you should give it a try.

As for the "quick, painful deaths" - I am deeply sorry about this, but you shouldn't take this as an argument for not opening new topics.

Posted by: Wendall Dec 13 2008, 04:27 AM

Well I assume she would have. But then I'm not really sure what the alternative is that you're suggesting. Are you saying Trelawney waited to tell the prophecy until there was somebody listening that would help it come to fruition, or are you saying that there's some sort of fate at play that ensured the prophecy didn't come to Trelawney until Snape was there to overhear it?

She didn't seem to have any control or even any conscious knowledge of going into her prophetic trances, so I dont think she arranged it the way it happened.
And I dont think the fate thing really works, cos there are loads of prophecies in the department of mysteries that never got fulfilled so I dont see why fate would give this one a helping hand, even if fate does exist.

Without Snape telling Voldemort there are alot more options to consider. Voldemort may have gone after the Potters again anyway, he had been defied by them 3 times already after all. And Snape may have found out and things would have happened exactly as they did except without Voldemort having been influenced by a prophecy, but just by his usual evil. Dumbledore may have brought him down, he may have found out about his horcruxes through a spy or a turncoat like Regulus and destroyed them himself.
Who knows, Snape hearing the prophecy really did simplify matters in some ways.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 13 2008, 04:37 AM

mollywobbles23: Seeing as how your question has alredy attracted a reply, I strongly encourage you to open a new topic. If Wendall agrees, I will move their answer to the new topic, as soon as it is opened.

*points at moderator's hat*
I would like to ask all interested to refrain from answering to mollywobbles23's question in this thread. Please wait until our dear mollywobble23 has opened a new thread. And please, don't forget your ideas in the meantime.
See you there!

Posted by: potter2005 Dec 13 2008, 05:48 AM

As history suggests theres always someone willing to take over power so will it ever be over? will the wizarding world ever be safe? will they be a new dark lord?

are they any topics relating to this?

I'd do a search but its as much use as a chocolate fire guard

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 13 2008, 06:42 AM

Tricky!

I can't recall any discussion related to this, perhaps also because the question of whether there will be another dark lord, whether the wizarding community will be safe, etc. is not a topic which would fit into HoM. Although I do not like to do this, I'd recommend to propose this idea over at PtU.

Posted by: lirene Dec 13 2008, 11:27 AM

There is also a great poll in Notable Magical names titled http://www.leakylounge.com/Poll-Dark-Lord-t49682.html. It discusses who you feel will be the next Dark Lord and touches upon the safety of the Wizarding World

There is also an interesting thread titled http://www.leakylounge.com/DEs-accomplices-Voldem-t60432.html, which I encourage you to visit in the http://www.leakylounge.com/Post-DH-Predictions-Pred-f299.html forum.

Posted by: Daphne Blake Dec 13 2008, 11:31 AM

I'm quite posititive he can't but I want to check, could Draco speak Parselmouth?


Also Draco was reluctant to kill Dumbledore in HBP, why is that? Is it because he secretly respected Dumbledore? Liked him? Or actually, when it came down to it, couldn't become a murderer because of morals? Or something else?

Posted by: lirene Dec 13 2008, 01:00 PM

to the Leaky Lounge, Daphne Blake

Draco couldn't speak Parseltongue, nor is he a Parselmouth either. There's a great thread in http://www.leakylounge.com/Magic-Works-Magical-The-f90.html called: http://www.leakylounge.com/Parseltongue-learned-t36777.html I encourage you to read the fascinating posts and post your question about Draco there as well
This is a great suggestion for a thread Your thread idea doesn't belong in this forum since History of Magic discusses events that took place before book 1; however, your thread would be a good fit for the http://www.leakylounge.com/Post-DH-Predictions-Pred-f299.html forum, so I encourage you to open a thread there

Posted by: Daphne Blake Dec 13 2008, 02:32 PM

Aww thank you!! And I think I will open a topic! Thanks for the help!

Posted by: Hermione_19 Dec 13 2008, 10:29 PM

Does anyone know if Severus Snape was triple spying?

I've read and re-read the books and this question still pops into my head.
Is he a spy, a double spy or a triple spy?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Dec 14 2008, 04:43 AM

We know that Severus Snape was a double-agent, working for both Dumbledore and Voldemort.

To my knowledge there is no indication (or evidence for that matter) of a third party being involved. What made you feel there was? Could you please give us an exact reference, so we can check ourselves?

Posted by: WilliamBlood Dec 14 2008, 07:46 AM

You can't change the pass with a Time Turner, Professor McGonagall and Dumbledore knew about the Time Turner, no mention the other teachers did or needed to.

Hagrid speaks about them getting time turners but that doesn't mean that the Professor Know when a Child is using a Time Turner to do their studies.

To explain things more clearly, I'll use POA as the guide, even the movie helps with this so if you haven't read or seen it I can't believe you managed to find us here.

The first time Around in the movie Harry gets hit in the head with a stone, gets saved by a werewolf call and gets saved by James, his father.

the Second time through which is basically the first time but we see as the other Harry and Hermione, Hermione throws the rock into the room and hits harry in the head, Hermione calls werewolf lupin off of Harry and Harry saves Harry and Sirius from the Dementors.

These events over lap each other.

Just like when hermione pulled back Harry for wanting to go into the House, she was always meant to do it, because Harry never went into the house.

Buckbeak was free before Dumbledore even went into the hospital wing, Dumbledore knew the only way it could have happened was the time turner, Hermione being the only one with it knew that it was her and Harry who had to do the saving.

