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[19:01] *** Topic is: WWW Chat: The Trio
[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> lucky you!
[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> hi Aislinn
[19:01] <stewiegryf> how fun!
[19:01] <fawkes28> she'll be in a minute i promise
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[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> Sooner!!!!!
[19:01] <fawkes28> see
[19:01] <fawkes28> i told you!
[19:01] <stewiegryf> there she is!
[19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> I am here!
[19:01] <stewiegryf> hey sooner, aislinn!
[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> Yay!!!
[19:01] <Aislinn> Hi folks!
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[19:01] <Aislinn> starting to wonder if I could get in
[19:01] <SoonerGryffindor> lost track of time
[19:01] <DumbleDebbie> hi dreamteam
[19:02] <fawkes28> i yelled at her for you stewie laugh
[19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL
[19:02] <stewiegryf> smile
[19:02] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, I heard
[19:02] <fawkes28> LOL
[19:02] <stewiegryf> online or in real life?
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[19:02] <fawkes28> is everyone w00t2 for the Trio?
[19:02] <DumbleDebbie> hi HF!
[19:02] <fawkes28> in real life
[19:02] <fawkes28> hi hf
[19:02] <harryfreak359> Hi! smile
[19:02] <stewiegryf> hi hf
[19:02] <harryfreak359> Had some problems getting in tonight
[19:03] <Aislinn> me too hf
[19:03] <fawkes28> aww
[19:03] <SoonerGryffindor> for once, I didnt
[19:03] <fawkes28> !botsnack
[19:03] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat
[19:04] <harryfreak359> So how's everyone?
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> good, and you hf?
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> I am so excited to be talking about the trio w00t2
[19:04] <harryfreak359> good good, though I am going to have to go eat in a few minutes
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> no
[19:04] <SoonerGryffindor> you have to stay laugh
[19:04] <fawkes28> w00t2
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[19:04] <harryfreak359> I'll only be gone for about 10-15 min
[19:04] <fawkes28> hi malfada
[19:05] <DumbleDebbie> hi mafalda
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[19:05] <harryfreak359> I will eat super quickly tonight
[19:05] <DumbleDebbie> hi nymph
[19:05] <stewiegryf> how many times can we use w00t2 in one chat?
[19:05] <nympheart> hello
[19:05] <MafaldaWeasley> Hello everybody!
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[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> hey nymph, hi Mafalda
[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> hi Bel
[19:05] <fawkes28> hi bel
[19:05] <DumbleDebbie> hi Belenzie
[19:05] <nympheart> hi bel
[19:05] <Belenzie> hey all
[19:05] <Dreamteam> Hi everyone, just found out how to type messages, thanks Kelly and Mikey
[19:05] <SoonerGryffindor> as many times as we want Stewie
[19:05] <Belenzie> awwwwwwwwww the trio won..darn it
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[19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Mr M!!!
[19:06] <fawkes28> yay dreamteam! welcomeani to the CB
[19:06] <DumbleDebbie> hey Mr. M & cp
[19:06] <Aislinn> hi folks smile
[19:06] <harryfreak359> Hi Mr.M and Cloudpic!
[19:06] <nympheart> hi MrM, hi cloudpic
[19:06] <fawkes28> hi mr. m and cp
[19:06] <MafaldaWeasley> Hi, MrM and Cloudpic
[19:06] <MrMcGonagall> Long time, no see, Okies and honorary Okies!
[19:06] <cloudpic> Hi, all!
[19:06] <fawkes28> awwww
[19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, real long time wink
[19:06] <cloudpic> Okies do rule
[19:06] <fawkes28> we miss you!!!
[19:06] <MrMcGonagall> Like, two hours.
[19:06] <SoonerGryffindor> yes
[19:06] <Dreamteam> Thanks Kelly, continuing my learning curve - full circle soon
[19:06] <DumbleDebbie> that welcome smiley messed up my screen, now it's not scrolling properly :P
[19:07] <harryfreak359> oh no!
[19:07] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> sorry Debbie
[19:07] <Belenzie> anyone see the giant squid thing??
[19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> don't know why it is doing that
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[19:07] <cloudpic> Yes... I did... wonderful for CNN to acknowledge our Squiddy!
[19:07] <nympheart> i saw it, i didn't really look closely
[19:07] <harryfreak359> Oh, well, dinner time for me, I'll be back in a few smile
[19:07] <SoonerGryffindor> bye hf
[19:07] <DumbleDebbie> see ya hf
[19:07] <stewiegryf> I saw a picture...that thing was massive
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[19:08] <cloudpic> later HF
[19:08] <cloudpic> Imagine it in a lake....
[19:08] <cloudpic> Do we know the name of the lake at Hogwarts??
[19:08] <stewiegryf> umm...Lake Hogwarts? I don't know...
[19:08] <nympheart> i don't think so, no
[19:08] <Aislinn> CNN acknowledged squiddy?
[19:08] <Aislinn> I missed it
[19:08] <cloudpic> Yep
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[19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> hey Rongs
[19:08] <nympheart> hi PP
[19:08] <Aislinn> hi Prongs
[19:08] <DumbleDebbie> hey PP
[19:08] <MrMcGonagall> Isn't it called the Black Lake?
[19:08] <SoonerGryffindor> lol *Prongs
[19:08] <cloudpic> Mentioned it when covering the squid filmed by the Japanese team
[19:08] <ProngsPatronus> Hello, all!
[19:09] <DumbleDebbie> that's what I thought Mr M
[19:09] <cloudpic> Is it? Thanks Mr. McG.
[19:09] <ProngsPatronus> what is the question?
[19:09] <nympheart> that rings a bell somewhere
[19:09] <Belenzie> yeah black lake sounds right
[19:09] <nympheart> we're trying to figure out if we know the name of the lake at hogwarts
[19:09] <ProngsPatronus> future, did you get your recipe?
[19:09] <stewiegryf> It doesn't say on the Lexicon but Black Lake sounds good.
[19:10] <MrMcGonagall> Maybe that was just the way it was referred to in GoF, though, which as we know is not a good canon reference.
[19:10] <nympheart> is it a movie-ism maybe?
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> future says yes
[19:10] <ProngsPatronus> isn't there a map somewhere?
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> she is away at the moment
[19:10] <ProngsPatronus> it would be listed on that
[19:10] <MrMcGonagall> I mean GoF the movie.
[19:10] <cloudpic> LOL the CB dubs the Lake, "The Black Lake" take notes, Jo!
[19:10] <SoonerGryffindor> Prongs, she says it looked delicious and she cant wait to try it
[19:10] <mikey> Hogsmede lake sounds cool
[19:10] <ProngsPatronus> good
[19:10] <nympheart> hehe, I was suddenly reminded of the fact that Jack Sparrow is now on my tree for some reason
[19:10] <cloudpic> Indeed it does...
[19:11] <cloudpic> Hanging???
[19:11] <nympheart> yes
[19:11] <cloudpic> ewwww...
[19:11] <cloudpic> LOL
[19:11] <mikey> Being in Scotland it might be known as a loch rathr than a lake with it's name
[19:11] <nympheart> it's the scene with the dog and the keys
[19:11] <DumbleDebbie> true mikey
[19:11] <cloudpic> Oh, quite right, mikey
[19:11] <DumbleDebbie> how do you say 'black' in Scots Gaelic?
[19:12] <futureweasley> Prongs, that cheesecake looks like it is to die for!!
[19:12] <SoonerGryffindor> no idea Debbie
[19:12] <ProngsPatronus> it is
[19:12] <DumbleDebbie> hey future smile
[19:12] * cloudpic wishes Sean Connery were hear to answer, Debbie!
[19:12] <futureweasley> hi Debbie!
[19:12] <DumbleDebbie> lol, yeah, that'd be fab cp
[19:12] <fawkes28> oh, we watched pirates 2 last night
[19:12] <DumbleDebbie> :drool:
[19:12] <futureweasley> lol
[19:12] <nympheart> cool fawkes
[19:12] <fawkes28> and connected it to HP
[19:12] <ProngsPatronus> lol
[19:13] <cloudpic> Of course!
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> yes we did
[19:13] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, because we all know that Jack Sparrow is the quintessential Slytherin!
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> yes
[19:13] <fawkes28> wow mr. m - where did you get that from?
[19:13] <nympheart> yeah, there is definitely slytherin in there
[19:13] <stewiegryf> sounds like tons of fun was had in OK last night
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> totally Slytherin
[19:13] <fawkes28> laugh
[19:13] <SoonerGryffindor> still is Stewie
[19:14] <MrMcGonagall> I only heard about the Pirates ruminations over lunch today.
[19:14] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:14] <stewiegryf> I think everyone should come to California soon! smile
[19:14] <ProngsPatronus> too many earthquakes
[19:14] <nympheart> PA's neglected...
[19:15] <futureweasley> sign me up, Stewie!!
[19:15] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Stewie. We have decided the next conference should be in Michigan
[19:15] <futureweasley> LOL, Grand Rapids, to be exact!
[19:15] <futureweasley> Grand Rapids has arrived
[19:15] <fawkes28> conference? lol is that what this is?
[19:15] <futureweasley> lol
[19:15] <stewiegryf> But that's even further away than OK!
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> y'all planning to get snowed in?
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> oiy
[19:15] <fawkes28> i may not leave but don't tell sooner laugh
[19:15] <DumbleDebbie> ;)
[19:15] <nympheart> I miss snowsad
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[19:16] <Aislinn> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat!
[19:16] <futureweasley> 6 Books, 3 friends, 1 seemingly unsurmountable task after another. We've seen Harry Potter, Ronald Weasley and Hermione Granger become close, personal friends since the "Mountain Troll Incident" in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone/Sorcerer's Stone.
[19:16] <futureweasley> Tonight's discussion will revolve around our Trio, and their relationship with each other. A special thank you to MrMcGonagall for his insight into this matter. Without further ado, let's start with the questions!
[19:17] <futureweasley> Would there have been a trio without the troll? Why or why not?
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> Awwwww
[19:17] <DumbleDebbie> I don't think so
[19:17] <stewiegryf> Yes, but I think it would have taken a lot longer.
[19:17] <fawkes28> awwwww
[19:17] <MrMcGonagall> not the trio as we have it now.
[19:17] <ProngsPatronus> yes
[19:17] <nympheart> Jo said herself that she believed it would take something big to get them together
[19:17] <MafaldaWeasley> I think
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I remember ths discussion from the book 1 RG
[19:17] <DumbleDebbie> up until then they couldn't stnad her. there would have had to have been some other bonding event
[19:17] <Aislinn> I agree, stewie - it would have happened, but later on
[19:17] <futureweasley> I think there would have been some "other" big event to help bring them together
[19:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I think my stand on that is that it would not have happened
[19:18] <futureweasley> maybe not a mountain troll, but something big and life altering
[19:18] <stewiegryf> I agree future.
[19:18] <MafaldaWeasley> pff.. sorry for that, pressed the wrong button here.. i think it takes a lot to built trust.. in this case was the troll
[19:18] <DumbleDebbie> right Sooner, not without something drastic
[19:18] <SoonerGryffindor> right
[19:18] <ProngsPatronus> there is an inevitability about the trio--I think it would have happened
[19:18] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, it needed to be something major to bring Hermione into the trio.
[19:19] <futureweasley> me too MrM...something that they couldn't have done without her
[19:19] <Aislinn> yes, prongs, I think it was bound to happen - they are 3 parts of a whole
[19:19] <MrMcGonagall> Of course, it wouldn't be a trio without a third person. Durr!
[19:19] <DumbleDebbie> only because Jo wanted it that way wink
[19:19] <futureweasley> pffft
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[19:19] <futureweasley> hi harryfreak
[19:19] <DumbleDebbie> wb hf
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[19:19] <ProngsPatronus> hey, hf
[19:19] <nympheart> i think it would have taken far longer without the troll
[19:19] <harryfreak359> Hi everyone!
[19:20] <nympheart> hi hf
[19:20] <Belenzie> no because jo was adamant towards her editor about keeping it in
[19:20] <harryfreak359> what's the current question?
[19:20] <ProngsPatronus> well, I think that, although it would have happened, there would have been critical time lost
[19:20] <MafaldaWeasley> lo, hf
[19:20] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps they wouldn't have bonded as tightly as they needed to
[19:20] <Belenzie> * the troll scene I mean
[19:20] <nympheart> I agree, Prongs
[19:20] <DumbleDebbie> would there have been a trio without the troll HF
[19:20] <mikey> Maybe it might have turned out more like the marauders with Dean & Seamus if the whole troll incident hadn't gelled them together
[19:20] <harryfreak359> Thanks, Debbie smile
[19:20] <Dreamteam> she may still have found out they were leaving the common room and been locked out with them and got stuck in the third floor corriidor with the three headed dog
[19:20] <DumbleDebbie> np HF
[19:21] <futureweasley> Mikey, that's interesting
[19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> that s interesting
[19:21] <futureweasley> I had never thought of anything like that
[19:21] <MrMcGonagall> Hermione is so different from Harry and Ron personality-wise that I think they needed something to move their acquaintance-friendship to a higer level.
[19:21] <MafaldaWeasley> yes, PP, they have saved hermione's life...this is bonding
[19:21] <Belenzie> it would have benn a hermione/neville twosime lol
[19:21] <SoonerGryffindor> that is another viable option dreamteam
[19:21] <futureweasley> How has the Trio's relationship evolved through the Series?
