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[18:55] *** Topic is: Ronald Weasley - Zero or Hero?
[18:55] *** Topic set by Aislinn [Sun Apr 9 13:10:46 2006]
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[18:59] <Aislinn> Hi Maria!
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[18:59] <Expelliarmas> how are you? will have to leave at about 8:15 or so to teach the first night of class here at the college
[18:59] <futureweasley> hi everyone!
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[19:00] <Aislinn> OK, that's cool
[19:00] <Aislinn> hi stewie, angel
[19:00] <Angelyka13> hello all
[19:00] <miss_danielle> hey everyone
[19:01] <Aislinn> how is everyone tonight?
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[19:01] <Angelyka13> if someone removes one of your posts arent you supposed to be notified?
[19:01] <stewiegryf> pretty good
[19:01] <futureweasley> hi aquamarine!
[19:02] <Aquamarine> Hey!
[19:02] <Aislinn> sometimes they are made temporarily invisible, while a mod. is handling it
[19:02] <Aislinn> did you lose one of yours, angel?
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[19:02] <Islwyn13> Hey, all smile
[19:02] <Angelyka13> yeah today is not a good day for me and leaky
[19:02] <futureweasley> Hi Islwyn!
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[19:02] <futureweasley> oh, no Angelyka!
[19:02] <Islwyn13> Hi, Future!
[19:02] <futureweasley> hi harryfreak!
[19:02] <Aquamarine> hey Harryfreak
[19:02] <Islwyn13> Heya, Harryfreak!
[19:02] <Aquamarine> hey , how do i get color?
[19:03] <harryfreak359> hey MJ!
[19:03] <harryfreak359> hey Isl!
[19:03] <Aislinn> over on the right, there are arrows <<
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[19:03] <Aquamarine> thanks!
[19:03] <Aislinn> click on them, and pick a color
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[19:03] <Aquamarine> Much better1
[19:03] <harryfreak359> I totally almost forgot this chat...
[19:03] <Aquamarine> yep, i was doing homework
[19:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> brb
[19:04] <Islwyn13> Oh, cool!
[19:04] <Angelyka13> i've been waiting for it since last week!
[19:04] <Aquamarine> LOL
[19:04] <Islwyn13> I didn't know that was there, either!
[19:04] <Islwyn13> Oh, the POWER!
[19:04] <harryfreak359> LOL
[19:04] <Aquamarine> hehe tongue
[19:05] <harryfreak359> so how's everyone's day?
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[19:05] <gryffindelle> hi
[19:05] <futureweasley> I'm GREAT
[19:05] <harryfreak359> helloe
[19:05] <Islwyn13> headache sad
[19:05] <harryfreak359> hello*
[19:05] <futureweasley> B+ in my last class!
[19:05] <Angelyka13> ever have a day you just shouldnt have gotten out of bed?
[19:05] <Islwyn13> Heya, Gryff!
[19:05] <gryffindelle> how are you all?
[19:05] <Islwyn13> excellent, Future!
[19:05] <harryfreak359> oh that is too bad Isl,
[19:05] <Islwyn13> do you want to be called future, or FW, or what?
[19:05] <futureweasley> I'm so happy!
[19:05] <harryfreak359> good for you Future!
[19:05] <Islwyn13> will "Hey, you!" do?
[19:05] <Islwyn13> :)
[19:05] <gryffindelle> congrats
[19:06] <futureweasley> future, FW, MJ...whatever works!
[19:06] <Islwyn13> kk smile
[19:06] <Expelliarmas> congrats on your B+
[19:06] <futureweasley> thank you...I was freaking out
[19:06] <Islwyn13> be back in a jif
[19:06] <Expelliarmas> Angelyka13, with any luck your night will be better than your day
[19:06] <futureweasley> excellent insite, Expel
[19:07] <Angelyka13> ah... i just was suppossed to have a huge interview today.. i was all prepped and it got postponed
[19:07] <Aislinn> boo!
[19:07] <miss_danielle> oh I hate when stuff like that happens
[19:07] <Aislinn> that's frustrating
[19:07] <futureweasley> I hate when that happens!! Hopefully it will be worth the wait
[19:07] <gryffindelle> oh no!!
[19:07] <harryfreak359> that is too bad
[19:07] <Angelyka13> yeah i hope so... it will be a huge opportunity
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[19:07] <Aquamarine> that stinks!
[19:08] <futureweasley> hi Pam!
[19:08] <PolythenePam> Hi
[19:08] <Aquamarine> *you can call me aqua... its much shorter smile
[19:08] <Aislinn> lol
[19:08] <miss_danielle> don't worry, if you were all prepped for today, you'll still be all prepped when it does happen
[19:08] <Aquamarine> definetly
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[19:08] <Angelyka13> yeah problem is my job is sooo high school mentality.. and business casual so me dressed up creates talk
[19:08] <gryffindelle> hi pam
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[19:09] <Aquamarine> Welcome back!
[19:09] <Aislinn> ginbot!
[19:09] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> HI!
[19:09] <futureweasley> hi GFAB
[19:09] <gryffindelle> hi
[19:09] <harryfreak359> hey GFAB
[19:09] <gryffindelle> gfab
[19:09] <futureweasley> thanks...I think I have to freeze at least once per chat
[19:09] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi Ais, F/W, Gryff, and everyone!
[19:10] <gryffindelle> and fw
[19:10] <futureweasley> hey gryff!
[19:10] <futureweasley> I'm so glad to see everyone! YAY for WWW!
[19:10] <Aislinn> biggrin
[19:10] <Aislinn> its very fitting that Ron won the poll tonight, since we discussed Hermione last week
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[19:11] <futureweasley> that was my thinking, too!
[19:11] <Aislinn> Hi, Kristine!
[19:11] <stewiegryf> almost like their "entwined" wink
[19:11] <Kristine> Hi there! smile
[19:11] <Aislinn> lol
[19:11] <miss_danielle> haha
[19:11] <harryfreak359> yes... I like character discussions
[19:11] <gryffindelle> lol
[19:11] <futureweasley> Last weeks chat rocked
[19:11] <Angelyka13> hah
[19:11] <Aislinn> me too harryfreak
[19:11] <futureweasley> I love character analysis
[19:11] <gryffindelle> I missed it, I was so upset
[19:11] <Aquamarine> me too!
[19:11] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Bah - brb again!
[19:11] <Aquamarine> I always miss the chats *tear*
[19:11] <futureweasley> you can read the transcripts if you missed it...
[19:11] <miss_danielle> i missed last weeks, i was asleep as i had an early start on Thursday.
[19:12] <gryffindelle> i know
[19:12] <futureweasley> ok, just checkin
[19:12] <Aquamarine> ron...
[19:12] <futureweasley> wink
[19:13] <Kristine> So...
[19:13] <futureweasley> we are going to start in a couple of minutes
[19:13] <Kristine> oh lol. :P I thought you guys were starting already hehe.
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[19:15] <futureweasley> Ron Weasley has been a staple in the fight against Voldemort and in Harry Potter's growth as a wizard. Tonight, we are probing the depths of Ron's character; who he is and what his importance has and will be in the series. The question is: Ron Weasley - Zero or Hero?
[19:15] <gryffindelle> yay for java script:add_smilie(%22:ron:%22,%22smid_87%22)
[19:15] <gryffindelle> sorry, yay for ron
[19:15] <Aislinn> so, how do people feel about Ron?
[19:16] <Islwyn13> He's certainly NOT a zero, whatever Kloves might think smile
[19:16] <Expelliarmas> he's had definite issues during the series
[19:16] <Angelyka13> sadly enough i'm a fence rider on him... maybe book 7 will clear that up
[19:16] <miss_danielle> yes i agree. He has a lot of issues
[19:16] <Aquamarine> Yes, he's not a zero! He's such a loyal friend to Harry.
[19:16] <Islwyn13> I'm surprised we haven't seen any more of his stragegizing since PP/SP
[19:16] <futureweasley> he's a teenaged boy who feels he lives in the shadow cast by everyone else
[19:16] <stewiegryf> he's definitely not a zero
[19:16] <gryffindelle> he is definitely a hero!!!
[19:17] <futureweasley> I think so, too!
[19:17] <Kristine> Yeah, I agree. He's not a zero although he's not that much of a Hero as Harry is obviously.
[19:17] <Islwyn13> you see his being a hero especially in PoA, I think
[19:17] <Islwyn13> Standing up to Sirius, even though his leg was broken
[19:17] <futureweasley> What qualities about Ron make him heroic... Or indispensable?
[19:17] <Kristine> yeah, although in the movie not as much.
[19:17] <Aquamarine> Well, what is your definition of hero?
[19:17] <Expelliarmas> I don't think he's had the chance to be as great a hero as Harry, though.
[19:17] <Angelyka13> I think my issue is that I felt he would be more based on his strategy skills in book one
[19:17] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hmmm - he's loyal, brave, perceptive (without knowing it)
[19:17] <Islwyn13> His loyalty, definitely
[19:17] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I'm not sure Id class him as a stereotypical hero
[19:17] <Islwyn13> Agreed, Angelyka
[19:17] <Aquamarine> What makes him a hero? Could it be different from what makes Harry a hero?
[19:17] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> but he has noble qualities
[19:17] <Islwyn13> I dn't know why that hasn't been played up more
[19:18] <stewiegryf> he's brave, loyal and he's indispensable because he's a master strategist
[19:18] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> for example - he knows how rich Harry is and could easily take advantage of this, but never does
[19:18] <Aislinn> he is indispensible, because of the knowledge of the wizarding world that is so natural to him, that he is able to provide to Harry
[19:18] <Expelliarmas> aside from book 1, when has he displayed his strategist skills?
[19:18] <gryffindelle> very loyal, sacrificed himself for Harry, so that harry could go on, in PP/SS
[19:18] <futureweasley> he's not really someone who is the quintessential hero...I think you're right GFAB
[19:18] <Islwyn13> I think primarily, he's Harry's constant support (except for that brief period in GoF, but we won't talk about that smile)
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[19:18] <Kristine> Yeah, although I agree with you all it's his loyalty that stands out.
[19:18] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Harry would only too gladly help out
[19:18] <futureweasley> hi Pleshette
[19:18] <miss_danielle> I dunno, I don't think that he is indispensable. That sounds horrible doesn't it?
[19:18] <Aquamarine> hello Pleshette!
[19:18] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hi Pleashette
[19:19] <gryffindelle> hi pleshette
[19:19] <Islwyn13> I think he is because of his support for Harry
[19:19] <Pleshette> Hi all!
[19:19] <Expelliarmas> no, it doesn't sound horrible
[19:19] <Angelyka13> as a constant structure in harrys life he is indispensable
[19:19] <Aquamarine> He's someone Harry can always fall back on... no matter what the other people are saying about him.
[19:19] <Islwyn13> He's the primary one that let's Harry now he's not alone
[19:19] <Kristine> yeah.
[19:19] <futureweasley> no matter how down Ron is, he's Harry's friend first and foremost
[19:19] <Islwyn13> I think his abilities in Strategy will come into play again in book 7, now that he has more confidence
[19:19] <Islwyn13> agreed, FW
[19:19] <futureweasley> never seems to make any quams about it, either
[19:19] <Aquamarine> It makes me think of that time in OotP when he stood up for Harry in front of Deamus
[19:19] <Aislinn> He is indispensible to me, because Harry needs and values his friendship
[19:20] <Kristine> Yeah, although it also had come into play in PS/SS
[19:20] <Islwyn13> OO, another good example, Aquamarine
[19:20] <miss_danielle> Yes, but in terms of who can help Harry and who has helped Harry the most. Apart from PS I haven't seen Ron doing that
[19:20] <Aquamarine> *seamus
[19:20] <Pleshette> I think that's why it was so difficult for Harry in GOF when they weren't speaking
[19:20] <Islwyn13> yep
[19:20] <Aquamarine> yep
[19:20] <futureweasley> I think Ron helps because he has the ability to show up
[19:20] <Kristine> Ron has yet to shine out. I think he'll have a great heroic moment in Book 7
[19:20] <gryffindelle> I think that he won't be as important as Hermione, but he is Harry's best friend
[19:20] <Aislinn> I think he helps Harry every day, just by standing by him, being his confidante
[19:20] <Aquamarine> <miss_danielle> Yes, but in terms of who can help Harry and who has helped Harry the most... well maybe not stragecally, but in other ways
[19:20] <futureweasley> he makes a stand...every time. No questions...he's there
[19:20] <Islwyn13> They support him in differnt ways, Hermione and Ron
[19:20] <Expelliarmas> i think it's Harry who is doing most of the strategic thinking at this point, Ron, however forms a deep base of friendship
[19:21] <Islwyn13> Ron is Harry's emotional support
[19:21] <futureweasley> yes, Aislinn, agreed
[19:21] <futureweasley> Like the Weasley twins, Ron's joking tends to adds humor to the series and relieves tension during serious moments. This seems to be played up more in the films than in the books. How do you feel about Ron's role as comedic relief?
[19:21] <Aquamarine> agreed islwyn
[19:21] <Pleshette> Harry's rock
[19:21] <miss_danielle> I agree that he has a close friendship and has helped in other ways
[19:21] <Kristine> I love it!
[19:21] <Islwyn13> I think it's overplayed in the movies
[19:21] <Angelyka13> way overplayed
[19:21] <gryffindelle> I agree Islwyn
[19:21] <Kristine> How so?
[19:21] <futureweasley> I think it's actually quite annoying in the movies...
[19:21] <Pleshette> I love it in the books because it's balanced with other facets of Ron's personality
[19:21] <Aquamarine> what do you mean ?
[19:21] <Islwyn13> He's funny, but he's not the sidekick in teh books
[19:21] <gryffindelle> but I think it's good in the books
[19:21] <Pleshette> I agree Isl
[19:21] <Islwyn13> the movies make him out to be the bumbling fool
[19:21] <Expelliarmas> Ron's comic relief, however, tends to be rather on point, doesn't it? "maybe he killed Myrtle, but that'd be doing everyone a favor ..."
[19:22] <miss_danielle> I like it personally.
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[19:22] <Aquamarine> Oh, I see.
[19:22] <Islwyn13> all he is in the movies is comic relief
[19:22] <gryffindelle> not too much, but enough to lighten the mood a little
[19:22] <Aislinn> good point, expie
[19:22] <Angelyka13> it works well in the books... kind of like the friend who has a comment at the worst times
[19:22] <miss_danielle> yeah and Rupert Grint has great timing
[19:22] <Islwyn13> Taht's true, Expelliarmas
[19:22] <Aquamarine> good point gryff
[19:22] <Islwyn13> Very on point
[19:22] <Kristine> I agree.
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[19:22] <stewiegryf> gah
[19:22] <Aquamarine> yes, i like his timing too
[19:22] <Expelliarmas> it seems a Weasley trait, the joking comment which is on point
[19:22] <Islwyn13> Oh, Rupert plays the humour well, I just wish they'd give him more to work with
[19:22] <Aislinn> I think that he brings a normalcy to Harry's world that he wouldn't have otherwise - a regular, goofy friend to joke around with
[19:22] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yep - he has classic timing
[19:23] <Aquamarine> agreed aislinn
[19:23] <Islwyn13> I'd've loved to see him in the shack scene more as was in the book
[19:23] <Kristine> Definitely, I agree.
[19:23] <Islwyn13> less as the fearful victim
[19:23] <Kristine> Yeah...
[19:23] <Aquamarine> Agreed.
[19:23] <Pleshette> Me too! I was just listening to that scene today on tape
[19:23] <Islwyn13> his strength isn't shown, and I think that's part of what gives Ron a bad name
[19:23] <Aislinn> well, the movies get a lot of the canon wrong
[19:23] <Aquamarine> He was standing up for Harry....
[19:23] <Kristine> Some lines that were originally of Ron's were given to Hermione in the movies
[19:23] <Islwyn13> Yeah, well, Kloves again
[19:23] <Aquamarine> they let Hermione do that more.
[19:23] <Pleshette> So wrong, imo
[19:23] <futureweasley> exactly Kristine
[19:23] <Kristine> I know..
[19:23] <Aquamarine> Exactly what i was thinking kristine
[19:23] <Expelliarmas> well, up to now, Ron has severd as Ron's guide within the wizarding world
[19:23] <Islwyn13> Hermione is played up, Ron is played down
[19:23] <futureweasley> I think the movies kind of make Ron look like an idiot...
[19:24] <Islwyn13> yeah, they do
[19:24] <Islwyn13> and he's not
[19:24] <Kristine> It's like Ron's side of serious support isn't at all seen as much as Hermione's
[19:24] <futureweasley> and that makes me sad, because he's not at all
[19:24] <Islwyn13> but frankly, the books don't help him too much tehre, either
[19:24] <Islwyn13> esp after PoA
[19:24] <stewiegryf> I pay close attention to some of Ron's humor because sometimes when he's joking, he actually predicts things to come
[19:24] <Aquamarine> Yeh, Ron and Harry have a different friendship...