Only way being is that Harry, Ron and Hermione being the only ones who would have wanted to save Buckbeak, but never had him at any point in the first go through because he questioned Sirius about everything in the Tower.

So being as you can't undo anything that has already come to pass, using the Time Turner in a fashion that is unscientifically sound is impossible.

Professor McGonagall mentioned that people who meddled in time some times get themselves killed by themselves, but she never mentioned that the person ever learnt that before they did it which in fact leads them to the death they were trying to stop.

The only way you are able to do time travel to get what you want is only because you have already done it and you are just running through the motions of doing it.

The part about Lily and James being in hiding, it was basically until Voldemort had picked the person he was going to kill, it might have been until Harry was older and going to school. Lord Voldemort might have picked Nevelle instead.

But in essential it was until Lord Voldemrot had picked the person who would be his undoing.

You can say he was a triple spy meaning that he was spying on Dumbledore for Voldemort, but Voldemort knew that he was also being a spy for Dumbledore and he was feeding him information, but he was also on Dumbledore's side which makes the triple if you follow the logic.

Snape Spying on Dumbledore

Snape also Spying on Voldemort

Snape on Dumbledore side so he was against Lord Voldemort.

Draco doesn't know parseltongue, he has never spoken it so I wonder why you ask the question.

It takes a lot to actually kill someone, to preform the AV spells takes a lot of Hate to use, and you have to want them to really die, this is a lot to ask a 16 year old to do, like you get some kids that age shooting a gun and running in gangs and killing people, but have the time it is unexpected shootings and a gun is different then a wand you have to mean to do something with a wand you just don't wave it around.

i Believe that prophecy's are fates giving us a helping hand, just because some of the prophecy might not have come true, doesn't mean that they won't or at least haven't yet.

It was fated in Voldemort's downfall that Snape would over hear it but as Dumbledore said in HBP, if the pRophecy was never made and Harry was never chosen, he parents killed by Voldemort for the fun of it, would Harry let it go at that, I don't think so, Harry was picked because the fates knew that Harry would have it in him to take on each task set in front of him.


As Snape says in HBP, there will always be evil in the world, another Dark Lord to take the place or another, or even a Dark Lady. JKR only wanted to tell harry's tale, where he finished off the dark lord, in ten to twenty years or even less, there could be another dark lord for Albus Severus to defeat, or even James Potter, or some other wizard child.

There will always be someone willing to do anything and everything to gain power.

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Dec 14 2008, 11:25 AM

Hello again, Hannibal Granger! I've been mentally preparing myself to respond to your post in "A Different Tom Riddle!"

Anyway, Harry met Dedalus Diggle in one of the very first chapters of The Philosopher's Stone. I wish I could find the exact passage for you, but PS is the one book in the series that I can't find right now. I think it happens in the very first chapter. Harry recalls a day when he went out shopping with the Dursleys, and a funny-looking little man came up to him and bowed to him or waved to him or something, and then either went on his way or just mysteriously disappeared or something. That was Dedalus Diggle. Then when Harry goes to the Leaky Cauldron with Hagrid for the first time, he meets Diggle again, and this time Diggle explains who he is, and reminds him of the first time they met.

Linnea

Posted by: Alysaw Dec 14 2008, 11:52 AM

Page 30 paperback edition of SS:
"A tiny man in a violet top hat had bowed to him once while out shopping with Aunt Petunia and Dudley."

Page 69 of same edition"
"Delighted Mr. Potter, just can't tell you, Diggle's the name, Dedalus Diggle."
"I've seen you before!" said Harry, as Dedalus Diggle's top hat fell off in his excitement. "You bowed to me once in a shop."
"He remembers!" cried Dedalus Diggle, looking around at everyone. "Did you hear that? He remembers me!"

Posted by: Hermione Ganger Dec 23 2008, 05:00 PM

Ok so I have two questions. my 1st one is harry is a full blood right because both of his parents were witches?????????
then my 2nd one is The dark lord chose harry potter to kill becasue why??

Posted by: Sirius_Craic Dec 23 2008, 05:45 PM

Yes, technically Harry is full blood but some people would consider him less than full since his mother was muggle born. Ignore that. Go with what harrydavid tells you. Both he and roonwit have my utter respect because of their vast amount of Potter knowledge

And your second question has a whole thread for itself as its quite an interesting topic with varied reasons as to why Voldemort would chose Harry over Neville http://www.leakylounge.com/Choose-Harry-t43005.html

P.S Welcome to the board

Posted by: harrydavid Dec 23 2008, 05:47 PM

1) Harry is considered a half-blood. His father was a pure-blood wizard and his mother was Muggleborn.

2) We can only speculate as to why Voldemort chose Harry. Dumbledore says that he must have seen Harry as the greater threat. He also says that it is interesting that he chose the half-blood, like himself, rather than the full-blood, Neville. Apparently, Voldemort saw the similarities between himself and Harry and thought Harry was the greater threat.

Posted by: lirene Dec 23 2008, 06:18 PM

Hi Hermione Ganger

As to your first question, Sirius_Craic is correct in linking you to the http://www.leakylounge.com/Choose-Harry-t43005.html thread The discussions are fascinating, so please jump right in Harry was never considered to be pure blood since, as harrydavid points out, his father is a pure blood and Lily is Muggleborn.

As to your second question, another reason Harry may have been targeted by Voldemort was the prophecy itself and more specifically the first half; Snape only heard this part of the prophecy and relayed it to Voldemort: ""The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches... born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies..."

