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Post-Prince Predictions Chat: hp7.com, Chapter on “Hogwarts, A Future?”
March 25, 2007
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[15:00] <MrMcGonagall> The Reading Group Chat is now concluding, but please feel free to remain in the Booth for the Post-Prince Predictions chat on Aislinn’s HP Seven essay on “Hogwarts, A Future?” Questions will begin at a quarter past the hour.
[15:00] <JaneMarple9> wheeeeeeeeee biggrin
[15:00] <fawkes28> so now we get to just chat and shoot the breeze smile
[15:01] <Aislinn> thanks for the great discussion on the OotP chapters, folks!
[15:01] <SillyPutty> woot!
[15:01] <Love4Fawkes> So sorry, but I can't stay for the next chat. sad I'm sure it will be a great chat. Aislinn's essay is great. everyone enjoy!!
[15:01] <MagicalKreacher> Well this was a fun first Corner booth RG chat experience
[15:01] <mollywobbles23> woo-hoo!
[15:01] <JaneMarple9> this is why I love the booth!
[15:01] <Aislinn> we're glad you joined us, MK
[15:01] <Love4Fawkes> Hope to see you around more magicalkreacher
[15:01] <VBug119> Thanks for the great chat! I wish I could stay for the next one, but I have to go.
[15:01] <Love4Fawkes> bye everyone
[15:01] <MagicalKreacher> I can't stay either : it's already 9 PM here and I haven't had dinner yet
[15:01] <JaneMarple9> and it isn't over yet MagicalKreacher!
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[15:01] <MagicalKreacher> I will certainly be back! It's great in here
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[15:02] <fawkes28> it was good to have you, MK
[15:02] <JaneMarple9> another 2 hours of fun!
[15:02] <Aislinn> we'll see you soon, then smile
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[15:02] <MagicalKreacher> Bye everybody and see you soon here again! Thank you so much again
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[15:02] <fawkes28> So what does everyone think of the 784 pages?
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[15:03] <JaneMarple9> happy!
[15:03] <JaneMarple9> Although I still wanted 1000 pages - at least!
[15:03] <fawkes28> me too, Jane
[15:03] <fawkes28> i was thinking it would be longer - i dont know how she is going to wrap everything up in only 784 pages
[15:04] <JaneMarple9> i still think i will need a wheelbarrow to bring it home in w00t2
[15:04] <Aislinn> hi JMlovesHP
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[15:04] <fawkes28> well, i won't be able to do that since i am going overseas
[15:04] <SillyPutty> bye - need to go make breakfast
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[15:04] <JaneMarple9> lets see page 1 of DH - Lord Voldemort dies! What a start! smile
[15:04] <fawkes28> hahaha
[15:05] <JaneMarple9> too easy? smile
[15:05] <fawkes28> well, now that would be a bit boring
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[15:05] <dumbleydore18> I want the book to be so long that lexicon can finish their site (this was mentioned on WeasleyCast's mini-cast by Sooner as something I told her, I am that "shawna" she mentioned) lol
[15:05] <MrMcGonagall> Unless the real conflict is Snape. LOL
[15:05] <dumbleydore18> I have to go read the essay we are talking about BRB
[15:05] <fawkes28> oh Mr. M - let's not start that topic wink
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[15:06] <JMlovesHP> hey everyone!
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[15:06] <JulianBH> hi
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[15:06] <fawkes28> hi JulianBH
[15:07] <fawkes28> We are going to be chatting about Aislinn's essay on Hogwarts - woo hoo
[15:08] <JaneMarple9> yeah
[15:08] <fawkes28> it is such a great topic smile
[15:10] <fawkes28> Jane, I think I will join you yeah
[15:10] <JaneMarple9> smile
[15:10] <MrMcGonagall> This is a great topic. Unfortunately, I'll have to leave the chat half an hour early. I'm a sad panda.
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[15:10] <mollywobbles23> oops
[15:11] <fawkes28> awww Mr. M
[15:11] <mollywobbles23> hehe, "sad panda."
[15:11] * fawkes28 gives Mr. M an early group hug
[15:11] <MrMcGonagall> But, I was able to be here for the whole RG chat, which was a plus.
[15:11] <dumbleydore18> woo! very good essay!
[15:12] <dumbleydore18> can't wait!
[15:12] <JaneMarple9> its a excellent essay!
[15:12] <fawkes28> we'll start at quarter after
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[15:13] <mollywobbles23> Harlem*
[15:13] <fawkes28> hey poet
[15:13] <Poet> hey
[15:14] <JaneMarple9> welcome back poet!
[15:14] <Poet> Hmm, the lag monster has got me again
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[15:14] <Poet> !botsnack
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[15:14] <antonin> about to start?
[15:14] <Expelliarmas> Snuffles needs to be walked
[15:14] <fawkes28> good to feed snuffles
[15:14] <Expelliarmas> in another minute, antonin
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[15:15] <Expelliarmas> While its easy to drift off in various directions, let's all try to have a fun chat by sticking to the topic for today. OK, moving on to the topic for the chat!
[15:15] <fawkes28> Each week our P3 chats are discussing one of the chapters from Leaky’s new project: HarryPotterSeven.com, which can be found at this website: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:bookseven
[15:16] <fawkes28> Today we will be discussing Aislinn's chapter "Hogwarts, a Future?" as we explore the wonderful building where Harry's magical education takes place.
[15:16] <fawkes28> At the end of HBP, Harry informs Ron and Hermione that he will not be returning to Hogwarts for his 7th year of magical education.... or will he?
[15:16] <fawkes28> Aislinn's chapter can be found here: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#static:bookseven/hogwarts
[15:16] <fawkes28> Hogwarts was built more than 1000 years ago by the 4 founders and has been noted by Jo to have changed quite a bit during that time. What are some of the changes that the castle has made?
[15:16] <Poet> I assume plumbing
[15:17] <Poet> Though it could have been around 1000 years ago. Nicer bathrooms/
[15:17] <ProngsPatronus> not necessarily--but it may have been upgraded!
[15:17] <fawkes28> i wonder how much they had to do since they use magic
[15:17] <mollywobbles23> yeah plumbing...
[15:17] <JaneMarple9> more staircases?
[15:17] <JulianBH> added security between OotP and HPB
[15:17] <Poet> The kitchens have likely undergone updates
[15:17] <antonin> lol
[15:17] <mollywobbles23> more dorms?
[15:17] <JaneMarple9> plumbing obviously
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[15:17] <Poet> The addition of Quidditch facilities
[15:17] <ProngsPatronus> I hope so, poet!
[15:17] <fawkes28> i am sure they have changed some of the rooms or maybe even added more rooms
[15:17] <dumbleydore18> new teachers, new rules, new mind sets
[15:17] <antonin> hi danielk!
[15:17] <danielk> hi
[15:18] <JaneMarple9> security - great point
[15:18] <Expelliarmas> I'm sure the use of magic by the teachers to modify and amplify the castle is better than that used by the weasleys with their burrow
[15:18] <Poet> More tunnels to Hogsmeade
[15:18] <fawkes28> it probably evolved over time with the needs of the students and teachers as well as what was going on in the outside world
[15:18] <JulianBH> security may be the only change ever discussed in the book
[15:18] <danielk> is the topic what changes will be made at hogwarts for book 7?
[15:18] <MrMcGonagall> Actually, the Quidditch pitch must have been an addition.
[15:18] <Expelliarmas> the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack was an addition
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[15:18] <JulianBH> not to say that it was the only one
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[15:18] <ProngsPatronus> as was the Whomping Willow
[15:19] <Expelliarmas> no, danielk, it's Hogwarts ... A Future, a discussion on Aislinn's essay
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[15:19] <fawkes28> Do you think that (presuming we see Hogwarts again) Hogwarts is going to make any changes to accomodate events in Deathly Hallows?
[15:20] <ProngsPatronus> we know the furniture has changed--the vanishing Cabinet wound up in the RoR, along with bunches of other stuff
[15:20] <Expelliarmas> someone may need to do an inventory of what's in the castle
[15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I think its interesting that the castle is always adapting itself
[15:20] <dumbleydore18> extra extra extra security
[15:20] <fawkes28> i am sure that some more measures will be taken to insure the safety of its students
[15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> like how it sealed off the headmasters office to Umbridge
[15:20] <dumbleydore18> more people will come togther and unite
[15:20] <JaneMarple9> i am thinking it will be much more secure
[15:20] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder if it will do something to help protect the students
[15:20] <Poet> No, I don't see the school itself changing much. Maybe the windows will get smaller? Maybe there will be more paintings serving as guards?
[15:20] <Expelliarmas> they might need to check certain students for dark marks
[15:20] <fawkes28> that is interesting, poet
[15:21] <JaneMarple9> and the houses will unite more - even the slytherins :-o
[15:21] <dumbleydore18> thats a thought expie
[15:21] <Poet> Some of the exits in and out of the building may close themselves off - like the lake entrance
[15:21] <fawkes28> i wonder if the portraits will unit to help protect hogwarts
[15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I was thinking that it would be nice if there was a barrier that prevented those with dark marks from entering the grounds
[15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be a nice protectin
[15:21] <Poet> I love that idea Sooner
[15:21] <fawkes28> the lake itself could perhaps help with the protection
[15:21] <Expelliarmas> well, the DEs got into Hogwarts through the help of a student
[15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> squiddy!
[15:21] <SoonerGryffindor> can be the new watch dog
[15:21] <dumbleydore18> portraits can't do anything but be portraits can they?
[15:22] <Expelliarmas> it wasn't because there weren't enough protections about the castle
[15:22] <JaneMarple9> or how about Fuffly?
[15:22] <ProngsPatronus> I expect the vanishing Cabinet will wind up as kindling
[15:22] <JaneMarple9> he'sgot three heads pretty good watch dog
[15:22] <fawkes28> well, they are good for being look outs, dd18
[15:22] <Poet> Draco borrowed some ideas from the DA. I love the idea that McGonagall might learn from the DE putting up a barrier that only they could pass through.
[15:22] <SoonerGryffindor> yeah, Fluffy is somewhere in the forest, isnt he?
[15:22] <dumbleydore18> that's true fawkes
[15:22] <JaneMarple9> yes the vanishing cabinet will - well....disappear biggrin
[15:22] <Poet> Yeah Sooner
[15:22] <ProngsPatronus> i agree, poet
[15:23] <Poet> I'm hoping they station dragons outside Hogwarts
[15:23] <dumbleydore18> I was like uhhh portraits can't fight...they can't leap out at enemies lol it would be funny...
[15:23] <SoonerGryffindor> that would be cool
[15:23] <JaneMarple9> oh that would thrill Hagrid!
[15:23] <Expelliarmas> the danger at Hogwarts came from within
[15:23] <mollywobbles23> Vanishing Cabinet is out.
[15:23] <fawkes28> that would be great, poet
[15:23] <ProngsPatronus> thereby fulfilling Hagrid's dreams
[15:23] <Aislinn> there were a lot of protections on the castle already, and although some of them were DD's and thus gone, I think there are still many in place
[15:23] <fawkes28> then it would give Charlie more of a role to play
[15:23] <JaneMarple9> norbert as head dragon biggrin
[15:23] <dumbleydore18> dragons are too dangerous though...
[15:23] <fawkes28> i think there are still some in place too, Aislinn
[15:24] <Expelliarmas> I don't know if they are necessarily gone, Aislinn; look at Mrs. Black's anti-removal spells
[15:24] <dumbleydore18> Dragon's could be air patrol...
[15:24] <JaneMarple9> dangerous dumbley? What makes you say that? biggrin
[15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> still, you have to wonder how the castle gave itself indoor plumbing
[15:24] <SoonerGryffindor> that is pretty impressive
[15:24] <Aislinn> well, he took some of them off when he and Harry flew back in, expie
[15:24] <dumbleydore18> dragons would be a good security but I don't see parents taking their children to a dragon infested school
[15:25] <Expelliarmas> thestrals would serve as better aerial lookouts
[15:25] <ProngsPatronus> Aurors, maybe
[15:25] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid has them trained
[15:25] <fawkes28> Hogwarts can only reopen if the board of govenors agree that it can remain open. What are your thoughts on this?
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[15:25] <Poet> I think they'
[15:25] <Expelliarmas> welcome to your 2nd CB chat, MK
[15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> my first thought is that I am glad Lucius is in jail
[15:25] <JaneMarple9> it could be in doubt
[15:25] <MagicalKreacher> And I'm back after a quick meal... Thanks Expie!
[15:25] <Poet> I think they'll let it reopen
[15:25] <ProngsPatronus> depends if any more of them had children there
[15:25] <SoonerGryffindor> so he cannot influence them
[15:25] <Aislinn> As I said in the chapter, I believe that they will re-open the school
[15:25] <dumbleydore18> yes sooner!
[15:25] <JaneMarple9> especailly seeming Fudge might influence the committee
[15:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think it makes sense that board of governors would make the decision, although they don't exactly have a history of wise decision-making.
[15:26] <ProngsPatronus> oh, I agree, Aislinn
[15:26] <Poet> But certain things would havet to be eliminated - Quidditch, trips to Hogsmeade....
[15:26] <fawkes28> i think they need to reopen the school - even if they only get a handful of students
[15:26] <Aislinn> at some point, they have to recognize that life must go on, despite the presence of LV
[15:26] <Aislinn> the school was open the last time he was in power
[15:26] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree with Aislinn that the school will open as well. I also think that people like Malfoy not in contol of the govenors makes this more likely
[15:26] <MrMcGonagall> I think it will re-open with far fewer students than usual.
[15:26] <ProngsPatronus> it was open during VoldWar I
[15:26] <fawkes28> well, Lucius isn't on it anymore so at least there is some hope for it being open again
[15:26] <Poet> Care of Magical Creatures may have to be cut, and maybe they'd need to set up a different way to get to the Greenhouses
[15:26] <ProngsPatronus> why wouldn't it open now?
