Other wizarding schools?, Do they run things different |
 Dec 17 2005, 06:24 AM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes  Posts: 318 Joined: 10:57am December 9, 2005 Location: Sobbing over my EE-grade on my W.O.M.B.A.Ts (Norway)  |
I always wondered, apart from Durmstrang, Beauxbatons and Hogwarts, what is the name ofother wizarding schools? Do they run things different? As a Norwegain I really wonder about the Norwegain school. As we have to stay at the same scool for ten years, do Norwegian Wizards only begin in school at the age of 16 (or fiftheen, depending on which time of the year you are born)?
-------------------- Took a test one of these days, turns out to have a personality that is 95% of Hermione and 90% Snape. That must be the perfect character.
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Dec 17 2005, 11:03 AM
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Leaky's Resident Bibliophile Posts: 8,279 Joined: 5:01pm April 18, 2005 Location: Finding Neverland.   |
From what I can tell with the other foreign schools, all the wizarding schools are ran according to customs that the area has.
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Dec 17 2005, 03:25 PM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes Posts: 318 Joined: 10:57am December 9, 2005 Location: Sobbing over my EE-grade on my W.O.M.B.A.Ts (Norway) |
Do you think JKR has made any notes in her head about other wizarding schools like the Norwegian, I would so like to know about the Norwegian Wizarding Community
-------------------- Took a test one of these days, turns out to have a personality that is 95% of Hermione and 90% Snape. That must be the perfect character.
I am a wizard the Norwegian Minstery of Magic have forgotten Physics would be Hermione's favourite subject, at least it is mine. |
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Dec 17 2005, 04:32 PM
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Professional Diagon Alley Window Shopper Posts: 67 Joined: 3:03pm August 26, 2005 Location: It's a secret! We tell the Muggles it is a top secret military installation. |
:wave: Here at the Rocky Mountain School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, where I happen to teach potions, we do things a bit different. We start in July, and go for nine weeks. Then we get three weeks off. This allows the students time to catch up on all of those nasty essays!
Actually, I am a teacher in Utah, where we have year-round school. There are four tracks (A, B, C & D) - think of the Hogwarts houses. A, B, and C start in July. C stays in school for three weeks, and then tracks off for three weeks, and D track comes on. At any time, one of the tracks is out of school. It sounds odd if you aren't used to it, but once you get used to it, it is great! In my mind, which is fried from grading papers, our school would be a year round school. We would have to have a special day just for the first years so they could be sorted, but other than that it would work. -------------------- I teach potions at the Rocky Mountain School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
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Dec 17 2005, 06:29 PM
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Diagon Alley Entrepreneur Posts: 4,317 Joined: 2:49am June 9, 2005 Location: Somewhere too mysterious to mention... |
QUOTE(MonieLou @ Dec. 17 2005,11:03 ) From what I can tell with the other foreign schools, all the wizarding schools are ran according to customs that the area has. My thoughts exactly, although I think she may have stretched the rules in a few cases *struggles to come up with examples*... It would be interesting to find out about other wizarding schools, though, as in other parts of the world, not just Europe. *edited to make another point* -------------------- Signature in development... thanks to Procrastinators United! It should come tomorrow...
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Dec 17 2005, 09:51 PM
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Diagon Alley Entrepreneur Posts: 4,357 Joined: 8:45pm February 11, 2005 Location: In Snape's hell Selling Lockhart's hair care product |
I agree they do run differntly. Look at the way Beabaton students stood up for Madam Maxine in GoF.
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Trying to figure out the best way to make Snape suffer, let's see thumb screws- no that's not good enough. Harry I know your mad at Snape, but .. Would the crucio curse be good enough... no that won't work... We should be looking for hocruxes Harry I've got it. The most horrible thing to do to Snape! Harry pulls out a large bottle of Shampoo. Harry, your a monster |
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Dec 18 2005, 05:45 AM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes Posts: 318 Joined: 10:57am December 9, 2005 Location: Sobbing over my EE-grade on my W.O.M.B.A.Ts (Norway) |
Can't someone ask JKR this. Norway, even if it is a very small country has come up in the books some times. Let me just get the customs in our school, and I am going to find it. I wonder if the Ministry of Magic is run different from the one in Britain, I really hope it is run better. I wonder if they take Le baccalouriat in Beauxbatons.
-------------------- Took a test one of these days, turns out to have a personality that is 95% of Hermione and 90% Snape. That must be the perfect character.