Harry was born one day later then Neville, on the 31st of July; so he is born closer so to speak to the time when the seventh month dies.

Posted by: Hermione Ganger Dec 23 2008, 07:51 PM

OK thanks for helping me with that. Merry christmas!!

I'm reading the half blood prince on chapter2 and I was wondering if Snape is still a death Eater??

Posted by: harrydavid Dec 23 2008, 11:50 PM

If you haven't finished reading the series, you might want to avoid the forums until you finish. You will find out all sorts of things that would spoil the reading. The very question you ask is one of the greatest mysteries and isn't resolved until the end of Deathly Hallows. Do you really want to know before you get to that point in the books?

Posted by: Hermione Ganger Dec 24 2008, 08:42 AM

HarryDavid, Thanks so much for not telling me and no I will just keep reading toanswer my own question. Thanks for not not telling me. Merry Christmas!

Posted by: SpiceQueen Dec 27 2008, 01:05 AM

I dont know if anyone has asked this already, but I have been dying to know.....what was the third thing that Hermione smelled in HPB in the potion that was in Slughorn's classroom?

Posted by: Alysaw Dec 27 2008, 09:17 AM

JKR said it was probably he smell of Ron's hair.Jess Mac: What was the third smell that hermione smelt in the amortentia potion in hbp (ie the particular essence of ron)

J.K. Rowling: I think it was his hair. Every individual has very distinctive-smelling hair, don't you find?

Posted by: lirene Dec 27 2008, 12:48 PM

Thanks for answering the question, Alysaw. SpiceQueen there is a great thread over in the Pensieve Parlor called http://www.leakylounge.com/Amortentia-t34218.html&st=230. Let us know what your three scents would be

Posted by: SpiceQueen Dec 31 2008, 01:17 AM

Oh wonderful! Thank you much!!!

Posted by: Ravenklaw Dec 31 2008, 11:25 AM

I have one question that I thought of earlier this morning. I'm not trying to be smart or anything like that, this is just curiosity.

Why is the HP Trivia thread in the Non-HP: The Leaky Cauldron forum? I would think that it would be in Memories of the HP Experience: The Pensieve Parlor. That's just my own speculation.

Posted by: lirene Dec 31 2008, 01:04 PM

That's a good question Ravenklaw The HP trivia thread is in the Butterbeer Banter forum because it's a trivia thread and technically trivia falls into BB territory. Also, we really liked the idea of having just one teeny tiny thread dedicated to Harry Potter as well; it was too fun to pass up

Posted by: Ravenklaw Jan 1 2009, 02:28 AM

Oh, okay! That makes sense.

I have another, slightly sillier question. Is there an award for starting the first topic of the new year? *hint hint, nudge nudge*

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 1 2009, 08:27 AM

... erm ... Let's see ... erm ... What about ... erm ... No, this won't ... erm ... erm ... Do you like chocolate?

'cause this is the prize ->

If you are the first to open a new topic, you may take it.


Cheers,

innkeeper_tom
HoM moderator

Posted by: Ravenklaw Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM

Thanks innkeeper tom!

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 2 2009, 03:37 PM

You're welcome!

Posted by: chloe squibbulus Jan 9 2009, 02:50 PM

What exactly is the potion in the basin in the cave that Dumbledore drinks? Are there any statements from Rowling on what this was?

Posted by: lirene Jan 9 2009, 03:06 PM

Thanks for the question, chloe I don't have an exact quote to provide regarding the potion in the cave right now, so hopefully one of our members will be able to help. However, we have a thread in this forum called http://www.leakylounge.com/Dumbledore-s-Agony-emer-t48837.html that I encourage you to visit. It has great discussions, and you may find some of your questions answered there as well

Posted by: chloe squibbulus Jan 9 2009, 03:12 PM

Thanks so much lirene! I have always wanted to know...I think that's always been my #1 biggest unanswered question. Of course it certainly may have been answered and I just don't know about it. But that has always been a special wish of mine to find out what that really was. Of course, I have my theories, and one of them is that it is not really green, it is only reflecting the green of the spell/charm/enchantment that is on the basin.

I suspect the potion is actually clear and is part Veritaserum and part Draught of Living Death...and perhaps part something else.

Posted by: chloe squibbulus Jan 9 2009, 06:28 PM

Actually, while I am asking questions I have one more. Do we know exactly how Harry's blood protection works? It is my understanding that Lily's protection is what keeps Harry from dying in the forest. Is it the same protection that saved Harry the first time? Or was that protection just a one-time deal? When Voldemort tried to AK Harry in the forest is it the original 'sacrifice' protection from Lily that saves him? Or is it the fact that as long as there is a bit of Harry's blood - thus Harry and Lily's protection - in Voldemort, then the blood in Voldemort acts like a sort of Horcrux for Harry and Harry can't die until Voldemort is killed. Or is it both?

I guess it seems like its both. It just means that now Voldemort can't kill Harry (but then, could he ever??? unless it was just a one time deal it would seem that he couldn't). But with the blood-tether...in order to kill Harry now, Voldemort has to kill himself first (which is of course impossible). I guess only someone else can kill Harry...so its rather ironic that Voldemort always insists on everyone leaving Harry for him to kill. In a sense, that is probably a good part of why he isn't killed. If Voldemort knew, he could just have had his cronies kill Harry. But then why does the blood-tether make it any different than before unless the protection is only one time? But that isn't really what Dumbledore tells him in KC.