[19:21] <harryfreak359> Yes, Dreamteam that could have happened too
[19:22] <ProngsPatronus> I think the trio has been through the refiner's fire
[19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I love how they just seemed to gel so early
[19:22] <DumbleDebbie> brb
[19:22] <cloudpic> They've accepted one another for what they are a bit more than some friends do
[19:22] <nympheart> it's had it's snags, but has really stuck together
[19:22] <fawkes28> their relationship has grown very strong and stable
[19:22] <harryfreak359> They have gotten alot closer and more loyal to each other...more like family
[19:22] <Aislinn> they have grown and bonded together so much over the years
[19:22] <Dreamteam> they've come to trust each other and depend on each other.
[19:22] <ProngsPatronus> and that it is good enough to allow all of them to have a life
[19:22] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it has grown so much stronger with what they have had to endure over the years
[19:22] <Belenzie> they've formed their own separate twosomes within it
[19:22] <stewiegryf> I think they've had their ups and downs but have grown closer to the point where they care more about each other than themselves.
[19:22] <cloudpic> Plus, they seem to have a common enemy... that always helps... and a real genuine "cause."
[19:22] <Aislinn> that's a good point Bel
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[19:23] <mikey> I think all 3 have their defined roles, Hermione is the brains, Ron is the support & humour, Harry brings instincts & ability
[19:23] <MrMcGonagall> True, stewie.
[19:23] <nympheart> yes, cp
[19:23] <Aislinn> Hi seven
[19:23] <nympheart> hi seven
[19:23] <cloudpic> I agree, stewie
[19:23] <futureweasley> they are all together, but all separate, too
[19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> hey seven
[19:23] <futureweasley> hi seven
[19:23] <harryfreak359> Hi Seven
[19:23] <fawkes28> hey seven
[19:23] <Dreamteam> I've always thought that Ron and Hermione were almost like Harry's conscience, Ton ruling Harry's heart and Hermione ruling his head
[19:23] <ProngsPatronus> id and superego
[19:23] <Belenzie> i like that dreamteam
[19:23] <nympheart> that's interesting dreamteam
[19:23] <cloudpic> Nicely put, Dreamteam
[19:23] <fawkes28> they really do help him that way sometimes, dreamteam
[19:23] <Dreamteam> Sorry, Ron ruling his heart, don't know who Ton is
[19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> very nicely put
[19:23] <nympheart> I like that PP
[19:23] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:24] <Aislinn> yes, prongs - id, ego, and superego
[19:24] <futureweasley> That is very true Mike and Prongs...there are so many personality traits that keep them from being too "boring"
[19:24] <harryfreak359> yes, nicely put, Dreamteam
[19:24] <nympheart> Harry really is the id, the middle, the keystone
[19:24] <nympheart> *ego I mean
[19:24] <futureweasley> yes I agree nymph
[19:25] <futureweasley> I don't see Ron and Hermione being friends without Harry
[19:25] <mikey> Ron also anchors hermioneinto the real world, without him, she wouldn't mix or do fun stuff- all work & no play & all that....
[19:25] <futureweasley> right Mikey...too true
[19:25] <ProngsPatronus> hermione and Ron also allow Harry to access both sides of his nature
[19:25] <harryfreak359> Yes, I agree Future, I don't Ron and Hermione's friendship would have at all worked without Harry
[19:25] <stewiegryf> Ahh...just got a phone call from my brother, inviting me to a hockey game. Gotta go!
[19:25] <Aislinn> He does seem to be the balancing element between them.
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[19:26] <futureweasley> Would Harry have been able to survive up to this point without the Trio? What circumstances have the Trio been most instrumental in helping Harry get through?
[19:26] <nympheart> bye stewie
[19:26] <harryfreak359> bye Stewie!
[19:26] <Dreamteam> No futureweasley, they are too different
[19:26] <DumbleDebbie> bye stewie
[19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> bye stewie
[19:26] <nympheart> i think absolutely not
[19:26] <fawkes28> i don't think he would have because they have helped each other out so many times
[19:26] <nympheart> OotP was rough
[19:26] <Aislinn> I think that the 2 of them have been very instrumental in his survival
[19:26] <mikey> I wonder if Harry & Ron could have applied themselves more to their studies if hermione wasn't around
[19:26] <Dreamteam> Harry wouldn't have handled the chess game or the potions riddle without them
[19:26] <ProngsPatronus> no, I think that they have been instrumental in his success
[19:26] <fawkes28> they bring out the best in Harry
[19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> He would have been toast before his first year
[19:26] <ProngsPatronus> he wouldn't have gotten the PS without them
[19:26] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner
[19:26] <SevenofNine> I agree dreamteam. Like original star trek where spock provided Kirk with the logical side of things and Bones provided the emotional side
[19:26] <DumbleDebbie> voldy may have gotten the Stone in PS without Ron and Hermione
[19:26] <SoonerGryffindor> thanks Prongs, that's what I was trying to say
[19:27] <futureweasley> ok, if they have been THAT instrumental to his success, does he "owe" them anything?
[19:27] <Aislinn> Hermione's brains helped him through the fist obstacles in PS, and he wouldn't have learned all of the things he did to succeed in the Triwizard tasks without her
[19:27] <Dreamteam> Mikey, I think they would have applied themselves less without her
[19:27] <MafaldaWeasley> nop. i think Harry wouldn't have made so far without Mione's brain and Ron's courage to stand for him
[19:27] <nympheart> I don't think he owes them, he does the same
[19:27] <SevenofNine> too right DumbleDebbie
[19:27] <Belenzie> evened out all the Harry bashing from the rest of the school, and when there was lots of love going around they kind of became the negative ie. ron in gof
[19:27] <futureweasley> I'm not talking lifedebt, either
[19:27] <harryfreak359> Yes, all very true Aislinn
[19:27] <DumbleDebbie> no, you don't owe friends
[19:27] <fawkes28> yes, debbie. he never would have made it past all of those obstacles in SS without them
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[19:27] <Aislinn> and Ron has been instrumental in teaching Harry all about the wizarding world, as he was a stranger to it up until he was 11
[19:27] <ProngsPatronus> it is not a question of "owing"
[19:27] <harryfreak359> Also true, Aislinn
[19:28] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, what would have happened to Harry in the 1st task if Hermione hadn't been there to teach him Summoning Charms.
[19:28] <futureweasley> I'm just wondering what your take is on that
[19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont think future means in a lifedebt way
[19:28] <HPotterExpert2> Hi all!
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[19:28] <Aislinn> exactly Mr M
[19:28] <DumbleDebbie> I think you do things for friends because you love them not because you owe them
[19:28] <fawkes28> hi daretodream
[19:28] <DumbleDebbie> hi daretodream
[19:28] <futureweasley> hi daretodream...a fellow okie
[19:28] <nympheart> hi dare
[19:28] <harryfreak359> They both in some way helped him learn something important
[19:28] <daretodream2> hi everyone
[19:28] <SevenofNine> Hi everyone
[19:28] <SoonerGryffindor> hey from OKC daretodream
[19:28] <HPotterExpert2> hello!
[19:28] <HPotterExpert2> all!
[19:28] <futureweasley> hi HPotterExpert
[19:28] <MafaldaWeasley> hi seven, hi daretodream
[19:29] <harryfreak359> Hello daretodream and HPotterExpert
[19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point Mr M
[19:29] <SevenofNine> so what's the question Sooner?
[19:29] <HPotterExpert2> hi fw!
[19:29] <HPotterExpert2> yes, what is the question?
[19:29] <futureweasley> Repeat: Would Harry have been able to survive up to this point without the Trio? What circumstances have the Trio been most instrumental in helping Harry get through?
[19:29] <SevenofNine> I think definitely no
[19:29] <harryfreak359> Both Ron and Hermione have taught and/or helped Harry through many dangerous and important things
[19:29] <SoonerGryffindor> no way would he have made it
[19:29] <HPotterExpert2> Hmm...I don't think Harry would not have
[19:30] <futureweasley> I think he would have certainly bit it in the quest for the Sorcerer's Stone
[19:30] <HPotterExpert2> Without Hermione anyways
[19:30] <ProngsPatronus> well, it is more than magical ability that they give him
[19:30] <HPotterExpert2> especially in CoS
[19:30] <SevenofNine> It's very much been a group effort, though I don't think Ron or Hermione coul dhave done it alone either.
[19:30] <mikey> The tasks in GOF would have been a massive struggle without Ron & hermione
[19:30] <HPotterExpert2> I agree, Seven
[19:30] <ProngsPatronus> in CoS, where would Harry have been without their trust and emotional support?
[19:30] <futureweasley> the logic task alone would have been enough to keep him from getting through
[19:30] <SevenofNine> They each bring something special to the combined group
[19:30] <harryfreak359> I agre Seven
[19:30] <Dreamteam> They've provided him with family, rather than relatives
[19:30] <futureweasley> What is the glue that holds the trio together?
[19:30] <DumbleDebbie> that's nice dreamteam
[19:30] <SoonerGryffindor> love
[19:31] <Dreamteam> trust
[19:31] <DumbleDebbie> love
[19:31] <nympheart> I agree, Sooner
[19:31] <Aislinn> it's hard to say that it is one thing
[19:31] <ProngsPatronus> Love and trust
[19:31] <futureweasley> trust and respect
[19:31] <fawkes28> that's a nice thought sooner
[19:31] <HPotterExpert2> love, trust, and bravery
[19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> love, respect, and mutual admiration
[19:31] <nympheart> they're related
[19:31] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, it's that aspect of love which is true friendship.
[19:31] <Aislinn> yes to all of those things smile
[19:31] <futureweasley> lol Aislinn
[19:31] <HPotterExpert2> lol
[19:31] <ProngsPatronus> acceptance, too
[19:31] <Dreamteam> also loyalty
[19:31] <DumbleDebbie> Aislinn votes all of the above ;)
[19:31] <harryfreak359> I think that everything that has happened to them, they have realized that trust and love are quite important and I think it has pulled them together a lot.
[19:31] <ProngsPatronus> in GoF, Ron had to accept Harry's fame
[19:31] <Aislinn> yes - tolerance is a big part of it, I think
[19:31] <SoonerGryffindor> they are all also "outsiders" in their own respects, so I think that draws them together as well
[19:31] <futureweasley> yes, Prongs...unconditional acceptance and loyalty
[19:32] <fawkes28> definitely an understanding - they are all different than the mainstream student or person - they understand each other and it bonds them together
[19:32] <nympheart> I think all of those things come from love, when it's all said and done
[19:32] <HPotterExpert2> yup
[19:32] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner
[19:32] <DumbleDebbie> me too nymph
[19:32] <futureweasley> their past experiences
[19:32] <mikey> I agree with dreamteam, because Hermione is isolated from her parents 9not magical0 & harry can't relate to the Dursleys, both Harry + Hermione want family, Ron coming from a large family would also have a need to seek something of his own, apart from his large family
[19:32] <MrMcGonagall> There's a complementarity among them, as well. They fulfill each other as friends.
[19:32] <Aislinn> I think their difference complement each other so well, and their commanilities draw them together
[19:33] <MrMcGonagall> Oh-oh, Aislinn and I are thinking alike again!
[19:33] <futureweasley> yes, they seem to fill in each other's "blanks"
[19:33] <harryfreak359> I agree Mr.M
[19:33] <Aislinn> biggrin
[19:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I think their past has been the glue that has held them the last few years, but they complete each other well which is what drew them to each other in the first place
[19:33] <ProngsPatronus> they make each other whole
[19:33] <harryfreak359> and Aislinn biggrin
[19:33] <Dreamteam> Yes, mikey, Ron wants individuality, which he doesn't get from his own family
[19:33] * futureweasley pukes because Fawkes said, "they had each other at hello"
[19:33] <Dreamteam> I like that Future
[19:33] <SoonerGryffindor> LOL
[19:33] <fawkes28> LOL
[19:33] * DumbleDebbie hands future a bucket
[19:34] <SoonerGryffindor> *dies*
[19:34] <mikey> Being 4th out of six myself, i can fully relate to Ron, wanting to form his own family
[19:34] <futureweasley> Which member of the Trio has changed the most since the beginning of the Series?
[19:34] <HPotterExpert2> lol, sooner
[19:34] <SevenofNine> That's what a good friendship does future
[19:34] <Dreamteam> Hermione
[19:34] <nympheart> that's a hard question
[19:34] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry
[19:34] <MafaldaWeasley> Mione
[19:34] <MrMcGonagall> I think HArry has.
[19:34] <DumbleDebbie> harry
[19:34] <harryfreak359> Hermione and Harry
[19:34] <Aislinn> yes, mikey - being 6th out of 7th definitley made him feel lost in the crowd
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[19:34] <futureweasley> personally, I think it's Hermione
[19:34] <SevenofNine> That's a tough one.
[19:34] <futureweasley> hi love4fawkes
[19:34] <Aislinn> I'd say Hermione
[19:34] <DumbleDebbie> hi love4fawkes
[19:34] <Love4Fawkes> hi
[19:34] <nympheart> Hermione's change was less gradual
[19:34] <fawkes28> i pick hermione
[19:34] <SevenofNine> Hermione definitely has changed because of her friendship.
[19:34] <SevenofNine> She could have been an Umbridget I think
[19:34] <Aislinn> She was so rigid and law abiding initially
[19:34] <nympheart> so it seems more obvious
[19:34] <harryfreak359> Hermione has become more forgiving and Harry has wiser I think...
[19:35] <mikey> Hermione has relaxed the most, Harry has gained confidence the most, not sure how Ron has been changed
[19:35] <MrMcGonagall> I agree Hermione has changed, but I think Harry has grown much more over the course of the series.
[19:35] <ProngsPatronus> I think Harry
[19:35] <DumbleDebbie> but Harry went from 'i can't possibly be a wizard' to 'yes, I'm taking down voldy'
[19:35] <cloudpic> Oh, dear... I can't see Hermione enjoying torturing someone...