[19:24] <futureweasley> Ron is his own worst enemy
[19:24] <futureweasley> you're right, Isl
[19:24] <Islwyn13> true, FW
[19:24] <Aquamarine> I know stewiw!
[19:24] <miss_danielle> I do agree they have messed up the balance between Hermione and Ron. Hermione is the one who knows everything it seems in the films. But thats not always true
[19:24] <Kristine> Yeah, somehow.
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[19:24] <Aislinn> he does, stewie
[19:24] <Angelyka13> ron.. such a natural at divination
[19:24] <Islwyn13> He lacks confidence, though he comes to that honestly
[19:24] <futureweasley> hiya Skip
[19:24] <Aquamarine> LOL
[19:24] <Pleshette> He has a lot of growing up to do between books 4 and 6
[19:24] <Expelliarmas> because he lacks a certain amount of confidence, he comes off as weaker
[19:24] <Skiplives> hello all
[19:24] <Islwyn13> too many older brothers smile
[19:25] <Aislinn> I think that is one of the subtle ways that his logical, strategist strength comes through
[19:25] <Islwyn13> true, but they all have to grow up
[19:25] <Aquamarine> well, like the keeper thing...
[19:25] <Kristine> he's somewhat insecure you mean?
[19:25] <Islwyn13> Ron just seems to take longer
[19:25] <futureweasley> In past books, Ron Weasley has shown a stubbornly jealous streak toward both his brothers and to his best friend, Harry Potter. Do you think that Ron is still harboring some need to prove himself as a magical equal, or has he finally come into his own and become comfortable with himself?
[19:25] <Aquamarine> we definetly see rons weaknesses
[19:25] <gryffindelle> lagging, sorry
[19:25] <Expelliarmas> very insecure
[19:25] <Islwyn13> Yeah, FW, I do
[19:25] <Kristine> Yes, it's still there
[19:25] <miss_danielle> i completely think yes
[19:25] <Islwyn13> We see him feeling more confident at the end of HBP
[19:25] <futureweasley> I think he's coming around
[19:25] <Angelyka13> I think he still has the insecurities inside.
[19:25] <miss_danielle> he still wants to prove himself
[19:25] <futureweasley> it's taken long enough
[19:25] <Islwyn13> So I'm really expecting him to shine in book 7
[19:25] <Aquamarine> insecure... but I think he's going to prove himself BIG TIME in 7th
[19:25] <gryffindelle> yes, for sure, but I think it will help him in the end
[19:25] <Aquamarine> yep Is.
[19:25] <harryfreak359> okay, back
[19:25] <stewiegryf> I think he still has a little growing to do, but he has come a long way
[19:25] <Skiplives> It is definitely a confidence issue
[19:26] <Expelliarmas> he's more confident, but I think that's jealous streak can flare it's ugly head at any time and leave him without confidence
[19:26] <Kristine> Yeah, exactly as I was thinking
[19:26] <Aislinn> He is getting there - I think he has more growing to do, and still a need to prove himself, to himself
[19:26] <Pleshette> Me too and I think Hermione can help him do that.
[19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think he's like any other teenager who is at the tail end of a large family....
[19:26] <Kristine> Yeah.
[19:26] <Aquamarine> BRB, sorry
[19:26] <miss_danielle> I agree Expelliarmus
[19:26] <harryfreak359> I am scared of what Ron is going to do in book 7
[19:26] <Islwyn13> Well, he's got Hermione now.
[19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he feels somewhat ignored
[19:26] <Kristine> Help him realize that.
[19:26] <futureweasley> "Weasley is our King"...prime example of how Ron's insecurities get the best of him
[19:26] <Angelyka13> he has to find his nitch.. he tries to hard to fit other peoples
[19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> doesn't feel up to par
[19:26] <Islwyn13> I don't think he'll lose his confidence and get jealous as easily
[19:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> so he would naturally have some sort of envy thing going on
[19:26] <Aislinn> he has a lot to live up to, in terms of comparing himself to his family
[19:26] <Kristine> But I totally agree that he'll be shining out as something heroic in book seven
[19:26] <Pleshette> I wonder if that is how Arthur felt at first about his position in the Ministry
[19:27] <harryfreak359> I think his jealousy of Harry will get the better of him in book 7, causing him to do something stupid
[19:27] <Expelliarmas> where Harry rises to the occassion when he's taunted, Ron goes the other way. Hope he breaks that habit,right quick
[19:27] <Aislinn> it definitely has had an effect on his confidence level
[19:27] <gryffindelle> I don't think so pleshette
[19:27] <Skiplives> He really doesn't know who he is and he can't really define his relationships with others without first defining to himself who he is.
[19:27] <futureweasley> I really hope he's outgrown all that...that defensive and insecure "flying off the panhandle" thing
[19:27] <miss_danielle> I think in book 7, things are too serious to have immature jealous moments. But that doesnt mean its going to go completely
[19:27] <Skiplives> Well some of that is being a tennaged boy
[19:27] <Kristine> I think Ron and Harry in terms of heated arguments and fights wouldn't at all be playing as much.
[19:27] <Islwyn13> Well, maybe a little when they see Krum again
[19:27] <Kristine> In Book seven I mean
[19:27] <futureweasley> yes, Skip...I agree
[19:27] <Islwyn13> But Hermione will probalby clear that up pretty quickly smile
[19:27] <Aquamarine> I hope Ron will really impress us in books seven.
[19:27] <Aislinn> right, skip
[19:27] <Islwyn13> for both Krum and Ron
[19:28] <Kristine> I agree Aquamarine
[19:28] <gryffindelle> me too
[19:28] <Aquamarine> ooo, can't wait for that to happen is!
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[19:28] <futureweasley> Teenaged Angst is a terrible thing to overcome
[19:28] <Islwyn13> It's funny, when things are very serious, Ron stands up for himself and his friends
[19:28] <Expelliarmas> one hopes, but I have my doubts
[19:28] <gryffindelle> hi mama
[19:28] <Aislinn> hi, mamaJ
[19:28] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hi mama
[19:28] <Aislinn> we're discussing Ron at the moment smile
[19:28] <gryffindelle> *mamaJ
[19:28] <Skiplives> Ron does his best work when he doesn't think
[19:28] <Islwyn13> It's during less serious times, like Quidditch, that he loses that confidence
[19:28] <Aquamarine> hey mamaJ
[19:28] <Skiplives> which is where Hermione falls down
[19:28] <Islwyn13> book 7 will be very seroius, I don't think he'll be the same perosn
[19:28] <Aquamarine> What do you mean Skip?
[19:28] <Kristine> Well, he lost his confidence because of verbally being put down..
[19:28] <Angelyka13> when it counts he is confident but when it is a social situation he seems to lose it
[19:29] <MamaJ> I don't know if I could characterize Ron as either a zero or a hero.
[19:29] <futureweasley> Jo shows us in Book 5 that Ron has a hard time shaking off the Imperius Curse. Is it possible that will come into play down the road?
[19:29] <Islwyn13> yeah, I agree...he talks himself into losing his confidence
[19:29] <Kristine> In the middle.
[19:29] <Islwyn13> oo, forgotten about taht
[19:29] <Skiplives> Hermione doesn't do as well under pressure, Ron does well when he doesn't stop to over think everything
[19:29] <harryfreak359> yes i think so
[19:29] <gryffindelle> yes
[19:29] <Islwyn13> I think he'd be able to throw it off better now
[19:29] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> good question future
[19:29] <miss_danielle> yes it could very well come into play
[19:29] <Islwyn13> he's never been sure of himself, has he?
[19:29] <Islwyn13> Makes it difficult to fight a curse like that
[19:29] <Expelliarmas> I don't think Ron has the strength that Harry has, so shaking of the imperious curse will be hard for him; don't think Hermione did it either, did she?
[19:29] <Aquamarine> Well, I don't think it was just that is was a social situation, I think it was the fact that Ron wasn't in his comfort zone in Quidditch, like Harry has always been... therefore he was more vunerable to the taunts and such.
[19:29] <Kristine> Yeah, I agree with Islwyn
[19:29] <Islwyn13> It takes strength in oneself
[19:29] <Skiplives> he was at the chess game in SS/PS
[19:30] <futureweasley> if the DEs get to him though..that could be bad news
[19:30] <stewiegryf> I also find it curious that when he brings it up in Moody's class, Moody says "yes, i would expect you to mention that one."
[19:30] <harryfreak359> I think he'll be under control of Voldie for awhile...I mean what is a better plan than to have Ron under the imperius curse to get to Harry
[19:30] <Islwyn13> Don't think it said if Hermione threw it off or not
[19:30] <Islwyn13> OO
[19:30] <Islwyn13> That'll be interseting, and painful, to see
[19:30] <gryffindelle> but I think when he does throw it off, he will regain his confidence, and his ability to throw it off might rely on his confidence level
[19:30] <Islwyn13> a "betrayal" that isn't really a betrayal
[19:30] <Angelyka13> well if its like the movie portrays I think Hermione might notice Rons eyes changing
[19:30] <Kristine> Ron focefully betraying Harry by being under the Imperius?
[19:30] <Aquamarine> I think Harry would notice his behavior though.
[19:30] <Islwyn13> lol, Angelyka
[19:31] <Islwyn13> Let's hope it's not that easy smile
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[19:31] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> *doesn't want to consider it *
[19:31] <MamaJ> I think it said that Harry was the only one to throw it off.
[19:31] <Islwyn13> yeah, that's what I'm thinking Kristine
[19:31] <Islwyn13> If it happens
[19:31] <Aquamarine> Yeah.
[19:31] <futureweasley> The idea that Ron (and Hermione) could be used against Harry...it's extremely hard to imagine...but a very real possibility
[19:31] <Kristine> Yeah...
[19:31] <Islwyn13> That would definitely be a huge blow to Harry
[19:31] <Aislinn> it sounds like there are not many people in the wizarding world who have the strength to throw off the curse
[19:31] <Islwyn13> thinking tha tRon has betrayed him
[19:31] <futureweasley> lol GFAB
[19:31] <Skiplives> I don't think Ron could hurt his friends though
[19:31] <stewiegryf> i think Harry would notice his milky eyes...or at least in Kloves' version of book seven. wink
[19:31] <Islwyn13> But then, we already have that senario with Snape, so it might be redundent
[19:31] <Kristine> lol
[19:31] <harryfreak359> I think it will start as a real betrayal though, Ron will leave Harry and Hermione, because so some jealous issues he is having, then get caught by Voldemort, and have the imperius curse put over him
[19:31] <Aislinn> I don't know if it indicates a weakness on Ron's part, as much as showing him to by a typical member of the wizarding society
[19:32] <futureweasley> that's the brutality of the Imperius...he could do it because he's being told to
[19:32] <Islwyn13> I don't think Ron's that weak anymore
[19:32] <Angelyka13> i dont think he would betray them out of spite
[19:32] <Islwyn13> I don't think he'd everleave Harry and Hermione
[19:32] <Islwyn13> Especailly not now
[19:32] <Islwyn13> too much at stake
[19:32] <Aquamarine> I hope that Ron won't betray Harry..
[19:32] <Kristine> I dunno, there are far bigger problems to deal with than Ron having to betray Harry
[19:32] <MamaJ> I agree with Islwyn
[19:32] <miss_danielle> I'm undecided
[19:32] <harryfreak359> Well, I sort of doubt him
[19:32] <Aquamarine> yes, I agree Is... he had time to leave... now is not that time!
[19:32] <Skiplives> I see Ron becoming much more of a compliment to Hermione in Book 7
[19:32] <Islwyn13> why?
[19:32] <harryfreak359> I am not the bigges of Ron fans
[19:32] <Expelliarmas> I have doubts about Ron as well
[19:32] <miss_danielle> me too
[19:32] <stewiegryf> I think Ron's gained enough confidence through his time on the Quidditch team that he won't go running away from Harry, no matter what would happen
[19:32] <Kristine> I love Ron for his humor.
[19:32] <Islwyn13> what makes you doubt?
[19:32] <harryfreak359> biggest*
[19:32] <Expelliarmas> especially after the Nifler scene
[19:33] <futureweasley> I don't see Ron ACTIVELY persuing going against Harry
[19:33] <miss_danielle> he just has yet to convince me
[19:33] <Aislinn> I think the three of them have been developing, not only individually, but also as a trio
[19:33] <harryfreak359> just he seems very...I don't know
[19:33] <futureweasley> Ron <> Wormtail
[19:33] <harryfreak359> just there is something about him
[19:33] <Islwyn13> Oh, NO
[19:33] <Aislinn> I think they are going to use their strengths together, to be more than the sum of the parts
[19:33] <Expelliarmas> the jealously streak is a real danger; people sell out for less
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[19:33] <Aquamarine> *doesn't want to think about it*
[19:33] <Islwyn13> Not at all!
[19:33] <Kristine> Hard to imagine his betrayal honestly.
[19:33] <MamaJ> I don't think Ron adn Wormtail can be compared.
[19:33] <miss_danielle> yes i agree Expell
[19:33] <Islwyn13> Wormtail was a definite hanger on...Ron is Harry's best friend
[19:33] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yes - agree Kristine
[19:33] <gryffindelle> i agree mama
[19:33] <Aquamarine> Yes, agreed Is.
[19:33] <harryfreak359> Well I agree with that Islwyn
[19:33] <miss_danielle> I don't agree with the Wormtail comparison
[19:34] <Islwyn13> They're as close as Sirius and James, I think
[19:34] <miss_danielle> but i do have doubts
[19:34] <stewiegryf> Ron and Harry are a LOT closer than Peter and James/Sirius
[19:34] <Aquamarine> Agreed.
[19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> If Ron was a hanger on he would have taken advantage of Harrys status - both in popularity and financial status
[19:34] <futureweasley> I think if Ron did find himself under an Imperius...that could be one of the most heartbreaking moments in the series
[19:34] <Skiplives> Ron is Harry's Lancelot, only Hermione could come between them
[19:34] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he has done neither
[19:34] <Islwyn13> agreed, FW
[19:34] <Kristine> Yeah and issues as betrayal wouldn't fit in book seven, well I think it wouldn't..
[19:34] <Aislinn> iI agree ginbot
[19:34] <Aquamarine> Yep FW
[19:34] <MamaJ> Ron and Harry's relationship seems comparable to James' and Sirius'
[19:34] <Islwyn13> Except taht Harry has no romatic feelings for Hermione
[19:34] <harryfreak359> but I still think he'll do something stupid, like leaving,
[19:34] <Expelliarmas> FW, that's why I have my doubts, JKR is so good at planting these little seeds of doubt
[19:34] <Islwyn13> so she couldn't come between them
[19:34] <Skiplives> agreed
[19:35] <Angelyka13> maybe it will be him leaving b/c he feels he is a hinderance
[19:35] <futureweasley> ugh, thank goodness for that Isl!
[19:35] <Islwyn13> that's more possibley, angelyka
[19:35] <Expelliarmas> the choice to betray, however, has been a theme in the series
[19:35] <harryfreak359> I think Ron has suspisions about the Harry/hermione thing
[19:35] <Skiplives> I'm not saying that Harry is Arthur
[19:35] <futureweasley> JKR is the master at "seed planting"
[19:35] <Aquamarine> *again, doesn't want to think about it*
[19:35] <miss_danielle> she really is
[19:35] <Islwyn13> but I can't see what would make him think he's that much of a hindrance
[19:35] <Islwyn13> that he would feel it was better to abandon Harry and Hermione
[19:35] <futureweasley> and for her to point that out as one of Ron's weaknesses...I just think there could be more to it
[19:35] <gryffindelle> I'm being told to go do work, so I'm going to have to leave for now
[19:35] <Aquamarine> I think Ron's jealous of anyone who looks at Hermione... but now that Harry has Ginny, I guess things are betetr
[19:35] <gryffindelle> don't have a choice
[19:35] <MamaJ> How can Ron have suspicions when Harry just dated his sister
[19:35] <harryfreak359> I think he'll just get mad, like he did in GoF
[19:35] <futureweasley> bye gryff!
[19:36] <stewiegryf> bye gryff
[19:36] <Kristine> I agree Aqua
[19:36] <gryffindelle> I'll try to come back though
[19:36] <harryfreak359> bye!
[19:36] <futureweasley> thanks for stopping by
[19:36] <Expelliarmas> bye griff
[19:36] <Islwyn13> why would Ron ahd suspicions?
[19:36] <Kristine> Bye gryff
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[19:36] <Islwyn13> He's never shown any
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[19:36] <futureweasley> hi fawkes
[19:36] <Islwyn13> of Krum, yes, but not of Harry
[19:36] <Aislinn> I don't see the story going in that direction harryfreak
[19:36] <Kristine> Jelousy more of it.
[19:36] <harryfreak359> nooooo
[19:36] <Angelyka13> i dont know.. i never got the harry hermione vibe
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[19:36] <Aquamarine> ditto,
[19:36] <fawkes28> hello! smile
[19:36] <Islwyn13> I don't see him getting mad like that, either.
[19:36] <Islwyn13> he learned from that
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[19:36] <Kristine> Hi fawkes!