And actually, the way it is expained in KC is:
"'He took my blood,' said Harry
'Precisely! said Dumbledore. 'He took your blood and rebuilt his living body with it! Your blood in his veins, Harry, Lily's protection inside both of you!'
'I live...while he lives? But I thought...I thought it was the other way round! I thought we both had to die? Or is it the same thing?'"

Its just rather confusing unless the protection is only good for one time. Do we know that though? And this passage from KC really implies that the protection is still active until Voldemort dies (but only at his own hand?) Or does this imply that Harry can't be killed by anyone while Voldemort lives? It must not be, because canon also says that Lily's protection is only against Voldemort...if I am remembering it correctly.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 9 2009, 07:13 PM

This is my turn to answer, chloe.
There is canon evidence, from which we could deduct the functioning of the protection Lily gave to her son. I'm referring to the King's Cross chapter of DH, where DD tells Harry:

I surely don't want to lure you away from HoM, but we have a relatively new thread in Magical Theory, discussing http://www.leakylounge.com/Lily-s-Protection-t66020.html, which you may find interesting.

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: chloe squibbulus Jan 9 2009, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the link and the citation. I am still confused though about whether or not Lily's original protection should still be active. What is the advantage for the tether if he is already still protected by Lily's sacrifice? Is it actually that no one else can kill him until Voldemort is also dead?

Posted by: wheezy's_gal Jan 10 2009, 07:17 AM

Erm..... whatever happened to the JKR vs. Lexicon case?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 10 2009, 10:41 AM

(my emphasis)
This is probably not fully correct. Harry is not immortal, he will eventually die of age, he might get killed in an accident, or he might be shot/stabbed/you-name-it. The protection works only against curses from Voldemort - at least that's how I understand it. Insofar it a specific, dedicated protection. Yet you are right (that's what we've seen in DH): as long as Voldemort (resurrected using Harry's blood) lives, Harry cannot be AK'ed by Voldemort.

*****


The shortest answer would be this:


innkeeper_tom

Posted by: HPNAIV Jan 10 2009, 01:27 PM

Okay, this has ALWAYS bothered me. I don't know if it's just me and my stupidity or something, but a part in The Prince's Tale confused me. Dumbledore asks Snape if he has ever grown to care for "the boy" a.ka. Harry at all. Snape says "For him? Expecto Patronum!" Then Dumbledore says "After all this time?" Snape: "Always."

Someone please explain that to me. Why did Dumbledore say "After all this time?" Why did Snape show his Patronus? Was it to prove that he loved Lily? I know doe is the female version of a stag (right? o.O), but why would he show his Patronus when it has nothing to do with Harry? Is it because he knows how to love, and that's why he showed a Patronus to Dumbledore? Oh dear, someone explain this to me!

Posted by: chloe squibbulus Jan 10 2009, 01:48 PM

Thanks innkeeper_tom! I wasn't really trying to suggest that Harry was immortal, only wondering whether the possible advantage might be that he was invulnerable to being killed/murdered by people other than Voldemort. But the link you provided refreshed my memory on part of the dilemma...the part about Lily's protection expiring at his 17th birthday - I was forgetting that. I was just puzzling over why (if Lily's protection had never expired) there was any advantage to having a blood-tether. Now that I have got it all sorted out, I think that he was just protected from Voldemort (although there are some slightly vague aspects to how the protection expires for Harry in his own blood but not the protection for him that remains in Voldemort through the Harry's blood. But I will try to sort that out in that thread you gave me).

Posted by: lirene Jan 10 2009, 02:08 PM

Dumbledore's comment to Snape, "after all this time" is simply asking Snape if in fact he's loved Lily all this time, and for so many years. As for his Patronus, Patronuses are unique to every witch and wizard, so since the love of Snape's life was Lily, his Patronus took on the doe form, and not simply because he was using it as a way to get Harry's attention.

There is also an interesting thread in this forum called http://www.leakylounge.com/Silver-DoeReally-t57309.html that may answer some of your questions, and the posts are very insightful

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Jan 14 2009, 09:11 PM

Here's one that's always been lurking in the back of my mind:

In PS/SS, when the teachers burst in on the Trio and the troll in the bathroom, why does Hermione lie? She says it was all her fault, because she went looking for the troll, thinking she could handle it. Wouldn't it be just as effective, and far less troublesome for her (she lost 5 points for it, not to mention she came off looking like a total idiot), to just tell the truth? That she was crying in the bathroom, and Ron and Harry came to look for her? She doesn't have to mention that Ron was the reason she was crying, if that's what she's worried about the teachers finding out about. She could just say, "Ron and Harry overheard someone at the Gryffindor table say I was crying in the bathroom," and leave it at that.

So, why does she lie?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 15 2009, 04:57 AM

Good question, Linnea!

Personally, I would assume that Hermione's motivation was being sick of being perceived as the "unbearable know-it-all". What she actually does is to mock herself, when she is behaving exactly as an overly self-confident, unbearable know-it-all would do. This, however, shows that she actually has a sense of humour, which makes her "nomal", companionable.

This thread, however is not intended for general discussions, so I would recommend to perform a search in GWE (and perhaps in NMN) to check if this topic has been discussed. You might find material to think about, and perhaps even worth of resuscitating an old thread. If there's nothing, you shoud think about opening a new topic, in either case I will happily join the discussion.

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: potter2005 Jan 18 2009, 05:54 PM

If you went through a trap door somewhere in the middle of the third floor, wouldn't you just end up somewhere on the 2nd floor

when Aberforth was convicted of performing inappropriate charms on goats, did he really do it or was he covering up for something his sister did?