[15:26] <JaneMarple9> well jo said no quidditch in book 7
[15:26] <MagicalKreacher> Plus school is elementary for a wizard in order to train and be ready if something happens
[15:26] <Aislinn> there will probably be some that won't come back, that's true, Mr M
[15:26] <fawkes28> well, i don't think it is safe to play quidditch
[15:27] <Expelliarmas> there's no reason for it not to open
[15:27] <JaneMarple9> so quidditch doesn't play a part
[15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> actually, it has not officially closed
[15:27] <fawkes28> but inside the castle they will be much safer
[15:27] <SoonerGryffindor> so it just needs to stay open, no re-open
[15:27] <JaneMarple9> oh i am sure it will be open!
[15:27] <Aislinn> that's true, sooner
[15:27] <dumbleydore18> umm...there are wizards that want to be taught magic, so if there are people who want to learn I don't see why they wouldn't close it. Life has to move on, they can't be living in fear all the time.
[15:27] <Poet> I think the quotes Aislinn included in her essay are 99.9% assurity of the school being open again
[15:27] <mollywobbles23> Barring something horrific, I think it will open again.
[15:28] <fawkes28> yes, dd18 - life does have to move on
[15:28] <Expelliarmas> I think it would reopen even if it were just to teach one willing student
[15:28] <Aislinn> yes, Poet, I just can't see Jo making statements like she did, if she didn't mean to have the school open
[15:28] <ProngsPatronus> besides, it is flying in the face of evil--and I cannot see McGonagall not doing that
[15:28] <fawkes28> hiding in fear isn't always the best way to live - school needs to continue
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[15:28] <Aislinn> it seems that was the decision the teachers reached at the end of HBP, definitely expie
[15:28] <Expelliarmas> hiding in fear is not living
[15:28] <Aislinn> hi ltbrave23
[15:28] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that most kids are safer there than in their own homes
[15:29] <JaneMarple9> students need to be taught about how to defend themselvbes from voldie
[15:29] <ltbrave23> hey all
[15:29] <ProngsPatronus> especially from fenrir
[15:29] <fawkes28> In a 2005 interview, Jo said that there would be a new DADA teacher for Harry's 7th year. How do you interpret this quote and does this information lead to you think that Hogwarts will stay open?
[15:29] <Poet> I think the school governors will come to the same conclusion as the teachers
[15:29] <Aislinn> I agree sooner
[15:29] <JaneMarple9> of course they are sooner - couldn't had put it better
[15:29] <ltbrave23> i think the school will stay open
[15:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that this quote does say quite a bit
[15:29] <JaneMarple9> well new DADA teacher - that means that they will teach at hogwarts
[15:29] <MagicalKreacher> The quote does let me believe it must reopen... Can't see who it will be though. I can't imagine Harry doing it (he's going to go off horcrux hunting)
[15:29] <Expelliarmas> i think the school will reopen, but that won't be *Harry's* DADA teacher
[15:29] <Aislinn> I don't think there would be a need to write a new DADA teacher in, if the school were not going to be open
[15:29] <Poet> Yes, I think when she said that "obviously they'll have to be a new one"\ - she knows the school will be open and she knows who will teach DADA
[15:30] <ltbrave23> it's still a safe haven despite dd's death
[15:30] <ProngsPatronus> well, if there is to be a new teacher, then there has to be someone to teach, and somewhere to teach--so that leads me to believe Hogwarts will open
[15:30] <fawkes28> i agree, expie
[15:30] <JaneMarple9> seems quite logical to me it will be open
[15:30] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, the fact that there s a 7th DADA teacher planned pretty much tells me that its going to stay open
[15:30] <dumbleydore18> she said DADA for Harry's 7th year meaning he's going back to school, it would be different if Jo said Hermione's 7th year. So my guess is that Hogwarts will remain open
[15:30] <fawkes28> Jo isnt introducing new characters so it has to be someone that we know
[15:31] <ProngsPatronus> besides--the bottom line is that there was a Hogwarts way before our boy Harry decided to go there--and will be, whether he decides to go or not
[15:31] <Expelliarmas> exactly P2
[15:31] <Aislinn> very true, Prongs
[15:31] <fawkes28> yes, prongs
[15:31] <MagicalKreacher> Well fawkes : couldn't she include some new but not-important-to-the-plat characters? It seems radical to now not one single new person will appear...
[15:31] <Poet> And Jo has answered the 7 books question more than once with something like, "yes there will be one book for each year of school..."
[15:31] <JaneMarple9> yes poet
[15:31] <MagicalKreacher> Indeed poet
[15:31] <Aislinn> it was open, presumably, in the time of Grindelwald, and other times when evil rose to power
[15:31] <fawkes28> yes, she could, MK
[15:32] <JaneMarple9> harry said he's not going back there - but it's jo who writes the books! if she wants him to go back - he has too! biggrin
[15:32] <mollywobbles23> well, yeah.
[15:32] <Expelliarmas> good point, Jane
[15:32] <fawkes28> Jo also told Katie Couric in 2005 that she would savor her final journey on the Hogwarts Express, which also seems to point to the school reopening. Again, what is your interpretation of this quote and does this information lead you to think that Hogwarts will stay open?
[15:32] <MagicalKreacher> I would find it difficult to think that HArry's entire year is going to be out of Hogwarts
[15:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this quote in combination with the first one, is pretty definitive
[15:33] <Poet> It would be very sad to not see Hogwarts for the final book. Jo loves it as much as we do
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I like how Aislinn chose both of these to use in her chapter as proof
[15:33] <ProngsPatronus> AP classes for Harry!
[15:33] <MagicalKreacher> Hogwarts isn't closing as far as I read Jo's quotes
[15:33] <JaneMarple9> well it seems to indicate that hogwarts is open and harry's going there
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[15:33] <JaneMarple9> remind me PP - AP??
[15:33] <ltbrave23> i agree jane i think harry will go back
[15:33] <SoonerGryffindor> and the fact that both of these quotes are very recent makes me think she is not going to change her mind on that
[15:33] <ProngsPatronus> advanced classes more like college courses
[15:33] <MagicalKreacher> Anti-Potter classes! AP :-P
[15:33] <JaneMarple9> right
[15:33] <fawkes28> yes, sooner - Jo quotes are nice evidence of things to come in DH
[15:34] <ProngsPatronus> more freedom
[15:34] <Poet> AP = advanced placement courses
[15:34] <Aislinn> that was one of the things that I found compelling, sooner - if it was only quotes from back at the beginning of the series, it could be that Jo changed her mind, but these were both after the release of HBP
[15:34] <JaneMarple9> could had been apparition smile
[15:34] <awlaisis> hello..i'm late. whats the question
[15:34] <MagicalKreacher> Sad there will be no Quidditch though. HArry doesn't seem to be able to keep away from his broom
[15:34] <SoonerGryffindor> right, because there are many more quotes, but some of them are from much earlier
[15:34] <JaneMarple9> oh i'm not sad - quidditch is boring for me!
[15:35] <Aislinn> yes, there are others from back in 1999 - I think they are still viable, but I understand if some people believe they may be misleading
[15:35] <MagicalKreacher> Jane : you're a true Hermione!
[15:35] <Poet> Sad, but not surprising that even with the school open there'd be no Quidditch. It is one of Jo's least favorite things to write.
[15:35] <ProngsPatronus> besides--Harry may change his mind
[15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that there will be no quidditch because of the war going on
[15:35] <fawkes28> yes, because they were recent quotes - i think she still is holding them true - but Jo has every right to change her mine
[15:35] <dumbleydore18> I think Harry will be a Gred and Forge...leave school early
[15:35] <Poet> I agree SoonerGryffindor
[15:35] <JaneMarple9> harry will still be able to fly without quidditch I think!
[15:35] <fawkes28> it is such a great series that even sometimes she is changes the twists and turns
[15:35] <MagicalKreacher> DD18 : I think Harry will leave early too
[15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> no quidditch is an indicator of how serious things are going to be
[15:35] <SoonerGryffindor> not that Hogwarts wont stay open
[15:36] <ProngsPatronus> well, we have precedent for the Quidditch games being cancelled
[15:36] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Sooner, that's the scary part... No place will be safe and everybody will have so much on their mind.
[15:36] <fawkes28> Its one thing for Hogwarts to stay open, but quite another for Harry to actually attend. Is it possible to have Hogwarts play a prominent role in DH, yet Harry not attend?
[15:36] <ProngsPatronus> yes
[15:36] <MrMcGonagall> Yes.
[15:36] <JaneMarple9> perhaps
[15:36] <SoonerGryffindor> I doubt it
[15:36] <MagicalKreacher> Not to attend at all : I doubt it
[15:36] <ltbrave23> i don't think so
[15:36] <Aislinn> not to me smile
[15:36] <Poet> Sure. Dumbledore was able to leave the castle a lot to go on quests. Harry will need to do research just like DD did.
[15:37] <Expelliarmas> yes, I can see Hogwarts playing an important role: LV covets the school
[15:37] <JaneMarple9> might be a prominient role for ginny and luna - too young to leave school
[15:37] <Poet> So there will be times when Harry has no leads
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[15:37] <MagicalKreacher> Poet : I think there will be some coming and going too for HArry
[15:37] <fawkes28> i dont think Hogwarts will play a primary role - at least as big of a role that it has played in the past
[15:37] <JaneMarple9> while the trio go off exploring
[15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that Aislinn makes a very good point that very few chapters have been written outside of Harry's POV
[15:37] <Aislinn> I think that in order for the school to play a primary role, Harry has to be there to some degree
[15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> for Hogwarts to be prominent at all, he wil need to be there
[15:37] <MrMcGonagall> I think he will be a student, but he's going to be coming and going quite a bit. good thing he has all those secret passages!
[15:37] <Aislinn> exactly sooner
[15:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree Mr M, I think he will be going in and out a lot
[15:37] <Aislinn> yes, Mr M - I thiink he will come and go like DD
[15:37] <JaneMarple9> yes Mr Mcg! the mauraders map will be very handy!
[15:38] <awlaisis> I think we'll follow harry mostly... but maybe Jo puts more chapters on other pov as well.. so it could. After reading this essay i really do believe so
[15:38] <Poet> And Harry has elves that could go do some research for him ;) so he could attend classes in the meantime. It's a good way to keep LV from knowing what he is up to
[15:38] <JaneMarple9> he'd be able to apparate this time - but not inside hogwarts
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[15:38] <dumbleydore18> yes, Hogwarts will unite as one and will figure this out by the end, (this gives me shivers just thinking about it!) They will help Harry in any way they can. Oh man imagine 1.000 plus students and teachers helping fight and standing infront of the school with their wands at the ready...oh amazing!
[15:38] <ProngsPatronus> he will have to come to some accomodation with the headmistress, though
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[15:39] <Poet> Harry knows how to get in and out of the castle very easily, so I have no doubt he could pull off being gone sometimes
[15:39] <fawkes28> it would be nice for harry to be part of the school but also to go off and do his own things
[15:39] <futureweasley> sorry I'm late
[15:39] <dumbleydore18> I don't think McG will care, I'm sure she'll let Harry leave, she's pretty resonable.
[15:39] <MagicalKreacher> McG will not be a huge obstalce I think : she has already showed at the end of OotP that she is going to help Harry through his school years to become an auror. She is not going to let Harry bend down to every rule.
[15:39] <awlaisis> dumbley thats a powerful visual image... oh yeah, make it happen Jo!
[15:39] <Poet> There are holidays and weekends as well where he can easily slip away
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[15:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I know that a lot of people insist that he will not have enough time, but I think he will
[15:39] <fawkes28> Harry will also be of age so she really can't do anything
[15:39] <JaneMarple9> hey greeneyes
[15:40] <Greeneyes15> hey everyone!!!!
[15:40] <MagicalKreacher> Hi greeneyes!
[15:40] <awlaisis> heya greeneyes
[15:40] <fawkes28> Back in 1999, Jo was quoted as saying that 'there will be 7 years of wizarding school and then Harry is a fully qualified wizard.' Do you interpret this to mean that Harry will be returning to Hogwarts for his 7th year?
[15:40] <ProngsPatronus> I don't know--I think he may have to let her in on the secret, because she could help cover for him
[15:40] <JaneMarple9> of course it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:40] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this is very telling
[15:40] <MagicalKreacher> I interpret this as "Harry will live" but that was far back, before she wrote DH. Alas!
[15:40] <fawkes28> that was a long time ago that she said it
[15:41] <Aislinn> We know that he has to accomplish his tasks this year, but from his perspective, he has no time limit in which to accomplish his task
[15:41] <Greeneyes15> i don't know really... it seems that harry has so much to do already in this last book
[15:41] <Poet> Yes. And if he survives, which I think he will, he and his friends will be glad to have completed 7 years of school so they can be assured of careers
[15:41] <futureweasley> I think the story chronicals Harry's 7 years at school...I think he will be back for one last year of school
[15:41] <SoonerGryffindor> I realize that is is from 99, but I think that Jo had the plan all along, and was freer with her earlier quotes than she has been for the last few years
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[15:41] <Aislinn> exactly, sooner!
[15:41] <ProngsPatronus> well, there are the NEWTS, too--he needs to succeed at them if he is to be an Auror
[15:41] <Aislinn> that is just how I feel about it as well
[15:41] <fawkes28> he cannot possibly complete a full year of school and destroy all of the horcruxes unless he uses a time turner
[15:41] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Sooner, she seems very careful since a few years
[15:41] <awlaisis> she might have just used harry as an example that you need 7 years at HW to become fully qualified... but you never know.
[15:41] <JaneMarple9> she's planned DH for years surely!
[15:41] <Poet> 10 years ;)
[15:42] <Poet> or more
[15:42] <JaneMarple9> question - is it NEWTS year the seventh year?
[15:42] <dumbleydore18> maybe because Harry wants to be an Auror that Tonks and MeM will teach Harry personally, like homeschooling in a way
[15:42] <Aislinn> yes Jane
[15:42] <Greeneyes15> but harry said that he wouldn't be returning to school didn't he?
[15:42] <MagicalKreacher> Well I do hope she didn't change Harry's lot lately and taht she is sticking to her initial choice (live or die)
[15:42] <Aislinn> he did say that, greeneyes
[15:42] <fawkes28> oh yes she has always had the end in mind and that quote does not necessarily mean that he will be sitting in every single class that year
[15:42] <SoonerGryffindor> right fawkes
[15:42] <Greeneyes15> so... i don't know...