[19:36] <harryfreak359> nonononono
[19:36] <Skiplives> I expect Book 7 only to move forward, I can't see any love triangle or betrayal fitting in the book
[19:36] <futureweasley> they have to be unified in their fight now...there is no room for jealousy
[19:36] <Kristine> Yeah I agree Skip
[19:36] <Aquamarine> Yeh, I agree Skip.
[19:36] <Angelyka13> true fw
[19:37] <Aquamarine> Yes, FW.
[19:37] <Islwyn13> well, I think betrayal could come into play, but only via the Imperious curse
[19:37] <stewiegryf> I agree Skip, there's too much other stuff to do in that book
[19:37] <Kristine> But it'd be too much to deal with
[19:37] <Aquamarine> Possibly... I hope not though Is.
[19:37] <Skiplives> this book is going to fly!
[19:37] <Islwyn13> It would be a failure of Harry's to believe Ron was willingly bbetraying him
[19:37] <miss_danielle> there may be no room for it, but that only means that jealousy will be a huge barrier if ron can't control it
[19:37] <Islwyn13> not of Ron's by doing something childish
[19:37] <Islwyn13> not at this point
[19:37] <Expelliarmas> I think Jo will make the book as long as it needs to be to deal with everything
[19:37] <futureweasley> If the Weasleys were a wealthy family a la the Malfoys, would Ron be so insecure about money? Would he and Harry still have been friends?
[19:37] <Aquamarine> They have so much to do already... i can't see a HUGE plot twist like the imperius or betrayal coming in
[19:37] <Kristine> Yeah but not entirely.
[19:37] <PrunellaGringepith> i don;t think Ron could betray his friends, even under the imperius curse
[19:37] <Kristine> I see Ron as possibly someone who would be spoiled
[19:38] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Yes, I think so F/W
[19:38] <Islwyn13> given the Weasley's attitudes, and what their priorities are
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[19:38] <Islwyn13> Yeah, i can see Ron still being Harry's friend
[19:38] <fawkes28> future, i think that ron could still be harry's friend
[19:38] <Islwyn13> and he'd still have to live up to his brothers
[19:38] <PrunellaGringepith> he has shown his loyalty from teh beginning
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[19:38] <Kristine> If they were rich I mean
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[19:38] <fawkes28> it's his heart that counts not the money
[19:38] <futureweasley> would their priorities be what they are if they could afford more?
[19:38] <Islwyn13> sure
[19:38] <Aquamarine> Agreed Fawkes!
[19:38] <Expelliarmas> I wonder about that; Ron would likely have been a totally different person; don't know how he'd relate to Harry
[19:38] <Kristine> I depends on how they're brought up
[19:38] <harryfreak359> ya'll are misunderstanding me...there is no Harry/Hermione feelings in the book. But I think it would be just like ron to get jealous over something and leave (not to betray Harry to LV, just leave)
[19:38] <Islwyn13> money doesn't necessarily make you arrogant and cruel
[19:38] <futureweasley> you think so? haven't you guys been watching Windfall?
[19:38] <Islwyn13> hehe, no
[19:38] <fawkes28> nope
[19:38] <Aquamarine> nope
[19:39] <Kristine> no..
[19:39] <harryfreak359> no
[19:39] <futureweasley> perfectly good people can be corrupted by money
[19:39] <Expelliarmas> wind what?
[19:39] <Aquamarine> LOL
[19:39] <Kristine> Well, money can do a lot
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[19:39] <Islwyn13> true, but not always
[19:39] <miss_danielle> lol
[19:39] <Aquamarine> But... Ron?
[19:39] <harryfreak359> yeah, everyone can
[19:39] <Kristine> I agree fw
[19:39] <fawkes28> money could have made harry a different person but it didnt
[19:39] <futureweasley> true fawkes
[19:39] <miss_danielle> exactly fawkes
[19:39] <Aquamarine> I always thought he was bigger than that
[19:39] <futureweasley> excellent point
[19:39] <Islwyn13> I think we do the Weasley's a disservice by assuming they wouldn't be good people if they had mone
[19:39] <Aislinn> good point, fawkes
[19:39] <Expelliarmas> I don't know he would have been corrupted but they would have had less in common
[19:39] <Kristine> Well he can possibly be insecure with older brothers
[19:39] <PrunellaGringepith> i think Molly and Arthur would have brought their children up the same way whether they had money of not
[19:39] <Angelyka13> they did get money.. but it didnt change them they went on a family vaca
[19:39] <Skiplives> true
[19:39] <Islwyn13> agreed, Prunella
[19:39] <Aquamarine> ture
[19:39] <Aquamarine> *true
[19:40] <PrunellaGringepith> exactly
[19:40] <fawkes28> which they deserved
[19:40] <Skiplives> they don't place much store in money
[19:40] <Kristine> Yeah but it wasnt a lot...
[19:40] <futureweasley> how would Harry and Ron have initially bonded? do you think that they would have become friends so quickly?
[19:40] <Aquamarine> absolutely
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[19:40] <lupinslover> hello!
[19:40] <futureweasley> hi lupins!
[19:40] <miss_danielle> plus it was only so Mr Sirius Black could see Mr Scabbers :P
[19:40] <Kristine> Yeah, based on their past they totally would
[19:40] <Aquamarine> Yes, they would have.
[19:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think so F/W
[19:40] <fawkes28> i think ron would have been more secure with himself
[19:40] <Islwyn13> sure, only Ron may have been the confident one, taking Harry more under his wing
[19:40] <Angelyka13> well.. its not like harry doesnt have money..
[19:40] <Islwyn13> Remember, Harry's famous, taht's enough to get a conversation going smile
[19:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Ron was friendly toward Harry before he knew who he was
[19:40] <Expelliarmas> I don't know, one of the things they have in common is they both understand deprivation; Ron because he is poor; Harry, well, the Dursdleys ...
[19:40] <Skiplives> I've known rich people that were very down to earth and poor people that thought the sun rose and set on them
[19:40] <lupinslover> sorry what are we talking abou?
[19:41] <fawkes28> exactly isl
[19:41] <Kristine> I agree Expelliarmus
[19:41] <Aquamarine> I doubt Ron would be like that confident, even if he did have money. He would still have brothers
[19:41] <Islwyn13> True, Skip...evenin the books
[19:41] <Angelyka13> and the mothers expectations
[19:41] <Islwyn13> Look at the Gaunts
[19:41] <harryfreak359> I don't doubt Ron's friendship with Harry, I think they have a very good friendship
[19:41] <Skiplives> exactly
[19:41] <Aquamarine> Me neither
[19:41] <PrunellaGringepith> whether Ron would be different if his family were rich Lupins
[19:41] <Kristine> yeah same here
[19:41] <lupinslover> ohhh
[19:41] <harryfreak359> just Ron has been known to, do stupid things out of jealousy for Harry
[19:41] <lupinslover> thank you
[19:41] <lupinslover> I was very lost
[19:42] <Aquamarine> Like what harryfreak?
[19:42] <Expelliarmas> well, the Gaunts lost their money because of that whole in-breeding thing which made them nuts; the Weasleys are nuts, just poor
[19:42] <Islwyn13> sure, when he was younger
[19:42] <Skiplives> Remember too that they are now 17 and much more mature than they were at 14
[19:42] <futureweasley> I think it's their similar backgrounds that brought them together so quickly
[19:42] <Kristine> I agree harry
[19:42] <Islwyn13> not since GoF, I don't thin
[19:42] <lupinslover> I don't think it would make a differance
[19:42] <Islwyn13> they also have a lot of differences, FW
[19:42] <Aislinn> what do you see as similar in their backgrounds, FW?
[19:42] <harryfreak359> Yes well GoF is a perfect example
[19:42] <Kristine> But there's still that jeleousy
[19:42] <Islwyn13> Ron has a huge, loving family - Harry was an abused child
[19:42] <futureweasley> they both come from "humble beginnings"
[19:42] <Islwyn13> yeah, but he was 14 then, and LV wasn't back
[19:42] <Aquamarine> yes, but that GOF occurence was once. I think Ron matured after that.
[19:42] <fawkes28> but harry was still loved by his parents
[19:42] <PrunellaGringepith> exactly islwyn
[19:42] <Kristine> We all develop a little bit of the green monster in our selves.
[19:42] <Islwyn13> I think Ron's priorities will have changed
[19:43] <Aquamarine> Yep.
[19:43] <Islwyn13> But he doesnst remember that
[19:43] <PrunellaGringepith> i thik tey are friends partly because of their differences
[19:43] <futureweasley> they both had "nothing" (material wise)
[19:43] <lupinslover> But I don't think ron in nature is a jeleous person
[19:43] <Kristine> I agree fw
[19:43] <Angelyka13> now he does... he knows they died for him
[19:43] <Aislinn> I see them as comiing from extremely different backgrounds
[19:43] <Islwyn13> but that's only one thing, FW
[19:43] <fawkes28> yes but it is within him
[19:43] <Islwyn13> I don't think they bonded over poverty
[19:43] <Aislinn> Ron is surrounded by a big, boisterous, loving family
[19:43] <Islwyn13> Esp since harry had money when Ron met him
[19:43] <PrunellaGringepith> I think Ron has already worked though his issues of jealousy towards Harry
[19:43] <Expelliarmas> not over poverty, but it was one factor
[19:43] <Angelyka13> but they have one major commonality ? is that a word? acceptance of others
[19:43] <Islwyn13> Harry bought a little of everything on teh train, and Ron saw that
[19:43] <Kristine> I think Ron and Harry fill each others needs or what they lack
[19:43] <Aislinn> and is raised in a completely magical world
[19:43] <harryfreak359> and has a lot of competion to deal with
[19:43] <Aislinn> Harry knows nothing ot the magical world until shortly before they meet
[19:43] <Aquamarine> BRB
[19:43] <Islwyn13> And Ron didn't learn about the Dursleys until later
[19:43] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> you beat me to it Kristine smile
[19:44] <futureweasley> these are all excellent points...
[19:44] <miss_danielle> i think they bonded over the wizarding world tbh. Harry didnt know anything and i'm sure Ron enjoyed being really knowledgable for once
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[19:44] <Islwyn13> eyah, I agree, Danielle
[19:44] <Kristine> hehe. :P
[19:44] <Angelyka13> ditto
[19:44] <Islwyn13> And I agree, Prunella, I dno't think Ron is really jealous of HArry anymore
[19:44] <lupinslover> me too
[19:44] <Skiplives> not of Harry
[19:44] <futureweasley> totally downshifting...
[19:44] <Islwyn13> Harry has been through so much...
[19:44] <futureweasley> Jo said that Ron's Patronus is a Jack Russell terrier. Why do you think this is?
[19:44] <Kristine> I guess so..
[19:45] <Islwyn13> Didn't seh say it's because that's her favorite dog breed? smile
[19:45] <Angelyka13> haha.. i never heard that its kinda funny
[19:45] <miss_danielle> ignore my terrible spelling btw, it is quarter to one in my neck of the woods
[19:45] <Kristine> Is it the one in the Beethoven Movies?
[19:45] <fawkes28> i think maybe because dogs are loyal
[19:45] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> bark worse than bit?
[19:45] <Expelliarmas> Jack Russel? aren't those things manic?
[19:45] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> nah
[19:45] <Pleshette> Yes I think so Isl
[19:45] <Skiplives> because he is tenacious
[19:45] <PrunellaGringepith> and they are very faithful
[19:45] <Islwyn13> Eek, Danielle smile
[19:45] <miss_danielle> that is pretyy funny
[19:45] <Islwyn13> Drink more coffee!
[19:45] <Skiplives> also smart dogs
[19:45] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Jack Russels are small but fierce
[19:45] <futureweasley> I think a Jack Russel Terrior is a little yippy dog
[19:45] <Islwyn13> I think the faithful thing is probably the big one
[19:45] <miss_danielle> they are so cute smile
[19:45] <Skiplives> not too yippy
[19:45] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> theyre loyal
[19:45] <lupinslover> lol
[19:45] <Skiplives> they are good orking dogs
[19:46] <Skiplives> working
[19:46] <PrunellaGringepith> well they are small but not yippy
[19:46] <harryfreak359> actually I don't think yip too much, but they are adorable
[19:46] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and
[19:46] <Islwyn13> and red furred...kidding smile
[19:46] <Kristine> It describes Ron lol. :P
[19:46] <fawkes28> yes and i think a lot of people underestimate ron just like they would that dog
[19:46] <Aislinn> JKR has a Jack Russel
[19:46] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL - just going by Frasier's fathers - comedic relief
[19:46] <Islwyn13> true, FAwkes
[19:46] <futureweasley> I think the operative part of that is that his patronus is a dog...loyal, friendly, always sticks by your side
[19:46] <PrunellaGringepith> true!
[19:46] <lupinslover> I never saw ron as a dog
[19:46] <Aislinn> I think that is one of the reasons she picked it as Ron's patronus
[19:46] <miss_danielle> no dog is better than my labrador smile
[19:46] <Islwyn13> agreed
[19:46] <Islwyn13> lol
[19:46] <fawkes28> yes future
[19:46] <Expelliarmas> lol, except for my spaniel!
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[19:47] <miss_danielle> lol
[19:47] <lupinslover> hi Tanaqui
[19:47] <miss_danielle> no way ;)
[19:47] <Skiplives> Fred and George would be Bull Mastiffs - Beaters and all
[19:47] <Islwyn13> lol
[19:47] <futureweasley> lol Skip
[19:47] <Kristine> lol!
[19:47] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Dogs are typically loyal who demonstrate unconditional loyalty - I think this suits Ron to a tee
[19:47] <Angelyka13> "The Jack Russell is a happy, bold, energetic dog; they are extremely loyal, intelligent and assertive. Their greatest attribute is their working ability, closely followed by their excellent qualities as a companion
[19:47] <Tanaqui> hi everyone--is there a current question?
[19:47] <Kristine> yeah, and hence: Man's best friend
[19:47] <Islwyn13> that's perfect, Angelyka
[19:47] <Aislinn> perfect description for ron, angel
[19:47] <Islwyn13> I think taht's perfect for Ron
[19:47] <Angelyka13> jack russel terrior assn... not my words
[19:47] <PrunellaGringepith> good description
[19:47] <Kristine> Yep definitely
[19:47] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yep 'tis
[19:47] <Expelliarmas> Tanaqui--Ron's patronus, a Jack Russel Terrier
[19:47] <miss_danielle> I do think that its a good description
[19:47] <futureweasley> Jo said that Ron's Patronus is a Jack Russell terrier. Why do you think this is?
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[19:48] <futureweasley> sorry, repeat of the question for Tanaqui
[19:48] <Skiplives> Jack Russell's are working dogs that frequently take on animals much larger than themselves and come out on top
[19:48] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Jack Russels - dont people also use them as guard dogs?
[19:48] <Islwyn13> again, Ron vs. Sirius
[19:48] <futureweasley> thanks for the wiki Angel
[19:48] <fawkes28> that's good to know smile
[19:48] <Islwyn13> of coruse, Sirius wasn't actually attacking him
[19:48] <DumbleDebbie> so have you guys talked yet about Ron's skill as a strategist and how that might play a role in Book 7?
[19:48] <Kristine> lol. :P
[19:48] <Islwyn13> But he stood up to him
[19:48] <Islwyn13> it's been mentioned, Dumble
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[19:48] <Islwyn13> and I agree
[19:48] <Kristine> Sirius is more outgoing and straightforward
[19:48] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> and aren't they used for shepherding animals?
[19:48] <Islwyn13> It'll come into play again
[19:48] <miss_danielle> Lol put them up in a fight though and Sirius would win. Wooooo Sirius smile
[19:49] <lupinslover> i'm sure
[19:49] <Kristine> yeah
[19:49] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> guide dogs in other words?
[19:49] <Islwyn13> true, but Ron would still stand up to him...
[19:49] <Islwyn13> That's bravery
[19:49] <Expelliarmas> no, Jack Russells catch ... rats!
[19:49] <Tanaqui> okay, thanks! i find it interesting that terriers are hunting dogs
[19:49] <Rebekia> Hey Aqua
[19:49] <Angelyka13> it also says they are known to amuse b/c of their funny antics.. he is humorous
[19:49] <Aislinn> they are a terrier - terriers are used to go to ground and get rid of vermin
[19:49] <Aquamarine> Sorry, but what are we talking about ?
[19:49] <Aquamarine> Hey again everyone1
[19:49] <Islwyn13> Ron's patronus, the Jack Russel Terrier
[19:49] <Aislinn> Jack Russell terriers - Ron's patronus
[19:49] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> so perhaps Ron is a sort of guide/guardian without perhaps knowing it at this stage
[19:49] <Aquamarine> Oh,thanks!
[19:49] <Skiplives> I've got to run - bye all
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[19:49] <Aquamarine> Bye Skip!
[19:49] <miss_danielle> oooh Mr Scabbers me thinks
[19:49] <Islwyn13> Oh, he's definitely been a guide for Harr yin the wizarding world
[19:49] <lupinslover> bye bye
[19:49] <fawkes28> bye skip
[19:49] <Kristine> Bye!