[19:35] <Dreamteam> Hermione has changed from being a stringent law abider to a shameless law breaker (when necessary)
[19:35] <Aislinn> she has relaxed, and recognized that there are more important things than grades and rules
[19:35] <SevenofNine> But to think that Harry hasn't changed would do him a disservice.
[19:35] <futureweasley> lol seven...she could have been a McGonagall/Umbridge half-breed!
[19:35] <fawkes28> From the first moment we met Hermione, her attitude towards life has changed tremendously
[19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I keep thinking of Hagrid's line to Harry in book 1. "After 7 years of Hogwarts, you wont recognize yourself"
[19:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think Hagrid was right
[19:35] <MafaldaWeasley> hehehe, yeah FW
[19:35] <SevenofNine> lol future! I keep thinking about that sweet, innocment little Harry--just Harry.
[19:35] <DumbleDebbie> nice one sooner, actually it's happened already
[19:35] <SevenofNine> He's come a long way.
[19:35] <Love4Fawkes> Hermione has changed a lot. When I go back and read book 1 I barely recognize her
[19:35] <HPotterExpert2> Nice Sooner
[19:35] <cloudpic> I always thought Hermione's "rule-following"mode was her effort not to mess up in an unfamiliar setting rather than some innate need to Ruel
[19:35] <futureweasley> lol
[19:36] <fawkes28> there are more important things than books and cleverness
[19:36] <cloudpic> *Rule
[19:36] <Aislinn> They have all grown, but Harry seems to still be Harry to me - he still represents the kid who is just trying to do the right thing
[19:36] <cloudpic> Yes, fawkes, she said that early on...
[19:36] <SevenofNine> I don't think it was a need to rule, Cloudpic.
[19:36] <harryfreak359> Yes, I agree with that Aislinn, he's changed in a different way then Hermione
[19:36] <futureweasley> Harry has changed a lot, but I don't think his revelation can't hold a candle to Hermione's
[19:36] <fawkes28> but Harry's core is always the same
[19:36] <SevenofNine> There are just many personality types that are rule keepers
[19:36] <SevenofNine> I'm one
[19:36] <nympheart> Hermione's transformation took place solely in the first half of the series, Harry kept going
[19:36] <MrMcGonagall> Harry is much more assertive and take-charge than he used to be. I think his emotions are more on the surface.
[19:36] <mikey> Did antone really feel in awe of hermione the first time they read OoTP, the spells she was using were so more advanced than Ron & harry
[19:36] <ProngsPatronus> I think that Harry has managed to come out from under his fame to the purpose behind it
[19:36] <HPotterExpert2> Hermione, for me, she has settled down a lot more
[19:36] <cloudpic> sorry... follow rules,
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[19:36] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, that's what I'm getting at - his core seems to be firm
[19:37] <nympheart> But now his core has spread out and become stronger
[19:37] <MrMcGonagall> I don't really think Hermione's core has changed, though.
[19:37] <SevenofNine> I like that Prongs
[19:37] <Dreamteam> Harry has changed a lot, he's grown in confidence and he stands up to people who try to bully him much more now than at the beginning of the series
[19:37] <cloudpic> I agree, Mr. McG.
[19:37] <SevenofNine> And that's a tough thing, I think, suddenly finding that you're famous.
[19:37] <harryfreak359> I agree with both sides smile
[19:37] <cloudpic> They all started out as good decent kids... still are
[19:37] <fawkes28> but i think it does Mr. M
[19:37] <Aislinn> yes, he has come into his own much more
[19:37] <nympheart> I think we've agreed that Ron hasn't changed as much, only in the last book really
[19:37] <Aislinn> It's interesting that noone feels Ron has changed as much
[19:37] <ProngsPatronus> I mean, he could have been a Lockhart
[19:37] <fawkes28> Hermione did not care about friendships at the beginning
[19:37] <futureweasley> right nympheart
[19:38] <cloudpic> Harry has had the most difficult experiences of the three...
[19:38] <Aislinn> I wonder if we will see him change more in the final book
[19:38] <futureweasley> What strengths does Ron being to the Trio?
[19:38] <fawkes28> she has invested a lot in the boys because of her experiences
[19:38] <cloudpic> facing Lord V.
[19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> Courage, strategy, loyalty
[19:38] <futureweasley> his strategising ability
[19:38] <DumbleDebbie> he's Harry's biggest support
[19:38] <SevenofNine> ron is courageous--don't judge him by the movies
[19:38] <cloudpic> dealing with Umbridge's torture
[19:38] <MrMcGonagall> Ron really provides the emotional support Harry needs at times.
[19:38] <harryfreak359> He knows the most about the wizarding world and is good at stragey
[19:38] <Aislinn> Loyalty is one of the biggest ones I see
[19:38] <Dreamteam> Ron's knowledge of the wizarding world
[19:38] <futureweasley> he's Harry's humor, his touchstone back to Earth when things go crazy
[19:38] <SoonerGryffindor> right Mr M. He will be there no matter what
[19:38] <HPotterExpert2> support, loyalty, and laughter lol
[19:38] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Aislinn.
[19:38] <cloudpic> Yes, Harryfreak
[19:38] <Love4Fawkes> loyality, knowlege, support
[19:38] <fawkes28> His loyality to Harry and Hermione is the most important strength that I think he has
[19:38] <harryfreak359> And he his also loyal and sarcastic...he adds some humor in there
[19:38] <Love4Fawkes> harry couldn't be harry without ron
[19:39] <futureweasley> right Love, I agree
[19:39] <SoonerGryffindor> Ron keeps Harry sane sometimes I think
[19:39] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner, and the other way around too
[19:39] <nympheart> there's strategy in there too, I think his chess skill will come to play on a bigger level
[19:39] <DumbleDebbie> he does keep him grounded sometimes Sooner
[19:39] <mikey> Ron lets Harry have fun
[19:39] <futureweasley> I love their friendship...it makes me smile like no other
[19:39] <cloudpic> He seemed to acknowledge that a bit in GoF
[19:39] <fawkes28> not everyone would make the sacrifices that Ron does for Harry - his loyality to Harry goes above and beyond
[19:39] <Aislinn> yes, sooner - he keeps him centered and allows him to relax
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[19:39] <DumbleDebbie> hi www
[19:39] <nympheart> hi WWW
[19:39] <harryfreak359> Hi Wagga
[19:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi everyone
[19:39] <fawkes28> hi wagga
[19:39] <SevenofNine> And guys need guys to be friends with. They just think differently than girls do.
[19:39] <cloudpic> Hi, WWW
[19:39] <SevenofNine> Hermione adds that to the overall relationship.
[19:40] <futureweasley> hi wagga
[19:40] <SevenofNine> Greetings WWW
[19:40] <harryfreak359> Yup, that's totally true Seven
[19:40] <MrMcGonagall> True, Seven.
[19:40] <Aislinn> hey wagga
[19:40] <Dreamteam> Hi WWW
[19:40] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Nice to see you all. We are discussing the trio aren't we?
[19:40] <futureweasley> Ron's ability to "roll with it" usually keeps Harry focused when that is necessary
[19:40] <harryfreak359> Yes, Future,
[19:41] <SevenofNine> Harry really cares for Hermione, but I don't think he has the same kind of connection with her that he has with Ron
[19:41] <fawkes28> yes, he is very laid back
[19:41] <cloudpic> I agree, nymphheart... Ron's strategy skills will come into play again
[19:41] <ProngsPatronus> well, what I love about the Ron/Harry friendship is that, to Ron, Harry is more than the Boy Who Lived--he is someone you can get mad with, and have a fight with--and then find a place within to make up
[19:41] <ProngsPatronus> and Harry needs that, desperately
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[19:41] <SevenofNine> Gotta go. Bye!
[19:41] <Love4Fawkes> that is true prongs, and important
[19:41] <harryfreak359> bye Seven!
[19:41] <Aislinn> yes , Prongs - he sees Harry as a person, not an icon
[19:41] <futureweasley> What weaknesses does Ron have, and how do they effect the trio?
[19:41] <Aislinn> bye seven
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[19:41] <DumbleDebbie> insecurity
[19:41] <cloudpic> His self doubt?
[19:42] <nympheart> he seems to have problems seeing other people's views
[19:42] <Love4Fawkes> ron can be too unsure of himself
[19:42] <harryfreak359> Well Ron seems to dwell on things and he doesn't seem to believe in himself
[19:42] <futureweasley> big time , Debbie
[19:42] <Aislinn> Ron is insecure, and it has resulted in misunderstandings at times
[19:42] <futureweasley> he also has a very short fuse at times
[19:42] <Love4Fawkes> good point nympheart, he does have that problem
[19:42] <ProngsPatronus> I think Ron's emotional non-development has hurt ther trio a lot
[19:42] <cloudpic> He's also limited to the Wizarding World outlook...
[19:42] <harryfreak359> He also doesn't understand others' feelings at time and often acts before thinking
[19:42] <HPotterExpert2> Insecurity
[19:42] <nympheart> i agree PP
[19:42] <fawkes28> yes, Ron is very insecure, which hurts their friendship at times
[19:43] <nympheart> hermione did say that he has teh emotional capacity of a teaspoon
[19:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with everyone
[19:43] <DumbleDebbie> lol nymph
[19:43] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hermione the conscience of the group. Ron overshadowed by older brothers
[19:43] <cloudpic> has more trouble "thinking outside the WW box"
[19:43] <mikey> Ron is narrow in his desire to learn, because he has grown up with magic all his life, he can't be suprised, or raise as much interest in basic skills as Harry or hermione would have
[19:43] <futureweasley> Luckily, Ron has come a bit into his own in HBP...we shall see what happens now that the puzzle pieces are in place
[19:43] <Aislinn> true, hf - I love Hermione's statement that he has the emotional range of a teaspoon
[19:44] <nympheart> i think that teaspoon grew through HBP
[19:44] <Love4Fawkes> i think ron has trouble seeing who he is. he defines himself by other people: the youngest weasley boy, harry's best friend. he needs to find ron
[19:44] <DumbleDebbie> now it's a tablespoon? ;)
[19:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In HBP Ron and Hermione behaved disgustingly to each other
[19:44] <ProngsPatronus> I also think that Ron's attitude to schoolwork has hurt Harry
[19:44] <nympheart> and that Ron's transformation will come in DH
[19:44] <daretodream2> I agree Love4Fawkes
[19:44] <futureweasley> What strengths does Hermione being to the Trio?
[19:44] <SoonerGryffindor> her brains
[19:44] <DumbleDebbie> cleverness
[19:44] <harryfreak359> But Harry has Hermione to put him right lol
[19:44] <Love4Fawkes> her logic
[19:45] <futureweasley> he ability to teach
[19:45] <cloudpic> Her willingness to research until she digs up answers
[19:45] <fawkes28> yes, debbie her cleverness is very important to the group
[19:45] <Dreamteam> Her dedication
[19:45] <DumbleDebbie> she's taught Harry how to figure things out. in the later books he pieces together things that only Hermione would have figured out in the early books
[19:45] <harryfreak359> Her logic, intelligence, her drive to do things until it's finished
[19:45] <nympheart> in places, her female intuition
[19:45] <fawkes28> that is true nymph
[19:45] <HPotterExpert2> pure intellect
[19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> An example that comes to mind is her information in book 2 about the basilisk
[19:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In HBP the roles seemed to be a bit topsy turvy
[19:45] <futureweasley> she is the voice in Harry's head...she is the "do-gooder" enough for all of them....that's a plus
[19:45] <HPotterExpert2> and cunning and wit
[19:45] <cloudpic> She seems to read other people better than Ron or Harry... is that what you're referring to nymphheart?
[19:45] <SoonerGryffindor> the boys would have been clueless without that
[19:45] <ProngsPatronus> I think that her mastery of magic helps harry a lot--if she can do it, so can he- kind of attitude
[19:45] <Aislinn> Her intellect, and her recognition of the emotional side of life
[19:46] <harryfreak359> She can definitely add reason to Harry and Ron's thinking
[19:46] <DumbleDebbie> definitely Sooner
[19:46] <SoonerGryffindor> and like Mr M mentioned earlier, her teaching Harry the summoning charm
[19:46] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, they would really be at a loss without her. Lets not forget all the homework help!
[19:46] <SoonerGryffindor> that too
[19:46] <Love4Fawkes> hermoine is not only smart, but generous and caring and rational
[19:46] <harryfreak359> yup that
[19:46] <futureweasley> the "Homework Planner"
[19:46] <Dreamteam> She keeps them on the straight and narrow when they are in danger of going down the wrong path
[19:46] <mikey> By applying a muggle perspective on the wizarding community, Hermione isn't prepared to accept Ron's 'Because that's the way it's always worked' defeatism
[19:46] <HPotterExpert2> lol
[19:46] <nympheart> lol fw
[19:46] <harryfreak359> lol
[19:46] <ProngsPatronus> focus--she gives them focus
[19:46] <harryfreak359> Agreed Prongs
[19:46] <cloudpic> I was really struck by her belief that Harry could Accio his broom for the dragon task... even when he wasn't so sure
[19:46] <Love4Fawkes> yes prong, focus
[19:47] <nympheart> yes, cp
[19:47] <nympheart> she has faith in him, in SS too
[19:47] <Love4Fawkes> she makes up for ron's lack of self confidence
[19:47] <Aislinn> yes, cp, she had confidence in his abilities, and I think he really needed that
[19:47] <Dreamteam> Yes, cloudpic, she believes that hard work will achieve any goal
[19:47] <futureweasley> What weaknesses does Hermione have, and how do they effect the trio?