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Jan 18 2009, 08:37 PM

Not necessarily- it's Hogwarts, after all. This is a castle that has moving staircases, a room that appears when you think about it (and provides what you need), and portraits that walk and talk.

That's a good question. But I think he probably did it. After all, his Patronus is a goat, so he obviously quite likes them!

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jan 19 2009, 01:42 AM

Hi potter2005!

Your first question would be appropriate for Magical Theory, if you are interested to discuss it further. I ran a quick search there, only to find out that this question has not yet been discussed.

Concerning your question about Aberforth, I'd like to mention that we have two older threads (http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=54874&view=findpost&p=1413058 and http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=23206&view=findpost&p=667026), which might give some insight about Dumbledore's brother.

And before I forget: Thanks to Bookworm_Weasley for your post!

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Feb 7 2009, 03:46 PM

I'm not totally sure if this question belongs in HoM, either (but it definitely is closer to it than the Hermione one -- thanks for your answer and your guidance, BTW! I haven't yet gotten around to working on it yet, but I'm keeping it in mind!) Anyway:

Exactly how big is Hogwarts School? I always thought there were approximately 200 students in each House, 800 total. Then later I found out (I think from reading this site, but I can't remember where) that J.K. said the entire school has 240 students.

But now that I've recently reread PoA, I remember why I thought there were 200 students per House. Canon says so very plainly! "Three quarters of the crowd were wearing scarlet rosettes, waving scarlet flags with the Gryffindor lion on them, or brandishing banners with slogans like 'GO GRYFFINDOR!' and 'LIONS FOR THE CUP!' Behind the Slytherin goal posts, however, two hundred people were wearing green: the silver serpent of Slytherin glittered on their flags, and Professor Snape sat in the very front row, wearing green like everyone else, and a very grim smile," (USA edition, p305).

Now, maybe some alumni, and possibly even parents who live close enough (didn't Lucius Malfoy come to one of the school Quidditch matches?), would add to the number of people in the crowd. But there couldn't be that many of them! There certainly wouldn't be more visitors than students, which would have to be the case if we go by the figure 240 for the entire student body. 240 means 60 per House, which would mean each House had 140 visiting supporters! That's just impossible.

So, which is it? 240 students, or 800? Or some other number? I don't see how it could be any other number than 800, though, when it says 800 pretty plainly in that quotation.

I know J.K. is bad at math, but she can't be that bad...

Linnea

Posted by: lirene Feb 7 2009, 05:16 PM

Linnea, this is exactly the thread for such questions Exactly how many students are at Hogwarts is something that has been debated more than once lol. There is an excellent thread over in the Great Wizarding Events forum called http://www.leakylounge.com/240-Students-Hogwarts-t52904.html that discusses the very same premise that you've brought up here. I encourage you to read the wonderful posts and jump right in with your own theories.

As for Rowling's being bad at math, she can't be perfect at everything lol

Posted by: Alysaw Feb 15 2009, 10:57 AM

I'm not sure if this question belongs here and I seem to remember a discussion about it but can't find it.
On the back cover of OotP who is the third person with Mad Eye and Tonks? I thought of it again because my young nephew just emailed me and asked.

Posted by: muggle..andproudofit Feb 15 2009, 12:56 PM

I have one if dumbldors mother stayed home what did his dad do? :paw:
:Raven flag:

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Feb 15 2009, 01:30 PM

... erm ... mind telling us which edition you're referring to? Mine (UK hardcover) shows the "Fountain of Magical Brethren". But perhaps the http://www.leakylounge.com/HP-Book-Cover-Art-t73.html will help ...


Sounds good. Give it a try and open a new topic.

Posted by: Alysaw Feb 15 2009, 02:15 PM

The picture of Tonks, Mad Eye and the mystery wizard is on both the back of the hard cover and the paperback American editions. I'll check out the Cover Art thread too.

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Feb 25 2009, 09:49 PM

This has been bothering me for a really long time.

What on earth is the point of the Alohamora spell? It seems to be as well-known and common a spell as Expelliarmus is. Everybody in the series seems to know about it, anyway. So what on earth is the point of locking a door, if anybody who knows Alohamora (meaning, EVERYBODY) can open it?

The Muggle equivalent of this would be carefully locking your front door as you left the house, and then hanging the key from the doorknob. Or, password-protecting your computer, and then writing the password on a Post-It and sticking it to the computer's monitor.

It just seems so stupid. What's the point?

P.S. I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I tried looking in "How Magic Works," but I didn't see a questions thread.

Posted by: harrydavid Feb 26 2009, 12:16 AM

This has always been one of my problems, too. Especially in the Battle at the Ministry. At one point the kids are running up and down sealing the doors with Colloportus, and all the Death Eaters have to do is use Alohamora to undo their spells. What was the point. They would have done better to run. What is even more surprising is that occasionally, it worked and the DEs couldn't get in. What! Were they too stupid to know Alohamora. Since Bella was at one of these I doubt it was that but I don't know.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Feb 26 2009, 10:23 AM

Hmmm. Tricky.

Since I am moderating MT as well, I take your comment about the non-existent question thread there as a suggestion, Linnea, and consequently will discuss opening such a thread with my fellow mods.

As for the Alohomora: A fairly basic spell, useful when you've forgotten the keys, which are used to keep out Muggles, of course. For anyone having magical abilities conventionally locking the door simply wouldn't do.