[19:49] <Aislinn> yes he has
[19:49] <Angelyka13> eww... secretly they are not good dogs to have with any other animal... very aggressive
[19:49] <Islwyn13> There is still so much Harry doesn't know taht, for Ron, is second nature
[19:49] <lupinslover> you guys talk really fast
[19:50] <Tanaqui> someone mentioned firery temperment?
[19:50] <Islwyn13> hehe
[19:50] <Kristine> Type. :P
[19:50] <futureweasley> Ron was himself in the Mirror of Erised in year 1 as being Head Boy and Quidditch Captain. Do you think, if he were to look in the mirror today, that the deepest desires of his heart have changed much? And if they have, how so? What would Ron see now?
[19:50] <Islwyn13> he's definitely got that,too smile
[19:50] <lupinslover> smile
[19:50] <Aquamarine> Well, dogs are loyal... so that could be a reflection of Ron's loyalty to Harry.
[19:50] <Expelliarmas> yes, we talk fast, apparently we're all from New York!
[19:50] <Islwyn13> I think they'll have changed
[19:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> ah yes - Tanaqui - Jack Russels are known for being high-strong
[19:50] <harryfreak359> I don't think they would have changed too much
[19:50] <Islwyn13> After HBP
[19:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> *high-strung
[19:50] <DumbleDebbie> so does anyone here think Ron is a zero? (I don't)
[19:50] <Islwyn13> Before that, no, but now...
[19:50] <fawkes28> i think ron would see them all coming out on top too
[19:50] <harryfreak359> perhaps a little bit
[19:50] <Tanaqui> firey=ron's hair color as well
[19:50] <DumbleDebbie> just wondering
[19:50] <Aquamarine> I think he would he Hermione in there somewhere?
[19:50] <Angelyka13> yes... i think he has a more secure image of himself at the end of book six
[19:50] <miss_danielle> I think it would have changed
[19:50] <lupinslover> FW I think he would see him and HErmione
[19:50] <harryfreak359> not quite a zero
[19:50] <PrunellaGringepith> dont think his image would change much except that Hermione would be with him
[19:50] <Angelyka13> and wouldnt need those things to define him as a success
[19:50] <Rebekia> It's suiting since his demeanor is small and meek, but he can really pack a bite when cornered
[19:50] <Kristine> yeah!
[19:50] <Aquamarine> "entwined with Hermione"
[19:51] <Kristine> exactly Aqua!
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[19:51] <lupinslover> ohh la la
[19:51] <Islwyn13> aw! a joint mirror vision!
[19:51] <Tanaqui> i think the underlying feature of ron's desire is fame and fortune
[19:51] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:51] <Aquamarine> I don't really think that.
[19:51] <Islwyn13> NOt fortune
[19:51] <Islwyn13> he didn't see himself as rich
[19:51] <Riddle2> =)
[19:51] <Islwyn13> he saw himself as accomplished
[19:51] <Pleshette> maybe security
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[19:51] <Rebekia> I don't Ron is amazing as a wizard. I really believe he performed a nonverbal spell in COS
[19:51] <futureweasley> I think that he would see what JKR says Hermione sees...
[19:51] <lupinslover> no I don't thinks it's that shalow
[19:51] <harryfreak359> fame yes. a little bit at the least
[19:51] <Aquamarine> I think he is slightly deeper than that, thoygh we haven;t been exposed to that side of him yet.
[19:51] <lupinslover> **shallow
[19:51] <Angelyka13> he saw himself as admired...
[19:51] <miss_danielle> *is surpressing all urges to sing fame*
[19:51] <DumbleDebbie> I think Ron just wants to be noticed. He's in a family with lots of siblings that one way or another demand attendtion
[19:51] <Aislinn> I don't see it as fame and fortune so much as being noticed
[19:52] <Islwyn13> agreed, Dumble
[19:52] <futureweasley> The trio, emergine victorious over LV, closely entwined with a "certain someone"
[19:52] <PrunellaGringepith> agreed aislinn
[19:52] <Pleshette> Y
[19:52] <Islwyn13> and he wants to shine, just once, more than they
[19:52] <Expelliarmas> *coughs* and wonders what's wrong with working toward becoming rich?
[19:52] <Tanaqui> well, i guess fortune kinda goes with the saying, but ron does seem to talk about money throughout the series
[19:52] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> hmmm - I'll add that maybe not so much noticed as he wants to feel he's of value
[19:52] <Aislinn> when you have so many high achieving siblings, you can get lost in the crowd
[19:52] <DumbleDebbie> Aislinn, we're on the same wavelenght smile
[19:52] <Islwyn13> depends on why you want to be rich, Expie
[19:52] <Kristine> Money does a lot to people
[19:52] <fawkes28> and money does always make a person happy
[19:52] <Aislinn> yes smile
[19:52] <Islwyn13> uh,no
[19:52] <miss_danielle> i agree there is nothing wrong with it. But i don't think it's a sub-conscious desire he has
[19:52] <Expelliarmas> I'd like to try that experiment
[19:52] <Kristine> But it depends on how you use it
[19:52] <Islwyn13> money is, in and of itself, worthless
[19:52] <Aquamarine> Rich in looove... sorry, couldn't resist smile
[19:52] <fawkes28> does not sorry
[19:52] <fawkes28> lol
[19:53] <Islwyn13> it's the security it provides that creates a sense of happiness
[19:53] <Angelyka13> money makes me happy smile
[19:53] <futureweasley> lol Fawkes, I was just going to ask
[19:53] <Rebekia> hello
[19:53] <Kristine> Money is a material thing...
[19:53] <Islwyn13> what money can get you makes you happy, I would propose
[19:53] <Aislinn> right islwyn
[19:53] <futureweasley> I don't really think it's the money that makes people happy
[19:53] <Islwyn13> not the money itself
[19:53] <Kristine> Hi Rebekia
[19:53] <futureweasley> yes Isl
[19:53] <Aislinn> hi rebekia
[19:53] <Angelyka13> yeah... student loans paid off!!
[19:53] <lupinslover> hey hey hey
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[19:53] <Aquamarine> LOL angelyka!
[19:53] <miss_danielle> do NOT mention student loans. man
[19:53] <Islwyn13> I think more, it creates...what's that word...
[19:53] <Islwyn13> um...
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[19:53] <Islwyn13> not peace...
[19:53] <Rebekia> What are we talking about?
[19:53] <Kristine> lol. :P
[19:53] <Islwyn13> contentment
[19:53] <futureweasley> comfortability
[19:53] <Islwyn13> That's it
[19:54] <Expelliarmas> money may not make Ron happy, but it's a start, it's a start toward financial security
[19:54] <miss_danielle> definitely
[19:54] <futureweasley> contentment...that's a good one
[19:54] <Aquamarine> toward confindence!
[19:54] <Islwyn13> but it wouldn't be enough
[19:54] <Kristine> yeah
[19:54] <Tanaqui> rebekia==what ron would see in the mirro
[19:54] <Islwyn13> he wants to stand out
[19:54] <Tanaqui> *mirror
[19:54] <Angelyka13> i think if he got money he would realize it is not what he truely seeks
[19:54] <fawkes28> (grrr i keep getting disconnected)
[19:54] <Pleshette> I could see Ron wanting to help out his family as well
[19:54] <Islwyn13> if his family were rich, he would still feel invisible, I think
[19:54] <Rebekia> Don't we know what he saw in the MOE?
[19:54] <PrunellaGringepith> i don't think Ron particularly wants to be rich... just not poor anymore
[19:54] <lupinslover> he wants to show he is as good as his brothers
[19:54] <Expelliarmas> which the Weasley's don't have and the kids do think about; Ginny was teased and wrote about it in her COS journal
[19:54] <futureweasley> he wants to make a difference in a way that noone in his family has before
[19:54] <Aislinn> being number 6 boy - how much was he noticed, growing up
[19:54] <Aquamarine> But what he would see now, Rebekia.
[19:54] <Kristine> agreed fw
[19:54] <Islwyn13> what he DID see, yeah, but we're theorizeing as to whether it might have changed now,
[19:54] <Expelliarmas> Ron constantly thinks about his lack of money and what to do to make some more
[19:54] <Aislinn> especially with Fred and George and their constant antics
[19:55] <miss_danielle> i agree Expell
[19:55] <Islwyn13> he feels like a charity case, that's waht bothers him
[19:55] <Islwyn13> he wants to be able to do for himself, I think
[19:55] <Aquamarine> I know, but I don't think that would be his deepest, most sub-consious desire, do you?
[19:55] <DumbleDebbie> now Ron would likely see Harry defeating Voldemort and himself married to Hermione
[19:55] <Aislinn> I don't see him actively figuring out ways to make money - not like F&G
[19:55] <Angelyka13> i think the state of affairs that they wizarding world is now in would drastically change his desires
[19:55] <futureweasley> Ron has been under Fred & George's thumb for quite a long time now
[19:55] <Expelliarmas> even F/G thought about the lack of money and Arthur's inability to provide when they got the joke shop going
[19:55] <fawkes28> yes debbie
[19:55] <lupinslover> well thats why he wont take money from Harry
[19:55] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> He has a great sense of pride which is different than Percy's need for status
[19:55] <Aquamarine> I think Ron is definetly deeper than fame and riches.
[19:55] <Rebekia> I think Ron would see Hermione punching the daylights out of Krum
[19:55] <miss_danielle> think about Lupin. I'm sure he values happiness and other things more highly. But he would have such a better life with money
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[19:55] <PrunellaGringepith> agreed Giiny
[19:55] <Kristine> I think material desires arent the ones that would appear on the mirror for ron
[19:55] <Aislinn> he complains because the lack of money prevents him from feeling secure - look at the dress robes he had to wear
[19:55] <Islwyn13> Percy is the one who I see as being more inetrested in wealth
[19:55] <Aquamarine> LOL Rebekia!
[19:56] <Tanaqui> do you think ron's getting to be a prefect changed his ideas of 'being in charge'?
[19:56] <Aquamarine> Agreead.
[19:56] <Islwyn13> that was a typical embarrassment of a teenager
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[19:56] <Islwyn13> having to wear second-hand clothes
[19:56] <Islwyn13> doesn't make him shallow, just normal smile
[19:56] <lupinslover> that sucks BTW
[19:56] <Aquamarine> Yep, Is.
[19:56] <futureweasley> wants vs. needs...
[19:56] <Expelliarmas> Percy is the one more interested in Power; "prefects who rose to power ..."
[19:56] <Kristine> Needs...
[19:56] <Islwyn13> And, let's face it, he wasn't going to win any beauty contests in taht getup smile
[19:56] <lupinslover> lol
[19:56] <Aquamarine> LOL
[19:56] <Kristine> lol.
[19:56] <miss_danielle> Percy definitely. Man i hate Percy
[19:56] <miss_danielle> lol
[19:56] <lupinslover> HAhahahaha
[19:56] <Islwyn13> I'd be embarrassed too
[19:57] <Rebekia> I think it changed his idea of what it's like to be in charge, but not his desire to lead. Whether he likes it or not...he's someone people look to
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[19:57] <Kristine> lol. :P Well, he has issues
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[19:57] <Islwyn13> But, again, ron never saw riches in teh mirror
[19:57] <lupinslover> ya I'd hide
[19:57] <Islwyn13> he saw accomplishments
[19:57] <PrunellaGringepith> grrrrrrrrrrr ... Percy
[19:57] <Islwyn13> he saw people being proud of him for his own accomplishments
[19:57] <Kristine> yeah, so anything material wouldn't exaclty be seen.
[19:57] <lupinslover> it's true
[19:57] <futureweasley> I think he sees riches in forms that are not necessarily money
[19:57] <Islwyn13> being seen for himself, not as "one of the weasleys"
[19:57] <Angelyka13> im sure he would see himself having a big hand in the fall of LV & the DE's
[19:57] <Rebekia> If Ron showed up with those robes on I don't care I'd love him more for that...takes a looooooot of gumption to actually wear them out in public
[19:57] <DumbleDebbie> Ron showed in this week's chapters that he has a good sense of direction. How might that be useful?
[19:57] <Aquamarine> So this goes back to the fact that Ron wants to shine.
[19:57] <Aquamarine> Yep FW
[19:57] <Expelliarmas> but those people who have the Hogwarts accomplishments, do end up doing well for themselves
[19:57] <Pleshette> Exactly Isl
[19:57] <miss_danielle> We used to call our ginger head boy Percy. He didn't enjoy it smile
[19:57] <lupinslover> he's brave
[19:57] <Kristine> lol. :P
[19:58] <Islwyn13> but he didn't see himself successful after hogwarts
[19:58] <Islwyn13> He saw himself doing better than his brothers while at hogwarts
[19:58] <Kristine> Well, it wasn't his great desire then
[19:58] <Islwyn13> that was his deepest desire
[19:58] <PrunellaGringepith> i would love to see Ron achieve something he can really be proud of in B7
[19:58] <lupinslover> thats true it was all hogwarts stuff that he had won
[19:58] <Aquamarine> yep Prunella
[19:58] <Islwyn13> to outshine his brothers
[19:58] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, but he was only 11 at the time
[19:58] <Expelliarmas> yeah, but that was when he was 11--and his whole world was Hogwarts and doing well there
[19:58] <lupinslover> but thats also what he thought about at the time
[19:58] <Kristine> Yeah I agree Dumble
[19:58] <futureweasley> He has a need to be "Ron" and not "Bill's Brother" or ________ (fill in the member of the Weasley family)'s kid/brother
[19:58] <Aquamarine> I think he matured
[19:58] <miss_danielle> agreed expell
[19:58] <Islwyn13> exactly, FW
[19:58] <Kristine> somehow he did
[19:58] <Islwyn13> And Aquamarine
[19:58] <Islwyn13> he's matured now
[19:58] <Angelyka13> right fw
[19:59] <fawkes28> yes
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[19:59] <lupinslover> not completly though
[19:59] <Aquamarine> Yes FW
[19:59] <DumbleDebbie> right Aqua
[19:59] <Pleshette> It was all that snogging with Lavender ;)
[19:59] <Aquamarine> LOL
[19:59] <lupinslover> lol
[19:59] <miss_danielle> lol
[19:59] <lupinslover> I don't think so
[19:59] <Rebekia> Okay we all agree....what's next? :P jk
[19:59] <Angelyka13> sucked some since into his brain
[19:59] <Islwyn13> that'll maek ANYONE grow up fast..."My Sweetheart"
[19:59] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> does anyone else get the impression that as much as Ron wants to be recognised for his accomplishments the thought of success also scares the daylights out of him?
[19:59] <futureweasley> Ron serves a similar role as Hermione. While Hermione knows, well, just about everything, Ron has been Harry's guide to the magical world. Does Ron still need to serve that role? How does Ron complete the triangle [remember last week, we had a question about how each member of the trio is like one part of the necessary elements of heart, brain, and soul(?)].
[19:59] <Aquamarine> Hermione has that fiery behavior too then, we found during that charade
[19:59] <Expelliarmas> yeah, snogging with Lavendar, a great sign of *cough* maturity
[19:59] <Aislinn> I think that's a good point, ginbot
[19:59] <Kristine> Heart
[20:00] <Aquamarine> Thrashing around like eels doesn't make you *mature*!
[20:00] <Islwyn13> no, I mean, he realized how silly it all was
[20:00] <DumbleDebbie> Ron's the strategist
[20:00] <Islwyn13> that's when he began to grow up
[20:00] <miss_danielle> ohh come on, he needed a bit of tongue action
[20:00] <lupinslover> FW thats really cool
[20:00] <Islwyn13> And, yes, GFAB, I think it does scare him a little
[20:00] <Kristine> Ron is somehow the heart in the triangle
[20:00] <fawkes28> i think that ron is still the "expert" on the wizarding world he's lived in it so long and i still think can be the guide
[20:00] <Islwyn13> I agree, Kristine
[20:00] <Aquamarine> Well, I think the comment that Ginny made that he had as much expierence as a 12 year old stung
[20:00] <DumbleDebbie> he's also a bit of an emotional anchor compared to Harry
[20:00] <Islwyn13> Hermione is logic, Ron is heart, Harry is spirit
[20:00] <Islwyn13> IMHO
[20:00] <Kristine> yeah I agree Dumble
[20:00] <Aquamarine> Agreed Is.
[20:00] <lupinslover> no harry is hart
[20:00] <Expelliarmas> I think Harry may have outgrown Ron as a guide to the magical world; I hope Ron's role changes
[20:00] <lupinslover> ron is soul
[20:01] <futureweasley> I think Ron is scared of himself, and his own abilities...but he will allow himself to shine when he's comfortable with himself
[20:01] <miss_danielle> i think Ron's role does have to change
[20:01] <Rebekia> Ron has this untapped ability that just is in him. Hermione has to study and work at her skill and Ron is one that it just comes naturally. If he was encouraged a little more I think he'd shine. At the beginning when Harry needed Ron...we see a much smarter and assertive Ron.
[20:01] <Islwyn13> I'm not sure I agree with that, Lupin, why do you say so?