[19:47] <DumbleDebbie> good point love4fawkes
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[19:47] <ProngsPatronus> but Ron is the one who gave her the first grounding in being a witch
[19:47] <nympheart> she freezes in a crisis
[19:47] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But Hermione doesn't have much confidence in Ron
[19:47] <Dreamteam> Her belief that the answer to anything can be found in a book
[19:47] <DumbleDebbie> she's a bit frazzled in a pinch
[19:48] <DumbleDebbie> 'are you a witch or aren't you?' ;)
[19:48] <nympheart> exactly Debbie
[19:48] <harryfreak359> Well...she is sometimes bossy and she never lets go of somethign that is bothering her *cough*SPEW*cough*
[19:48] <Love4Fawkes> that's true, she needs time to process and think
[19:48] <ProngsPatronus> in "are you a witch, or aren't you? Honestly, wood"
[19:48] <DumbleDebbie> but I think she's improved over the years
[19:48] <HPotterExpert2> she's never there during situations
[19:48] <Aislinn> Her bossiness, and her belieff that her way is always the right one
[19:48] <mikey> gullable- think Centaurs
[19:48] <harryfreak359> I agree Debbie
[19:48] <nympheart> she still was frozen in OotP when a DE had her at wandpoint
[19:48] <Aislinn> she can be a tad self righteous
[19:48] <SoonerGryffindor> she can freeze under pressure
[19:49] <futureweasley> she's horribly opinionated
[19:49] <MrMcGonagall> Hermione can be a little over-confident, too.
[19:49] <ProngsPatronus> I think that hermione's inability to think outside the box has hurt the trio
[19:49] <nympheart> she sometimes gets too emotionally involved
[19:49] <Love4Fawkes> lol, your right nymph and she gets hung up on things
[19:49] <harryfreak359> I don't know, Sooner, she seems to sometimes freeze but sometimes she keeps a cool head.
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[19:49] <DumbleDebbie> she's stubborn, and that can be both a good and a bad thing, depending on the circumstances
[19:49] <futureweasley> Hermione is also quite judgmental, both positive and negative
[19:49] <harryfreak359> I thik that she has improved a lot
[19:49] <DumbleDebbie> hi Pleshette!
[19:49] <harryfreak359> Hi Pleshette!
[19:49] <nympheart> I think whenever there is no immediate physical danger she's fine
[19:49] <futureweasley> hi there Pleshette
[19:49] <SoonerGryffindor> Hi Pleshette
[19:49] <harryfreak359> think*
[19:49] <nympheart> hi pleshette!
[19:50] <cloudpic> She has a kind of Stubborn persistence... that could be dangerous for her or others...
[19:50] <cloudpic> Hey, Pleshette!
[19:50] <Love4Fawkes> yes, but her stubborness has also been beneficial
[19:50] <Pleshette> Hello to the folkies from Okie! And everyone else
[19:50] <cloudpic> Good point Love4Fawkes
[19:50] <harryfreak359> Yes agreed love4fawkes
[19:50] <futureweasley> We're seen Ron and Harry, and Ron and Hermione go "toe-to-toe". Why do Harry and Hermione not fight?
[19:51] * ProngsPatronus thinks that Arkansas is the back of Beyond--even to folks in OK
[19:51] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She was quick thinking about that performance she did in front of Umbridge
[19:51] <harryfreak359> Well, I think it is mainly Ron that starts things...
[19:51] <Aislinn> They've had their moments, they just haven't lasted as long
[19:51] <DumbleDebbie> Hermione is more mature than the boys and she's not in love with Harry
[19:51] <cloudpic> Haven't yet? Or did they... they've disagreed over things, but haven't had a "falling out"?
[19:51] <Aislinn> the arguments over the HBP potions book for one
[19:51] <Dreamteam> Harry's not as stubborn as Ron. Two stubborn people together is asking for trouble
[19:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its very interesting that they havent
[19:51] <Aislinn> and when she told McGonagall about the Firebolt
[19:52] <harryfreak359> lol Agreed Sooner
[19:52] <futureweasley> Harry is definitely more "go with the flow"
[19:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But they have at times. Hermione nagged Harry about contacting Sirius, she argued with Harry a bit in HBP
[19:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it is because Harry's nature -- he doesnt like fighting
[19:52] <Love4Fawkes> i think dream is right. harry lets things go quicker
[19:52] <ProngsPatronus> well, Harry doesn't ever really fight back, when it comes to Hermione
[19:52] <nympheart> yes, fw
[19:52] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> She wasn't happy that he did better at potions than she would
[19:52] <Aislinn> he didn't talk to her for weeks when his Firebolt was taken away
[19:52] <ProngsPatronus> he just retreats to a place where she cannot get to
[19:52] <Pleshette> I think Harry has a mind of his own and if he doesn't want to listen he doesn't
[19:52] <MrMcGonagall> There have been disagreements, but rarely the kind of thing that occurred between Harry and Ron in GoF.
[19:52] <fawkes28> They understand each other at a deeper level - sometimes they seem like they are one person
[19:52] <cloudpic> He didn't with Ron... that could have ended if Harry hadn't been so stubborn...
[19:52] <futureweasley> right MrMcG
[19:52] <mikey> She sometimes makes descisions for the trio that Harry wouldn't have made, setting up the DA & throwing Umbridfge to the centaurs comes to mind
[19:52] <DumbleDebbie> that's a good point PP, they don't have to see each other 24/7
[19:53] <futureweasley> Ron was being petty, Cloudpic
[19:53] <Dreamteam> There have been disagreements but not fights as there are with Ron and Hermione
[19:53] <nympheart> I think Ron'
[19:53] <futureweasley> they were equally responsible
[19:53] <ProngsPatronus> the disagreements are different in kind
[19:53] <nympheart> grr, I think Ron's teaspoon is involved too
[19:53] <ProngsPatronus> with Ron, they are all emotion
[19:53] <harryfreak359> I agree Prongs
[19:53] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> advantage in not sharing a dormitory.
[19:53] <ProngsPatronus> with hermione, they are intellectual--which make her emotional
[19:53] <DumbleDebbie> Hermione gets in arguments with Harry over things she thinks are a threat to his personal safty
[19:53] <DumbleDebbie> *safety
[19:54] <futureweasley> What strengths does Harry being to the Trio?
[19:54] <Aislinn> yes, debbie - those have been the biggest disagreements
[19:54] <cloudpic> Yet she pushed establishing the DA....
[19:54] <harryfreak359> Exactly, Debbie, her arguments are there to protect him
[19:54] <fawkes28> he is very intuitive
[19:54] <MrMcGonagall> I often wish Harry would listen to Hermione a little more attentively. Sirius would probably still be alive.
[19:54] <Aislinn> Harry is the center
[19:54] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> What I mean is that Harry didn't like it much when he and Seamus were fighting and like Ron they are in same dormitory
[19:54] <ProngsPatronus> it just strikes me how motherly she is towards Harry sometimes
[19:54] <cloudpic> His ability to think on his feet...
[19:54] <nympheart> he drives the trio
[19:54] <MrMcGonagall> Harry is the center, but not in an egocentric way.
[19:54] <fawkes28> yes, cloudpic
[19:54] <DumbleDebbie> instincts in a pinch
[19:54] <Pleshette> Yes Prongs, to Harry and others as well
[19:55] <Aislinn> He is the balance between the two extremes
[19:55] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Whereas Hermione in girls' section so relationship not as fraught
[19:55] <harryfreak359> He fast thinking, great instincts, knows what he is doing, and won't back down
[19:55] <Aislinn> no, you're right Mr M - not in an egocentric way
[19:55] <mikey> Harry balances Hermiones brains with Ron's moments of common sense & loyalty
[19:55] <futureweasley> he's a great wizard in his own right, you're right about that
[19:55] <Love4Fawkes> i agree aislinn he is a balance
[19:55] <MrMcGonagall> It's when Ron thought Harry was being egocentric that the problems started.
[19:55] <ProngsPatronus> and his refusal to be mothered is at the root of most of their disagreements
[19:55] <Dreamteam> His courage, he stands up for what is right and won't back down
[19:55] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry is very passionate. Actually that can be either a strength or weakness depending on the situation
[19:55] <harryfreak359> I agree Sooner
[19:55] <DumbleDebbie> yes, dreamteam, so Gryffindor of him smile
[19:56] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I notice how Ron and Harry make allowances for each other
[19:56] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, I'd agree with that
[19:56] <nympheart> love is a passionate emotion...
[19:56] <futureweasley> his determination is also a huge strength
[19:56] <DumbleDebbie> true Sooner, kind of like Hermione's stubborness (can be good or bad)
[19:56] <Pleshette> yes future I agree
[19:56] <harryfreak359> Agreed Future
[19:56] <ProngsPatronus> yes--Harry can be obdurate at times
[19:56] <DumbleDebbie> yes FW definitely
[19:57] <Love4Fawkes> he learns pretty quickly too, most of the time
[19:57] <harryfreak359> He is definitely at sometimes, Prongs
[19:57] <futureweasley> What weaknesses does Harry have, and how do they effect the trio?
[19:57] <HPotterExpert2> Anger
[19:57] <Love4Fawkes> he doesn't stop to thiink
[19:57] <Pleshette> impulsive
[19:57] <Love4Fawkes> think
[19:57] <SoonerGryffindor> he does have this "saving people thing"
[19:57] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Any quality can have a good side and a bad side. Harry reckless
[19:57] <MrMcGonagall> He tends to be dominated by his emotions.
[19:57] <nympheart> agreed
[19:57] <fawkes28> yes, pleshette he is very impulsive
[19:57] <Dreamteam> Yes he finds it hard to control his anger
[19:57] <nympheart> he is working on it though
[19:57] <DumbleDebbie> LOL Sooner, ya think?
[19:57] <mikey> naive at times
[19:58] <fawkes28> I think that is also a strength sooner
[19:58] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Wearing his heart on his sleeve?
[19:58] <DumbleDebbie> he's got a bit of a temper
[19:58] <harryfreak359> He seems to lose control of his emotions, is a bit impulsive,
[19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> tell that to Sirius
[19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[19:58] <Love4Fawkes> i'd say very impulsive at times
[19:58] <fawkes28> hahaha
[19:58] <Aislinn> Harry can be reckless, and although one of his strengths is the way he draws people to him, he is reluctant to rely on anyone
[19:58] <ProngsPatronus> Harry doesn't think enough of himself--so he leaves the unpleasant duties of protection and emotional suopport to the others, at times
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[19:58] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But he was having headaches and LV in his head. Was all that temper his or LV's?
[19:58] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn
[19:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it was both WWW
[19:58] <nympheart> i think it built on each other
[19:59] <Aislinn> yes, I do too Sooner
[19:59] <Love4Fawkes> aislinn brings up a good point, he is reluctant to rely on anyone and ask for help
[19:59] <futureweasley> I think his determination can be a huge weakness, as well
[19:59] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> probably. Mind in conflict
[19:59] * ProngsPatronus thinks that megrims would make anyone a bit testy
[19:59] <nympheart> true fw
[19:59] <nympheart> it can make him blind
[19:59] <Dreamteam> He doesn't always tell others when he has a problem or worry, he needs to worry less about them
[19:59] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> true pp
[19:59] <Aislinn> in fact, he was trying to push everyone away at the end of HBP
[19:59] <Pleshette> Yes dreamteam
[19:59] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, he's not always the most trusting person. I think it's part of the reason DD tells him he ought to confide in his friends.
[19:59] <Aislinn> I was glad that he backed off of that
[19:59] <futureweasley> think Sirius and the Hall of Prophecies...he wouldn't hear anything but his own mind's whurling
[19:59] <ProngsPatronus> Harry has been alone too much in his life
[19:59] <harryfreak359> He seems to do that a lot Aislinn
[20:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He was trying to push everyone away at the end of OOP, too
[20:00] <MrMcGonagall> And the Dursleys don't inspire confidences.
[20:00] <Aislinn> he was, you're right Wagga
[20:00] <Dreamteam> I'm not sure its always a lack of trust MrMcG, I think he tries too hard to protect peopole
[20:00] <ProngsPatronus> I think that affects the degree of help the others can give him
[20:00] <futureweasley> How do "outside" characters affect the Trio's relationship; both positively or negatively?
[20:00] <harryfreak359> And in the middle of OOtP too
[20:00] <nympheart> it can go either way
[20:00] <harryfreak359> both I think
[20:00] <DumbleDebbie> well Krum had a bit of an impact
[20:00] <nympheart> there was Viktor...
[20:00] <SoonerGryffindor> Won-Won laugh
[20:00] <DumbleDebbie> ;)
[20:00] <fawkes28> half and half, hf?
[20:00] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Snape for instance?
[20:00] <Aislinn> Ron's jealousy was impacted by Krum
[20:00] <nympheart> and DD went the other way
[20:01] <Dreamteam> Hagrid tends to bring them back together after a disagreement
[20:01] <Aislinn> and yes, Lavender certainly
[20:01] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ron jealous of Krum.
[20:01] <Love4Fawkes> their hate for draco brings them together, they can always agree on that
[20:01] <fawkes28> yes, aislinn - krum definitely impacted their relationship in a negative way
[20:01] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, it varies quite a bit. There are those who have unified them, and those that have caused conflict.
[20:01] <Aislinn> good point, dreamteam - he tries to help them work through their differences
[20:01] <DumbleDebbie> yes, nymph DD encouraged Harry to confide in them
[20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> even though we didnt know he was a person at the time
[20:01] <futureweasley> I was thinking more Hagrid has been a positive influence...because the Trio must ban together everything it comes to matters involving Hagrid
[20:01] <fawkes28> that is a good point, love
[20:01] <ProngsPatronus> well, I think outsiders either feed the balance, or they speak to the individual instabilities
[20:01] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point future
[20:01] <ProngsPatronus> and disrupt the balance
[20:01] <DumbleDebbie> yes, Hagrid is a good positive
[20:01] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But in HBP, both Ron and Hermione thought Harry was too obsessed with Draco
[20:01] <nympheart> LV is unifying
[20:01] <fawkes28> I think that their hatred from Snape also unites them
[20:01] <Aislinn> that's a nice way of putting it, prongs
[20:01] <fawkes28> *for
[20:02] <harryfreak359> I agree Fawkes.