[15:43] <Poet> Harry has already had 1 year of NEWT level classes, though there are things that his 7th year (2nd year of NEWT level) can teach him, for sure
[15:43] <MagicalKreacher> Harry's impulsive. He talks very easily but then again... he might not be on the Hogwart's express and still go to school afterwards, a bit late
[15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that we see Harry in actual classes less as the series goes on
[15:43] <JaneMarple9> ah! Now can you see Hermione refusing to go to Hogwarts and missing exams like that? biggrin
[15:43] <fawkes28> Harry seems to have his mind made up that he is not returning to school, yet it is not improbable to think he may change his mind. Is there anything Dumbledore possibly did ahead of time to make Harry change his mind and why would he want Harry back at school?
[15:43] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he would want Harry back for the protection aspect of it and I do think he knew ahead of time he would not be around
[15:43] <Poet> A letter, like Aislinn mentioned, or a pensieve "letter" of advice from DD
[15:43] <JaneMarple9> dumbledore may have put aside a letter for harry
[15:43] <awlaisis> nice idea dumbley.. i've thought about that harry being auror thing too.
[15:44] <futureweasley> yes, Aislinn points to the fact that DD uses letters to effectively communicate...I think that will come into play again
[15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> I cant quite decide how he did it, but I think he either left a penseive memory, or letter
[15:44] <fawkes28> well, maybe DD doesn't want him to be a full time student - however, i am sure he wrote him some kind of letter
[15:44] <dumbleydore18> the pensieve I presume
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[15:44] <Aislinn> I think that Dd would recognize that the school is the best place to use as a base of operations during the Horcrux hunt
[15:44] <MagicalKreacher> Dumbledore knows Hogwarts is a good hide-out and a good place to find answers and solutions... He'd want Harry there when Harry doesn't know where to go. This is his "home"!
[15:44] <JaneMarple9> telling him how much hogwarts would help him find the Horcruxes
[15:44] <GranjoGranger> I'm late and having trouble keeping up. Has anyone pointed out the obvious, that Harry does have a fuul month to get things started at GH and will maybe be led back to school.
[15:44] <dumbleydore18> will cause Harry to go back
[15:44] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Pensieve
[15:44] <JaneMarple9> yes the pensieve
[15:44] <Aislinn> yes MK
[15:44] <Poet> DD may point out that Harry doesn't need to attend every class, but that Hogwarts is a great station from which he can launch his quests
[15:44] <fawkes28> maybe DD left some protections for Harry at the school similar to what he did with the Dursley's
[15:44] <SoonerGryffindor> yes ganjo, we will address that
[15:44] <futureweasley> staying in school will be the most effective way to keep prying eyes away from what Harry is actually doing
[15:44] <MagicalKreacher> Pensieve gets my vote too. Although I'd like a real old-fashion will
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[15:44] <JaneMarple9> that is going to be so so importent
[15:44] <Aislinn> that is very true GranjoGranger
[15:45] <Aislinn> events over the summer will impel him back to hogwarts, in my opinion
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[15:45] <fawkes28> Harry can be very stubborn but i think something will convince him to go back
[15:45] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, Aislinn
[15:45] <JaneMarple9> yes Aislinn
[15:45] <dumbleydore18> argh! lag
[15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that since DD alone knew what was in store for Harry, he thought the situation over very carefully
[15:45] <Aislinn> I agree sooner
[15:45] <SoonerGryffindor> and he does seem to know how Harry is going to react a lot
[15:45] <JaneMarple9> yes i think dumbledore will persuade him in some way
[15:46] <ProngsPatronus> well, Harry is a lot like Dumbledore
[15:46] <JaneMarple9> either dead dumbledore or Aberforth
[15:46] <Aislinn> Dd had been preparing for the possibility of Harry going on without him since the beginning of HBP
[15:46] <GranjoGranger> Well he does want to be an auror, and that is pretty demanding. I too think education and the School itself are way too important to just disintegrate.
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[15:46] <Aislinn> It is quite likely that he would have left some sort of instructions and help in the event of his death
[15:46] <fawkes28> i think he had to leave instructions or something
[15:46] <Poet> Like Aislinn pointed out, Book 6 ended with them still at Hogwarts. There is time even before they head home to get a letter from DD - like if McGonagall comes across it in her office
[15:47] <JaneMarple9> yes being a auror is harry's dream job
[15:47] <Aislinn> or if there is a will
[15:47] <Poet> yeah
[15:47] <JaneMarple9> something to aim for
[15:47] <MagicalKreacher> I'd like there to be a will
[15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I do have to say that it will be concern for Harry's task rather than his education that is going to be DD's primary concern
[15:47] <fawkes28> yes, if he wants to be an auror then he needs to finish his education
[15:47] <JaneMarple9> oh yes MK I want a will too
[15:47] <MagicalKreacher> Harry has been a son to DD and a will would certainly put a certain official tone tot hat
[15:47] <Poet> He at least needs to take his NEWT exams, and attending a few classes certainly would help
[15:47] <SoonerGryffindor> there is always the chance that fawkes has his instuctions as well to deliver a message
[15:47] <JaneMarple9> well not MY will yet (I hope!) but dumbledores will
[15:47] <Poet> I love that idea SoonerGryffindor
[15:47] <dumbleydore18> hahaha I have to say this ...if there is a will (meaning Dumbledore's)....there is a way (the way for Harry)...
[15:48] <fawkes28> right sooner - perhaps when he comes of age or maybe sept. 1st
[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> rght
[15:48] <futureweasley> I hope fawkes delivers a letter...that would be very cool
[15:48] <fawkes28> it didnt have to be right after DD's death
[15:48] <JaneMarple9> nice idea sooner
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[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it will be right before his bday
[15:48] <MagicalKreacher> I wonder when and where we'll see Fawkes again btw
[15:48] <fawkes28> Is it possible that Molly or someone else from the Order is capable of changing Harry's mind about returning to school and what could their reasons be?
[15:48] <Aislinn> I think we will see Fawkes again, future
[15:48] <ProngsPatronus> or an owl--like his letters from Hogawarts
[15:48] <JaneMarple9> perhaps lupin?
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[15:48] <ProngsPatronus> yes
[15:48] <ProngsPatronus> Lupin
[15:48] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that if Molly tries to talk him into it, it will be for he concern on his education
[15:48] <Expelliarmas> I don't think molly will have that kind of influence on Harry
[15:48] <cbm> Hi
[15:48] <fawkes28> I think someone that he cares about as a family member will convince him to go back
[15:49] <MagicalKreacher> Lupin is a good idea...
[15:49] <JaneMarple9> harry really respects lupin
[15:49] <fawkes28> hi cbm
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[15:49] <Aislinn> I think that Molly will be very interested in all of them finishing their education, but honestly I don't think she will be the deciding factor for Harry
[15:49] <MagicalKreacher> Hi cbm!
[15:49] <Greeneyes15> i like the Lupin idea
[15:49] <JaneMarple9> and it is the last connection with James sad
[15:49] <Aislinn> he will listen, but have his own ideas
[15:49] <Aislinn> Hi cbm
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[15:49] <Expelliarmas> It might depend on who is the next DADA instructor and whether Harry thinks he still has something to learn
[15:49] <Greeneyes15> Yes jane
[15:49] <ProngsPatronus> I think Molly is wedding mad right about now
[15:49] <ravenmoonglow> McGonagall could persuade Harry to stay in school. He respects her.
[15:49] <cbm> What is the ?
[15:49] <MagicalKreacher> PP : indeed, the tiara and all
[15:49] <SoonerGryffindor> I honestly think that Lupin might be the only one to talk Harry into it
[15:49] <fawkes28> he knows that Molly cares about him but ultimately it will be his decision
[15:49] <ProngsPatronus> I don't think she will have time to worry about harry's decision
[15:49] <fawkes28> repeat of question: Is it possible that Molly or someone else from the Order is capable of changing Harry's mind about returning to school and what could their reasons be?
[15:49] <Greeneyes15> i think so too sooner
[15:50] <JaneMarple9> oooo the tiara w00t2
[15:50] <dumbleydore18> guys I'm getting too antsy! I need to get up and move around! I need to leave the chat, i've been sitting for 3 hours...lol...too long! Until next time all!
[15:50] <fawkes28> bye dd18
[15:50] <MagicalKreacher> Bye bye DD18
[15:50] <cbm> thanks, I do not think so.
[15:50] <SoonerGryffindor> bye dd18
[15:50] <Greeneyes15> See yas DD18!!!! bye1
[15:50] <dumbleydore18> bye guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:50] <JaneMarple9> take care dumbey! Big long chat today!
[15:50] <ProngsPatronus> bye, dumbley
[15:50] <Aislinn> I think that McGonagall may have information or something that might persuade Harry as well
[15:50] <awlaisis> i think only something that will help him find horcruxes will make him go there... nothing else.
[15:50] <awlaisis> bye dumbley!
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[15:50] <ProngsPatronus> yes, she was my second choice, Aislinn
[15:50] <fawkes28> really - you think McG will convince him, Aislinn ?
[15:51] <JaneMarple9> dumbley not dumbey biggrin
[15:51] <Poet> krum was karkarkoff's favorite. I can see Hermione thinking he'd be a good one to get info from if he is the DADA teacher
[15:51] <MagicalKreacher> I have always thought McGonagall still had a great part to play. Why all the silence around her? We must discover something or at least, she has to do something important
[15:51] <cbm> I think it would not be McG, but something from DD
[15:51] <JaneMarple9> hmmm krum
[15:51] <Aislinn> I think that McG may have more influence than Molly on Harry, fawkes
[15:51] <ProngsPatronus> all of these could have a factor
[15:51] <JaneMarple9> Jo did say krum would reappear
[15:51] <cbm> JKR said at least one DADA teacher will be female, so I think that would be the DH one
[15:51] <ProngsPatronus> but we are forgetting Hermione!
[15:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that as much as Harry respects McG, he is becoming more of an equal with her now
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[15:52] <JaneMarple9> and McGonagall might be good at pursuading
[15:52] <MagicalKreacher> Umbridge was female!
[15:52] <Aislinn> Umbrigge was DADA, cbm
[15:52] <cbm> thanks, I always forget her
[15:52] <Expelliarmas> Umbridge was a lot of things, but she was no teacher
[15:52] <Aislinn> what do you mean, Prongs?
[15:52] <MagicalKreacher> Officially, she was. Alas!
[15:52] <fawkes28> Is it possible that any of Harry's enemies might do something that changes his mind about returning back to school and what could that be?
[15:52] <Aislinn> she's one that I wish I could forget, cbm laugh
[15:52] <ProngsPatronus> Hermione may have a say in changing his mind
[15:53] <JaneMarple9> yes PP thats a idea
[15:53] <Aislinn> true, she may
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[15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> See, I have a theory that something might happen either at the wedding or when Harry turns 17 that might convince him to go back
[15:53] <cbm> No, Unless hogwarts is his only place of safety
[15:53] <SoonerGryffindor> and it might be something that DE's do that causes it
[15:53] <Aislinn> I think this is actually one of the most likely reasons that will send Harry back
[15:53] <JaneMarple9> hmmm like Draco?
[15:53] <Poet> An attack?
[15:53] <MagicalKreacher> Harry could have to return to school because he discovers something of great importance is there (horcrux or clue) or because he knows dangers is coming closer to Hogwarts and he has to protect someone or the school
[15:53] <fawkes28> I think that if Hogwarts were being attacked, he would have to go and protect it
[15:53] <Kneazly> Or back to school for advice from DD's portrait.
[15:54] <fawkes28> Harry considers Hogwarts his home and he wouldnt let anything hurt it if he could
[15:54] <JaneMarple9> Perhaps draco will reappear somewhere and talk with harry
[15:54] <MagicalKreacher> That's what I meant, Fawkes
[15:54] <ProngsPatronus> I ahte to bring him up, but the areas of spellcasting--closing the mind, and nonverbals, may help him decide
[15:54] <Expelliarmas> well, Harry wouldn't need to be a student to have time to see DD's portrait
[15:54] <GranjoGranger> I see it happening in the naturel order of things. Harry will need to use Hogwarts as a base, and he'll have the mosrt support there. He'll just go back. I see some rules being bent and everyone even the students being affected by the challenge. We already know there will be no quiddich. Maybe there will be increased defence training
[15:54] <Expelliarmas> that's a case of Harry admitting he needs help learning something, Prongs
[15:55] <Aislinn> I don't think he needs to learn that, prongs
[15:55] <MagicalKreacher> Still, Harry wants to go to Godric's Hollow first : will he go once he's of age, just after his birthday and then attend normally to HogwartS?
[15:55] <fawkes28> yes, GranjoGranger, Hogwarts would be a good place for Harry to come and go from
[15:55] <SoonerGryffindor> I still say something might happen that convinces Harry he needs the tools that only Hogwarts can provide
[15:55] <Aislinn> I think he rather needs to learn how to open up as much as possible, to draw in LV, or to get into LV's mind
[15:55] <ProngsPatronus> still--Harry may decide he needs to learn that
[15:56] <ProngsPatronus> besides--the real experts are at Hogwarts
[15:56] <ProngsPatronus> if he wants to learn something, where better to go?
[15:56] <Aislinn> as well as the library, where Hermione can help him find important information
[15:56] <MagicalKreacher> Harry may have no choice at all if, say, Ginny's in danger. Hogwarts would be the perfect trap if the DE could take it over. (not that I'd like that to happen and I'm sure it isn't going to happen)
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[15:57] <fawkes28> there are a lot of important things there - i hope it is nothing bad that convinces him to go back to hogwarts
[15:57] <Poet> The old Daily Prophets are there, and Hermione can look for reports of objects being stolen
[15:57] <SoonerGryffindor> There is also the possibility that somehting learned ether from information that Petunia may have for Harry as well as information that Harry may learn at GH could convince him he needs to go back
[15:57] <fawkes28> like the school or someone being in danger - i would hope he goes back before something terrible happens
[15:57] <Aislinn> ooh, that's a good thought, soone
[15:57] <MagicalKreacher> Sooner, I believe GH and Hogwarts must be linked in some way (letter left somewhere, etc.)