[20:01] <Kristine> I agree Rebekia
[20:01] <DumbleDebbie> and yes, Ron still knows things almost instinctively that the other 2 would be baffled by
[20:01] <Pleshette> Not necessarily. His knowledge may help Harry in his search for horcruxes
[20:01] <Islwyn13> it might...
[20:01] <Islwyn13> honestly, I think Krum will help there...
[20:01] <futureweasley> I don't know if Ron is soul...but I think he has a very beautiful and deep soul
[20:01] <Islwyn13> going to a school that teaches the Dark ARts
[20:01] <fawkes28> ron has logic he has already shown that with chess it is an important quality
[20:01] <Aislinn> I think his strategical strength will be more evident again in the 7th book
[20:02] <Aquamarine> Well, since Ron wants to shine, How do you guys think he will do it?
[20:02] <Islwyn13> Well, having graduated from said school
[20:02] <DumbleDebbie> Hey Pleshette! smile
[20:02] <Aquamarine> In book seven, I mean.
[20:02] <Islwyn13> I don't think taht's as important to him anymore, Aquamarine
[20:02] <futureweasley> yes Aislinn...I see that coming too
[20:02] <Pleshette> Hey Deb!
[20:02] <Islwyn13> He'll be accompanying Harry in defeating LV.
[20:02] <Kristine> I hate to say it but its possible that it'd be through sacrifice
[20:02] <Islwyn13> I don't think he'll be thining, "Oo, I think I can stand out here!"
[20:02] <Aquamarine> I agree Kristine *gulp*
[20:02] <Pleshette> No no no I refuse to think that
[20:02] <lupinslover> Islwyn it's because we are always talking about harrys love and I think Ron has the soul and Harry has the love always wanting peopleeto work together and stuff like that. I don't really know how to expplane
[20:02] <Islwyn13> actually, i agree with that, to a certain extent
[20:02] <Pleshette> Denial is a beautiful thing
[20:02] <Expelliarmas> I think the strategy will come from Harry at this point, not Ron and not Hermione; they'll have input but the fighting strategy will be Harry's
[20:02] <Islwyn13> I think he'll sacrifice himself, but not die
[20:03] <Kristine> I mean I don't think he'll sacrifice himself but I couldn't help but think od that possibility
[20:03] <fawkes28> yes i agree isl
[20:03] <Pleshette> Yes I agree Isl
[20:03] <Aislinn> I see the 3 of them working together in a way that will make the horcrux hunt more successful
[20:03] <futureweasley> I think the three of them (Ron, Hermione and Harry) would be missing something extremely vital if they were missing any one part...
[20:03] <Islwyn13> hmm, Lupin...I'll have to think on that for a bit..
[20:03] <Aquamarine> It's Harry's battle now.
[20:03] <harryfreak359> I don't think Ron will die...
[20:03] <futureweasley> I think it is a triangle of sorts...a tri-pod
[20:03] <Kristine> yeah I think that'll definitely be seen in book seven
[20:03] <Aislinn> not the fighting strategy - the hunt strategy expie
[20:03] <Kristine> Yeah, I agree Aislinn
[20:03] <harryfreak359> I am here, just multi-tasking!
[20:03] <lupinslover> sorry guys for all the type-o's
[20:03] <fawkes28> just like what they went through the first year
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[20:04] <Aquamarine> No problem!
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[20:04] <fawkes28> they balance each other
[20:04] <Pleshette> I think like in the chess match, Ron will be incapicitated in some way
[20:04] <Expelliarmas> there has been that foreshadowing of sacrifice from SS/PS hanging over Ron ...
[20:04] <Kristine> yeah, I agree fawkes
[20:04] <Islwyn13> agreed, Pleshette
[20:04] <Pleshette> And Harry will go on alone
[20:04] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> brb
[20:04] <lupinslover> ya
[20:04] <Islwyn13> And then Hermione will have to drop back for some reason
[20:04] <Kristine> yeah..
[20:04] <futureweasley> Ron's ability to strategize is going to be crucial in their approach to even setting out to find the horcruxes
[20:04] <Pleshette> To stand by her man and help him
[20:04] <Kristine> I agree fw
[20:04] <Aislinn> yes, there is a suggestion of a symmetry in the books, so the obstacle course they overcame in the PS/SS could be a hint of what is to come in the horcrux hunt
[20:04] <Islwyn13> perhaps, Pleshette...
[20:04] <Kristine> It is possible.
[20:04] <Islwyn13> but then there's Ginny...but this is about Ron...*focus, Isl*
[20:04] <futureweasley> awww, Pleshette!
[20:04] <Kristine> And I agree
[20:04] <Pleshette> Ultimately it's Harry battle
[20:05] <lupinslover> I still have this feeling that ron will try and get in the way of harry doing something stupid and then endup getting hurt
[20:05] <Aquamarine> This has been TONS of fun guys! But now I have to go *tear* early wake-up tomorrow! Hopefully I'll see you all while posting, or in another chat!
[20:05] <Islwyn13> taht oculd happen
[20:05] <fawkes28> yes, pleshette
[20:05] <Kristine> Awww..
[20:05] <Aislinn> that is possible lupins
[20:05] <lupinslover> ok bye bye
[20:05] <miss_danielle> bye Aqua
[20:05] <futureweasley> it is Harry's fight...DD painfully points that out in OotP
[20:05] <Islwyn13> Bye, Aquamarine! *hug*
[20:05] <Pleshette> Bye Aquamarine
[20:05] <Aquamarine> Bye!!!
[20:05] <Expelliarmas> dee ya aqua
[20:05] <Kristine> Bye Aqua
[20:05] <Aislinn> bye aqua
[20:05] <fawkes28> bye aqua
[20:05] <futureweasley> bye Aqua
[20:05] <Aquamarine> *hugs*
[20:05] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, that makes sense Pleshette, Ron out of commison
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[20:05] <Expelliarmas> *see
[20:05] <Rebekia> Nooooo don't gooo oh. too late
[20:05] <Islwyn13> Harry may even think he's dead, but he won't be smile
[20:05] <futureweasley> oh, NO! Isl!!!!
[20:05] <Kristine> That would cause an emotional breakdown
[20:05] <lupinslover> I hope that happens I love ron to much for him to go
[20:06] <Expelliarmas> I loved Sirius too and look what happened to him ...
[20:06] <Pleshette> That may be what motivates Harry to destroy Voldie
[20:06] <futureweasley> I couldn't handle that myself...I can't imagine what Harry would go through if that were the case!
[20:06] <Islwyn13> true, but JKR said she won't be targeting the extras, and harry has already lost DD...
[20:06] <lupinslover> it would be great writing
[20:06] <Kristine> Harry's weakeness and strength is love...
[20:06] <Rebekia> I don't want anyone in the Weasley fam. to die
[20:06] <miss_danielle> I loved Sirius as well
[20:06] <Islwyn13> unfortunately, I think one of the Weasley's will die, it just won't be Ron
[20:06] <Aislinn> me either rebekia
[20:06] <harryfreak359> except percy...I don't care about him
[20:06] <Islwyn13> Or Ginny
[20:06] <Pleshette> Me either Rebekia
[20:06] <lupinslover> "fake" death
[20:06] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, characters we love are going to die in Book 7
[20:06] <fawkes28> i agree one will die
[20:06] <Islwyn13> Percy will redeem himself, mark me ;)
[20:06] <futureweasley> agree Rebekia, but I can't really see the whole OBHWF theory happening, either
[20:06] <Expelliarmas> I vote for Percy ..
[20:06] <lupinslover> Islwyn I think so too
[20:06] <Angelyka13> i think it should be hagrid
[20:06] <Pleshette> Don't be too hard on Percy
[20:06] <Aislinn> its is likely that one will die
[20:06] <Kristine> it's possible
[20:07] <miss_danielle> I don't want Percy to redeem himself
[20:07] <Islwyn13> eek, OBHWF?
[20:07] <miss_danielle> cop out
[20:07] * Pleshette ducks from Percy-haters
[20:07] <Kristine> LOL
[20:07] <lupinslover> ok guys your going to hate me for this ....but I don't like H/G
[20:07] <Rebekia> What's OBHWF?
[20:07] <DumbleDebbie> what's OBHWF???
[20:07] <futureweasley> sorry, One Big Happy Weasley Family
[20:07] <Aislinn> its not going to be based on popularity! biggrin
[20:07] <Islwyn13> why a cop out?
[20:07] <Islwyn13> ah, ok
[20:07] <Pleshette> :)
[20:07] <Rebekia> Oh...well we already have a mangled Bill....
[20:07] <Islwyn13> agreed, they will be harmed somehow, they will take a loss
[20:07] <DumbleDebbie> I'm afraid it's Molly that will die
[20:07] <futureweasley> There are just so many of them...they are going to sustain a loss
[20:07] <Islwyn13> but he's survived
[20:07] <Kristine> lol.
[20:07] <Rebekia> Maybe Charlie will kick it..he's not really someoen we're attached to
[20:07] <futureweasley> and it will be huge
[20:07] <lupinslover> awww
[20:07] <miss_danielle> because, not all the Weasleys can be goody two shoes, its unrealistic
[20:07] <fawkes28> hey hey what happened to the ron talk????
[20:07] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Nope smile not listening!
[20:07] <DumbleDebbie> that would rip the whole family
[20:07] <Kristine> I mwondered and googled it. It means One Big Happy Weasley Family
[20:08] <Islwyn13> Oh, yeah, Ron...*focus...*
[20:08] <Pleshette> I would sob my eyes out if Molly dies sad
[20:08] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Yep
[20:08] <Aislinn> the family has been under attack for the whole series - maybe she feels she has abused them enough biggrin
[20:08] <Islwyn13> agreed, Pleshette
[20:08] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, Plesh, that's exactly whi I'm afraid it'll happen
[20:08] <Kristine> lol.
[20:08] <Expelliarmas> Somebody grab the wheel we're heading for a ditch!
[20:08] <Pleshette> I'm blocking my ears too gfab
[20:08] <Islwyn13> I think Arthur is a more likely candidate, unfortunately
[20:08] <futureweasley> I hope so, Ann!
[20:08] <Kristine> Not really too abused lol.
[20:08] <Islwyn13> But RON, yes, RON!
[20:08] <miss_danielle> my last off topic tangent comment (well maybe) Remus Can't Die!
[20:08] <DumbleDebbie> but I think Ron will live
[20:08] <lupinslover> I don't want any of them to die but if JK is going to make it realist she is going to have to kill people, And I know she will
[20:08] <Pleshette> Arthur already had a close call
[20:08] <miss_danielle> needed to let that out
[20:09] <miss_danielle> but anyway RON - hero or zero?
[20:09] <Islwyn13> Remus might, though if he does, I'll throw the book across the room...
[20:09] <Islwyn13> and I consider books sacred smile
[20:09] <Kristine> Yeah I agree lupin
[20:09] <Rebekia> RON! ;)
[20:09] <Aislinn> 3 of them have almost died,and another was ravaged by a werewolf - I consider that suffering, kristine
[20:09] <miss_danielle> il probably run into the street on a full moon howling
[20:09] <Rebekia> Okay what's our next question?
[20:09] <Islwyn13> but they've all been close calls...
[20:09] <Kristine> It wouldn't be realistic if a lot of them would live throuhg it
[20:09] <Islwyn13> They'll take a true hit
[20:09] <fawkes28> i do not think ron will die by a werewolf smile
[20:09] <futureweasley> We know from Jo that if Ron survives the series he won't become a teacher. When Harry expressed an interest in becoming an Auror, so did Ron. What are some careers you can invision for Ron?
[20:09] <futureweasley> We know from Jo that if Ron survives the series he won't become a teacher. When Harry expressed an interest in becoming an Auror, so did Ron. What are some careers you can invision for Ron?
[20:09] <Pleshette> Quidditch coach!
[20:09] <futureweasley> gotta love lag...sorry about that!
[20:10] <lupinslover> ok guys I LOVED talking with you all but I have to go sad I don't want to but life is calling me. Talk to you all soon!!!!! BYE!!
[20:10] <Rebekia> I see him in the Ministry...
[20:10] <Expelliarmas> Well, he won't be doing anything which involves magical creatures
[20:10] <Angelyka13> divination at the (what was the sweet shop called?)
[20:10] <futureweasley> thanks for coming by lupins
[20:10] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I can totally see Ron following in his father's footsteps
[20:10] <Pleshette> lol
[20:10] <Aislinn> bye lupinslover
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[20:10] <fawkes28> i dont think he'll be an auror
[20:10] <Kristine> lol, I've always seen Ron taking a Quidditch Career
[20:10] <Aislinn> I don't either fawkes
[20:10] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> something in muggle relations
[20:10] <Rebekia> He'll end up working for Hermione on S.P.E.W dept in the MoM
[20:10] <futureweasley> maybe he will become a comic strip writer
[20:10] <Expelliarmas> I don't see him reading tea leaves, either
[20:10] <Islwyn13> LOL, Rebekia
[20:10] <Aislinn> for some reason, I see him becoming a healer - don't know why
[20:10] <Pleshette> He's a good stategist so I think it will be Quidditch related
[20:10] <futureweasley> about the adventures of a boy named "Harry Potter"
[20:10] <Rebekia> he's actually really good at reading those tea leaves...lol!)
[20:11] <fawkes28> i could see that ais
[20:11] <Kristine> lol fw
[20:11] * Expelliarmas has to go *gasp* teach a class
[20:11] <Pleshette> Interestin Ais
[20:11] <Aislinn> bye expie!
[20:11] <futureweasley> Bye Expie!!
[20:11] <Islwyn13> bye, Expie! *hug*
[20:11] <Expelliarmas> see you all on Saturday
[20:11] <Kristine> awww bye!
[20:11] <Pleshette> Oo good luck Expel
[20:11] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Bye Exp
[20:11] <miss_danielle> bye Expell
[20:11] <Aislinn> maybe because he is the heart of the trio
[20:11] <Islwyn13> I'm not sure we've really seen enough to kow what ron would want to do...
[20:11] <Expelliarmas> my poor students ...
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[20:11] <miss_danielle> lol
[20:11] <fawkes28> what about working at the dept of mysteries?
[20:11] <futureweasley> does Ron have the marks to become a healer?
[20:11] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Or he can become a househusband
[20:11] <Islwyn13> yes! SEe? The HEART of the trio!
[20:11] <Kristine> lol!
[20:11] <Angelyka13> perhaps a coach in MLQ
[20:11] <riefvly> Ithink he will play quidditch.
[20:12] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Hermione would be the...
[20:12] <Rebekia> Ron loves Quidditch and he loves what's his faces job...the guy who scammed the Weasleys from gold there
[20:12] <futureweasley> stay at home dad
[20:12] <Islwyn13> househusband...uh, no! lol
[20:12] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> breadwinner
[20:12] <Pleshette> Official Hogwarts food sampler?
[20:12] <Islwyn13> lol
[20:12] <fawkes28> oh i got it i could see him being an annoucer for quidditch
[20:12] <Kristine> I couldn't see the idea of Ron being a househusband
[20:12] <Aislinn> lol, pleshette!
[20:12] <futureweasley> while his wife, the Minister of Magic, makes their money
[20:12] <Islwyn13> no, again, invisible
[20:12] <Kristine> Something laidback and fun..
[20:12] <Pleshette> Lol!
[20:12] <adamgryff> lol pleshette
[20:12] <Islwyn13> not something he'd want
[20:12] <Kristine> Quidditch is the most probably
[20:12] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I can see Hermione becoming headmaster
[20:12] <DumbleDebbie> Quiddtch coach is good, he could use his strategic skills
[20:12] <Angelyka13> strategist... quidditch coach??
[20:12] <Kristine> yeah
[20:12] <futureweasley> no, definitely not...but a very important job, none the less!
[20:13] <Kristine> Or a Pro Quidditch player
[20:13] <Pleshette> Hermione - transfiguration professor
[20:13] <Kristine> He always loved the Cannons
[20:13] <Islwyn13> he definitely has the temper...ament to be a coach
[20:13] <Kristine> Yeah, I agree Ples
[20:13] <Islwyn13> agreed, Pleshette
[20:13] <Angelyka13> ... towel boy for the chuddly cannons ( i could have the name wrong)
[20:13] <Kristine> LOL
[20:13] <Islwyn13> And Neville, Herbology professor
[20:13] <Rebekia> What's that guys name you guys?! The one who hosted the Triwizard Tournament
[20:13] <Islwyn13> That one I'm sure of
[20:13] <Aislinn> Ludo Bagman
[20:13] <Islwyn13> Ludo Bagman
[20:13] <Kristine> Bagman?
[20:13] <Pleshette> I think she'll become an animagus in book 7
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[20:13] <futureweasley> Barty Crouch
[20:13] <futureweasley> ?
[20:14] <Rebekia> Ron's going to take his job! YES! THANK YOU!
[20:14] <Rebekia> No ludo
[20:14] <Kristine> Oh!!