[20:02] <futureweasley> me too...the Trio has it right
[20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that too Prongs
[20:02] <Love4Fawkes> good point www, i didn't think of that
[20:02] <Pleshette> I think Neville unites them even though they may not realize it at times
[20:02] <futureweasley> yes Pleshette
[20:02] <futureweasley> totally
[20:02] <nympheart> I agree pleshette
[20:02] <harryfreak359> Yes, I'd agree with that too, Pleshette
[20:02] <Love4Fawkes> yes pleshette
[20:02] <SoonerGryffindor> wow, yes Pleshette
[20:02] <DumbleDebbie> aww that's great Pleshette
[20:02] <Aislinn> Neville - that's interesting pleshette
[20:02] <ProngsPatronus> I think that Neville brings out the best in the trio
[20:02] <HPotterExpert2> I agree
[20:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think that the trio is going to become a sextet
[20:02] * futureweasley loves Neville
[20:02] <nympheart> Ginny and Luna too
[20:02] <Love4Fawkes> i had never thought of that, but yes he does
[20:03] <Pleshette> They are drawn to protect Neville at times, stick up for him
[20:03] * ProngsPatronus does, too
[20:03] <DumbleDebbie> me too future
[20:03] <harryfreak359> Yes, Ginny and Luna do too,
[20:03] <fawkes28> I think Ginny actually can divide them
[20:03] <Pleshette> Yes and no hf
[20:03] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, fawkes
[20:03] <Dreamteam> Umbridge united not only the trio but the whole class and most of the school
[20:03] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Neville wants to fight like Harry Ron & Hermione. And I can't see Ginny wanting to be left out.
[20:03] <nympheart> really, fawkes?
[20:03] <Love4Fawkes> ginny has been a sore spot
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[20:04] <harryfreak359> well, at sometimes she can divide them, but sometimes she can unite them as well
[20:04] <Pleshette> Ron and Ginny disagree on things at times
[20:04] <fawkes28> yes, because hermione seems to want her to do things with the trio
[20:04] <Love4Fawkes> ginny is a complicated addition
[20:04] <fawkes28> while Ron and Harry want to shelter her
[20:04] <harryfreak359> half-and-half for her
[20:04] <nympheart> yes, but that doesn't really affect how Ron gets along with Hermione and Harry
[20:04] <Pleshette> But she and Hermione become close through the books, the girl connection
[20:04] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Harry didn't want to own up to fancying her
[20:04] <Dreamteam> Ron and Ginny are siblings they always disagree on something
[20:04] <harryfreak359> Agreed Dreamteam
[20:04] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ginny less preachy and more fun to be with for Harry
[20:04] <fawkes28> right so it divides them
[20:04] <Aislinn> I think ginny is a needed girl connection for Hermione
[20:05] <futureweasley> The Trio are all Gryffindors. Harry was almost sorted to Slytherin, Hermione into Ravenclaw. What alternate house could Ron have been sorted into, and why?
[20:05] <Pleshette> Absolutely Aislinn
[20:05] <Dreamteam> Hufflepuff for his loyalty
[20:05] <HPotterExpert2> Hufflepuff lol
[20:05] <DumbleDebbie> I think he's all Gryffindor
[20:05] <harryfreak359> Hufflepuff, I think
[20:05] <nympheart> I think Ron is a pretty solid Gryffindor
[20:05] <Aislinn> I think Ron is all Gryffindor
[20:05] <MrMcGonagall> I think he definitely has some Hufflepuff characteristics. A slight bit of Slytherin, but don't we all?
[20:05] <ProngsPatronus> and that tendancy for Ron and Ginny to be at loggerheads does wind up affecting the rest of the trio--usually negatively
[20:05] <Love4Fawkes> i think he's all gryffindor too
[20:05] <harryfreak359> but pretty much a gryffindor
[20:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hufflepuff, due to loyalty to team
[20:05] <nympheart> does anyone remember how long the Hat took with him?
[20:05] <futureweasley> I think that all the houses are well represented in the trio
[20:05] <SoonerGryffindor> He has an inner Hufflepuff
[20:05] <DumbleDebbie> I suppose you could give him a bit on the loyalty thing, but he just seems born to be a Gryffindor
[20:05] <DumbleDebbie> lol Sooner
[20:05] <fawkes28> mr. m, great observation
[20:05] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But you are right. Mainly Gryff
[20:06] <DumbleDebbie> embrace your inner Hufflepuff
[20:06] <Pleshette> Except for that tiny fear of spiders, lol
[20:06] <ProngsPatronus> Gryffindor, certainly--but Ron is very egalitarian
[20:06] <HPotterExpert2> lol, that's right, Debbie
[20:06] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> And he does huff and puff too. laugh
[20:06] <fawkes28> Ron is extremely loyal to Harry, which would mean Hufflepuff
[20:06] <Aislinn> lol wagga
[20:06] <DumbleDebbie> lol WWW
[20:06] <Dreamteam> That unites the school, three alternative houses but all in Gryffindor
[20:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we have all 4 houses represented nicely with the trio
[20:06] <MrMcGonagall> He does have a pretty steady sense of loyalty. He's a bit average in academics, too.
[20:07] <futureweasley> Hug your inner badger
[20:07] <MrMcGonagall> Not that I mean to insult the noble house of Hufflepuff.
[20:07] <harryfreak359> Yup I agree Dreamteam and Sooner
[20:07] <ProngsPatronus> well, I think that Harry could have been Sorted into any of the Houses
[20:07] * DumbleDebbie waits for the Huffelpuffs to start pelting Mr M
[20:07] <harryfreak359> I agree Prongs
[20:07] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[20:07] <nympheart> the Hat agrees with you Prongs
[20:07] <ProngsPatronus> exactly
[20:07] <ProngsPatronus> is was very difficult for the Hat
[20:07] <Dreamteam> MrMcG Ron's average but then he's no better or worse than Harry academically
[20:07] <harryfreak359> But i think Gryffindor is a good choice for him
[20:08] * ProngsPatronus think that the Hat and her get along very well...
[20:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Would draco have fitted into any other house but Slytherin? Just wondered. After OOP, Ron & Hermoine didn
[20:08] <Dreamteam> Nopoe
[20:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> didn't even seem to notice him much.
[20:08] <Pleshette> Yes, I think he's all Gryffindor
[20:08] <nympheart> it said Draco was immediately a Snake
[20:08] <DumbleDebbie> he's all Slytherin
[20:08] <futureweasley> Why did Jo choose gender the way she did in the trio? 2 boys and 1 girl? What if Ron had been "Rhonda", or Harry be "Harriet"?
[20:08] <MrMcGonagall> No, I think Harry has a little bit of an edge academically. Look at the OWL results. They'd both be lost without Hermione, though.
[20:08] <DumbleDebbie> Draco that is
[20:08] <HPotterExpert2> lol
[20:08] <HPotterExpert2> harriet
[20:08] <DumbleDebbie> I think she actualy considered Harriet
[20:08] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> It wouldn't have worked so well.
[20:08] <Love4Fawkes> i think it was mentioned before that harry needed that male input
[20:09] <MrMcGonagall> I think it's just the way the inspiration came.
[20:09] <harryfreak359> I think that it works best with the way it is
[20:09] <harryfreak359> I agree Mr.M
[20:09] <DumbleDebbie> I think it's good that there is representation of both
[20:09] <Aislinn> She has said that Harry sprang to mind, pretty fully formed
[20:09] <nympheart> I'm not sure it would have made much difference
[20:09] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that the characters just came to her the way they were
[20:09] <DumbleDebbie> 2 girls and 1 guy would get catty
[20:09] <Aislinn> and since he was a boy, he needed a friend that was a boy
[20:09] <Love4Fawkes> sure would dd
[20:09] <Pleshette> And Hermione is much like she was a child
[20:09] <ProngsPatronus> I think there would, unfortunately, been questions about the amount of time that "Harriet" spent with boys
[20:09] <futureweasley> I think 3 boys could have been difficult, too
[20:10] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree
[20:10] <Aislinn> and she has a good friend that was a boy, so intergender relationships would have naturally occured to her
[20:10] <DumbleDebbie> Yes, Harry did, but after starting building the story she stopped and asked herself why her hero was a boy and not a girl
[20:10] <nympheart> I agree fw
[20:10] <harryfreak359> I agree
[20:10] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> If Rhonda and Herman then Herman would expect to be boss. Hermione didn't like playing second fiddle to Harry in Potions
[20:10] <Love4Fawkes> yup, they need hermoine to ground them
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[20:10] <futureweasley> Herman!!
[20:10] <DumbleDebbie> hi marilyn
[20:10] <nympheart> hi marilyn
[20:10] <Aislinn> Hi marilyn
[20:10] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi marilyn
[20:10] <harryfreak359> hi marilyn
[20:11] <Love4Fawkes> hi marilyn
[20:11] <Pleshette> Hey marilyn
[20:11] <Aislinn> I think that having both genders makes for a more interesting story
[20:11] <ProngsPatronus> I find it interesting that she has written against "type", in that Hermione is the intellect, and Ron the bundle of nerves
[20:11] <futureweasley> me too Aislinn
[20:11] <nympheart> keeps more balance
[20:11] <Aislinn> How would the boys have ever learned about girl's feelings, without Hermione there to teach them?
[20:11] <harryfreak359> I agree completely Aislinn, and it gives something for both genders that are reading it
[20:11] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Interesting that Ron and Hermione are interested in each other and not fighting over Harry
[20:11] <Love4Fawkes> to them harry is just a person, not someone famous
[20:11] <futureweasley> Do you think that the Trio could have formed the way they did if they had been sorted into different houses?
[20:12] <Pleshette> True prongs although Hermione can be a bundle of nerves herself, and Ron
[20:12] <nympheart> no, I don't
[20:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> no
[20:12] <Aislinn> yes, prongs, it's nice that she didn't go with that stereotype
[20:12] <HPotterExpert2> no
[20:12] <harryfreak359> I don't think it would have
[20:12] <DumbleDebbie> probably not
[20:12] <ProngsPatronus> Harry is also, to a large degree, androgynous
[20:12] <Love4Fawkes> no, they wouldn't have had as much opportunity to get to know each other
[20:12] <Dreamteam> No because they would have had less contact
[20:12] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Only child like Hermione
[20:12] <nympheart> they're being in the same house makes it obvious that they have things in common
[20:12] <DumbleDebbie> it would be hard for them to get to know each other if they don't eat together and share a common room and classes
[20:12] <Aislinn> it doesn't seem like close friendships are very common between houses, although romances are
[20:12] <MrMcGonagall> No. I think close friendships are more difficult when you're in different houses. you just don't spend as much downtime together.
[20:12] <Pleshette> oops! and Ron can be the intellect when it comes to the wizarding world knowledge
[20:13] <Aislinn> yes, pleshette - that's true
[20:13] <DumbleDebbie> true Pleshette, he's a good resource for that
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[20:13] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Luna did well. Why? She doesn't seem as close to other Ravenclaws than to the trio
[20:13] <ProngsPatronus> lol--without Hogwarts: a history
[20:13] <Aislinn> I think Luna is an outsider no matter where she is
[20:13] <Pleshette> Lol Prongs!
[20:13] <nympheart> Luna is a bit of an oddball, with her I don't think it matters as much
[20:13] <futureweasley> I think that they would have been rivals
[20:13] <harryfreak359> I agree Ailinn
[20:13] <Aislinn> and the trio is rather accepting of outsiders
[20:13] <harryfreak359> Aislinn*
[20:13] <Love4Fawkes> Luna was an outcast with the ravenclaws, so she looked for someone else
[20:13] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they would have not liked each other - too much competition
[20:14] <harryfreak359> They are accepting to outsiders...they are themselves...
[20:14] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> true hf
[20:14] <Aislinn> yes, there is a lot of competition between the various Houses
[20:14] <futureweasley> Ron would have been an "outcast" too, being the only Weasley not in Gryffindor house
[20:14] <fawkes28> they would have had a few classes together but it would not have been enough
[20:14] <ProngsPatronus> I think, while Ravenclaw would have fed hermione's mind, it would have brought out all that was the worst in her
[20:14] <Dreamteam> I think Harry and Ron might have liked each other but wouldn't have got to know Hermione and liked her
[20:14] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Interesting that Hermione thought house rivalry a bad thing
[20:14] <Aislinn> I completely agree Prongs
[20:14] <ProngsPatronus> and that the friendship would never have happened
[20:14] <SoonerGryffindor> and they are all big assets to their house in different ways
[20:14] <Aislinn> It would have made her rigid
[20:15] <nympheart> I agree dreamteam, Harry and Ron had already met and befriended each other by the time they were sorted
[20:15] <ProngsPatronus> and competitive, and uncaring of those who were not her intellectual equal
[20:15] <Love4Fawkes> that's true, in ravenclaw hermione would have stayed like she was in the beginning of book 1
[20:15] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> they didn't like Hermione at first
[20:15] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Prongs. I think Gryffindor has developed Hermione's potentiality.
[20:15] <futureweasley> We've seen the Founders (a group of 4) and the Marauders (another group of 4) fall apart at the seams. In you opinion, why is the Trio for more successful in terms of their bond?
[20:15] <Love4Fawkes> true nymph, but in different houses they probably would have drifted apart
[20:15] <fawkes28> i love this question!
[20:15] <ProngsPatronus> because they make room for their differences
[20:16] <DumbleDebbie> the triangle is the strongest geometric shape
[20:16] <MrMcGonagall> They obviously lack the traitor in their midst!