That's where the Colloportus comes in handy. First of all, it could well do more than the magical equivalent of turning the key. Even if it doesn't do more, in the context mentioned by harrydavid it works like the archetypical chair jammed under the doorknob - an obstacle, definitely not unsurmountable, but still buying you time.
We also know that some doors (I'm thinking of Dreadolores's office) cannot simply be opened by whispering "Alohomora!".

If you want to discuss this futher, I'd strongly recommend opening a topic in MT.

innkeeper_tom
LL mod

Posted by: the_boy_who_lived Feb 26 2009, 01:07 PM

I always thought it was Lupin

Posted by: Aleddodc Feb 27 2009, 10:11 AM

Anybody know if Professors MaGonagal, Sprout, Flitwick or Slughorn were married or had ever been married????

It seems that to be a professor at Hogwarts means that you must remain single the only married professor we ever hear about is Neville!
Cheers
Aled

Posted by: lirene Feb 27 2009, 12:18 PM

I don't seem to remember whether the teachers you mention are single, married, divorced, etc., and I don't recall it ever mentioned in canon. I performed a search of the forum, and found several threads that discuss the premise you've brought forth:

http://www.leakylounge.com/Hogwarts-staff-celibate-t58649.html

http://www.leakylounge.com/Lack-offspring-spouses-t36087.html

http://www.leakylounge.com/Wondered-Teachers-L-t37246.html

Several of the threads are a bit older, but they have great discussions, so I encourage you to visit them, and jump right into the discussions. If I happen to find more recent topics, I'll post them here

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Mar 4 2009, 02:36 AM

Interesting question, Linnea.
We have discussed this behind the scenes, wondering what to answer. Lirene also did a search, but to no avail. So we're in a bit of trouble here.
Timewise, your topic is HoM-territory, since the question "Where do we think the books that covered the walls of Spinner's End came from?" most likely goes back before Baby-Harry's defeat of Voldemort. There is, however, no substantial canon backing, IOW it is speculative -- we'd recommend therefore opening a thread in PtU.

innkeeper_tom

Posted by: sTiTcH Mar 5 2009, 03:31 PM

i doubt much of the contents of snapes house were there by his own doing, i think most of it was just how his parents left it. he doesnt seem to be much for decorating and all the "dark rooms" we always see accociated with him were largely due to the enviornment at the time. his house was dark because he kept the drapes closed and the contents were very old and dusty. the office was dark because it was in the dungeon and creepy because he was a potions teacher and kept his tools where they could easily get to them. the DADA room was the same.. those pictures were tools for the lessons. the books in his house, however, i bet some of them he bought himself. wizards dont have TV and he was very much a "nerd", so im sure his one recreation was reading. and i'll bet they were a mixture of novels and instructional books.

despite him feeling hogwarts was his home, im sure he had to get out of there some time, and he didnt seem to have much of a social life. i dont doubt spinners end was a summer retreat for him. he couldnt let the place TOTALLY fall apart because if something were to happen at hogwarts he'd be homeless. im sure the neglect was because he spent most of the year at hogwarts, and had no other family to take care of it.


and to SIDISH_BLACK6, im not sure snape even had a will, seeing as he had no family or friends to leave it to. if he did, it may have been in dumbledores possetion, which would have proved pointless anyway after the whole death plan. and even if he LIKED harry, he knew/thought harry would be dieing too, so what would be the point there?

as to luna, she married...DEAN i think, if i remember correctly, and she became an explorer.

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Mar 6 2009, 03:13 PM

Actually, she married Rolf Scamander (the great grandson of Newt Scamander, the author of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them) and they were both naturalists.

Posted by: lirene Mar 7 2009, 10:11 AM

Thanks for clarifying Bookworn_Weasley For those of you who would like to know what eventually happened to the DA members, there is a thread over in Predicting the Unpredictable called http://www.leakylounge.com/happened-rest-DA-t62615.html There are some really great discussions going on there, so I encourage you to jump right in and join the discussions!

Posted by: sTiTcH Mar 8 2009, 04:45 AM

im sorry if this has been asked, or if everyone already knows except me... but is there a thread or proper listing of all the characters wand types(wood and core), bogarts and patronuses?
(im particularly curious about snapes and the rest of the teachers)

Posted by: Wendall Mar 8 2009, 11:24 AM

I dunno if there are any threads on it, but there's a good site called "hp-lexicon.org" that has information on pretty much everything in the books, including details on every wizard.

Posted by: sTiTcH Mar 8 2009, 11:58 AM

..isnt lexicon the site that got sued by jo and WB? lol

Posted by: lirene Mar 8 2009, 12:30 PM

Thanks so much for responding, Wendall. I've used the Lexicon in the past to look for useful HP information.

sTiTcH, I did a search on Leaky (and I'm assuming you're asking about our site) and I couldn't find a similar topic that discusses your question about teachers' wands, boggarts and patronuses, and in particular Snape's. We don't have listings either because Leaky is a discussion forum and we shy away from having threads dedicated to lists. After discussing this with Moose_Starr, we encourage you to open a thread that discusses your premise in the http://www.leakylounge.com/Magic-Works-Magical-The-f90.html forum

There is a thread over in the Pensieve Parlor that may interest you. It discusses what your own wand, patronus, boggart and house would be http://www.leakylounge.com/Wand-animegus-potronus-t58213.html.

If you would like to discuss what Dumbledore's original wand was, there is a thread in HoM http://www.leakylounge.com/Poll-Dumbledore-s-wan-t59790.html&hl=Dumbledore+++wand that has some really great discussions.