[20:14] <Rebekia> thank you...sorry brain fart
[20:14] <Kristine> The head of the department of sports something
[20:14] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL
[20:14] <Pleshette> brb
[20:14] <Islwyn13> yeah, he could do that
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[20:14] <riefvly> yeah
[20:14] <fawkes28> or maybe ron will open his own store of quidditch supplies
[20:14] <futureweasley> I think he could definitely play quidditch, then pull a Dion Sanders and commentate
[20:14] <Islwyn13> nah, only one store per family
[20:14] <Kristine> thats possible fw
[20:14] <Aislinn> or a sweet shop!
[20:15] <Islwyn13> only ONE store per family! Jeesh! smile
[20:15] <futureweasley> lol Isl
[20:15] <Kristine> I agree Is!
[20:15] <Kristine> :P
[20:15] <fawkes28> whose rule is that?
[20:15] <fawkes28> lol
[20:15] <futureweasley> Ron is supposed to be Harry's best friend. How can they sometimes go for weeks barely speaking when they have a disagreement? Does this sound more like something two girls would do rather than two teenaged boys? And what is it about their friendship that has kept them from totally drifting apart after these disagreements?
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[20:15] <Islwyn13> Mine..
[20:15] <Islwyn13> I just made it up, it's now law ;)
[20:15] <Aislinn> yeah - who says only one shopkeeper allowed?
[20:15] <fawkes28> glad we got that cleared up
[20:15] <fawkes28> smile
[20:15] <miss_danielle> it is more girlie
[20:15] <Islwyn13> they only did that once, though, right?
[20:15] <Kristine> Jealousy
[20:15] <Kristine> And thick-headedness.. :P
[20:15] <Islwyn13> Ron and Hermione are the ones that go for weeks frequently without talking
[20:15] <DumbleDebbie> sounds like normal teenagers
[20:15] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> totally girlie
[20:16] <futureweasley> I think teenaged boys are the biggest teenaged girls you will ever meet
[20:16] <Aislinn> it does seem to be more of a girl's reaction
[20:16] <fawkes28> i think they fight like brothers rather than friends
[20:16] <Kristine> I agree fw.
[20:16] <Islwyn13> LOL, FW
[20:16] <miss_danielle> fw - i could not agree more
[20:16] <Islwyn13> agreed, Fawkes
[20:16] <Rebekia> It's the whole Alpha Male complex those two sometimes battle with in their friendship
[20:16] <futureweasley> they are worse about gossip, worse about fighting, worse about everything
[20:16] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> both Harry and Ron have a great sense of pride and that's what keeps them from speaking for weeks
[20:16] <Kristine> yeah..
[20:16] <miss_danielle> and they sulk more
[20:16] <Aislinn> good point, ginbot
[20:16] <Islwyn13> Am I wrong, though? that they only did that in GoF?
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[20:17] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> each recognises what theyve done wrong, but out of pride, can't admit it until there's a crisis to bring them back together
[20:17] <Islwyn13> When Ron felt betrayed by Harry?
[20:17] <Aislinn> that was their biggest falling out
[20:17] <Islwyn13> another reason I think betrayal may come back up
[20:17] <Kristine> yeah
[20:17] <futureweasley> I think they get annoyed with each other and just leave each other alone...
[20:17] <Aislinn> there were briefer periods in OotP, with Harry's anger
[20:17] <Islwyn13> but when?
[20:17] <Kristine> Silence will take place.
[20:17] <Islwyn13> Oh
[20:17] <futureweasley> Lavender
[20:17] <Kristine> I think Harry matured.
[20:17] <futureweasley> for one
[20:17] <Islwyn13> Ok, yeah, but Harry needed space to cool off then
[20:17] <riefvly> I think that both of them are jelous of each other, Harry of Ron's family and Ron of Harry's fortune and fame
[20:17] <Angelyka13> well... if you cant say anything nice...
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[20:17] <Kristine> I wouldn't think they'd remain as how they were in GoF
[20:17] <miss_danielle> Harry's anger - lol
[20:17] <Aislinn> and in HBP, when he and Hermione didn't agree with Harry's Draco obsession
[20:17] <Islwyn13> but they didn't not speak for weeks
[20:18] <futureweasley> agreed rief...I think they both have something the other would like to have
[20:18] <Islwyn13> they just sort of blew Harry off when he went on about Draco
[20:18] <fawkes28> it's hard when you live with people and eat with them and go to class with them...think about how many fights you got into with your roommate
[20:18] <Aislinn> no, just a couple of hours
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[20:18] <fawkes28> i know i did
[20:18] <futureweasley> Harry wants Ron's stability, and Ron wants Harry's notoriaty
[20:18] <Kristine> Agreed fw
[20:18] <Islwyn13> Oh, I don't know...
[20:18] <riefvly> agreed fw
[20:18] <Angelyka13> if only Ron knew he was the richer of the two *tear*
[20:18] <Islwyn13> Ron feels overshadowed by Harry..
[20:18] <Islwyn13> he's not friends with Harry because Harry's famous
[20:19] <Rebekia> Yeah they should've....I knew Draco had something up with the way OotP ended but anyways what are we talking about with Ron?
[20:19] <Islwyn13> If anything, that would have kept them apart
[20:19] <Islwyn13> someone else to compete with
[20:19] <futureweasley> it almost did keep them apart
[20:19] <Islwyn13> in GoF, yes
[20:19] <Islwyn13> But again, I think that's more because Ron felt betrayed
[20:19] <riefvly> yeah
[20:19] <Kristine> yeah but what they fought about in GoF was something quite immature.. I think..
[20:19] <futureweasley> lied to and hoodwinked
[20:19] <Islwyn13> He thought Harry had found a way to make himself more famous, and didn't let Ron in on it
[20:19] <miss_danielle> *really needs to read GOF again*
[20:19] <fawkes28> it goes down to pride again
[20:20] <Angelyka13> which made me wonder... what exactly did Ron think of Harry to believe that Harry would betray him like that
[20:20] <Islwyn13> god point
[20:20] <Islwyn13> I wondered that as well
[20:20] <Islwyn13> *good*
[20:20] <Kristine> I think it was more on jealousy but he found himself thinking like that
[20:20] <futureweasley> In Book 3, Hagrid calls Ron to task for putting his anger over his missing rat before his friendship with Hermione. Is this another incidence of Ron being his stubborn, unforgiving self or could Hermione have done something to avert the fight between them? How is this disagreement similar or different from ones between Ron and Harry?
[20:20] <Islwyn13> again, i think it was because of Betrayal
[20:20] <Angelyka13> I think they were both on the side of wrong
[20:20] <Islwyn13> He felt Hermione was unconcerned with what her cat was doing to his rat
[20:21] <Islwyn13> felt that Hermione cared more for her cat than him, if you ask me smile
[20:21] <futureweasley> yes, Isl...and in turn, made it a personal thing
[20:21] <Kristine> I think it has a fair bit of Ron's stubborness
[20:21] <Aislinn> I think both cases - GoF and this one - are due to his feelings of insecurity taking over
[20:21] <Islwyn13> and Hermione's
[20:21] <Aislinn> and making him overreact
[20:21] <Islwyn13> true
[20:21] <fawkes28> i think that ron has a hard time, developmentally, of putting himself in another person's shoes
[20:21] <futureweasley> he equated her disregard for Scabbers as a disregard for him
[20:21] <Islwyn13> I think Hermione was the more stubborn of the two in PoA, though
[20:21] <Aislinn> right, FW
[20:21] <miss_danielle> i think that Hermione expects Ron to fix it all himself. Shes "perfect" so she thinks everyone else should be. When maybe Ron needs a nudge in the right direction
[20:21] <Islwyn13> yes, FW, taht's what I think, too
[20:21] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think we see a streak of stubbornness throughout the Weasely clan - it's an inherited trait
[20:21] <Kristine> because of the fireblot?
[20:22] <Aislinn> I did too ISL
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[20:22] <harryfreak359> Yes they all are stubborn
[20:22] <Islwyn13> true
[20:22] <Kristine> yeah I agree as well
[20:22] <harryfreak359> every last one
[20:22] <Aislinn> part of being from the weasel clan!
[20:22] <futureweasley> Ron was wondering in POA if Hermione was going to stand up for him like she did for Harry
[20:22] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Yep
[20:22] <Aislinn> tenacious
[20:22] <harryfreak359> I would do well there tongue
[20:22] <Angelyka13> isn't being stubborn a red head trait? (or is that the stereotypical view)
[20:23] <futureweasley> and he continues to question that through the remainder of the books to date
[20:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> um
[20:23] <Islwyn13> Oo, I just wondered something...if Ron might do something stupid because he, again, thinks he's being betrayed by Harry or Hermione...
[20:23] <Kristine> stereotypical probably.
[20:23] <Islwyn13> He's doubted both of them before
[20:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> yes, why yes it is biggrin
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[20:23] <harryfreak359> I am extremely stubborn, and I am not red-headed
[20:23] <fawkes28> i hope not isl
[20:23] <Aislinn> lol
[20:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I am, and I can tell you..
[20:23] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL
[20:23] <Rebekia> Hermione's friendship with Harry is faaaar more openly loving than her intrigue with Ron. Perhpas because she's afraid of showing Ron her true colours?
[20:23] <Islwyn13> well, I hope not, too, but it would make a kind of sense
[20:23] <harryfreak359> actually that is what I am afraid of Isl
[20:23] <Kristine> I agree Rebekia
[20:23] <Aislinn> I think that is true rebekia
[20:24] <harryfreak359> yeah rebekia
[20:24] <Islwyn13> well, sisterly love is less threatening, easier to display
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[20:24] <futureweasley> I don't think Hermione has every had a problem showing Ron her "true colors"
[20:24] <Kristine> Like Ginny was shy with Harry
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[20:24] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> agree Rebekia
[20:24] <Aislinn> I'm hopeful that he has worked past those doubts, Isl
[20:24] <harryfreak359> hey artlady!
[20:24] <futureweasley> he could be colorblind and see that she's purple
[20:24] <futureweasley> hi Artlady
[20:24] <Islwyn13> neither Ron nor Hermioine really want to be the first to admit they have feelings for each otehr
[20:24] <artlady> Hey all!!
[20:24] <fawkes28> hey artlady!
[20:24] <Kristine> hey there, artlady.
[20:24] <Aislinn> hi artlady!
[20:24] <miss_danielle> maybe shes mean to Ron because she wants him to love her for all her annoying ways too lol
[20:24] <futureweasley> agreed Isl...
[20:24] <Angelyka13> The whole issue is Hermione doesnt spell things out for them... even though she knows they are very very bad at picking up hints
[20:25] <Islwyn13> quite true
[20:25] <Islwyn13> wants him to read her mind
[20:25] <Islwyn13> LIke the speech she gave to Harry about what Cho was feeling in OotP
[20:25] <Kristine> yeah
[20:25] <Aislinn> sadly, not uncommon in relationships
[20:25] <futureweasley> but I don't think we are really going to see them "getting together"...because would happen "off-page" and not from Harry's POV
[20:25] <Islwyn13> Well, really, Harry, don't you KNOW?
[20:25] <harryfreak359> yeah exactly Islwyn
[20:25] <Kristine> It's possible Fw
[20:25] <Aislinn> we'll see some of it, FW
[20:25] <harryfreak359> girls are sooo weird...
[20:25] <Islwyn13> men need a script, or they're lost smile
[20:25] <fawkes28> true fw
[20:25] <Angelyka13> harry seems to pick up on their interactions
[20:25] <Aislinn> as he will be around them a lot
[20:25] <Islwyn13> gotta give them ALL their lines
[20:26] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> me either F/W - I actually hope they don't at least not during the series
[20:26] <harryfreak359> and men are clueless
[20:26] <Kristine> yeah I agree Is
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[20:26] <Angelyka13> or the air that they have around them
[20:26] <riefvly> true
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[20:26] <Rebekia> Ron isn't good with um..uncovering things. The only reason he goes for Lavendar is because she threw herself on him..and than he was like "Oh....she likes me" he must've known Hermione did.....just because of his reaction with seeing her when they were caught snogging
[20:26] <Islwyn13> I hate to leave, but it's dinner time sad
[20:26] <Islwyn13> Thanks guys!
[20:26] <fawkes28> bye isl
[20:26] <Islwyn13> *hugs*
[20:26] <harryfreak359> bye Islwyn!
[20:26] <Aislinn> bye Isl!
[20:26] <Kristine> Awww.. Bye!
[20:26] <Angelyka13> bye
[20:26] <futureweasley> bye Isl
[20:26] <riefvly> bye isl
[20:26] <futureweasley> see you in the study
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[20:27] <fawkes28> he cant make the first move
[20:27] <Kristine> I think Ron is clueless on what to do.
[20:27] <Aislinn> I think that was coming from inside him - a hope - more than a belief that Hermione liked him in that way, rebekia
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[20:27] <artlady> Yeah, but that's kinda sweet in a way
[20:27] <harryfreak359> I think Ron is completely clueless
[20:27] <futureweasley> How did you feel when Ron was made a prefect over Harry in Book 5? The books are written from the perspective of Harry, so did you find yourself - like Harry - feeling a little robbed? Did this "turning of things on their head" help you empathize a little more with all of Ron's incidences of jealousy in the series?
[20:28] <harryfreak359> My response, "NOOOOOOO!"
[20:28] <Angelyka13> im sorry but i have only read book 5 once because I Hated Harry
[20:28] <Kristine> I think I felt empathizing with Ron..
[20:28] <fawkes28> i felt a little disappointed i expected harry to get it
[20:28] <Aislinn> I admit, I was surprised that Ron got the badge
[20:28] <riefvly> it was fair
[20:28] <artlady> nah, I'm glad he got a little something
[20:28] <futureweasley> really, Aislinn?
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[20:28] <artlady> his always second fiddle
[20:28] <futureweasley> that surprises me
[20:28] <Angelyka13> I was surprised any of them got it really
[20:28] <Aislinn> yes - I really thought that Harry would get it
[20:28] <Rebekia> It made me realize that Ron and Harry are equals....and that someone in Hogwarts had finally seen Ron for who he is and what talent he has...and I had forgotten
[20:28] <Aquamarine> Hello again everyone!
[20:28] <Kristine> yeah, it's surprising.
[20:28] <harryfreak359> Well I don't think he is a Prefect
[20:28] <fawkes28> it did make it easier to understand how ron feels when he is jealous of harry
[20:29] <futureweasley> I knew Hermione would get it...how could she not?
[20:29] <harryfreak359> wb Aqua!
[20:29] <fawkes28> hey aqua
[20:29] <Angelyka13> i mean that was DD basically saying go ahead break rules... as long as it works out
[20:29] <Kristine> Well, there was a reason why Dumbledore didn't make Harry prefect
[20:29] <artlady> Hey, aqua!
[20:29] <Aislinn> and Dumbledore as much as admitted he would have given it too him, but felt he already had to much "to be getting on with"
[20:29] <harryfreak359> yep
[20:29] <fawkes28> i know i cried at that part ais
[20:29] <Aislinn> me too
[20:29] <futureweasley> another example of DD's bad judgment...but that's another discussion
[20:29] <Kristine> yeah..
[20:29] <artlady> I think ron can use the ego boost
[20:30] <Aquamarine> so were discussing why Harry didn't get prefect?
[20:30] <futureweasley> Ron deserved it
[20:30] <Kristine> But it proves that Dumbledore
[20:30] <Kristine> isn't always right
[20:30] <harryfreak359> Why ron got it really
[20:30] <Aislinn> I think that it was good for Ron
[20:30] <fawkes28> ron did deserve it
[20:30] <Aquamarine> Oh, oke
[20:30] <futureweasley> he did...he works very hard...and I think Ron actually "needed" it
[20:30] <Kristine> yeah I agree Ais
[20:30] <Aislinn> so I don't see it as bad judgement on DD's part
[20:30] <Aquamarine> Yea, Ron deserved that
[20:30] <artlady> I agree, future
[20:30] <futureweasley> for once, Ron got to feel like he "won"...all by himself...without help
[20:30] <harryfreak359> Well I think Ron needed it, but I don't think he was the best choice for the job
[20:30] <Rebekia> I think it was a smart choice. Harry doesn't need to worry about a bunch of underage kids
[20:31] <Angelyka13> i just didnt think any of them were prefect material..
[20:31] <Kristine> he did feel jealous somehow
[20:31] <fawkes28> i think DD not only has been helping harry all these years but he is also helping ron and hermione because DD knows they must go on the journey with harry and help him so i think DD was helping boost his confidence
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[20:31] <futureweasley> that's just the thing...Harry DOES worry about all those teenaged kids...and everyone else in the world...lol
[20:31] <Kristine> yeah
[20:31] <artlady> I don't always pick the best choice for jobs in my classes. I often pick who needs it
[20:31] <Aislinn> who would you have chosen, harryfreak?
[20:31] <Aislinn> and angel?
[20:31] <Angelyka13> maybe.. fawkes
[20:31] <Angelyka13> someone else... whats wrong with seamus... dean...
[20:32] <gryffindelle> hi again
[20:32] <harryfreak359> uh...actually only hermione is the right one for the job
[20:32] <Kristine> yeah...