[15:57] <Kneazly> Maybe he needs to go back to unite the four houses against LV
[15:57] <Aislinn> r
[15:57] <MagicalKreacher> Yes Kneazly!
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[15:58] <Aislinn> yes, kneazly - I think that is part of what he needs to do
[15:58] <fawkes28> At the end of HBP, we saw McGonagall take over as temporary headmistress. If Hogwarts stays open, will she more than likely remain in that position?
[15:58] <MrMcGonagall> I think the clue to identify the Ravenclaw horcrux can be be found at Hogwarts.
[15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> when you look at it, there are so many different sources and reasons for Harry to be convinced to change his mind and go back
[15:58] <Kneazly> I wonder if Draco could be a part of that somehow
[15:58] <MrMcGonagall> I think McG will be headmistress.
[15:58] <fawkes28> I think McG will definitelt remain headmistress
[15:58] <Poet> Yes, she was Deputy Headmistress
[15:58] <Aislinn> Yes, I think she will be
[15:58] <ProngsPatronus> I think so--Dumbledore had enough confidence in her to name her his second
[15:58] <JaneMarple9> i'd wondered that too Kneazly
[15:58] <futureweasley> I think Scrimegour doesn't have any reason not to trust that she's the chick for the job
[15:58] <fawkes28> there is no better choice - she has earned her position well
[15:58] <JaneMarple9> I am thinking it will be Mcgonagall
[15:58] <SoonerGryffindor> I think a lot of it depends on the board of govenors
[15:58] <cbm> I would hope so, but if the ministry makes the decision anything can happen sad
[15:59] <MrMcGonagall> Unless the Ministry decides to exert a strong arm and put another Ministry flunky in the role.
[15:59] <Aislinn> and she has acted as Headmistress on at least one occasion already
[15:59] <JaneMarple9> no Scrimegeour and not fudge
[15:59] <Aislinn> when Dd was forced out in CoS
[15:59] <futureweasley> heck, I bet she'd even get Percy's vote of confidence
[15:59] <JaneMarple9> even worse thought......umbridge (shuddled!)
[15:59] <Aislinn> lol future
[15:59] <ProngsPatronus> we may see Umbridge try to get back some power at the school, though
[15:59] <MrMcGonagall> I'll admit the theoretical possibility that McG won't succeed as headmistress, but I think she's a shoo-in.
[15:59] <SoonerGryffindor> It wil be interesting to see if the MoM thinks they have a better candidate or not
[15:59] <Poet> And she's pretty strict and straight-laced. I think the board will be "for" her as Headmistress
[15:59] <fawkes28> McG is a powerful woman and will be a great headminstress - she is not afraid of the gits at the Ministry - if they challenge her, she will step up to them
[15:59] <cbm> Well Umbridge does have experience in the job sad
[15:59] <Aislinn> do you think she would get that close to the centaurs, Prongs?
[15:59] <MagicalKreacher> PP : I'm a bit afraid of what part Umbridge is going to play too
[15:59] <Greeneyes15> I really hope she stays as head. She'll be good. I agree with fawkes
[15:59] <Aislinn> I would think she would want to stay away
[16:00] <futureweasley> she's the rightful headmaster, as Aislinn pointed out, the office opened itself to her
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[16:00] <ProngsPatronus> LOL--I think she would want them kicked out of the FF
[16:00] <Aislinn> hi molly
[16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> The only problem that I have thiking that she is confirmed is that the Ministry is not exactly all that smart
[16:00] <mollywobbles23> hi
[16:00] <ProngsPatronus> and Firenze out of Hogwarts
[16:00] <MrMcGonagall> A lot depends on the board of governors.
[16:00] <Aislinn> yeah, good luck getting them out of there laugh
[16:00] <terivic> Umbridge would give MOM the control of the school... a long time objective of theirs
[16:00] <futureweasley> yeah, who are these people?
[16:00] <fawkes28> I wonder if DD expected some kind of challenge from the ministry and already has prevented them objecting to her
[16:00] <ProngsPatronus> exactly!
[16:00] <futureweasley> why do we not know who the governors are?
[16:00] <SoonerGryffindor> However, it is interesting that the castle accepted her beyond a shadow of a doubt
[16:00] <MrMcGonagall> If it's anything like the real world, wizards of wealth and influence.
[16:00] <Aislinn> ooh, how do you think he would have done that, fawkes?
[16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> politicians, I suppose
[16:01] <ProngsPatronus> and mostly purebloods?
[16:01] <futureweasley> no idea
[16:01] <ProngsPatronus> I think there might be a purge of the governors, though
[16:01] <ProngsPatronus> after Lucius
[16:01] <futureweasley> Malfoy was not one...he just had influence over them
[16:01] <Kneazly> At least Malfoy is no longer a governnor. Typically governors are teachers/parents/government/volunteers.
[16:01] <futureweasley> or was he?
[16:01] <cbm> I think that the castle will recognize her, who knows what the ministry idiots will do
[16:01] <fawkes28> I think he probably put together some document in his Will preventing the ministry from interfering with his successor
[16:01] <SoonerGryffindor> it does make you wonder how one even gets to be on the board
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[16:01] <MagicalKreacher> Malfoy was a governor?
[16:01] <futureweasley> I didn't think so
[16:01] <MagicalKreacher> I never thought he had that kind of power
[16:01] <MrMcGonagall> Scrimgeour could engineer a takeover of Hogwarts better than Fudge did, I think.
[16:01] <ProngsPatronus> Malfoy was indeed a governor
[16:02] <MrMcGonagall> I think Malfoy was on the board and got booted after the CoS incident.
[16:02] <futureweasley> but he went to the governors and threatened them during CoS to sign the petition to remove DD from office
[16:02] <MagicalKreacher> Wow, PP, that's a scary idea
[16:02] <Poet> I think Scrimgeour has his hands full enough with the MoM. I think parents trust the Hogwarts staff more than the MoM these days ;)
[16:02] <fawkes28> I think it would be neat to see DD still having power over the minsitry from beyond the grave
[16:02] <ProngsPatronus> I surely hope so, poet
[16:02] <MagicalKreacher> I think DD's death might actually puzzle Scrimgeour. He is going to be very careful with Hogwarts...
[16:02] <cbm> I do not think Scrimgeour is that competent, look how little progress they made in HBP, plus they did not purge the minister's office
[16:03] <fawkes28> If McGonagall is not going to be headmistress, who do you think is going to be in charge of Hogwarts the next year?
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[16:03] <MrMcGonagall> I have no idea. If it's Percy I'll die, I'll just die.
[16:03] <Poet> Not Fudge and not Umbridge
[16:03] <cbm> I would expect some character we only know by name
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[16:03] <Expelliarmas> no idea
[16:03] <ProngsPatronus> good dream, beside McG? Artur Weasley
[16:04] <ProngsPatronus> bad dream? Umbridge
[16:04] <SoonerGryffindor> If not McGonagall, I would think that it would have to be a MoM appointed person
[16:04] <MagicalKreacher> I can't imagine anyone else than McGonagall... Someone we don't know much about I guess...
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[16:04] <fawkes28> i dont think Arthur would want it
[16:04] <Kneazly> There aren't really any other likely candidates
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[16:04] <Expelliarmas> i would think it would have to be someone of some considerable skills
[16:04] <MagicalKreacher> Percy as the MoM appointed person? It would be funny
[16:04] <Poet> (Snuffles ate my post) Maybe one of the NEWTS or OWL examiners
[16:04] <Greeneyes15> hey, i'm gonna get going...see yas! bye1
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[16:04] <Aislinn> I can't imagine anyone else being appropriate
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[16:04] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Ministry is going to become more and more uncomfortable for Arthur
[16:04] <Aislinn> bye greeneyes
[16:04] <cbm> I would love to see what Ginny did to Percy if it was him
[16:05] <fawkes28> I would think that it should be someone that is already teaching at Hogwarts - although it should be McG
[16:05] <MagicalKreacher> Bat bogey hex, cmb?
[16:05] <ltbrave23> well they need someone with a reputation of power that would give the parents confidence in the school again
[16:05] <SoonerGryffindor> Honestly, you would think that the minstry would be too busy for petty games, but who knows?
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[16:05] <ProngsPatronus> lol--Slughorn, with his connections?
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[16:05] <fawkes28> that is exactly what i was just thinking, Sooner
[16:05] <cbm> But the ministry must be seen as doing something and messing with hogwarts is something
[16:05] <MagicalKreacher> Slughorn doesn't like fame, he likes luxury granted bythose who are... He would never accept such a dangerous position with big responsabilities
[16:06] <ProngsPatronus> petty is what they are good at, sooner
[16:06] <fawkes28> So everyone thinks it is going to just be McGonagall?
[16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I truly think that decideing to leave it open and keeping McG headmistress are dependent on each other.
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[16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> I do fawkes
[16:06] <Poet> No one overruled DD being buried at Hogwarts. McGonagall was incharge during this short period of time. I don't see them deciding over the summer that she's no longer the person to lead
[16:06] <MagicalKreacher> I think so, Fawkes
[16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> does anybody not think it is going to be McG?
[16:06] <MrMcGonagall> I'm inclined to think so as well, Sooner
[16:06] <JaneMarple9> i am sure it will be mcgonall!
[16:06] <fawkes28> If McGonagall does move into the headmistress position, who do you think will be the new Head of House for Gryffindor?
[16:06] <SoonerGryffindor> Hagrid
[16:06] <Poet> Hagrid
[16:06] <futureweasley> Hagrid
[16:06] <NYBookworm> HAGRID
[16:06] <ltbrave23> hagrid
[16:06] <ProngsPatronus> I think there is a chance, sooner--but possession is nine tenths of the law
[16:07] <terivic> has anyone thought about the possiblitity tht the 'big battle' would occur on Halloween--everything else happens then-- and the new head master/mistress woul be appointed once LV ws dfeated?
[16:07] <cbm> Hagrid or the DAFA teacher
[16:07] <Expelliarmas> i don't see Hagrid as head of house
[16:07] <MagicalKreacher> Hagrid I guess
[16:07] <JaneMarple9> Hagrid!!
[16:07] <ProngsPatronus> Arthur Weasley
[16:07] <futureweasley> Aislinn points out that there seems to be a circle of trust in that first meeting after DD was killed
[16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> terivic, that is not part of the chapter
[16:07] <fawkes28> ok i pick Tonks if she gets on staff smile
[16:07] <cbm> dada
[16:07] <JaneMarple9> it's so obvious to me!
[16:07] <MagicalKreacher> Expie, that why I "guessed" Hagrid... He couldn't really handle it
[16:07] <ProngsPatronus> I think both he and Molly will wind up at Hogwarts
[16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> we are discussing Aislinn's chatper in herrypotter.seven
[16:07] <terivic> oops, sorry
[16:07] <futureweasley> and I agree that Hagrid was brought into that circle for a reason
[16:07] <SoonerGryffindor> np
[16:07] <MagicalKreacher> Could Lupin return to Hogwarts (and attract HArry back to it doing so)?
[16:07] <JaneMarple9> oopies smile
[16:08] <futureweasley> Lupin is on special assignment
[16:08] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree that since McG called Hagrid up at the end of HBP that she probably has him in mind for the spot
[16:08] <cbm> Maybe magical
[16:08] <Aislinn> I think that it makes sense to think that Hagrid is a likely choice
[16:08] <futureweasley> I don't see him leaving that to go to Hogwarts
[16:08] <Aislinn> right, sooner
[16:08] <MagicalKreacher> Oh shoot, fw
[16:08] <mollywobbles23> Hagrid
[16:08] <fawkes28> i think that DD definitely would have wanted him to be the head of gryffindor
[16:08] <terivic> bye
[16:08] <Poet> Lupin won't be returning as a teacher because of the prejudices. I see the same thing keeping him from being involved at the school
[16:08] <ProngsPatronus> JKR said we would find out about married spouses of Hogwarts teachers
[16:08] <futureweasley> Arthur is a good suggeston...but I think that being the eyes and ears in the ministry might keep him from doing that
[16:08] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, dd placed a lot of trust in Hagrid
[16:08] <ProngsPatronus> what better way than the Weasleys?
[16:08] <Expelliarmas> Hagrid isn't even allowed to do magic openly
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[16:09] <MagicalKreacher> PP : that's why I thought of Lupin and Tonks too
[16:09] <futureweasley> besides, we have no proof that he'd be an effective teacher in transfiguration or the like
[16:09] <fawkes28> yes, but he doesnt need to do magic to be head of a house
[16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> right
[16:09] <cbm> DD placed a great deal of trust in a lot of people
[16:09] <ProngsPatronus> you eally need three spots filled
[16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> I think at this point in time a head of house needs to be someone McG trusts implicitly
[16:09] <SoonerGryffindor> Hagrid really fits that bill perfectly
[16:09] <Expelliarmas> i disagree with that premise; excelling in some area of magic distinguishes each of the heads of house
[16:09] <futureweasley> yes cbm...he definitely did
[16:09] <mollywobbles23> yep
[16:09] <fawkes28> McGonagall's appointment to headmistress would also leave the Transfiguration position empty. Who do you think may be qualified and able to fill this position and why?
[16:10] <Poet> Someone we've already met for sure
[16:10] <MagicalKreacher> Tough one, fawkes!
[16:10] <MagicalKreacher> Tonks?
[16:10] <ProngsPatronus> well, I think it has to be a gryffindor
[16:10] <futureweasley> maybe Tonks
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[16:10] <cbm> Tonks! maybe, if her skill is related
[16:10] <futureweasley> I like that magical
[16:10] <fawkes28> I would love to see Tonks there but I think she would be best outside of Hogwarts doing her job as an Auror
[16:10] <fawkes28> hey cloudpic
[16:10] <NYBookworm> kru?