The Lexicon website wasn't sued by Rowling and WB There is an entire archived forum http://www.leakylounge.com/WB-JKR-vs-RDR-Thread-Arc-f352.html where you can read all about the lawsuit, since this thread, nor this forum is the proper venue for such discussions.

Posted by: Mrs_Linnea_Snape Mar 13 2009, 04:20 PM

Once again, I really hope that this is the right place to ask this question, and I'm very sorry if it is not...

What's the deal with Harry's grandparents? Obviously, they are absent because their presence would be inconvenient to the plot. But what are the ostensible, fictional reasons for their absence?

There seems to be some sort of explanation for the absence of Harry's paternal grandparents: they were old, and presumably died sometime before Harry's eleventh birthday. But, unless I am missing something, that's not much of an explanation. If they died before Harry was born, then why isn't there anything in the books about James and Lily's reaction to their deaths? It seems like a huge thing to leave out. I would think there would be some mention of it, like, for example, Lupin saying, "James and Lily weren't even able to attend the funeral service for James' parents, because they were already in hiding from LV. This devastated James, and he couldn't forgive himself for it."

But maybe they didn't die before Harry was born. Maybe they died after James and Lily died. But then, why didn't they take Harry in? Surely they would be the first choice, before the Dursleys. Maybe they were just too old? But still, why didn't they ever try to visit Harry, or at least send him a birthday card or something?

I guess they must have died before Harry was born, because otherwise, the magical protection Harry had would be cast over their house, not the Dursleys' house? Since they were Harry's most immediate relatives?

And what of Lily's parents? Did J.K. ever mention anything about them, at all? It seems -- for lack of a better word -- unacceptable, just bad writing all around, to not even bother to come up with an explanation for their absence.

I tried searching through the Lexicon, and all I could find was this:

"Very little information is given about this side of the family. http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/harry.html saw a grandfather among the various relations in the http://www.hp-lexicon.org/magic/devices/devices-m.html#Mirror_of_Erised, but we haven't been given any more than that. It would seem that all the Potter family were wizards, and that they're all dead (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/books/ps/rg-ps12.html). JKR has told us that there was nothing sinister about the deaths of http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/harry.html's Potter grandparents (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/sources/site_sources.html#TLC). Harry's grandfather Potter was in Gryffindor, like his son and grandson (DH34)."

So, I guess that's my answer: we just don't know. But I was wondering what other people thought? Any brilliant ideas about what happened to the 4 of them?

Linnea

Posted by: lirene Mar 13 2009, 04:29 PM

Linnea

This is exactly the right place to ask your question We have a wonderful thread here in HoM that discusses everything having to do with Harry's grandparents called: http://www.leakylounge.com/happened-Harry-s-grandp-t59203.html

I encourage you to read the wonderful posts there And I look forward to your participation as well

Posted by: kath Mar 25 2009, 06:26 AM

I'm sure this has been asked before - but if Dumbledore's not a Parsletongue, why didn't he ask harry exactly what was said at the Gaunt house in his penseive?
Sure Dumbledore could've guessed the general gist of the conversation, but wouldn't it be wise to get Harry to do a quick re-cap , in case something important about Voldemort / possible horxcuxes was said??? wouldn't it be clever to understand that scene as clearly as possible???
Just a thought . . .

Posted by: Wendall Mar 25 2009, 09:28 AM

Dumbledore had learnt to understand parseltongue. He couldn't speak it though. So he could understand everything that was said.

Posted by: Unicornhair Mar 25 2009, 06:22 PM

Here is a question: What exactly was the reason for or point of the first war? Isn't it spoken of as "Voldemort's rise to power" - power over what? To do what? Also, if so many wizards and witches were being killed at the hand of DE's and V, what would that accomplish, except the near-extinction of wizardingkind? Essentially, what was V's aim before the prophecy and the failed AK of Harry?

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Mar 25 2009, 06:54 PM

I assume it was the same as his aim after he regained his body (without the part about killing Harry, obviously). He wanted wizards in their "rightful place", in charge of the Muggles. It's called his rise to power because he wanted power over the world, basically. He wanted power over the Muggles, and I assume he wanted to lead the magical community to get that power.

Posted by: Moose_Starr Mar 25 2009, 06:58 PM

Unicornhair and Bookworm_Weasley, it's an interesting question to ponder what LVs aims and intentions were during the first war. There is a http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=66248&view=findpost&p=1722866 thread, which addresses in part some of the points made here.
You may be interested to read some of the posts and, of course please feel free to jump in and join the discussion there.

Posted by: IcklEshAIrAkIns May 1 2009, 08:31 AM

Posted by: xesolor May 24 2009, 07:24 AM

Hehe Dumbledore might have been able to understand Parseltongue but I don't think so. Previously Dumbledore mentioned few witch / wizards throughout history can speak and understand parseltongue, so my guess is understanding parseltongue must imply you can speak it first and vice versa.

Harry only understood Parseltongue through the bit of Voldemort's soul blasted into his body. As far as I'm aware there's no other way of learning Parseltongue unless you're deeply immersed in the Dark Arts, or a direct descendant of Salazar Slytherin, and Dumbledore is neither.

Although the bit about why Dumbledore didn't ask Harry what it meant is weird ...

Posted by: Rinzy May 24 2009, 09:06 AM

I know that there are threads on the forum that address whether DD is a Parselmouth or not, but I was having difficulty finding them.

I believe that JK Rowling has addressed this before but the only quote I could find is this one from the MuggleNet.com webchat:

QUOTE

So from what I can tell, DD was able to understand Parseltongue, but I don't think he could speak it.