[20:32] <Angelyka13> someone that was not a focal point of constant danger... and distractions... and disappearances
[20:32] <Rebekia> Yea Harry worries about them long-term and Ron's job was to make sure they didn't get lost or something on school grounds
[20:32] <artlady> I pick Harryfreak for Prefect
[20:32] <harryfreak359> wb gryff
[20:32] <artlady> heehee
[20:32] <Aislinn> I think that's an excellent point fawkes
[20:32] <harryfreak359> aww...thank artlady *hugs*
[20:32] <gryffindelle> whats the question?
[20:32] <fawkes28> thanks
[20:32] <Aislinn> one of the boys had to get it though
[20:32] <Kristine> Thinking about it, wasn't the others considered for the job?
[20:32] <Pleshette> Hi artlady! smile
[20:32] <Kristine> I mean we aren't only limited with Harry and Ron
[20:33] <futureweasley> How did you feel when Ron was made a prefect over Harry in Book 5? The books are written from the perspective of Harry, so did you find yourself - like Harry - feeling a little robbed? Did this "turning of things on their head" help you empathize a little more with all of Ron's incidences of jealousy in the series?
[20:33] <Angelyka13> i tend to think outside the box... i get a little irrate even when the main characters have sooo much attention
[20:33] <artlady> Hey, Pleshette!
[20:33] <fawkes28> it would have been even more interesting if neville got prefect
[20:33] <artlady> that's true fawkes
[20:33] <gryffindelle> oh, no, I think that it was good for him, I was really happy
[20:33] <Pleshette> I was actually glad for Ron
[20:33] <artlady> that would've been nice
[20:33] <Aislinn> neville would have been fitting for it by the end of the book, definitely
[20:33] <fawkes28> but then i guess ron would feel really bad
[20:33] <futureweasley> me too...Ron's reaction was priceless...
[20:33] <Aquamarine> Agreed FW!
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[20:33] <harryfreak359> hehe, it was
[20:33] <artlady> he is humble
[20:34] <gryffindelle> hi carpe
[20:34] <Aislinn> but I was glad for Ron too, and do think that it benefitted not only him, but the trio as a whole
[20:34] <futureweasley> something he would have never thought he was capable of achieving...and it was there, in his hand...tangible for the first time
[20:34] <Pleshette> That's one of my favorite HP moments
[20:34] <Aquamarine> Nice username carpe!
[20:34] <CarpeDiem> Why thank you smile
[20:34] <futureweasley> hi carpe!
[20:34] <Aislinn> hi Carpe!
[20:34] <Aquamarine> Good way to put it FW!
[20:34] <harryfreak359> hello carpe
[20:34] <CarpeDiem> Good evening all...sorry I'm late!
[20:34] <fawkes28> it's like the mirror of erised in some way came true for ron
[20:34] <artlady> I know I'm gonna type carpe's name wrong...
[20:34] <Pleshette> Molly gushing over Ron and the twins reaction, too funny
[20:34] <harryfreak359> lol, artlady
[20:34] <futureweasley> yes, Fawkes...exactly!
[20:35] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:35] <Kristine> Hello Carpe
[20:35] <futureweasley> "What are we, the next door neighbors?"
[20:35] <Pleshette> Hi carpe
[20:35] <futureweasley> My favorite line in the series
[20:35] <Aislinn> I loved that line!
[20:35] <harryfreak359> I love that Future!
[20:35] <Kristine> Agreed Ples
[20:35] <Pleshette> Hee hee
[20:35] <harryfreak359> hehe soooo great
[20:35] <Aquamarine> I liked the part where hermione ran in and saw Harry holding the badge, and then found out it was actually Ron.
[20:35] <artlady> that's a good tshirt
[20:35] <futureweasley> so flaming clever, that go is
[20:35] <Kristine> 'What are we, next door neighbors?' < I love this line
[20:35] <harryfreak359> LOL
[20:35] <fawkes28> lol artlady
[20:35] <Aquamarine> I love that line too!
[20:35] <Pleshette> I so want to see that scene in the movie but am afraid it will be cut
[20:36] <Rebekia> whoa i'm lost...
[20:36] <futureweasley> yes, Artlady...that would be an AWESOME LL t-shirt!!
[20:36] <artlady> noooo
[20:36] <Kristine> Awww... hopefully not
[20:36] <Aquamarine> NO!
[20:36] <Aquamarine> please no@
[20:36] <harryfreak359> NOOOO!
[20:36] <artlady> they wouldn't cut that
[20:36] <Aislinn> we're talking about when Ron got his prefect badge rebekia
[20:36] <harryfreak359> that is classic fred and george
[20:36] <Kristine> so true
[20:36] <riefvly> yeah
[20:36] <harryfreak359> they can't cut that
[20:36] <Aquamarine> Actually, the movies cut out a lot of funny fred george moments...
[20:36] <Aquamarine> sad
[20:36] <fawkes28> i know
[20:36] <Pleshette> I love Hermione's reaction too when she thinks its Harry at firs
[20:36] <artlady> they really do , don't they?
[20:36] <gryffindelle> my favorite line is when McGonagall tells peeves that the chandelier unscrews the other way
[20:36] <harryfreak359> yes I know, it has always made me mad
[20:37] <Pleshette> t
[20:37] <Aquamarine> Me too Pleshette!
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[20:37] <Aquamarine> Yeah grff!
[20:37] <futureweasley> At the end of Half-Blood Prince, Ron and Hermione both told Harry that they were going to go with him to the Dursley's, and on his quest to find the Horcruxes. How do you think Ron will behave at the Dursley's? How do you feel Ron will be useful on this journey?
[20:37] <harryfreak359> poor ron though
[20:37] <Kristine> I think he'll somehow be cold towards the Dursleys
[20:37] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think Ron will stand up to them
[20:37] <harryfreak359> I would love to see Ron at the Dursley's that will be funny, I think
[20:37] <Aislinn> I think Ron may offer his comic relief at the Dursleys
[20:37] <Aquamarine> Ron will be the loyal friend still, the support system, but I think he will also be a big part of their journey
[20:37] <Angelyka13> I can imagine him setting off some muggle device
[20:37] <artlady> He will be so protective of Harry
[20:37] <gryffindelle> I think that they'll all just ignore the Dursleys
[20:38] <riefvly> He will have his moment
[20:38] <fawkes28> i think ron will be overwhelmed by the "muggleness"
[20:38] <futureweasley> I think Ron is going to jinx the snot out of Dudley
[20:38] <Kristine> yeah I agree Ais
[20:38] <harryfreak359> hehe Future
[20:38] <artlady> yea, future!
[20:38] <gryffindelle> lol fw
[20:38] <Pleshette> lol
[20:38] <harryfreak359> I would if I was ron....
[20:38] <Kristine> lol.
[20:38] <fawkes28> oh yes he will be of age hehe
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[20:38] <harryfreak359> if he does, my respect for him will grow imensely
[20:38] <gryffindelle> hi christina
[20:38] <Rebekia> Maybe Ron will take care of Vernon so Harry and Hermione can corner--er I mean question -- Petunia
[20:38] <Angelyka13> wow better late than never huh chris
[20:38] <futureweasley> I see them all trying to avoid each other
[20:38] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I think Ron has wanted a have at at Dudders for ages
[20:38] <christina_158> hi guys
[20:39] <harryfreak359> hello christina!
[20:39] <futureweasley> hi christina
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[20:39] <artlady> dudders needs to experience eating slugs
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[20:39] <gryffindelle> hi riddle
[20:39] <fawkes28> i think the dursleys deserve it
[20:39] <riefvly> hi chris
[20:39] <Riddle2> =)
[20:39] <Kristine> But what did Dudley do to Ron?
[20:39] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL artlady
[20:39] <Pleshette> Definitelly
[20:39] <harryfreak359> ROFL artlady
[20:39] <futureweasley> maybe Hermione will finally show Ron how to properly use a fellytone
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[20:40] <gryffindelle> hurt Harry, kristine
[20:40] <fawkes28> i wonder what ron with think of the telelvision
[20:40] <gryffindelle> what's rofl?
[20:40] <Aquamarine> LOL FW
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[20:40] <Kristine> Oh, I was thinking something personal. But yeah defintely, Ron will be cold towards them.
[20:40] <Aquamarine> rolling on the floor laughing, gryff
[20:40] <futureweasley> can you see Dudley being just mortified that Ron and Hermione are in his home?
[20:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Fawkes - that would be priceless to see
[20:40] <harryfreak359> Rolling On the Floor Laughing gryff
[20:40] <Rebekia> Yeah i don't think Ron really cares about Dudley much...I don't really care about Dudley much lol
[20:40] <gryffindelle> oh, thanx
[20:40] <artlady> a little louder than LOL gryff
[20:40] <Kristine> I can see the Dursleys freaking out of Harry having his friends brought into their home
[20:40] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I can see Ron like a toddler with their first experience - looking around the tv to see how the tiny people got in
[20:40] <Aquamarine> I just want to know what he same with the dementors... (dudley i mean)
[20:41] <harryfreak359> me too aqua
[20:41] <fawkes28> he'll probably try to magic them out
[20:41] <futureweasley> I think it will be Ron's reaction to whatever Petunia's hiding that will be worth watching
[20:41] <gryffindelle> yeah, aqua
[20:41] <Pleshette> Maybe he'll swipe a screwdriver for Arthur
[20:41] <Angelyka13> At the end of Half-Blood Prince, Ron and Hermione both told Harry that th
[20:41] <Angelyka13> At the end of Half-Blood Prince, Ron and Hermione both told Harry that they were going to go with him to the Dursley's, and on his quest to find the Horcruxes. How do you think Ron will behave at the Dursley's? How do you feel Ron will be useful on this journey?
[20:41] <Angelyka13> wow... i didnt mean to do that
[20:41] <Angelyka13> but there you go christina
[20:41] <Kristine> Ron's usefulness...
[20:41] <artlady> nice skills angely!
[20:41] <fawkes28> lol i was just thinking of ron with a blender
[20:41] <futureweasley> he will keep Harry entertained
[20:41] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL fawkes
[20:41] <futureweasley> lol fawkes
[20:41] <Aquamarine> Hehe :P Pleshette'
[20:42] <Kristine> lol. :P
[20:42] <artlady> LOL fwkes
[20:42] <futureweasley> he'll lose a finger if he's not careful!
[20:42] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> it will be a place of wonder for him - that's for sure
[20:42] <fawkes28> it could be an interesting chapter
[20:42] <Kristine> Raiding the Dursleys for Muggle things..
[20:42] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:42] <futureweasley> Weasley cannot blend a thing
[20:42] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> he'll send Aunt Petunia
[20:42] <fawkes28> we all need some laughter before the end
[20:42] <CarpeDiem> Agreed there GfaB - sooo many comedic moments to be had! smile
[20:42] <futureweasley> he never puts the berries in
[20:42] <artlady> he could spend hours with a light switch
[20:42] <harryfreak359> ROFL future
[20:42] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL - oh the potential!
[20:42] <futureweasley> that's why the Dursley's all sing...
[20:42] <Kristine> LOL
[20:42] <fawkes28> and then forgetting the top to the blender
[20:42] <Angelyka13> im picturing too much soap in an appliance
[20:42] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:42] <fawkes28> priceless
[20:42] <Rebekia> I've been waiting six books for Petunia to finally show her more "sister" side and talk a lil about Lily...i'm hoping it comes out in that chapt. but sorry this is about RON
[20:42] <Aquamarine> WEASLEY IS OUR KINGGG!
[20:43] <riefvly> weasly is our king
[20:43] <Aquamarine> ROFL Fawkes!
[20:43] <fawkes28> he cannot work anything!!!
[20:43] <Pleshette> :D
[20:43] <gryffindelle> lol fw
[20:43] <Kristine> Yeah
[20:43] <Kristine> lol.. :P
[20:43] <christina_158> I foresee a lot of broken appliances at the Dursley's
[20:43] <fawkes28> but we still love him
[20:43] <Kristine> That's a nice filk.. :P
[20:43] <harryfreak359> LOL
[20:43] <Aquamarine> Hehe... Ron's breaking spree
[20:43] <futureweasley> thanks for that mental image, fawkes...that will carry me right up until I'm actually reading the first chapter of 7
[20:43] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> OMG - for the first time I feel pity for Petunia smile
[20:43] <Aquamarine> I wonder what this does..... *crash*
[20:43] <harryfreak359> lol GFAB
[20:44] <fawkes28> anytime future
[20:44] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> she'll need a straightjacket
[20:44] <harryfreak359> me too, me too
[20:44] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:44] <futureweasley> I'd like to see Ron stuff Dudley in the cupboard under the stairs
[20:44] <CarpeDiem> Ohhh! You're right...she's SUCH a neat freak! smile
[20:44] <Aquamarine> poor petunia and her surgically clean kitchen !
[20:44] <harryfreak359> yes
[20:44] <fawkes28> if all this does happen i will be dting of laughter
[20:44] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:44] <Kristine> lol.
[20:44] <harryfreak359> me too!
[20:44] <gryffindelle> he'll start breaking the muggle/magic restriction laws left and right
[20:44] <fawkes28> dying
[20:44] <Kristine> Woot!
[20:44] <futureweasley> he's of age...it won't matter
[20:44] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Ron pwns Petunia and/or Dudders
[20:45] <harryfreak359> probably gryff
[20:45] <Aquamarine> in the midst of her pre-bedtime wipedown... there is a sudden commotion... and RON appears!
[20:45] <artlady> heehee Ican't type...hah
[20:45] <Rebekia> um...kay what are we talking about now?
[20:45] <gryffindelle> another hearing??
[20:45] <harryfreak359> join the club artlady...
[20:45] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:45] <Aislinn> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showforum=184. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next WWW chat here: http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showtopic=32415&pid=925921&st=0&#entry925921
[20:45] <fawkes28> hopefully he wont burn the house down
[20:45] <futureweasley> What Ron will act like at the Dursleys
[20:45] <gryffindelle> and maybe they'll be able to apparate!!
[20:45] <harryfreak359> aww these go by to quickly
[20:45] <gryffindelle> that would be hilarious, Ron apparating on dudley's head
[20:45] <An_Eternal_Night> oh no, i came too late... oh well
[20:45] <futureweasley> they can't take the apparation test until Harry's birthday
[20:45] <harryfreak359> LOL
[20:45] <futureweasley> AEN, welcome
[20:45] <Aislinn> they do go by very fast harry!
[20:45] <riefvly> Well is back to work
[20:45] <gryffindelle> I know, but they might still be there
[20:46] <Rebekia> Let's talk about Ron doing a non-verbal spell in his second year at hogwart ;)
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[20:46] <Kristine> It's either cold or totally clueless about muggle things and the like
[20:46] <harryfreak359> huh??
[20:46] <artlady> what do you think it would be?
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[20:46] <An_Eternal_Night> thanks, this sounds like a hilarious conversation
[20:46] <Kristine> He did?
[20:46] <christina_158> vernon might turn a permenant shade of purple after being around Ron for a while
[20:46] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:46] <harryfreak359> whene?
[20:46] <harryfreak359> when*
[20:46] <futureweasley> OK guys, final question...
[20:46] <Aquamarine> I much prefer his shade of *puce*
[20:46] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:46] <Aquamarine> yayay!
[20:46] <Rebekia> the slugs
[20:46] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL
[20:46] <fawkes28> oh no! what will the neighbors think of the dursleys then?
[20:46] <riefvly> lol
[20:46] <futureweasley> Ron Weasley - Live or Die
[20:47] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> Live!
[20:47] <Aquamarine> Die!
[20:47] <harryfreak359> . . .
[20:47] <riefvly> live
[20:47] <fawkes28> live!
[20:47] <An_Eternal_Night> live!!!
[20:47] <artlady> LIVE!!!
[20:47] <Aislinn> Live!
[20:47] <gryffindelle> I hope he lives, but I think he might die
[20:47] <harryfreak359> half die
[20:47] <futureweasley> awww, he's got to live!
[20:47] <harryfreak359> half live
[20:47] <gryffindelle> so half/half
[20:47] <An_Eternal_Night> he has to live
[20:47] <Angelyka13> live
[20:47] <Aquamarine> Oh well, I'm out numbered
[20:47] <artlady> Half??
[20:47] <Aislinn> half die???
[20:47] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> *ignores anyone who disagrees*
[20:47] <christina_158> I also hope he lives, but i think he might die
[20:47] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:47] <Kristine> Err.... I couldnt help but feel De..
[20:47] <fawkes28> lol
[20:47] <Tanaqui> i think he'll live--j.k. hasn't had any other weasley's die
[20:47] <Kristine> *Die
[20:47] <futureweasley> If Ron goes, I go...and that's not something any of us want
[20:47] <artlady> what, does he lose a limb?