[20:16] <Aislinn> I think that they complement each other so well
[20:16] <nympheart> one less wall to defend
[20:16] <MrMcGonagall> :)
[20:16] <SoonerGryffindor> I like both of those answers
[20:16] <fawkes28> LOL
[20:16] <SoonerGryffindor> lol Mr M
[20:16] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr M
[20:16] <nympheart> I agree Debbie
[20:16] <Love4Fawkes> well, they haven't been together as long as the founders or the marauders
[20:16] <Love4Fawkes> they haven't had time to fall apart
[20:16] <Love4Fawkes> sorry to be the negative one
[20:16] <SoonerGryffindor> I think they will stay strong forever Love
[20:16] <Dreamteam> The Marauders didn't fall apaart until after school, hate the thought but the Trio could still fall out
[20:16] <Pleshette> But they have been tested in their friendship
[20:16] <DumbleDebbie> me too Sooner (if they all survive the next book)
[20:17] <futureweasley> that's a very good point Dreamteam
[20:17] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> they nearly did in HBP. Because Ron and Hermione didn't want to admit they were keen on each other
[20:17] <ProngsPatronus> I think that there is enough individuality in the trio to allow them to remain friends
[20:17] <Aislinn> I think that you actually have a good point, Mr M - there was an odd man out in the other two groups
[20:17] <Aislinn> that is not true with the Trio
[20:17] <fawkes28> 3 is a powerful number as is 4 so i think it is interesting that Jo picked 3
[20:17] <MrMcGonagall> The one who was more self-serving than the rest.
[20:17] <SoonerGryffindor> The trio has been tested so much more than the mauraders ever were though
[20:17] <Aislinn> exactly
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[20:17] <DumbleDebbie> which has made them stronger
[20:17] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> But what would happen if Hermione gets together with Ron? Will they still stay the same?
[20:17] <Pleshette> Right Debbie
[20:17] <futureweasley> kid tested, mother approved
[20:18] <DumbleDebbie> LOL FW
[20:18] <Love4Fawkes> i don't think so soone, the maurders were together throughout most of LV's rein, that must have been hard
[20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> lol future
[20:18] <Pleshette> Yes I think so because their goal is still to help Harry together
[20:18] <DumbleDebbie> I think so WWW
[20:18] <fawkes28> The trio is the unity in this book
[20:18] <futureweasley> hey, the Marauders had to deal with Snape! Isn't that enough "Testing"?
[20:18] <ProngsPatronus> I think compassion has made its mark, too
[20:18] <Aislinn> I think the relationship will continue to evolve and grow wagga
[20:18] <Dreamteam> What if Ron and Hermione get together and then fall out, how would that affect the trio?
[20:18] <Pleshette> And Harry has thought it was going to happen all along I think
[20:18] <nympheart> And the trio has Draco to contend with
[20:18] <SoonerGryffindor> the trio have already dealt with LV together themselves before they have even gotten out of school
[20:19] <Love4Fawkes> that's a good point dream, that could be bad
[20:19] <ProngsPatronus> the trio are much more compassionate than either the marauders or the Founders werwe
[20:19] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> that is what happened in HBP wasn't it? Because of Lavender
[20:19] <fawkes28> so did the Trio, future!
[20:19] <harryfreak359> I agree Prongs
[20:19] <SoonerGryffindor> the founders had Slytherin as a member -- nuff said!
[20:19] <Aislinn> we have seen lots of examples of that, yes Prongs
[20:20] <harryfreak359> lol Sooner, that's true
[20:20] <Dreamteam> But Ron and Hermione weren't a couple until after Lavendar
[20:20] <Pleshette> At this point too I think Hermione and even Ron are mature enough to put aside certain passionate feelings in orders to help Harry
[20:20] <DumbleDebbie> yeah, who let him in?
[20:20] <Love4Fawkes> and the mauders had peter, he was more of a tag along than a member
[20:20] <Aislinn> pleshette - I agree
[20:20] <Pleshette> I don't see them abandoning Harry for "alone time"
[20:20] <MrMcGonagall> Well, Gryffindor and Slytherin is an example of how a friendship goes sour in a very bad way.
[20:20] <harryfreak359> Agreed Love4Fawkes
[20:20] <nympheart> yes, MrM
[20:20] <SoonerGryffindor> very true Mr M
[20:20] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> both did. Yes, Peter a one boy fan club
[20:20] <fawkes28> yes, peter was not nice at all
[20:21] <harryfreak359> true Mr.M
[20:21] <DumbleDebbie> yes Mr M. I was just thnking about how Gryff and Slyth were friends
[20:21] <futureweasley> Peter the fanboy...err, he's irritating
[20:21] <Dreamteam> I don't think they would abandon Harry but the way the react to each other would change
[20:21] <ProngsPatronus> actually, we do not have any evidence that Gryffindor and Slytherin did not retain some sort of friendship
[20:21] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Interesting his animal form a rat
[20:21] <fawkes28> true prongs
[20:21] <Love4Fawkes> yes, and he truely became a rat, didn't he
[20:21] <nympheart> but rats are sweet!
[20:21] <ProngsPatronus> eep
[20:21] <DumbleDebbie> ewww nymph
[20:21] <SoonerGryffindor> well, Slytherin left a big monster in the school. I bet that ended the friendship
[20:21] <harryfreak359> hahaha
[20:21] <Pleshette> In what way? lol
[20:22] <MrMcGonagall> Slytherin left the school and hid a serpent of deadly power to purge the school one day. That sounds pretty much like a definitive falling out to me.
[20:22] <Love4Fawkes> lol sooner
[20:22] <DumbleDebbie> tends to put a damper on things eh Sooner
[20:22] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Templeton would make a nicer rat
[20:22] <nympheart> they are! don't insult my pets when they're in the room
[20:22] <harryfreak359> I'd say Mr.M
[20:22] <Pleshette> So true!
[20:22] <fawkes28> great minds sooner and mr. m
[20:22] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> what's in it for him, you see
[20:22] <Dreamteam> Yes Mr McG you wouldn't leave a basilisk with your friends, would you?
[20:22] <SoonerGryffindor> lol. We must have been hanging out today! laugh
[20:22] <fawkes28> lol
[20:22] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:22] <ProngsPatronus> how do we know that gryffindor knew about the basilisk?
[20:22] <Pleshette> hahahaha
[20:22] <futureweasley> What is the significance of the different wand cores that JKR uses? How do the different wand cores relate to their characters? Are their roles mirrored by the attributes of their wand cores?
[20:23] <harryfreak359> Hmm....this I have never thought about...
[20:23] <Aislinn> hmmm, interesting question
[20:23] <DumbleDebbie> it's a nice balance, one of each that Ollivander uses
[20:23] <Love4Fawkes> wow, what a question. I don't think i have given this one much thought
[20:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> dragon strings wand cores for both Hermione and Krum, I note
[20:23] <ProngsPatronus> well, JKR has said that the wand chooses the wizard
[20:23] <nympheart> well, you have phoenixes symbolizing rebirth
[20:23] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Both a bit dark and scary?
[20:23] <Pleshette> I always forget about what each wand core represents
[20:23] <DumbleDebbie> I hope Harry's symbolizes him overcoming death
[20:23] <SoonerGryffindor> and Ron has unicorn hair which symbolizes innocence
[20:23] <nympheart> it's dragon heartstring, so there's a certain emotional telling there I think
[20:23] <ProngsPatronus> dragons were the keeper of wisdom
[20:23] <Love4Fawkes> i hope so too dumble
[20:24] <fawkes28> that is interesting prongs
[20:24] <Love4Fawkes> oh interesting prongs
[20:24] <harryfreak359> I hope soo too Debbie
[20:24] <ProngsPatronus> they hoard knowledge just as much as gold
[20:24] <fawkes28> Jo doesn't just choose her wand cores lightly
[20:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I didnt know that Prongs, that makes a lot of sense
[20:24] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> dragons could be good, not necessarily bad
[20:24] <MrMcGonagall> Yes, there's a balance in that there are one of each, but I don't think it's random who got which core.
[20:24] <Aislinn> it does seem to represent the difference attributes they each bring to the relationship that they all have different cores
[20:24] <DumbleDebbie> hopefully the unicorn hair doesn't represent one of the 1st to die sad
[20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree. I think its interesting that their cores do reflect their roles
[20:25] <Love4Fawkes> i don't think so either mr. m. jo is rarely random
[20:25] <ProngsPatronus> dragon's blood gave the drinker knowledge of the language of birds and beasts
[20:25] <ProngsPatronus> so, dragons are the gateway to knowledge
[20:25] <DumbleDebbie> is that one of the 12 uses PP? wink
[20:25] <nympheart> I remember that now! nice PP
[20:25] <Love4Fawkes> and hermione certainly is the gateway to knowledge for the trio
[20:25] <Dreamteam> Ollivander uses the trio of dragon strings, unicorn hair and phoenix feathers, so HRH are balanced in their wand cores and perhaps balanced in their protection
[20:25] <Love4Fawkes> harry and ron wouldn't know anything without her!
[20:25] <SoonerGryffindor> that is extremely cool Prongs
[20:26] <harryfreak359> Interesting Prongs
[20:26] <ProngsPatronus> the unicorn is a purifier--much like an aquafer
[20:26] <Aislinn> that's an interesting point dreamteam
[20:26] <ProngsPatronus> they can purify wells and render poison inactive
[20:26] <Aislinn> it could act to make them stronger as a team
[20:26] <DumbleDebbie> neat PP
[20:27] <harryfreak359> cool Prongs
[20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> I like that point dreamteam, I think that maybe the 3 cores will be very important in DH
[20:27] <ProngsPatronus> which is what Ron does for the trio, emotionally
[20:27] <futureweasley> What is your favorite Trio moment throughout the first 6 books?
[20:27] <harryfreak359> hmmmm
[20:27] <DumbleDebbie> hmmm
[20:27] <nympheart> erm
[20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> during the chess match
[20:27] <ProngsPatronus> for me, the chess game
[20:27] <MrMcGonagall> I really like the troll.
[20:27] <Pleshette> Well, overcoming the troll is one
[20:27] <Love4Fawkes> that is a good one sooner and prongs
[20:27] <nympheart> the DA
[20:27] <SoonerGryffindor> the troll was very good too
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> my 1st thought was the troll
[20:28] <futureweasley> I would have to say the knocking Draco on his butt
[20:28] <harryfreak359> the end of HBP when Ron tells Harry that He and hermione was going to go wtih him and help him
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> but the chess match is fabulous
[20:28] <Aislinn> I think the chess match was good one
[20:28] <Pleshette> And sitting together at DD's funeral
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> the end of HBP
[20:28] <SoonerGryffindor> that was good as well hf
[20:28] <MrMcGonagall> I love the scene where Hermione gets rebellious in OotP, too.
[20:28] <Aislinn> yes, hf!
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> when they say 'we go where you go'
[20:28] <Dreamteam> Meeting Sirius and Lupin in the Shrieking Shack
[20:28] <harryfreak359> Yes, Debbie, I love that part
[20:28] <Love4Fawkes> yes debbi
[20:28] <nympheart> that's a good one dreamteam
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> me too HF smile
[20:28] <harryfreak359> Shows what good friends they are
[20:28] <Aislinn> that scene was beautiful hf
[20:28] <DumbleDebbie> sums it all up
[20:28] <harryfreak359> it was Aislinn
[20:29] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> When Ron is reminded of Hermione's empty chair before he faces the spiders
[20:29] <Dreamteam> I loved it when they all stunned Snape at the same time in the Shack
[20:29] <futureweasley> when Hermione was Petrified
[20:29] <ProngsPatronus> I aklso like their teas with hagrid
[20:29] <Pleshette> Yes Dreamteam
[20:29] <DumbleDebbie> aww FW
[20:29] <futureweasley> and she gave them the clues from her hospital bed
[20:29] <DumbleDebbie> yes, that was a great scene
[20:29] <harryfreak359> yes, Future, that's a good one too
[20:29] <futureweasley> how's about the Polyjuice incident
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[20:30] <futureweasley> hi adam!
[20:30] <DumbleDebbie> adam!!!
[20:30] <Aislinn> I love that Harry is always so eager to go tell the other two the latest thing he has discovered
[20:30] <Pleshette> Hey adamgryff!
[20:30] <DumbleDebbie> hug
[20:30] <nympheart> hi adam
[20:30] <MrMcGonagall> Hi, Adam!
[20:30] <fawkes28> hi adam!
[20:30] <Aislinn> Hi adam
[20:30] <adamgryff> hi all!
[20:30] <ProngsPatronus> I like best of all that they never stop being a trio--even when one is not physically with them
[20:30] <DumbleDebbie> that's neat PP
[20:30] <harryfreak359> and in OotP when Ron and Hermione stick together with Harry when everyone else thinks he's lying
[20:30] <harryfreak359> Yes, Prongs
[20:30] <Dreamteam> Another good one was after the First Task when Ron realised that Harry hadn't put his own name in the Goblet
[20:30] <harryfreak359> hi Adam!
[20:30] <Love4Fawkes> yes dream, that's great
[20:31] <DumbleDebbie> yep dreamteam. and we're thnking *finally* they've made up
[20:31] <ProngsPatronus> notice that both Ron and hermione were in the lake
[20:31] <harryfreak359> Yup Debbie
[20:31] <futureweasley> What is your least favorite Trio moment throughout the first 6 books?
[20:31] <harryfreak359> Well, when Hermione and Ron were mad at each other in HBP
[20:31] <nympheart> when Harry is screaming at Ron and Hermione in GP
[20:31] <Aislinn> the fights about the rat and cat in PoA
[20:31] <DumbleDebbie> capslock Harry
[20:31] <Pleshette> When they're in Trelawney's class and Hermione starts making snide remarks and the boys are shocked
[20:31] <Pleshette> as a favorite that is
[20:31] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Yule Ball was my least favourite
[20:32] <harryfreak359> Yes, the yule ball too
[20:32] <Dreamteam> I don't think I've got one.