I am a wizard the Norwegian Minstery of Magic have forgotten Physics would be Hermione's favourite subject, at least it is mine. |
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Dec 19 2005, 11:53 AM
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Leaky's Resident Bibliophile Posts: 8,279 Joined: 5:01pm April 18, 2005 Location: Finding Neverland. |
QUOTE(Mellynnf @ Dec. 17 2005,9:51 pm) I agree they do run differntly. Look at the way Beabaton students stood up for Madam Maxine in GoF. And the different schools seem to have different student-teracher relations. Like in Beauxbatons they seem more close than at Durmstrang.*Edited to add quote* -------------------- "I know who Harry Potter is. I just don't know who the other two are. Himmie and Roland?"
"No, Grandma, Ron and Hermione." |
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Dec 22 2005, 07:48 PM
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Disgruntled House-Elf at The Leaky Cauldron Posts: 440 Joined: 6:46pm March 23, 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA |
Let's go back in time and look at how wizards are train in the fictional history which deals with them. The classic tale is of a poor family, just barely able to survive. One day the young son is in the woods and meets a man (or woman) who talks to him, then seems to disappear into nowhere. Must later, and after much doubting of his sanity by the yound son, the stranger appears at the door of their cabin, and offers to pay the family a substantial sum of money, if they will let therr son become and apprentice of the stranger. The stranger guarantees the parents that the son will be safe and well cared for, well fed, and he will be educated and train in a profession.
This puts the parents in a difficult situation. They desperately need the money, but they can't bare the thought of giving up their precious son. Yet, they know that if the son goes, he will have education and opportunities that the poor family could never offer him in their wildest dream. In the end, they relent. They take the money and let their son go with the stranger. So, the young son does willingly, though with some reluctance as he will miss his family. The stranger turns out to be a wizard, and the young son turns out to have talents he never imagined. And so the adventure begins. An amazing number of wizard tales begin like this, and are retold from the apprentices point of view. So, prior to the very advanced and innovative idea of central schools for wizards and witches, magical people were trained by 'master craftsmen' who discovered them by accident, and took them on as apprentices. One wizard in his castle would likely have several apprentices at various stages of training. Now, the idea of a central school like Hogwarts, that would take any and all students magical enough to get in, was both a great and terrible idea. Great in that it provided the very best education for all available wizards and witches of all ages. Terrible in that many generations of the wizard world were contained in one single place. If the muggles ever found out and came calling with a vengance, it would mean the end of the wizard world. In the case of the Master/Apprentice schools, if a wizard was found out and attack, only himself and his few student would be killed. The many other wizards and student would, theoretically, remain safe. Now the in-between scenario. Likely all countries would have gravitated to central schools. From an educational point of view, it just makes sense. And in another sense, each Master wizard in taking on Apprentices, was simply forming his own little school. So, I suspect in countries like Norway, the current system is somewhere in between. School are modeled somewhat after the standard muggle Norway school. They are larger than the Master/Apprentice schools of the old days, but are smaller and more specialized, and certainly more hidden than the standard muggle school. In Norway, you say that students typically stay at the same school for 10 years, but that can't be absolute. Some students must transfer in, and logically some students must transfer out. Certainly, it your parents suddenly become rich, they would consider transferring you to a private Prep School. So, the point I'm making is that there are logical reasons why students might leave their standard muggle school. Durmstrang, while it is most likely in Northwestern Russia (near Finland), is an Eastern European school. Notice that Viktor Krum is from Bulgaria, which is in Southeastern Europe. Also, Hogwarts, Beauxbatons, and Durmstrang are the LARGEST schools, that doesn't mean there aren't many other minor/smaller more Master/Apprentice type school elsewhere in Europe. So, I suspect that a country like Norway MIGHT have several small localized schools spread out around the country. Again, not knowing that much about Norway, I can only speculate, but this is what I do speculate. By the way, my grandparent are from Norway. STeve/BlueWizard |
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Dec 23 2005, 05:29 AM
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Hiding in the Iron Maiden at Borgin and Burkes Posts: 318 Joined: 10:57am December 9, 2005 Location: Sobbing over my EE-grade on my W.O.M.B.A.Ts (Norway) |
Well. I love Norway, that is why I ask.
Yeah, you probably right about Norway having several smaller schools around the country. But you see, as Norway not being so capitalistic as other western contries, we have a so good school in the ofiicial system that even rich kids go to it (almost all chidren in Norway can be defined as rich in other countries). The majority is placed in the official school system, and it would be the majority a wizarding school would go after. Therfore I say after we quit what we call "Ungdomskolen" and begin looking for studing places would be the right time for Norwegian wizarding schools to look for members. And when I think of it Fleur said something about other grduating methods at her school. -------------------- Took a test one of these days, turns out to have a personality that is 95% of Hermione and 90% Snape. That must be the perfect character.
I am a wizard the Norwegian Minstery of Magic have forgotten Physics would be Hermione's favourite subject, at least it is mine. |
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