[20:47] <harryfreak359> well they'll all think he is dead
[20:47] <Aislinn> he's already almost died - that was enough
[20:47] <Kristine> lol. :P
[20:47] <Aquamarine> I HOPE he lives, but I'm thinking sacrifice for Harry
[20:47] <harryfreak359> but he wont be
[20:48] <futureweasley> this isn't Monty Python! Lose a limb indeed
[20:48] <fawkes28> harry wont be able to "fully live" unless ron stays alive
[20:48] <Kristine> He'll be incapacitated.
[20:48] <futureweasley> lol
[20:48] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:48] <harryfreak359> understand?
[20:48] <Tanaqui> wait--so half live is like romeo and juliet 'die'?
[20:48] <gryffindelle> if he dies that would be the way, aqua
[20:48] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LOL F/W!!!!
[20:48] <Rebekia> if you read that he never says the incantation...he gets mad, tells Draco to Eat Slugs points his wand from behind somenes arm and POOF out comes the spell. it wouldve worked too if his wand wasnt broken
[20:48] <artlady> He's only mostly dead...
[20:48] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> *stifle*
[20:48] <CarpeDiem> Yep, I'm concerned about SS/PS repeating itself and Ron sacrificing himself so that Harry can get to Voldermort.
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[20:48] <futureweasley> bring out your dead?
[20:48] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> get out the bellows
[20:48] <futureweasley> lol
[20:48] <Aquamarine> LOL FW!
[20:48] <An_Eternal_Night> but i'm not dead!
[20:48] <Aquamarine> ROFL!
[20:48] <Rebekia> Rons a smart cooke. that's what makes me feel he has a lot of talent surpressed
[20:49] <Aislinn> so - monty python or Princess Bride outcomes for Ronald
[20:49] <Rictu_sempra> Monty python!
[20:49] <Aislinn> biggrin
[20:49] <gryffindelle> lol
[20:49] <harryfreak359> he'll maybe knocked out awhile, and Harry will with he is dead, but he wont be...that is what I meant by half-dead
[20:49] <Rebekia> that'd be cookie*
[20:49] <Aquamarine> You will me in ten minutes, just get in the cart!
[20:49] <Kristine> :P
[20:49] <fawkes28> ok got to go nice chatting with you all smile
[20:49] <Kristine> He'll be in a coma?
[20:49] <fawkes28> see you in the lounge
[20:49] <christina_158> hopefully it will be like ss/ps and he lives through it.
[20:49] <Aquamarine> bye fawke?
[20:49] <Angelyka13> bye
[20:49] <An_Eternal_Night> bye fawkes
[20:49] <harryfreak359> bye
[20:49] <Aislinn> bye fawkes
[20:49] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> bye fawkes
[20:49] <Aquamarine> bye bye~
[20:49] <Rictu_sempra> Mostly dead? sounds good
[20:49] <Kristine> bye!
[20:49] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:49] <christina_158> bye
[20:49] <artlady> bye fawkes
[20:49] <gryffindelle> bye fawkes
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[20:49] <harryfreak359> LOL
[20:49] <Angelyka13> dead alive
[20:49] <Aquamarine> the living dead... ahhh!
[20:50] <futureweasley> Aunt Petunia, "Ronald, grab me that bread knife!" Ron, "as you wish"
[20:50] <An_Eternal_Night> hahaahaha
[20:50] <artlady> Hah
[20:50] <Aislinn> lol
[20:50] <Rictu_sempra> SO funny
[20:50] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:50] <gryffindelle> at the beginning harry thinks he's dead, but in the end he's actually alive
[20:50] <futureweasley> Aislinn...you had to get me started
[20:50] <Kristine> LOL
[20:50] <christina_158> if Ron does die it might be at the hands of the Dursleys
[20:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> LMAO!
[20:50] <harryfreak359> did I start this?
[20:50] <Tanaqui> i can't see the point of ron dying, really
[20:50] <Aislinn> artlady started it!
[20:50] <Aquamarine> *points finger*
[20:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> she did
[20:50] <Aislinn>
[20:50] <artlady> I got it from Harryfreak!
[20:50] <Rictu_sempra> Can I say that princess bride is my favorite movie of all time?
[20:50] * futureweasley points an accusatory finger at Artlady
[20:50] <Aislinn> lol
[20:50] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> *points too*
[20:50] <Rebekia> Night you crazy-crups
[20:51] <Aquamarine> :LOL
[20:51] <gryffindelle> ok
[20:51] <artlady> Me too, rictu
[20:51] <harryfreak359> lol...I thought it was my half dead comment
[20:51] <futureweasley> good night Rebekia
[20:51] <Aislinn> bye rebekia!
[20:51] <futureweasley> thanks for coming
[20:51] <harryfreak359> bye
[20:51] <Angelyka13> bye rebekia
[20:51] <gryffindelle> bye rebekia
[20:51] <Aquamarine> that was funny too Harryfreak
[20:51] <christina_158> bye rebekia
[20:51] <Kristine> Bye
[20:51] <Aquamarine> Bye Rebekia!
[20:51] <An_Eternal_Night> bye Rebekia
[20:51] <Pleshette> Live live live live live
[20:51] <gryffindelle> i hope
[20:51] <futureweasley> Ron will live...he's got to
[20:51] <Pleshette> Sorry I was away, hee hee
[20:51] <artlady> bye rebekia
[20:51] <Aislinn> live live live live live
[20:51] <Aquamarine> i would sob
[20:51] * futureweasley will not consider any other possibilities
[20:51] <Aislinn>
[20:51] <Pleshette> bye rebekia
[20:51] <artlady> vote Pleshette!
[20:51] <Rictu_sempra> Who else agrees that chudley canons bed sheets should be available for purchase?
[20:51] <Kristine> HalfDie
[20:51] <Rebekia> sure thing it's fun to talk live with some of you i know from the Kitchen. *waves* see you there!
[20:51] <An_Eternal_Night> live x 300
[20:51] <artlady> Live or die?
[20:51] <harryfreak359> I still go with half dead...though if one of the trio has to go...bye bye Ron
[20:52] <Kristine> ME!
[20:52] <gryffindelle> ME rictu!!!!!
[20:52] <Aquamarine> see you in the kitchen rebekia!
[20:52] <Kristine> haha I'm with harryfrek
[20:52] <futureweasley> he'll need Miracle Max?
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[20:52] <Aquamarine> harry freak, im with you on that one
[20:52] <Kristine> *harryfreak
[20:52] <Rictu_sempra> Didn't JKR once say that everyone worries about Harry and Ron but no one ever worries about Hermione and that worries her?
[20:52] <artlady> I always wanted that chocolate pill
[20:52] <Aislinn> *This chat will continue at the in the Study Hall of the Chamber of Chat http://www.chamberofchat.com/chat/enter.asp*
[20:52] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> I'm not a witch I'm your wife!
[20:52] <artlady> hah
[20:52] <futureweasley> it will! awesome!
[20:53] <harryfreak359> I worry about hermione,
[20:53] <artlady> humperdink
[20:53] <An_Eternal_Night> i'll be there!
[20:53] <Kristine> I dunno...
[20:53] <Aquamarine> she's going to live!
[20:53] <Angelyka13> thats not fair... stupid coc has not approved me in a week!!!
[20:53] <Rictu_sempra> me too
[20:53] <futureweasley> NONONO
[20:53] <CarpeDiem> Woot! Thanks Aislinn!
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[20:53] <Kristine> Same here
[20:53] <artlady> do we go now?
[20:53] <Aquamarine> My computer is messed up I can't go!
[20:53] <gryffindelle> I'll see you in the CoC, I'm ArchieFleep there, though
[20:53] <futureweasley> you can if you'd like artlady!
[20:53] <Aquamarine> grgrrr
[20:53] <harryfreak359> we still have a few minutes right?
[20:53] <Pleshette> Have a good night everyone!
[20:53] <Rictu_sempra> Bye!
[20:53] <futureweasley> goodnight Pleshette
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[20:53] <Pleshette> I'll be in the L & S
[20:53] <artlady> I can't go...
[20:53] <harryfreak359> about seven minutes
[20:53] <Aislinn> yes, we do harryfreak
[20:54] <artlady> oh!
[20:54] <Aquamarine> harryfreak, i thought we have like 7 minutes
[20:54] * Pleshette sends hugs to everyone!
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[20:54] * futureweasley hugs Pleshette!!
[20:54] <artlady> Hugs, Pleshette!
[20:54] <Aislinn> hugs pleshette!
[20:54] <Kristine> *hugs*
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[20:54] * harryfreak359 hugs pleshette
[20:54] <artlady> Oooo, Hug Party!
[20:54] <futureweasley> hi 7of9
[20:54] <Kristine> GROUP HUG!
[20:54] <Aquamarine> how do you get the starry thing?
[20:54] <Pleshette> Thanks everyone!
[20:54] <Aislinn> oh no, the borg has arrived!
[20:54] <futureweasley> I love group hugs
[20:54] <SevenofNine>
[20:54] <harryfreak359> group hug!
[20:54] <Kristine> *bear hugs everyone*
[20:54] <An_Eternal_Night> lol
[20:54] <futureweasley> type /me blah blah blah
[20:54] <SevenofNine> Am I too late?
[20:55] <Aquamarine> group hug!
[20:55] <artlady> 7 of 9, Hi!
[20:55] <futureweasley> 5 minutes
[20:55] <Pleshette> backslash / me ....
[20:55] <Tanaqui> just about sevenofnine...
[20:55] <Aislinn> last 5 minutes
[20:55] <SevenofNine> Hey artlady!
[20:55] <Kristine> Hey there
[20:55] <SevenofNine> What was the topic I missed?
[20:55] <Aquamarine> hey 7 o 9
[20:55] <harryfreak359> we are an interesting group
[20:55] <CarpeDiem> Okay I need to get going all. Thanks for the chat!
[20:55] <An_Eternal_Night> it was Ron Weasley
[20:55] <futureweasley> 7of9, Ron Weasley, live or die
[20:55] <Aislinn> Ron
[20:55] <Tanaqui> ronald weasley
[20:55] <Kristine> Ron: Hero or Zero?
[20:55] <SevenofNine> I love Ron
[20:55] <artlady> Mostly dead people, 7
[20:55] <Aquamarine> Ron... hero or zero
[20:55] <Pleshette> Bye carpe
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[20:55] <SevenofNine> Ron rocks
[20:55] <Tanaqui> do you think he'll die, sevenofnine?
[20:56] <Tanaqui> that was the final question
[20:56] <futureweasley> general concensus was that Ron PWNS!
[20:56] <SevenofNine> I hope not, but if the books are an arc, there's certainly a hint he could sacrifice himself
[20:56] <An_Eternal_Night> lol hahahaa
[20:56] <artlady> but only halfway..
[20:56] <SevenofNine> But you don't have to die while making a sacrifice.
[20:56] <SevenofNine> It's the intent, right?
[20:56] <artlady> true
[20:56] <harryfreak359> of course only half dead...
[20:56] <Kristine> Yeah, that's why some of us think he halfdies
[20:56] <Pleshette> Exactley
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[20:56] <futureweasley> will he sacrifice himself for Harry? Or Hermione?
[20:56] <SevenofNine> Like in Princess Bride!
[20:56] <Aislinn> yes, hopefully a non-fatal sacrifice
[20:56] <Tanaqui> sacrifice is giving something up...
[20:56] <futureweasley> oh no you didn't!!
[20:56] <Kristine> HERMIONE!!
[20:56] <gryffindelle> hi wronski
[20:57] <Tanaqui> usually something you care deeply about
[20:57] <wronskifeint> hey
[20:57] <SevenofNine> Well, so he almost dies--but ends up being a survivor
[20:57] <Ginny-From-A-Bottle> bye guys
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[20:57] <Aquamarine> i can't get into the chamber of chat guys...
[20:57] <harryfreak359> bye
[20:57] <SevenofNine> Perhaps looking like Moody
[20:57] <Aquamarine> tear
[20:57] <An_Eternal_Night> bye Ginny
[20:57] <Kristine> Bye
[20:57] <Pleshette> Bye gfab
[20:57] <wronskifeint> bye
[20:57] <Tanaqui> bill already looks like moody
[20:57] <SevenofNine> Cany you see Mad Eye Ron?
[20:57] <Kristine> lol, I'm on CoC
[20:57] <Tanaqui> two mutilated people in the same family?
[20:57] <Kristine> LOL
[20:58] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:58] <harryfreak359> Mad Eye Weasley
[20:58] <Aquamarine> LOL
[20:58] <artlady> heehee
[20:58] <harryfreak359> LOL
[20:58] <Kristine> lol..
[20:58] <Kristine> I couldn't imagine it..
[20:58] <SevenofNine> Better one eyed than dead
[20:58] <Pleshette> But Fleur is pretty enough for the whole clan
[20:58] <Tanaqui> lol
[20:58] <Aquamarine> lol
[20:58] <futureweasley> how's about Club Foot Weasley?
[20:58] <Kristine> lol. :P
[20:58] <Aquamarine> lol
[20:58] <Kristine> She is going to be a Weasley
[20:58] <SevenofNine> He can't make a babies with Hermione if he's dead
[20:58] <gryffindelle> in the study hall, kristine
[20:58] <harryfreak359> does that count has being half-dead?
[20:58] <futureweasley> she's a futureweasley
[20:58] <Aquamarine> LOl
[20:58] <An_Eternal_Night> lol, that's true
[20:58] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:58] <Pleshette> :)
[20:58] <futureweasley> like hermione, lol
[20:58] <Aislinn> he willl live happily ever after with his passel of bushy haired red-head kids and his Minister of Magic wife
[20:58] <gryffindelle> ??
[20:58] <futureweasley> YES Aislinn!
[20:58] <Pleshette> The end.
[20:58] <Aquamarine> lol
[20:59] <SevenofNine> Works for me Aislinn
[20:59] <Aquamarine> YESS!
[20:59] <futureweasley> loverly!
[20:59] <harryfreak359> Harry will be Minister of magic...
[20:59] <Aquamarine> wait, what about Harry??
[20:59] <Kristine> hehe yes, she's a futureweasley
[20:59] <artlady> that'll work
[20:59] <Kristine> Awwww
[20:59] <SevenofNine> No he'll be the greatest seeker in the history in the sport
[20:59] <gryffindelle> is anyone here in the CoC study hall?
[20:59] <Angelyka13> sounds good
[20:59] <Aquamarine> then ginny's a futurepotter
[20:59] <Pleshette> He's a futureweasley too
[20:59] <Kristine> I am.
[20:59] <An_Eternal_Night> i'm in the CoC
[20:59] <futureweasley> lol Pleshette
[20:59] <futureweasley> true enough
[20:59] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:59] <gryffindelle> whats your username?
[20:59] * futureweasley feels all warm and fuzzy
[20:59] <Angelyka13> alright bye all
[20:59] <An_Eternal_Night> I'm Mr. Dunderbore
[20:59] <Pleshette> Ok really, night all!
[20:59] <gryffindelle> ok
[20:59] <An_Eternal_Night> bye Angelyka
[20:59] <Kristine> AParker here
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[21:00] <SevenofNine> Getting silly is it?
[21:00] <Aquamarine> Bye!
[21:00] <harryfreak359> bye
[21:00] <futureweasley> goodnight
[21:00] <Kristine> Bye
[21:00] <Aquamarine> yepers
[21:00] <futureweasley> thanks again guys! this has been a blast
[21:00] <Kristine> Definitely!
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[21:00] <Aquamarine> :toast:
[21:00] <Kristine>
[21:00] <artlady> Ok, gotta get up at 5. See ya'll in the Kitchen!
[21:00] <gryffindelle> anyway, I g2g, see you on saturday
[21:00] <Kristine> HUGS!
[21:00] <SevenofNine> ***sighs*** and I missed most of it.
[21:00] <gryffindelle> byebye
[21:00] <harryfreak359> I'lll see some of you in the kitchen!'
[21:00] <Aquamarine> me too artlady!
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[21:00] <Aquamarine> see ya there harryfreak!
[21:00] <futureweasley> see you Artlady
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[21:00] <Aquamarine> Bye!
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[21:00] <Kristine> Bye guys!
[21:00] <harryfreak359> *hugs*
[21:00] <Aquamarine> TTYL!
[21:00] <SevenofNine> Bye from the Borg
[21:00] <Tanaqui> have a good evening everyone
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[21:00] <Aquamarine> *hugs*
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[21:00] <futureweasley> goodbye guys
[21:00] <Kristine> Take Care!
[21:00] <Kristine> Bye!
[21:00] <harryfreak359> bye mj
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[21:01] <christina_158> goodnight everyone, sorry for joining so late
[21:01] <Aquamarine> see ya next week!
[21:01] <Kristine> See you
[21:01] <futureweasley> see you SUNDAY!!!
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[21:01] <Aquamarine> okey dokey
[21:01] <futureweasley> for the P3 chat!!
[21:01] <Aquamarine> cool1
[21:01] <An_Eternal_Night> bye everyone!
[21:01] <Kristine> Bye
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[21:01] <Aquamarine> or the reading group chat
[21:01] <Kristine> *group hugs everyone*
[21:01] <Aquamarine> bye kristine
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[21:01] <Kristine> Bye
[21:01] <futureweasley> bye
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