[16:10] <Aislinn> I think that Tonks innate abilities might not make her the best teacher for this
[16:10] <Poet> An auror as a teacher might be nice, especially for the
[16:10] <Poet> Mom
[16:10] <MagicalKreacher> She could do two jobs : an auror inside Hogwarts wouldn't be too much at such times
[16:10] <fawkes28> i agree, Aislinn
[16:11] <ProngsPatronus> I think transfiguration must have been GG's area of expertise
[16:11] <Aislinn> she may not know how she does what she does, since it comes naturally to her
[16:11] <futureweasley> I thought Krum for DADA, but not transfiguration
[16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> I actually do not think that Tonks is a good candidate
[16:11] <futureweasley> he was a mess when he tried to transfigure himself into a shark
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[16:11] <NYBookworm> maybe the real moody?
[16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> she is too valuable as an auror
[16:11] <fawkes28> yes, he ws future - i dont think he would be good
[16:11] <ProngsPatronus> I agree, sooner
[16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> I doubt we are going to see any aurors take the teaching positions
[16:11] <Aislinn> have we seen anyone transfigure?
[16:11] <mollywobbles23> someone we've never met? or only briefly.
[16:11] <Poet> She had to do well ih her classes to get accepted as an Auror, so I think she is smarter and more capable than we realize
[16:11] <fawkes28> I think she would feel more valuable out there on the front lines
[16:11] <ProngsPatronus> not with a war on
[16:11] <MrMcGonagall> Hestia Jones. Only because we know nothing about her. LOL
[16:11] <SoonerGryffindor> its possible that it could be Fleur
[16:12] <Poet> Hogwarts is the front line, sadly
[16:12] <MagicalKreacher> Oh, dear Hestia
[16:12] <fawkes28> perhaps someone in the Order that we don't know too well
[16:12] <cloudpic> Is this DaDA were discussing>?
[16:12] <ProngsPatronus> she has trouble with ze grindylows, Mr. McG
[16:12] <cloudpic> (sorry I'm late)
[16:12] <MagicalKreacher> Fleur hasn't exactly been a superb witch during the Triwizard... But who knows?
[16:12] <Aislinn> we're talking about Transfiguration job, cloudpic
[16:12] * SoonerGryffindor wonders exactly what it is that Aberforth did to the goat. Maybe transfiguration skills run in the famly?
[16:12] <Aislinn> since we've agreed that McGonagall will likely be the Headmistress
[16:12] <Poet> Tonks was stationed in Hogsmeade during Book 6. I think the Ministry will encourage her to apply for the Transfiguration position
[16:12] <futureweasley> how's about Slug being the new Transfiguration, leaving Potions open
[16:13] <cloudpic> ahhh... I believe McG will teach trans and be Headmistress..
[16:13] <MagicalKreacher> Oh, Sooner, great thought! Aberforth and the goats...
[16:13] <Poet> It seems like the next step for Tonks
[16:13] <futureweasley> we see Slug make himself a chair
[16:13] <Aislinn> ooh, future
[16:13] <Expelliarmas> It might be a new character for that
[16:13] <futureweasley> and a right good one, too
[16:13] <fawkes28> that is interesting, future
[16:13] <Aislinn> we did see him do that, yes!
[16:13] <MrMcGonagall> Having plants in the auror office is too valuable to the Order to pull one away for teaching duties.
[16:13] <MagicalKreacher> Who would do potions?
[16:13] <Aislinn> he's one of the few people we have seen transfigure
[16:13] <fawkes28> or maybe Slug will do double duty - if they can't get anyone to work there
[16:13] <SoonerGryffindor> there is also the possibility that more than one teacher can take over other classes
[16:13] <fawkes28> or maybe McG will do double duty
[16:13] <cloudpic> If teaching isn't as demanding (fewer students, fewer classes?
[16:13] <futureweasley> depending on enrollment, yes
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[16:13] <SoonerGryffindor> between McG, and Sluggy
[16:14] <MagicalKreacher> I can see McG doing double duty though...
[16:14] <ProngsPatronus> there are the educational decrees to think about, though
[16:14] <SoonerGryffindor> they could probably both cover it
[16:14] <fawkes28> exactly, cloudpic
[16:14] <Poet> Hogwarts needs protection and I think it will make the parents and board more comfortable if an Auror was stationed inside Hogwarts
[16:14] <ProngsPatronus> McG will want to fill those positions herself
[16:14] <MagicalKreacher> PP, indeed. The decrees : so much to ponder
[16:14] <cloudpic> I agree, Prongs
[16:14] <fawkes28> i think she would miss teaching and if there arent as many students she may need to
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[16:14] <ProngsPatronus> I was thinking flitwick for DADA
[16:14] <fawkes28> or maybe it could be filled by different members of the order
[16:14] <MagicalKreacher> And Umbridge has been a teacher and High Inquisitor. Double duty is acceptable within Hogwarts thus McG could do both
[16:14] <ltbrave23> i agree poet
[16:15] <Aislinn> because of his dueling experience, prongs?
[16:15] <ProngsPatronus> he was a duelling champion in his younger days
[16:15] <fawkes28> maybe moody could teach a certain year and McG could do another, etc.
[16:15] <MrMcGonagall> True, fawkes, I think the class size will shrink considerably, which might make double duty easier.
[16:15] <cloudpic> LOL.. Umbridge setting a precident ..
[16:15] <cloudpic> ick.
[16:15] <MagicalKreacher> Poet, I think an auror within Hogwarts is a logical step too
[16:15] <fawkes28> There is also another teaching vacancy, that of the DADA teacher. Who do you think may be the one to fill this position and why?
[16:15] <NYBookworm> Bill
[16:15] <cloudpic> Krum
[16:15] <MrMcGonagall> I'm all for Bill Weasley.
[16:15] <ProngsPatronus> *sigh*
[16:15] <mollywobbles23> yeah, Bill
[16:15] <Expelliarmas> someone who isnt afraid of the DADA jinx
[16:15] <cloudpic> Krum was all but invited to return by Dumbledore
[16:15] <MagicalKreacher> Bill gets my vote but I'm not sure he'll be up to it
[16:15] <ProngsPatronus> Arthur
[16:15] <SoonerGryffindor> either Krum or Bill
[16:15] <Aislinn> I think that Bill or Krum are both good choices for this position
[16:15] <JaneMarple9> (((cloudpic))) you must have crept in!
[16:15] <ProngsPatronus> with Molly for Charms
[16:15] <fawkes28> see i don't think Bill would want to teach
[16:16] <Poet> Not Bill, unless Charlie goes to work for Gringotts with the dragons that guard vaults
[16:16] <JaneMarple9> Krum or Bill sound good for DADA
[16:16] <fawkes28> He is too hands on - out in the field type guy
[16:16] <JaneMarple9> or the real Moody
[16:16] <fawkes28> I don't think he would want to be "caged"
[16:16] <Poet> You need a Weasley brother at Gringotts still
[16:16] <Kneazly> How about Tonks?
[16:16] <Expelliarmas> I don't see Molly as a charms teacher, or a teacher for that matter
[16:16] <Aislinn> that would be interesting, Prongs
[16:16] <NYBookworm> Bill so he can teach Harry all aboutr curses to help w horcruxes
[16:16] <MrMcGonagall> I don't know that I agree fawkes.
[16:16] <MagicalKreacher> Krum is a good idea because of the schools of the world reuniting then... Which is important to beat LV
[16:16] <ProngsPatronus> she taught all her kids
[16:16] <fawkes28> He is more important at Gringotts right now with the goblins
[16:16] <MrMcGonagall> I think Bill would be an excellent teacher.
[16:16] <Poet> Krum would know things about Dark Arts
[16:16] <SoonerGryffindor> I personally think we might get a team of both Bill and Flerur teaching
[16:16] <cbm> She taught all 6 of her kids
[16:16] <Aislinn> maybe Molly would feel better about the kids being at school, if the two fo them are there to watch over them
[16:16] <cbm> 7
[16:16] <cloudpic> Prof. Sprout is rather like Molly in personality... I think Molly could teach,
[16:16] <Expelliarmas> why would Molly be away from her family during a war?
[16:16] <cloudpic> But Krum for DaDA
[16:16] <fawkes28> I think we will see him helping Harry in his capcity at Gringotts rather than at Hogwarts
[16:16] <MrMcGonagall> He gave up an exotic job with Gringott's to take a desk job in the home office.
[16:17] <cloudpic> He knows.
[16:17] <ProngsPatronus> she would be a dynamite house mother, too
[16:17] <cloudpic> But might not be trusted in the Order
[16:17] <SoonerGryffindor> I htink the only reason Molly might not be teaching now is that she has been kind of busy running a household
[16:17] <fawkes28> yes, but i think his role is meant to stay at Gringotts
[16:17] <Expelliarmas> i could only see Molly going to Hogwarts to teach if she were a widow
[16:17] <Aislinn> but the kids are all out of the house now, making it a perfect time for her to teach
[16:17] <fawkes28> at least he is out doing something that could possibly help the order
[16:17] <fawkes28> trying to convince the goblins is no easy task
[16:17] <Aislinn> not if Arthur were at hogwarts too, expie
[16:17] * cloudpic wants Expie to bite her tongue!
[16:17] <Poet> I can see Bill or Krum or the real Mad-Eye Moody. Bill only if Charlie went to work for Gringotts. It's a toss up for me
[16:17] <ProngsPatronus> if Arthur went, she would follow
[16:18] <ProngsPatronus> and he has Ministry creds
[16:18] <Expelliarmas> I also remember Molly kept consulting books by Lockhart to tackle the drawing room
[16:18] <cloudpic> I like that, Aislinn... in wartime there'd be a lot of "doubling" and the kids' safety would be more assured
[16:18] <ltbrave23> mad-eye is too important for the war to teach now
[16:18] <MagicalKreacher> Plus she still could have an eye on her little Ginny in Hogwarts
[16:18] <ProngsPatronus> the Ministry couldn't object to him being a teacher
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[16:18] <Expelliarmas> I can't see Arthur at Hogwarts either
[16:18] <MagicalKreacher> I think we desperately need DH now
[16:18] <cloudpic> I can see them both moving in... and teaching/working for the Order
[16:18] <ProngsPatronus> I think Percy and comapny will make life hell for Arthur at the MoM
[16:18] <cbm> I think the lockhart practical books were ghostwritten, or he stole them
[16:19] <cloudpic> He stole them.
[16:19] <SoonerGryffindor> I thint that Arthur is best placed at the ministry for now
[16:19] <ProngsPatronus> and he will want a change
[16:19] <MagicalKreacher> Sooner, Scrimgeour might want to use ARthur, indeed. Just to make sure he doesn't make the same mistake as Fudge did.
[16:19] <Aislinn> use him in what way, though?
[16:20] <ProngsPatronus> lol--as an agent for the MoM at Hogwarts
[16:20] <MagicalKreacher> Send him to keep an eye on Hogwarts while having teaching as a cover. It would be double-spy thing again
[16:20] <Aislinn> laugh
[16:20] <cbm> Maybe to get to Harry now that DD is gone
[16:20] <ProngsPatronus> rich, isn't it?
[16:20] <Kneazly> They're going to need Arthur for Muggle relations, as LV is going to start going after muggles again
[16:20] <Expelliarmas> to get close to Harry, Aislinn
[16:20] <Poet> You need an exciting teacher for DADA
[16:20] <MagicalKreacher> Arthur likes muggles but he isn't exactly competent with them
[16:21] <fawkes28> If Hogwarts stays open, how likely is it that Slughorn will remain to both teach potions and stay on as Head of Slytherin house?
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[16:21] <Poet> for sure
[16:21] <ProngsPatronus> I think he will stay
[16:21] <ltbrave23> i think he's staying
[16:21] <Aislinn> I think it is quite likely that Slughorn will stay
[16:21] <cloudpic> Very likely...he's a coward
[16:21] <cloudpic> He'd feel safer
[16:21] <MagicalKreacher> Slughorn will stay. He wouldn't know where to go now.
[16:21] <MrMcGonagall> I think he will stay. The outside world is as dangerous if not more so than before.
[16:21] <ProngsPatronus> his comfort and safety will be better served at Hogwarts
[16:21] <Poet> He needs the protection, and he's made friends with Hagrid. I think this will help Slytherin and Gryffindor to unite
[16:21] <SoonerGryffindor> I thnk he will stay as well
[16:21] <ph63915> Hogwarts is a good place to hide away
[16:21] <Expelliarmas> Slughorn would be doing what he used to do and stay out of the fray
[16:21] <fawkes28> i think he will be too scared to do anything else
[16:21] <MagicalKreacher> Good point about Hagrid and reuniting the houses, Poet
[16:22] <ProngsPatronus> good point, poet
[16:22] <cbm> DD proved he could be found while in hiding so I think he will stay to be safe
[16:22] <fawkes28> he was on the run before going from house to house - at least he has some safety at hogwarts
[16:22] <ProngsPatronus> he would want to be close to his new source of income
[16:22] <SoonerGryffindor> Oooh, how nice for the head of Gryff and Slyth to be friends?
[16:22] <cloudpic> Perhaps Slughorn could attract some "substitute" teachers from his large crowd of Sluggie fans
[16:22] <fawkes28> oh that would be great, sooner
[16:22] <MagicalKreacher> He has safety AND some luxurious things too. Just what he wants
[16:22] <Poet> I love it cloudpic
[16:22] <mollywobbles23> whao, Sooner. You're right!
[16:22] <fawkes28> maybe that is how they will unit the houses
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[16:22] <fawkes28> *unite
[16:22] <SoonerGryffindor> hello joyhawk
[16:23] <Joyhawk2121> hello everyone
[16:23] <SoonerGryffindor> wow, so the uniting will start at the top, I like that
[16:23] <MagicalKreacher> Hi Joyhawk
[16:23] <cloudpic> Substitutes would be needed for when the war calls professors away for expertise work
[16:23] <cloudpic> Would be wonderful, Sooner
[16:23] <SoonerGryffindor> this pretty much convinces me that Sluggy is going to stay
[16:23] <fawkes28> me too
[16:23] <ProngsPatronus> as it should, since the difficulties started at the top originally
[16:23] <MagicalKreacher> I'm almost sure he will
[16:23] <SoonerGryffindor> very good point Prongs
[16:23] <JaneMarple9> yes slughorn will be there still
[16:23] <Aislinn> very true
[16:23] <ProngsPatronus> symmetry
[16:23] <MagicalKreacher> True, PP
[16:23] <cloudpic> Quite so, PP
[16:23] <JaneMarple9> he'll be new head of slytherin
[16:24] <fawkes28> With Dumbledore now dead, there is a lot of speculation that Hogwarts may not be as safe as it once was. How safe is Hogwarts in your opinion?