Posted by: lirene May 24 2009, 10:40 AM

You are quite right, Rinzy

We have our very own thread here in HoM that discusses whether Dumbledore could speak Parseltongue called http://www.leakylounge.com/Dumbledore-Speak-Parselt-t56479.html&hl=parseltongue

Parseltongue is discussed in other forums as well. http://www.leakylounge.com/DD-Understand-Parselton-t25427.html&hl=parseltongue can be found over in the http://www.leakylounge.com/General-Discussion-Great-f31.html forum. There's a great thread in http://www.leakylounge.com/Magic-Works-Magical-The-f90.html called: http://www.leakylounge.com/Parseltongue-learned-t36777.html. http://www.leakylounge.com/Parseltongue-Unleashed-t55200.html&hl=parseltongue can be found over in the Obscurus Books forum.

I encourage all of you to visit these topics and I look forward to the ensuing discussions

lirene
LL Moderator

Posted by: amyriddle93 Jun 2 2009, 01:39 PM

what do witch and wizard couples do for contraception?? I've always wanted to know that

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jun 3 2009, 12:43 AM

Hmmm.

I ran a search in the F&B forums and found that contraception was addressed as part of "http://www.leakylounge.com/Sex-Education-Hogwarts-t65712.html" in our Obscurus Books forum. I'd recommend to join the discussion there.

Posted by: Vampirella Jun 3 2009, 04:35 AM

I want to know, what in the world is the ''GIANT SQUID'' i never got a hold of it. Is it like a big black rock in the botttom of the black lake or what?

Posted by: Alysaw Jun 3 2009, 07:45 AM

The Giant Squid is an actual squid who lives in the lake and is friendly to the students. He saved Dennis Creevy when he fell in the lake by lifting him back into the boat with one of his tentacles.

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Jun 22 2009, 10:35 AM

The question about Tonks' metamorphmagical abilities, and the possibility of trumping out natural and/or magical beauty has been moved to Magical Theory.

Please http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=69074&view=findpost&p=1793244 there.

Posted by: midzy Aug 30 2009, 09:39 PM

i was just wondering about the TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT and Harry being the winner. i mean, in the end they found out that Harry didn't put his name in the goblet of fire thus making him unwilling to join the tournament (i hope i made sense) and it was in fact a way to lure harry to voldermort, is he still the official winner or the tournament lost its bearing after those events?

Posted by: roonwit Aug 31 2009, 12:49 PM

That is presumably the decision of the judging panel, and as they were happy to let Harry participate I don't think it matters that Harry was entered by someone else. Also Harry was recognized as winner because he was presented with the prize money by one of the judges, and Harry made no secret of Voldemort's meddling so I think he would remain the official winner.

Posted by: midzy Sep 1 2009, 11:49 PM

i was also wondering - and i'm not sure if this is where i should be asking this (pardon me) - if hermione also had a hard time finishing off the hufflepuff cup the same way as ron? was she tortured as well like ron? if she has, what do you think would voldermort say against her that would've been agonizing to her?

Posted by: innkeeper_tom Sep 2 2009, 05:40 AM

Interesting question, midzy, but I'm afraid this discussion is way off the scope of HoM, since it relates to events covered in Deathly Hallows.
It is, however, perfectly suited for our forum "Predicting the Unpredictable", so you should probably publish your question in PtU's thread "http://www.leakylounge.com/Biggest-Unanswered-Quest-t62627.html&view=getlastpost".

Posted by: midzy Sep 2 2009, 10:31 PM

sorry about that, tom. thanks for the help. :smack:

Posted by: sairah Sep 9 2009, 01:02 AM

I feel like such a noob for asking this [and im not! ive been reading these books since I was in the third grade!]
But...did Dumbledore go to Hogwarts??I'm pretty sure he did, but I can't for the life of me remember what House he was sorted in!?
So please, can someone answer this for me.

Posted by: Bookworm_Weasley Sep 9 2009, 01:46 AM

He did indeed go to Hogwarts, and I'm pretty sure that Hermione tells us at some point during PS that he was in Gryffindor. Other evidence that he is a Gryffindor is that he used Gryffindor's sword to bust open the Gaunt's Ring. I think only a Gryffindor can wield the sword, although- of course- non Gryffindors can hold it.

Posted by: Moose_Starr Sep 12 2009, 11:08 AM

There is a http://www.leakylounge.com/house-dumbledore-in-t68534.html thread. You might be interested to read the theories and thoughts there, and of course please feel free to join the discussion.

Posted by: sairah Sep 12 2009, 06:32 PM

oh, thanks!
Im glad other people were wondering about this question as well.
-goes to read thread-

Posted by: ginevrapotter07 Oct 2 2009, 09:16 PM

I must've missed something when I asked myself this question.

"There he turned its pages, searching, until he finally found, at the front of the book, the date that it had been published. It was nearly fifty years old. Neither his father, nor his father's friends, had been at Hogwarts fifty years ago." -HBP, about the Advanced Potions Book.

Snape was in the same year as his father, so if Snape owned that book, it couldn't be fifty years old, could it?

I feel stupid, can someone please answer me? Please!

Posted by: harrydavid Oct 2 2009, 09:34 PM

The best explanation I have seen was that it probably belonged to his mother and was a hand-me-down. She would have been at Hogwarts about that time.

Posted by: ginevrapotter07 Oct 2 2009, 09:58 PM

Oh, thanks!;)