[20:32] <Love4Fawkes> when ron and hermione are so angry at each other over lavender and harry is stuck in the middle
[20:32] <futureweasley> when Hermione is trying to lead Prof Umbridge away from Hogwarts and they run into the Centaurs
[20:32] <ProngsPatronus> they are the most separated there
[20:32] <futureweasley> yes Love, that was bad
[20:32] <Pleshette> Me too Love 4 f
[20:32] <harryfreak359> When Harry blocks them out in the middle of OotP when Mr Weasly was in St. Mungos
[20:32] <nympheart> really, fw?
[20:32] <fawkes28> sooner's least favorite is when ron and harry fought
[20:32] <fawkes28> she says because Harry was so miserable
[20:32] <adamgryff> yes hf
[20:32] <DumbleDebbie> yeah the GoF fight is bad
[20:33] <futureweasley> I think Hermione wasn't using the sense God gave her and put them all in grave danger
[20:33] <nympheart> she was trying
[20:33] <harryfreak359> I agree with Sooner too
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[20:33] <ProngsPatronus> I agree with sooner
[20:33] <DumbleDebbie> yes, HF
[20:33] <DumbleDebbie> hi dubes
[20:33] <Dreamteam> Yes hf359 that's a possible contender
[20:33] <Dubes> Heyo smile
[20:33] <ProngsPatronus> I hate it when they fight amongst wach other
[20:33] <harryfreak359> hi dubes
[20:33] <Dubes> Heyo
[20:33] <Dubes> Sorry to interrupt, what are we on with the Trio?
[20:33] <futureweasley> hi Dubes
[20:34] <futureweasley> repeat of the q: What is your least favorite Trio moment throughout the first 6 books?
[20:34] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Why do Hermione and Ron bicker so much?
[20:34] <Dubes> Ok, thanks bud.
[20:34] <DumbleDebbie> because the love each other
[20:34] <futureweasley> because they are in love
[20:34] <Love4Fawkes> there is a fine line between love and hate
[20:34] <futureweasley> lol
[20:34] <harryfreak359> Because that's how they are
[20:34] <DumbleDebbie> kids!
[20:34] <Dubes> And they are clearly on love!
[20:34] <nympheart> because the didn't figure out that they're made for each other
[20:34] <ProngsPatronus> because the head and the heart are rarely in agreement in most folks
[20:34] <futureweasley> yes Love, you're absolutely right
[20:34] <MrMcGonagall> I can't really decide. Probably the quarrel over the Firebolt.
[20:34] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> When Ron wouldn't believe Harry didn't put his name in the GOF
[20:34] <Dreamteam> because each cares about the opinion of the other
[20:34] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr M
[20:34] <adamgryff> lol
[20:35] <Dubes> haha
[20:35] <harryfreak359> Yes, Wagga, that made me quite mad at Ron
[20:35] <MrMcGonagall> I just wanted to smack Harry and Ron for not listening to reason.
[20:35] <futureweasley> With the Ron/Hermione ship being all but spelled out for us by the end of Half Blood Prince, what are you feelings about romance within the Trio? Does it affect the overall dynamic of the Trio? How so?
[20:35] <Dubes> xD Mr.M
[20:36] <Love4Fawkes> i think its about time!
[20:36] <DumbleDebbie> well it did when Won-won was being an idiot
[20:36] <nympheart> my first thought was "finally!"
[20:36] <Aislinn> I think that their friendship will survive the evolution into a new pattern
[20:36] <ProngsPatronus> I think that it is good they finally are in agreement
[20:36] <adamgryff> I don't think it does,
[20:36] <Dreamteam> Maybe Ron and Hermione will argue less
[20:36] <Dubes> All it does is exclude Harry... They'll be making out, and Harry will be in front of Voldy all alone. "Uhh guys, rain check? HELP"
[20:36] <futureweasley> hopefully Dreamteam!
[20:36] <nympheart> my only concern is the possiblity of Ron and Hermione distracting each other when Harry needs them
[20:36] <harryfreak359> I think that it has in some ways hurt it, but I think that it will definitely strengthen it now that it is pretty much out there now
[20:36] <Love4Fawkes> hopefully it will strengthen the trio because ron and hermione will argue less and focus more
[20:36] <ProngsPatronus> Harry's head and his heart must act together in DH
[20:36] <DumbleDebbie> but now it's good, they finally realize that they belong together
[20:36] <futureweasley> let's face it, we could all do with a little less Ron to Hermione snarkiness and vice verse
[20:36] <ProngsPatronus> ron and hermione getting together symbolises this
[20:37] <DumbleDebbie> amen to that FW
[20:37] <Dubes> Agreed Fw
[20:37] <Love4Fawkes> i don't think they will abandon harry no matter what
[20:37] <harryfreak359> Agreed Future
[20:37] <adamgryff> yes fw
[20:37] <MrMcGonagall> Honestly, I'm not sure it will affect it all that dramatically.
[20:37] <harryfreak359> I agree Mr.M
[20:37] <Dreamteam> My worry is that it will affect their judgement when facing LV or DEs
[20:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally do not like the Ron/Hermione romance and would like to see only platonic friendships with the trio, but Jo had different plans
[20:37] <adamgryff> but they would be different characters without the bickering?
[20:37] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> they were too busy being nasty to each other in HBP to notice what Draco was up to.
[20:37] <DumbleDebbie> the trio would be just as strong as just friends
[20:37] <Dubes> If it'll affect the Trio in a negative sense, it'll be with Ron's jealousy creating tension between them.
[20:38] <Love4Fawkes> i don't think it will affect their judgement. either way, together or not, they've always cared for each other
[20:38] <ProngsPatronus> I think it goes deeper than shipping, Sooner--I think it is a powerful symbol
[20:38] <Dubes> He showed it with Krum
[20:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> I think she needed to make a point about relationships, too. Merope, Romilda etc
[20:38] <Aislinn> symbol?
[20:38] <Love4Fawkes> i'm sure they will still bicker, it just won't be quite as severe, hopefully
[20:38] <Dreamteam> PP I was thinking they might be too protective of each other and that might affect their judement
[20:38] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Ron and Hermione had that basic relationship which others who wanted to marry did not
[20:38] <ProngsPatronus> Hermione is the "head"--Ron, the "emotions" of harry's center
[20:38] <fawkes28> I think the romance adds humor to the books
[20:38] <Aislinn> yes, love, I think so too - it is their pattern of communicating
[20:39] <DumbleDebbie> it would be nice if they wouldn't snipe at each other so much
[20:39] <MrMcGonagall> I just don't see the ships being really central to main theme of the story.
[20:39] <ProngsPatronus> when those two are united, then Harry becomes clear in his purpose
[20:39] <DumbleDebbie> me either Mr M
[20:39] <futureweasley> what MrMcG?!
[20:39] <futureweasley> OMG you guys!!!!
[20:39] <fawkes28> you knew that was coming
[20:39] <nympheart> neither do I MrM
[20:39] * SoonerGryffindor agrees with Mr McG
[20:39] <adamgryff> lol future is in trouble
[20:39] <futureweasley> they are the heart and soul of the story!!!!!
[20:39] <Love4Fawkes> i have to agree with MrM
[20:39] <Dubes> Love is really starting to come into play, eg. Ron & Hermy Harry & Ginny Tonks & Lupin. These will play a huge role. DD called it!
[20:39] <futureweasley> !!!!
[20:39] <harryfreak359> I agree completely Mr.M
[20:39] * fawkes28 high-fives sooner
[20:39] <Aislinn> sorry, future, I agree with Mr M as well smile
[20:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> In HBP the Weasley question was whether Fleur and Bill were right to get married
[20:39] * futureweasley turns in her resignation
[20:39] <futureweasley> lol
[20:40] <Aislinn> lol
[20:40] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[20:40] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:40] <fawkes28> LOL
[20:40] <nympheart> love and relationships aren't quite the same thing, the relationships add to it in most cases, but it's not the main part
[20:40] <fawkes28> see ya
[20:40] <MrMcGonagall> I think Jo planned them all along, but I don't think they're crucial to the progress of the story.
[20:40] * DumbleDebbie hugs FW
[20:40] <Love4Fawkes> nymph said it best
[20:40] <harryfreak359> I agree again Mr.M
[20:40] <Dubes> me/ hug
[20:40] <MrMcGonagall> FW knew I thought this, because we talked about it this afternoon!
[20:40] <futureweasley> thanks Debbie
[20:40] <Dubes> ahh.. how do you do it again?
[20:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I have to agree Nymph
[20:40] <fawkes28> so we were talking about the trio and the role of romance wink
[20:40] <SoonerGryffindor> laugh
[20:40] <Aislinn> I think it would have been unnatural to not have romance as part of the story, but it is a sideline to the main themes
[20:41] <DumbleDebbie> put the slash in front of the 'me' dubes
[20:41] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> No. It is also about how Ron's family coping with new relationships as well
[20:41] <ProngsPatronus> I am not much of a shipper--sorry
[20:41] * Dubes thanks DumbleDebbie
[20:41] <MrMcGonagall> I agree, Aislinn.
[20:41] <futureweasley> I think that Ron and Hermione being united of a different emotional front will essentially help the trio?
[20:41] <harryfreak359> Niether am I Prongs
[20:41] <DumbleDebbie> np Dubes
[20:41] <futureweasley> not ?, but !
[20:41] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn
[20:41] <Dubes> I think Ron's jealous-rampage isn't over. It will hurt them I think.
[20:41] <Aislinn> Yes, future, that I would agree with
[20:41] <Dubes> Krum is coming back, remember?
[20:42] <nympheart> with the return of Viktor, I can see a bit
[20:42] <ProngsPatronus> I think that Ron and hermione will become more untied in purpose behind harry
[20:42] <futureweasley> How believable is the Trio's relationship? Is there a limit to what lengths they will go to for each other? What are those limits, if any?
[20:42] <Love4Fawkes> well put prongs
[20:42] <ProngsPatronus> and this was not possible when they were picking at one another
[20:42] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Essay about that in Scribbulus
[20:42] <nympheart> I think it is very believable actually
[20:42] <harryfreak359> I think that it is very believable
[20:42] <DumbleDebbie> I think it's very believable, that's what makes it so apealing
[20:42] <Aislinn> I think that it has been portrayed realistically
[20:42] <adamgryff> I think they will go to the ends of the earth for each other
[20:42] <DumbleDebbie> and I think each of them would die for the others
[20:42] <Love4Fawkes> it is very believable they are true friends to the end
[20:42] <Dubes> I think Harry has saved the lives of the other two a few times. Death for eachother seems like something they'd do in a second.
[20:42] <Aislinn> the way that they have worked through changes and fights, and come out stronger afterwards
[20:42] <Love4Fawkes> everyone wishes for a friendship like that
[20:42] <futureweasley> I think Jo has written a very believable relationship...full of ups and downs
[20:42] <Dreamteam> I'm not sure there is a limit, they've already risked their lives for each other, how much further can they go?
[20:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree, very realistic, and they will go to the endds of the earth ofr each other if they have to
[20:43] <MrMcGonagall> I don't think that there are limits. It's a real friendship of the deepest kind.
[20:43] <Aislinn> I do think that they would do anything for each other
[20:43] <harryfreak359> I agree Mr.M
[20:43] <Love4Fawkes> i agree mr. m
[20:43] <ProngsPatronus> I think they have been teasted and tried--and not been found wanting, in the end
[20:43] <Pleshette> Yeah me too Ais
[20:43] <fawkes28> but the kind of friendship they have is not very common - it is believable just not common
[20:43] <SoonerGryffindor> They have each already risked their lives for each other more than once
[20:43] <nympheart> As long as they all continue in the same direction, their friendship won't change
[20:43] <ProngsPatronus> the trio would die for each other
[20:43] <Pleshette> They have a deep love for each other
[20:43] <futureweasley> I think they would die for eachother...they do have the most pure friendship
[20:43] <harryfreak359> They may get on each others nerves once and awhile but they would do anything for eah other
[20:43] <MrMcGonagall> A friendship forged by a troll.
[20:43] <Love4Fawkes> your right fawkes, its not common
[20:43] <harryfreak359> each*
[20:43] <DumbleDebbie> lol Mr M
[20:44] <harryfreak359> LOL Mr.M
[20:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Yes, but would they be able to live for each other?
[20:44] <Love4Fawkes> its hard to find three people all so devoted to each other
[20:44] <DumbleDebbie> sometimes the best friends are found in the oddest of ways
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[20:44] <ProngsPatronus> I think we all yearn for the same kind of friendship with others--which is why we like the trio
[20:44] <Aislinn> I think they WILL be living for each other wagga
[20:44] <DumbleDebbie> hi WM
[20:44] <futureweasley> hi wizardmonk
[20:44] <Pleshette> Hello wizardmonk
[20:44] <SoonerGryffindor> hi wizard
[20:44] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi wm
[20:44] <WizardMonk> hello
[20:44] <Love4Fawkes> hi wizard
[20:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> If Harry dies, Hermione and Ron may only have each other
[20:45] <Pleshette> I wonder if LV will use their bond to break Harry in some way
[20:45] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> and what would happen if one of them died?
[20:45] <Love4Fawkes> that would be awful wagga
[20:45] <harryfreak359> I am afriad of that Pleshette
[20:45] <ProngsPatronus> then the others would go on
[20:46] <DumbleDebbie> or use them as bait Pleshette
[20:46] <Love4Fawkes> true prongs, they wouldn't have a choice
[20:46] <MrMcGonagall> I worry about that, too, Pleshette. They're people that LV knows are close to Harry.