[16:24] <MagicalKreacher> Hogwarts : it's all just mathematics in the end
[16:24] <JaneMarple9> he seems quite a decent slytherin
[16:24] <cloudpic> nowhere is safe
[16:24] <ltbrave23> he proves that there not all that bad jane
[16:24] <JaneMarple9> yes cloudpuc totally
[16:24] <SoonerGryffindor> I really think its as safe as it was the previous year
[16:24] <Aislinn> I think that Hogwarts is at least as safe as anyplace in the wizarding world, and a lot safer than many
[16:24] <Poet> The cabinet has been elimated, so very safe again
[16:24] <mollywobbles23> it's safe
[16:24] <futureweasley> it's likely safer than anywhere else
[16:24] <ProngsPatronus> nowhere is safe, but Hogwarts is safer than almost anyplace else, I think
[16:24] <Expelliarmas> hogwarts was made vulnerable by a student! because DD trusted the students implicitly.
[16:24] <cloudpic> But kids would be safer there... so many talented adults to protect them
[16:24] <SoonerGryffindor> maybe even safer because we do not know the effect that DD's body being there might provide
[16:24] <fawkes28> I think it will not be as safe - just look at what happened when DD left to go to the cave
[16:24] <MagicalKreacher> Hogwarts has never been 100% safe. That's lying to yourself. It can be safer but nowhere is really perfectly hidden and untouchable
[16:24] <Joyhawk2121> I think It's pretty safe
[16:24] <Aislinn> true, sooner
[16:24] <futureweasley> I think DD's sacrifice at hogwarts will prove to have protected Hogwarts and her students
[16:24] <JaneMarple9> but it will be a safer place than the wizarding homes i think
[16:24] <Expelliarmas> It wasn't because of a failure of the magical protections that it was invaded
[16:25] <Aislinn> exactly, MK
[16:25] <cloudpic> I agree, future
[16:25] <fawkes28> I do think that a lot of people just felt that it was safe because of their faith in DD and also because LV stayed away from Hogwarts because he feared DD
[16:25] <MagicalKreacher> Yes, Expie.
[16:25] <JaneMarple9> mcgonagall will get extra secrurity
[16:25] <Aislinn> there is no such thing as complete safety in this world, or in the wizarding one
[16:25] <Poet> I think the Floo is the next vulnerable thing. They just need to keep DE out of positions in the Ministry
[16:25] <SoonerGryffindor> I really do think that there was some kind of magic in DD sacrificing himself at Hogwarts
[16:25] <Joyhawk2121> true Aislinn
[16:25] <ProngsPatronus> I do, too
[16:25] <cloudpic> I'd want to be somewhere that some of the finest wizards and witches were working
[16:25] <fawkes28> I think that DD dying on the grounds created an even deeper protection on hogwarts
[16:25] <futureweasley> furthermore, this crypt there is going to have something to do with security and that magical bond
[16:25] <ltbrave23> i agree sooner
[16:26] <Aislinn> yes, I agree that Dd's presence on the school grounds has a protective componenet
[16:26] <Joyhawk2121> maybe his dealth has made hogwarts more protected
[16:26] <Aislinn> he gave his very life for the school and the students there
[16:26] <SoonerGryffindor> and we already learned that not all of the protections stopped when he died. Some spells are not broken that way
[16:26] <cloudpic> Perhaps that's why he wanted to be buried there... to complete the protection?
[16:26] <MagicalKreacher> DD's body being there also can relate to the fact that his phoenix could eventually return there to heal or sing and give power to those who need it
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[16:26] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps insuring that the protections he had on the school do not disappear?
[16:26] <cloudpic> Oh... I hope you are right MagicalKreacher!
[16:26] <MagicalKreacher> Maybe, PP, but he also felt this was his home
[16:26] <cloudpic> Yes, Prongs
[16:27] <Aislinn> yes, MK, it was very much his home
[16:27] <cloudpic> Both... as it was his home... and he died to protect a student
[16:27] <ProngsPatronus> as it is Harry's
[16:27] <fawkes28> yes, cloudpic
[16:27] <ProngsPatronus> which is why I think he will eventually return
[16:27] <Aislinn> yes, Prongs
[16:27] <cloudpic> Oh, you and I so agree, Prongs it is Harry's home too
[16:27] <MagicalKreacher> Yes, PP... this is why I can't imagine Harry not going to Hogwarts again.
[16:27] <ltbrave23> i think so too pp he will be drawn to it
[16:27] <Aislinn> the way he feels leaving, and returning each year, makes it quite evident that it is Harry's true home
[16:28] <futureweasley> it breaks my heart to think that Harry can't go home...or won't go home...because it's "unsafe". His whole life has been "unsafe"
[16:28] <cloudpic> If it served Dumbledore as a good "base" to hunt horcruxes... it should serve Harry too
[16:28] <Kneazly> Yes. It's hard to imagine him knocking around Grimmauld Place as home.
[16:28] <Aislinn> exactly cloudpic
[16:28] <ph63915> I reckon Hogwarts will be safer than privet drive anyway...
[16:28] * ProngsPatronus starts passing out the tissues
[16:28] <cbm> I agree c;loudpic
[16:28] <fawkes28> i think that his sacrifice very well could have made the protection around the school even greater - although LV will think all is too easy now that DD is gone and he will be too arrogant AND MESS UP SOMEHOW
[16:28] <ltbrave23> there are so many resources for harry to use at hogwarts
[16:28] <cloudpic> Yes...Ick, Keazley!
[16:28] <fawkes28> sorry for the caps smile
[16:28] <cloudpic> LOL
[16:28] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes, his typical arrogant mistake
[16:28] <cloudpic> capslockfawkes
[16:28] <SoonerGryffindor> its okay fawkes
[16:28] <Aislinn> underestimating the power of love
[16:28] <futureweasley> totally ph63915! Petunia's cooking alone could kill you on Privet Drive1
[16:28] <fawkes28> How many pupils can reasonably be expected to return to Hogwarts if it stays open?
[16:29] <MagicalKreacher> But at the end of HBP, we do get the impression that Harry's a bit overwhelmed and is taking Godric's Hollow for his home suddenly, the home he needs to return to. I'm sure he'll go back to Hogwarts again after that
[16:29] <JaneMarple9> capslock Fawkes...exactly biggrin
[16:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I think we will see a decrease
[16:29] <Joyhawk2121> yeah decrease
[16:29] <Expelliarmas> not very many, fawkes; not at the rate that LV has been killing parents and kids
[16:29] <ProngsPatronus> I think if there were one student who wanted to come back, McG would open the school
[16:29] <SoonerGryffindor> I predict somewhere arund half wll show back up
[16:29] <Aislinn> I think that more will be there than many people do, but there will definitely be some who will not return
[16:29] <futureweasley> either every kid will be there...or hardly any kids will be there
[16:29] <JaneMarple9> there will be a decrease probably
[16:29] <fawkes28> you know - i think more will come back than we think
[16:29] <Kneazly> Yes--they saidpeople kept their kids home the first LV war
[16:29] <ltbrave23> i agree pp
[16:29] <futureweasley> we know Dean Thomas will return...he doesn't tell his muggle parents anything
[16:29] <JaneMarple9> that might make the houses unite more
[16:29] <MagicalKreacher> Decrease but not that much though. I think people know that their home isn't going to help their child to stand up and live in front of LV.
[16:29] <cbm> half would be my guess with almost no slytherins
[16:29] <SoonerGryffindor> lol future
[16:29] <fawkes28> once parents have time to think it over they will releaize that the kids may be safer at hogwarts than at their home
[16:29] <cloudpic> I suspect more will return after a while... kids orphaned by the war
[16:30] <Aislinn> exactly, fawkes
[16:30] <ProngsPatronus> perhaps there will be a House Hogwarts this year
[16:30] <SoonerGryffindor> You know that Nevlle will go back
[16:30] <JaneMarple9> there might nor be houses any more - just one massive school united
[16:30] <cloudpic> Yes, fawkes, because they can't be home with the kids all day
[16:30] <SoonerGryffindor> and Luna
[16:30] <JaneMarple9> or fairly united
[16:30] <Aislinn> I think that eventually, the school will unite, but not initially
[16:30] <cloudpic> Hey... maybe Neville's gran will come to the school?
[16:30] <Expelliarmas> Augusta would insist on Neville's return
[16:30] <JaneMarple9> Oh Neville has to go back!
[16:30] <fawkes28> especially if the parents are in danger of dying - they would want their kids to be somewhere safe
[16:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I thnk that Seamus is going to have to fight with his mom to go back
[16:30] <Aislinn> yes, sooner, he will
[16:30] <MagicalKreacher> Neville won't need Augusta to go back. He will want to
[16:30] <JaneMarple9> a lot of pupils will go back
[16:30] <Aislinn> very true, MK
[16:30] <SoonerGryffindor> I do not see the Patils coming back, but it wold be nice if they did
[16:30] <ph63915> Ooh Augusta for DADA..she'd certainly be scary enough
[16:30] <cbm> We know his gran can not be a charms instructor
[16:30] <cloudpic> I can see Neville doing his first defiance of Augusta if she didn't want him to
[16:30] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Creevey's will definitely go back
[16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> yes
[16:31] <MagicalKreacher> Well we won't see Draco, that's for sure.
[16:31] * SoonerGryffindor hopes that Zacharias falls off of a cliff and wont come back
[16:31] <cloudpic> Yes, Prongs... their parents might not understand all that's going on and would want them safe that way
[16:31] <ProngsPatronus> not the Patil twins, though
[16:31] <fawkes28> there will be enough students there to teach - not everyone of course
[16:31] <MagicalKreacher> Bad thoughts, Sooner, bad thoughts!
[16:31] <Aislinn> I think that the DA members will be there, and that it will be a good thing that they are
[16:31] <SoonerGryffindor> lol
[16:31] <fawkes28> and it also depends if these students survive the summer sad
[16:31] <ProngsPatronus> cold
[16:32] <Joyhawk2121> lol
[16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder if Crabbe and Goyle will show back up
[16:32] <cloudpic> I wonder about the Patil twins... their parents were so jumpy... but theyve been so much a part of the minor character crowd
[16:32] <MagicalKreacher> How about Ron & Hermione?
[16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> really,do they need another year of education?
[16:32] <ltbrave23> i doubt it sooner
[16:32] <cbm> agreed fawkes, it is going to be more worse than before
[16:32] <ltbrave23> ron and hermione will do whatever harry does
[16:32] <MagicalKreacher> Edu-what Sooner? We're talking of Crabbe and Goyle here
[16:32] <cloudpic> Hermione and Ron will be where Harry is... perhaps that will be as good a reason as any for his wanting to make Hogwarts a base
[16:32] <Aislinn> yes, ltbrave23 they are in it together
[16:32] <SoonerGryffindor> right
[16:32] <fawkes28> There is reason to suspect that Voldemort may want to gain possession of Hogwarts in Deathly Hallows. Are his connections to Hogwarts (the only place he felt at home, being Slytherin's heir) reason enough for him to risk seizing it?
[16:33] <Aislinn> I don't think that would be his only reason
[16:33] <Aislinn> I think he has many
[16:33] <cloudpic> I suspect he'll make an attempt
[16:33] <ProngsPatronus> I think it will be impossible for the offspring of DE's to get in
[16:33] <fawkes28> He was waiting for DD to get out of the way
[16:33] <ltbrave23> i think taking hogwart's has always been a plan of lv's
[16:33] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it could be a contributing factor in his deciding to go after Hogwarts
[16:33] <ProngsPatronus> I think he will want Hogwarts
[16:33] <ltbrave23> since before he lost his power
[16:33] <Aislinn> He has shown that he is very interested in returning - both at the time he graduated, and the time he approached Dd for the job
[16:33] <ProngsPatronus> just because he love perverting everything good
[16:33] <Joyhawk2121> I agree prongs
[16:33] <cloudpic> He'd want to take Hogwarts so he could completely disrespect Dumbledore on Dumbledore's sacred ground
[16:33] <MagicalKreacher> Well the odd thing is : he has feelings about Hogwarts. He doesn't exactly love it but he feels attracted to it. I think he will always be in a struggle when it comes to Hogwarts
[16:33] <fawkes28> I think that Hogwarts was the closest thing that Voldemort ever felt a sort of love for - he will want to control it
[16:33] <futureweasley> I think LV is just cracked in the head...he wants power over everything, and can't discern between Hogwarts being a school or a fortress in which to concur
[16:34] <Aislinn> Hogwarts would be a perfect base of operations for his nefarious plans
[16:34] <MagicalKreacher> Exactly what I mean fawkes!
[16:34] <SoonerGryffindor> yes, he has always shown an interest in Hogwarts. In fact, I think he is more attached to it than even he realizes
[16:34] <ph63915> I think he wants Hogwarts to show the world he has that much power
[16:34] <Expelliarmas> Hogwarts is a trophy to LV; also, he wants to indoctrinate young minds as to his dogma
[16:34] <fawkes28> yes, MK - great minds! smile
[16:34] <cloudpic> He was said to have explored Hogwarts...may know the school better than anyone
[16:34] <Joyhawk2121> yes Expie more followers
[16:34] <ltbrave23> he also understands the power of hogwarts itself. the magic that resides there.
[16:34] <Aislinn> agreed, expie, but I think he would also see an advantage to controlling the kids, and thus, controlling the parents through the kids
[16:34] <SoonerGryffindor> I wonder who knew more about Hogwarts? LV, Marauders, or twins?
[16:35] <MagicalKreacher> Or DD?
[16:35] <cloudpic> Can you imagine the Marauder's Map with a little label: Tom Riddle?!
[16:35] <ProngsPatronus> I think there is a streak of sentimentality in LV--even though he turns it to nefarious ends
[16:35] <futureweasley> Hogwarts symbolizes, to LV, where his story begins. Hogwarts is rightfully the property of LV (in his mind) because his great great great great Grandfather founded it
[16:35] <Aislinn> the marauders is my guess, sooner
[16:35] <ltbrave23> i think that lv had the best understanding of the school, as horrible as it is to think about it
[16:35] <fawkes28> that is a good way to put it, future
[16:35] <cloudpic> I think Riddle may have learned the most
[16:35] <SoonerGryffindor> me too Aislinn. And yes future, Aislinn makes that very point in her chapter
[16:35] <ph63915> i think we'll find out what other secrets reside in the chamber as well....
[16:35] <Poet> There is magic in the castle and making it up. LV is not as much interested in the physical layout as learning from the magic that makes the castle work , in my opinion\
[16:35] <MagicalKreacher> Riddle may know the most but he'll always ignore love and feelings thus he may never really understand Hogwarts truly
[16:35] <SoonerGryffindor> I think he mght feel as if he has more of a claim on it
[16:36] <cloudpic> Although to create the map... perhaps you're right, Aislinn
[16:36] <ltbrave23> i agree poet
[16:36] <Aislinn> I think he wanted to come back to learn more
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[16:36] <MagicalKreacher> DD's office's door would probably not open to him... At least, I hope so
[16:36] <cloudpic> Yes, MagicalKreacher...that is his weak point
[16:36] <Poet> For instance, the magic that created the RoR is pretty cool. I'd love to learn how to do that
[16:37] <cloudpic> Yes.."when you wish upon a door"
[16:37] <ProngsPatronus> he will want to erase the stain of SS leaving the school, too
[16:37] <cloudpic> Interesting point, Prongs
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[16:37] <fawkes28> Is it possible that there is another secret in the Chamber of Secrets?
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[16:37] <ltbrave23> i think so
[16:37] <Poet> yes
[16:37] <Expelliarmas> yes, otherwise it would be Chamber of Secret
[16:37] <ProngsPatronus> well, it is a plural---"secrets"
[16:37] <fawkes28> exactly expie
[16:37] <cloudpic> LOL Expie
[16:37] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this is a valid line of thoght, but I am still not 100 sure
[16:37] <Poet> I hope there is a book that SS left behind
[16:37] <MagicalKreacher> I don't hope so. I didn't like that chamber much... But it must, as said PP : it's plural
[16:37] <Aislinn> I think that it is interesting that the chamber is called the - yes, what has been said smile
[16:38] <ProngsPatronus> I wonder if the headmaster's room would open up to LV, though
[16:38] <Poet> The giant statue of SS is suspicious
[16:38] <ph63915> Yep, i reckon its what LV is really after....maybe SS's own library of spell books...
[16:38] <ProngsPatronus> it didn't for Umbridge
[16:38] <MagicalKreacher> All these possibilities we're discussing here definitely cannot be put in 784 pages...
[16:38] <Poet> I wonder if something is inside it or under its feet
[16:38] <JaneMarple9> i don't think it would PP
[16:38] <JaneMarple9> horrible thought
[16:38] <futureweasley> Secrets...plural
[16:38] <fawkes28> i think we will learn done there more of the history between gryffindor and slytherin
[16:38] <futureweasley> not Secret
[16:39] <fawkes28> because i dont think we know the whole story
[16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree MK
[16:39] <cloudpic> No... not even with the tiniest print, MK
[16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> which is why I am not 100% convinced
[16:39] <Poet> Right, not "The Secret Chamber"
[16:39] <ltbrave23> i agree fawkes
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[16:39] <Aislinn> lol cloudpic
[16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> hey wagga
[16:39] <JaneMarple9> It might be able to MK - if Jo printed it in teeny tiny print
[16:39] <ProngsPatronus> maybe Slytherin's own diary is down there--maybe that is where LV got the idea
[16:39] <ltbrave23> i don't think salazaar is as bad as we have been lead to believe
[16:39] <MagicalKreacher> Tiny prints would be great though. I'd be hopeful
[16:39] <fawkes28> ohh, i like that thought, prongs
[16:39] <JaneMarple9> minute writing!
[16:39] <cloudpic> Might that be how LV learned to make horcruxes?
[16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I agree ltbrave
[16:39] <Poet> Book 6 sure had a lot of stuff in ti
[16:39] <Aislinn> we're talking about the chamber of secrets, and whether it holds any more secrets right now, wagga
[16:39] <Expelliarmas> of course, Jo could have revealed all the secrets in CoS: LV was Tom Riddle, LV ws Slytherin's Heir, LV opened the chamber and released the horror within
[16:39] <SoonerGryffindor> I do not think taht SS did nearly the stuff that LV did
[16:39] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> hi
[16:40] <JaneMarple9> And agreed - Chamber of SecretSSSSSSSSSSSS
[16:40] <Aislinn> as part of a discussion about Hogwarts
[16:40] <MagicalKreacher> Cloudpic, I wonder too how LV learned how to make thos horcruxes
[16:40] <fawkes28> i completely agree, sooner
[16:40] <JaneMarple9> (sorry for capitals!)
[16:40] <ltbrave23> i agree sooner
[16:40] <cloudpic> From Slytherin's books?
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[16:40] <Aislinn> hi YWKW!
[16:40] <JaneMarple9> hey YWKW
[16:40] <SoonerGryffindor> hey YWKW
[16:40] <MagicalKreacher> I havve trouble with SS : Salazar Slytherin or Severus Snape !
[16:40] <futureweasley> we don't know how the founders met their demise...maybe Slytherin whacked them and put their bodies in the Chamber of Secrets
[16:40] <fawkes28> lol
[16:40] <Poet> *gulp*\
[16:40] <SoonerGryffindor> future!
[16:40] <cloudpic> Oh, dear!
[16:40] <cloudpic> It doesnt' seem likely.
[16:41] <futureweasley> well, deathly hallows...you know
[16:41] <MagicalKreacher> Oh, not that bad, fw
[16:41] * Poet thinks of whacking someone else...
[16:41] <ltbrave23> yeah,,,,no
[16:41] <futureweasley> the crypt of the founders
[16:41] <cloudpic> No.
[16:41] <fawkes28> Dumbledore refers to Hogwarts as a stronghold of ancient magic. Are there any secrets that Hogwarts has yet to reveal?
[16:41] <SoonerGryffindor> *dies*
[16:41] <You_wont_know_who> hi everyone, nice to see you
[16:41] <ProngsPatronus> aren't they in a graveyard all their own?
[16:41] * Expelliarmas pictures Slytherin speaking as a mafioso
[16:41] <cloudpic> Am sure it has.
[16:41] <MagicalKreacher> Hi YWKW
[16:41] <You_wont_know_who> sure there are many of secrets
[16:41] <Aislinn> I think there are many, many secrets that are yet to be revealed
[16:41] <ltbrave23> yes i think we will have a better understanding of ancient magic in dh
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[16:41] <Poet> Sure
[16:41] <fawkes28> oh yes - i bet even DD did not know all the secrets
[16:41] <cloudpic> But what?
[16:41] <ProngsPatronus> I think we will never know the extent of the secrets at Hogwarts
[16:41] <ph63915> definitely
[16:42] <Aislinn> no, I don't think we will either, Prongs
[16:42] <MagicalKreacher> Many secrets aren't revealed : the origins of th RoR, the headmaster's door not opening to some, etc
[16:42] <fawkes28> very true, prongs - but i am hoping that some will be revealed in DH
[16:42] <cloudpic> Unless we get that illusive copy of Hogwarts a History published someday!
[16:42] <ltbrave23> not all, but we will learn more
[16:42] <Aislinn> that would take a book much larger than Hogwarts, A History
[16:42] <ProngsPatronus> DD had to rediscover the RoR
[16:42] <You_wont_know_who> if Dumbledore didn't know ,nobody will know
[16:42] <MagicalKreacher> Hogwars has its own magical personnality. That's the beauty of it. IT's not a complex, an architectural plan
[16:42] <Kneazly> I bet the house elves know a lot of the secrets
[16:42] <cloudpic> DD said he didn't know all the mysteries of the school
[16:42] <You_wont_know_who> I only wonder if LV was able to enter Hogwarts without the permission
[16:43] <ProngsPatronus> I think that Hogwarts is semi-sentient
[16:43] <MagicalKreacher> LV might want to think of taking over the house elves then
[16:43] <You_wont_know_who> very good idea PP
[16:43] <cloudpic> Perhaps that will be one of the first efforts at Unity...pool everyone's knowledge of the school for security?
[16:43] <Aislinn> yes, Prongs, I do too
[16:43] <Kneazly> I think the house elves would be loyal to the school and fight against LV
[16:43] <MagicalKreacher> PP : I think so too... Related with the Sorting Hat who is quite conscious too
[16:43] <You_wont_know_who> the school might defend itself in a surprising way
[16:43] <cloudpic> It is their Home
[16:43] <You_wont_know_who> Kneazly I agree
[16:44] <cloudpic> I like that idea, YWKW
[16:44] <ltbrave23> well, they work for hogwarts. so whoever had the school would be who they are loyal to
[16:44] * Poet imagines self-reguritating toilets
[16:44] <Aislinn> and I think that will be critical, kneazly - all of the inhabitants of the castle will unite to fight against incursion by LV
[16:44] <MagicalKreacher> Great idea, YWKW
[16:44] <ph63915> What happens to elves when their master dies...are they free now?
[16:44] <Aislinn> with Harry in the forefront
[16:44] <cloudpic> If the steps can grab at ankles... that'd be useful
[16:44] <Poet> Yes, ghosts, elves, armor, paintings....
[16:44] <MagicalKreacher> Lol, Cloudpic
[16:44] <ProngsPatronus> and Ginny, Hermione, and Ron at his side
[16:44] <cloudpic> Don't they "come with the House"?
[16:44] <You_wont_know_who> Hogwarts houseelves belong to school not to a head
[16:44] <You_wont_know_who> lol cloudpic
[16:45] <Kneazly> I don't think the elves owe only their loyalty to the master--they seem to owe it to their home, too. Like Kreacher.
[16:45] <Expelliarmas> Only 15 minutes left, everyone! This has been a great chat! I want to remind you all that this transcript can be found at the Corner Booth Forum http://www.leakylounge.com/index.php?showforum=184.
[16:45] <fawkes28> Is it possible that there is another horcrux hidden away somewhere else within Hogwarts?
[16:45] <Poet> yes
[16:45] <cloudpic> In the Room of Requirement
[16:45] <ProngsPatronus> yes
[16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> nonononononono tiara
[16:45] <futureweasley> sure
[16:45] <fawkes28> oh definitely
[16:45] <You_wont_know_who> very possible
[16:45] <cloudpic> atop a cabinet
[16:45] <Poet> In the Chamber, in the RoR, or the trophy room
[16:45] <cloudpic> It's shiny
[16:45] <futureweasley> but not in the room of requirement and not that darn tiara
[16:45] <Joyhawk2121> very possible
[16:45] <You_wont_know_who> that's why I asked about LV
[16:45] <fawkes28> yes, not the tiara at all
[16:45] <MagicalKreacher> Possibily... the CoS maybe
[16:45] <ProngsPatronus> actually, I was thinking Hufflepuff's cup may be there
[16:45] <SoonerGryffindor> NOT the tiara
[16:45] <futureweasley> right Prongs
[16:45] <cloudpic> You think a trophy?
[16:45] <Aislinn> I think that there is something in the RoR, but I don't know that there is a Horcrux there
[16:45] <futureweasley> I like that
[16:45] <Poet> I do think the tiara belonged to Rowena Ravenclaw, but may not be a horcrux
[16:46] <Aislinn> it was described so specifically, though, there will be a reason for Harry to go back there
[16:46] <You_wont_know_who> maybe the wig?
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[16:46] <cloudpic> ew.
[16:46] <futureweasley> lol YWKW
[16:46] <fawkes28> it would be interesting to have it be something that we don't know about
[16:46] <Aislinn> hi atschpe
[16:46] <ProngsPatronus> lol--wrong period
[16:46] <fawkes28> hi atschpe
[16:46] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> He will want to get the half-blood prince book back though.
[16:46] <You_wont_know_who> hi atchpe
[16:46] <fawkes28> or something that we have seen but do not realize it is a horcrux
[16:46] <atschpe> Hi there
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[16:46] <terivic> the Jo's dream had a large hall in it where the Horcrux was hidden. the catherdral in the RoR was described asHe was standing in a room the size of a large cathedral, whose high windows were sending shafts of light down upon what looked like a city with towering walls
[16:46] <Poet> Like Tom's cup
[16:46] <mollywobbles23> I think it's possible
[16:46] <Kneazly> Yes, fawkes
[16:46] <JaneMarple9> hi atschpe!
[16:47] <cloudpic> I think JKR has given us hints about them all and sits grinning waiting for us to say, "Of Course!"
[16:47] <Aislinn> that's true, terivic
[16:47] <fawkes28> Could Voldemort possibly want to take over Hogwarts to use it as a stronghold and as a recruiting ground?
[16:47] <futureweasley> maybe Harry will be the thing at Hogwarts that is a horcrux
[16:47] <ProngsPatronus> i agree, cloudpic
[16:47] <cloudpic> Both
[16:47] <terivic> could the horcrux be hidden in the ROR's catherdral... the tiara perhaps
[16:47] <MagicalKreacher> Jo might be here, looking at us, grinning (or not if we have some things right)
[16:47] <You_wont_know_who> surely he is emotionally tied to the school
[16:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think that he would like this idea fawkes
[16:47] <Aislinn> yes, I think that this is quite likely
[16:47] <JaneMarple9> that wouldn;t cuprise me at all cloudpic!