[20:46] <futureweasley> noone lives once LV chooses to kill them, right?
[20:46] <Aislinn> http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showtopic=37037&pid=1042571&st=0&#entry1042571
[20:46] <Pleshette> Yes Debbie that certainly could happen
[20:46] <DumbleDebbie> Harry did
[20:46] <Dreamteam> Harry can't die, JKR said she wouldn't rule out another book after school, but the others could die. I think it would damage the survivors for ever.
[20:46] <nympheart> except one fw
[20:46] <ProngsPatronus> because DD said it best--we don't really leave if someone is loyal to us in their hearts
[20:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Happens. I don't think that JKR would have spent so much time slowly building a relationship to see one of them killed
[20:46] <MrMcGonagall> Unless Harry gets between them!
[20:46] <Aislinn> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showforum=184. Don't forget to vote in the latest poll for the next WWW chat here
[20:46] <Love4Fawkes> and lv has already used someone close to hary to lure him in
[20:47] <Aislinn> link is above smile
[20:47] <futureweasley> Mr. and Mrs. Weasley have essentially adopted Harry and Hermione into the ranks of the Weasley family. How has the Weasley family affected the bond of the Trio?
[20:47] <Pleshette> So true Love4Fawkes
[20:47] <ProngsPatronus> I think it really puts it ina Wizarding context
[20:47] <DumbleDebbie> they've extended love to them, that has helped IMO
[20:47] <harryfreak359> I think that it has made them more like family and brought them closer
[20:47] <adamgryff> I think it has help tremendously in the fact that they are all welcome in the home
[20:47] <futureweasley> giving the Trio a "homebase" is so important
[20:47] <Pleshette> Strengthens them
[20:47] <Love4Fawkes> they have taught the trio a lot about love
[20:47] <DumbleDebbie> and it has given them time over the holidays together
[20:48] <Pleshette> gives them down time away from school
[20:48] <Aislinn> yes-- they are in many ways already a family
[20:48] <SoonerGryffindor> made it even stronger because it makes them a family on another level
[20:48] <MrMcGonagall> Harry is kind of in the position that Sirius was with the Potter famiglia.
[20:48] <Dreamteam> Its helped them form a bond outside school and lessons
[20:48] <adamgryff> yes pleshette and a place away from their troubles
[20:48] <fawkes28> this is a great question
[20:48] <Aislinn> true Mr M
[20:49] <Love4Fawkes> the weaselys also taught harry and hermione a lot about the wizarding world. things they wouldn't necessarily learn at school
[20:49] <harryfreak359> Yes, Mr.M
[20:49] <nympheart> true Love
[20:49] <futureweasley> showing 2 kids (other than their own) love and understanding is key to Harry and Hermione's confidence in their relationship and their wizarding ability
[20:49] <Dreamteam> As an only child its given Hermione a feeling of belonging to a larger family
[20:49] <SoonerGryffindor> very good future
[20:49] <Love4Fawkes> yes dream, and harry too
[20:49] <MrMcGonagall> It's a sign of the depth of Harry and Ron's friendship that Harry is practically a member of the Weasley family.
[20:49] <Pleshette> Such great points everyone smile
[20:49] <harryfreak359> I agrree Future
[20:49] <futureweasley> Which member of the Trio do you most closely identify with?
[20:49] <DumbleDebbie> nice FW
[20:49] <Aislinn> Arthur and dMolly are such great role models of what a relationship can be
[20:49] <ProngsPatronus> there is a lot of stability in that house--upheavals, yes, but overall stability that is very reassuring to the trio, I think
[20:50] <DumbleDebbie> Hermione
[20:50] <nympheart> Hermione, I think
[20:50] <Aislinn> probably Hermione
[20:50] <Pleshette> I'd say Ron in some ways
[20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> future....er... which trio are we talking about
[20:50] <Love4Fawkes> yup, hermione
[20:50] <ProngsPatronus> Harry
[20:50] <ProngsPatronus> he's my man
[20:50] <harryfreak359> Kind of a Hermione/ Harry ix
[20:50] <Dreamteam> Probably Ron, my rebellious side smile
[20:50] <fawkes28> LOL
[20:50] <harryfreak359> mix*
[20:50] <adamgryff> I have to go with harry
[20:50] <MrMcGonagall> All he needs to do is have Molly yell at him and dye his hair, and Harry's all set.
[20:50] <Pleshette> I'm definitely not a Hermione, lol
[20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> Harry
[20:50] <nympheart> a bit of Harry too
[20:50] <Aislinn> lol Mr M
[20:50] <DumbleDebbie> well, I identify most with Sooner if it's the OKC trio
[20:50] <DumbleDebbie> ;)
[20:50] <fawkes28> oh, this is easily - I am definitely a Hermione
[20:50] <futureweasley> I think I am a very extreme mix of Hermione and Ron
[20:50] <fawkes28> by far
[20:50] <SoonerGryffindor> I am such a Harry that its not even funny
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[20:51] <MrMcGonagall> Probably Hermione the most, but Harry often.
[20:51] <ProngsPatronus> well, here's the companion question--what does it say about you when you pick one of them?
[20:51] <DumbleDebbie> LOL
[20:51] <fawkes28> awww I love the Trio
[20:51] <Love4Fawkes> i'm a hermione with a touch of both harry and ron
[20:51] <nympheart> I am not a Ron
[20:51] <SoonerGryffindor> I dont know the answer to that Prongs
[20:51] <Aislinn> depends on what aspect of their personality you are identifying with
[20:51] <Dreamteam> that I know I'm stubborn
[20:51] <adamgryff> that trouble always seems to find me pp
[20:51] <Love4Fawkes> that's true aislinn
[20:51] <ProngsPatronus> yes, it does
[20:51] <MrMcGonagall> I am not Ronnish at all.
[20:51] <harryfreak359> I agreed Aislinn
[20:51] <Pleshette> Well, fear of spiders, lack of confidence at times, love a good joke, strong sense of loyalty and family
[20:51] <Pleshette> yep, I'm Ronette
[20:52] <DumbleDebbie> I've got some characteristics of Ron and Harry too though
[20:52] <harryfreak359> I have that bossy, researching attitude of Hermione
[20:52] <Dreamteam> Yes, I'm scared of spiders too
[20:52] <Love4Fawkes> i see my family in ron's family
[20:52] <futureweasley> Are there any observations or opinions you have on the Trio's relationship that have not been addressed today that you would like to discuss?
[20:52] <Pleshette> I don't have red hair though ;)
[20:52] <harryfreak359> I am terrified of spiders
[20:52] <Aislinn> Hermione's intellectual bent, and her strong sense of right and wrong are the things I identify with
[20:52] <Aislinn> I admire Harry the most though, I think
[20:52] <MrMcGonagall> I'm with you there, Aislinn.
[20:52] <harryfreak359> I agree Aislinn
[20:52] <ProngsPatronus> I think that the trio is an arrow aimed at LV's heart
[20:53] <Love4Fawkes> me too aislinn
[20:53] <ProngsPatronus> and at the heart of darkness he represents
[20:53] <Pleshette> Oo...love it Prongs!
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[20:53] <Love4Fawkes> well said Prongs
[20:53] <nympheart> LV has a heart?
[20:53] <Pleshette> heh heh
[20:53] <Love4Fawkes> lol, a dark one
[20:53] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:53] <DumbleDebbie> yes, Aislinn, Hermione's intellect, Ron's loyalty, and Harry's wanting to help people
[20:53] <ProngsPatronus> three sizes too small
[20:53] <DumbleDebbie> lol PP
[20:53] <nympheart> lol PP
[20:53] <Pleshette> at least!
[20:54] <nympheart> my opinion is Tom has one, LV doesn't
[20:54] <futureweasley> I just hope, no matter how "dark" Harry's circumstances get, that the other members of the Trio will be there to pick him up when he falls
[20:54] <Love4Fawkes> lol prongs, but he's way worse than that. there's no hope for LV
[20:54] <DumbleDebbie> yeah Pleshette, only 3?
[20:54] <ProngsPatronus> I like Harry's acceptance of his role as the wounded/damaged healer of the Wizarding World
[20:54] <DumbleDebbie> At some point though FW, I think Harry will have to go it alone
[20:54] <futureweasley> right
[20:54] <DumbleDebbie> in the very end
[20:54] <nympheart> the last fight will be Harry's
[20:54] <Love4Fawkes> yes nymph, but tom doesn't exsist anymore
[20:54] <harryfreak359> I agree Debbie
[20:54] <nympheart> I think he's there somewhere
[20:54] <Pleshette> And they'll be there for him when he returns *crosses fingers*
[20:55] <Love4Fawkes> i think he's long gone
[20:55] * DumbleDebbie crosses her fingers and toes
[20:55] <Aislinn> Let's hope so, pleshette!
[20:55] <MrMcGonagall> I can't cross my toes.
[20:55] <futureweasley> The Trio: Live or Die?
[20:55] <fawkes28> I pick half because I wanted to beat HF
[20:55] <SoonerGryffindor> live, live, live
[20:55] <Pleshette> I do Ais! With all my heart!
[20:55] <nympheart> all live
[20:55] <Aislinn> Live, Live, Live
[20:55] <DumbleDebbie> one from each foot Mr M wink
[20:55] <Love4Fawkes> live!
[20:55] <futureweasley> Live Live and Live
[20:55] <DumbleDebbie> live
[20:55] <adamgryff> they all must live
[20:55] <harryfreak359> Live!
[20:55] <Pleshette> Live, live, live
[20:55] <Dreamteam> Live, please JKR live
[20:55] <fawkes28> hf??
[20:55] <futureweasley> even after live, the trio will live on
[20:55] <harryfreak359> biggrin
[20:55] <ProngsPatronus> does anyone think it is strange how Ronwas 'scored' by the brains in the Minisrty--and he "scored" with hermione?
[20:55] <fawkes28> i picked half because of you sad
[20:56] <harryfreak359> hahaha
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[20:56] <Pleshette> lol Prongs
[20:56] <nympheart> I never connected those Prongs
[20:56] <DumbleDebbie> lol PP
[20:56] <fawkes28> hi owling
[20:56] <harryfreak359> well, I hope they live...though half-live is a good choice I think too
[20:56] <ProngsPatronus> the trio will always live, though some might be there in spirit only
[20:56] <Owling> hi
[20:56] <Aislinn> before we go, I'd like to announce an addition to the Corner Booth team. Mr McGonagall has agreed to join the insanity, oops, I mean the fun that is modding this booth.
[20:56] <Pleshette> Maybe that was the reason for the brain attack, eh?
[20:56] <Owling> i just missed the live chat
[20:56] <fawkes28> WOOT!!!
[20:56] <nympheart> yay!
[20:56] <SoonerGryffindor> Woot! for our new Staff member!!!
[20:56] <adamgryff> yeah!!!
[20:56] <harryfreak359> WOOT!
[20:56] <Pleshette> Oh, how wonderful!
[20:56] <DumbleDebbie> congrats Mr M
[20:56] <Aislinn> Welcome to Mr M!!!
[20:56] <ProngsPatronus> congrats, Mr M
[20:56] <harryfreak359> Yay Mr.M!!!!
[20:57] <Love4Fawkes> congrast mr. m!
[20:57] <Dreamteam> congrats Mr McG
[20:57] <Love4Fawkes> sorry, congrats
[20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> HOw much fun will this be guys?
[20:57] <fawkes28> wooty woot woot for our new mod
[20:57] <Pleshette> You are one brave man!
[20:57] <fawkes28> only for you mr. m. - only for you!
[20:57] <futureweasley> welcome MrMcG, it will be fun to have you on the team, and I look forward to chatting with you in the Corner Booth!
[20:57] <fawkes28> our only guy of the bunch
[20:57] <MrMcGonagall> Thanks everybody. After meeting some of the CB gals today, I think I must be crazy. It's a job requirement.
[20:57] <Aislinn> isn't he, Pleshette? laugh
[20:57] <fawkes28> LOL
[20:57] <harryfreak359> lol
[20:57] <adamgryff> lol
[20:57] * futureweasley starts the group hug!!
[20:57] <SoonerGryffindor> And now before the official group hug, we had another group hug earlier today that we want to share
[20:57] * nympheart joins in
[20:57] <ProngsPatronus> Mr. M--you have acquired a herm!
[20:57] <futureweasley> http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/remmi916/TheGroupHug.jpg for our real "group hug"
[20:57] <Pleshette> me/ giggles
[20:58] * harryfreak359 gives everyone a big hug
[20:58] <fawkes28> hehehehe
[20:58] <MrMcGonagall> Yay for the group hug!
[20:58] <fawkes28> we did it just for you guys!
[20:58] <ProngsPatronus> harem, even
[20:58] <DumbleDebbie> awww
[20:58] <harryfreak359> awwwwwww
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[20:58] <fawkes28> join in our group hug!
[20:58] <MrMcGonagall> Right before I had to head back to Tulsa.
[20:58] <futureweasley> see you guys next time!! Love you, love you, love you!
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[20:58] <DumbleDebbie> bye
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[20:58] <SoonerGryffindor> it was so awesome to meet in person finally
[20:59] <Aislinn> see you all next time!
[20:59] <adamgryff> bye guys
[20:59] <Love4Fawkes> bye everyone
[20:59] <MrMcGonagall> Bye, everyone!
[20:59] <SoonerGryffindor> bye everyone
[20:59] <harryfreak359> bye everyone!
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[20:59] <Dreamteam> night everyone
[20:59] <futureweasley> goodnight all
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[21:00] <futureweasley> thanks for coming dreamteam
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[21:00] <SoonerGryffindor> everyone have a good night
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