[16:47] <fawkes28> I think he definitely wants to - he tried before when he applied for the position with DD
[16:47] <You_wont_know_who> he felt at home there and he wants to return
[16:47] <JaneMarple9> I think voldie would love to take over hogwarts
[16:47] <SoonerGryffindor> I think this along with the other reasons, are more than enough motivation for him to take the risk
[16:47] <ltbrave23> i think so too, but i don't think it is his amin reason
[16:47] <You_wont_know_who> true Jane
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[16:48] <JaneMarple9> oh yes YWKW very true
[16:48] <ltbrave23> only*
[16:48] <Kneazly> Yes, LV at Hogwarts, get them and train them young. Ugh,
[16:48] <ProngsPatronus> I believe LV thinks he is entitled to return to Hogwarts
[16:48] <fawkes28> he would want to train young minds to think the way he does - but for right now i think he wants to get rid of harry
[16:48] <Aislinn> hi NYB
[16:48] <JaneMarple9> yes PP
[16:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Hi NYBookworm
[16:48] <You_wont_know_who> hi NYB
[16:48] <atschpe> agreed Kneazly
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[16:48] <JaneMarple9> perfect place to recruit death eaters
[16:48] <cloudpic> Just think of thepower over their parents if he had the children hostage
[16:48] <mollywobbles23> possibly
[16:48] <Kneazly> Yes, cloudpic
[16:48] <ph63915> I dont think LV wants to train anyone....control maybe but not educate
[16:48] <MagicalKreacher> Scary thought, cloudpic
[16:48] <drfinlay> hi guys so whats occuring tonight?
[16:48] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> Is he going to finally get the DADA job?
[16:48] <Poet> I think its too late for him to use it as a training or recruiting ground. Who except for children of DE would attend after all LV has done.
[16:49] <Aislinn> agreed, ph63915
[16:49] <JaneMarple9> ooo WWW no! Horrible thought!
[16:49] <MagicalKreacher> LV has changed much lately : Harry has escaped many other time and I cant imagine him wanting to teach or train much more.
[16:49] <mollywobbles23> true poet
[16:49] <Joyhawk2121> LV thinks he's the greatest wizard in the world and would want to take over Howarts where the greatest wizard of the world was
[16:49] <You_wont_know_who> if LV takes over the wizarding world every child will be forced to attend his school
[16:49] <MagicalKreacher> I think LV needs Hogwarts and longs for it to stop and settle down.
[16:49] <ProngsPatronus> thus aping Dumbledore yet again
[16:50] <Kneazly> I'm thinking of parallels with the Nazi youth here.
[16:50] <MagicalKreacher> YWKW : only the purebloods and we know there aren't many of those left
[16:50] <fawkes28> me too, Kneazly
[16:50] <Poet> I do think he wants to take it over, but to make it the fortress of his kingdom of evil
[16:50] <You_wont_know_who> good comparison Kneazly
[16:50] <terivic> Halloween) and Snape proves himself to be a good guy. there is another position open...
[16:50] <fawkes28> In Harry's 5th year the Sorting Hat sings a much different song. What do you make of the warnings the hat gives?
[16:50] <Expelliarmas> terivic would you kindly check the top of your screen?
[16:50] <ph63915> I wonder if ultimately LV wants to be the only wizard left in the world with no one to challenge him at all
[16:50] <cloudpic> It was right
[16:50] <ProngsPatronus> the Hat has been around for a long time
[16:50] <You_wont_know_who> that the time is ripe for a cheese cauldron perhaps
[16:51] <ProngsPatronus> it recognises the signs of danger
[16:51] <fawkes28> i think the hat knows that unity is the best way for them to win the war
[16:51] <fawkes28> and that it is time to put aside petty differences
[16:51] <cloudpic> I wonder if the Headmaster prompts the hat...after all they stay in the same room?
[16:51] <You_wont_know_who> so big and unexpected changes have to be implemented
[16:51] <terivic> Don't think so Wagga wagga, not the DADA, but if there is a battle on Halloween and Snape 'proves' himself there is another position open...
[16:51] <Aislinn> I think that the hat is providing useful advice, and that this advice will be taken in the last book
[16:51] <ProngsPatronus> maybe it is the other way around, cloudpic
[16:51] <MagicalKreacher> There isn't much choice: unity or terror and the Hat feels we need to know this, not ignore it like the MoM did
[16:52] <fawkes28> yes, MK
[16:52] <You_wont_know_who> only unified wizards will win the battle against evil
[16:52] <ProngsPatronus> united we stand, divided we fall
[16:52] <fawkes28> Ever since the founding of Hogwarts, the students have been separated into the 4 different houses. Is the hat correct that all 4 houses must unite, and if possible, how do you see this happening?
[16:52] <MagicalKreacher> PP : I feel like in the Communist Party singing those songs :-D
[16:52] <Expelliarmas> terivic kindly check your screen and acknowledge
[16:52] <SoonerGryffindor> I do think that this is going to have to happen
[16:53] <NYBookworm> maybe they won't be sorted this year?
[16:53] <ProngsPatronus> I think the Houses will unite into one House Hogwarts
[16:53] <You_wont_know_who> yes, the houses will be unified
[16:53] <cloudpic> Well, the big hour glass thing which minded the competition between Houses is destroyed
[16:53] <Aislinn> I think that the threat against the school is going to cause the students to pull together to defend themselves and the school
[16:53] <SoonerGryffindor> I love that thought Prongs
[16:53] <Poet> I can see there only being one house, but I'm torn as to it happening this year or after Voldie is defeated
[16:53] <Aislinn> And I think the DA will play an important role in this
[16:53] <You_wont_know_who> true PP - it will be the best
[16:53] <MagicalKreacher> Right, cloudpic, the competition time has come to and end
[16:53] <Joyhawk2121> I think the head of the houses will have to make that possible
[16:53] <fawkes28> i wonder if it will happen right away though - because the older students are already sorted
[16:53] <drfinlay> there will be only the one house i think and it will de called dumbledore
[16:53] <ProngsPatronus> yes, Aislinn
[16:53] <Aislinn> I don't think the year will start with one House
[16:53] <ProngsPatronus> and the Slug Club, too
[16:53] <JaneMarple9> ye dumbleores army will be big
[16:53] <SoonerGryffindor> that is a good point cloudpic, we saw the hourglasses destroyed at the end of HBP and we know there is not going to be quidditch
[16:54] <cloudpic> It will take work
[16:54] <fawkes28> i think maybe something will happen during the year to bring them closer together
[16:54] <MagicalKreacher> Until now, Snape was the main trouble between the heads but now he's gone...
[16:54] <Poet> Good point SoonerGryffindor
[16:54] <Aislinn> yes, fawkes - an attack from without
[16:54] <Aislinn> that's true, MK
[16:54] <You_wont_know_who> and there will be fewer students
[16:54] <cloudpic> Especially among the older students who are ingrained with the idea of competition... but that can be focused on a common and very real enemy
[16:54] <You_wont_know_who> so they will have to cooperate
[16:54] <SoonerGryffindor> and probably less Slytherins
[16:54] <ltbrave23> well i think that is an oversimplification mk there were problems before snape
[16:54] <SoonerGryffindor> I think the ones that will stay will be more amenable to uniting
[16:55] <ltbrave23> but i think him no longer being there will help
[16:55] <ph63915> slytherin will have a very quiet common room
[16:55] <cloudpic> I wonder if the DE's children will be used as spies?
[16:55] <MagicalKreacher> Yes and Draco will not be among the Slytherins to be an obstacle to reuniting
[16:55] <ProngsPatronus> yes--but I think there will be more than anyone thinks
[16:55] <ProngsPatronus> the students themselves will be loyal to Hogwarts
[16:55] <ltbrave23> i do to prongs
[16:55] <ltbrave23> not all slytherins are de's
[16:55] <SoonerGryffindor> but I think that the DE kids numbers will be greatly reduced
[16:55] <You_wont_know_who> some of them - for sure
[16:55] <cloudpic> Remember... most of the students' parents attended the school... remember Molly and Bill's nostalgia at their visit?
[16:56] <fawkes28> What do you think the ultimate fate of Hogwarts will be in Deathly Hallows?
[16:56] <MagicalKreacher> Slytherin student will return though : they have their friends there too and probably know it's the safest place to be at their age with their magical knowledge
[16:56] <fawkes28> i think Hogwarts will Live
[16:56] <ProngsPatronus> JKR has asaid that not all DE's are Slytherins
[16:56] <cloudpic> It will stand the test and continue
[16:56] <Aislinn> I think the school will go on, as it has for 1000 years
[16:56] <terivic> read your comments
[16:56] <futureweasley> I think that Hogwarts is going to stand
[16:56] <fawkes28> it is too strong of a character - it will survive
[16:56] <SoonerGryffindor> I think it will stay open, and that at some point the Order will have to defend it from DE's
[16:56] <You_wont_know_who> Hogwarts will be stronger
[16:56] <ProngsPatronus> Hogwarts will endure, as it has for a thousand years
[16:56] <Joyhawk2121> I think Hogwarts will get stronger
[16:56] <SoonerGryffindor> but that at the end it will be stronger than the forces of evil
[16:56] <MagicalKreacher> The school will survive and probably grow stronger
[16:56] <fawkes28> i think so too, Joy
[16:56] <Poet> I think it will be attacked again, but survive
[16:56] <JaneMarple9> Hogwarts will get strong totally yes
[16:57] <ProngsPatronus> there is one thing that bothers me, though
[16:57] <SoonerGryffindor> what is that Prongs?
[16:57] <cloudpic> The Unity of the school may help the entire Wizarding World unite eventually... kids taught cooperation and common respect
[16:57] <MagicalKreacher> Tell us prongs
[16:57] <cloudpic> What PP?
[16:57] <ph63915> Hogwarts will survive
[16:57] <ProngsPatronus> didn't McG say something about DD saying there might be an end to Hogwarts?
[16:57] <You_wont_know_who> :o
[16:57] <cloudpic> McG is something of a pesimist...
[16:58] <JaneMarple9> she is rather!
[16:58] <Aislinn> she referred to something like that back in CoS
[16:58] <MagicalKreacher> Hmm, I remember something similar. But that ending is maybe just an ending of that particular era
[16:58] <Joyhawk2121> I agree Cloudpic
[16:58] <ProngsPatronus> that DD had prophesied an end to Hogwarts?
[16:58] <Aislinn> but I think it was about closing because of the threat of the Basilisk
[16:58] <cloudpic> No.
[16:58] <You_wont_know_who> I can't recall those words
[16:58] <MagicalKreacher> Maybe Trelawney ahd a last transe before DD died
[16:58] <JaneMarple9> I am sure Hogwarts will be standing for many years
[16:58] <ProngsPatronus> it was in CoS
[16:58] <cloudpic> Closing doesn't mean ending... just closing until the danger passes
[16:58] <drfinlay> not prophesied i think but forsaw a possible future where that might happen
[16:58] <Aislinn> right cloudpic
[16:58] <You_wont_know_who> sure cloudpic
[16:59] <cloudpic> I hope not, drfinlay
[16:59] <MagicalKreacher> Indeed cloupdic
[16:59] <ProngsPatronus> that would be my only concern--other than that, I think Hogwarts will be there for harry's kids...
[16:59] <Poet> I think Aislinn answered that pretty well with the quotes she included with her essay
[16:59] <Joyhawk2121> maybe kids not returning because of the dander with DD being gone
[16:59] <You_wont_know_who> I think the school has had to be closed many times
[16:59] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> some of the magic possibly went with Dumbledore
[16:59] <Joyhawk2121> danger
[16:59] <MagicalKreacher> PP, we're discussing HArry's kids already?
[16:59] * cloudpic has tears in her eyes at Prongs' comment
[16:59] <Poet> And we discussed it at the beginining of the chat ;)
[16:59] <JaneMarple9> awww Harry's kiddies - red haired of course biggrin
[16:59] <MagicalKreacher> Green eyes
[16:59] <fawkes28> Thanks for coming to the chat! smile
[16:59] <Aislinn> yay for the green eyed, red haired kids that Ginny and Harry will have!
[16:59] <ltbrave23> i agree jane, i don't think so wagga the magic was their before dd it will be there after
[16:59] <You_wont_know_who> thank you
[16:59] <fawkes28> It was a great one
[16:59] <Poet> cheers
[16:59] <ProngsPatronus> except for the little black-haired boy
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[17:00] <cloudpic> Tossled.
[17:00] <JaneMarple9> /me prepares to be hugged to death
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[17:00] <You_wont_know_who> bye and nice to see the booth in a working order
[17:00] <futureweasley> way to pull out a double shift guys
[17:00] <ltbrave23> bye all
[17:00] <Joyhawk2121> thanks guys good chat even if i was late
[17:00] <Aislinn> it was a wonderful chat - thanks so much for coming, everyone!
[17:00] <futureweasley> see you soon
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[17:00] <ProngsPatronus> yes--nice to come to the chat once again!
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[17:00] <MagicalKreacher> Wow, 11PM and I have to get up at 5 AM
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[17:00] <JaneMarple9> a special hug to Mollywobbles and Cloudpic hug
[17:00] <cloudpic> ((((((hugs)))))))) and goodbye! Great chat! Glad the Booth worked
[17:00] <Joyhawk2121> bye
[17:00] <fawkes28> yay snuffles!
[17:00] <Expelliarmas> bye guys
[17:00] <Aislinn> me too, cloudpic!
[17:00] <fawkes28> !botsnack
[17:00] * Snuffles munches on a yummy treat
[17:00] <ProngsPatronus> group huggles, and ttfn!
[17:01] <MagicalKreacher> Night night hugs to all of you who'd want some!
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[17:01] <JaneMarple9> hug everybody else and even snuffles! hug
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[17:01] <futureweasley> bye all
[17:01] <MagicalKreacher> Bye everybody and thank you for the chat!
[17:01] <ph63915> night folks, fingers crossed for a PCast tomorrow
[17:01] <futureweasley> thanks for coming MK
[17:01] <futureweasley> hope to see you again!
[17:01] <JaneMarple9> bye1 back next weekend - and great 4 hours chat!!
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[17:01] <MagicalKreacher> I shall be back, fw, don't worry
[17:01] <fawkes28> bye everyone
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[17:02] <Expelliarmas> right folks, time to go!
[17:02] <Expelliarmas> just type /quit
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[17:02] <WaggaWaggaWerewolf> bye
[17:02] <futureweasley> elves must clean up after this party
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[17:03] <Expelliarmas> terivic?
[17:03] <Expelliarmas> drfinlay?
[17:03] <fawkes28> it is time to go
[17:03] <Expelliarmas> mollywobbles?
[17:03] <Expelliarmas> nybookworm?
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